High capacity microSD cards and Android - Gary explains
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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If you have a smartphone that includes a microSD card slot then you are likely to ask, 'what is the highest capacity card that I can use on my phone?' Unfortunately the answer isn't as simple as you might think.
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you seems like a teacher and I wish all teachers were like you..... great video man
Same🙈
+ziad ahmed I wish my teacher will never be like him, He should get a real job, that old hag
Majsner _ what does that have to do with anything at all??? you must be a democrat...........
Amazing professor, rare indeed
You mean seem
Bloody brilliant explanation! Made it easier to understand for non-techies.
Hearing this guy talk about FAT made my night lol
Your intelligence is really shining here
Tuco Salamanca LoL.
Wow, this is the best.. incredible......Jarryd Hayne, Bill Gates.. Batman....Breaking Bad. Goku
You're still a child.
my favourite youtube lecturer
same
+martinus krisma My 2nd fav
+Dhruv Agarwal Who is 1st?
He's an Indian youtuber living in Dubai.
Gets around 300 subs perday
Channel Name - Technical Guruji
Dhruv Agarwal Ahh hes pretty good
Very informative. I searched all over the net and couldn't find the answers I was looking for in regards to how much expandable memory my phone could expand to until I watched this video .
watching this 10 months later and it made me learn new info, thats when you know how good the video is.
10:01 No, what's happening is that those phones are able to format a drive using an out of (strict) spec FAT32, not exFAT (also called FAT64). FAT32 is limited to 32GB by MS for practicality reasons (and also to push NTFS), but it can actually access a drive up to 2TB using 512KB (yes, kilobyte) sectors or 16TB using 4MB (yes, megabyte) sectors, which is fine for large files, but then any file smaller than the sector size will always take up an entire sector EACH (until you defrag the partition). Also, any file which takes up a full sector, plus 1 byte, will take up 2 full sectors. so, if you have a 4MB (4,194,304 bytes) sector size, and you have a file which is 4,194,305 bytes, it will physically take up 8MB of space. MS is limited to 4096byte sectors to limit that fragmentation.
Any device which correctly supports FAT32 will read the out of spec format just fine, including Windows XP machines (not older, though), you just need a formatter which will create an out of spec partition.
I really like Gary's clear, concise teaching style. I hope he keeps adding content.
Your videos are brilliant Gary, you teach me with patronising me or me losing interested.
interest *
and he makes me feel emotionally secure
It's good to see you again, Sir. I always learn something useful from your videos. Thank you.
Finally a guy who's capable of explain such an important issue in an understandable way, congratulations Gary, and looking forward to see the logical lecture: How FAT, FAT32, NTFS and ex-FAT handle the file sizes in the same pedagogical way you made this one.
Really informative video, but a simple illustration or table or graph that says what format works and what doesn't work will be much easier for people to grasp, instead of pure listening.
I watched twice to fully understand this video.
Jason K I agree with you.A table would be much better, although I understood what he said the first time. Maybe because of my previous knowledge of this subject.
This is all so confusing, fat that works and fat that doesn't work. Instructions unclear, going on fasting diet to lose all fat.
No Name In short:
All cards work, though in some phones/devices you’ll have to format them as FAT32 and consequently won’t be able to store files larger than 4GB.
I got it the first time through and found the details interesting.
I thought it was fine, but maybe I'm too well versed in formatting and filesystems.
i love this man ! he is awesome, the best in android authority team 👍
I can't get enough of these videos. Keep it up Gary!
I use exFAT on all my internal and external hard drive, simply because NTFS Security/Permission screwing up when standard user vs admin user profile.
gary and juan (from pocketnow) are the 2 best techies imo
Agreed.
Very hard to argue with that.
Agree :)
Agree!
Yes they are, but you missed Captain2Phones ;-)
You just clearly answered several questions I have been asking for 10+ years. I thank you sir it means alot
Congratulations, this is the best explanation I've seen on the subject. Great video!
What I don't understand is why the Android phone manufacturers simply didn't go with an open format such as ext4 for the larger SD cards; it would have been *free* for them to do so. Ditto for other equipment manufacturers, such as TV, photocopiers, etc. The only roadblock would have been Windows' current inability to recognize this filesystem, but AFAIK, with the right driver added, Windows should be able to recognize it as well as exFAT.
This video was really informative! Been a while since the last time i saw such a straightforward, simple and valuable video in just under 15 minutes! Great work!
your explanation is more clear and easy to understand than my computer science professors.. And it was actually interesting :)
i study computer science and what i can tell you is that FAT32 will and should work well with sd cards up to 500gb max as what my teacher told me. just because it's called FAT32 doesnt mean it can only handle 32Gb that's a load of bull. 32 was meant for 32bit if im not mistaken and it will very well support drives higher than 32gb.
limitation:
-file size creation (like videos and so on that's why it's only 2 hours max in some devices for videos and so on)
-the amount of sub folders that you can create within them. (i forgot how many but its not that much)
-get's fragmentation problems and becomes inefficient with bigger drives (if its more than 500gb or more than 320gb stick with NTFS or extendedFAT)
-security: if you have lots of data on a drive that is bigger than the said drives then you might run into some problems like lost or corrupt data. that's why microsoft made the NTFS because it's safer more efficient and is quicker.-less fragmentation on hard disks.
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advantages:
-compatability
-simpler ---(i think)---
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-FAT32 is ideal for small drives as they need less tables to operate them from what my teacher said its great for small memory devices like sd cards and flash drives.
-note: i formatted one of my extra drives with FAT32 that's a 320gb drive and it works FINE. no problems just defragment it when things start to slow down. i did it for funziez
-extra note: playstation3's uses FAT32 from factory and works fine and you see those sporting 500gb these days.
well this is a long comment.. *drops virtual potato* :D
he didnt say that . dont waste potatoes real or virtual.
Thank You! I'm new at this, I didn't even know what format to my camera meant and I now know how easy it is to format thanks to you.
You know it's a good video when the opening line is... It's simple, but it's not... Love it
Excellent presentation. I like this guy's explanations of things. He keeps things simple.
I lost 3 hours of footage because I didn't know my old camera didn't recognize exFAT from my 64Gb card and kept writing over older files. Very sad, but now I am improving my knowledge about that. Going back to my 32Gb card. It should be noted that sometimes it appears to be working, but it is in fact doing something strange, like overwriting it's own data over and over, so from now on I always follow the manufacturer's advice.
update from the future! march 2019 the 1TB sdxc card has come out :P
This guy Gary, does some of the best android rewies. Awesome!
To enable exFAT support on Linux for distribution that use apt as package manager like Ubuntu you can just open a Terminal and give this command:
sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
Reboot the system and you're done, you now have full exFAT support on your Linux system and you're able to mount, read and write removable drives.
You're welcome
Yep, the Linux foundation can't quite include exFAT and NTFS support built in for legal reasons, but of course people have reverse engineered drivers for those filesystems
I've got a SanDisk 200gb in my Galaxy s4. Works like a charm. Picked it up a few months ago on Amazon for sale price of $60.
Bought the same for my z5, sadly with the marshmallows update they stripped the function to adopt the SD as internal. thankfully there I was able to adopt it but it is a little complicated and officially not supported
, as of a few days ago, for less than $20 & in a non-open market country (meaning, different from america), i was still able to get a 128gb micro sd sanDisk.
for $60 i'm now seeing deals for a half terabyte..
F*** patents ... I wish all systems had native ext3/4 FS support at bare minimum, opensource and free, not mentioning that it is faster than exFAT.
I wish systems actually supported GUID partition maps, but legacy software is everywhere. :/
Dang Gary, I practically have a man crush on you. Great video.
dafuq
No more joking on this thread.😇
Whoa!!
I seriously stayed through the whole video and now, i am a wise learned man. Peace.
Very nicely explained. Easy to understand. Now those formatting formats make some sense. Thanks Gary
I'm an electrical engineering student and I find your video really informative.. :D
You're simply the best Gary.. I'm watching all your videos as if I'm in a lecture.. (y)
Off topic slightly here but isn't it amazing how much flash memory fits on something as small as a microSD card the literal size of my fingernail and how cheap it is (256gb for ~$22 in 2022).
I love you Gary. Not only you are excelent at explaning how technology works. You also make this very entertaining.
+NinjaAlbertoSan no homo tho
Or just format as ext4, most Android phones use that as their filesystems by default.
No, it's not just not to confuse customers. Samsung actually restricts the size of the cards you can put into their phones for some reason. My last phone could read a 256 GB card but not a 400 GB card. Which is incidentally the limit of my current phone, even though 512 GB cards were already a thing when I bought it.
Fantastic video for the SD cards and File Systems.
Gary Sims + Josh Vergara + Jaime Rivera from Pocketnow = Ultimate RUclips team
Micheal Fisher (MobileNation) + Lisa (MobileTechReview) = dream team
Thanks Gary! Well Done! It is one thing to know this stuff, and quite another to present it in a meaningful way in a video. Awesome!
so now i know that my old sd card is not broken, i just need to format it. Thanks Gary!
Nice video. I thought I'd share my experience. Now I have no idea if this works for exfat but I had a usb drive formated in ntfs. While android didn't show it as recognized, I was able to read and write to it using es file explorer.
That's the most useful video I've seen in years. I couldn't read my 128gb card from my phone in my win XP PC. This explains everything. I hate the fact that everyone has to pay Microsoft though.
You lost me like 20 secs into the video, but I like how you summed it up in dummy terms at the end. Thanks man!
You've only done half the job here
Read off and Write to these SDXC cards that have been reformatted and tell many if you get any failures.
Also, do you get full storage as shown on card?
One thing that I've noticed on my LG G3, is that the phone will recognise exFAT when it's booted up(Cloudy G3), but TWRP will only recognise FAT32.
Guru Gary does it again! Amazing video as usual.
You can use diskpart to format SDXC as FAT32. The filesystem is the only difference between SDHC & SDXC.
this is highly relatable with me encountering problems a 128GB micro SD card working on my new nintendo 3ds portable. had to do some research on this and look for a workaround to format the sd card with fat32 :I
formatting my external 8tb hdd to exfat, made my 2015 Samsung JS8500 4k tv to fully recognize it. I thought my tv can't recognize anything past 2TB or less. I'm so happy I don't have to shop for another tv for a very long time.
Great Video and information, I agree with Jason K about how a graph would certainly expedite the knowledge crystallization.
I have never had any issues with swapping in higher capacity cards in my Motorola Droid2,, Droid4 and Wifeys SG5.
Until I upgrade my phone again I have been granted a temporary reprieve with the Droid Turbo (64GB and sans MicroSD slot).
Actually The original SD could support up to 4GB as well As there being SDHC 4GB cards. The SDHC format phased out the SD format while the 4GB SD theoretical maximum was reached. Also SDHC has a naturally higher transfer speed VS SD so that was another factor why you almost only saw 4GB SDHC cards.
very useful
Gary explain's everything
Love these kinds of videos. More please!
Sometimes, for new sdcard can be format type is FAT32 because old or new phone can read for FAT32 only. For old phone only said up to 32GB and new phone said up to 64/128/256/512GB or more.
For old smartphone user, you can use more than 32GB with format to FAT32. Example for my phone is HUAWEI Y3II, manufacture sdcard up to 32GB. But i put my 128GB sdcard to my phone, and suprising it read it.
Can confirm, been using a reformatted 64GB micro SD in an "only 32GB micro SD card" tablet with no worries for years
My biggest problem with micro sd cards is that they don't really seem to stick to a standard. Some brands work quite well in certain devices and others don't. There is nothing wrong with the card really. I can take a card that performs poorly in one device and have it work quite well in something else. I just wish that they would stick to a standard. It's a pain to purchase a large card and find that it doesn't work. Manufacturers don't always publish that information either. It is generally easy to find a compatibility list for RAM and a motherboard. I would like to see compatibility lists for the SD cards.
Gary you are a smart guy. Good for you
I learned something new. Thank you Gary!
please make a video on vivo xplay 5 and i wanna see a versus vdo pitching it up against the best flagship smartphones on the market today. m sure everyone wants to see it :)
Didn't know about it. I'll give it a try after getting a bigger SD card.
So guys, the basic lifehack is: if you have any card larger than 32GB and you want it work EVERYWHERE - format it as FAT32 within seconds using fat32format tool which I did on my brand new Sandisk Extreme PRO 1TB microsd. And yes, now I can have 1TB of storage EVERYWHERE I want - on my TV, on any phone or any camera or any other device with USB port no matter which year this device is from. You can't format it in FAT32 in Windows just because it is a limit of Windows formatter itself (or because Bill Gates doesn't want you to format your drives in fat32). The only drawback is you can't have a file size larger than 4GB on your drive which is no problem for me.
Wow. Very detailed breakdown - thanks.
this guy is my new best teacher in tech :))
Why can't they all get together and tell Microsoft to fucking take a hike.
+Derrick Best all the companies troll each other like this. its not just microsoft.
Narindra Singh it's not a minor troll. It's a vampiric troll. No different from mafia style extortion. Slowing down progress for profit.
Derrick Best all the companies do this. thats life
If you install "Synaptic" on a Linux PC (Ubuntu-style) and search for exfat it will install support for exfat.
Many buts and ifs which became somewhat cumbersome to take in. A matrix would've been useful to summarise and help comparison.
great video, very informative.
does formatting the 128gb sd card to fat32 reduce the 128gb usage capacity of the card?
That rollercoaster footage was random as.
Many of the newer Android devices will accept SD cards up 256 GB. They are probably using ex-FAT. Android 8 gives a card a drive name that looks like an MS-DOS volume label so I take it they are named by volume labels. My Android 9 tablet has a long name for it's SD card so I suspect it's using ex-FAT. This video is five years old so there could be a ton and a half of changes.
He was named after Linus Pauling, so please consider the pronunciation.
OK Gary, you're good. And most of it checks out.
But you missed a small detail. I read most of the comments and I see everyone did.
My xperia z c6603 came with KitKat and then there was no exFat support. But when I
rooted it and installed a custom Lollypop ROM/kernel, I was surprised to see exFat support in the change-log list. My conclusion is that developers could add lines of code that would include support at the kernel level, which in this case would be Linux 3.4 kernel. Just saying...
There is more to it than just Linux/OSX/MSoft.
Thanks anyway for a well spoken/structured explanation.
That trick worked in a SDHC camcorder I had formatting a 64gb SDXC as FAT32.
I also had another SDXC camcorder that wouldn't work with cards bigger than 256GB so no all SDXC Devices support up to 2TB.
So long story short, even if an OEM says "only up to 32GB (SDHC)", they still actually use a SDXC port in the phone, and it comes down only to the used file system?!
I must say, I'm not really surprised.
Children watch Unbox Therapy,
Men watch MKBHD/Linus Tech Tips
Legends watch Gary Sims
Phone manufacturers should just list expandable storage as something like "SDXC compatible (up to 2TB according to standard)" instead of the biggest size currently available, it's confusing.
I've read a lot on microSD card but listening to your history lessons on it was way better... Thanks... Now we know why Microsoft is so rich. Cheers!
Hearing this guy talk about FAT made me rethink my diet.
The Gary that was a super helpful video, "the more you know".... (I just put remix OS on an exFAT Samsung 128GB usb3 (dongle) thumb drive.)
anybody else think Gary should have his own channel
Thank you sir for this informative video
Really good and interesting info.. Thank you Gary
why does anyone with limey accent give the feeling tone of high levels of intelligence.
the reality is, Gary was born in Blackpool and grew up in Leeds before moving to Tottenham at 15 due to explosion from 2 primary schools. He eventually dropped out and started to do favors for local street tuffs and ran his own crew within a few years. Knowlage of electronic gadgets and some visits to local jails for petty larson dubed the Nick name, Celly Cell or C.C. for short.
Celly being cell phone and cell as in jail cell.
later, C.C. branched out to West Croydon trying to escape an Interpol investigstion of counterfeit electronics and the primary suspect or suspects who incited the 2011 riots and Tottenham.
Eventually, he would find himself in a complex relationship with a rival gang members sister and knocked her up and took refuge in Hackney where he lived for a while before deciding to stop the rubbish and clean up his act.
keep it real C.C.
much love for ya big homie
Happy Father's Day!
You can format any size sd card to FAT32 with 3rd party software.
Interesting video Gary, as Android is a Linux distro surely it could use some of linux's File Systems - such as BTRFS/ZFS - instead of the FATs.
thanks for a simple explanation of a think i never realty understood
Great info. *Thx* !!!!
I wonder what if the card formated as ext4, as all new Android device have ext4 support.
Is this an option formatting within Android OS?
Must have Extreme to 4K ultra not read 4K sizev
Anyway we cant move apps to SD card...
Seriously Microsoft. Even Linux devs gets tired of this patent and loyalty shits.
patents and proprietary software in general suck
Sorry for the necro but fat32 and exfat are now free to use and open source since Microsoft joined OIN
Linux supports exFAT, but you need to install it (exFAT utilities) separately.
Excellent presentation, thanks.
thank you for the nice explanation but we need to show a text of use ,,, I don't thing it will work properly after that specially after you use a high resolution video record.
Awesome explanation.
There will be Android authority institute. and you'll be our lecturer.
Very interesting, we learn all the time---THANKS
I don't get it... Why would the SD committee prescribe what FS format to use? Sounds to me it should be out of their scope/responsibility.