The worst to me was when Jake brought up genuine trauma in reasoning for not wanting kids, and Amy then berates him and threatens to leave him over it.
I honestly don’t hate any episode in the show but Amy shouldn’t have done that at all. On the other hand I blame both of them they should’ve talked about this BEFORE getting married
I hated this episode. Gina was sarcastic, comedically rude, and always right in other episodes, but she was always nice to jake. Their relationship helped me love her. The friendship brought out good things in both of them. Her being awful to Jake made me so mad.
Eh, you may be giving the character too much praise. She could be funny, but a lot of episodes, I feel the writers had a better idea how to make us like Hitchcock and Scully than Gina.
Yea considering the relationship Gina and jake had before and during the time of the show felt very off- if it was Boyle for example I think it would’ve worked a lot better- but it was super nice to see her in the Halloween heist episodes- I think that was a perfect return for her they should’ve of left it at that
Same..... I disliked gina's obnoxious attitude and this was the one that solidified that. She was a key character for content but in a way that's just off-putting
For me, the worst episode was when everyone manipulated Jake into accepting being a father even though he doesn't want to be. If you're not okay with kids in the first year then don't force them. Just be patient until both partners are ready. Never force someone to have kids when they're not ready.
i feel like you need to rewatch that episode, jake said he might never want kids, not that he's not ready, thats why they had the debate. Also "everyone manipulated Jake into accepting being a father" is such a lie, the only person who was trying to convince him was Amy, ahd she's his wife who wanted kids, she did nothing wrong, Terry even tells him not to do it if he's not sure.
@@amancherry3998 huh, amy set this arbitrary debate system and brought Holt and Kevin into the debate as biased debate judges so... she technically wasn't the only one
It was so out of character for Amy to do what she did. It was also out of character for Jake -- the episode made it look like he didn't want kids when he had always wanted them. If anything, the debate should have been or "now or later?" or even "I want kids, but do I want to be a father? is it really what I want in my life?" Not that stupid, unhealthy debate.
Sorry, for me, nothing will be worse than Casecation. Because Jake is treated as being wrong and is bullied by his coworkers, when he has a right to not want kids, especially if he doesn't feel mature enough for it. It just feels like the squad coerced Jake into wanting kids, which isn't a good thing.
Bullied by his co-workers? Terry was on his side. Rosa didn't talk to him at all about it and once Amy took his side seriously he told him to figure out soon IF he wants kids so she will know what to do about it.
Something I thought was quite strange is that Gina’s baby or baby daddy aren’t mentioned at all in Return of the King even when she was literally stabbed
Yes! And in the Boyle episode of season 9, I was expecting her boyfriend and her to show up (after all he's said to be a Boyle)... It simple didn't make sense to me that when their grandfather passed away they wouldn't come to the funeral...
Also, something that never made sense to me is the fact that the family of the characters never comes to important events (like when rosa and pimento got married, her parents didn't come, also when Holt and Kevin renewed their vows, it would have been very nice to see 1) if kevins parents evolved with time as their said to be very homophobic 2) holt's mom, their "robot" dynamic is very funny, and most importantly when Jake and Amy got married, I was like "where is their family??")... Anyway, it simple didn't make sense to me that in these events it always seemed to be only the precinct... Even Terry and Charles spouses never show up which is very odd
@@saskialima9144 oh yh I forgot he was a Boyle that literally more reason it makes sense no sense he was never mentioned at the very least by Boyle himself
@@saskialima9144 for Amy and jake’s wedding was kind of messed up due to the whole bomb thing , so their parents went out for dinner and left (jake mentions it ) .
I thought most people considered Casecation to be the worst (the one where Jake & Amy are in a hospital for a case and have a formal debate over having kids). Almost any time I see that episode brought up people always call it out for feeling uncomfortable and out of character. Though I will say this particular episode also wasn’t one my favs, sort of feels like it just brought out the worst in Gina.
Well I don’t really like those episodes either I als didn’t really like the first episode of season 7. I know it was important to them because all of the horrible things happening in America but I think it could have been way better. I think because they put everything in one episode it became way to heavy on politics. Don’t get me wrong, I get why it is important but I feel like they could have handled it better.
@@suzannedevlieger2838 episodes like that are cringey and forced and thats why i dont like them , i see it in all shows related to law enforcement or blackness, and i feel it ruins the shows authenticity , when its forcing these topics into the plot just so they wont get cancelled
I feel like the idea behind "The Return of the King" wasn't all that bad: they wanted to show that without any real human connection and by becoming a star, Gina had lost touch with who she was and who she had grown to be, and reconnecting with the 99 would help her not forget who she is. Interesting concept... but awful execution. They just turned her into an asshole and this episode never showed the original Gina, even at the end. On the other hand, the series finale made a much better job at bringing Gina back, I believe.
While I generally agree, I was kind of entertained by the debate, especially as more people ended up being on the line. It's just a gag that I found funny. The rest of the criticism, yeah.
Why was the end of the episode not mentioned? Gina and Jake reconciled and agreed to see each other more. Personally, I found the episode really funny and although Gina was a bit of a jerk, her behavior did fit with her character. My only complaint is that the episode should have been in season 7 or 8.
@@tigamaki1345 I believe they reconcile right after Gina is stabbed, before she gets put on pain pills, and her promise seems sincere. They are also shown hanging out at the end of the episode, evidence that Gina is following through on her promise
My thing is its a classic thing to happen when people rise to fame and gain a following The tend to forget to keep in touch with the people that kept them grounded before fame And given ginas character definitely a trait i could see her having
The worst episode is obviously the one that they all suspected the new female captain to be a bad captain, and they just straight up bully her away, while she is being completely nice and friendly, they never showed her again, and they didn’t apologize or make it up.
I actually really liked that one since it played off of trope that jake and holt are always right. Throughout the episode I was just thinking “oh wow, how are they going to make them right this time?” While rolling my eyes, but the twist genuinely got me
Gina's entire personality in the show is centered around her narcissism. She is constantly shown as self centered, and just because she cares about her friends doesn't make her suddenly a well adjusted human. I like the episode in how it showed what success and power can do to a person. I was recently watching a video about Chevy Chase, and someone quoted Bill Murray as saying "you have about two years of success where you have to learn to stop being an asshole. If someone can't manage success without being an asshole by then, then it isn't going to happen"
the only thing i hated about B99 was that Gina's attitude is never onced called out and she never faces any consequence. don't' get me wrong i love Gina but the show always hammered home that she wasn't a good person entirely and they never actually addressed it.
I was hoping that they would give Gina an actual send off and show that she has grown beyond her narcissistic traits and come to embrace the family around her that supported her all those years. Nope. She turns into an egotistical monster characateur using her friends when she needs them. At least its accurate to narcissism!?
This episode is a weaker one. But the only one I truly hate is the one where Debbie holds Jake and Rosa hostage (S7 E5). It just feels so cartoony and childish, like it was written for a completely different show.
The whole Debbie arc kinda sucked. It would've been nice if she were just a one-off character, but dear lord, this woman didn't do anything to deserve her whole life falling apart! Vanessa Bayer also isn't that funny, like she's the RUclipsr some people might enjoy, but most would kind of write off.
I actually think Debbie's character is used to show how you can ruin your own life through mental health issues and bad decisions. She never meant to be awful, but she became awful by taking the wrong advice about how to deal with her struggles. I agree it could've been done better, but then not every episode will be a hit (especially where there's 7 seasons, and I suspect it was never expected to be greenlit for more than 3 or 4). It's never explicitly stated, but it isn't in real life either.
I agree to a certain extent about her return, but I don’t think it’s the worst episode. It’s an episode that might have been better in a much later season, but it kinda highlights what happens when a character like herself is removed from the people who help keep her in check, for the most part. It’s a reminder that she needs to remember where she came from and what’s she’s learned from her friends. Overall, she can be rather obnoxious before her send off, well, her first one, but grows on you.
Comedy in B99 seems derrived from juxtaposition. They place opposites in front of each other and see how they clash. The most front and center dynamic of Peralta and Holt is a perfect example. Things like Jake coming into Holt's office, requesting a selfie and just taking one as Holt denies the request in a deadpan voice is funny because these opposites interract. But this happens in characters themselves too. Boyle's completely unearned confidence (like with the boxing match for the movie tickets) compared to his usual doormat demeanor is funny; Rosa being this hardened badass who likes Nancy Meyers movies is funny; Holt, straight-faced saying "Cowabunga, mother!" is funny. Gina being this larger than life snarker is funny BECAUSE she's a civilian administrator (only default non-badass of the main cast) and assistant (by definition in service to the rest at work). Her sass against cops(claiming she needs a gun licence because her precinct's cops suck, while living in 99 territory), casually suggesting crime (rounding down drug weighing, selling what they skim off the top), and her general alpha behaviour is funny because the idea of an assistant is more in line with how Santiago is written. Put her in the position of minor celebrety...influencer...cult leader...thing? and this doesn't work anymore, even if she's written the way she was. Every character's comedy works in part because of the position they're in. Take them out, and you have to bring out some A-game writing to not make it weird or bad.
Yes! I agree with the premise of the video, that this episode doesn't work, but the analysis on why didn't sit right with me. Came to the comments searching for another idea and I think you're spot on! Gina's crazy confidence and absurd disrespect works when she's tethered to a dead end job that puts her in a subservient position, but not when she's uber powerful and has everything she's every wanted. It just pushes her to an extreme and doesn't gel with the tone of the show. Where Brooklyn 99 is usually about deconstructing archetypes, this episode just ended up playing into the narcissitic influencer stereotype.
I think this is the best explaination yet. It makes perfect sense why they ended up letting her character spiral into an asshole when they took away what grounded her.
Agree with Casecation being the worst, especially with Amy my second most favorite character (after Holt), no way she would not discussed children before marrying Jake. Close second is when Jake deported the biological father of Boyle's son, looks really bad on Jake, imagine if the Dad wasn't white
1. His father was a bad person, with a knock off clothing brand and trying to pull nikolash away from boyle 2. What does his race have anything to do with the story or deportation? 3. Hes not white hes latvian
the one where jake deports nikolaj's bio dad is the worst for me. casecation has at least some weak form of forced resolution? but nikolaj's dad is just gone forever, and jake suffers no consequences from his actions! if gintars' actor wasn't white, the episode would've 100% been boycotted and for good reason
@@shen-qf9mc no, the show says that jake was wrong for going over boyles head. And not to mention, again, race has nothing to do with it. And he wasnt white
The boat was called American Gambino or something ryt? Season 06 of community has become the worst season for me because of the void I felt without the dynamic Troy-Abed relationship. But hey, the worst season of Community is still a lot better than most of the high ranking seasons of other sitcoms.
@@pasandesilva2295 not every day you see someone say that there’s a worse season than season 4… but I understand missing Troy, he definitely was the heart of the show. I still loved a lot of season 6 moments tho
@@beyondviolet Oh the freaking gas leak year 😂 yeah that dropped the royal level Community maintained S1-S3, but at least all the 07 of Greendale 07 were there! Yess there were some moments in S06 were truly special, for me the Moonlight song by Natalie is freezing 🔥, but the first three seasons were solid gold TV!
yeah, the show left a hollow void in the group’s dynamic once Pierce left, but things really collapsed for good once Troy left. it’s nice that it made more room for Abed and Annie dynamics, but man it was so much fun when the three were together (they were the youngest of the group which helped their dynamic)
This video reminded me of how disappointed I was with how Rosa was handled in the final season. I had no problems with her leaving the 99, that felt in character, but it felt like the writers just kinda went “make the serious character do a not serious thing = comedy” for every episode of the final season.
Rosa really pissed me off in season 8, especially throwing away her and Jake's friendship like it was garbage. I was also a little ticked at Stephanie Biatriz because she'd been playing the character long enough that she should have known that Rosa would jever do something like that.
I almost did not watch the final season because of it's first episode. Rosa getting high was just too incoherent to me. Arguably can accept she leaves the department but being a Junkie? Wtf? Im even a stoner
My least favourite episode is a tie between this one and Casecation. Everyone acts so out of character, especially Amy in a way that isn't funny in the slightest.
@@shoyuramenoff exactly lmao. like dealing with a bomb threat is very serious (obviously) but dealing with a kid is an ENTIRELY different kind of serious. you don’t deal with a bomb threat for 18 years lmao.
I agree even though it has great bits like the debate, but the whole bomb storyline is what ruins the episode for me more than anything. I would’ve preferred it if they had a more dialogue focused episode with a somewhat of an open ended conclusion and maybe the whole “are we going to have kids” should’ve been a multi episode storyline like Rosa’s coming out story (which in my opinion is one of the best things B99 has ever done)
Its not that bad but it actually doesnt fit in the b99 timeline. The end of the jimmy jab games 2 and the debbie episode would not make a single change in the timeline
Glad I‘m not the only one thinking „the box“ was the best episode. Super fun. Edit: look guys I‘m not in any Brooklyn 99 subs or groups or anything like that. I genuinely didn’t know that it‘s unanimously agreed upon that it‘s the best episode. I was just surprised.
same!! i think, their audience being mostly genz, they could have done a better job understanding meme culture and slang before writing an influencer. to me it felt kind of “old man writing young people jokes”, and although i LOVE chelsea peretti, she is not the most relatable celebrity (to genz i think) in terms of sense of humour
Yes i agree, not that i have experience but i know that 1million subs is quite common on youtube, which either makes the whole 'gina has a show and very devoted, religious fans attending' unrealistic or it makes it funny because Gina would have stayed consistently self-important
I mean lets be honest as a woman who sexually harassed someone in a work place for years without learning or changing it isn’t totally out of the ordinary for her to be shown as the dick she actually is. I found the progression quite realistic and well done. There are much worse episodes like the “debate” ones that everyone in the comments mentioned. It completely ruined the character Amy for me.
I still don't understand why they did Jake and Amy so bad with "Casecation", Jake had said multiple times he wanted kids or phrases like: "I'm so good with weapons, I'm gonna be a great dad." he was just scared of being a bad one. And Amy never "threatened" him like some people are saying, she didn't say "either you stick with me or have kids or I will divorce your ass." She said: "I don't want to start over at an older age." cause she wanted kids, it was important for her and she was not gonna force him to stay and have children, she would have to get divorced, fall in love with someone else, and have kids with THEM. It is realistic, and a fact, not a threat. Yet again, we're talking about AMY SANTIAGO. Incredibly out-of-character for her not to organize a whole day to talk about kids. She has a life schedule Jake has seen, so that she wanted kids, when, where, how, would've been there and he would've seen it. Poorly written. About Gina, 100% agree, hate how what she did and said to Terry was used for comedic purposes, it was sexual harassment. She also used being "named-checked on her kindergarten's suicide note" as a flex. Not funny to me, just an asshole move.
Honestly it was very stupid, because the other way around would have been much better, Jake wanting to be a good dad to compensate for his shitty childhood, and Amy not wanting children due to how it'd mess up her "life schedule"
@@dimitridan8112 FOR HER CAREER. YES! It would still be weird that they never talked about it, but if they wanted to make that unnecessary plotline so bad they could've given her a promotion opportunity that made her back off from wanting kids if they ever discussed it . Anyway, I bet people would still blame Amy for "not letting Jake have children" and "threating that if they had children she would leave him". But you can never win...most couples get married with the idea of wanting kids (coming from someone who doesn't). The idea of NOT wanting them is usually the surprise, but no one blames Jake for not saying anything. It was just very dumb, all of it.
@@dimitridan8112 I disagree. It was addressed in the show: she wanted to climb the leadership ladder so she could negotiate flexible hours that fit her "life schedule". Having Amy believe she cannot have a family because she's career driven is out of character. She's ambitious (and believes she can accomplish anything - including being a mum) and wants to be a good role model. Many women want to keep their jobs and have a family - its mainly inflexible workplaces, lack of maternity leave, or threats of redundancy that reinforces that women have to chose to sacrifice one or the other and I'm glad thats not a stereotype this show pushed.
i always saw that episode as both out of character and also in character. what i mean by this is that both Jake and Amy where JUST MARRIED and they where both approaching the children talk way too early and in a wrong manner. i am glad that the writers did treat this episode as a right idea wrong time to discuss kinda moment of which they handle the baby talk much better in later episodes.
This one and the one about Debby were the worst episodes for me. It's a shame that the quality of the writing went down after how amazing season 5 was :(
I liked a lot about Season 6, like the sexual harassment episode or the final episode where they team up with their enemies. It is for the most part only a few episodes sticking out as bad, like the ones you mentioned
I don't think so Every great show has some minor setbacks But season 7 has some great episodes like where cheddar geta kidnapped and the last lights out one
@@khadijaahsan2970 I imagine they're referring to season 6 ep 8 'He Said, She Said'. It was a really good episode and was actually Stephanie Beatriz's (who plays Rosa) directorial debut. Heavy subject matter for a debut but really well done.
I think it’s a cultural thing. Narcissists and slackers are looked down upon in collectivist cultures, like some countries in Latin America. I live in this region and I’ve met many, many people who are put off by Gina’s selfish character and generally favor Jake as an easygoing but competent professional who ultimately supports everybody. I dunno. That’s my experience.
After the first couple of seasons she’s entirely selfish and it’s all about her. She’s the only character who doesn’t get written as being in the wrong and in need of change, and she’s the one constantly sexually harassing Terry.
Ya, honestly, she feels way too off the rails compared to the other characters and yet what I find more frustrating is that no characters seem to acknowledge it; everyone just let's her do literally anything she wants and it feels like the only reason why is because the writers said so.
Worst episode(s) is the first one from Season 8. Not because of the issue itself, but because of how it is Shoehorned into the show, just for the sake of it, instead of carefully crafting it into the story.....like they used to
@@arianas.532 The message was "I'm ashamed to be a cop" and "there's no such thing as a good cop" and "it's not about you so shut up". You can't write a show intentionally maligning the profession and everybody in it, but simultaneously pretend like they have absolutely zero reason to be offended at the generalization. The message was bad too.
The worst episode for me is one of the Halloween one's, I can't remember which one, but is the one where, for some reason, they thought it was ok to put everyone spying on Peralta's therapy sessions. I really couldn't just let this information flow away.
Halloween heists are supposed to be betrayal and the other side of lovable characters so it’s basically testing the limits , but i agree that the season 7 Halloween heist was the worst of all the other heist ,
I think the captain Kim episode was also pretty sour. there was no need for Jake and Holt to be so mean to a genuinely good person, who even looked up to Holt as an inspiration.
I'm seeing a lot of people bringing up Casecation as their worst episode, which I agree with, it actually made me stop watching for a while when I saw it. But I have a different reason to dislike it as well. To me it felt like it should have been flipped, a lot of Jake's development has been about understanding parenting, with Terry and Boyle's kids being examples, as well as getting over his daddy issues. I feel like he should have been the one who wanted kids while Amy should have been focusing on career stuff. To me it felt like a step back in Jake's development alongside all the uncomfortable moments in the episode
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are so right!!!! I was late to watching B99, and just began back in March or April (whenever Netflix got it). They only posted the first 4 seasons, so I bought the complete DVD series and watched it all. You are 100% correct! Jake grew WAY too much for that to have been his attitude in Casecation. Whereas, Amy may have always wanted kids, but she was speed mentored by Captain Holt, and was about to become Sergeant, so it would make way more sense for her to have reconsidered being a parent until she made captain or something like that. It was one of the worst episodes to me even though I LOVED the entire debate section with all the people quoting their Toastmasters credentials. 😁
Exactly, I would believe Jake would want kids way more than Amy. Many scenes with Amy didn’t seem like she really liked kids, and a lot of people brought up that it would be in her calendar if she actually planned on having kids. It seems more to be the writing going with the stereotype that women want kids and men don’t when I saw it. Heck, the only character in this I agreed with is Terry, because he made a great point
Honestly, B99's biggest weakness was that there were too many things that felt forced, especially when thy tried too hard to mix comedy and drama. Like when Holt and Terry were talking about Terry being racially profiled. It got deep, uncomfortable, somber, and real, then they try to drop some awkward joke about not wanting to go out to the other room because they're avoiding that one lady at the dinner party. It just fell flat in the serious context.
@@LEFT4BASS mixing dramatic scenes and sensitive subjects into a comedy is very difficult and often comes off as awkward. That's why only fools and horses is my favourite sitcom. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you look up the scene where Del and Rodney are arguing after Grandads funeral. It shows how you can make comedy and drama work well together. The whole episode is basically a lesson on the subject
It's not constructive to say this but I really don't like Gina as a character, she just messed with people but it was okay because in that universe she was always right and a valuable life lesson was always learned, but realistically she was just being mean or awkward, that's my opinion anyway, obviously some people love her and I won't begrudge them that but she irritates me
If you ever watcehd Suits, shes a very very annoying version of Donna in that show. They both end up being memes of their original character. Gina is my least favorite character because she feels the most not real character in the show
I'm glad someone said it. I think Chelsea Peretti nailed the character, but I never really liked the character herself. She was kind funny sometimes, but I never found anything all that likable about her.
The first watch through of the show I would have completed agreed, but after watching the show at least 4 times start to finish, I started to actually enjoy her sarcasm. I couldn't imagine the show without her, also why I like the first few seasons better too
Returning her for things like the Halloween episodes was a perfect mini return for her it makes sense in terms of the show and just her character in general. I don’t think she needed a whole episode I think they should’ve just left it at that- it would’ve been cool to see her during the seres finale since the whole episode was fan service lol (but in a good way! I loved that episode I think it was a perfect send off)
Oh god she didnt push him. She wanted a baby. He didnt. Its her right to be upset as its his. But if you dont see the same future, why stay together and resent the other partner in the process? If jake came around, thats his decision, not Amys.
She was very rude about it, didn't care at all about Jake's trauma which she knew about before the talk, and within 2 minutes said "You're either having a baby with me in a month or we're divorcing." It went from 0 to 100 immediately with 0 sympathy or thought put into it. That's the kind of comedic cruelty I would expect of Gina, not Amy.@@not-a-ghost2206
I think this episode amplified some things that were already apparent when Gina left for the first time. Every ensemble character on Brooklyn Nine-Nine had an emotional depth (even Hitchcock had loyalty to Scully), but Gina was largely a one-note narcissist. The rest of the characters developed and matured and basically left her behind, which is why it was so jarring to see the character come back and still be basically the same caricature she was in the first episode. I agree that the episode you’ve highlighted was one of the show’s worst, but I think it was that way due to Gina’s mere presence, not because of an unusually bad treatment of the character.
Gina did though. Her friendship with Jake was a major element in the early seasons because they'd been friends since childhood and they kinda drifted apart over time, but there's the time Jake's about to lose his apartment for example, or the time where her place gets robbed and she's scared to stay there so she keeps spending time in the precint, or even times where she's loyal to Holt, even times where she's been pretty nice to Boyle
I think it’s blatantly not true to say that Gina didn’t grow as a character. Sure she was narcissistic and disrespectful, but that’s where most of the comedy of her character comes from and b99 does a really great job at balancing comedy and drama and character development. We see Gina go from a blatantly rude office assistant with not much direction in life to a sarcastic but still caring grown woman with life goals and a family. She grew up and it didn’t sacrifice what made her funny
@@campbellsande5447 I would argue that her character doesn’t develop, but her situation does. Her two fairwell episodes show much the same character as in the first episode, just now she has a child and different job.
I hated Gina’s character so much for how terribly she treated Terry and got away with it constantly. Every scene where she hits on Terry was viscerally uncomfortable to me, and the fact it was always played for laughs bothers me immensely. She’s a walking double standard and is undoubtedly the aspect of the show that will age the most poorly in the coming decades.
Once it went from FOX TO NBC it decreased in value. I believe if they did two episodes after Jake and Amy's wedding it would've been the perfect ending.
I love this show and I'm sorry to say that I completely agree with you. The wedding (maybe without the last cliffhanger ) would have been a perfect ending. I would have probably have been really bummed out if they had closed it with season 5 but in retrospect I don't feel that seasons 6, 7 and 8 added anything major to the series. Sure there have been good and funny episodes but they are nothing compared to any episode of season 1.
The NBC seasons felt off from the get-go. While I was happy the cast and crew had jobs to go back to, sometimes it is good for a show to end prematurely but also naturally (hot take: it sucked that Firefly was short-lived but its only season was close to perfect). I felt the same way when Scrubs was saved by ABC. Same for Community being saved by Yahoo. But I don't know if it felt different to me because I knew they were on new networks which always leads to tinkering with the creative process.
My least favourite episode was episode 1 of the new season. They obviously had to address the pandemic and all the systemic issues that became focused on, but they are litersely shoving it down your throat the whole time. Ive never heard more unnatural dialogue in media, ever. It felt like it was an obligated episode. It is a little better throughout the Rest of the season, where they have subtle tones that things have changed in world with views on police, but it’s not every sentence. Overall though, I thought the last season had a lot of pretty weak moments, and a good amount of unsatisfying payoff. For example, I’m not a fan of Jake quitting the force to be a father, I understand with his issues with his dad he wanted to be a good dad, but I would’ve liked to see each character excel in their career, since it’s based in a workplace
I totally agree with the jake part, he was the best at his job and had SO much potential to become someone that everybody in the NYPD knew and respected..i mean if it was Amy, the mother, leaving her job to raise her kid, it would have been resented and we all know that.
Jake absolutely loved his job and wouldn't have quit, he would've taken advice from charles and Terry to be a good father and still have a successful career. Last season was a mess and unwanted addition tbh
@@abigase135 man exactly, the advice from terry and charles part is so accurate With jake loving his job the most and also being good at it, it was unsatisfying for me to see him leave it at such young age(job wise).
oh defo not. when u consider he time, place, and context at hand it was a do all or end all situation almost because they were cops. if they didnt it would probably be copaganda and if it was it would get hit on for being too woke when the favt is it was super appropriate and made perfect sense. it was a time were things like this were happening and if they brushed over it like nothing happened then it would just be obvious. i do think they couldve turned it down a bit but when you actually look at the episode from all sides, it makes sense.
Casecation was so bad and - imo - the worst episodes. Jake and Amy not talking about whether to have kids so late in their relationship was incredibly heartbreaking to me, and how cold Amy was makes me feel like she doesn't care about him. blergh
I don't think anybody gets married without knowing if they will be having children. In more traditional societies you don't have a choice or an argument, in the more progressive ones you get to know someone intimately prior to anything.
Not to mention the celebrity status of Gina is unearned, like, okay, one million subscribers. Dude you have any idea how many self made people have one mil and aren't that much of a celebrity?
Ya I don’t think the writers realised that people do not do this to celebrate hitting 1 million subscribers. Hell, most people don’t even rely on it as a job until after hitting 1 mill. This kinda celebration feels like something someone would do after hitting 6-10 million subscribers
I noticed this too like it seemed very unrealistic. Then I looked at it from the angle that Gina is quite narcissistic and could attract fans like that to an event to celebrate a small win like 1million. Or she just thinks that 1 million is amazing and blows it up like 'wow everyone loves me'
Also, seriously, how did she get famous ? At one episode she decided to leave the 99 and pursue other things, she was just a normal secretary (except she didn't do her job and instead just used her cellphone all day long), then 11 episodes later she is super rich and famous ? I think they forced too much on that episode.
I was so so thankful when Gina was off the show. In the first seasons she’s narcissistic but actually caring, and by the middle of the series she was about 95% narcissistic and only 5% caring. They made her character always right, even in facets that were not her strength (the riddle episode with the Beyoncé tickets comes to mind) and it was nauseating. I didn’t even watch the farewell episode, because it was too much of her. Only respect for Christina, her actress, but boy was I so thankful she left
That was just Amy doing Amy things tbh, she always has had a manipulative, hyper competitive side, just the first time it has come out in full force towards Jake. Could have handled it better but the scene where Jake resolved the bomb situation saves that one from being any worse than mediocre for me.
One of the most heinous things they did was have Jake do that arrest and get suspended. He went to prison wrongfully, and was traumatized by that and was much more understanding and careful when arresting because he realized they could be innocent too. Then the writers threw that in the trash.
I'm cool with calling Return of the King the worst episode, but it's not quite right to say The Box is the best episode. It's a great episode where Jake and Holt shine out, but the show isn't only centered on Jake and Holt. Personally, I think Lights Out or HalloVeen are better. But that's from the perspective of a fan who doesn't really think the show ever got too bad (the Debbie arc was weird and season 8 could've used more polish, but it was consistently funny and had pretty good commentary on a number of issues)
My least favourite episode was "Gintars" and to this date it's the only one I haven't even finished. The reason? I'm Latvian, and all the "Nikolaj" jokes are extremely annoying to me because that is not even a Latvian name, not even close. And in "Gintars" those jokes are pushed over the top, plus Gintars himself was pretty much a "backwards country no one's ever heard of" stereotype. Yeah, that didn't sit well with me at all.
@@yasininn76 literally everyone knows where latvia is… you replied to a person from that country, thats such a weird and offensive thing to say. latvia being an unkown country on the show was an annoying theme and i hated it too, truly shows how americans dont care or know about anything that isnt in the us
This is a great analysis of the episode! SEMANTICALLY speaking though, the fact that this is the worst episode in the series does Not mean it is a bad episode per se. It simply means that all the other episodes were better than this one. What I mean with this is that "Return of The King," albeit considerably lowering the bar, still fit somehow in the Brooklyn Nine-Nine universe; it wasn't THAT out of place. Drops in quality happen almost always and it could have been far worse. All in all, the show managed to stay pretty consistent for its whole run.
I kind of liked Gina in the the earlier seasons. There was a hint of heart behind her crazy persona. I always felt like there was a bit of lonliness to her character, considering that she was the only employee who wasnt a cop. This was especially apparent in the arc where Jake and Holt had to go into witness protection in Florida and she helped save the two of them. At that point, I thought Gina's arc was going to involve her getting bored of assitant life and deciding she can do better, entering the police academy and having the rest of the precinct help her become a cop
I liked some aspects of this over the top version of Gina, I saw it kinda as a power hungry persona that just got off on the idea of people idplizing her (as she always has). My favourite joke in the episode was the girl going "Gina look at me" and she does and the girl just starts screaming lol like that was the perfect amount of kookiness I needed in this episode
It was a bad episode to be sure, but honestly I can throw a rock at the final season and hit multiple episodes that I felt were worse. It was the worst Gina episode to be sure, but not the worst episode in the shows history (in my opinion).
Honestly the worst for me was the episode where Jake and Amy had a huge disagreement over whether or not they wanted to have kids, and at the end of it, Jake just decides he wants to have kids. It felt like a cop-out ending, and really out of character for him based on what they had already established in the episode. It didn't feel like something he wanted, but all of a sudden he just did. Same vibe as how the Wandavision finale fixed every problem a little too neatly.
Ending really was kind of botched for casecation, they set things up but didn’t pay them off, if the episode had been a Two parter, or just had the plot line carry one directly into the next episode, where they could have had a real heart to heart, I think it would have been seen as a very good episode, even great
Not sure if I'd call it the WORST episode, but I'd definitely put it in the bottom 5 or 10 lol The Box on the other hand is one of the best episodes of ANY sitcom I've ever seen! And considering it only had 2 of the main actors (with a brief appearance of Gina at the beginning), that makes it all the more impressive imo 👍 Definitely going to miss getting new seasons of that show💔😓
No way is the worst, the season 8 opener was by far worse. No humor, just name-dropping current events and focusing the whole plot on apologising for being a cop show. S8 as a whole was alright, but the opener was a disaster.
I, don't even need to watch the entire video to know that it's about Gina. Seriously, there are people that like the character... But she leaving and giving more screen time to Scully and Hitchcock was the best that could happen to the show.
Hitchcock and scully don't go around bully people and make fun of them considering they are both health hazards to themselves, they stick to their desk and do absolutely whatever they want.but when it comes to helping the squad they unknowingly turn out to be total genuises.. They have saved jakey Terry from the mob, saved their informant, yet they don't get their due credit
casecation sucks so bad. when everyone agreed with amy i was actually so shocked, i thought they would understand jake’s perspective, especially when rosa just completely agreed with amy, not knowing the entire story. it’s so unlike her. it wasn’t even that jake just didn’t want kids for no reason, he made amy completely aware of his reasonings and the WORST part is when amy threatens to leave jake if he doesn’t want kids. she said it like it was no big deal and went so far as to do a whole debate with their boss about it. i usually kind of like amy, but in that episode she really needed to understand jakes point of view. also, amy just fully expected jake to be totally on board with having kids when she didn’t even make the effort of talking about it before their marriage and brought it up completely out of the blue. but the rest of the episode where jake convinces pam not to let off the bomb was really good, i actually enjoyed the suspense in thrill in that part of the episode. but overall the episode was super stressful and i js didn’t like it at all.
Ngl I kind of saw that coming, we see so much of the good side of Amy, but she is very adamant about some things. For me though, it was more of a cultural thing, speaking as a Cuban, we as a people are very stubborn, and in disagreement we tend to get VERY nasty. With that in mind you can see it coming.
Irony is that then she had a terrible time getting pregnant and suddenly Jake’s suggestion of “lets take a break and think about what we want to do” wasn’t so awful when she realised she couldn’t control it
@@GiselleKlaraI’m also not a big fan that when they couldn’t have kids, they kinda brushed through the conversation of other options, like adoption, by having the talk but it not really meaning much to say there’s other ways they can have kids. I’m sorry, I had to compare it to friends when I saw that scene when it felt like they were about to give up after the frustration of casecation. Even weirder was when Amy was telling Jake he should decide fast only for her to say they’ll wait awhile before trying to
Casecation had a pretty bad show for Amy’s character and The Good Ones had a tone that was a bit too dark for a comedy, but what’s your issue with He Said She Said? As far as a 22-minute episode goes, I think it handled the subject matter well. It provided a good look into many different aspects of the subject matter and a compelling plot and conflict, while also keeping the tone light enough and still managing to have room for a fun B-plot about Holt and the Disco Strangler. It’s not perfect, but it was still a pretty damn good episode.
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ the biggest problem for me was the false things said, but also making jake the bad guy, and ignoring certaon characters backstorys. Tackling each in order 1. Amy says a couple different times in different ways "every single women i know has gone through this" is an absolutely ridiculous claim because "this" was actual sexual assault from a coworker. 2. Amy constantly made jake seem like he was in the wrong for even considering other actions, and jake acted like, even though hes never done anythong like this, he qas still resp9nsible for it happening. 3. Hitchcock constantly harasses women, and gina was constanrly harassing(and assaulting) terry. So for them to not even touch those issues, but still act like its characters like jake that are the problem, it becomes preachy, and makes the viewer(at least the male ones from the ones i talked to) feel like theyre being scolded for something theyve never done or condoned
i’m not even kidding, every send off clip you showed other than the office, are all of my favorite shows. community, shameless, that 70s show, superstore, sometimes two and a half men, parks and rec, and this video of b-99. that’s crazy. you nailed it. and almost all of those shows were great without them. obviously and sadly not the same but still good none the less.
I think because Gina was a very funny character most people ignore how narcissistic and downright cruel she was at times. I liked the episode because it made you reflect on all the little "quirks" she displayed and how she treats people. I don't think she was that far removed from the original Gina but it was a somewhat reasonable portrayal of how quick and excessive fame can alter a personality and enhance these negative traits, specially without the 99, there weren't any characters left to ground her in reality.
The people who are saying “She’s a bit of a bitch but that’s ok bc she was always like that” didn’t get Gina’s characterization, like, at all. She’s a woman who has grandiose dreams and uses self-obsession and cynicism as a shield (which she admits to, so this is not an overintellectualization). Her self-obsession doesn’t necessarily mean she’s heartless or a “bitch”. She helps people by challenging them to up their game, she can be incredibly kind and sweet, she’s loyal (at least she was before NBC writers fucked her character arc) and she’s funny as hell. I’ve been saying the show has been mediocre at best since NBC took over and that’s mainly because there’s no nuance to the characters anymore. Ruining Gina’s characterization was the biggest mistake ever because she’s a great example of a character having textbook negative qualities but being so loved by the fans, and instead of expanding on this contrast they wrote her off only to bring her back so they can make her into a 2000s high school movie villain. (Also agree with the comments about Casecation - worst ep ever)
I actually liked this episode. Was Gina an absolute bitch? Yes, but that's who she always was. Add fame and money to her narcissism and this was a completly belivable and predictable result. And at the end of the ep, she agreed to see Jake more. Imo it perfectly fit with her character (which, unpopular opinion, I actually like. She's a terrible person, but she's not real, she's just a character on a TV show, so I find her funny). Anyway, Ig another reason why I didn't hate it as much as you is that I didn't see this as a farewell episode at all. It was just the return of a character that had already left. I do think maybe it being in s7 would've fit better though.
It was absolutely the episode where Amy strong arms Jake into having a baby. Gina was the worst character, but she wasn't the centre of the worst episode.
I only watched this episode once, because I really didn't like It. But I remember that what made me the most uncorfortable was how It reminded me of how Jake's dynamyc with his father was at the beggining of the show. Always making up excuses for him, even blaming himself for his father letting him down. Jake hás a lot of issues as consequence of his father's bad parenting, and Gina, who knew him since ever, whom certainly must know that, was acting the same way, while Jake, that went trough the process of accepting his father was wrong and stopping excusing him, was falling into the same pattern again.
Bishop's send off is what made me realize NCIS had phased into going on for too long. I loved her up until then.. They essentially ruined her character with just one episode, while neglecting the relationships she'd made with the other agents. Truly disappointing
Did seem to come out of nowhere. Nothing you can really do if the character's actor decides to leave but it doesn't mean you lazily manufacture a reason they leave!
Yeah, they didn't do Bishop's send off very well. I think they set up these relationships especially between her and Nick and then the actor decides to leave and that probably threw them off a bit and the definitely didn't seem to know what to do because they have lost the one female on the team again. Though I think the episodes after the actor who plays Nick did a good job showing how her leaving affected him. Then shortly after Gibbs left which i think they actually had been planning on him leaving for a while now, but I personally think they did a good job with Gibbs' send off. While I love Gibbs, his character was getting old in more ways than one way especially with the climate around cops right now and how Gibbs' as a character would often break the rules to catch the criminal and get away with it. Which if they want to keep a show like NCIS, they can't perpetuate that behavior when it is being so heavily criticized in real life. Besides, I actually have enjoyed the guy they replaced him with. He brings something new and fresh to the NCIS boss character and dynamic with the other characters. And as I said Gibbs was getting old. The storylines surrounding him were becoming same old, same old thing over and over with little variations. And while I love the characters especially Gibbs, the show was getting a bit boring and I had stopped consistently watching for years now. The new characters mixed with the characters we have known for years give me hope that NCIS can feel a bit more fresh and interesting again.
Gina was by far my least favorite character. She just seems so out of place all the time. And I feel like she most of time did nothing for the story and was just there to be funny even though she was not funny at all, more annoying. And I hated that she was always mean to Amy for no reason. I did not miss her at all wen she left.
Shout-out to that one time Holt immiddiately suspended Jake, actually thinking that he'd intentionally set off a device that destroyed evidence after Dillman suggested it. It was one thing to think that it was a prank gone wrong, but it was quite another to so coldly dismiss him out of hand and think that he'd do something like that over his desire to be put on the special task force - in fact, just in general, the way he went about revealing that information during the episode seemed... Really dam cold. I thought that the defining characteristics of Holt where that underneath his cold demeanor he genuinely cared about and understood his colleagues, so I really can't imagine that he wouldn't have sat Jake down and talked him through his decision, but instead he basically spends the whole episode dismissing and putting him down, needlessly letting Jake hope for the position when he's already made up his mind for someone else before tactlessly revealing it in front of everyone, and it just comes off as mean spirited and honestly rather mean. It's almost as if his whole relationship with Jake just got reset for the episode, but only from Holt's end. There seemed to be no trust or care from Holt down to Jake, as if it where an episode written for the beginning of their relationship, not several seasons down the line where they've both been through literal life and death situations together. There wasn't even an apology from what I remember at the end. Jake supported Charles and that was nice, but for an episode where Holt spent the entire time dismissing one of his best detectives and most trusted colleagues out of hand, all we get at the end is him... Not giving any sort of apology and refusing to acknowledge him again for a joke.
For me, keep in mind this is the only episode of season 8 I've seen so far, the worst is the first episode of season 8. Nearly everything it tried to do, it failed at miserably or shouldn't have tried, being the show it is, and the show and characters barely seemed like themselves. In general it made me kinda sick to my stomach.
Yeah Amy should NOT have forced him into having children and also putting him in a situation where he has to go through a frickin debate just for her to be selfish and say that she would break up with him if he didn’t want to is a really horrific thing to do
CHARACTERS BEING MALICIOUS DOESNT MAKE AN EPISODE BAD. What makes a bad episode is if it is unfunny, poorly written, or simply of poor quality all around. In casecation, Amy doesn’t really act out of character (we know she is incredibly competitive) the one thing is that kids never coming up before casecation is frankly insane, I mean, the show completely forgot “moo moo” happened, I think it’s obvious that children would have come up between the two in the aftermath of that all. I’m pretty sure there are even a few other moments where Peralta thinks about fatherhood in a positive light before s6 than just that. For me, casecation is just an all round “kinda bad but really just mediocre” episode.
@@nordaj_ regardless of whether or not you think the episode handled its theme well. Handling a theme well doesnt equal a good episode of TV, It can really help, but its more of a baseline rather than something that should be praised, and even if it is done well it can be boring and out of place.
I thought it made sense. Like, it's a miracle that someone like Rosa, who's fiercely independent, and has trouble with establishment and institutions in general, who's ex-boyfriend is a coke addicted private detective, would leave the police to become a private detective. The baseline was already there, she just needed a proper reason to resign.
I like how the episode shows that when someone leaves a show they don’t die, and a lot of the time people don’t change some people sour in a very poor way especially when gaining fame, it’s not great for a story standpoint but it’s realistic
I watched the first episode of the 8th season and thought it was so bad that I lost interest in watching the 8th season at all. I'm not surprised it was their last. Way too concerned with trying to appease our world, rather than living in their own. I have a vague recollection of giving s08e02 a shot, but don't remember much about it.
I think I understand where you're coming from in this video. I think that, whenever you think the worst episode of the show is, this is a decent contender either way. But, I do disagree with the characterization of Gina, and your characterization of the writers characterization of Gina, if that makes any sense. Gina was always a really terrible person. From her constant disrespect of her superiors, and so-called friends, repeated assaults and weird behavior and harassment, and particularly sexual harassment towards Terry, in many episodes, though as time went on it got a little less prominent, it was still very troubling. You suggest that the writers extremely exaggerated Gina's character flaws in this episode, but honestly, it seems pretty on brand. I think the fact is, we finally got a close and extended look at Gina in this episode, and it just shows much better in that light, that she really is and always has been a pretty awful person. I was under the impression that we were supposed to dislike her, that she was supposed to be an unlikable character, and in that context, I enjoyed the character work and writing. But I hear from a lot of fans of the show that they like her, and were disappointed when she behaved an unlikeable manner, which confused me xD.
The worst episode of B99 is He Said, She Said and it's not close. Preachy, atonal, has an impractical plot, and gives Amy a ridiculous out-of-character scene in order to deliver THE MESSAGE™.
YES THIS 1 THE IDEA THAT AMY WASNT PROMOTED PURLEY BY MERIT IS LAUGHABLE 2 WHY IS JAKE (THE MAN WHO WENT TO PRISION BECAUSE HE WAS FRAMED, AND BECAME LESS WILLING TO ARREST BECAUSE OF THAT) SO DOWN WITH JUMPING STRAIGHT TO A CONCLUSION.
if im being honest i hated the entire 8th season. Just didn't have the comedic genuis feeling that the other seasons had. I know they had to rush it due to covid but I would've waited for us to acc get good episodes
i agree, season 8 was a shit show tbh, the ending where Jake quits is so out of character and i feel like neither of them needed to quit their jobs to raise mac.
My most hated video was the last judy and jake episode it undermined everything about their unique friendship like are you guys just realizing ur on opposite sides of the fence?
and it's supposed to be heartwarming, but a major car thief was just set free by a cop because they were friends??? hes immediately going to go commit more crimes; this is a bad ending lol
I didn’t mind this episode, it didn’t feel like she was out of character at all, to me the worst episode was Jimmy Jabs 2. It was comedically ridiculous and they were constantly lowering the bar on how much they reached for comedy, going so far low as a right out penis joke without any other context, And felt completely unoriginal and undoing all character development.
season 8 as a whole was a disappointment tbh, i was really hoping for a better ending for jake maybe a promotion to work in the fbi where he would be able to work more flexible hours? i'm glad they address racism and police brutality but i also think they could have gone about it better, also for a comedy i just didnt find the last few season any where near as funny as the earlier seasons, the later episodes are just really cringey as they started to move away from the more dry humour.
I know I’m two years late But… Most of these comments are saying how “Casecation” was the worst episode. I completely agree, but, in my opinion, the only thing that ruined it was the debate. The writers should’ve made Amy and Jake talk about it, and try not to make it funny (which it wasn’t.) They should’ve also let the other characters just…let Jake make his own decision😐
I disagree. This episode depicts the true Gina. A Gina without anyone telling her that she is out of line. A Gina without the 99. An episode displaying all of her toxic traits, which fans have turned a blind eye to for years.
Casecation and the Halloween heist where Amy hired someone to pretend to be a mental health professional so she could spy on Jake's heist plans, while he did therapy. Unorthodox, disrespectful, invasion of privacy, violation of trust. I was absolutely disgusted
The worst to me was when Jake brought up genuine trauma in reasoning for not wanting kids, and Amy then berates him and threatens to leave him over it.
I honestly don’t hate any episode in the show but Amy shouldn’t have done that at all. On the other hand I blame both of them they should’ve talked about this BEFORE getting married
THIS!!! Amy showed NO compassion.
Well it's not a threat really. Having kids is not something you can forget. Lots of couples break up because one wants kids and the other doesn't
@@pmparda no she literally told him that if he doesn’t want kids she’ll have to start over with someone new
Seems so out of character for her and for the show. Weird and infuriating.
I hated this episode. Gina was sarcastic, comedically rude, and always right in other episodes, but she was always nice to jake. Their relationship helped me love her. The friendship brought out good things in both of them. Her being awful to Jake made me so mad.
Eh, you may be giving the character too much praise. She could be funny, but a lot of episodes, I feel the writers had a better idea how to make us like Hitchcock and Scully than Gina.
Yea considering the relationship Gina and jake had before and during the time of the show felt very off- if it was Boyle for example I think it would’ve worked a lot better- but it was super nice to see her in the Halloween heist episodes- I think that was a perfect return for her they should’ve of left it at that
She was always a rude bully. People are just mad that she's actually showing that side of her
Gina was always kind of a jerk. Who makes people drink wet cement?
Same..... I disliked gina's obnoxious attitude and this was the one that solidified that. She was a key character for content but in a way that's just off-putting
For me, the worst episode was when everyone manipulated Jake into accepting being a father even though he doesn't want to be. If you're not okay with kids in the first year then don't force them. Just be patient until both partners are ready. Never force someone to have kids when they're not ready.
i feel like you need to rewatch that episode, jake said he might never want kids, not that he's not ready, thats why they had the debate. Also "everyone manipulated Jake into accepting being a father" is such a lie, the only person who was trying to convince him was Amy, ahd she's his wife who wanted kids, she did nothing wrong, Terry even tells him not to do it if he's not sure.
@@amancherry3998 huh, amy set this arbitrary debate system and brought Holt and Kevin into the debate as biased debate judges
so... she technically wasn't the only one
It was so out of character for Amy to do what she did. It was also out of character for Jake -- the episode made it look like he didn't want kids when he had always wanted them. If anything, the debate should have been or "now or later?" or even "I want kids, but do I want to be a father? is it really what I want in my life?" Not that stupid, unhealthy debate.
@@matheussanthiago9685 Kevin and Holt were not biased
@@amancherry3998 they were.
Sorry, for me, nothing will be worse than Casecation. Because Jake is treated as being wrong and is bullied by his coworkers, when he has a right to not want kids, especially if he doesn't feel mature enough for it. It just feels like the squad coerced Jake into wanting kids, which isn't a good thing.
Bullied by his co-workers? Terry was on his side. Rosa didn't talk to him at all about it and once Amy took his side seriously he told him to figure out soon IF he wants kids so she will know what to do about it.
I’m on This one next…
@@pmparda Rosa wanted to bully him into agreeing to kids. The whole debate thing was stupid and Amy threatened with leaving him.
@@Isabelle-hv6ny it's not a threat it's a valid reason for breaking up with someone.
@@Isabelle-hv6ny and wanting to do something is not the same as doing it
Something I thought was quite strange is that Gina’s baby or baby daddy aren’t mentioned at all in Return of the King even when she was literally stabbed
YES.
Yes! And in the Boyle episode of season 9, I was expecting her boyfriend and her to show up (after all he's said to be a Boyle)... It simple didn't make sense to me that when their grandfather passed away they wouldn't come to the funeral...
Also, something that never made sense to me is the fact that the family of the characters never comes to important events (like when rosa and pimento got married, her parents didn't come, also when Holt and Kevin renewed their vows, it would have been very nice to see 1) if kevins parents evolved with time as their said to be very homophobic 2) holt's mom, their "robot" dynamic is very funny, and most importantly when Jake and Amy got married, I was like "where is their family??")...
Anyway, it simple didn't make sense to me that in these events it always seemed to be only the precinct... Even Terry and Charles spouses never show up which is very odd
@@saskialima9144 oh yh I forgot he was a Boyle that literally more reason it makes sense no sense he was never mentioned at the very least by Boyle himself
@@saskialima9144 for Amy and jake’s wedding was kind of messed up due to the whole bomb thing , so their parents went out for dinner and left (jake mentions it ) .
I thought most people considered Casecation to be the worst (the one where Jake & Amy are in a hospital for a case and have a formal debate over having kids). Almost any time I see that episode brought up people always call it out for feeling uncomfortable and out of character.
Though I will say this particular episode also wasn’t one my favs, sort of feels like it just brought out the worst in Gina.
Well I don’t really like those episodes either I als didn’t really like the first episode of season 7. I know it was important to them because all of the horrible things happening in America but I think it could have been way better. I think because they put everything in one episode it became way to heavy on politics. Don’t get me wrong, I get why it is important but I feel like they could have handled it better.
Yeah everyones bringing that one up what episode was that and of what season
@@suzannedevlieger2838 episodes like that are cringey and forced and thats why i dont like them , i see it in all shows related to law enforcement or blackness, and i feel it ruins the shows authenticity , when its forcing these topics into the plot just so they wont get cancelled
I feel like the idea behind "The Return of the King" wasn't all that bad: they wanted to show that without any real human connection and by becoming a star, Gina had lost touch with who she was and who she had grown to be, and reconnecting with the 99 would help her not forget who she is. Interesting concept... but awful execution. They just turned her into an asshole and this episode never showed the original Gina, even at the end. On the other hand, the series finale made a much better job at bringing Gina back, I believe.
While I generally agree, I was kind of entertained by the debate, especially as more people ended up being on the line. It's just a gag that I found funny. The rest of the criticism, yeah.
Why was the end of the episode not mentioned? Gina and Jake reconciled and agreed to see each other more. Personally, I found the episode really funny and although Gina was a bit of a jerk, her behavior did fit with her character. My only complaint is that the episode should have been in season 7 or 8.
@@tigamaki1345 I believe they reconcile right after Gina is stabbed, before she gets put on pain pills, and her promise seems sincere. They are also shown hanging out at the end of the episode, evidence that Gina is following through on her promise
I agree, Gina wasn't outta character
I've always hated Gina as a character
@@lawsonspencer Sometimes I found her to be just a bit too mean, but she had some of the best lines of the whole show
My thing is its a classic thing to happen when people rise to fame and gain a following
The tend to forget to keep in touch with the people that kept them grounded before fame
And given ginas character definitely a trait i could see her having
The worst episode is obviously the one that they all suspected the new female captain to be a bad captain, and they just straight up bully her away, while she is being completely nice and friendly, they never showed her again, and they didn’t apologize or make it up.
That episode sucked! The female captain was so nice, I would'vd loved to have seen her more
that one was so funny
There was a female captain? 😮
Jake and holt really were the only ones who thought that. The rest of the crew LOVED her! I did wish she stayed for a few more episodes
I actually really liked that one since it played off of trope that jake and holt are always right. Throughout the episode I was just thinking “oh wow, how are they going to make them right this time?” While rolling my eyes, but the twist genuinely got me
Gina's entire personality in the show is centered around her narcissism. She is constantly shown as self centered, and just because she cares about her friends doesn't make her suddenly a well adjusted human. I like the episode in how it showed what success and power can do to a person. I was recently watching a video about Chevy Chase, and someone quoted Bill Murray as saying "you have about two years of success where you have to learn to stop being an asshole. If someone can't manage success without being an asshole by then, then it isn't going to happen"
the only thing i hated about B99 was that Gina's attitude is never onced called out and she never faces any consequence. don't' get me wrong i love Gina but the show always hammered home that she wasn't a good person entirely and they never actually addressed it.
Your comment is spot-on. This episode was Classic Gina. She was always like this!
@@slushpuppie19 yeah but when she was rude to people it used to be funny
I like how everybody knows Chevy Chase is an asshole who's ego far surpasses his talent.
Except for Chevy Chase himself.
I was hoping that they would give Gina an actual send off and show that she has grown beyond her narcissistic traits and come to embrace the family around her that supported her all those years. Nope. She turns into an egotistical monster characateur using her friends when she needs them. At least its accurate to narcissism!?
This episode is a weaker one. But the only one I truly hate is the one where Debbie holds Jake and Rosa hostage (S7 E5). It just feels so cartoony and childish, like it was written for a completely different show.
Oh lord that one sucked
The whole Debbie arc kinda sucked. It would've been nice if she were just a one-off character, but dear lord, this woman didn't do anything to deserve her whole life falling apart! Vanessa Bayer also isn't that funny, like she's the RUclipsr some people might enjoy, but most would kind of write off.
The debbie arc was awfule but shes my favourtie character simply because of how insane and hilarious she is
@@unknown_limes Vanessa Bayer is great, I don't blame her for that shitty episode.
I actually think Debbie's character is used to show how you can ruin your own life through mental health issues and bad decisions. She never meant to be awful, but she became awful by taking the wrong advice about how to deal with her struggles. I agree it could've been done better, but then not every episode will be a hit (especially where there's 7 seasons, and I suspect it was never expected to be greenlit for more than 3 or 4). It's never explicitly stated, but it isn't in real life either.
I agree to a certain extent about her return, but I don’t think it’s the worst episode. It’s an episode that might have been better in a much later season, but it kinda highlights what happens when a character like herself is removed from the people who help keep her in check, for the most part. It’s a reminder that she needs to remember where she came from and what’s she’s learned from her friends. Overall, she can be rather obnoxious before her send off, well, her first one, but grows on you.
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Comedy in B99 seems derrived from juxtaposition. They place opposites in front of each other and see how they clash. The most front and center dynamic of Peralta and Holt is a perfect example.
Things like Jake coming into Holt's office, requesting a selfie and just taking one as Holt denies the request in a deadpan voice is funny because these opposites interract.
But this happens in characters themselves too.
Boyle's completely unearned confidence (like with the boxing match for the movie tickets) compared to his usual doormat demeanor is funny; Rosa being this hardened badass who likes Nancy Meyers movies is funny; Holt, straight-faced saying "Cowabunga, mother!" is funny.
Gina being this larger than life snarker is funny BECAUSE she's a civilian administrator (only default non-badass of the main cast) and assistant (by definition in service to the rest at work). Her sass against cops(claiming she needs a gun licence because her precinct's cops suck, while living in 99 territory), casually suggesting crime (rounding down drug weighing, selling what they skim off the top), and her general alpha behaviour is funny because the idea of an assistant is more in line with how Santiago is written.
Put her in the position of minor celebrety...influencer...cult leader...thing? and this doesn't work anymore, even if she's written the way she was.
Every character's comedy works in part because of the position they're in. Take them out, and you have to bring out some A-game writing to not make it weird or bad.
Yes! I agree with the premise of the video, that this episode doesn't work, but the analysis on why didn't sit right with me. Came to the comments searching for another idea and I think you're spot on! Gina's crazy confidence and absurd disrespect works when she's tethered to a dead end job that puts her in a subservient position, but not when she's uber powerful and has everything she's every wanted. It just pushes her to an extreme and doesn't gel with the tone of the show. Where Brooklyn 99 is usually about deconstructing archetypes, this episode just ended up playing into the narcissitic influencer stereotype.
These are both such great analyses oml
this is such an amazing analysis
I think this is the best explaination yet. It makes perfect sense why they ended up letting her character spiral into an asshole when they took away what grounded her.
Apt apt analysis
Agree with Casecation being the worst, especially with Amy my second most favorite character (after Holt), no way she would not discussed children before marrying Jake. Close second is when Jake deported the biological father of Boyle's son, looks really bad on Jake, imagine if the Dad wasn't white
1. His father was a bad person, with a knock off clothing brand and trying to pull nikolash away from boyle 2. What does his race have anything to do with the story or deportation? 3. Hes not white hes latvian
the one where jake deports nikolaj's bio dad is the worst for me. casecation has at least some weak form of forced resolution? but nikolaj's dad is just gone forever, and jake suffers no consequences from his actions! if gintars' actor wasn't white, the episode would've 100% been boycotted and for good reason
@@shen-qf9mc i request you read my above comment on this
@@camerannicephore5262 i did and i ignored it. not even the show agrees with you; jake admits that gintars didn't deserve deportation
@@shen-qf9mc no, the show says that jake was wrong for going over boyles head. And not to mention, again, race has nothing to do with it. And he wasnt white
Seeing Troy on the boat being pulled away from Abed triggers me every time... most heartbreaking send off in any sitcom i've seen
abed died there
The boat was called American Gambino or something ryt? Season 06 of community has become the worst season for me because of the void I felt without the dynamic Troy-Abed relationship. But hey, the worst season of Community is still a lot better than most of the high ranking seasons of other sitcoms.
@@pasandesilva2295 not every day you see someone say that there’s a worse season than season 4… but I understand missing Troy, he definitely was the heart of the show. I still loved a lot of season 6 moments tho
@@beyondviolet Oh the freaking gas leak year 😂 yeah that dropped the royal level Community maintained S1-S3, but at least all the 07 of Greendale 07 were there! Yess there were some moments in S06 were truly special, for me the Moonlight song by Natalie is freezing 🔥, but the first three seasons were solid gold TV!
yeah, the show left a hollow void in the group’s dynamic once Pierce left, but things really collapsed for good once Troy left. it’s nice that it made more room for Abed and Annie dynamics, but man it was so much fun when the three were together (they were the youngest of the group which helped their dynamic)
This video reminded me of how disappointed I was with how Rosa was handled in the final season. I had no problems with her leaving the 99, that felt in character, but it felt like the writers just kinda went “make the serious character do a not serious thing = comedy” for every episode of the final season.
yeah it was literally the same with jake but the other way round
@@emp5922 make a non serious character do a serious thing? I still havent watched season 6-8 but knowing jake leaves nypd is so sad lol
Rosa really pissed me off in season 8, especially throwing away her and Jake's friendship like it was garbage. I was also a little ticked at Stephanie Biatriz because she'd been playing the character long enough that she should have known that Rosa would jever do something like that.
I almost did not watch the final season because of it's first episode. Rosa getting high was just too incoherent to me. Arguably can accept she leaves the department but being a Junkie? Wtf? Im even a stoner
@@fele09 it did tick me off but at least it was for a medical reason and she stopped after the first time she did it.
Whoever was her stylist in the later seasons did her dirty because Gina's looks in earlier seasons were fire
YES! a thousand times yes. Gina suddenly had a changed look and it took me a while to notice it
100% agree with this! I hate how dirty she was done in the later seasons
i feel like nbc just hated chelsea peretti so much
after she straightened her hair things just went downhill
She got extremely fat. There's nothing you can do. Terrible disease.
My least favourite episode is a tie between this one and Casecation. Everyone acts so out of character, especially Amy in a way that isn't funny in the slightest.
Casecation episode just make Jake seems like unreasonable, while he's being perfectly reasonable considering his own upbringing
@@danielruiz8259 Having a kid is also a really big deal, and it's weird that they didn't even talk about that.
i agree with casecation! it was so difficult to watch
@@shoyuramenoff exactly lmao. like dealing with a bomb threat is very serious (obviously) but dealing with a kid is an ENTIRELY different kind of serious. you don’t deal with a bomb threat for 18 years lmao.
I agree even though it has great bits like the debate, but the whole bomb storyline is what ruins the episode for me more than anything. I would’ve preferred it if they had a more dialogue focused episode with a somewhat of an open ended conclusion and maybe the whole “are we going to have kids” should’ve been a multi episode storyline like Rosa’s coming out story (which in my opinion is one of the best things B99 has ever done)
I'll be honest, this episode is still way better than the Debbie one ugh
the Debbie episode just felt like a fever dream
Wdym the debbie one was good
Debbie, NBC’s terrible attempt at a new character
There is no debbie episode in ba sing se...
@@candelariagarlot8666 NBC has invited you to lake laogai.....
you cannot convince me that casecation is not the worst episode
The one where debbie holds jake and rosa hostage
Its not that bad but it actually doesnt fit in the b99 timeline.
The end of the jimmy jab games 2 and the debbie episode would not make a single change in the timeline
@@renstrout yes that’s why I hate it because Jake and Amy have talked about this before but NBC didn’t care to do their research
@@gavingrier8770 yep
Ok, you don't matter enough for me to try convincing you.
Glad I‘m not the only one thinking „the box“ was the best episode. Super fun.
Edit: look guys I‘m not in any Brooklyn 99 subs or groups or anything like that. I genuinely didn’t know that it‘s unanimously agreed upon that it‘s the best episode. I was just surprised.
It was Peraltas finest moment as a detective, and the peak of his relationship with Holt.
If anything, most love The Box.
I don’t understand why they couldn’t make more episodes that focused on actually solving interesting crimes.
Nerdstalgic also has a video focused on that episode. You should check it out if you haven’t already!
You know you ain't.... If your on any Brooklyn Nine-Nine fan page many people bang on about how it's the best episode 🙄🤣
I like the idea of Gina being an influencer, but it wasn’t done well.
same!! i think, their audience being mostly genz, they could have done a better job understanding meme culture and slang before writing an influencer. to me it felt kind of “old man writing young people jokes”, and although i LOVE chelsea peretti, she is not the most relatable celebrity (to genz i think) in terms of sense of humour
Because most influencers are narcissistic and mean and love to pick on people and bring them down
@@fauxskull5982 but it’s Gina. She’s already a bit egotistical but cares about her friends
Yes i agree, not that i have experience but i know that 1million subs is quite common on youtube, which either makes the whole 'gina has a show and very devoted, religious fans attending' unrealistic or it makes it funny because Gina would have stayed consistently self-important
I mean lets be honest as a woman who sexually harassed someone in a work place for years without learning or changing it isn’t totally out of the ordinary for her to be shown as the dick she actually is. I found the progression quite realistic and well done. There are much worse episodes like the “debate” ones that everyone in the comments mentioned. It completely ruined the character Amy for me.
I still don't understand why they did Jake and Amy so bad with "Casecation", Jake had said multiple times he wanted kids or phrases like: "I'm so good with weapons, I'm gonna be a great dad." he was just scared of being a bad one. And Amy never "threatened" him like some people are saying, she didn't say "either you stick with me or have kids or I will divorce your ass." She said: "I don't want to start over at an older age." cause she wanted kids, it was important for her and she was not gonna force him to stay and have children, she would have to get divorced, fall in love with someone else, and have kids with THEM. It is realistic, and a fact, not a threat. Yet again, we're talking about AMY SANTIAGO. Incredibly out-of-character for her not to organize a whole day to talk about kids. She has a life schedule Jake has seen, so that she wanted kids, when, where, how, would've been there and he would've seen it. Poorly written. About Gina, 100% agree, hate how what she did and said to Terry was used for comedic purposes, it was sexual harassment. She also used being "named-checked on her kindergarten's suicide note" as a flex. Not funny to me, just an asshole move.
Honestly it was very stupid, because the other way around would have been much better, Jake wanting to be a good dad to compensate for his shitty childhood, and Amy not wanting children due to how it'd mess up her "life schedule"
@@dimitridan8112 FOR HER CAREER. YES! It would still be weird that they never talked about it, but if they wanted to make that unnecessary plotline so bad they could've given her a promotion opportunity that made her back off from wanting kids if they ever discussed it . Anyway, I bet people would still blame Amy for "not letting Jake have children" and "threating that if they had children she would leave him". But you can never win...most couples get married with the idea of wanting kids (coming from someone who doesn't). The idea of NOT wanting them is usually the surprise, but no one blames Jake for not saying anything. It was just very dumb, all of it.
@@dimitridan8112 I disagree. It was addressed in the show: she wanted to climb the leadership ladder so she could negotiate flexible hours that fit her "life schedule".
Having Amy believe she cannot have a family because she's career driven is out of character. She's ambitious (and believes she can accomplish anything - including being a mum) and wants to be a good role model. Many women want to keep their jobs and have a family - its mainly inflexible workplaces, lack of maternity leave, or threats of redundancy that reinforces that women have to chose to sacrifice one or the other and I'm glad thats not a stereotype this show pushed.
i always saw that episode as both out of character and also in character.
what i mean by this is that both Jake and Amy where JUST MARRIED and they where both approaching the children talk way too early and in a wrong manner. i am glad that the writers did treat this episode as a right idea wrong time to discuss kinda moment of which they handle the baby talk much better in later episodes.
This one and the one about Debby were the worst episodes for me. It's a shame that the quality of the writing went down after how amazing season 5 was :(
Which one was the Debby one?
I liked a lot about Season 6, like the sexual harassment episode or the final episode where they team up with their enemies. It is for the most part only a few episodes sticking out as bad, like the ones you mentioned
I don't think so
Every great show has some minor setbacks
But season 7 has some great episodes like where cheddar geta kidnapped and the last lights out one
@@misstricksandtipps which sexual harassment episode?
@@khadijaahsan2970 I imagine they're referring to season 6 ep 8 'He Said, She Said'. It was a really good episode and was actually Stephanie Beatriz's (who plays Rosa) directorial debut. Heavy subject matter for a debut but really well done.
I honestly never liked Gina’s character. I am always surprised and confused when I hear she’s great and a fan favorite?
Couldn't agree more.
Yeah seriously
I think it’s a cultural thing. Narcissists and slackers are looked down upon in collectivist cultures, like some countries in Latin America. I live in this region and I’ve met many, many people who are put off by Gina’s selfish character and generally favor Jake as an easygoing but competent professional who ultimately supports everybody. I dunno. That’s my experience.
After the first couple of seasons she’s entirely selfish and it’s all about her. She’s the only character who doesn’t get written as being in the wrong and in need of change, and she’s the one constantly sexually harassing Terry.
Ya, honestly, she feels way too off the rails compared to the other characters and yet what I find more frustrating is that no characters seem to acknowledge it; everyone just let's her do literally anything she wants and it feels like the only reason why is because the writers said so.
Worst episode(s) is the first one from Season 8. Not because of the issue itself, but because of how it is Shoehorned into the show, just for the sake of it, instead of carefully crafting it into the story.....like they used to
I agree 💯
Yes I agree, it feels so forced
right message, wrong execution imo.
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The message was "I'm ashamed to be a cop" and "there's no such thing as a good cop" and "it's not about you so shut up".
You can't write a show intentionally maligning the profession and everybody in it, but simultaneously pretend like they have absolutely zero reason to be offended at the generalization.
The message was bad too.
Correct. Turned this one off after a few minutes, wasn't even trying to be funny
The worst episode for me is one of the Halloween one's, I can't remember which one, but is the one where, for some reason, they thought it was ok to put everyone spying on Peralta's therapy sessions. I really couldn't just let this information flow away.
It was the season 7 holloween heist that kept getting delayed I think
@@Whosthisbitch26 i physically cannot watch that episode its so bad and so repetitive.
I hated that as well. But you also have to remember that during the heists, everything is off the table. The group tries desperately to win the award
Halloween heists are supposed to be betrayal and the other side of lovable characters so it’s basically testing the limits , but i agree that the season 7 Halloween heist was the worst of all the other heist ,
I agree I normally like the cutthroat heists but this went right into “yikes” territory.
I think the captain Kim episode was also pretty sour. there was no need for Jake and Holt to be so mean to a genuinely good person, who even looked up to Holt as an inspiration.
I'm seeing a lot of people bringing up Casecation as their worst episode, which I agree with, it actually made me stop watching for a while when I saw it. But I have a different reason to dislike it as well. To me it felt like it should have been flipped, a lot of Jake's development has been about understanding parenting, with Terry and Boyle's kids being examples, as well as getting over his daddy issues. I feel like he should have been the one who wanted kids while Amy should have been focusing on career stuff. To me it felt like a step back in Jake's development alongside all the uncomfortable moments in the episode
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are so right!!!! I was late to watching B99, and just began back in March or April (whenever Netflix got it). They only posted the first 4 seasons, so I bought the complete DVD series and watched it all. You are 100% correct! Jake grew WAY too much for that to have been his attitude in Casecation. Whereas, Amy may have always wanted kids, but she was speed mentored by Captain Holt, and was about to become Sergeant, so it would make way more sense for her to have reconsidered being a parent until she made captain or something like that. It was one of the worst episodes to me even though I LOVED the entire debate section with all the people quoting their Toastmasters credentials. 😁
Exactly, I would believe Jake would want kids way more than Amy. Many scenes with Amy didn’t seem like she really liked kids, and a lot of people brought up that it would be in her calendar if she actually planned on having kids. It seems more to be the writing going with the stereotype that women want kids and men don’t when I saw it. Heck, the only character in this I agreed with is Terry, because he made a great point
@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460same, I watched the first 4 on Netflix, but I instead got peacock to watch the rest by binging each season per day
Season 8 Episode 1 is the worst episode according to me. They tried to handle the topic but it just seemed forced.
Honestly, B99's biggest weakness was that there were too many things that felt forced, especially when thy tried too hard to mix comedy and drama. Like when Holt and Terry were talking about Terry being racially profiled. It got deep, uncomfortable, somber, and real, then they try to drop some awkward joke about not wanting to go out to the other room because they're avoiding that one lady at the dinner party. It just fell flat in the serious context.
@@LEFT4BASS mixing dramatic scenes and sensitive subjects into a comedy is very difficult and often comes off as awkward. That's why only fools and horses is my favourite sitcom. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you look up the scene where Del and Rodney are arguing after Grandads funeral. It shows how you can make comedy and drama work well together. The whole episode is basically a lesson on the subject
Seemed??? It was lmao
Preach!
@@generichuman2044 scrubs is another great series that balence comedy and drama.
It's not constructive to say this but I really don't like Gina as a character, she just messed with people but it was okay because in that universe she was always right and a valuable life lesson was always learned, but realistically she was just being mean or awkward, that's my opinion anyway, obviously some people love her and I won't begrudge them that but she irritates me
Agreed
Yes! How she treat Terry in the first seasons is awkward at best and sexual harrasment at worst
If you ever watcehd Suits, shes a very very annoying version of Donna in that show. They both end up being memes of their original character. Gina is my least favorite character because she feels the most not real character in the show
I'm glad someone said it. I think Chelsea Peretti nailed the character, but I never really liked the character herself. She was kind funny sometimes, but I never found anything all that likable about her.
The first watch through of the show I would have completed agreed, but after watching the show at least 4 times start to finish, I started to actually enjoy her sarcasm. I couldn't imagine the show without her, also why I like the first few seasons better too
Returning her for things like the Halloween episodes was a perfect mini return for her it makes sense in terms of the show and just her character in general. I don’t think she needed a whole episode I think they should’ve just left it at that- it would’ve been cool to see her during the seres finale since the whole episode was fan service lol (but in a good way! I loved that episode I think it was a perfect send off)
the one i didn’t love was casecation (where amy sort of pushes a baby onto jake)
I know what you’re trying to say but the way you worded it is funny
Oh god she didnt push him. She wanted a baby. He didnt. Its her right to be upset as its his. But if you dont see the same future, why stay together and resent the other partner in the process? If jake came around, thats his decision, not Amys.
This is a deal breaker to some people... 😑
She was very rude about it, didn't care at all about Jake's trauma which she knew about before the talk, and within 2 minutes said "You're either having a baby with me in a month or we're divorcing." It went from 0 to 100 immediately with 0 sympathy or thought put into it. That's the kind of comedic cruelty I would expect of Gina, not Amy.@@not-a-ghost2206
I think this episode amplified some things that were already apparent when Gina left for the first time. Every ensemble character on Brooklyn Nine-Nine had an emotional depth (even Hitchcock had loyalty to Scully), but Gina was largely a one-note narcissist.
The rest of the characters developed and matured and basically left her behind, which is why it was so jarring to see the character come back and still be basically the same caricature she was in the first episode.
I agree that the episode you’ve highlighted was one of the show’s worst, but I think it was that way due to Gina’s mere presence, not because of an unusually bad treatment of the character.
Gina did though. Her friendship with Jake was a major element in the early seasons because they'd been friends since childhood and they kinda drifted apart over time, but there's the time Jake's about to lose his apartment for example, or the time where her place gets robbed and she's scared to stay there so she keeps spending time in the precint, or even times where she's loyal to Holt, even times where she's been pretty nice to Boyle
I think it’s blatantly not true to say that Gina didn’t grow as a character. Sure she was narcissistic and disrespectful, but that’s where most of the comedy of her character comes from and b99 does a really great job at balancing comedy and drama and character development. We see Gina go from a blatantly rude office assistant with not much direction in life to a sarcastic but still caring grown woman with life goals and a family. She grew up and it didn’t sacrifice what made her funny
@@campbellsande5447 I would argue that her character doesn’t develop, but her situation does. Her two fairwell episodes show much the same character as in the first episode, just now she has a child and different job.
I hated Gina’s character so much for how terribly she treated Terry and got away with it constantly.
Every scene where she hits on Terry was viscerally uncomfortable to me, and the fact it was always played for laughs bothers me immensely. She’s a walking double standard and is undoubtedly the aspect of the show that will age the most poorly in the coming decades.
the show steadily declined from season 4 onwards in my opinion. in retrospect, jake & amy’s wedding probably should’ve been the last episode
Once it went from FOX TO NBC it decreased in value. I believe if they did two episodes after Jake and Amy's wedding it would've been the perfect ending.
I love this show and I'm sorry to say that I completely agree with you. The wedding (maybe without the last cliffhanger ) would have been a perfect ending. I would have probably have been really bummed out if they had closed it with season 5 but in retrospect I don't feel that seasons 6, 7 and 8 added anything major to the series. Sure there have been good and funny episodes but they are nothing compared to any episode of season 1.
@@alem5674 it’s one of my favourite shows ever, but the recent jokes/character behaviour feels like it’s not even the same show it used to be
I enjoyed season 6 and I LOVE season 7
I'd say season 5 was the last good season imo.
The NBC seasons felt off from the get-go. While I was happy the cast and crew had jobs to go back to, sometimes it is good for a show to end prematurely but also naturally (hot take: it sucked that Firefly was short-lived but its only season was close to perfect). I felt the same way when Scrubs was saved by ABC. Same for Community being saved by Yahoo. But I don't know if it felt different to me because I knew they were on new networks which always leads to tinkering with the creative process.
My least favourite episode was episode 1 of the new season. They obviously had to address the pandemic and all the systemic issues that became focused on, but they are litersely shoving it down your throat the whole time. Ive never heard more unnatural dialogue in media, ever. It felt like it was an obligated episode. It is a little better throughout the Rest of the season, where they have subtle tones that things have changed in world with views on police, but it’s not every sentence. Overall though, I thought the last season had a lot of pretty weak moments, and a good amount of unsatisfying payoff. For example, I’m not a fan of Jake quitting the force to be a father, I understand with his issues with his dad he wanted to be a good dad, but I would’ve liked to see each character excel in their career, since it’s based in a workplace
I totally agree with the jake part, he was the best at his job and had SO much potential to become someone that everybody in the NYPD knew and respected..i mean if it was Amy, the mother, leaving her job to raise her kid, it would have been resented and we all know that.
Jake absolutely loved his job and wouldn't have quit, he would've taken advice from charles and Terry to be a good father and still have a successful career. Last season was a mess and unwanted addition tbh
@@abigase135 man exactly, the advice from terry and charles part is so accurate
With jake loving his job the most and also being good at it, it was unsatisfying for me to see him leave it at such young age(job wise).
oh defo not. when u consider he time, place, and context at hand it was a do all or end all situation almost because they were cops. if they didnt it would probably be copaganda and if it was it would get hit on for being too woke when the favt is it was super appropriate and made perfect sense. it was a time were things like this were happening and if they brushed over it like nothing happened then it would just be obvious. i do think they couldve turned it down a bit but when you actually look at the episode from all sides, it makes sense.
S8E1 was an absolute disgrace to the rest of the show too, it did such a good job talking about real world issues and then they just flopped.
Casecation was so bad and - imo - the worst episodes. Jake and Amy not talking about whether to have kids so late in their relationship was incredibly heartbreaking to me, and how cold Amy was makes me feel like she doesn't care about him. blergh
I don't think anybody gets married without knowing if they will be having children. In more traditional societies you don't have a choice or an argument, in the more progressive ones you get to know someone intimately prior to anything.
@@MsMinoula I disagree. I just think its atypical of amy
I feel like everyone saying they didn't like casecation didn't actually watch the episode
Not to mention the celebrity status of Gina is unearned, like, okay, one million subscribers. Dude you have any idea how many self made people have one mil and aren't that much of a celebrity?
Yeh, the Quartering has 1.2 mill and he is some fat dude who makes shit videos.
Ya I don’t think the writers realised that people do not do this to celebrate hitting 1 million subscribers. Hell, most people don’t even rely on it as a job until after hitting 1 mill. This kinda celebration feels like something someone would do after hitting 6-10 million subscribers
I noticed this too like it seemed very unrealistic. Then I looked at it from the angle that Gina is quite narcissistic and could attract fans like that to an event to celebrate a small win like 1million. Or she just thinks that 1 million is amazing and blows it up like 'wow everyone loves me'
Also, seriously, how did she get famous ? At one episode she decided to leave the 99 and pursue other things, she was just a normal secretary (except she didn't do her job and instead just used her cellphone all day long), then 11 episodes later she is super rich and famous ? I think they forced too much on that episode.
I was so so thankful when Gina was off the show. In the first seasons she’s narcissistic but actually caring, and by the middle of the series she was about 95% narcissistic and only 5% caring. They made her character always right, even in facets that were not her strength (the riddle episode with the Beyoncé tickets comes to mind) and it was nauseating. I didn’t even watch the farewell episode, because it was too much of her. Only respect for Christina, her actress, but boy was I so thankful she left
Chelsea*
I agree. There was a time where she was the only thing that I disliked about the show.
You said it all, I agree with you.
This to me is the 2nd worst B99 episode, behind the episode when Amy tries to manipulate Jake into having children with her at the hospital.
That was just Amy doing Amy things tbh, she always has had a manipulative, hyper competitive side, just the first time it has come out in full force towards Jake. Could have handled it better but the scene where Jake resolved the bomb situation saves that one from being any worse than mediocre for me.
One of the most heinous things they did was have Jake do that arrest and get suspended. He went to prison wrongfully, and was traumatized by that and was much more understanding and careful when arresting because he realized they could be innocent too. Then the writers threw that in the trash.
I'm cool with calling Return of the King the worst episode, but it's not quite right to say The Box is the best episode. It's a great episode where Jake and Holt shine out, but the show isn't only centered on Jake and Holt. Personally, I think Lights Out or HalloVeen are better. But that's from the perspective of a fan who doesn't really think the show ever got too bad (the Debbie arc was weird and season 8 could've used more polish, but it was consistently funny and had pretty good commentary on a number of issues)
Agreed
Yeah i loved lights out lmao
casecation is the worst episode i think. i totally hated this one also but casecation made me so uncomfortable
NINE NINE!
You read that in Terry Crews voice didn’t you
read that in amy's, actually
My least favourite episode was "Gintars" and to this date it's the only one I haven't even finished. The reason? I'm Latvian, and all the "Nikolaj" jokes are extremely annoying to me because that is not even a Latvian name, not even close. And in "Gintars" those jokes are pushed over the top, plus Gintars himself was pretty much a "backwards country no one's ever heard of" stereotype. Yeah, that didn't sit well with me at all.
Bruh, nobody knows where Latvia is except those who live it in. Especially if you ask to the average American, stop getting to offended
@@yasininn76 jake literally gets a man deported to stop him from seeing his son
@@yasininn76 literally everyone knows where latvia is… you replied to a person from that country, thats such a weird and offensive thing to say. latvia being an unkown country on the show was an annoying theme and i hated it too, truly shows how americans dont care or know about anything that isnt in the us
@@yasininn76 you spelled uneducated wrong
@@thebeatles4252 quite literally anyone doesn't even know that Latvia exist
This is a great analysis of the episode!
SEMANTICALLY speaking though, the fact that this is the worst episode in the series does Not mean it is a bad episode per se. It simply means that all the other episodes were better than this one.
What I mean with this is that "Return of The King," albeit considerably lowering the bar, still fit somehow in the Brooklyn Nine-Nine universe; it wasn't THAT out of place. Drops in quality happen almost always and it could have been far worse. All in all, the show managed to stay pretty consistent for its whole run.
I kind of liked Gina in the the earlier seasons. There was a hint of heart behind her crazy persona. I always felt like there was a bit of lonliness to her character, considering that she was the only employee who wasnt a cop. This was especially apparent in the arc where Jake and Holt had to go into witness protection in Florida and she helped save the two of them. At that point, I thought Gina's arc was going to involve her getting bored of assitant life and deciding she can do better, entering the police academy and having the rest of the precinct help her become a cop
I liked some aspects of this over the top version of Gina, I saw it kinda as a power hungry persona that just got off on the idea of people idplizing her (as she always has). My favourite joke in the episode was the girl going "Gina look at me" and she does and the girl just starts screaming lol like that was the perfect amount of kookiness I needed in this episode
It was a bad episode to be sure, but honestly I can throw a rock at the final season and hit multiple episodes that I felt were worse. It was the worst Gina episode to be sure, but not the worst episode in the shows history (in my opinion).
8th season is so disappointing and bad handled
For sure, I would have been alright with season 8 coming out a year later for better writing
Honestly the worst for me was the episode where Jake and Amy had a huge disagreement over whether or not they wanted to have kids, and at the end of it, Jake just decides he wants to have kids. It felt like a cop-out ending, and really out of character for him based on what they had already established in the episode. It didn't feel like something he wanted, but all of a sudden he just did. Same vibe as how the Wandavision finale fixed every problem a little too neatly.
Ending really was kind of botched for casecation, they set things up but didn’t pay them off, if the episode had been a Two parter, or just had the plot line carry one directly into the next episode, where they could have had a real heart to heart, I think it would have been seen as a very good episode, even great
B99 doesn’t have a ton of bad episodes, but this is definitely low on the totem pole.
Not sure if I'd call it the WORST episode, but I'd definitely put it in the bottom 5 or 10 lol
The Box on the other hand is one of the best episodes of ANY sitcom I've ever seen! And considering it only had 2 of the main actors (with a brief appearance of Gina at the beginning), that makes it all the more impressive imo 👍
Definitely going to miss getting new seasons of that show💔😓
No way is the worst, the season 8 opener was by far worse. No humor, just name-dropping current events and focusing the whole plot on apologising for being a cop show. S8 as a whole was alright, but the opener was a disaster.
appreciate the analysis but s7 and s8 each have at least three or four worse episodes than this
season 8 is the worst season by far
I, don't even need to watch the entire video to know that it's about Gina.
Seriously, there are people that like the character... But she leaving and giving more screen time to Scully and Hitchcock was the best that could happen to the show.
hitchcock and scully are the worst
sorry hitchcock is scullys okay
Hitchcock and scully don't go around bully people and make fun of them considering they are both health hazards to themselves, they stick to their desk and do absolutely whatever they want.but when it comes to helping the squad they unknowingly turn out to be total genuises.. They have saved jakey Terry from the mob, saved their informant, yet they don't get their due credit
Any episodes that focused on Gina was terrible, I genuinely hated her..
Yes I found her so unfunny and she was so nasty but it was painted as quirky and "yaaas queen"
Yes! Can't stand her either.
She's one of the worst characters on the show.
casecation sucks so bad. when everyone agreed with amy i was actually so shocked, i thought they would understand jake’s perspective, especially when rosa just completely agreed with amy, not knowing the entire story. it’s so unlike her. it wasn’t even that jake just didn’t want kids for no reason, he made amy completely aware of his reasonings and the WORST part is when amy threatens to leave jake if he doesn’t want kids. she said it like it was no big deal and went so far as to do a whole debate with their boss about it. i usually kind of like amy, but in that episode she really needed to understand jakes point of view. also, amy just fully expected jake to be totally on board with having kids when she didn’t even make the effort of talking about it before their marriage and brought it up completely out of the blue. but the rest of the episode where jake convinces pam not to let off the bomb was really good, i actually enjoyed the suspense in thrill in that part of the episode. but overall the episode was super stressful and i js didn’t like it at all.
Ngl I kind of saw that coming, we see so much of the good side of Amy, but she is very adamant about some things. For me though, it was more of a cultural thing, speaking as a Cuban, we as a people are very stubborn, and in disagreement we tend to get VERY nasty. With that in mind you can see it coming.
Irony is that then she had a terrible time getting pregnant and suddenly Jake’s suggestion of “lets take a break and think about what we want to do” wasn’t so awful when she realised she couldn’t control it
@@GiselleKlaraI’m also not a big fan that when they couldn’t have kids, they kinda brushed through the conversation of other options, like adoption, by having the talk but it not really meaning much to say there’s other ways they can have kids. I’m sorry, I had to compare it to friends when I saw that scene when it felt like they were about to give up after the frustration of casecation. Even weirder was when Amy was telling Jake he should decide fast only for her to say they’ll wait awhile before trying to
I remembered not laughing as much watching this episode. Most of the time I kept asking “what are you doing, Gina?”
This episode was bad, but it wasn't as bad as "the good ones", "casecation" and "he said she said" are much worse.
The “me too” episode felt forced and preachy plus i thought they were going to do a and bait and switch but no
Casecation had a pretty bad show for Amy’s character and The Good Ones had a tone that was a bit too dark for a comedy, but what’s your issue with He Said She Said? As far as a 22-minute episode goes, I think it handled the subject matter well. It provided a good look into many different aspects of the subject matter and a compelling plot and conflict, while also keeping the tone light enough and still managing to have room for a fun B-plot about Holt and the Disco Strangler.
It’s not perfect, but it was still a pretty damn good episode.
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ jake goes and complains about the "oppressive patriarchy" and its preachy
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ the biggest problem for me was the false things said, but also making jake the bad guy, and ignoring certaon characters backstorys. Tackling each in order 1. Amy says a couple different times in different ways "every single women i know has gone through this" is an absolutely ridiculous claim because "this" was actual sexual assault from a coworker. 2. Amy constantly made jake seem like he was in the wrong for even considering other actions, and jake acted like, even though hes never done anythong like this, he qas still resp9nsible for it happening. 3. Hitchcock constantly harasses women, and gina was constanrly harassing(and assaulting) terry. So for them to not even touch those issues, but still act like its characters like jake that are the problem, it becomes preachy, and makes the viewer(at least the male ones from the ones i talked to) feel like theyre being scolded for something theyve never done or condoned
@@camerannicephore5262 Jake was never showed as the bad guy in He said she said. What are you talking about?
Only Gina moment I liked was when she got hit by that bus
i’m not even kidding, every send off clip you showed other than the office, are all of my favorite shows. community, shameless, that 70s show, superstore, sometimes two and a half men, parks and rec, and this video of b-99. that’s crazy. you nailed it. and almost all of those shows were great without them. obviously and sadly not the same but still good none the less.
Season 8 completely destroyed my enjoyment with the entire show. I cant look at this the same again.
I think because Gina was a very funny character most people ignore how narcissistic and downright cruel she was at times. I liked the episode because it made you reflect on all the little "quirks" she displayed and how she treats people. I don't think she was that far removed from the original Gina but it was a somewhat reasonable portrayal of how quick and excessive fame can alter a personality and enhance these negative traits, specially without the 99, there weren't any characters left to ground her in reality.
Yes I think that's really accurate
for me the worst one is when Debbie gets crazy and into drugs and helps Rosa and Jake captive
I'd still much rather watch this episode over S8 ep1 "The Good Ones". Even though it's not the best episode, nothing can be worse than that.
The people who are saying “She’s a bit of a bitch but that’s ok bc she was always like that” didn’t get Gina’s characterization, like, at all. She’s a woman who has grandiose dreams and uses self-obsession and cynicism as a shield (which she admits to, so this is not an overintellectualization). Her self-obsession doesn’t necessarily mean she’s heartless or a “bitch”. She helps people by challenging them to up their game, she can be incredibly kind and sweet, she’s loyal (at least she was before NBC writers fucked her character arc) and she’s funny as hell. I’ve been saying the show has been mediocre at best since NBC took over and that’s mainly because there’s no nuance to the characters anymore. Ruining Gina’s characterization was the biggest mistake ever because she’s a great example of a character having textbook negative qualities but being so loved by the fans, and instead of expanding on this contrast they wrote her off only to bring her back so they can make her into a 2000s high school movie villain. (Also agree with the comments about Casecation - worst ep ever)
I actually liked this episode. Was Gina an absolute bitch? Yes, but that's who she always was. Add fame and money to her narcissism and this was a completly belivable and predictable result. And at the end of the ep, she agreed to see Jake more. Imo it perfectly fit with her character (which, unpopular opinion, I actually like. She's a terrible person, but she's not real, she's just a character on a TV show, so I find her funny). Anyway, Ig another reason why I didn't hate it as much as you is that I didn't see this as a farewell episode at all. It was just the return of a character that had already left. I do think maybe it being in s7 would've fit better though.
Same I really like Gina! I mean she is a bad person, but she isn’t real. I found her funny.
Same I didn't see it as a farewell
It was absolutely the episode where Amy strong arms Jake into having a baby. Gina was the worst character, but she wasn't the centre of the worst episode.
Brooklyn 99>My overdue homework XD
I only watched this episode once, because I really didn't like It. But I remember that what made me the most uncorfortable was how It reminded me of how Jake's dynamyc with his father was at the beggining of the show. Always making up excuses for him, even blaming himself for his father letting him down. Jake hás a lot of issues as consequence of his father's bad parenting, and Gina, who knew him since ever, whom certainly must know that, was acting the same way, while Jake, that went trough the process of accepting his father was wrong and stopping excusing him, was falling into the same pattern again.
Bishop's send off is what made me realize NCIS had phased into going on for too long. I loved her up until then.. They essentially ruined her character with just one episode, while neglecting the relationships she'd made with the other agents. Truly disappointing
Did seem to come out of nowhere. Nothing you can really do if the character's actor decides to leave but it doesn't mean you lazily manufacture a reason they leave!
Yeah, they didn't do Bishop's send off very well. I think they set up these relationships especially between her and Nick and then the actor decides to leave and that probably threw them off a bit and the definitely didn't seem to know what to do because they have lost the one female on the team again. Though I think the episodes after the actor who plays Nick did a good job showing how her leaving affected him. Then shortly after Gibbs left which i think they actually had been planning on him leaving for a while now, but I personally think they did a good job with Gibbs' send off. While I love Gibbs, his character was getting old in more ways than one way especially with the climate around cops right now and how Gibbs' as a character would often break the rules to catch the criminal and get away with it. Which if they want to keep a show like NCIS, they can't perpetuate that behavior when it is being so heavily criticized in real life. Besides, I actually have enjoyed the guy they replaced him with. He brings something new and fresh to the NCIS boss character and dynamic with the other characters. And as I said Gibbs was getting old. The storylines surrounding him were becoming same old, same old thing over and over with little variations. And while I love the characters especially Gibbs, the show was getting a bit boring and I had stopped consistently watching for years now. The new characters mixed with the characters we have known for years give me hope that NCIS can feel a bit more fresh and interesting again.
Gina was by far my least favorite character. She just seems so out of place all the time. And I feel like she most of time did nothing for the story and was just there to be funny even though she was not funny at all, more annoying. And I hated that she was always mean to Amy for no reason. I did not miss her at all wen she left.
This comes to a close second.. The worst one is the one where jake is bullied into agreeing to have kids..
Shout-out to that one time Holt immiddiately suspended Jake, actually thinking that he'd intentionally set off a device that destroyed evidence after Dillman suggested it.
It was one thing to think that it was a prank gone wrong, but it was quite another to so coldly dismiss him out of hand and think that he'd do something like that over his desire to be put on the special task force - in fact, just in general, the way he went about revealing that information during the episode seemed... Really dam cold.
I thought that the defining characteristics of Holt where that underneath his cold demeanor he genuinely cared about and understood his colleagues, so I really can't imagine that he wouldn't have sat Jake down and talked him through his decision, but instead he basically spends the whole episode dismissing and putting him down, needlessly letting Jake hope for the position when he's already made up his mind for someone else before tactlessly revealing it in front of everyone, and it just comes off as mean spirited and honestly rather mean.
It's almost as if his whole relationship with Jake just got reset for the episode, but only from Holt's end. There seemed to be no trust or care from Holt down to Jake, as if it where an episode written for the beginning of their relationship, not several seasons down the line where they've both been through literal life and death situations together.
There wasn't even an apology from what I remember at the end. Jake supported Charles and that was nice, but for an episode where Holt spent the entire time dismissing one of his best detectives and most trusted colleagues out of hand, all we get at the end is him... Not giving any sort of apology and refusing to acknowledge him again for a joke.
The one where Jake gets a man deported is an absolute shocker as well tbf
For me, keep in mind this is the only episode of season 8 I've seen so far, the worst is the first episode of season 8. Nearly everything it tried to do, it failed at miserably or shouldn't have tried, being the show it is, and the show and characters barely seemed like themselves. In general it made me kinda sick to my stomach.
Gina was always the character in this episode.. she was amplified, which was the point.
that's because you probably didn't see jake and amy "deciding" they're going to have children.
amy was absolutely disgusting in that episode
Yeah Amy should NOT have forced him into having children and also putting him in a situation where he has to go through a frickin debate just for her to be selfish and say that she would break up with him if he didn’t want to is a really horrific thing to do
CHARACTERS BEING MALICIOUS DOESNT MAKE AN EPISODE BAD.
What makes a bad episode is if it is unfunny, poorly written, or simply of poor quality all around. In casecation, Amy doesn’t really act out of character (we know she is incredibly competitive) the one thing is that kids never coming up before casecation is frankly insane, I mean, the show completely forgot “moo moo” happened, I think it’s obvious that children would have come up between the two in the aftermath of that all. I’m pretty sure there are even a few other moments where Peralta thinks about fatherhood in a positive light before s6 than just that. For me, casecation is just an all round “kinda bad but really just mediocre” episode.
The worse episode was the first episode of the final season
that was probably one of their better episodes being able to tackle that topic that well
@@nordaj_ regardless of whether or not you think the episode handled its theme well. Handling a theme well doesnt equal a good episode of TV, It can really help, but its more of a baseline rather than something that should be praised, and even if it is done well it can be boring and out of place.
@@mrpizzacat8273 still was good tho
@@nordaj_
It was forced, unnecessary, and obnoxious. Nobody is putting on a cop comedy to see them apologize for being a cop comedy.
I thought it made sense. Like, it's a miracle that someone like Rosa, who's fiercely independent, and has trouble with establishment and institutions in general, who's ex-boyfriend is a coke addicted private detective, would leave the police to become a private detective. The baseline was already there, she just needed a proper reason to resign.
I like how the episode shows that when someone leaves a show they don’t die, and a lot of the time people don’t change some people sour in a very poor way especially when gaining fame, it’s not great for a story standpoint but it’s realistic
I watched the first episode of the 8th season and thought it was so bad that I lost interest in watching the 8th season at all. I'm not surprised it was their last. Way too concerned with trying to appease our world, rather than living in their own.
I have a vague recollection of giving s08e02 a shot, but don't remember much about it.
I somehow even bothered finishing the first episode of ss8. But I definitely didn't bother with the rest.
If you don’t want to watch the rest of s8, please just watch the last episode because it’s almost perfect
I think I understand where you're coming from in this video. I think that, whenever you think the worst episode of the show is, this is a decent contender either way.
But, I do disagree with the characterization of Gina, and your characterization of the writers characterization of Gina, if that makes any sense.
Gina was always a really terrible person. From her constant disrespect of her superiors, and so-called friends, repeated assaults and weird behavior and harassment, and particularly sexual harassment towards Terry, in many episodes, though as time went on it got a little less prominent, it was still very troubling.
You suggest that the writers extremely exaggerated Gina's character flaws in this episode, but honestly, it seems pretty on brand. I think the fact is, we finally got a close and extended look at Gina in this episode, and it just shows much better in that light, that she really is and always has been a pretty awful person.
I was under the impression that we were supposed to dislike her, that she was supposed to be an unlikable character, and in that context, I enjoyed the character work and writing. But I hear from a lot of fans of the show that they like her, and were disappointed when she behaved an unlikeable manner, which confused me xD.
Gina being the face of the worst episode, imagine my shock
6:43 bruh apathy is such a common starting point for characters that then develop into caring about something a la April Ludgate
The worst episode of B99 is He Said, She Said and it's not close. Preachy, atonal, has an impractical plot, and gives Amy a ridiculous out-of-character scene in order to deliver THE MESSAGE™.
Absolutely agree
YES THIS
1 THE IDEA THAT AMY WASNT PROMOTED PURLEY BY MERIT IS LAUGHABLE
2 WHY IS JAKE (THE MAN WHO WENT TO PRISION BECAUSE HE WAS FRAMED, AND BECAME LESS WILLING TO ARREST BECAUSE OF THAT) SO DOWN WITH JUMPING STRAIGHT TO A CONCLUSION.
Honestly I never really enjoyed Gina anyway.
I agree, she was great when she seemed like an actual human being, even if a bit exaggerated.
Gina is the worst 99 character and it's not close. Brings every scene down.
The worst episode is actually the one where Amy and Jake discuss kids. Or any episode in season 7
if im being honest i hated the entire 8th season. Just didn't have the comedic genuis feeling that the other seasons had. I know they had to rush it due to covid but I would've waited for us to acc get good episodes
i agree, season 8 was a shit show tbh, the ending where Jake quits is so out of character and i feel like neither of them needed to quit their jobs to raise mac.
My most hated video was the last judy and jake episode it undermined everything about their unique friendship like are you guys just realizing ur on opposite sides of the fence?
and it's supposed to be heartwarming, but a major car thief was just set free by a cop because they were friends??? hes immediately going to go commit more crimes; this is a bad ending lol
I didn’t mind this episode, it didn’t feel like she was out of character at all, to me the worst episode was Jimmy Jabs 2. It was comedically ridiculous and they were constantly lowering the bar on how much they reached for comedy, going so far low as a right out penis joke without any other context, And felt completely unoriginal and undoing all character development.
Personally I think the worst episode of the show is the season 8 premiere
season 8 as a whole was a disappointment tbh, i was really hoping for a better ending for jake maybe a promotion to work in the fbi where he would be able to work more flexible hours? i'm glad they address racism and police brutality but i also think they could have gone about it better, also for a comedy i just didnt find the last few season any where near as funny as the earlier seasons, the later episodes are just really cringey as they started to move away from the more dry humour.
For me the worst episode is when Terry's idol appears.
I know it only appeared 2 times, but those two episodes were very boring😴
That book guy? Those episodes had such potential, but they always seem disappointing.
The worst episode for me was the one where Amy set up a fake therapy for Jake.
I know I’m two years late
But…
Most of these comments are saying how “Casecation” was the worst episode.
I completely agree, but, in my opinion, the only thing that ruined it was the debate. The writers should’ve made Amy and Jake talk about it, and try not to make it funny (which it wasn’t.) They should’ve also let the other characters just…let Jake make his own decision😐
The worst for me was S08EP01 Where they forced down agenda into a comedy show..
I disagree. This episode depicts the true Gina. A Gina without anyone telling her that she is out of line. A Gina without the 99. An episode displaying all of her toxic traits, which fans have turned a blind eye to for years.
Casecation and the Halloween heist where Amy hired someone to pretend to be a mental health professional so she could spy on Jake's heist plans, while he did therapy. Unorthodox, disrespectful, invasion of privacy, violation of trust. I was absolutely disgusted