Math Hoffa on the History of His Beef with Taxstone, His Connection to Banga (Part 20)
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
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In an intense and personal interview between Vlad and Math Hoffa, they dive deep into the ramifications of the controversial Taxstone incident. Hoffa reveals a personal connection to the incident, as his daughter's godmother, who was the victim's girlfriend at the time, was deeply affected. Hoffa gets passionately candid about his long dispute with Tax, calling him a professional antagonist who consistently provoked others, including Hoffa himself, for years. He criticizes Tax's choice to live a life of confrontation and the negative consequences that followed. Their differing views provoke a broader conversation about the ways public commenting and antagonizing can escalate situations, with a focus on the line between sharing an opinion and outrightly provoking others.
Math was speaking facts
How?
He didn’t even answer the question lol
No he wasn’t 😂😂
That’s why he had to chop up math’s responses
Math spoke nothing but FACTS! Taxstone got what he deserves. He threw his life away being a bully. FlyTy QGTM
LOL math Hoffa is talking about being a bully
He throw his life away because he refused to be bullied, he gave his opinion for a living ain’t nothing wrong w that
How the FUCK do you get bullied by someone online? How does a street rapper get BULLIED by someone clowning him on a podcast.? And I don't know one person who isn't going to pull out a gun with TWO people coming at them.
@@pagolamath never bullied a man he never met before. Tax was an internet gangster and the only reason Vlad goes hard for him is because Tax pressed Joe budden on camera and Vlad hates JB he feels that JB was a threat to his brand at some point.
@@nattturnerstop it lol
Somebody finally put Vlad in his place on Tax
Word. Notice how the interview had hella things chopped out of it.
@@1Deep43VAI said the same thing bro😂. Vlad had to edit this shit cause Math was probably stating facts that Vlad couldn’t dispute.
Math just mad he know he can't run up on Tax cause he know 😂😂😂
@@mmbeashe does that a lot if you peep it.
@brickflipper5273 math out here living his best life while tax gotta get told when to go to shower around other naked niggas🤣🤣🤣 goofy
I agree with Math on this one. Karma took care of Taxstone and the energy he put out came right back to him.
Nah Math a hater who interviewed a snitch and let him get his lies off. Period. Math done in the streets. He a girl.
@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs Are you Taxstone burner account?
@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegsIf Math a hater than what is Tax Tweeting Troy Ave over 1000 times make him along with writing a letter to the judge about crimes BSB might of committed 😂
@@nbadecali1927 WHY CANT HE TWEET ABOUT TROY? YOU SENT UR MAN TO PUT HANDS ON SOMEONE AND GOT SMOKED
@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegsBeing done with the street to improve his life makes him a girl? I guess maturity doesn't hit everyone. 😂😂
Let’s be honest, if Dame ran up on Vlad, he’d just call for his security
He wouldn’t have to call, they’re always behind him. He don’t leave the house without them.
Vlad think he somebody mfs need to be worried about 😂.
@@williamcolemanll8093bruh that shyt is so irritating
@@williamcolemanll8093 😂
That’s literally what they’re hired for.
Math is 100 on this
Nah he a female for this. Acting like a hurt bae. Tax can only blame himself for being inside, but Troy was pushing the issue and Math is a clown for choosing a snitches side
@@NostalgiaVomitBootlegsyou bugging if anything they both was pushing the issue. Tax ain’t no innocent bystander so he got what he got.
Did Math just hit an eyeball bar? Once a battle rapper...always a battle rapper..
He def did 😂😂😂 i thought i only peeped that 😂😂😂 “ you’d thought he see straight “ 😂😂😂😂
Yep and vlad tried to cop block that bar on his homie tax real quick.
an eyball triple entandre during an interview LMAO , that battle rap shit is his nature
I don’t even think he realized he dropped a bar lol
Yep he's still so one-sighted.
Lol Vlad really think Tax his friend.
Wow, he paints a clear picture of how taxstone operated.
Let’s be Honest As Entertaining and Funny Tax was Tax was a HATER if Tweeting Troy Ave over 1,000 times doesn’t scream Hater and Bum then I don’t know what is not to mention he WROTE A LETTER TO THE JUDGE HE IS A SNITCH but some of you Tax Fans won’t call him a snitch and just give him the Gunna Treatment and let’s not forget He brought a gun to a venue in NYC which is a GUN FREE ZONE end of the day Tax has NOBODY to blame but himself for his downfall.
He wasn’t just a hater he was a male rap groupie
Both of ya spoke the truth no liez
Are people actually considered Tax fans??
Troy ave was a fraud n he got his man smoked lol
There's nothing Vlad could say that would make me like Taxstone. He got what he deserved.
And the other person got what they deserved 🤷🏿♂️
Vlad only goes hard for Tax because Tax pressed Joe Budden, JB and Vlad been beefing for a decade+ .
@@DrBoofMar sad that boys can’t take an ass whoppin now… Tax must’ve never watched Friday RIP Pops
@@TheRealMichaelP tax did what he had to do to get out the jam 🤷🏿♂️
@@DrBoofMar you make it seem like dude was in a life or death situation he got punched in the face 😂😂😂😂
Tax was 1st and goal on the 1 yard line with the bag and he fumbled BIG TIME!
He dropped the ball before he ran in the end zone
Math told the truth ❤
Civilian Vladimir: idk what’s gonna happen when I see dame.
911 operator: 911 what is your emergency?
Gonna call some of his "crip" homies.
How vlad can support tax is crazy he brpught all that shit on himself
He would have to admit that his judgement was wrong.
Damn that’s a fact when he said the reason he was carrying a gun was because he was worried about the repercussions of what he’s saying online. Think about that. You just gotta call a spade a spade sometimes. A lot of people that speak on Tax say that he was just a hater. Even TK who was cool with him.
Finally somebody says the real to vlad about taxstone! Was gettin sick of vlad acting like tax was an innocent bystander in all this
And THAT’s why Lord Jamar was paramount to Vladtv. Vlad needs a counterpoint. One that doesn’t let him run off the rails. People like Math and Lord Jamar do that. Otherwise, he be pushing the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.
Vlad sending Dame lowkey threats 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂You heard him bro Vlad think because he got one black friend he Gangsta now but Rickross beat him
THANK YOU MATH FOR SPEAKING THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT THIS TAXSTONE SITUATION!!! HE BROUGHT THAT ON HIMSELF BEING A BULLY! IF HE WASNT THERE WITH THAT GUN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FIGHT AND THATS IT! SALUTE MATH💯💯💯
He felt his life was in danger wtf?
@@nattturnerhe felt that way because of his own antagonistic behavior that’s the whole issue
@@nattturner If he felt his life was in danger, why go up there at all? Why go somewhere where you know you have enemies? Why not bring your homies with you instead of a gun? Why not bring security? Why not pay someone to hold the gun?
There’s nothing you can say that will answer all these questions, logically. You don’t seek out danger and then say, “but I was in danger”
LOL, Vlad be reaching sometimes.
Reaching for people he’s cool with, but if he doesn’t like you he’ll do you dirty (Tory Lanez)
For the stars b
"See" things another way😂🤣😭 I see what you did there Math
Math speaking facts
I agree with Math 💯beefing with Dame is not the same..it will never lead to gunfire.Taxtone wished a lot of bad energy towards himself and like they say “Becareful of what you ask for”
I'd rather be the one still living than to be dead. So he did what he was supposed to do regardless of the outcome.
So you just shouldn’t state your opinions on certain things, fuck that this is America Tax had the right to talk his shit, he might be in jail but he not dead
@@nattturnerthat’s how niggas get smacked and I ain’t talking about with ya hand.
GEEEEEEEEZUSS !! "F"eeeeing Vlad asks Math to explain the beef ,. Math starts , & Vlad is SOooooo in love with himself & his voice he can't let ANYBODY get their point/view/stance out .
Math is talking about Flakko who did an excellent breakdown of how and why Taxstone ended up in prison
No he is not..He is talking about the Panda Chop video.. It is very well done
@@neverscared7 No sir. He's definitely speaking about that Taxstone breakdown done by Flakko
Not Vlad trying to bring up the Dame situation like he’s really on that time. Low budget Nic Cage better sit down somewhere before he starts pointing out people and suing like he did to Rick Ross 😂
peep how math is wearing Rick Ross Label logo hat.. MMG
Sad how people will defend what they know is wrong because they like them.
LONG before Taxstone was known he was on twitter acting like this. I mean regular hiphop debates end with him disrespecting people. Search his name and look at them early tweets from like 2011, 2012. This kind of situation was bound to happen
Vlad you do know you have a video of Tax admitting he has been bullying Troy Ave both online and offline. Typically if someone is calling themselves a bully in the situation you would be a fool to claim the other man instigated it.
FACTS!
Plain and simple taxstone has a habit of bullying people and playing with the cobra. Then he gets bit and gets in a lot of trouble having to face the consequences as a result of his actions I agree tough choices have tough consequences
Math calling someone a bully is crazy
True… but he’s not wrong
Math speaking 💯
Taxtone was a hater
I’m a fan of taxstone but tax knew he needed that gun
Tax lost an eye and his freedom because he wanted to be a bully. He deserves to be where he is.
Vladimir reminds me of Sean Penn's character on Carlito's Way
Math thanks for this one
Vlad quick to say if Tory didn't have the gun but never mention if Tax didn't bring his gun
Tax was in the wrong Vlad is being biased.
HOW WAS HE IN THE WRONG? PEOPLE TALK SHIT ONLINE EVERYDAY BUT YOU WANT TO PUT HANDS ON SOMEONE AND NOT GET A REACTIION? NEGRO PLEASE
@@bighuncho5587He snuck a firearm into a venue where an artist he was threatening was performing
Thanks Math. Somebody needed to tell Vlad
I never even knew Tax had a fake eye lol
He told the story of how he use to harass this kid. Grab the dudes ass and his girls ass , spit on him. Then got shot for it.
@@petej7002 Damn,word? If that’s true,Tax deserved it in my opinion
I don’t think it was fake I think he was just blind in it. He said the bullet went through the side of his face, and the gunpowder burnt his retina.
All you have to do is ask one question about this situation. Who brought the illegal gun into the venue? Whoever brought gun is responsible for the entire situation...
Facts
So if me and my friends try to jump you and you shoot me and kill my friend that means you are wrong. What type of single mama logic is that
@@shinew1142 that is not this situation at all. Taxstone intentionally came to a venue where he knew Troy Ave would be performing (no reason for Taxstone to be there, seems premeditated). Obtained an illegal gun (because he's a convicted felon and not allowed to have one in the first place) and snuck it into the venue for a person he had been instigating an issue with. You and your friends (which means multiple, not the one other person with Troy), who I don't know at all and have had no prior encounters with, randomly attack me and I pull out a gun (which I have a CCW license because I'm a responsible and law abiding citizen) to defend myself is completely different...
@brandoni241 your comment is ridiculous. Taxstone had every right to be there he's in the industry too. He has friends that were there. So was taxstone supposed to avoid anywhere Troy Ave was gonna be. Then you would be saying he a punk. He can't win.
@@shinew1142 well now he's in jail for 35 years, so who won? Was it worth it?
Math funny "Make him Seeeee things another way" entendre 😂😂
“Who knows what will happen if I see Dame..!?” What!?! Glad sounds crazy in this clip yo! Tax was not your friend, and it WAS HIS FAULT! 😂
Math is 100% right. However, Tax said on Vlads platform that he's not with someone walking up to him with dudes, and he doesn't have protection. He did exactly what he said he'd do. Regardless of what he said, you don't walk up to someone aggressively with other dudes. There's rules to the game. Sadly, he lost everything, and someone lost their life.
Troy was on the bill, he was supposed to perform. Taxstone didn't have to be there, with a gun inside the gun. He was stalking Troy ave for over a year, and basically followed him to work. Taxstone is a bully and a show learner. He blew that opportunity all by himself.
Like Tax didn’t ACTIVELY go out of his way to be there. With a gun at that.
Facts.
Tax is solid and backs up his words while Troy is a studio gangtser.
@@1Deep43VAit wasnt his gun, he took the gun away from the shooter
@@khairt1731 …. Troy took the gun away, NOT Taxstone.
You don’t even know what went down by the sounds of it.
Vlad thought he was gone pass the equation 🤣
Math speaking facts taxstone started that shit with Troy
Sooooo what Troy didn't have to approach him
Rappers wanna use violence to quiet critics and Tax wasnt having it, the only mistake he made was the gun
Math is talking about flakko from no jumper
Someone 'picking' at you verbally doesn't give you and your man the right to run down and put hands on him in a two on one attack. Getting 'picked' at is the price of being a public figure. In these 50 states of the union people have freedom of speech.... and, unfortunately sometimes, that means the freedom of 'pick' at a public figure. Now the public figure also has freedom of speech as well which means you can choose to respond verbally or to ignore. It DOESN'T mean the right to physically assault a man because of what he said and then turn around and cry when he pull out the equalizer and booms you and lays your man down for the count. When you initiate force as the aggressor, you can't dictate how the other man responds to it. Young Lito was telling the TRUTH when Star interviewed him years ago. This is why Troy Ave started whining about how 'streets is a myth'. That fool Ave really had mafia boss delusions of himself and felt that since he was the money, the rest of his entourage should be willing to fall on their swords and volunteer themselves up to be crash dummies for him when he went around looking for trouble.
Vlad has no objectivity . He is ur friend but tax was wrong dude. Tf
Math talking that truth
Math is 100%. I have seen the tweets and the breakdowns of the Troy Ave beef, Taxstone was the ultimate antagonist.😂😂 PLENTY videos, admitting he was bullying Troy Ave, and basically being a hater…. It’s not even the fact he gave me an opinion do with repeatedly antagonizing people back to back until he got a reaction
Everyday for 3 years straight…😂😂😂 made me drop my blunt
Without Tax there would be no Math.
1:03 best way to respond to a person you don’t rock with.
Can't get caught out here slipping I BE TALKING SH!T😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
my eyes roll to the back of my head when I head Vlad say "Taxstone is my friend"
The tax stone trial showed for every one time Troy Ave responded Tax literally had like twenty tweets or posts about Tax. That shit look crazy when you see in a courtroom laid out on this date xyz .
Math low-key spit bars on tax, vlad tried to talk over him regarding the point math made *SEEING 👁️ things another way*
Math reminds me of my pops. His energy is very inviting if you’re cool.
3:37 The rapper in him just doesn’t turn off 😂😂😂😂.
It's crazy how sensitive these fatherless men are....Ain't shxt another man can say to get under my skin...but I had a father to teach me that..."don't let anyone see you sweat. Don't give anyone that power over you."
Oddly enough it was hard for him to understand why the Dizaster thing happened when I completely agree with his assessment with Taxstone.
People liked tax cause he was funny and said some shit that was kinda true. But dude's energy was off. Anybody who peeped game knew Taxstone was gonna have issues
They both have skin in the game. Tax went there with the knocks and Troy sicked his boy on a real one and got him killed. There are no winners nor are there anyone who were right in that situation.
At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter whose “fault” it was because everyone involved is a moron. These are grown men in their 30s who crashed out over internet trolling.
The whole situation is disgusting and embarrassing. How can we expect the 15/16 year old drill rappers to do any better when this what grown men with kids are doing on social media?
Math kept it a buck on this one
edit: also crazy that Glad ain’t know Math & Tax had issues. If you gonna be vouching for people who stay in conflict, it might behoove you to know what they into before you go speaking on their behalf, your “man” or not
Honestly don't take what vlad says to be 100 percent accurate. He was close to tax and he definitely knew about it. But it makes it more interesting if math explains it all again. Journalism 101
Tax was bullying the fake bullies and that’s why they’re happy he’s gone. Exposing all of them
Yeah… that guy he bullied for so long, even in front of his Moms… the same one that shot his eye out… he was a bully too huh?
The reality is, he was a bully. Period.
Edit: Even if he was only bullying “fake bullies”… look where it got him. 35 years. And a “fake bully” almost blew his shit back.
Facts, real One.
@@1Deep43VA fake bully told a whole lie on the stand. They jumped him and be acting like he fought Tax 1 on 1. And they all went to the hospital, not Tax.
Sorry Tax you brought this upon yourself, real nukka mentality got you in there until you a senior citizen smh
Vlad said he didn’t want to put tax interview cause of his trial but another rapper can have court tomorrow and wanna ask em bout the case is craZzzzy
Finally people are starting too see how much of a menace Tax was. He fooled everybody with being so relatable on camera that people start justifying his poor actions
Seems like Math was tryna clear up that eyeball bar😂
Math and Budden speak facts about Tax
Math is spitting fax.
Fax? People still use those?
“Come on Bro” 😂
Tax is my friend - VLADMIR
Yo they edited mad shit out towards the end, niggas was TALKING THAT SHIT lol
“Taxstone is my man” I wonder if Vlad knows Tax mom name😂
Thanks Math! Well said
Hahaha Vlad had to edit tf outta that.. he hate losin 😂😂 He been tryn to ride that TAXi heavy lol
Tax and vlad are "friends"
Taxstone and Mysonne were hired goons by Vlad
what was cut out tho?
When Hoffa break it down like that I agree with him
I’m glad in a way, but damn… all the pieces were right there. But I’m still glad people not believing this whitewashing of what really happened.
Nothing to break down, it's common sense lol.
Unstoppable force (Troy and his goons) meets an immovable object (Tax strapped).
I can't believe vlad just said who knows what's going to happen if I see Dame lol
Tax was the biggest male rap groupie
Vlad vs Dame line it up! I would pay to see it.
Vlad said he’ll crash out if he see dame😂😂
Vlad know damn well he's gonna put that Tax interview out.
Why u cut out so much of the convo?
Math Hoffa speaking facts
I have no idea how Vlad could befriend someone like taxstone. Cap. Definition is he just dislikes same people Tax does.
I think it was the DVD Era channel that broke down Math and Taxstone's beef.
Salute to my brother Math 🙏🏾 💯
Why he edit the video? Show the whole thing Vlad. Be transparent.
Vlad's opinion's are so bad for Hip Hip. He's definitely a guest whose overstayed his welcome.
Math speaking facts. But only one side sees this POV. And Vlad is CAP
He said he only see one way 🤣🤣🤣
Didn’t Troy say that when he saw Tax in the room, he told Banga to “handle ya business” with Tax?
Tax went Sumwere wit a gun. He was looking for a problem, and now he’s got a Big One… Sumbody explain to me Vlads pushback plz, cuz wats the debate about lol🤷🏽♀️