I don't think your Xavier Worthy takes are you shitting on him, but I think there is a lot of information you are forgetting and/or missing with him in particular. Yes, a lot of the guys who have ran the fastest 40s at the combine are big busts or players who weren't fantasy relevant. However, his production profile in college absolutely BLOWS everyone on that list out of the water at the WR position. He had one of the best freshman seasons ever and still produced his sophomore season (playing all year with a broken hand) and again his junior season, out-targeting everyone on the team even with added competition like Mitchell (your WR4) , Sanders (your TE2), and Jonathan Brooks (your RB1). You also mentioned that he left a lot to be desired on tape and that a lot of his catches came on screens/there was a lack of downfield presence with all that speed. I can 1000% confidently say that is due to Quinn Ewers lack of accuracy downfield and inability to connect with his receivers on that part of the field. I can't tell you enough how painful it was to watch Ewers all year and him underthrow or just straight up miss Mitchell or Worthy when they would have multiple steps on a defender. The last thing I'll say is while Worthy may not be a complete route runner (while many aren't besides maybe Harrison) he is still a very solid one and absolutely SEPARATES. He gets open at a high clip and his speed is very rare. Whew! Anyways, sorry for the super long comment LOL. I love the stuff you guys put out and have been a big fan for a while. Btw WR11 is wild
Speed in college is way more devastating than in the NFL. NFL defensive coordinators and safeties won’t allow worthy to get away with what he did in college. That’s why he outproduced his teammates in college, but he will be the worst out of the bunch in the NFL.
I feel like Worthy doesn't have the competitive fire that we see with stud #1 wide receivers. If he doesn't get an amazing landing spot I don't see how he will be consistent in fantasy. A big question for me is- does he break 600 yards his rookie year no matter where he goes?
@@crangusmcbasketball2931 what exactly can the other team do if he’s beating corners downfield because he’s faster? Yes, the NFL will be better at countering his speed at times, but that doesn’t mean he won’t be good. I think you’re underestimating what teams can get out of players. I think if he’s coachable and able to develop then he’s got all the upside. It’s just a matter of landing spot at this point.
Spot on with Adonai Mitchell and Terry McLaurin is actually a surprisingly accurate comp. They actually run their routes very similarly with their smoothness, deceptive speed, and contested catch ability. A1 analysis
Admittedly not the best at scouting/watching tape so would love if you included more film breakdown moving forward and explain what you’re looking at! You did that a bit in the RB video a couple weeks ago and I found it really helpful. Just would love to know exactly what to look at
I agree. I love their stuff a ton when it comes to fantasy but I find it hard to trust really anybody in the industry who says they “watched the tape” and know what they’re seeing. There’s so many little things that go into route running and ability to separate. Everybody claims to know what is good or bad about tape so I just take it all with a grain of salt.
@@nwk101 exactly! Would love to just learn what to watch for. Sometimes I’ll watch a player and like his burst and then others will say they don’t. Either of us could be wrong but would love to see what others (who watch way more film than me) look at
If it’s TE premium the 1.07 and 1.08 are a decent gap, if not they’re similar, Olave is 1 or 2 tiers below 1.03 assuming it’s marv, and then waddle on top? Seems like a good move for the waddle and Olave content
Yes do this 100%, 1.03 will likely be a Qb and if thats not a need on your team it is worth trading it. Plus you are getting 2 proven talents at receiver and the slide of one pick is not a massive deal unless you really want Brock Bowers
I have the 1.03/1.04/1.05/1.08/1.11 in a 1QB league. Looking to get Nabors,Bowers,Odunze, and I have hopes to get some good draft capital at my 1.08/1.11. Probably won’t pick a rb until the 2nd round
I have 1.2, 1.4, 1.7 1.12 I'm taking best landing spot of nabors/odunze, then probably bowers if the oither guy isn't taken and then I'm taking the best running back at 1.7 and hopefully a qb at 1.12. Trey Benson or Jonathan Brooks aren't guys that will fall too far in the 2nd round, and its more valuable to have a top rb in the class, especially when you can load up on a #2 wide receiver anywhere in the 2nd. To keep a balanced roster, especially with a ton of picks you don't want a gap in years with your running backs. Youll always have a next man up every year.
I’m finding it hard to understand why Brian Thomas is ranked so high. I get he is athletically a monster and can run routes but everything I see is 90% body catches. How is does that translate?
im in a 10 team dynasty league, with the 8th pick in the first and 5th pick in the second, with the wr class being as good as it is this year should i go qb first and then wr?
Benson is RB1 he will get early day 2 capital.. Which is basically the breece Hall, Kenneth walker type of capital plus he is clearly a freak with good hands
Ngl, I was waaayyyy off on Brian Thomas...with those long strides to me he looked slow...I haven't been so far off on a player except like twice in the last 15 years LOLOL
@@BDGEDynastyFantasyFootball history says its probably correct to not overreact to the 4.21 because he's 165. he could be a good wr but he wont be valuable in fantasy
12:50 cracked me up, because it's so true. Keon Coleman is a special talent. I think he goes early Day 2 and would be an ideal fit for Bryce Young and the Panthers.
Xavier Worthy had a better broken-tackle rate than Rome Odunze. He averaged more YAC/reception than Malik Nabers. He has the record for the fastest 40 yard time ever. You're too low on him.
I love that everyone’s “go to” comp for Ladd McConkey are automatically Julian Edelman, or Wes Walker, or Rex Burkhead. All the WHITEST names in the NFL…
Ok mister I know exactly how fast everyone is without a 40. Next year you should predict their times before they run. Or do so for the pro day guys that havent run. Stop acting like you knew things before they happened, after they happened.
QJ had a a 10% drop rate or something like that coming out of college Mitchell dropped 5 passes in 3 years of college ball. Mitchell also is a way more promising route runner coming out so they might have similar metrics but definitely not a good comparison
Nah bruh, QJ disappeared all the time. He didn't catch well or do deep routes well. He was overhyped. Mitchell imo isn't a star, but he'll be a contributor but this QJ guy was in the best position in football for a WR and he couldn't do better than get his staff fired
I don't think your Xavier Worthy takes are you shitting on him, but I think there is a lot of information you are forgetting and/or missing with him in particular. Yes, a lot of the guys who have ran the fastest 40s at the combine are big busts or players who weren't fantasy relevant. However, his production profile in college absolutely BLOWS everyone on that list out of the water at the WR position. He had one of the best freshman seasons ever and still produced his sophomore season (playing all year with a broken hand) and again his junior season, out-targeting everyone on the team even with added competition like Mitchell (your WR4) , Sanders (your TE2), and Jonathan Brooks (your RB1). You also mentioned that he left a lot to be desired on tape and that a lot of his catches came on screens/there was a lack of downfield presence with all that speed. I can 1000% confidently say that is due to Quinn Ewers lack of accuracy downfield and inability to connect with his receivers on that part of the field. I can't tell you enough how painful it was to watch Ewers all year and him underthrow or just straight up miss Mitchell or Worthy when they would have multiple steps on a defender. The last thing I'll say is while Worthy may not be a complete route runner (while many aren't besides maybe Harrison) he is still a very solid one and absolutely SEPARATES. He gets open at a high clip and his speed is very rare. Whew! Anyways, sorry for the super long comment LOL. I love the stuff you guys put out and have been a big fan for a while. Btw WR11 is wild
I am right there with you on this , if a smart coach can’t get worthy open then they should consider a career change 🤷🏿♀️
Also heavily agree with ewers take completely , I thought he was biggest loser of combine in my eyes lol
Speed in college is way more devastating than in the NFL. NFL defensive coordinators and safeties won’t allow worthy to get away with what he did in college. That’s why he outproduced his teammates in college, but he will be the worst out of the bunch in the NFL.
I feel like Worthy doesn't have the competitive fire that we see with stud #1 wide receivers. If he doesn't get an amazing landing spot I don't see how he will be consistent in fantasy. A big question for me is- does he break 600 yards his rookie year no matter where he goes?
@@crangusmcbasketball2931 what exactly can the other team do if he’s beating corners downfield because he’s faster? Yes, the NFL will be better at countering his speed at times, but that doesn’t mean he won’t be good. I think you’re underestimating what teams can get out of players. I think if he’s coachable and able to develop then he’s got all the upside. It’s just a matter of landing spot at this point.
Love all the guys at bdge, but the classic “Nick yappin for 25 minutes” vids gotta be my favorite
Spot on with Adonai Mitchell and Terry McLaurin is actually a surprisingly accurate comp. They actually run their routes very similarly with their smoothness, deceptive speed, and contested catch ability. A1 analysis
Admittedly not the best at scouting/watching tape so would love if you included more film breakdown moving forward and explain what you’re looking at! You did that a bit in the RB video a couple weeks ago and I found it really helpful. Just would love to know exactly what to look at
I agree. I love their stuff a ton when it comes to fantasy but I find it hard to trust really anybody in the industry who says they “watched the tape” and know what they’re seeing. There’s so many little things that go into route running and ability to separate. Everybody claims to know what is good or bad about tape so I just take it all with a grain of salt.
@@nwk101 exactly! Would love to just learn what to watch for. Sometimes I’ll watch a player and like his burst and then others will say they don’t. Either of us could be wrong but would love to see what others (who watch way more film than me) look at
SF 12 Team start 10: Would you trade 1.03 and 1.07 for Waddle, Olave and 1.08?
If it’s TE premium the 1.07 and 1.08 are a decent gap, if not they’re similar, Olave is 1 or 2 tiers below 1.03 assuming it’s marv, and then waddle on top? Seems like a good move for the waddle and Olave content
Yes do this 100%, 1.03 will likely be a Qb and if thats not a need on your team it is worth trading it. Plus you are getting 2 proven talents at receiver and the slide of one pick is not a massive deal unless you really want Brock Bowers
I’d probably take this because you can still get a great player at 1.08. If you’re not set at QB though, it’s probably better to go QB at 1.03
@BRichB Olave is not better than the 1.03. I wouldn’t even trade the 1.05 for him. Maybe the 1.05 if I knew Nabers wouldn’t be there
Do a start up mock draft
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@@BDGEDynastyFantasyFootball thx
second this. really helps show rookies real value against the rest of the pool
U are the man Nicholas. What a great name u have also 🔥 always on point my guy 💯
Pre-combine I was drafting worthy whenever I could in underdog drafts. But I agree that his 40 time doesn’t matter.
I’m just happy to get my shares at such a cheap price, but can’t see myself continuing to take him
I have the 1.03/1.04/1.05/1.08/1.11 in a 1QB league. Looking to get Nabors,Bowers,Odunze, and I have hopes to get some good draft capital at my 1.08/1.11. Probably won’t pick a rb until the 2nd round
I have 1.2, 1.4, 1.7 1.12
I'm taking best landing spot of nabors/odunze, then probably bowers if the oither guy isn't taken and then I'm taking the best running back at 1.7 and hopefully a qb at 1.12.
Trey Benson or Jonathan Brooks aren't guys that will fall too far in the 2nd round, and its more valuable to have a top rb in the class, especially when you can load up on a #2 wide receiver anywhere in the 2nd. To keep a balanced roster, especially with a ton of picks you don't want a gap in years with your running backs. Youll always have a next man up every year.
In 1 qb it goes Harrison nabors ofunze, then bowers or 4th receiver. Is someone taking Caleb at 1.1 or 1.2? Cause that’s wild in 1 qb.
I’m finding it hard to understand why Brian Thomas is ranked so high. I get he is athletically a monster and can run routes but everything I see is 90% body catches. How is does that translate?
I’m not sure that I agree with the body catches take , let me guess you drafted Quentin Johnson a bit ?
@@kieranhinton9601 nah faded him. I love him too as a tcu fan.
I get the body catches part, but Addison & Devante Smith are serial Body catch artists. So not impossible to make a career doing it
So I have the 18th pick so I will go straight to the end of video so I don’t feel bad about the players I won’t have the opportunity to draft.
Worthy is going to be good but not great. Some people are too high on him now but respectfully you are too low on him
im in a 10 team dynasty league, with the 8th pick in the first and 5th pick in the second, with the wr class being as good as it is this year should i go qb first and then wr?
I also have the 8th pick, we're gonna miss out on the big 3 wrs and Bowers leaving us Calab, top 2 RBS and Wr Thomas jr.
IMO Y'all are wrong about Worthy vs. Mitchell.
Downgrading a guy after breaking a combine record is wild.
THANK YOU FINALLY!!! Worthy is not Worthy of the hype. Worthy is a mid 2nd round pick at most stop over hyping fast 40 times holy fuck.
Twitter analysts are definitely using ChatGPT words🤣🤣right on
Wow, you really nailed it with your high level of brilliance. Taylor Swift picked the wrong guy.
ficked god
Worthy is gonna be Jameson
I think hes goingtot be more like Tyquan Thornton
I just traded Njoku and the 3.05 to get Schultz and the 2.02 after this video
Benson is RB1 he will get early day 2 capital.. Which is basically the breece Hall, Kenneth walker type of capital plus he is clearly a freak with good hands
Ngl, I was waaayyyy off on Brian Thomas...with those long strides to me he looked slow...I haven't been so far off on a player except like twice in the last 15 years LOLOL
Xavier worthy truthers in shambles rn
unless im just wrong
@@BDGEDynastyFantasyFootball history says its probably correct to not overreact to the 4.21 because he's 165. he could be a good wr but he wont be valuable in fantasy
@@BDGEDynastyFantasyFootballhe’s a faster, younger, taller tank dell imo.
Yeah I don’t get how he can’t translate to a dell +
I guess this is why ppl got tank and puka so late because people over thought everything
I estimate estime 😅
Ladd runs a 4.39 and he flies up the board but Worthy and Thomas’s times aren’t a big deal 😂😂
Because Ladd is a more refined route runner than them so being fast on top bumps his stock whether he deserves it or not
I agree - I have the BTJ pick in a 1QB league and am torn wether I move up to Odunze or not as it would probably cost another top 20 pick.
Keep btj
12:50 cracked me up, because it's so true. Keon Coleman is a special talent. I think he goes early Day 2 and would be an ideal fit for Bryce Young and the Panthers.
John Ross is still fast. And unemployed.
Well, he got his millions and he retired
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Xavier Worthy had a better broken-tackle rate than Rome Odunze.
He averaged more YAC/reception than Malik Nabers.
He has the record for the fastest 40 yard time ever. You're too low on him.
because his targets were at the LOS
I love that everyone’s “go to” comp for Ladd McConkey are automatically Julian Edelman, or Wes Walker, or Rex Burkhead. All the WHITEST names in the NFL…
Here for all the yappin
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Brother, if you don’t think Worthy can run routes, you don’t watch tape
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Ok mister I know exactly how fast everyone is without a 40. Next year you should predict their times before they run. Or do so for the pro day guys that havent run. Stop acting like you knew things before they happened, after they happened.
it's not that hard when u watch them, easy to bet on them beforehand too
@@BDGEDynastyFantasyFootball do it, it'll be good content.
Mitchell is QJ. Just remember me when he’s a bust
QJ had a a 10% drop rate or something like that coming out of college Mitchell dropped 5 passes in 3 years of college ball. Mitchell also is a way more promising route runner coming out so they might have similar metrics but definitely not a good comparison
Nah bruh, QJ disappeared all the time. He didn't catch well or do deep routes well. He was overhyped. Mitchell imo isn't a star, but he'll be a contributor but this QJ guy was in the best position in football for a WR and he couldn't do better than get his staff fired
Also, QJ was hyped as an athletic specimen, which he wasn't and the combine proved it, same as Burks
Roman Wilson ranked too low
Not a fan of Worthy. Not a great catcher either Nick and definitely not very physical
You run your mouth like a falcon
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