It's so nice to see you on YT again! As someone with 15 years of Ryanair service in my rear view mirror, I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to resign sooner rather than later. Although I have zero long haul experience, I would add to the health perspective that doing sports regularly, eating well, and sleeping well will do wonders in keeping your brain and psyche healthy and capable. I am looking forward to your new videos.
How did you get 11 likes on your comment? Wow! Thank you Tom for your comment, and the added value. Sport is super important, especially with friends. Makes wonders really. The low pressure at high altitudes hurts your veins, could cause premature varicose, so sport not only gets more oxygen back to where it is needed after a flight, but reinvigorates capillaries, arteries, veins and muscles. Anyways, flying for too long creates a burden you cannot escape. That's why it's better to limit the amount of years you spend flying. Thank you for the comment and I look forward to our next call! Or seeing each other actually!
I have been a cabin crew for over 15 years now (in europe) and I cannot agree more with what you have said. I personally think that some companies especially middle eastern are a kind of "golden cage" in which you end up in and can be really difficult to come out. We as humans we tend for stability and sometimes ismt is difficult to give up your routine and jump into the dark. Through my career I have personally experienced months of low energy and depression as i had the feeling I was doing rhe same things over and over again. But in the end, passion for flying and being on that aluminium rocket speeding through the sky at 900km/h still gives me shiver of happiness.
And I fully agree with you too! Such true words. There always needs to be a balance between work and personal time off. I think the middle east, not having unions, has disrupted this balance to get more tourism in, more cash flow, more flights operated without having to hire more staff for their flights. We used to have several A positions, extras on the Flight that don't have safety responsibilities, but that do help out with the service, galley ops, etc. That was for many years until 2018, now they optimized it and got rid of them! It was already so busy, I can't imagine how it is now! And the new joiners know nothing about it. They joined after the change, so can't compare and cannot feel ripped off! Anyways, there are many other benefits and perks that got stripped away! Eheh
Go into the job with open eyrs and make your decison. Maybe you'll comclude that such work might be attractive for you for, say, ten years rather than most of your life... In short, perhaps a compromise strategy is the way to go...
Health is Wealth. No job, no profession is worth that sacrifice and deficit. Health Means @ not necessarily super wealthy but adequate to support oneself and one's family. Freedom to pursue one's interests and responsibilities. Best wishes.
I wanted to see my daughter everyday primarily. And age with her, so she and I could enjoy one another. This job isn't meant for families. Some make it work out, but I can't see a functional family live appropriate family life (especially when kids are very little) while flying. I couldn't bare more than a day without my baby! Once or twice ok, but not making it the norm. Good comment! Thank you very much 🙏
Hi Faith! How nice of you to let me know 😊 and I'm so happy you made it in. Please make sure to take care of yourself, even when you think you don't need to so much. Anyways enjoy the destinations and the uniform! That's something we former crew always miss! Much love 😘 Orlando and Zdenka
Being a flight attendant is a great job and in my opinion, you said nothing but the truth. There is so much of your personal freedom you have to give up for this so called fabulous lifestyle we are known to have. You are constantly tired from flying from east coast to west coast. This job is not made for everyone. You have to really love it to stay in long term.
Couldn't agree more! What's worst in the middle east is that flights can be super long or super short but massacring. I won't name the crazy routes Ek flies to that are insanely difficult to operate, but any flight attendant knows what I'm talking about
Congratulations on your marriage and the arrival of your child! As a fellow flight attendant, I can definitely relate to the unique challenges and rewards of the job. I've been fortunate to work for my national airline, which offers a more balanced workload compared to the demands of Emirates. That being said, while I don't see this as a lifelong career for myself, it's been an incredible journey that I wouldn’t trade for anything.
So true! And I fully agree. Like I said, I am grateful for having chosen to work for Emirates. It has been memorable and I still miss the flying experience from time to time. It's a special feeling that is hard to explain to the general public. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about right? Thank you for your lovely comment Mounir, and for your kind words!
As having retired from one of the big 3 in the US after 40 years of flying intl, we do make decent money. At the airline I retired from we had no cap on flying hours and many made $100-120+ I just flew my regular hours and made about $85 with 6 weeks vacation. The unlimited free travel for you, spouse, children and parents for life is also a nice perk. Good luck in your new adventures.
That's good pay! We get no travel perks for others, just us and we still pay. It's complicated to explain in a short comment, but our benefits aren't great in terms of travel. But Emirates does give free accommodation, transport and utilities. Those are good perks, but not enough in my opinion
Jose! I still remember booking the car for our layover in Seattle before our departure from Dubai and a 14h shift! Was so nice spending time with you, and enjoying the 4 different seasons in one day! Thank you for such wonderful memories ,and I really look forward to seeing you very very soon! If I come to Portugal, I will tell you! Also let me know if you come to Czech republic
I think we have to divide the crew what work for the Arline in to two categories ? One from developed country’s and one from undeveloped country’s ? Crew from India Pakistan Philippines etc ? For them it’s big step in life to have job in Emirates and will do everything to work as long as possible for the Arline ? Many of them helping financially family in the own country ! For many people from Europe or developed country’s like US Australia etc ,when they get bored they can always move back to home country get a good pay job and have good life ! Unfortunately the crew from undeveloped country’s don’t have that opportunity and will work with Arline until they reach age limit and will ask to go ! Also when they go home everyone looks at them like they achieve something. In the life everyone look them like celebrity 😂 but is different for crew from developed country’s
I love to travel as a passenger, but I realize the impact of a long haul flight across many time zones on your circadian rhythm is very hard. It takes me almost a week to recover from these flights between Asia and the west. When I am in such a flight I feel kind of sorry for the flight attendants knowing well that they will probably have only 24 hours of rest and then will be heading back. Of course, when you are young you can go on "hacking " your circadian rhythm for a few years and even pretend that jet lag doesn't exist. At some point it will catch up with you.
Paulo you're completely right ! And as we fly now, we also feel very sorry for the flight attendants working shifts during the night. We flew to Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia and south Africa and each time we tried to bother as little as we could. Long flights, little rest before, night shift. Really insane! But as you said, Emirates prefers young people that can do this no problem. It's a fair trade-off for young people, they travel the world like they never could otherwise, and Emirates gets away with barely legal shifts and rest for their crew! Not amazing, but that's their strategy. Had unions existed, I can promise you it would be different. But why do they not have them? Is Dubai such an advanced place to live in?
Interestingly truthful. Both my wife & I flew for South African Airways frm 1981-1991 on B747s. We were young, it was fun, good money, 5 star hotels, lots of travelling, shopping & partying BUT spending 15-20days overseas flying 90 hrs per month is very demanding on a stable / healthy lifestyle. We both moved into aviation management & a more stable career.
Thank you for your comment. By the way the 747 is one of my favorite aircrafts. I fell in love with it when going to the US when I was a kid. Believe it or not, me and my dad walked in the flight deck during the flight and the pilot let me sit with him. Good times, although very naive. I agree with what you wrote, and it's great you went into Management. What airline/country if it's safe to say? Say as much as you feel like
Much respect for you Orlando, your channel has taught us a lot (I've been following you since 2019). We wish you well in your future endeavors and you have our full support as a community. There will always be haters no matter what you do, but that may also be a good sign that you have achieved something.
Thank you Safouder, you're so kind! And it's nice to see you're still following us! It's a long journey for me, I've been having a lot of fun and it's nice to read such nice comments! I really appreciate you writing this
Your channel has really helped me with my nerves about joining Emirates (my assessment day is tomorrow). Glad I found your videos, it has really slapped some sense into my head - thank you 🙏🏻
You can do it! Good luck! And remember it's only a game. It will eventually happen so go with a light heart :) I'm very happy I could help you. It's a real pleasure to read comments like yours Kya
Hey' following a while during you4 flight time. Today you Look much more healthier and hopefully much luckier. This job is only for a special time. Shopping is.not a whole life and all the glamour is Not all. Each has to decide how long it is able to work for such big Compagnie. Best wishes .greetx from FRA. K.
A video with you reacting to the hate comments from other Emirates cabin crew would get a lot of views😆😆😆 Something tells me the hate must have come from cabin crew from developing countries who are very fortunate to have that job and don't know that people from other countries have way higher standards for their employer and life in general.
How can you blame them? I fully understand what a godsend this career can be! Especially just working in Dubai for those nationals that have a really unfortunate passport (south Africans, Jordan, etc). I know friends that hold those passports and had it not been for Dubai, they would have never left their countries. I recognize this and I fully respect it.
Former Emirates business class crew here. Am I grateful for this experience? - hell yes. Is it worth it to sacrifice your physical and mental health ? - hell no. Is it worth it to sacrifice your future potential (opportunity cost) ? - no. I quit few months ago. I would never go back no matter how much money you'd pay me. Like you mentioned - the excitement, travels and those artificial dopamine hits they fade away. Actually I am in the process of healing (mostly mentally) from this job, it's getting better with every passing day. You never know how happy and at peace you can get if you ditch things that drain you, and make space for little things that bring you peace.
Thank you for your comment. I think I inherited some damage too from the airline. I never had any panic attacks or depression issues thankfully, but I knew my life was not really going anywhere anymore, which then led me to lower self confidence. And I've heard many stories of suicides, depression and more, so I only wish Emirates taught some prevention in the training college on this topic, labeling it as a real potential issue for flight crew in general. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed your experience as a cabin crew, and that objectively it has been memorable. But I'm also glad you opened up on some of the side aspects crew go through. Obviously I'm wishing you the very best! ☺️ And a successful future!
The excitement of flying & living in Dubai wear off very quickly. It doesn’t take long to realise that you are a controlled workhorse living in a totally fake city with many rules, regulations & laws that do not exist in free countries like UK, USA, Canada, Australia etc. The police, etc are not friendly.
Amico mio!! Tutto a posto qui! 😄 Ho quasi dimenticato tutto il mio italiano 🤣🤣 Done with flying man when covid came, its been almost 5 years now. Good times! Some people stayed, still in touch with them. All seems to go well. Such a privilage to know both of you! I am currently in Colombia, but in a year or two will be back in Europe! Will catch up the next time when in CZ for sure! 🎉🎉🎉 Take good care!!!
Actually you love sharing knowledge! And I think that's great BC doesn't matter what you've been doing you always find a way to share what you learnt from.
I appreciate that! 🙏 And yes that's true! I love sharing what I know, and love studying more to make videos. it's an ongoing journey of learning and doing videos. thank you for your support Jean !
Congratulations on your courage to start something new. Follow your passion! It will take you to places you never expected; you'll see! Five years from now, you'll be very surprised. Your financial advice is the best advice you could give ANYONE!! Save and invest!!! It's easier than you think and you'll be very, very happy when you are older. Trust me! I've done it! I agree 💯 but I must say that the flight attendant job is dead-end. Chances for advancement are slim. It's good for a few years for young men and women to travel, but to make a lifelong career like they have done at Delta and United is only for a few.
Totally agree! And thank you for such a kind and really fulfilling comment. I agree on leveraging from interest on your savings, and how a dead end is the cabin crew career. I think it's only a life phase for most. A wonderful one worth trying and enjoying :) Looking forward to speak to you again Dean. Orlando
Jetlag is bad enough being a passenger on long haul flights.A life of constant jetlag but having to smile constantly as a flight attendant working for Emerates would surely lose any appeal very quickly.!.
Absolutely true! We went to Bali and felt so bad for the crew working during the night. Such a long flight and all during the night. I remember when I did it, it was super hard to cope the next day, it all felt like a dream.
Absolutely yes, medical care is provided and paid for by your company. Any cosmetic or dental job is extra, you'll have to cover that. Emirates provides a small allowance for dental, that's something they don't tell you by the way!
Hi first of all I would like to tell you that you are one of the people who love to watch all their videos and I haven't missed a video of yours for 4 years so I would like to thank you very much for your really great and wonderful videos, thank you from the bottom of my heart❤ and I have a question if you allow me to ask them: 1) Is there a colleague of yours who is 174 cm tall (taking into account that I will adjust my BMI to be in the green zone)? I know that the company says 160 or 165 but have you met anyone who is the same height as me or at the same level because in the past two years I was frustrated because of this thing? 2) Secondly, is working for a year and a half as a receptionist in a hotel considered customer service? And also a salesperson in a small shop in my city is considered as well? 3) Can you explain the CV with an example please, because I have heard these days about ready-made templates, so do you use them or do we use the old clear method without colors? 4) As for English, is it necessary to be very fluent in it? I can express myself and understand well what is said in English but I lack some terms (speed of speech, nothing more) 5) When will the one-on-one sessions that you used to offer return? 6) When will I know that this profession does not suit me if I was rejected more than once by more than one company? 7) I do not know how to put it but..) I love my appearance and I love me as I am and I do not want to change anything about it but to be honest with you I have many doubts because of this thing, so is it considered a big factor...?
Hey so I just typed a really long paragraph only for it to be deleted at the end😂💔 I really want to help you out so let me answer your questions briefly. (I am not Emirates cabin crew myself, I will be applying in December & very confident if being picked because I've been practicing for a long time)*God willingly* 1) Your height is very perfect you don't have to worry about anything, I myself am 180cm. Just Make sure your BMI is in the green zone then you're Good! 2)Your have more than enough experience needed, all they are asking for is at least 1 year customer service experience, and you have over 3, you are perfect! 3) Please don't use any color for your CV as it goes through an ATS machine which can run your chances, just go for a simple Black and White, 1or2 columns is fine. Some ready made templates on Canva 4) Emirates is looking for a candidate that is Confident in English e.g ( can you hold a conversation with other people confidently in English? Can you confidently fluently express yourself in English? Can you write in English [{Level B2-C1}] ) judging but the way you have worded your questions I can say your writing is very good! JUST PLEASE BUILD CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF, LOSE THE SELF DOUBT IN YOURSELF. 6)Not sure I understand your question But if Being a flight attendant or aviation industry is your Goal and dream, don't let anything stop you, EMIRATES DOESN'T HAVE A LIMIT TO APPLYING you can apply and get Interviewed many times until you are perfect, Don't give up 7)I thing I have noticed is Male candidates are not very Scrutinized when it comes to Looks/appearance, with males you only need to be well groomed, clean haircut, clean shave, Good physique, that's all! So you don't have to worry about anything. Please build confidence in yourself, confidence in your speaking, confidence in the way you carry yourself, please lose the self doubt in yourself, it's slowing you down! Watch more practice videos from other cabin crew on RUclips, they're plenty more people. Visit the Emirates website to familiarize yourself on what they are looking for, Everything shall be well for you. Good luck!
Great video , thanks for the info . As for the pension I had a question , what’s best way to save for your pension . Did you just put a certain amount of your salary account aside on your savings account or another bank account specifically created for your pension money . Or did you hire a certain company that helps you set a pension fund . Keep up the good work with the videos
The only part I can't understand is having a passion for doing RUclips videos out of all the other possibilities. This video was enlightening and informative but I'm skeptical that I would be interested in the others. Fortunately you may have another audience for those.
Thank you very much for your comment. It's not a career on RUclips, it's a career in video making in the areas I have a passion for. That took me to the Maldives, Dubai, Greece for very nice collaborations. To work with my favorite brands in the video camera space. My training videos are used by national airlines at their training college. It just feels good to have an accomplishment in the space I like. Audience and Money are important, and it's not as stable. That's why I'm going to try and if it doesn't work, I'll pursue something else on the side.
I am applying to join Emirates cabin crew next week. I know it’s easier to get in if they actually are low on staff and in need for lots of new cabin crew. Do you have any idea how low on staff they are at the moment ? It might help me knowing, whilst I am preparing this whole week knowing also wheter they need staff or not it’s very hard to get in anyway..
Hi there! They're still hiring a lot, should be a good moment still. They placed many aircraft orders and there's always turnover. I recommend applying all the time. Just keep trying every 3 months. Good Luck!!
You should see the burnt out senior cabin crew on US airlines drinking themselves silly in their European hotel room stopovers - at the end of the day its a 3 year job maximum
Fact is Life is hard, do you think the man who picks up your garbage every day is living his passion? No sometimes you just need to make a living and more importantly it’s a responsibility if you have a family. Some flight attendants can do it for 40 years, some can’t handle it. To each his own but let’s respect those who choose a different path and not pointing out how bad their choice of career is. Let it go, it just wasn’t for you. The hate comments you’re getting are from those who enjoy doing what they do and don’t take well when someone says the job that they love sucks so much. Try to understand that and let it go and move on with your life and choices. But one thing is for sure, whatever you choose, whether is raising children, doing your videos, it will always be hard work!
Thank you for your comment. After reading it, I take it it was your first time watching one of our videos. We weren't mocked for outlining how hard the job was, we were mocked for helping others make it in, for teaching how to build a resume, for teaching good body language and avoiding the bad one, and for pointing out the true but hidden facts about the company before anyone starts a career there. The fact that I got a bit of attention, maybe got a bit famous in the aviation industry (cabin crew) for maybe just a second got on their nerves, just like any other influencer/body workout trainer/etc that used to be crew. I knew it was coming cause I saw them deliberately mock others that made it before me on their Facebook groups. Not trying to argue here, and I did appreciate your comment! But I worked much harder before joining Emirates. I dont come from money. I paid my uni studies by working as a waiter, a basketball referee on Saturdays and Sundays, handpicking grapes for wine produce and operating olive oil manufacturing machines at night, I also worked for Ryanair before Emirates, got paid 500 USD per month average with no perks, going to work by bike pedaling 14 km every day (kevelaer to Weeze, check it out on the maps), even during winter, to save on the bus costs. I'm Italian/American and left my comfort to work for Ryanair in Germany and Emirates in Dubai, now in Czech republic. I'm used to hard work, I've been through hell (I found it inspiring, so not hell, but most found it crazy), but I can recognize when something isn't worth it on the long run. I'll do a video about this, nobody knows the details I left above, maybe cause I was a bit embarrassed, or maybe cause it never occured to me people would be interested knowing about it. Wishing you a good day and looking forward to more of these type of discussions. Orlando
Heyy, I have tried to get to Emirates, Ettihad, Qatar, Wizzair, LOT, Ryanair numerous times. I failed training at LOT, resigned from training at Ryanair due to previous failure in LOT despite my knowledge. Didn't have mental force to continue due to not get paid even for a day of training at LOT. I want to be a cabin crew for some certain amount of time to raise money, travel a bit and invest as you said. My issue is, that even after a training at LOT I acknowledged ab myself I am not that obedient, not saying his thought person. I know that airlines e.g. emirates, ettihad looks for such people who sometimes do not have hobbies or anything that makes them creative due to the fact as you said - this job ain't creative. Still, I am ready to sacrifice myself and work at my flaws to get that job because I love aviation, travelling and I am dreaming about estabilishing my own business as a young entrepreneur. I am looking forward for your video how to get to Emirates because they constantly reject me after either 1st step or 1st group challange.
The problem seems to be you. Do you have another costumer service experience? Cabin Crew is similar except safety and security are added. If you couldn't handle the training, I don't think you would perform well in the everyday job. Maybe you should consider other careers.
@@seren4740 well, I got 58/60 at the ending test so it is not necessarily that I didn't have knowledge. Still test politic ( 6 sections x 10 questions - more than 1 false in one bracket - you out).
Hello Orlando! Thanks for your video, think it's good to highlight different aspects of life as a cabin crew. I have to ask you something (a completely honest and straightforward question): For the past 10 years, I have been carrying a dream of working as cabin crew, but really have all the odds against me; I am extremely shy, introverted, get anxiety from adversity and am on medication for this. Not the strongest medicine then, but still. Would you dissuade me from pursuing this profession? Do you understand that my mental health is most important and I may not understand what this profession really entails? Nevertheless, the dream remains with me, because I like to travel and to provide good service. But that might not be enough I think.....so I would like some advice from someone who knows what it can be like up there in the air (and also down on the ground when you are not flying). Wishing you and your family all the best! With kind regards David from Sweden
Hi David, What a lovely and honest comment you shared. I believe working as a cabin crew is the fastest way to uncover the entire globe, visit places you'd never dream going to in a lifetime. And even if you did, there would be no way you'd be able to cover as many places in one lifetime with what you get out of 3-4 years in global airline. In your particular case, I think a therapist could recommend the best course of actions, and how to align your eagerness to discover and travel with your life/career. I do think that, getting out of your comfort zone and not taking it too seriously could help you get there, I also think that the assessment process will challenge your emotions, feelings, impulses and reveal if you're able to embark this career or not. Your assertiveness is challenged, your social skills too, you eventually will know rather quickly. I can't really give you a straight answer, but I hope it helped you a little bit. It's lovely to read your open comment David. And I wish you best of luck in your life endeavors. Orlando
Alitalia gave you long layovers right? I know some people that came from Alitalia (pilots and crew) they told me you'd stay for 1 week long layovers! That's a better rest than 24 hours Emirates provides for cabin crew on their layovers. Imagine, Dubai - Washington is departure at 22:00, you need to wake up at 18:00, so you need to literally sleep during the afternoon to be fresh for the shift (impossible). After 12-14 hours of flying, you only have a 24 hour layover. Anyways, flying is awesome. I won't hide that
@@WishCasting hi, yes it was but we are talking of the ‘80!!! After around 200 the start shorten every flight , being daily instead of one or twice a week flight, and I ended doing only 24 hrs as Emirates does. This being said yes I loved my job till the last day
Might not be different, but a shorter life because of a specific unhealthy job means that you need to make the right decisions today. There isn't the luxury of rediscovering yourself after 10 years and changing path without having received some damage
Sure, that is true what you just said...i work in a restaurant where i have no jetlag etc but i am always mentally stressed not to mention the physical aspect of it.
Life has changed. Back in the hay day people would do anything to be working as a airhostess or cabin crew. Today its just a glorified waitress or waitor. Your life is more important your health is important its very unhealthy to do this job for more than 7 years.
:D That is hilarious! Didn't even realize, and it's quite funny :D Never was married before, and hope this the final stop! But maybe my subconscious Italian side betrayed me xD
Thanks for posting this testimonial. I can’t imagine the strain of being an FA, especially the physical aspects. I assume similar issues affect pilots as well, fatigue being such a big part of the job. We all depend on the airline industry but little attention is paid to the people that make it happen.
To your comments: - RUclips creates several high paying opportunities on the side other than the ones you probably are aware of. And you have it forever, until you hand it down to someone (yes there's a policy and function on Google in case you pass away). If you're a freelancer, you pay taxes and automatically pay towards your pension. The revenue you make on RUclips is so much higher than you think. - I read your previous comment, which you deleted now I think (maybe not showing up yet)? Nobody dreams of being a cop as much as people dream of traveling the world and getting paid for it. There's an army of influencers showing off their Flight Attendants' lifestyle, luxury stays, and destinations, looking fresh through make-up, and most of the time fake smiles, for that perfect picture. Luring people into a career without highlighting its negative aspects is not good. There are 3 groups of people in the flight attendant community: 1) the influencers we spoke above, that advertise their jobs as they were just perfect 2) the burnt-out crew that make videos of how this career broke them 3) the ones who don't care, who just move forward in their lives I'm creating a 4th group: making people aware that it's not all gold they see glittering. Anyway, I've been doing this for a while now, and I know that saying the truth about something, especially if it resonates with other jobs, industries, and markets can spark reactions in people, which is good.
@WishCasting Yawn. I can say the same thing about owning several rental properties, stock portfolio and work from Home business which I have. Sounds easy but not everyone will achieve that because there was a ton of work and sleepless nights to get there. Heck, I can say my passion is Professional Soccer or be Luka or Steph Curry but I know aside from Genetics how much sacrifice is needed to get there. And you're promoting RUclips where the burn out rate is quite high because you're pressured to make interesting content every few days or your channel will flush down the toilet.
Everybody can be a flight attendant. Not everyone can be Luka or Steph Curry. It's not the right comparison. I don't promote RUclips (quote me if you can), I said that's the path I'm going down with, and that following a passion instead of becoming numb to the apparent benefits airlines give you is a good thing. And it's not just RUclips you do when you do RUclips. Again, please do some research. RUclips is maybe 30% of a RUclipsr's income, and it all brings a lot of joy. I haven't put a single video up in 3 years and yet I still made income. It's an interesting avenue, certainly not for everyone, but that's my life. The takeaway message is: follow your passion, not all that glitters is gold, life is short so do something you like and that doesn't shorten your life
@@WishCastingNobody dreams of being a cop as much as what you're doing shows how full you are of yourself. But hey, it's your channel so you can promote yourself all you want.
Per month. The company pays for your rent, transport and utilities. That's a big thing since it's expensive. But still the salary isn't competitive anymore if you're looking after your pension. Dubai is very expensive.
Worst pay in the world. Despite that I applied at several airlines but from an employee with a candid inside info told me and a relative, I was not gay and even if not gay my mannerisms weren’t flamboyant or effeminate enough. Now looking back it makes sense based on all the interview panels I sat in front of every job app. I’m a 6’3" bearded lumber jack/ cop look so I don’t fit the gay/gay supporter demographic.
I didn’t have any of those mannerisms either and I was crew for 21 years . If it’s your passion then go for it you will get in eventually. Yes unless your a purser or senior cqbin crew the money is poor . I stopped flying when the 747-400 was scrapped and much happier now I’m not flying . It was a great experience but it plays havoc with your health and skin after around 5 years . Best wishes Philip 🇬🇧
Yeah sure😂 you are just bitter and there are lots of people with the appearance you describe as "jock" in airlines. Gays surely are not the preferred candidates in Emirates and Etihad.
I'm wondering why you said it until now, you hadn't said it while you were working in the company, also the hate is just on the Arabic companies. The salary I believe has helped you to build your life. Come on, all the job are energy consuming.
Orlando is a good friend of mine-we joined Emirates at the same time, and he's sharing the real experience of working there. Let's not turn this into a culture debate, because that's not what this is about. The reality of working with Emirates is quite different from how it appears. Yes, the salary is low compared to the market. For example, your base pay is around 1,000 euros, and if you’re sick (which happens often when flying), you don’t get the flying hours payment. There are many cases where crew members get injured on board and have to live on just the basic salary. Some face injuries lasting up to 12 months, and with no social security to cover the rest, the financial strain can be severe.
I did say it during employment, I just wasn't doing RUclips ! And trust me, everyone on every flight was saying the same. The money is too little if you considered everything. Emirates did help me build my life, but salary isn't the only thing that builds it. Like my mom always told me "money can always be spent and made, but time cannot". And about any job being energy consuming, that's true! But the flight attendant one kills you quicker. What you do in your life is more important than ever in this case, given the shorter time you live.
Thanks Sharif! Miss you khalas maifrend...! I agree with what you said. To the point and very true. People usually take this career for granted, just like we did, but reality kicks you in the face once you're in and familiar with the differences to other jobs, in other countries. Research is key, too bad new joiners are typically very young and just want to travel, they don't think about it and just jump in this career. But that's life. And Emirates is a fantastic job for a few of your young years!
I disagree. If you work in recruitment for example you advertise on Fridays, you meet with hiring managers to create job descriptions and understand what the job entails. You meet with potential new clients and pitch, you make decisions with other c-level executives on the best hire, you are part of the hiring process, you screen candidates, you travel to meet your accounts and potential new ones, there are so many jobs with varied tasks and responsibilities. If you're in an operational role, with limited functions then yes (manufacturing roles, operators, technicians). The job market is very divers and it can't be generalized.
Emirates is government-owned. It is a subsidiary of The Emirates Group, which is totally owned by the government of Dubai through the Investment Corporation of Dubai. Although it is government-owned, Emirates operates as a commercial entity, competing globally with other airlines. And it has its own CEO and executive suite.
The return is endless memories of travels around the globe. That I'm convinced of. For the rest, very little return yes. Especially if spending habits are trash
Qatar, Emirate,Saudi , Riyadh , flydubai etc……..Middle East airlines consider you as salvor. They think they have right to fire all of you anytime, that’s the reason has NO Union. So I compare salary actually not so high. In desert ( I have been those countries) nobody want to Stay so those airline provide bus, housing allowance etc but most of flights depart at night, Minimum rest hours etc your health rapidly deteriorate and it affect your life too. Do not join Middle East airlines most important thing Islamic country, why you never bothered ?? You just lose your health , youth in dry desert !,
“Being Cabin Crew”. There is no A before cabin crew. This is the most irritating thing about working in the Middle East. People will say “annual leaves”; when it’s Leave (no S). Basic English.
It should be increased, that's for sure. But on the flip side, the company provides accommodation,transport and utilities for free. Plus discounts wherever you go. Still not good enough for those that try saving
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It's so nice to see you on YT again!
As someone with 15 years of Ryanair service in my rear view mirror, I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to resign sooner rather than later.
Although I have zero long haul experience, I would add to the health perspective that doing sports regularly, eating well, and sleeping well will do wonders in keeping your brain and psyche healthy and capable.
I am looking forward to your new videos.
How did you get 11 likes on your comment? Wow! Thank you Tom for your comment, and the added value. Sport is super important, especially with friends. Makes wonders really. The low pressure at high altitudes hurts your veins, could cause premature varicose, so sport not only gets more oxygen back to where it is needed after a flight, but reinvigorates capillaries, arteries, veins and muscles. Anyways, flying for too long creates a burden you cannot escape. That's why it's better to limit the amount of years you spend flying.
Thank you for the comment and I look forward to our next call! Or seeing each other actually!
I have been a cabin crew for over 15 years now (in europe) and I cannot agree more with what you have said. I personally think that some companies especially middle eastern are a kind of "golden cage" in which you end up in and can be really difficult to come out. We as humans we tend for stability and sometimes ismt is difficult to give up your routine and jump into the dark. Through my career I have personally experienced months of low energy and depression as i had the feeling I was doing rhe same things over and over again. But in the end, passion for flying and being on that aluminium rocket speeding through the sky at 900km/h still gives me shiver of happiness.
And I fully agree with you too! Such true words. There always needs to be a balance between work and personal time off. I think the middle east, not having unions, has disrupted this balance to get more tourism in, more cash flow, more flights operated without having to hire more staff for their flights. We used to have several A positions, extras on the Flight that don't have safety responsibilities, but that do help out with the service, galley ops, etc. That was for many years until 2018, now they optimized it and got rid of them! It was already so busy, I can't imagine how it is now! And the new joiners know nothing about it. They joined after the change, so can't compare and cannot feel ripped off! Anyways, there are many other benefits and perks that got stripped away! Eheh
Go into the job with open eyrs and make your decison. Maybe you'll comclude that such work might be attractive for you for, say, ten years rather than most of your life... In short, perhaps a compromise strategy is the way to go...
Health is Wealth.
No job, no profession is worth that sacrifice and deficit.
Health
Means @ not necessarily super wealthy but adequate to support oneself and one's family.
Freedom to pursue one's interests and responsibilities.
Best wishes.
I wanted to see my daughter everyday primarily. And age with her, so she and I could enjoy one another. This job isn't meant for families. Some make it work out, but I can't see a functional family live appropriate family life (especially when kids are very little) while flying. I couldn't bare more than a day without my baby! Once or twice ok, but not making it the norm.
Good comment! Thank you very much 🙏
@WishCasting Aameen. Absolutely. I have two girls. Every reason and purpose to be and stay around for as long as we must. And endeavour. Best wishes.
Orlando! I joined EK because of your YT masterclass. Thank you so much 🙏🏾 it’s been a year now and I’m happy to see you back on YT.
Hi Faith! How nice of you to let me know 😊 and I'm so happy you made it in. Please make sure to take care of yourself, even when you think you don't need to so much. Anyways enjoy the destinations and the uniform! That's something we former crew always miss!
Much love 😘
Orlando and Zdenka
@@WishCasting I sure will, thank you so much for the wisdom 🤗🙏🏾
Ex EK purser here.
Never met you at work though.
I enjoyed watching your articulate presentation. Well-done & all the best. 🙂
straight to the point, honest and insightful. thanks for sharing! take care ☺
Thank you very much 🙏 I really appreciate your comment sir!
Being a flight attendant is a great job and in my opinion, you said nothing but the truth. There is so much of your personal freedom you have to give up for this so called fabulous lifestyle we are known to have. You are constantly tired from flying from east coast to west coast. This job is not made for everyone. You have to really love it to stay in long term.
Couldn't agree more! What's worst in the middle east is that flights can be super long or super short but massacring. I won't name the crazy routes Ek flies to that are insanely difficult to operate, but any flight attendant knows what I'm talking about
Congratulations on your marriage and the arrival of your child! As a fellow flight attendant, I can definitely relate to the unique challenges and rewards of the job. I've been fortunate to work for my national airline, which offers a more balanced workload compared to the demands of Emirates. That being said, while I don't see this as a lifelong career for myself, it's been an incredible journey that I wouldn’t trade for anything.
So true! And I fully agree. Like I said, I am grateful for having chosen to work for Emirates. It has been memorable and I still miss the flying experience from time to time. It's a special feeling that is hard to explain to the general public. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about right?
Thank you for your lovely comment Mounir, and for your kind words!
I admire you for stepping out to follow your passion. Congrats for your baby. 😎
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your support 🙏
Welcome back Orlando! Thank you for being transparent on your videos! Godbless
Thank you Jess! You're so kind to drop us a comment :)
Big hug,
Orlando&Zdenka
As having retired from one of the big 3 in the US after 40 years of flying intl, we do make decent money. At the airline I retired from we had no cap on flying hours and many made $100-120+ I just flew my regular hours and made about $85 with 6 weeks vacation. The unlimited free travel for you, spouse, children and parents for life is also a nice perk. Good luck in your new adventures.
That's good pay! We get no travel perks for others, just us and we still pay. It's complicated to explain in a short comment, but our benefits aren't great in terms of travel. But Emirates does give free accommodation, transport and utilities. Those are good perks, but not enough in my opinion
Thanks for this video 😊😊😊😊
Habibiiiiiiii!!! You haven’t aged a day! I’m so glad our paths crossed! Can’t wait to squeeze you again, until you squeak!! 🥰
Jose! I still remember booking the car for our layover in Seattle before our departure from Dubai and a 14h shift! Was so nice spending time with you, and enjoying the 4 different seasons in one day! Thank you for such wonderful memories ,and I really look forward to seeing you very very soon! If I come to Portugal, I will tell you! Also let me know if you come to Czech republic
Welcome back Orlando!!! We missed you ❤️
So kind of you 🥰
I think we have to divide the crew what work for the Arline in to two categories ? One from developed country’s and one from undeveloped country’s ? Crew from India Pakistan Philippines etc ? For them it’s big step in life to have job in Emirates and will do everything to work as long as possible for the Arline ? Many of them helping financially family in the own country ! For many people from Europe or developed country’s like US Australia etc ,when they get bored they can always move back to home country get a good pay job and have good life ! Unfortunately the crew from undeveloped country’s don’t have that opportunity and will work with Arline until they reach age limit and will ask to go !
Also when they go home everyone looks at them like they achieve something. In the life everyone look them like celebrity 😂 but is different for crew from developed country’s
That's 100% true, said from EK crew.
Agree with every word. No nonsense, no drama, just facts.
Thank you so very much
I love to travel as a passenger, but I realize the impact of a long haul flight across many time zones on your circadian rhythm is very hard. It takes me almost a week to recover from these flights between Asia and the west. When I am in such a flight I feel kind of sorry for the flight attendants knowing well that they will probably have only 24 hours of rest and then will be heading back. Of course, when you are young you can go on "hacking " your circadian rhythm for a few years and even pretend that jet lag doesn't exist. At some point it will catch up with you.
Paulo you're completely right ! And as we fly now, we also feel very sorry for the flight attendants working shifts during the night. We flew to Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia and south Africa and each time we tried to bother as little as we could. Long flights, little rest before, night shift. Really insane! But as you said, Emirates prefers young people that can do this no problem. It's a fair trade-off for young people, they travel the world like they never could otherwise, and Emirates gets away with barely legal shifts and rest for their crew! Not amazing, but that's their strategy.
Had unions existed, I can promise you it would be different. But why do they not have them? Is Dubai such an advanced place to live in?
Interestingly truthful. Both my wife & I flew for South African Airways frm 1981-1991 on B747s. We were young, it was fun, good money, 5 star hotels, lots of travelling, shopping & partying BUT spending 15-20days overseas flying 90 hrs per month is very demanding on a stable / healthy lifestyle. We both moved into aviation management & a more stable career.
Thank you for your comment. By the way the 747 is one of my favorite aircrafts. I fell in love with it when going to the US when I was a kid. Believe it or not, me and my dad walked in the flight deck during the flight and the pilot let me sit with him. Good times, although very naive. I agree with what you wrote, and it's great you went into Management. What airline/country if it's safe to say? Say as much as you feel like
Much respect for you Orlando, your channel has taught us a lot (I've been following you since 2019). We wish you well in your future endeavors and you have our full support as a community. There will always be haters no matter what you do, but that may also be a good sign that you have achieved something.
Thank you Safouder, you're so kind! And it's nice to see you're still following us! It's a long journey for me, I've been having a lot of fun and it's nice to read such nice comments! I really appreciate you writing this
good for you ! Iwish you the best of luck in your new journey :)
Thank you so much!!❤️
Your channel has really helped me with my nerves about joining Emirates (my assessment day is tomorrow). Glad I found your videos, it has really slapped some sense into my head - thank you 🙏🏻
You can do it! Good luck! And remember it's only a game. It will eventually happen so go with a light heart :) I'm very happy I could help you. It's a real pleasure to read comments like yours Kya
Hey' following a while during you4 flight time. Today you Look much more healthier and hopefully much luckier. This job is only for a special time. Shopping is.not a whole life and all the glamour is Not all. Each has to decide how long it is able to work for such big Compagnie. Best wishes .greetx from FRA. K.
So so nice seeing you again!
Thank you Michele!! 😊
A video with you reacting to the hate comments from other Emirates cabin crew would get a lot of views😆😆😆 Something tells me the hate must have come from cabin crew from developing countries who are very fortunate to have that job and don't know that people from other countries have way higher standards for their employer and life in general.
How can you blame them? I fully understand what a godsend this career can be! Especially just working in Dubai for those nationals that have a really unfortunate passport (south Africans, Jordan, etc). I know friends that hold those passports and had it not been for Dubai, they would have never left their countries. I recognize this and I fully respect it.
Former Emirates business class crew here.
Am I grateful for this experience? - hell yes.
Is it worth it to sacrifice your physical and mental health ? - hell no.
Is it worth it to sacrifice your future potential (opportunity cost) ? - no.
I quit few months ago. I would never go back no matter how much money you'd pay me. Like you mentioned - the excitement, travels and those artificial dopamine hits they fade away.
Actually I am in the process of healing (mostly mentally) from this job, it's getting better with every passing day.
You never know how happy and at peace you can get if you ditch things that drain you, and make space for little things that bring you peace.
Thank you for your comment.
I think I inherited some damage too from the airline. I never had any panic attacks or depression issues thankfully, but I knew my life was not really going anywhere anymore, which then led me to lower self confidence. And I've heard many stories of suicides, depression and more, so I only wish Emirates taught some prevention in the training college on this topic, labeling it as a real potential issue for flight crew in general.
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed your experience as a cabin crew, and that objectively it has been memorable. But I'm also glad you opened up on some of the side aspects crew go through. Obviously I'm wishing you the very best! ☺️ And a successful future!
The excitement of flying & living in Dubai wear off very quickly. It doesn’t take long to realise that you are a controlled workhorse living in a totally fake city with many rules, regulations & laws that do not exist in free countries like UK, USA, Canada, Australia etc.
The police, etc are not friendly.
Great video ciccio! 💪💪 Keep making content and congrats to you and Zdenka on a baby! ☺️
Grazie Zeljko! Come stai? Are you still flying? Zdenka says hi and so does the young lady!
Amico mio!! Tutto a posto qui! 😄 Ho quasi dimenticato tutto il mio italiano 🤣🤣
Done with flying man when covid came, its been almost 5 years now. Good times! Some people stayed, still in touch with them. All seems to go well.
Such a privilage to know both of you! I am currently in Colombia, but in a year or two will be back in Europe! Will catch up the next time when in CZ for sure! 🎉🎉🎉 Take good care!!!
Why are you not getting views you have the best content😢
Well, at least we got your wonderful support! So thank you Jabina! 😘❤️
I have friends who were crew for over 20 years. One who flew to LA for 18 years on and off and had new been downtown or to Disney Land
Actually you love sharing knowledge! And I think that's great BC doesn't matter what you've been doing you always find a way to share what you learnt from.
I appreciate that! 🙏 And yes that's true! I love sharing what I know, and love studying more to make videos. it's an ongoing journey of learning and doing videos. thank you for your support Jean !
Welcome back!
Thank you Sharif! It's nice to be back!
I got rejected during group assessment, maybe it is a blessing in disguise I'm not sure.
Thanks for sharing!
It could be, just remember to do this job for as long as it brings you joy
I imagine most applicants are rejected first time around. If it's something you really want to do, you have to keep trying.
Excellent video! Many valid points. Congrats on your life shift.
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words ngron1
Congratulations on your courage to start something new. Follow your passion! It will take you to places you never expected; you'll see! Five years from now, you'll be very surprised. Your financial advice is the best advice you could give ANYONE!! Save and invest!!! It's easier than you think and you'll be very, very happy when you are older. Trust me! I've done it! I agree 💯 but I must say that the flight attendant job is dead-end. Chances for advancement are slim. It's good for a few years for young men and women to travel, but to make a lifelong career like they have done at Delta and United is only for a few.
Totally agree! And thank you for such a kind and really fulfilling comment. I agree on leveraging from interest on your savings, and how a dead end is the cabin crew career.
I think it's only a life phase for most. A wonderful one worth trying and enjoying :)
Looking forward to speak to you again Dean.
Orlando
Good luck ❤ and follow your passion
Thank you very much Rania! 🙏
ohh finally another video!
My favorite teacher! How are you Senape?
@@WishCasting I'm doing fine, working hard in order to visit Europe again
Looking forward to seeing you again!
Great video, thanks!
May I ask you, which tools are you using for filming?!
I'm making a review on the tools I used for this video in 2 weeks. It's the insta360 go3s
Jetlag is bad enough being a passenger on long haul flights.A life of constant jetlag but having to smile constantly as a flight attendant working for Emerates would surely lose any appeal very quickly.!.
Absolutely true! We went to Bali and felt so bad for the crew working during the night. Such a long flight and all during the night. I remember when I did it, it was super hard to cope the next day, it all felt like a dream.
Very good video, about the health part, if we get sick in Dubai is there free medical care;
Absolutely yes, medical care is provided and paid for by your company. Any cosmetic or dental job is extra, you'll have to cover that. Emirates provides a small allowance for dental, that's something they don't tell you by the way!
Hi
first of all I would like to tell you that you are one of the people who love to watch all their videos
and I haven't missed a video of yours for 4 years
so I would like to thank you very much for your really great and wonderful videos, thank you from the bottom of my heart❤ and I have a question if you allow me to ask them:
1) Is there a colleague of yours who is 174 cm tall (taking into account that I will adjust my BMI to be in the green zone)? I know that the company says 160 or 165 but have you met anyone who is the same height as me or at the same level because in the past two years I was frustrated because of this thing?
2) Secondly, is working for a year and a half as a receptionist in a hotel considered customer service? And also a salesperson in a small shop in my city is considered as well?
3) Can you explain the CV with an example please, because I have heard these days about ready-made templates, so do you use them or do we use the old clear method without colors?
4) As for English, is it necessary to be very fluent in it? I can express myself and understand well what is said in English but I lack some terms (speed of speech, nothing more)
5) When will the one-on-one sessions that you used to offer return?
6) When will I know that this profession does not suit me if I was rejected more than once by more than one company?
7) I do not know how to put it but..) I love my appearance and I love me as I am and I do not want to change anything about it but to be honest with you I have many doubts because of this thing, so is it considered a big factor...?
Hey so I just typed a really long paragraph only for it to be deleted at the end😂💔 I really want to help you out so let me answer your questions briefly.
(I am not Emirates cabin crew myself, I will be applying in December & very confident if being picked because I've been practicing for a long time)*God willingly*
1) Your height is very perfect you don't have to worry about anything, I myself am 180cm.
Just Make sure your BMI is in the green zone then you're Good!
2)Your have more than enough experience needed, all they are asking for is at least 1 year customer service experience, and you have over 3, you are perfect!
3) Please don't use any color for your CV as it goes through an ATS machine which can run your chances, just go for a simple Black and White, 1or2 columns is fine. Some ready made templates on Canva
4) Emirates is looking for a candidate that is Confident in English e.g ( can you hold a conversation with other people confidently in English? Can you confidently fluently express yourself in English? Can you write in English [{Level B2-C1}] ) judging but the way you have worded your questions I can say your writing is very good! JUST PLEASE BUILD CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF, LOSE THE SELF DOUBT IN YOURSELF.
6)Not sure I understand your question But if Being a flight attendant or aviation industry is your Goal and dream, don't let anything stop you, EMIRATES DOESN'T HAVE A LIMIT TO APPLYING you can apply and get Interviewed many times until you are perfect, Don't give up
7)I thing I have noticed is Male candidates are not very Scrutinized when it comes to Looks/appearance, with males you only need to be well groomed, clean haircut, clean shave, Good physique, that's all! So you don't have to worry about anything.
Please build confidence in yourself, confidence in your speaking, confidence in the way you carry yourself, please lose the self doubt in yourself, it's slowing you down!
Watch more practice videos from other cabin crew on RUclips, they're plenty more people.
Visit the Emirates website to familiarize yourself on what they are looking for, Everything shall be well for you. Good luck!
Great video , thanks for the info . As for the pension I had a question , what’s best way to save for your pension . Did you just put a certain amount of your salary account aside on your savings account or another bank account specifically created for your pension money . Or did you hire a certain company that helps you set a pension fund . Keep up the good work with the videos
The only part I can't understand is having a passion for doing RUclips videos out of all the other possibilities. This video was enlightening and informative but I'm skeptical that I would be interested in the others. Fortunately you may have another audience for those.
Thank you very much for your comment. It's not a career on RUclips, it's a career in video making in the areas I have a passion for. That took me to the Maldives, Dubai, Greece for very nice collaborations. To work with my favorite brands in the video camera space. My training videos are used by national airlines at their training college. It just feels good to have an accomplishment in the space I like. Audience and Money are important, and it's not as stable. That's why I'm going to try and if it doesn't work, I'll pursue something else on the side.
Your thinking is few years ahead of mine, so it really helps me to plan @Orlando. Please do what you are up to🔥
My pleasure Nudaddeen! I'm getting older so yes eheh 😁
Finalmente sei tornatooo
Grazie!!! 🙏 Fammi sapere chi sei e se ci conosciamo!
Some people take the flight attendants for granted. Especially the males.
Do you mean the male cabin crew are looked downed upon?
I agree! I see everything with a different perspective now. And although I already had respect, I have even more now for how much they work hard
@@Godsent_Gabriel999 Yes! The male flight attendants are not taken seriously.
I worked for a scheduled 4 star airline for 23.5 years and i would never do it again.
Airline life is crap.
Sorry to hear that! How come? We loved it, but 4-5 years was enough!
Very interesting , please make a vindeo about private pension, i use traders Republic, but just for the interest rates , i would like to learn more.
I'll do that ! I'll be doing a video about that! Thanks 🙏
I am applying to join Emirates cabin crew next week. I know it’s easier to get in if they actually are low on staff and in need for lots of new cabin crew. Do you have any idea how low on staff they are at the moment ? It might help me knowing, whilst I am preparing this whole week knowing also wheter they need staff or not it’s very hard to get in anyway..
Hi there! They're still hiring a lot, should be a good moment still. They placed many aircraft orders and there's always turnover. I recommend applying all the time. Just keep trying every 3 months. Good Luck!!
You should see the burnt out senior cabin crew on US airlines drinking themselves silly in their European hotel room stopovers - at the end of the day its a 3 year job maximum
Really? But I think it's a very common thing among flight attendants. Drinking a lot is super common! Partying, sleeping little and... Yes drugs!
Fact is Life is hard, do you think the man who picks up your garbage every day is living his passion? No sometimes you just need to make a living and more importantly it’s a responsibility if you have a family. Some flight attendants can do it for 40 years, some can’t handle it. To each his own but let’s respect those who choose a different path and not pointing out how bad their choice of career is. Let it go, it just wasn’t for you. The hate comments you’re getting are from those who enjoy doing what they do and don’t take well when someone says the job that they love sucks so much. Try to understand that and let it go and move on with your life and choices. But one thing is for sure, whatever you choose, whether is raising children, doing your videos, it will always be hard work!
Thank you for your comment.
After reading it, I take it it was your first time watching one of our videos.
We weren't mocked for outlining how hard the job was, we were mocked for helping others make it in, for teaching how to build a resume, for teaching good body language and avoiding the bad one, and for pointing out the true but hidden facts about the company before anyone starts a career there. The fact that I got a bit of attention, maybe got a bit famous in the aviation industry (cabin crew) for maybe just a second got on their nerves, just like any other influencer/body workout trainer/etc that used to be crew.
I knew it was coming cause I saw them deliberately mock others that made it before me on their Facebook groups.
Not trying to argue here, and I did appreciate your comment! But I worked much harder before joining Emirates. I dont come from money.
I paid my uni studies by working as a waiter, a basketball referee on Saturdays and Sundays, handpicking grapes for wine produce and operating olive oil manufacturing machines at night, I also worked for Ryanair before Emirates, got paid 500 USD per month average with no perks, going to work by bike pedaling 14 km every day (kevelaer to Weeze, check it out on the maps), even during winter, to save on the bus costs. I'm Italian/American and left my comfort to work for Ryanair in Germany and Emirates in Dubai, now in Czech republic.
I'm used to hard work, I've been through hell (I found it inspiring, so not hell, but most found it crazy), but I can recognize when something isn't worth it on the long run.
I'll do a video about this, nobody knows the details I left above, maybe cause I was a bit embarrassed, or maybe cause it never occured to me people would be interested knowing about it.
Wishing you a good day and looking forward to more of these type of discussions.
Orlando
Heyy, I have tried to get to Emirates, Ettihad, Qatar, Wizzair, LOT, Ryanair numerous times. I failed training at LOT, resigned from training at Ryanair due to previous failure in LOT despite my knowledge. Didn't have mental force to continue due to not get paid even for a day of training at LOT.
I want to be a cabin crew for some certain amount of time to raise money, travel a bit and invest as you said.
My issue is, that even after a training at LOT I acknowledged ab myself I am not that obedient, not saying his thought person.
I know that airlines e.g. emirates, ettihad looks for such people who sometimes do not have hobbies or anything that makes them creative due to the fact as you said - this job ain't creative.
Still, I am ready to sacrifice myself and work at my flaws to get that job because I love aviation, travelling and I am dreaming about estabilishing my own business as a young entrepreneur.
I am looking forward for your video how to get to Emirates because they constantly reject me after either 1st step or 1st group challange.
The problem seems to be you. Do you have another costumer service experience? Cabin Crew is similar except safety and security are added. If you couldn't handle the training, I don't think you would perform well in the everyday job. Maybe you should consider other careers.
@@seren4740 well, I got 58/60 at the ending test so it is not necessarily that I didn't have knowledge. Still test politic ( 6 sections x 10 questions - more than 1 false in one bracket - you out).
@@seren4740 btw recently got rejected after the final in Ettihad, so thanks for motivation!
Hello Orlando! Thanks for your video, think it's good to highlight different aspects of life as a cabin crew. I have to ask you something (a completely honest and straightforward question): For the past 10 years, I have been carrying a dream of working as cabin crew, but really have all the odds against me; I am extremely shy, introverted, get anxiety from adversity and am on medication for this. Not the strongest medicine then, but still. Would you dissuade me from pursuing this profession? Do you understand that my mental health is most important and I may not understand what this profession really entails? Nevertheless, the dream remains with me, because I like to travel and to provide good service. But that might not be enough I think.....so I would like some advice from someone who knows what it can be like up there in the air (and also down on the ground when you are not flying). Wishing you and your family all the best!
With kind regards
David from Sweden
Hi David,
What a lovely and honest comment you shared. I believe working as a cabin crew is the fastest way to uncover the entire globe, visit places you'd never dream going to in a lifetime. And even if you did, there would be no way you'd be able to cover as many places in one lifetime with what you get out of 3-4 years in global airline.
In your particular case, I think a therapist could recommend the best course of actions, and how to align your eagerness to discover and travel with your life/career. I do think that, getting out of your comfort zone and not taking it too seriously could help you get there, I also think that the assessment process will challenge your emotions, feelings, impulses and reveal if you're able to embark this career or not. Your assertiveness is challenged, your social skills too, you eventually will know rather quickly.
I can't really give you a straight answer, but I hope it helped you a little bit.
It's lovely to read your open comment David. And I wish you best of luck in your life endeavors.
Orlando
@@WishCasting Thanks for your reply Orlando. =) We'll simply see what the future has to offer. Take care and good luck with everything you do in life.
Don t know…worked for Alitalia for 30 years and loved every flight even though with all many issues were included of course.
Alitalia gave you long layovers right? I know some people that came from Alitalia (pilots and crew) they told me you'd stay for 1 week long layovers! That's a better rest than 24 hours Emirates provides for cabin crew on their layovers.
Imagine, Dubai - Washington is departure at 22:00, you need to wake up at 18:00, so you need to literally sleep during the afternoon to be fresh for the shift (impossible). After 12-14 hours of flying, you only have a 24 hour layover. Anyways, flying is awesome. I won't hide that
@@WishCasting hi, yes it was but we are talking of the ‘80!!! After around 200 the start shorten every flight , being daily instead of one or twice a week flight, and I ended doing only 24 hrs as Emirates does. This being said yes I loved my job till the last day
Although experienced in a different work environment to most, everything you describe is really no different from any job.
Might not be different, but a shorter life because of a specific unhealthy job means that you need to make the right decisions today. There isn't the luxury of rediscovering yourself after 10 years and changing path without having received some damage
Sure, that is true what you just said...i work in a restaurant where i have no jetlag etc but i am always mentally stressed not to mention the physical aspect of it.
🙏🧿thanks. do take care.
Thank you! You too! 😊
Being a flight attendant could become an invisible labor prison...
You absolutely got it right
Life has changed. Back in the hay day people would do anything to be working as a airhostess or cabin crew. Today its just a glorified waitress or waitor. Your life is more important your health is important its very unhealthy to do this job for more than 7 years.
Exactly. It's just profit profit profit. The perks aren't as good anymore as they once were
What are you doing now a days?
I was an HR and Talent acquisition manager, now I'm freelancing
I think after a while with a lot of jobs you outgrown them… and especially if it’s costing you money like no pension and can’t buy a home and stuff
Exactly, I see it exactly as you do
I like the way you say 'My current wife' lol : )
:D That is hilarious! Didn't even realize, and it's quite funny :D Never was married before, and hope this the final stop! But maybe my subconscious Italian side betrayed me xD
Thanks for posting this testimonial. I can’t imagine the strain of being an FA, especially the physical aspects. I assume similar issues affect pilots as well, fatigue being such a big part of the job. We all depend on the airline industry but little attention is paid to the people that make it happen.
Well said!
RUclips has a Pension, Healthcare insurance and Housing Allowance for RUclipsrs? I didn't know that
To your comments:
- RUclips creates several high paying opportunities on the side other than the ones you probably are aware of. And you have it forever, until you hand it down to someone (yes there's a policy and function on Google in case you pass away). If you're a freelancer, you pay taxes and automatically pay towards your pension. The revenue you make on RUclips is so much higher than you think.
- I read your previous comment, which you deleted now I think (maybe not showing up yet)? Nobody dreams of being a cop as much as people dream of traveling the world and getting paid for it. There's an army of influencers showing off their Flight Attendants' lifestyle, luxury stays, and destinations, looking fresh through make-up, and most of the time fake smiles, for that perfect picture. Luring people into a career without highlighting its negative aspects is not good.
There are 3 groups of people in the flight attendant community: 1) the influencers we spoke above, that advertise their jobs as they were just perfect 2) the burnt-out crew that make videos of how this career broke them 3) the ones who don't care, who just move forward in their lives
I'm creating a 4th group: making people aware that it's not all gold they see glittering. Anyway, I've been doing this for a while now, and I know that saying the truth about something, especially if it resonates with other jobs, industries, and markets can spark reactions in people, which is good.
@WishCasting Yawn. I can say the same thing about owning several rental properties, stock portfolio and work from Home business which I have. Sounds easy but not everyone will achieve that because there was a ton of work and sleepless nights to get there. Heck, I can say my passion is Professional Soccer or be Luka or Steph Curry but I know aside from Genetics how much sacrifice is needed to get there. And you're promoting RUclips where the burn out rate is quite high because you're pressured to make interesting content every few days or your channel will flush down the toilet.
Everybody can be a flight attendant. Not everyone can be Luka or Steph Curry. It's not the right comparison. I don't promote RUclips (quote me if you can), I said that's the path I'm going down with, and that following a passion instead of becoming numb to the apparent benefits airlines give you is a good thing.
And it's not just RUclips you do when you do RUclips. Again, please do some research. RUclips is maybe 30% of a RUclipsr's income, and it all brings a lot of joy. I haven't put a single video up in 3 years and yet I still made income. It's an interesting avenue, certainly not for everyone, but that's my life.
The takeaway message is: follow your passion, not all that glitters is gold, life is short so do something you like and that doesn't shorten your life
@WishCasting Anyone can be a RUclipsr blah blah blah. There's a lot of lucrative careers that are not YT so your comment is worthless.
@@WishCastingNobody dreams of being a cop as much as what you're doing shows how full you are of yourself. But hey, it's your channel so you can promote yourself all you want.
Is that USD 3k per week?
Per month
Per month. The company pays for your rent, transport and utilities. That's a big thing since it's expensive. But still the salary isn't competitive anymore if you're looking after your pension. Dubai is very expensive.
Worst pay in the world. Despite that I applied at several airlines but from an employee with a candid inside info told me and a relative, I was not gay and even if not gay my mannerisms weren’t flamboyant or effeminate enough. Now looking back it makes sense based on all the interview panels I sat in front of every job app. I’m a 6’3" bearded lumber jack/ cop look so I don’t fit the gay/gay supporter demographic.
You are wrong. "...a 6’3" bearded lumber jack/ cop" is very gay. In fact no other other types can be "gayer"..
I didn’t have any of those mannerisms either and I was crew for 21 years . If it’s your passion then go for it you will get in eventually. Yes unless your a purser or senior cqbin crew the money is poor . I stopped flying when the 747-400 was scrapped and much happier now I’m not flying . It was a great experience but it plays havoc with your health and skin after around 5 years . Best wishes Philip 🇬🇧
Yeah sure😂 you are just bitter and there are lots of people with the appearance you describe as "jock" in airlines. Gays surely are not the preferred candidates in Emirates and Etihad.
$2000? Per week? Per month?
It's 3k per month! But I didn't mention accommodation, bills and transport are paid for, plus you get layover money
I'm wondering why you said it until now, you hadn't said it while you were working in the company, also the hate is just on the Arabic companies. The salary I believe has helped you to build your life. Come on, all the job are energy consuming.
Orlando is a good friend of mine-we joined Emirates at the same time, and he's sharing the real experience of working there. Let's not turn this into a culture debate, because that's not what this is about. The reality of working with Emirates is quite different from how it appears. Yes, the salary is low compared to the market. For example, your base pay is around 1,000 euros, and if you’re sick (which happens often when flying), you don’t get the flying hours payment. There are many cases where crew members get injured on board and have to live on just the basic salary. Some face injuries lasting up to 12 months, and with no social security to cover the rest, the financial strain can be severe.
I did say it during employment, I just wasn't doing RUclips ! And trust me, everyone on every flight was saying the same. The money is too little if you considered everything. Emirates did help me build my life, but salary isn't the only thing that builds it. Like my mom always told me "money can always be spent and made, but time cannot". And about any job being energy consuming, that's true! But the flight attendant one kills you quicker. What you do in your life is more important than ever in this case, given the shorter time you live.
Thanks Sharif! Miss you khalas maifrend...! I agree with what you said. To the point and very true. People usually take this career for granted, just like we did, but reality kicks you in the face once you're in and familiar with the differences to other jobs, in other countries. Research is key, too bad new joiners are typically very young and just want to travel, they don't think about it and just jump in this career. But that's life. And Emirates is a fantastic job for a few of your young years!
When you work any job, one is executing the same activities every day
I disagree. If you work in recruitment for example you advertise on Fridays, you meet with hiring managers to create job descriptions and understand what the job entails. You meet with potential new clients and pitch, you make decisions with other c-level executives on the best hire, you are part of the hiring process, you screen candidates, you travel to meet your accounts and potential new ones, there are so many jobs with varied tasks and responsibilities. If you're in an operational role, with limited functions then yes (manufacturing roles, operators, technicians). The job market is very divers and it can't be generalized.
Is Emirates owned and operated by the government? UAE is extremely wealthy place.
Emirates is government-owned. It is a subsidiary of The Emirates Group, which is totally owned by the government of Dubai through the Investment Corporation of Dubai. Although it is government-owned, Emirates operates as a commercial entity, competing globally with other airlines. And it has its own CEO and executive suite.
ITS AN INVESTMENT ON A VERY SMALL RETURN
The return is endless memories of travels around the globe. That I'm convinced of. For the rest, very little return yes. Especially if spending habits are trash
"Boo hoo!!: I lost dis guy at 2:33.
Was nice having you with us Donal 🙃
Bullies are nothing but cowards who hide behind keyboards
Completely agree.
Qatar, Emirate,Saudi , Riyadh , flydubai etc……..Middle East airlines consider you as salvor.
They think they have right to fire all of you anytime, that’s the reason has NO Union.
So I compare salary actually not so high. In desert ( I have been those countries) nobody want to
Stay so those airline provide bus, housing allowance etc but most of flights depart at night,
Minimum rest hours etc your health rapidly deteriorate and it affect your life too.
Do not join Middle East airlines most important thing Islamic country, why you never bothered ??
You just lose your health , youth in dry desert !,
only 3k?
Is that per week?
Trolley Dolley to HR😂😂😂😂 Sounds like you are way overqualified for a job in HR.
“Being Cabin Crew”. There is no A before cabin crew. This is the most irritating thing about working in the Middle East. People will say “annual leaves”; when it’s Leave (no S). Basic English.
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Can you speak basic Arabic? No? Then then have a coke and shut up 😂
2000 $ is a very lousy salary tbh
Yes, but for most of the candidates who come from the "ass cracks of the world" this is a huge salary - $2K-$5K per month
It should be increased, that's for sure. But on the flip side, the company provides accommodation,transport and utilities for free. Plus discounts wherever you go. Still not good enough for those that try saving
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