1.1. billion views?! Netflix will change nothing. They're probably looking for another Tyler right now. He'll be a real Prison Bae too. Not a Sherpa like Tyler. This is light work for Netflix
DFW he did explain in why he didn’t push back the way others wanted him to. He also mentioned that he asked certain questions multiple times when he knew he was lying just to see each response and we all saw Lie-lar just deflected.
I'm so glad Tyler ran his mouth. Once the outrage wears down and no one else wants to talk to Ashley or Tyler, the marriage will be over. Then they both will do another hobo tour to tell the story of their breakup...🙄Over both of them
The kids may not be emotionally or physically safe with a suicidal abusiver. It was brought up that both Tyler and Bri mentioned suicide. Issues of depression on both sides exist also in this case. These children need much prayer and support to secure their safety and sanity.
Latteras was shielding him, he was providing excuses for him when it wasn’t needed, he was talking about his frontal lobe just closing so he didn’t know what he’s doing and him being understanding him being able to cut his kids off because he’s had trauma.
I agree with John, had Lateras armed himself with the relevant information, Tyler would not have been able to lie or skirt his way out of answering direct questions. He could still lie but at least it would be an absolute lie and not a confused response.
He didn’t intend to be in those kids lives. If Bri never divorced, he wouldn’t have been asked to be a father figure. Women get called “brave” for giving up their babies to other ppl & never pay support. As trash as it is, men have the right to opt-out also. All of this could’ve been avoided in Bri & her wife collected Tyler’s sperm through a clinic. They all equally share the blame IMO.
I’ve always thought the interview with the ex-wife was a bad idea it didn’t even help to incriminate Tyler imo it was just there for the tea but all she did was muddy the water for no reason because all she did was add her opinion that some are using as fact.
This situation is way beyond comprehension at this point. Too messy. Too many nuances. Tyler at the end of the day made some really stupid decisions and couldn’t live up to the obligation he set for himself. End of story. The rest is just noise. He is the only one at the end of the day who knows his actions and intentions throughout all of this. If Ashley wants to stick around, that’s on her. But someone who constantly lies is never going to accept accountability while actively lying. Looking for that to happen is pointless. Prayers for those children and that’s where it ends for me.
Tyler is disordered, and I mean antisocial personality level disordered. He moves like a sociopath. Now I can't diagnose him, but all sociopaths don't kill people. It's not the acts he's committed alone that makes me think this. It's the pathological lying, lack of remorse, callousness, ability to disconnect emotionally, lack of empathy, and the trail of destruction he has behind him. It's very disturbing.
Totally agree. He’s pathologically lied and conned several women. He’s so disconnected that he thought he could go on tv and get married and no one would say anything. He has 3 whole children and women he’s swindled and he’s acting like it’s never happened. And he has someone trying to protect him so he believes it’s right.
Another Round mentioned why Jess and Rikki didn’t speak about Bri alleged physical abuse is insane to me. The focus is about the kids. Anything outside of that doesn’t take first priority. Letteras said he usually don’t do research on his guests but he did 30% of the research??? I thought he didn’t do research? If you’re going to interview someone, you should always have the facts with you to be able to have a thorough interview. I’m with John on that one.
Ageeed! Can we get off the abuse angle please LBB? It’s seeming like they want the tea about every aspect of these ppls lives (who did not go on the show) as opposed to staying on topic.
Most don't want to talk about the abuse because it's a woman who is an abuser. Many are triggered because they are mad at their deadbeat fathers and baby daddies so they only want to see Tyler as the villain. There can be more than one villain in a story...
@@LittleBlackBook91some people are trying to draw out the drama and make a soap opera out of it by adding more storylines. However, the abuse from Bri is not the storyline at hand.
If its about the kids and He won in court that he would take care of his kids over D'Shon... court to court he has no case to get out of child support. Cairo may be hearing this at school, thats the saddest part
That DFW interview was terrible!! The lies! The lies!! Those twins were conceived the old fashioned way! "Tyler/Lyler" got away with a lot in this "interview."
Concerning the Daeshon quitting situation, she had no choice but to quit. She held no real claim to the firstborn, yes she signed a birth certificate, and yes she was married to the mother, but she had no true claim. Had she and Bri went the legal way with the sperm donation ( by legal I mean actually all 3 of you going to the clinic, Tyler does his business of donating, actually signing legal paper, making Tyler sign a paper where he is giving up all parental rights), Daeshon would have had a better chance at fighting joint custody because she would of have supporting paperwork. But no, they did it the messy way, and she knew it was futile to fight. Tyler was already trying to slowly include himself into their lives, and it didn't help that Bri was secretly infatuated with Tyler, so Daeshon basically said 'you can have each other, I'm not staying for this mess'.
The legal way has nothing to do with the clinic portion, but yes with an actual agreement to waive parental rights. That agreement can be reached outside of all “clinics” or sperm banks.
This Easton guy always seems to derail the conversation, and this isn’t the first time. It’s as if he wants to argue an opposing view for the sake of arguing, and it proves to be quite frustrating for your audience and obviously for your panelist. There was so much to get through in that interview, and we stuck on points that were immaterial to the basis of the conversation. It’s quite annoying. Bc I really wanted to hear the various perspectives on the other points of the DFW interview.
I absolutely agree @Dearfuturewifey should've pushed back more. I understand he was not trying to attack Tyler the liar, but Lateress didn't really hold him accountable 😕
This USA season overrided the craziness of what happened on LIB Mexico, the misogyny on LIB Habibi and whats going on on LIB Argentina which all aired during the same time
Okay but y'all don't have common sense? The abuse was never the vocal point of our issue with Tyler. It doesn't add anything to Tyler being a dead beat lmao. Like how does that not enter y'!alls head?? Jessi and Rikki are not hear to play court about a domestic violence issue far outside of their field. Jessi acknowledged the abuse and moved the f on because it's completely unnecessary to the points made!!!
So what was the point in interviewing the ex wife ?? .. and calling him out for being a dead beat ( which he is) does not mean the other adults around these kids should not also be held accountable..
@@ShaylasetBecause she was a large part of the story regarding the son and the donor sperm, which the one point he’s using to conflate with the other issues. That’s why she was interviewed. She was a part of that narrative and that interview stayed largely on that issue.
Thanks for pointing out right at the beginning the double standards of Jessie Woo. It was really annoying watching them attack and accuse DFW even though he kept explaining his approach. Actually I can accept that from him as that is always his style. But they pick and choose who they want to interrogate and who they let off easy.
@@lovejoy1452 DFW just chose to be the more mature person when he came up, Jessie and Ricky even tried to make him seem crazy for pointing out that they're attacking him for even talking to Tyler. Now I am not defending Tyler by any means, I can barely hear him soeak anymore, but Jessie has not room to speak. She had zero pushback against Bri even after the ex wife came with the allegations.
Two key things, Tylers parents!! His dad was allowed to get way with not being around and assuming not paying child support!! So Tyler wants the same thing!! He doesn’t want to be around “those kids”!! Monkey see monkey do!! His Mother went through Tylers father not paying child support or being around so Tyler thinks Bri should be the same way!! That she should keep quiet and get on with “that family!” I clocked him say that’s what my mum did!! He and Ashley need serious therapy and prayers breaking generational curses.!!! G Ashley please keep him off the streets so another woman doesn’t have to go through this!
The reason why the DV wasn't focused on is b/c it is known that there is DV in same-sex relationships but people don't take it as seriously b/c some feel its equal. Not all states consider DV child abuse (though we know it should be considered). Even in states that do they don't always remove kids from the abuser if they haven't done anything to the kids directly. I've worked in both types of states.
Jessie Woo also revealed that she has evidence from Bri with bruises as well. The situation with abuse may have been mutual and she didn’t want to divert from Tyler getting on a show and lying about his children.
Thank you Jai…..Tyler does not need grace and the ex-wife does not deserve the same smoke as Tyler. How on earth are they similar. Younger people may not do well with rebuking because that’s what it is. It’s not shaming it’s rebuking and they need that. They need both rebuking and compassion. It can’t be one or the other…
It was a Gender Reveal. DFW platform he co-signed and agreed with what Tyler was saying. All Tyler did was reversed everything Bri her Mim & her ex said about him. DFW kept interjecting his own family history. The interview was ALL over the place. Why would Tyler want to have children with Bri if she was abusive? The ex wife said Bri tried to unalive her & I think if that was true she would have had reason to have custody of the son. The ex also said she continued to talk to Bri. Was there a police report? I believe Bri was aggressive with her ex she gave some accounts of that but she would need to prove she called police & reported this. The ex also said she was struggling with mental health issues. They live in different States you can’t assume why she was fighting for full custody. Sometime a it’s out of anger or maybe because they lived in different States. The 19:06 ex also said Bri was never abusive to the kids. It’s worth exploring for sure. Agreed Bri during all of this is raising 3 young children. They seem happy & healthy.
This one man is completely growing because of these platform and nothing is going to change. He is like 69% of father's who did not or have not ever took care of there kids and some who did and stop after meeting or being with another women. This has been going on all of life......and it maybe always this way. We would like to have it that......father's will be there for there kids always....just like we would like for racism to stop. I agree with all of you on here and all had good input and thoughts.
Once somebody says they were abused n almost unalived…can their judgement on how that person treats kids be taken into account? Would u want kids around the person who try unalive u
I started out agreeing with the 44 year old man and ended up completely annoyed by him. He can’t be wrong in anything. He was completely wrong about paternity law. Watching 5 episodes of paternity court would’ve showed him they were right. Easton, east wing whatever …got on my last nerve too. Sounds like he has a deadbeat brother or something. This live was so annoying in the last hour because those 2 just wanted to be right so bad and were loud and wrong
Katt Williams said, "we don't know why liars lie" Overall I pray oneday they all make it right for the children ❤ I am curious as to how Ashley will move after this, because the lies were clear 🤦♀️ It wasn't the perfect interview, but he did the interview very well based on his knowledge. He was even vulnerable to open up the space for Tyler to feel safe and tell the truth, but he didn't forbthe most part.
I keep hearing this thing that Tyler has been evicted seven times. I live in the DMV ain’t nobody that’s been evicted 7 times getting an apartment. They’re not gonna rent to you again. So what I think happened was in the DMV when you’re late on your rent , the landlord will file for an eviction. If the person pays it before the eviction happens they drop the court case. There is no way this man was evicted seven times and still was getting places. Just trust me they’re not doing that here in the DMV. He would be denied. He was up for eviction seven times. And it must have been paid before and the case was dropped. And he continued to live in that same place. There’s no way those are seven different evictions from seven different places.
There is no way Tyler was going to be truthful with a live court case owing child support. If he says they were conceived naturally, he better make sure his account has money to back date what is owed and continue paying.
Please ask again! And I said the same thing, because how is he talking about leading with compassion towards 2 deadbeats after all this information and receipts have come out?🤷🏾♀️ I just went and unfollowed both Lyler and his bird 🐦 … because there’s no way we are letting them off the hook . Their feet should be hold to the fire until forever 🗣️
I want someone to ask Ashley if shes sorry she pressed to have this point put on air. If he wanted to protect these kids she should have respected it so these kids pix wouldnt b all over.
As far as Bri being abusive and ppl not asking questions. Not saying it’s ok but we all know there is a double standard. People don’t fell the need to question a woman for not only being abusive because ppl don’t even take domestic violence for women seriously. But also there is the thought that women typically won’t harm their kids. Even though we know some do
Primetimeindy is wrong. The ex wife didn't agree with anything. Bri was abusive and forced the issue for Tyler to be the father and bullied her and did what she wanted. The ex wife accepted the child once he got here. And then Bri conspired with Tyler to take their son.
I actually understand aqua shirt's point about holding Deshawn responsible or any parent in that predicament; isnt that why sherry shepherd pays child support to her ex husband, the embryo doesn't have her DNA, only the husbands but shes legally responsible. This scenario has an added layer only because Tyler is in the picture but if the donor was anonymous, De Shawn would have had a stronger case.
I almost miss this what Mr. Kojo, said what I mention to my sister and she was like he's a lier and I said ok why people acting like it's about the kids....when those kids might be getting abused in their own life on and of the internet......
We didn’t need to see the interview to confirm that Tyler is deceptive & irresponsible. Unfortunately for him, he is not nearly as deceptive & cunning as Bri. Bri manipulated him & got the kids SHE wanted in the way that SHE wanted with the man SHE wanted without any regard for the psychological, emotional, physical, & financial impact that her actions would have on him, her children, Daeshon, or anyone who has what she wants. Now, she can sit back & wait to collect money for child support and the donations that people are giving her because they believe that she is the poor innocent victim of a deadbeat father who is her best friend that she recruited to join her in her escapades. In the meantime, many people are so busy holding Tyler accountable for his misdeeds that they don’t see her laughing about how she played them.
Yes. Even in the interviews it was clear that Bri was allegedly physically and emotionally abusive. And able to manipulate folks. Tyler should 100% be held accountable but I don’t like how much support Bri is getting. She’s an abuser. He’s an emotional abuser and pathological liar. They were friends for a reason. Bri is not a hero. And Daeshon alleged that Bri was abusive in multiple relationships. He should pay child support and she should probably lose her military appts.
Why does John always do this? He always talks a good game but then when he someone says something that triggers him or challenges a view point that he personalises, he becomes combative. You accused Sean of cutting you off when in fact you were cutting him off! And then you kept cutting him off when he was making a point that you in fact agreed with. John, you said you would tell your boys girl if you saw her as sis that your boy was cheating on her because you see her as sis so your boy can’t come at you with all that. Then you said even at 25, you were the guy even if drunk would ask his boys why y’all cheating on your women. You were that guy. Then Sean replied cmon really? And asked if you told your boys women I that they were cheating and you said at 25, no. So he was making the point that Ceeway made that you knew they were cheating and didn’t say anything to the women ergo you covered for them even though you didn’t agree with their actions. That’s not a condemnation, that’s the truth and we have all done it. Doesn’t make you any less or more. Of course at your age now that different but you were the one that brought up 25. It was very clear that Ceeway meant in the lifespan so when you brought up 25, it was all game. Then you call it good dialogue but you were cutting Ceeway and Sean off to get your point across which wasn’t pertinent to the point that Ceeway made which Sean addressed really well. John makes great points and I like his commentary but at times what is termed as passion can be combative (I know we are not supposed to use that word) because to say Sean was “effin wrong” and he will look “stupid when you talk”I’m sorry that’s not necessary! Much love respectfully
I dont think its fair to assume that Daeshon is a liar or not telling the full truth about the abuse based on the custody. She did file for FULL custody of the first child and tried to bring him back with her to California. Joint custody involved flying a toddler back and forth across the country. If we're interrogating parenting decisions, we have to consider choices in the best interest of the child, not just what would be most logical (i.e. keep the kid from the mother who abused her wife). Also, Bri has taken Tyler to court for child support years ago. Thats how we have seen multiple podcasters like Jessie Woo bring up evidence of him owing 30k in child support. Last point, I only think the ex wife is relevant to give context about the first child's parentage and what was discussed when Tyler first became a "donor dad" 15:14
I didn’t feel good about Tyler before he did the interview. I felt worse about him after he did the interview. But I don’t blame the host for conducting the interview in the way he conducts all his interviews, and with the same purpose, which is to see if the person can be redeemed. Just because Tyler couldn’t, doesn’t mean it’s his fault. Him pushing Tyler wasn’t going to change the outcome. Tyler would’ve still double down and lied, but we got a lot more insight into Tyler because he felt comfortable in that space and it’s actually worse than we even knew it to be. Which is shocking because it was already so bad. Smh
KOJO, my prayer for Tyler is to confess and repent in the name of Jesus Christ. To consecrate himself and accept Jesus as his Loving Lord. Holy Spirit, saturate him with Your truth as promised in Your Word. I Pray for him, his wife and the kids.
True but it doesn't mean they won't either... and I'm some cases it's vice versa where they will abuse the child and not the partner... but if we are to say this about the kids well our for this to assess is the safety of the child in this case children...
That was a terrible interview!! The lies! The lies!! Those twins were conceived the old fashioned way! "Tyler/Lyler" got away with a lot in this "interview."
If you want to fixe this epidemic of men walking from their and them also being push away by mothers you need to hold both accountable society has to be taught that having a baby with someone it’s actually worst that marrying and divorcing that person meaning 50/50 custody don’t care if it will affect the fathers career or the mother you lay down and your kids deserve to spend equal time with both parents so it also mean the parents shouldn’t be allowed to move in another state if they not going to have the opportunity to take their kid 50% or the time. If the 50/50 isn’t respected by a parent you should be liable for a fine and possible risk of prison men should understand the pain of missing in their careers or else because they have multiple baby mamas. That means if your kid spends 1 week with the father the next week she/he is with the mother and you can’t bind your way out of it. Also I believe every states should communicate together meaning if a parent tries to run to another state an alert for not respecting his obligation must be know everywhere forcing him to jailed and paying again the states let those pockets 🩸 for money. A woman who refuses to give the kids without proper proof of danger should be jailed too because for 18 years you will have to deal with this man that’s the choice you made when you lay down with him. Let it be your nightmare.
And if you are a dead beat after a certain number of children un assume you should be found and irreversible vasectomy you should be given same for women too many kids with too many baby daddies you should be sterilized especially if those fathers are deadbeats and you need the state to help you raise them
1:57:33 started the smoke session going off the rails. Seeing "John the Baptist" get sniped off of his self-proclaimed "High Horse" by the panel was the highlight well worth the wait. Another example of why speaking in absolutes is rarely appropriate. The Shawn v John spar was a battle the LBB91 world didn't know they needed
@ Imagine being a 44 year old man who is so emotionally unregulated that he would allow his logic to become so delusional as to think another man who likely is better at life than he, would follow him anywhere. Raise your discernment frequency black man. You are worthy of redemption.
For the record Sir John… I found your channel from this channel (TLBB91). I gave you a shot at providing me free entertaining or educational content to be viewed at my leisure. Specifically, on this very topic of interest discussed on the panel. I honestly did not enjoy your ideological presentations very much and I provided feedback as I often do in practice of my engagement consumer rights. I do not know you personally. I am a fan of no man. You are nothing more than a character on a device used for my personal entertainment or educational purposes. You however, failed to deliver in both regards for the most part as opined by me specifically. I was unaware of any blocking nor did my life have any negative impact as a result. Your point therefore is moot and further highlights the delusions of grandeur you have for yourself. Nonetheless, well wishes to you on your content creation journey. You will not be missed by me.
To be fair, Cway you can't change up your statement because it didn't apply to John. Cway and Shawn display how they chose not to have morals. We need everyone as passionate about this as John was instead of making these assumptions that this is normal and assume that everyone experience the same situations as you and Shawn. Then when you said you want to make a case for John because he didn't fit your narrative and kept pushing it because you wanted to push it. You can't then say "let it slide" but you kept pushing more examples
20:13 The idea that ppl are triggered because they are constantly reminded of men having the option to walk away and disown children is telling and simply biased in favor of females perspective without much regard to the man’s POV. It’s a nuanced social/moral dilemma. Fact: Bri called the twins mistakes. Fact: Both Bri and Ty seemingly admitted to the fact that they were set to abort the “mistake”. Fact: Bri exercised her own pro choice rights (likely against the better judgement of the biological sperm donor… aka Ty) and decided to give birth after seeing she was carrying twins. Her body, her choice right? Why is it ok for the women to choose whether she can be a parent and not the man? Dave Chapelle made a point about this in a comedic way. If a woman has the sole choice whether she brings a child to term (because it’s her body) A man should at least have the choice to abandon it. Im speaking from a non bias general POV.
All of that would be true if Tyler stayed gone. He jumped in and out of the kids lives. Unacceptable. If he truly wanted no parts of their lives, don't sign the birth certificate, sign away paternity rights and legally disown them. He didn't do that so we are where we are. 🤷🏿♀️
Please get Married10 years on this same exact panel. I’d even join for free just to show you what a bit more logic based presentments would add to your overall content. So much personal emotional/absolute rambling (especially from John) diluting the main ideas creates low frequency messaging in my humble opinion.
@@dahliaherrod4301 the primary logical point would be simply exploring the main idea of the social issue at hand without the S.I.G.N language or absolute speak which leads to suggest a subjective opinion is actually a truth. Another logical point would be highlighting the blatant hypocrisy of ppl seemingly seeking condemnation of another person as if they are morally superior in life. Do you care for elaboration?
Why are you so focused on Bri? Using her as a scapegoat to excuse tyler isnt cool. The abuse went both ways jessie already said that, Tyler went on a show and lied not bri.
@@LittleBlackBook91I feel like you fell for Tyler’s deflection tactics. If Bri’s abuse was so bad, why did Tyler back her during the custody battle? Why would he continue to sleep with her. There could be more to this story about the abuse but it isn’t relevant to the overall narrative.
Tyler is a deadbeat 110% glad Bri is taking him to court , but why are people not holding Bri accountable for her part ? .. the minute people hold the other adults involved people get accused of being on Tyler’s side which is incorrect
@@Shaylasetno one is not holding her accountable BUT why would he need to mention her abusive behavior when he turn around and slept with her and agreed not to abort the kids. Like not donating then played house with her. So the DV didn’t matter to him, so it’s up to her ex wife to hold her accountable.
1.1. billion views?! Netflix will change nothing. They're probably looking for another Tyler right now. He'll be a real Prison Bae too. Not a Sherpa like Tyler. This is light work for Netflix
Sadly…. You’re correct 😢
Facts, I always knew Netflix was aware of Tyler’s situation
Tyler doesn’t want to fight for them kids as he doesn’t want any responsibilities. He’s a grown boy. He only wants to be taken care of. What a mess.
You guys all made suuuuch great points!! This was an amazing panel and you ALL brought the most important points to the forefront! Thank you!
Maybe DFW is more like Club Shay Shay where he has a conversation rather than digging to the truth.
Even Shannon pushes back on this to that make absolutely no sense and that he facts which contradict. So this is a false equivalency.
DFW he did explain in why he didn’t push back the way others wanted him to. He also mentioned that he asked certain questions multiple times when he knew he was lying just to see each response and we all saw Lie-lar just deflected.
@@Dani84409and told him it was a safe space and introduced him as his "brother". I wouldnt trust anything from that guy.
@@Dani84409 Bingo!
I'm so glad Tyler ran his mouth. Once the outrage wears down and no one else wants to talk to Ashley or Tyler, the marriage will be over. Then they both will do another hobo tour to tell the story of their breakup...🙄Over both of them
Ashley isn’t going anywhere. She’s okay with the situation.
💯📌💯📌💯💯
...if men wont hold other men accountable, who will?
God
@@NomadicRoyals
AMEN🙏🏿
Right what’s the point of the convo and supposed healing if things get swept under the rug
The kids may not be emotionally or physically safe with a suicidal abusiver.
It was brought up that both Tyler and Bri mentioned suicide. Issues of depression on both sides exist also in this case. These children need much prayer and support to secure their safety and sanity.
Which is what is a real conversation about the kids needing safety.
Latteras was shielding him, he was providing excuses for him when it wasn’t needed, he was talking about his frontal lobe just closing so he didn’t know what he’s doing and him being understanding him being able to cut his kids off because he’s had trauma.
The ex wife made it very clear that bre was never abusive to her daughter so she believed kairo is in good hands. But you have a point
Kojo keep them accountable!
I agree with John, had Lateras armed himself with the relevant information, Tyler would not have been able to lie or skirt his way out of answering direct questions. He could still lie but at least it would be an absolute lie and not a confused response.
I’m sorry but that guy preaching “compassion” for a dead beat is annoying me!
Amen. Compassion for a degenerate liar, hell no
He didn’t intend to be in those kids lives. If Bri never divorced, he wouldn’t have been asked to be a father figure. Women get called “brave” for giving up their babies to other ppl & never pay support. As trash as it is, men have the right to opt-out also.
All of this could’ve been avoided in Bri & her wife collected Tyler’s sperm through a clinic. They all equally share the blame IMO.
@@missjoy6685 girl what??!?!? You know what, I’m not even going to bother!
Craziest 💩 ever!!!!
@@missjoy6685you know he banged her, right ?😂
My father was abusive towards my mother but he never laid a hand on me or my sister. So there is many layers to this story.
He may not have done but we can’t risk that. If someone had told authorities it don’t matter if he don’t abuse kids he abused the mum.
The ex wife was absolutely apart of the story.
I’ve always thought the interview with the ex-wife was a bad idea it didn’t even help to incriminate Tyler imo it was just there for the tea but all she did was muddy the water for no reason because all she did was add her opinion that some are using as fact.
This situation is way beyond comprehension at this point. Too messy. Too many nuances. Tyler at the end of the day made some really stupid decisions and couldn’t live up to the obligation he set for himself. End of story. The rest is just noise. He is the only one at the end of the day who knows his actions and intentions throughout all of this. If Ashley wants to stick around, that’s on her. But someone who constantly lies is never going to accept accountability while actively lying. Looking for that to happen is pointless. Prayers for those children and that’s where it ends for me.
Tyler is disordered, and I mean antisocial personality level disordered. He moves like a sociopath. Now I can't diagnose him, but all sociopaths don't kill people. It's not the acts he's committed alone that makes me think this. It's the pathological lying, lack of remorse, callousness, ability to disconnect emotionally, lack of empathy, and the trail of destruction he has behind him. It's very disturbing.
Totally agree. He’s pathologically lied and conned several women. He’s so disconnected that he thought he could go on tv and get married and no one would say anything. He has 3 whole children and women he’s swindled and he’s acting like it’s never happened. And he has someone trying to protect him so he believes it’s right.
Great dialogue 👌
Another Round mentioned why Jess and Rikki didn’t speak about Bri alleged physical abuse is insane to me. The focus is about the kids. Anything outside of that doesn’t take first priority. Letteras said he usually don’t do research on his guests but he did 30% of the research??? I thought he didn’t do research? If you’re going to interview someone, you should always have the facts with you to be able to have a thorough interview. I’m with John on that one.
Maybe there is no proof. The ex also said she continued talking to Bri. She also said she had some mental health issues.
Ageeed! Can we get off the abuse angle please LBB? It’s seeming like they want the tea about every aspect of these ppls lives (who did not go on the show) as opposed to staying on topic.
@reneerobinson7181 why?
Most don't want to talk about the abuse because it's a woman who is an abuser. Many are triggered because they are mad at their deadbeat fathers and baby daddies so they only want to see Tyler as the villain. There can be more than one villain in a story...
@@LittleBlackBook91some people are trying to draw out the drama and make a soap opera out of it by adding more storylines. However, the abuse from Bri is not the storyline at hand.
If its about the kids and He won in court that he would take care of his kids over D'Shon... court to court he has no case to get out of child support. Cairo may be hearing this at school, thats the saddest part
These kids will probably need to change schools unfortunately
That DFW interview was terrible!! The lies! The lies!! Those twins were conceived the old fashioned way! "Tyler/Lyler" got away with a lot in this "interview."
Honestly yall helping these kids get justice either way. They went take long in court to make a decision with all this info
Concerning the Daeshon quitting situation, she had no choice but to quit. She held no real claim to the firstborn, yes she signed a birth certificate, and yes she was married to the mother, but she had no true claim. Had she and Bri went the legal way with the sperm donation ( by legal I mean actually all 3 of you going to the clinic, Tyler does his business of donating, actually signing legal paper, making Tyler sign a paper where he is giving up all parental rights), Daeshon would have had a better chance at fighting joint custody because she would of have supporting paperwork. But no, they did it the messy way, and she knew it was futile to fight. Tyler was already trying to slowly include himself into their lives, and it didn't help that Bri was secretly infatuated with Tyler, so Daeshon basically said 'you can have each other, I'm not staying for this mess'.
The legal way has nothing to do with the clinic portion, but yes with an actual agreement to waive parental rights. That agreement can be reached outside of all “clinics” or sperm banks.
This Easton guy always seems to derail the conversation, and this isn’t the first time. It’s as if he wants to argue an opposing view for the sake of arguing, and it proves to be quite frustrating for your audience and obviously for your panelist. There was so much to get through in that interview, and we stuck on points that were immaterial to the basis of the conversation. It’s quite annoying. Bc I really wanted to hear the various perspectives on the other points of the DFW interview.
I absolutely agree @Dearfuturewifey should've pushed back more. I understand he was not trying to attack Tyler the liar, but Lateress didn't really hold him accountable 😕
Babyyyyy!!!!! At 1:15:00-1:17:00Shawn gave me Goosebumps!!!!!! 4+4=8!!!!
Mad I missed it live
Ya... a light bulb went off for me too here
This composite bonding is defiinitely doing something for you ❤
This USA season overrided the craziness of what happened on LIB Mexico, the misogyny on LIB Habibi and whats going on on LIB Argentina which all aired during the same time
@@alyssiab. Totally forgot Argentina aired
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 can always count on this channel to spit truth!
Okay but y'all don't have common sense? The abuse was never the vocal point of our issue with Tyler. It doesn't add anything to Tyler being a dead beat lmao. Like how does that not enter y'!alls head?? Jessi and Rikki are not hear to play court about a domestic violence issue far outside of their field. Jessi acknowledged the abuse and moved the f on because it's completely unnecessary to the points made!!!
So what was the point in interviewing the ex wife ?? .. and calling him out for being a dead beat ( which he is) does not mean the other adults around these kids should not also be held accountable..
@@Shaylaset THIS!!!!!
@@ShaylasetBecause she was a large part of the story regarding the son and the donor sperm, which the one point he’s using to conflate with the other issues. That’s why she was interviewed. She was a part of that narrative and that interview stayed largely on that issue.
@shaylaset thank you. I feel like I’m going mad with this one lol 😂.
@@JayceMcKenzie thank you!
If I ever need representation, I'm checking for Seeway!
Thanks for pointing out right at the beginning the double standards of Jessie Woo. It was really annoying watching them attack and accuse DFW even though he kept explaining his approach. Actually I can accept that from him as that is always his style. But they pick and choose who they want to interrogate and who they let off easy.
I can't stand her. She's rude & abrasive.
She does too much, and was being disrespectful.
@@Zuzu-go1vemind she was talking crazy about him before he actually got on the live.
@@lovejoy1452 DFW just chose to be the more mature person when he came up, Jessie and Ricky even tried to make him seem crazy for pointing out that they're attacking him for even talking to Tyler. Now I am not defending Tyler by any means, I can barely hear him soeak anymore, but Jessie has not room to speak. She had zero pushback against Bri even after the ex wife came with the allegations.
@@reliza93 Yup, and everything is about race.
Two key things, Tylers parents!! His dad was allowed to get way with not being around and assuming not paying child support!! So Tyler wants the same thing!! He doesn’t want to be around “those kids”!! Monkey see monkey do!!
His Mother went through Tylers father not paying child support or being around so Tyler thinks Bri should be the same way!! That she should keep quiet and get on with “that family!”
I clocked him say that’s what my mum did!! He and Ashley need serious therapy and prayers breaking generational curses.!!! G
Ashley please keep him off the streets so another woman doesn’t have to go through this!
The reason why the DV wasn't focused on is b/c it is known that there is DV in same-sex relationships but people don't take it as seriously b/c some feel its equal. Not all states consider DV child abuse (though we know it should be considered). Even in states that do they don't always remove kids from the abuser if they haven't done anything to the kids directly. I've worked in both types of states.
Jessie Woo also revealed that she has evidence from Bri with bruises as well. The situation with abuse may have been mutual and she didn’t want to divert from Tyler getting on a show and lying about his children.
Thank you Jai…..Tyler does not need grace and the ex-wife does not deserve the same smoke as Tyler. How on earth are they similar. Younger people may not do well with rebuking because that’s what it is. It’s not shaming it’s rebuking and they need that. They need both rebuking and compassion. It can’t be one or the other…
No thank you because I got to rebuke all Easton thoughts on giving tyler grace... Tyler's grace period is up baby!!!!! Lol
It was a Gender Reveal. DFW platform he co-signed and agreed with what Tyler was saying. All Tyler did was reversed everything Bri her Mim & her ex said about him. DFW kept interjecting his own family history. The interview was ALL over the place.
Why would Tyler want to have children with Bri if she was abusive? The ex wife said Bri tried to unalive her & I think if that was true she would have had reason to have custody of the son. The ex also said she continued to talk to Bri. Was there a police report? I believe Bri was aggressive with her ex she gave some accounts of that but she would need to prove she called police & reported this. The ex also said she was struggling with mental health issues.
They live in different States you can’t assume why she was fighting for full custody. Sometime a it’s out of anger or maybe because they lived in different States. The 19:06 ex also said Bri was never abusive to the kids. It’s worth exploring for sure.
Agreed Bri during all of this is raising 3 young children. They seem happy & healthy.
This one man is completely growing because of these platform and nothing is going to change. He is like 69% of father's who did not or have not ever took care of there kids and some who did and stop after meeting or being with another women. This has been going on all of life......and it maybe always this way. We would like to have it that......father's will be there for there kids always....just like we would like for racism to stop. I agree with all of you on here and all had good input and thoughts.
If you can't ignore what DaeShon said then don't ignore that she said that her son was safe with Bri as a mom Bri was just a horrible partner
Once somebody says they were abused n almost unalived…can their judgement on how that person treats kids be taken into account? Would u want kids around the person who try unalive u
I started out agreeing with the 44 year old man and ended up completely annoyed by him. He can’t be wrong in anything. He was completely wrong about paternity law. Watching 5 episodes of paternity court would’ve showed him they were right. Easton, east wing whatever …got on my last nerve too. Sounds like he has a deadbeat brother or something. This live was so annoying in the last hour because those 2 just wanted to be right so bad and were loud and wrong
This the comment 😂😂😂😂😂
2:46:37 OMG. Why so wild? I am not used to internal vitriol on Kojo’s platform. This makes me miss the old days with the Fab 4 OGs. 😢
Same same
Katt Williams said, "we don't know why liars lie" Overall I pray oneday they all make it right for the children ❤ I am curious as to how Ashley will move after this, because the lies were clear 🤦♀️
It wasn't the perfect interview, but he did the interview very well based on his knowledge. He was even vulnerable to open up the space for Tyler to feel safe and tell the truth, but he didn't forbthe most part.
Basically, Ashliar is sticking by her man per her insta-stories that StorytimewithRikki read while on Jessie Woo's live
Whew this mess is hard to follow. Do we know if either Tyler or Bri's story has been proven? I hear lies in both of their stories.
Correct.... we really have no idea
@@thecoincollector1684 this is so bad in so many ways. Smh
They both lying on each other while covering the other it's wild
I agree jessie n rickey were going after the host like he owed them money
Ya
They are way to invested.
@lovejoy1452 WAAAAAYYYYY
Crazy day -was tight how people were coming at u in the live.
I keep hearing this thing that Tyler has been evicted seven times. I live in the DMV ain’t nobody that’s been evicted 7 times getting an apartment. They’re not gonna rent to you again. So what I think happened was in the DMV when you’re late on your rent , the landlord will file for an eviction. If the person pays it before the eviction happens they drop the court case. There is no way this man was evicted seven times and still was getting places. Just trust me they’re not doing that here in the DMV. He would be denied. He was up for eviction seven times. And it must have been paid before and the case was dropped. And he continued to live in that same place. There’s no way those are seven different evictions from seven different places.
There is no way Tyler was going to be truthful with a live court case owing child support. If he says they were conceived naturally, he better make sure his account has money to back date what is owed and continue paying.
Birds of a feather flock together
Who is @primetimeindy bc no SIR & no MA AM . I can’t not 🤦🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️
Please ask again! And I said the same thing, because how is he talking about leading with compassion towards 2 deadbeats after all this information and receipts have come out?🤷🏾♀️ I just went and unfollowed both Lyler and his bird 🐦 … because there’s no way we are letting them off the hook . Their feet should be hold to the fire until forever 🗣️
Remember the ex wife said Bre filed for full custody first and then she filed for full custody
I want someone to ask Ashley if shes sorry she pressed to have this point put on air. If he wanted to protect these kids she should have respected it so these kids pix wouldnt b all over.
John is wrong.
I love Ceeway!!!! I resonate with a lot of what she says.
Yes!! She’s the truth.
❤❤❤
As far as Bri being abusive and ppl not asking questions. Not saying it’s ok but we all know there is a double standard. People don’t fell the need to question a woman for not only being abusive because ppl don’t even take domestic violence for women seriously. But also there is the thought that women typically won’t harm their kids. Even though we know some do
Having dealt with some many clients motherhood abuse is so high it’s crazy.
@ 😢😢
Primetimeindy is wrong. The ex wife didn't agree with anything. Bri was abusive and forced the issue for Tyler to be the father and bullied her and did what she wanted. The ex wife accepted the child once he got here. And then Bri conspired with Tyler to take their son.
Not to mention she cheated on the ex-wife to conceive the first child
I actually understand aqua shirt's point about holding Deshawn responsible or any parent in that predicament; isnt that why sherry shepherd pays child support to her ex husband, the embryo doesn't have her DNA, only the husbands but shes legally responsible. This scenario has an added layer only because Tyler is in the picture but if the donor was anonymous, De Shawn would have had a stronger case.
11:10 this is a good point…….
I almost miss this what Mr. Kojo, said what I mention to my sister and she was like he's a lier and I said ok why people acting like it's about the kids....when those kids might be getting abused in their own life on and of the internet......
We didn’t need to see the interview to confirm that Tyler is deceptive & irresponsible. Unfortunately for him, he is not nearly as deceptive & cunning as Bri. Bri manipulated him & got the kids SHE wanted in the way that SHE wanted with the man SHE wanted without any regard for the psychological, emotional, physical, & financial impact that her actions would have on him, her children, Daeshon, or anyone who has what she wants.
Now, she can sit back & wait to collect money for child support and the donations that people are giving her because they believe that she is the poor innocent victim of a deadbeat father who is her best friend that she recruited to join her in her escapades. In the meantime, many people are so busy holding Tyler accountable for his misdeeds that they don’t see her laughing about how she played them.
Yes. Even in the interviews it was clear that Bri was allegedly physically and emotionally abusive. And able to manipulate folks. Tyler should 100% be held accountable but I don’t like how much support Bri is getting. She’s an abuser. He’s an emotional abuser and pathological liar. They were friends for a reason. Bri is not a hero. And Daeshon alleged that Bri was abusive in multiple relationships. He should pay child support and she should probably lose her military appts.
Why does John always do this? He always talks a good game but then when he someone says something that triggers him or challenges a view point that he personalises, he becomes combative. You accused Sean of cutting you off when in fact you were cutting him off! And then you kept cutting him off when he was making a point that you in fact agreed with.
John, you said you would tell your boys girl if you saw her as sis that your boy was cheating on her because you see her as sis so your boy can’t come at you with all that. Then you said even at 25, you were the guy even if drunk would ask his boys why y’all cheating on your women. You were that guy. Then Sean replied cmon really? And asked if you told your boys women I that they were cheating and you said at 25, no. So he was making the point that Ceeway made that you knew they were cheating and didn’t say anything to the women ergo you covered for them even though you didn’t agree with their actions. That’s not a condemnation, that’s the truth and we have all done it. Doesn’t make you any less or more. Of course at your age now that different but you were the one that brought up 25. It was very clear that Ceeway meant in the lifespan so when you brought up 25, it was all game.
Then you call it good dialogue but you were cutting Ceeway and Sean off to get your point across which wasn’t pertinent to the point that Ceeway made which Sean addressed really well. John makes great points and I like his commentary but at times what is termed as passion can be combative (I know we are not supposed to use that word) because to say Sean was “effin wrong” and he will look “stupid when you talk”I’m sorry that’s not necessary! Much love respectfully
I hope the spotlight stays on Bri and these kids r taken care of properly.
What is give to be in j and cways text thread behind the scenes during the live 🤣 I just know they got one .. Sean might be in the group chat too lol
I dont think its fair to assume that Daeshon is a liar or not telling the full truth about the abuse based on the custody. She did file for FULL custody of the first child and tried to bring him back with her to California. Joint custody involved flying a toddler back and forth across the country. If we're interrogating parenting decisions, we have to consider choices in the best interest of the child, not just what would be most logical (i.e. keep the kid from the mother who abused her wife). Also, Bri has taken Tyler to court for child support years ago. Thats how we have seen multiple podcasters like Jessie Woo bring up evidence of him owing 30k in child support. Last point, I only think the ex wife is relevant to give context about the first child's parentage and what was discussed when Tyler first became a "donor dad" 15:14
A lot of projection going on.
SPEAKKKKK ON IT!!!!! If its really about the kids!!! YES YES YES
Where can I view this story about “Ashely rejecting her brother's ancestry DNA test”
I didn’t feel good about Tyler before he did the interview. I felt worse about him after he did the interview. But I don’t blame the host for conducting the interview in the way he conducts all his interviews, and with the same purpose, which is to see if the person can be redeemed. Just because Tyler couldn’t, doesn’t mean it’s his fault. Him pushing Tyler wasn’t going to change the outcome. Tyler would’ve still double down and lied, but we got a lot more insight into Tyler because he felt comfortable in that space and it’s actually worse than we even knew it to be. Which is shocking because it was already so bad. Smh
KOJO, my prayer for Tyler is to confess and repent in the name of Jesus Christ. To consecrate himself and accept Jesus as his Loving Lord. Holy Spirit, saturate him with Your truth as promised in Your Word. I Pray for him, his wife and the kids.
That Primetimeindy is ridiculous
Just because an abuser abuses their partner doesn’t mean the they will abuse their child/children
True but it doesn't mean they won't either... and I'm some cases it's vice versa where they will abuse the child and not the partner... but if we are to say this about the kids well our for this to assess is the safety of the child in this case children...
I swear koj be getting more fine every time I come over here
Oooooohhhhh 1:15:40 i get it
That was a terrible interview!! The lies! The lies!! Those twins were conceived the old fashioned way! "Tyler/Lyler" got away with a lot in this "interview."
I agree, it's no longer about the kids, it's more about proving Tyler is a horrible person and excused the other parties' behavior.
Dfw is just odd i stopped watching forever ago lol
If you want to fixe this epidemic of men walking from their and them also being push away by mothers you need to hold both accountable society has to be taught that having a baby with someone it’s actually worst that marrying and divorcing that person meaning 50/50 custody don’t care if it will affect the fathers career or the mother you lay down and your kids deserve to spend equal time with both parents so it also mean the parents shouldn’t be allowed to move in another state if they not going to have the opportunity to take their kid 50% or the time. If the 50/50 isn’t respected by a parent you should be liable for a fine and possible risk of prison men should understand the pain of missing in their careers or else because they have multiple baby mamas. That means if your kid spends 1 week with the father the next week she/he is with the mother and you can’t bind your way out of it. Also I believe every states should communicate together meaning if a parent tries to run to another state an alert for not respecting his obligation must be know everywhere forcing him to jailed and paying again the states let those pockets 🩸 for money. A woman who refuses to give the kids without proper proof of danger should be jailed too because for 18 years you will have to deal with this man that’s the choice you made when you lay down with him. Let it be your nightmare.
And if you are a dead beat after a certain number of children un assume you should be found and irreversible vasectomy you should be given same for women too many kids with too many baby daddies you should be sterilized especially if those fathers are deadbeats and you need the state to help you raise them
1:57:33 started the smoke session going off the rails. Seeing "John the Baptist" get sniped off of his self-proclaimed "High Horse" by the panel was the highlight well worth the wait. Another example of why speaking in absolutes is rarely appropriate. The Shawn v John spar was a battle the LBB91 world didn't know they needed
I blocked you on my channel and you follow me here, lol?! The justifications you guys make when you love the taste 🕺🏿
@ Imagine being a 44 year old man who is so emotionally unregulated that he would allow his logic to become so delusional as to think another man who likely is better at life than he, would follow him anywhere. Raise your discernment frequency black man. You are worthy of redemption.
For the record Sir John… I found your channel from this channel (TLBB91). I gave you a shot at providing me free entertaining or educational content to be viewed at my leisure. Specifically, on this very topic of interest discussed on the panel. I honestly did not enjoy your ideological presentations very much and I provided feedback as I often do in practice of my engagement consumer rights. I do not know you personally. I am a fan of no man. You are nothing more than a character on a device used for my personal entertainment or educational purposes. You however, failed to deliver in both regards for the most part as opined by me specifically. I was unaware of any blocking nor did my life have any negative impact as a result. Your point therefore is moot and further highlights the delusions of grandeur you have for yourself. Nonetheless, well wishes to you on your content creation journey. You will not be missed by me.
44:15 … love repels demons. This was entertaining at the very least.
Wait Easton knew SK from uni/college????? 😮😮😮😮
Hmm no wonder !
Yeeesss Cway.... we shouldn't have to date around mind fields
What is this man talking about. So he’s a deadbeat apologist? I’m so confused.
SMH
To be fair, Cway you can't change up your statement because it didn't apply to John. Cway and Shawn display how they chose not to have morals. We need everyone as passionate about this as John was instead of making these assumptions that this is normal and assume that everyone experience the same situations as you and Shawn. Then when you said you want to make a case for John because he didn't fit your narrative and kept pushing it because you wanted to push it. You can't then say "let it slide" but you kept pushing more examples
20:13 The idea that ppl are triggered because they are constantly reminded of men having the option to walk away and disown children is telling and simply biased in favor of females perspective without much regard to the man’s POV. It’s a nuanced social/moral dilemma.
Fact: Bri called the twins mistakes.
Fact: Both Bri and Ty seemingly admitted to the fact that they were set to abort the “mistake”.
Fact: Bri exercised her own pro choice rights (likely against the better judgement of the biological sperm donor… aka Ty) and decided to give birth after seeing she was carrying twins. Her body, her choice right?
Why is it ok for the women to choose whether she can be a parent and not the man? Dave Chapelle made a point about this in a comedic way. If a woman has the sole choice whether she brings a child to term (because it’s her body) A man should at least have the choice to abandon it. Im speaking from a non bias general POV.
All of that would be true if Tyler stayed gone. He jumped in and out of the kids lives. Unacceptable. If he truly wanted no parts of their lives, don't sign the birth certificate, sign away paternity rights and legally disown them. He didn't do that so we are where we are. 🤷🏿♀️
All your 'facts' are actually ridiculous😂 i guess you dont understand nuance. Tyler could have had a clean doner experience. But he didnt.
Walk away but pay that child support.
@ sure. I’m personally not opposed to accountability. I just exercise my right to question the accountant. 🫡
Tyler literally asked her to not go through with the abortion after finding out they were twins, so what's your point exactly??
Please get Married10 years on this same exact panel. I’d even join for free just to show you what a bit more logic based presentments would add to your overall content. So much personal emotional/absolute rambling (especially from John) diluting the main ideas creates low frequency messaging in my humble opinion.
What are some logical points you think should be made?
She would never join this platform because she is not interested in bashing the couple 😂 especially not Ashley.
Nawh imma get her on I like married 10 years and I'm in a space of being able to handle different points of view
@@LittleBlackBook91 Rooting for you because I know she also watches you 🤗
@@dahliaherrod4301 the primary logical point would be simply exploring the main idea of the social issue at hand without the S.I.G.N language or absolute speak which leads to suggest a subjective opinion is actually a truth. Another logical point would be highlighting the blatant hypocrisy of ppl seemingly seeking condemnation of another person as if they are morally superior in life. Do you care for elaboration?
So judgemental. Are you birds? Have you ever been birds? Is someone close to you a bird? The internet is wild.
Why are you so focused on Bri? Using her as a scapegoat to excuse tyler isnt cool. The abuse went both ways jessie already said that, Tyler went on a show and lied not bri.
When did they establish the abuse was both ways when the ex wife said it was one way?
@@LittleBlackBook91I feel like you fell for Tyler’s deflection tactics. If Bri’s abuse was so bad, why did Tyler back her during the custody battle? Why would he continue to sleep with her. There could be more to this story about the abuse but it isn’t relevant to the overall narrative.
Tyler is a deadbeat 110% glad Bri is taking him to court , but why are people not holding Bri accountable for her part ? .. the minute people hold the other adults involved people get accused of being on Tyler’s side which is incorrect
@@Shaylasetno one is not holding her accountable BUT why would he need to mention her abusive behavior when he turn around and slept with her and agreed not to abort the kids. Like not donating then played house with her. So the DV didn’t matter to him, so it’s up to her ex wife to hold her accountable.
Double standard
Ashley needs to go and get her Ressa on. She would blow up ⬆️