It’s funny you should mention that. I got up early this morning so I could watch the new vids from Concrete Pumping Service, Flying Wheels, and Ratarossa. I thought that exact same thing to myself, cartoons for middle-aged men!!!
Same here, I learn something new literally every day. I’m a firm believer that the key to maximizing our potential as operators is to never stop learning, especially since our industry is in a constant state of evolution. Appreciate you watching and commenting 🙏🙏🙏
That transition looks like the same thing going into the turret of a 42/46/47. Seeing as i don't get many vacation days on smaller trucks, i would never have thought of that. Thats an OG move brother, no B.S
Thanks Greg. Yes, it is the same part # used for previous generation 42-47 Putz machines. It’s amazing how much of different this little “tweak” makes. At least once a month we get a scenario in which having this bit of additional clearance makes all the difference.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 I can only imagine lol considering how often i get the trucks i run in tight spots, the more versatile 30/40 class machines seem to always be in a pinch. Ingenuity and skills coming to the front ty lol
You could at least tell me to up my tire shine game or something 😂😂😂 Thanks brother. Looking forward to seeing that new backend setup of yours in an upcoming video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I wish I had a ball stop on our 36Z to suck 2 balls back when cleaning. I find using the hard ball leaves more cream than the soft so I always suck it back nice and slow. I should definitely take a look at my deck pipes. As always love the content. 💪🏾
Problem I find with the hard ball is that even with the volume turned right down slow, the ball still hangs up a few strokes and then jumps back a couple of pipes/elbows at a time. I find it next to impossible to pull back a hard pull slow and controlled. We do hard ball first round then follow it up with water and a soft ball on the second round. There’s a story to this “skiff” of buildup, and it involves a bridge deck mix. 😁😁😁
@@richardspence2005 I can confirm that on a Putz style backend, the water in between the first and second sponges will flush the first sponge into the S-tube/hopper. I have a buddy with a Schwing M-rock hopper which doesn’t do the same as the Putz.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 I put the hardball in my elbow, then i clamp my reducer back on, and cover the 4" side w my hand. I use my hand to keep a constant vacuum in the pipeline, allowing a little more air in as the ball slows, cutting air off when it speeds up. I've found it to work phenomenally. If you're hanging a big hose, use your chest. Get the ball started in the discharge side of the hose, then shove the discharge side against your peck, and tuck a thumb in between. It's the same concept as using the 5-4 reducer and your hand.. Maybe I'll grab a gopro on black friday so i can make a little tutorial..
Where can one purchase and aj’s concrete pumping t-shirt or sweatshirt. I’d love to send you some of my union laborers local gear like a shirt and sweatshirt. Im from Massachusetts, been watching for a while and love your videos ❤🤘🏻😎
In the new year I’m going to work on something in terms of “merch”. E gee moths ago I had a pile of decals printed up and sent them out to people. It wound up being a ton of work. If demand were great enough. I’d like to get setup with a 3rd party which could take care of shipping and inventory. Shoot me an email at Scottjuly79@hotmail.com 😁
just a tip: when servicing turret pipe add 1-2 extra gasket on pipe before reconnecting ....let gaskets be ready for next leak....also try use marine grease when doing swivels.....Canadian tire has marine grease and use small brush, also good for daily auger gease...but not through grease lines in winter ....tooo thick.
I did mention that one in the video as well. It’s a great tip. Correct me if I’m wrong (and I very well could be), but the purpose of having the spare gasket(s) was so that the old one could just be cut off and a new one just slid over the flanges and the clamp reinstalled? With this new turret design the swivelling action takes place between the two elbows at the bottom of the turret, which are fixed together with a clamp that is bolted to the turret structure (elbows need to be removed to install the gasket regardless). I’m 100% going to give that marine grease a try. Canadian Tire is my “bad habit” 😂 Thanks for the comment. Great tips! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 A maintenance day can be a nice change of pace for sure. Just replaced a handful of drippy elbow gaskets on mine a few weeks ago. Hoping the turret stays sealed at least until winter.
@@andrewherbert5043 after 20+ years of doing this kind of work outdoors in our old gravel yard, there ain’t a day that goes by in which I take this indoor space for granted. I’m still battling to get over the “we’re not worthy” feeling 😂
Ha! I am very amateur. Blown 1 pipe on when filling the pump. Then I put the reducer on the pipe, last pipe on 5th boom which blew. Ran the concrete straight to the end of 300 million meters, about 30 meter, of hose, then the second pipe blew straight open. It's so stupidly long delivery time for a set of pipes.... been driving one layer steel pipes on various booms for the last 11 months. That's how long time those single layer pipes lives. M3 in total I don't know, but would guess around 20-22000m3
We get about 35-40 thousand cubic meters to a set of single-wall hardened boom pipes from a REPUTABLE manufacturer. The hood twin-wall stuff we’ve seen close to 100,000 cubic meters.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979the concrete here is packed full of chemicals because of co2. Some of the concrete is equal to 2 grit sand paper. Cleaning the hopper when pumping. Also the rocks is just crushed into the desired size, like 16-22-24mm. So I guess there is big difference is the the composition of the concrete from country to country...
Love watching your vids. I recommend your vids to all my mates new to pumping. That deck pipe that was 4.5mm could you not rotate it 180 or end to end it?
We definitely could. Seeing as we are re-piping the entire boom, we’ll likely just replace the deck pipe as well and not have to worry about having a mix ‘N match of pipes on the pump. In the past when we’ve done this it has come around to “bite us in the ass”. Also, with how dished out that one end of the pipe is right at at the point of the weld-on end, it would lead me to believe that heat from the welding process has affected the hardness profile of the pipe in that particular area. We’ve found this to be quite common with makeup pipes which aren’t welded in a perfectly controlled manner. We now just order our makeup pipes directly from ConForms.
Yea that makes perfect sense. I do love that you guys just replace it all when the cubic metres get up there. Anyways I love the vids mate, one day I’d like to make it up there and check your operation out and see how you guys do it first hand. Pump on mate 🤙
So you said you were worried about the crack in the liner of the pipe and i heard you say in another video that the cracks in the tip elbow liner were normal and ok. Is this correct? I have some cracks in the inside of my tip elbow and I’m wondering if I should just replace it or if it’s not a big deal
If it’s spider-cracking, I’m not too concerned about it, but when it’s a deep “fault line” type of crack, (as is the case with the elbow in this video), definitely want to look into replacing it.
I heard you mention that you rotate your elbows but how about the straight pipes? If I remember correctly in our company we rotate the elbows and straight pipes every 15-20000 cubic meters. Straights we only rotate 90 degrees because they tend to wear down the bottom first, this way we get the full life of the boom pipe. We have the heavy duty twin wall pipes in every machine.
We do a pipe inspection every month in which a minimum of two pipes and two elbows are measured for thickness and written down in a log book. When doing this, the pipes tested are rotated 180 degrees, and turned end-for-end. Definitely helps in achieving longer service life from the pipes 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Did I miss something You said. Grease outside of ring then bent- will fill inside of ring. But then you put grease on inside of rings. Or did I miss something
Grease the inside of the ring as well as using bentonite on the first prime to fill any remaining voids in the gasket. Outside of the ring I just use a light spray of WD40. I have a full boom-pipe install video with a rep from ConForms coming to the channel next month (just working on editing right bow).
We had our local service center modify this one for us. We wanted Putz to do it from factory, but anything changed from factory like this disrupts production and also triggers engineers.
I knownit may disrupt production but if they just made it like that from the factory it would probably please everyone who buys one that can have a lower height to slew side to side for those jobs where you need it
@@ThePorkchop81 You'd think so, but in this ultra competitive market space, anything which reduces production efficiency is the enemy (this little modification being one of those things I would think).
That little “skiff” of cream about 2/3rds the way down the pipe we’re not too concerned about. That’ll burn right out of there at the next job it pumps.
Scott great job what year are your pumps, I'm looking into used machines and I like to ensure we have the ease that you had working on your machine; otherwise we be looking at new machines.
This one is a 2017. If shopping used, I would strongly recommend something which has had as few previous owners as possible and ideally been used for mostly residential work. Sometimes buying pumps from a mega-corporation (like a Conco or Brundage) can be a great this as well since they have a diligent maintenance regimens and document absolutely everything. Other times however, larger commercial outfits just beat the tar out of their equipment with the intention of replacing it every 5-7 years. One thing for sure, fly out and take a look before purchasing, and if you know of a good mechanic, take them with you as well. It’s money we’ll spent.
Building is setup for a crane, but it’s a $150K+ which we’re not comfortable spending right now in the weird/unpredictable economy. Definitely on the wish-list however 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Love the content, can't help but be the 'safety guy' though, the boom ram really should have had some sort of safety stop, I know the odds of a hydraulic failure while happening to be under are slim as hell but there is a chance and hate to see one of y'all get crushed if it happened while directly under undoing a pipe!
The boom ram has holding valves which keep it in place in the event that a hydraulic line or fitting is sheared. For the boom to come down the hydraulic seals inside of the hydraulic cylinder (several of them) would have to spontaneously fail all at the same time. Completely get where you are coming from, but I have literally never heard/seen a secondary stop mechanism utilized for a procedure like these, even at the manufacturing level. The only time I’ve seen a boom held in place by secondary equipment (crane and/or tie-down straps) is when the hydraulic cylinders themselves are being completely removed from the boom.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 that is good to hear! I'm of course oblivious to the safety mechanisms on the pump, just made me cringe thinking it was possible! Can't blame a guy for thinking of y'all's safety even if it was naive, Carry on sir!
@@moosescorner it’s one of those things, whenever possible, we should never stand/be under a boom (I swear I’ve spent dozens of hours of my life explaining this to sub-trades on jobs sites), but it’s typically a much riskier scenario in which the boom is stretched out/under full load and there are also elements of potential human error to factor in (inadvertent movement of the boom and/or failure of supporting ground underneath of the outriggers). It is an excellent point which you bring up, just not super imperative in this particular situation. Always appreciate the comments. It makes for great discussion/learning amongst us as a collective group. 🙏
I’m fairly certain I know where this cream came from. We poured a bridge deck earlier in the week and had to go light on the amount of water used in between the two sponges (used the mud in the hopper to build a pad for the garbage cans at my little satellite yard).
Try duct taping the flange’s first. You’ll get a few more yards out of your swivels
Pinning this comment 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Always love learning new stuff ❤ great idea getting factory Teck in to explain the fine art details !!!
Hell yeah this is like Saturday morning cartoons
It’s funny you should mention that. I got up early this morning so I could watch the new vids from Concrete Pumping Service, Flying Wheels, and Ratarossa. I thought that exact same thing to myself, cartoons for middle-aged men!!!
Really appropriate the videos brother been pumping for 16+ years now an still learning everyday 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Same here, I learn something new literally every day. I’m a firm believer that the key to maximizing our potential as operators is to never stop learning, especially since our industry is in a constant state of evolution.
Appreciate you watching and commenting 🙏🙏🙏
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 bless work week boss 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽 aloha from Hawaii
Love these “not everyday” kinda videos. Full of valuable info!!! 🤘🏼
Good morning, there is no doubt that there is no one but one to do things personally, thank you for sharing great video, brother, God bless you
Thank goodness for easily accessible turrets. The early/ late 2000’s are a nightmare!
Sooooo much nicer/easier on the new style pedestals.
That transition looks like the same thing going into the turret of a 42/46/47.
Seeing as i don't get many vacation days on smaller trucks, i would never have thought of that. Thats an OG move brother, no B.S
Thanks Greg. Yes, it is the same part # used for previous generation 42-47 Putz machines. It’s amazing how much of different this little “tweak” makes. At least once a month we get a scenario in which having this bit of additional clearance makes all the difference.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 I can only imagine lol considering how often i get the trucks i run in tight spots, the more versatile 30/40 class machines seem to always be in a pinch.
Ingenuity and skills coming to the front ty lol
Awesome content, also great tips on what to grease / not grease. Totally agree with the sticky mess it can create. Thanks 👌
We used a blue “ultra tacky” type of grease for years, and it made an absolute mess of the booms (doesn’t help that ours are bright yellow either) 😂
You need a light yellow colored grease
@@ThePorkchop81 finders fee if you can locate me some 😀😀😀
Zero advice from me 😂 but I’ll still watch the video whether it’s relevant to what I do or not. Someday it just might be! Always great content 👍👍
You could at least tell me to up my tire shine game or something 😂😂😂
Thanks brother. Looking forward to seeing that new backend setup of yours in an upcoming video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I wish I had a ball stop on our 36Z to suck 2 balls back when cleaning. I find using the hard ball leaves more cream than the soft so I always suck it back nice and slow. I should definitely take a look at my deck pipes. As always love the content. 💪🏾
Problem I find with the hard ball is that even with the volume turned right down slow, the ball still hangs up a few strokes and then jumps back a couple of pipes/elbows at a time. I find it next to impossible to pull back a hard pull slow and controlled. We do hard ball first round then follow it up with water and a soft ball on the second round. There’s a story to this “skiff” of buildup, and it involves a bridge deck mix. 😁😁😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 pulling back 2 balls without a stop would destroy them I think 🤔
@@richardspence2005 I can confirm that on a Putz style backend, the water in between the first and second sponges will flush the first sponge into the S-tube/hopper. I have a buddy with a Schwing M-rock hopper which doesn’t do the same as the Putz.
@@richardspence2005 last 5 minutes of this video: ruclips.net/video/cqPoA1mTP14/видео.htmlsi=I3UJ_MTQ0pRACfal
@canadianconcretepumper1979
I put the hardball in my elbow, then i clamp my reducer back on, and cover the 4" side w my hand. I use my hand to keep a constant vacuum in the pipeline, allowing a little more air in as the ball slows, cutting air off when it speeds up. I've found it to work phenomenally.
If you're hanging a big hose, use your chest. Get the ball started in the discharge side of the hose, then shove the discharge side against your peck, and tuck a thumb in between. It's the same concept as using the 5-4 reducer and your hand..
Maybe I'll grab a gopro on black friday so i can make a little tutorial..
Where can one purchase and aj’s concrete pumping t-shirt or sweatshirt. I’d love to send you some of my union laborers local gear like a shirt and sweatshirt. Im from Massachusetts, been watching for a while and love your videos ❤🤘🏻😎
In the new year I’m going to work on something in terms of “merch”. E gee moths ago I had a pile of decals printed up and sent them out to people. It wound up being a ton of work. If demand were great enough. I’d like to get setup with a 3rd party which could take care of shipping and inventory. Shoot me an email at Scottjuly79@hotmail.com 😁
just a tip:
when servicing turret pipe add 1-2 extra gasket on pipe before reconnecting ....let gaskets be ready for next leak....also try use marine grease when doing swivels.....Canadian tire has marine grease and use small brush, also good for daily auger gease...but not through grease lines in winter ....tooo thick.
I did mention that one in the video as well. It’s a great tip. Correct me if I’m wrong (and I very well could be), but the purpose of having the spare gasket(s) was so that the old one could just be cut off and a new one just slid over the flanges and the clamp reinstalled? With this new turret design the swivelling action takes place between the two elbows at the bottom of the turret, which are fixed together with a clamp that is bolted to the turret structure (elbows need to be removed to install the gasket regardless).
I’m 100% going to give that marine grease a try. Canadian Tire is my “bad habit” 😂
Thanks for the comment. Great tips! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Another great video. Cheers.
Thank you brother. This one was fun! 😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 A maintenance day can be a nice change of pace for sure. Just replaced a handful of drippy elbow gaskets on mine a few weeks ago. Hoping the turret stays sealed at least until winter.
@@andrewherbert5043 after 20+ years of doing this kind of work outdoors in our old gravel yard, there ain’t a day that goes by in which I take this indoor space for granted. I’m still battling to get over the “we’re not worthy” feeling 😂
Very nice ❤🎉
Should paint the inside of the pipe not out side so it keeps it looking nice and matching 😊 and people can still tell if it’s good or bad
We’d never see it 3 years from now when we go to sift through the pile and the inside of each elbow has become a hornets nest! 😂😂😁
Ha! I am very amateur. Blown 1 pipe on when filling the pump. Then I put the reducer on the pipe, last pipe on 5th boom which blew.
Ran the concrete straight to the end of 300 million meters, about 30 meter, of hose, then the second pipe blew straight open.
It's so stupidly long delivery time for a set of pipes.... been driving one layer steel pipes on various booms for the last 11 months. That's how long time those single layer pipes lives. M3 in total I don't know, but would guess around 20-22000m3
We get about 35-40 thousand cubic meters to a set of single-wall hardened boom pipes from a REPUTABLE manufacturer. The hood twin-wall stuff we’ve seen close to 100,000 cubic meters.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979the concrete here is packed full of chemicals because of co2.
Some of the concrete is equal to 2 grit sand paper. Cleaning the hopper when pumping.
Also the rocks is just crushed into the desired size, like 16-22-24mm. So I guess there is big difference is the the composition of the concrete from country to country...
I made that mistake last time i changed that turrent gasket. Its way easier to change it when those hoses arent wrapped around!
I’ve done it as well…. and reinstalled the pipe with the lines set on the wrong side 😂😂😂
Love watching your vids. I recommend your vids to all my mates new to pumping.
That deck pipe that was 4.5mm could you not rotate it 180 or end to end it?
We definitely could. Seeing as we are re-piping the entire boom, we’ll likely just replace the deck pipe as well and not have to worry about having a mix ‘N match of pipes on the pump. In the past when we’ve done this it has come around to “bite us in the ass”. Also, with how dished out that one end of the pipe is right at at the point of the weld-on end, it would lead me to believe that heat from the welding process has affected the hardness profile of the pipe in that particular area. We’ve found this to be quite common with makeup pipes which aren’t welded in a perfectly controlled manner. We now just order our makeup pipes directly from ConForms.
Yea that makes perfect sense. I do love that you guys just replace it all when the cubic metres get up there.
Anyways I love the vids mate, one day I’d like to make it up there and check your operation out and see how you guys do it first hand.
Pump on mate 🤙
So you said you were worried about the crack in the liner of the pipe and i heard you say in another video that the cracks in the tip elbow liner were normal and ok. Is this correct? I have some cracks in the inside of my tip elbow and I’m wondering if I should just replace it or if it’s not a big deal
If it’s spider-cracking, I’m not too concerned about it, but when it’s a deep “fault line” type of crack, (as is the case with the elbow in this video), definitely want to look into replacing it.
do you regularly rotate your pipes to extend the life of them? it's something we do at work. The deck pipes esp. because they see the most wear
I heard you mention that you rotate your elbows but how about the straight pipes? If I remember correctly in our company we rotate the elbows and straight pipes every 15-20000 cubic meters. Straights we only rotate 90 degrees because they tend to wear down the bottom first, this way we get the full life of the boom pipe. We have the heavy duty twin wall pipes in every machine.
We do a pipe inspection every month in which a minimum of two pipes and two elbows are measured for thickness and written down in a log book. When doing this, the pipes tested are rotated 180 degrees, and turned end-for-end. Definitely helps in achieving longer service life from the pipes 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Have you tried EPDM rubber gaskets?
I have not. Do you by chance have a link to where I could look them up?
Did I miss something
You said. Grease outside of ring then bent- will fill inside of ring.
But then you put grease on inside of rings.
Or did I miss something
Grease the inside of the ring as well as using bentonite on the first prime to fill any remaining voids in the gasket. Outside of the ring I just use a light spray of WD40.
I have a full boom-pipe install video with a rep from ConForms coming to the channel next month (just working on editing right bow).
Putz should make your special deck pipe like that on all those from factory
We had our local service center modify this one for us. We wanted Putz to do it from factory, but anything changed from factory like this disrupts production and also triggers engineers.
I knownit may disrupt production but if they just made it like that from the factory it would probably please everyone who buys one that can have a lower height to slew side to side for those jobs where you need it
@@ThePorkchop81 You'd think so, but in this ultra competitive market space, anything which reduces production efficiency is the enemy (this little modification being one of those things I would think).
Did you guys take care of that extra piece of cream or concrete in the middle of the deck pipe?
That little “skiff” of cream about 2/3rds the way down the pipe we’re not too concerned about. That’ll burn right out of there at the next job it pumps.
Scott great job what year are your pumps, I'm looking into used machines and I like to ensure we have the ease that you had working on your machine; otherwise we be looking at new machines.
If these rigs are new to you I guess from your 7 year comment these is a 2016 pump
This one is a 2017. If shopping used, I would strongly recommend something which has had as few previous owners as possible and ideally been used for mostly residential work. Sometimes buying pumps from a mega-corporation (like a Conco or Brundage) can be a great this as well since they have a diligent maintenance regimens and document absolutely everything. Other times however, larger commercial outfits just beat the tar out of their equipment with the intention of replacing it every 5-7 years. One thing for sure, fly out and take a look before purchasing, and if you know of a good mechanic, take them with you as well. It’s money we’ll spent.
I surprises you don’t have 5 ton crane
Building is setup for a crane, but it’s a $150K+ which we’re not comfortable spending right now in the weird/unpredictable economy. Definitely on the wish-list however 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Love the content, can't help but be the 'safety guy' though, the boom ram really should have had some sort of safety stop, I know the odds of a hydraulic failure while happening to be under are slim as hell but there is a chance and hate to see one of y'all get crushed if it happened while directly under undoing a pipe!
The boom ram has holding valves which keep it in place in the event that a hydraulic line or fitting is sheared. For the boom to come down the hydraulic seals inside of the hydraulic cylinder (several of them) would have to spontaneously fail all at the same time. Completely get where you are coming from, but I have literally never heard/seen a secondary stop mechanism utilized for a procedure like these, even at the manufacturing level. The only time I’ve seen a boom held in place by secondary equipment (crane and/or tie-down straps) is when the hydraulic cylinders themselves are being completely removed from the boom.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 that is good to hear! I'm of course oblivious to the safety mechanisms on the pump, just made me cringe thinking it was possible! Can't blame a guy for thinking of y'all's safety even if it was naive, Carry on sir!
@@moosescorner it’s one of those things, whenever possible, we should never stand/be under a boom (I swear I’ve spent dozens of hours of my life explaining this to sub-trades on jobs sites), but it’s typically a much riskier scenario in which the boom is stretched out/under full load and there are also elements of potential human error to factor in (inadvertent movement of the boom and/or failure of supporting ground underneath of the outriggers). It is an excellent point which you bring up, just not super imperative in this particular situation. Always appreciate the comments. It makes for great discussion/learning amongst us as a collective group. 🙏
Hi
Suck your second sponge back slower.. less cream
I’m fairly certain I know where this cream came from. We poured a bridge deck earlier in the week and had to go light on the amount of water used in between the two sponges (used the mud in the hopper to build a pad for the garbage cans at my little satellite yard).
Bridge deck mix and/or high strength SCC mixes are most always the culprit when we find stuff like this.