When the snow blows for a couple hundred miles, it gets tired and needs to sleep. We get that same stuff here in Saskatchewan. The higher the banks, the deeper the drifts.
My maternal family lived on a farm near Saskatoon. My Mom spoke of stepping over phone lines. I got the impression that the lines were 20 ft high. That’s what she thought as a little girl. The children in the area were in a covered cart driven by a horse. It was too cold to walk, and they thought the kids would freeze to death on way to 1 room schoolhouse.
My county in Michigan uses V - plows on the drifted dirt roads but there plows are much taller in the center and flare out farther at the top edge and they literally throw the snow 30 to 40 feet and rarely get bogged down in the drifts .
I seen an oshkosh plow through snow between 4 and 5 ft once. He went much slower, had all four corners chained up and as he went through he would lift slightly on plow for more wt on front wheels. He muscled right on through.
A lot of smaller agencies can't afford a blower, unless several communities go into together and share the cost. But snow fence in the worst spots would definitely help if the land owners will cooperate.
Need to windrow the snow in the fields next to the road to create snow fences , you will never keep the road open without a lot of work ! It's done in the west in the snow and wind county , really works great !!
I was about to mention this , I’ve built many a mile of windrows used as snow fences , after each blow we’d go back and push that snow up , those windrows would get pretty deep , we’d usually put in several rows if there was room enough
It would fill in in a day and your snow would be even deeper bye the time in hit the road. Snow fence only makes snow deeper in North Dakota. Wind blows every day here. To really experience winter you should spend a couple winters in North Dakota 😂😂😂😂
I’ve done it for years , the biggest mistake many make is placing the fence right along the road , if as in this picture you have open field you start your fences or windrows a distance back , then as the snow build behind them you shove the snow up higher , and there is a series of them . I have seen dozers on them twenty ft above the surface and the highway open
What you are seeing is the operator opening the road as quickly as possible. Pushing the snow back will come when they finish the most important things first. It’s unfair to criticize the operator from this video. Arm chair critics are annoying to tho guys that are out there doing it.
@@dennispalmer6007 no criticism on my part , just an observation on how some areas do it , V plows can work to an extent , then come loaders and dozers , and if available blowers , I’ve used dozers and loaders , with a much needed assist from a blower ,after the V plow could not get through because the drifts had become too deep , we’d get permission from land owners where we could and build drift fences out of the snow it’s self To help keep the drifting on the roads to a bare minimum
I’m in Ontario south of Georgian Bay on the Niagara escarpment. The county uses the grader with the vee plow quite often. In the early 80’s we were snowed in for 8 days. The grader kept working at the drifts but the wind would blow and fill in behind him. The local farmers helped with their tractors and snow blowers, gave the grader diesel fuel. The operator would sleep in the grader whenever he was tired and plowed when he was awake. We have pictures of us looking down on the roof of the grader, the snow banks were higher than the grader. Eventually the wind let up and the county brought in big blowers to open the roads. My dad would take the snowmobile to town for groceries. Fun times
A grader that is all chained up is a real force to be reckoned with. Now days there are six wheel drive graders that must be even more awesome if that is possible :)
Love the smarty pants who have never plowed snow and don’t understand the reasoning behind this. Blowers are great and if they’re around (usually private contractors) they will be working somewhere. They can’t clear every road though so the guys go out with the V plows too, many of which the municipalities have owned for 50 years or more. To clear the roads they can and call the blowers for the rest.
In our Township we have a few roads with no fences, no poles, no ditches, no driveways or houses through land that is dead flat. I overheard the supervisor on the radio with the grader operator asking him to look out the back window......if you see gravel, great......if you see green grass....you are not on the road anymore. I laughed out loud !
Looks like the winter of 96-97 in North Dakota. I had a buy tractor that year. My 79 ramcharger with 35s was no match for the 128 inches of snow we had in wishek nd. Couldn't get into the farm yard from Halloween until January 8th when I got the tractor. Fun fun.
I did snow removal for 38 years for NYC, using heavy equipment. I used Backhoes, Road Graders, Front End Loaders, and Bulldozers. For heavy drifted snow IMHO the best tool is the D6LGP with 6 way blade. It would just walk through that snow, drifts be darned. I had a situation where the boss said "Take a D6 and meet a Supervisor at such and such streets." After plowing my way there (1.5 hour trip) I didn't see anything. 10 minutes later the Super shows up. he says "What do you see?" Me, "Nothing." Then he says "Get out, I want to show you something." So, I got out of the machine, and we walked through 4 foot snow for about 50 feet. Then he pointed in front of us. "See those houses way over there?" (pointing) Me, "Okay." Super, "See those houses way over there?" (pointing in the opposite direction) "Well, there is a street between them. There are cars on that street, but we can't see them, because they are completely covered in snow." He said, "Start in the middle of this area, till you locate the street and get your bearings. Then work your way out on both sides until you reach the cars, careful not to hurt the cars. We will take it from there. " The street was wide (maybe 80 feet) but only about a quarter of a mile long. It still took me about 9 hours to plow the whole street. Then another 1.5 hours schlep back to Fresh Kills Landfill. Typical 12 hour snow removal day. Next day, it's out with a Loader or Grader. Every day was different. But, deep drifts, can't beat a dozer, slow and steady. But, unstoppable.
Isn't MAN-made gloBULL warming a wondrous thing? I remember growing up in Monona County, Iowa, and seeing snowdrifts 8-10 deep in the cuts of the unpaved county roads, and the township's road grader (a #12 Caterpillar) operator battering his way through these drifts, as he went about getting the road past our house open.
If you're looking to open roads to local traffic you have to start with a blade before bringing out the blowers that only work at 2mph when working snow this high.
Moved 4 years ago from up North can truly say I don't miss The Drifting snow .In my 70s now and I live in South Central Indiana maybe an inch of snow .
Imagine before GPS/GeoLocation...it was by guess and by God. In Alaska we had roads in winter that didn't exist the rest of the year...sort of "where would you like a road?"
This reminds me of the show "Ice Road Truckers". I would not choose that as an occupation. No way! Good Grief. How deep were these drifts? How long did it take to clear this whole area? It will happen for this will be repeated throughout the whole season.
Snow blower at that point, as you are just beating up equipment. Oshkosh. Mack, or Walter Snow Fighters are good trucks with a V-plow, but plows have their limits. ......Retired 44 year diesel truck, and heavy equipment mechanic.
Don’t they use snow fences there??? I own a small plowing business here in WI. Snow fences act like the road in that the snow builds barriers around the fence or just beyond.
Lots do fence, but sometimes there more road than you can fence. They also need to be maintained (raised) as they collect snow which is a big job if there is a lot of road to cover. Also not all land owners will provide right of entry. Especially those with winter wheat crops etc. Rjdging is very effective where allowed. Fast to maintain as well. But crop farmers really don't like that trick lol.
It’s funny i was watching the snow fighters of the Tug Hill plateau from 1939,amazing footage saved from being destroyed.Its much like what they are doing here in almost the same vintage era trucks. ruclips.net/video/TZR2WbD3Hz0/видео.htmlsi=elOupk3AlyXk26yY
Wow, reading comments from people who don't live in the plains states or prairie proivinces telling those who do , how to remove snow on flat land with wind every day.. FFS
Trees too close to the road will only make this problem occur faster. They would be most effective 50 - 75 yards out in the field. But that's private property. Where I live, the provincial government paid land owners adjacent to major road networks for permission to use a strip of property for tree growth. It was a good program, and was greatly effective. But eventually over spray from crop dusting killed the trees. They were well established. 25 yard wide strip and 30 ft tall and went for a solid 150 km of road network. Once one owner sprayed them, others followed suit. Some still live where the land owners didn't spray then, but the majority were sprayed out. I get it, it's private property, but some folks are jerks, and kinda don't care about anything but themselves. The problem in the video will go on for the rest of the winter with any amount of wind. Snow blowers, plows, don't matter. The only solution is to make that area flat again with the prairie level. That would require dozers or snow cats, and a lotta reluctant landowner right of entry permission. These situations are attached with large costs. Generally isolated locations, and by the crunch of that snow, I'd say it's -20 ~ -25 C. It's going to be hard on equipment. Which is probably why you see an old tank of a grader that's constructed properly for the task.
Problem is ,it takes a big ass pile of money to buy a big ass snowblower, many of these small municipalities don't have that big ass pile of money so they do with what they have.
Insurances and liabilities makes it a little difficult to work with farmers. The cost of insurance for snow removal equipment is very costly. That and a lot of farmers are just flat out not interested.
When the snow blows for a couple hundred miles, it gets tired and needs to sleep. We get that same stuff here in Saskatchewan. The higher the banks, the deeper the drifts.
My maternal family lived on a farm near Saskatoon. My Mom spoke of stepping over phone lines. I got the impression that the lines were 20 ft high. That’s what she thought as a little girl. The children in the area were in a covered cart driven by a horse. It was too cold to walk, and they thought the kids would freeze to death on way to 1 room schoolhouse.
So awesome! This guy is a good operator 👍. More plz
My county in Michigan uses V - plows on the drifted dirt roads but there plows are much taller in the center and flare out farther at the top edge and they literally throw the snow 30 to 40 feet and rarely get bogged down in the drifts .
are you a yooper or a troll?
I’ve plowed with a vee, they are incredible
Merry Christmas from Ohio. No snow here...yet...hopeful for some. This is addicting to watch. I love it. 😎🤘
I seen an oshkosh plow through snow between 4 and 5 ft once. He went much slower, had all four corners chained up and as he went through he would lift slightly on plow for more wt on front wheels. He muscled right on through.
Great video. As an observation vs criticism-complete drone footage would make this 10x better than it already is.
Always loved running grader plowing snow 18yrs oregon dot. Much funner than a blower😊
I'm in North Dakota. I feel your pain lol
Looks like a snow blower would be more effective on those biggest drifts. And snow fence
A lot of smaller agencies can't afford a blower, unless several communities go into together and share the cost. But snow fence in the worst spots would definitely help if the land owners will cooperate.
Need to windrow the snow in the fields next to the road to create snow fences , you will never keep the road open without a lot of work ! It's done in the west in the snow and wind county , really works great !!
I was about to mention this , I’ve built many a mile of windrows used as snow fences , after each blow we’d go back and push that snow up , those windrows would get pretty deep , we’d usually put in several rows if there was room enough
It would fill in in a day and your snow would be even deeper bye the time in hit the road. Snow fence only makes snow deeper in North Dakota. Wind blows every day here. To really experience winter you should spend a couple winters in North Dakota 😂😂😂😂
I’ve done it for years , the biggest mistake many make is placing the fence right along the road , if as in this picture you have open field you start your fences or windrows a distance back , then as the snow build behind them you shove the snow up higher , and there is a series of them . I have seen dozers on them twenty ft above the surface and the highway open
What you are seeing is the operator opening the road as quickly as possible. Pushing the snow back will come when they finish the most important things first. It’s unfair to criticize the operator from this video. Arm chair critics are annoying to tho guys that are out there doing it.
@@dennispalmer6007 no criticism on my part , just an observation on how some areas do it , V plows can work to an extent , then come loaders and dozers , and if available blowers , I’ve used dozers and loaders , with a much needed assist from a blower ,after the V plow could not get through because the drifts had become too deep , we’d get permission from land owners where we could and build drift fences out of the snow it’s self To help keep the drifting on the roads to a bare minimum
Good video, thanks. I've never seen a grader used like this before. And also the truck taking run-ups to crash into the snow was quite something.
I’m in Ontario south of Georgian Bay on the Niagara escarpment. The county uses the grader with the vee plow quite often. In the early 80’s we were snowed in for 8 days. The grader kept working at the drifts but the wind would blow and fill in behind him. The local farmers helped with their tractors and snow blowers, gave the grader diesel fuel. The operator would sleep in the grader whenever he was tired and plowed when he was awake. We have pictures of us looking down on the roof of the grader, the snow banks were higher than the grader. Eventually the wind let up and the county brought in big blowers to open the roads. My dad would take the snowmobile to town for groceries. Fun times
@@barrymacokiner9423 yeah, it certainly seems to do the job well - I wouldn't fancy sleeping in one though!
Thats when guys could move snow! We even used a dozer once in Canada
Only once lol. Must have been in the banana belt ha
@timbarrett5313 northern Ontario Grader just slipped! Dozer was open station with a tarp!
A grader that is all chained up is a real force to be reckoned with. Now days there are six wheel drive graders that must be even more awesome if that is possible :)
Love the smarty pants who have never plowed snow and don’t understand the reasoning behind this. Blowers are great and if they’re around (usually private contractors) they will be working somewhere. They can’t clear every road though so the guys go out with the V plows too, many of which the municipalities have owned for 50 years or more. To clear the roads they can and call the blowers for the rest.
In our Township we have a few roads with no fences, no poles, no ditches, no driveways or houses through land that is dead flat. I overheard the supervisor on the radio with the grader operator asking him to look out the back window......if you see gravel, great......if you see green grass....you are not on the road anymore. I laughed out loud !
We gonna need a bigger plow guys !
Wish had snow like that every winter. Been basically nothing 2 winters in a row so far.
Looks like the winter of 96-97 in North Dakota. I had a buy tractor that year. My 79 ramcharger with 35s was no match for the 128 inches of snow we had in wishek nd. Couldn't get into the farm yard from Halloween until January 8th when I got the tractor. Fun fun.
This is where a big old bulldozer would come in real handy say a Caterpillar D8 series or even a D6M model would have done the job.
That's my job too, everyday here in Idaho
I did snow removal for 38 years for NYC, using heavy equipment. I used Backhoes, Road Graders, Front End Loaders, and Bulldozers. For heavy drifted snow IMHO the best tool is the D6LGP with 6 way blade. It would just walk through that snow, drifts be darned. I had a situation where the boss said "Take a D6 and meet a Supervisor at such and such streets." After plowing my way there (1.5 hour trip) I didn't see anything. 10 minutes later the Super shows up. he says "What do you see?" Me, "Nothing." Then he says "Get out, I want to show you something." So, I got out of the machine, and we walked through 4 foot snow for about 50 feet. Then he pointed in front of us. "See those houses way over there?" (pointing) Me, "Okay." Super, "See those houses way over there?" (pointing in the opposite direction) "Well, there is a street between them. There are cars on that street, but we can't see them, because they are completely covered in snow." He said, "Start in the middle of this area, till you locate the street and get your bearings. Then work your way out on both sides until you reach the cars, careful not to hurt the cars. We will take it from there. " The street was wide (maybe 80 feet) but only about a quarter of a mile long. It still took me about 9 hours to plow the whole street. Then another 1.5 hours schlep back to Fresh Kills Landfill. Typical 12 hour snow removal day. Next day, it's out with a Loader or Grader. Every day was different. But, deep drifts, can't beat a dozer, slow and steady. But, unstoppable.
Better then the inch of snow we got here in eastern canada. I am kinda jealous
Road commissioner always called ours the road patrol!!!
Little bit of everything going on here, grader is awesome
I’m from Oklahoma, the last time we had snow like this was in 1972 that’s OK with me. I don’t like snow, lots of hard work.
Passenger gets in. Driver says "Sit down, buckle in, hold on, and shut up."
There’s this neat technology called landscape mode that you can access simply by rotating your phone 90 degrees.
Isn't MAN-made gloBULL warming a wondrous thing?
I remember growing up in Monona County, Iowa, and seeing snowdrifts 8-10 deep in the cuts of the unpaved county roads, and the township's road grader (a #12 Caterpillar) operator battering his way through these drifts, as he went about getting the road past our house open.
👍👍👍
Needs to be done with a snowblower
it has to be tough for rural counties. They prolly cannot afford snow blowers.
If you're looking to open roads to local traffic you have to start with a blade before bringing out the blowers that only work at 2mph when working snow this high.
Moved 4 years ago from up North can truly say I don't miss The Drifting snow .In my 70s now and I live in South Central Indiana maybe an inch of snow .
North Dakota. State tree is the telephone pole. State flower is the beer can. Enough said.
Imagine before GPS/GeoLocation...it was by guess and by God. In Alaska we had roads in winter that didn't exist the rest of the year...sort of "where would you like a road?"
Crazy man.
Graders are used in Montreal and Quebec fro snow removal. A snowblower would have cleaned the road faster.
it has to be tough for rural counties. They prolly cannot afford snow blowers.
Indeed
@@hisaddle I was living in Bas St-Laurent Québec and we had a big snowblower dual fan in the front of a big loader to open the same kind of roads :)
A little winter in Québec loll :) they need snowblower :)
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We hardly have any snow here in SE corner of ND.
I lived in the SW corner of North Dakota. Saw a D10 get buried up.
This is a few years ago, just got around to posting
Folks that snowplow roads like this are local farmers picking up winter work… they know exactly where the roads are.
time to build a super truck
They need a snow blower set up in front a a loader like here in Québec
What part of ND?
@TANGO22222222 south east north dakota 2 winters ago
Take that snow
Some drifts, for sure.
One silly question, Why is there no sand in the trunk box for weight to the trunk?
The truck did have gravel in the back
The truck did have gravel in the back
Hold your phone sideways to record for RUclips! Please and thank you
Will do. Hopefully this season brings some good snow
Reminds me of ft Greeley AK
This reminds me of the show "Ice Road Truckers". I would not choose that as an occupation. No way! Good Grief. How deep were these drifts? How long did it take to clear this whole area? It will happen for this will be repeated throughout the whole season.
Every day the wind would blow and partially close it. It was a tough battle. This was 22-23 winter
@@MidwestHillbilly01 Oh, Ok, Thank you.
Probably should invest in a snow blower so it doesn't build up and make it worse.
Snow blowers are employed when the snow can no longer be pushed through. Ploughs are much faster for the most part, so they are the default.
What ever happened to the snow fences the states and counties would put up to stop snow drifts like this from happening like this
IN THE 60s & 70 s we would have been in the fields ridging long before it got that deep
Single axle truck has some work to do.
Ahhh, a snow blower is clearly indicated for this work, just a thought😅
@DoubleJPTB .gotta be a big snow blower, end of the video shows a snow blower and wasn't doing too hot
@@MidwestHillbilly01 you never see our snowblower here in Québec my friend they are real machines :)
Snow blower at that point, as you are just beating up equipment. Oshkosh. Mack, or Walter Snow Fighters are good trucks with a V-plow, but plows have their limits. ......Retired 44 year diesel truck, and heavy equipment mechanic.
When I wake up all the roads have been plowed and salted hours ago….
Don’t they use snow fences there??? I own a small plowing business here in WI. Snow fences act like the road in that the snow builds barriers around the fence or just beyond.
Lots do fence, but sometimes there more road than you can fence. They also need to be maintained (raised) as they collect snow which is a big job if there is a lot of road to cover.
Also not all land owners will provide right of entry. Especially those with winter wheat crops etc.
Rjdging is very effective where allowed. Fast to maintain as well. But crop farmers really don't like that trick lol.
CATERPILLAR 6 wheel drive 16 M it solves all your problems.
Your welcome
Snow blower
This is now a area where a blower is required
Sigh all this drama is 100% preventable.
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It’s funny i was watching the snow fighters of the Tug Hill plateau from 1939,amazing footage saved from being destroyed.Its much like what they are doing here in almost the same vintage era trucks.
ruclips.net/video/TZR2WbD3Hz0/видео.htmlsi=elOupk3AlyXk26yY
Wow, reading comments from people who don't live in the plains states or prairie proivinces telling those who do , how to remove snow on flat land with wind every day.. FFS
So true. They mean well though.
Why was there so much snow that was so hard? Was it not cleared for days?
Took about 3 days to get roads opened up. Last one on the list
Oh ok...you reposted last years videos just edited together
Eventually the municipality will use a dozer to push the snow out into the fields. Ron
Is that a Walter truck?
Oshkosh
A few more trees might help
Vegetation next to road as a snow block . For some reason they cut it all down even on my country rd.and that's the results.
I don’t they got many trees to begin with over in that part of the country…
Farmers take out the trees left and right, not much I can do about it. I definitely agree tho
Trees too close to the road will only make this problem occur faster. They would be most effective 50 - 75 yards out in the field. But that's private property.
Where I live, the provincial government paid land owners adjacent to major road networks for permission to use a strip of property for tree growth.
It was a good program, and was greatly effective. But eventually over spray from crop dusting killed the trees. They were well established. 25 yard wide strip and 30 ft tall and went for a solid 150 km of road network. Once one owner sprayed them, others followed suit. Some still live where the land owners didn't spray then, but the majority were sprayed out.
I get it, it's private property, but some folks are jerks, and kinda don't care about anything but themselves.
The problem in the video will go on for the rest of the winter with any amount of wind. Snow blowers, plows, don't matter. The only solution is to make that area flat again with the prairie level. That would require dozers or snow cats, and a lotta reluctant landowner right of entry permission.
These situations are attached with large costs. Generally isolated locations, and by the crunch of that snow, I'd say it's -20 ~ -25 C. It's going to be hard on equipment. Which is probably why you see an old tank of a grader that's constructed properly for the task.
You guys need a big ass snowblower truck or frontend loader instead of playin hit the wall of snow lol 🎅
Problem is ,it takes a big ass pile of money to buy a big ass snowblower, many of these small municipalities don't have that big ass pile of money so they do with what they have.
Or a Tank or Dozer.
But every farm has a 300hp John Deere or New Holland with a twin auger blower. Why not contract out to a few of those guys?
Insurances and liabilities makes it a little difficult to work with farmers. The cost of insurance for snow removal equipment is very costly. That and a lot of farmers are just flat out not interested.
thats when u bring in a dozer or excavator 😂
If only I had the money for that 😂
they are fighting their own initial bad plow job!!
Correct when the township opened the roads the first couple times it was not winged out enough and it just built up had nowhere to go
Don`t look to me like someone prepped the truck for the conditions.
Need "traction for action" ruclips.net/video/Y-KGQhHLuVI/видео.html