Theaetetus by Plato: “What Is Knowledge?”
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- A discussion of the images and arguments made in Plato’s Theaetetus.
Theaetetus text: classics.mit.edu/Plato/theatu....
Recommended if you like:
Hippies Minor by Plato
Protagoras by Plato
Plutarch’s Lives
The Analects of Confucius
The Sea, The Sea by Iris Murdoch
#booktube
#classicscommunity
My philosophy teacher at uni gave me the Theatetos as the first-week reading. We haven't read any philosophy beforehand.
Oh wow, that’s jumping into the deep end! Best of luck with your courses.
@@ramblingraconteur1616 Thanks!
Mine did as well. Thats why I’m here.
our prof gave us Heraclitus
My teacher did that too. Luckily I did have some experience with philosophy.
I have adhd and find it really hard to concentrate in lectures, this video is so easy to listen to. You explain this topic so well. Thank you!
I don't leave comments on this platform. Heck, I rarely even hit the "like" button! I just wanted to say thank you for this video. I recently started my Ph.D. in public health and my professor assigned a reading that is all about epistemology and includes references/cites parts of Theaetetus. I can't tell you how overwhelmed I felt trying to understand (I barely remember any philosophy from my college days, which was 15+ years ago!). Your discussion was so refreshing, so thank you!
Thanks for the kind words! I am glad it was helpful. Best of luck in your studies. Public health is certainly an area where we need more thoughtful, reflective minds at work.
Best, Jack
Great talk about the book. Now I'm even more excited to read it. Thanks man.
Egad! Someone else who read this under-appreciated book. Great introductory overview of it, too. Have an awesome new year! :D
Wow, thanks for the kind words! Same wishes for this new year to you as well.
Do you have a favorite dialogue from Plato?
Cheers, Jack
Gettier examples hold a special place in my heart, because I've encountered real-life Gettier examples in my line of work (software development). Meaning, I've had scenarios where I could point to a "justified true belief" about a problem (eg: I can correctly diagnose a problem based on meaningful/relevant evidence), but I also have such major holes in my understanding such that my diagnosis/understanding of the problem is paradoxically all wrong and my "justified true belief" can hardly be said to constitute "knowledge" at all. It's been awhile since I read this dialog, I will have to revisit it!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
ami1649 or Ivan's Nightmare That’s a great example and evidence of how so many of the problems Plato wanted to explore still resonate. I see it frequently teaching when kids have an incomplete understanding but can intuit towards a solution, though the gaps become more exposed when creating actual math models.
I knew there was a phrase for the specific epistemological problem but hadn’t made the connection to Gettier, so thanks for sharing!
I hope you have a great start to the week.
Best, Jack
im going to cry bc my high school teacher is making us write 3000 words in 8 hours about this. Thank you for the awesome summary and analysis. ur a g
Best of luck with that. This is certainly one of the denser offerings from Plato. I hope you have a great week.
Cheers, Jack
Thanks for this overview Jack! I think I have this, but I've never read it
Raised to Walk No problem, I hope your week is starting well.
Best, Jack
This is great! Thanks for touching on this dialogue, Jack. My mind rambles on when reading Plato 🤣🤣
Everyone who reads it must Converse Haha, thanks, Noah. One of my closest friends and colleagues was once kicked out of a class in college for asking, “Who’s Sow-crates?”
@@ramblingraconteur1616 haha **finger gun to temple** get a grip, man!!
Everyone who reads it must Converse The best/worst part is that it was a genuine question! He didn’t know how “Socrates” is pronounced. Apparently the professor didn’t care.
@@ramblingraconteur1616 just watched too much "Bill & Ted" ugh.... Too funny
Everyone who reads it must Converse parts of Excellent Adventure were filmed in Phoenix. The mall in that movie just closed!
Theaetetus was my first Platonic dialogue. It took me some hours to read it, because I kept making notes and re-reading some parts.
I find this dialogue one of the best introductions to Plato's mind, because it's already in the late stages of his ideas, so there's a lot less Socrates and a lot more Plato, this added to the fact that it's a dense and very complex dialogue, which, at least in my case, intrigues and challenges in a way that you become more curious to read what else this brilliant mind has to say.
Disclaimer: English isn't my first language, so I apologise for any grammatical errors.
Hi Marcelo, that’s a really interesting approach that despite the complexity of the text and ideas it hews closer to Plato’s thought rather than repeating Socrates or using him as a filter. I really enjoyed this dialogue, and I wonder how I would feel if I read it before so many of the early works I had explored.
I’m planning to reread the Apologia in January and compare that to the Apologia Xenophon wrote, and your comment is definitely informing my thinking around that.
Thanks again for sharing! I hope that you have a wonderful weekend.
Best, Jack
Man, I can’t get through Plutonic dialogs in one sitting. I have this problem with taking a few sentences and then spending lord knows how long going on a tangent in my mind where I assume it looks like I’m reading but in my mind I’m really somewhere else challenging what I just read. My wax is incredibly important and never seems to retain its shape.
The CodeX Cantina I think that happens to all of us when reading at some point! The tangents do have a tendency to fly with Plato. I usually read with a small notebook in reach where I note page numbers but nothing else and then go back to those pages on a break to reflect again.
I hope your week is starting well.
Best, Jack
Yup, Pluto's dialogues with Persephone.
Hi Jack. This was a fascinating discussion, especially since I just decided not long ago to make an in depth study of the dialogues of Plato. I just finished The Symposium the other day. It seems to me that there would be many, many forms of knowledge such as intellectual, emotional, etc. Would you advise to read Theaetetus next for someone like me who is just beginning to read Plato deeply? Thanks Jack, have a good week.
I would like to recommend a great book I just read by Bettany Hughes called The Hemlock Cup: Socrates, Athens, and the Search for the Good Life, if you haven;t read it I am sure you would enjoy it.
Lillian Nieswender This was less straightforward than the Symposium (though there are fewer characters and arguments). I would at least recommend Protagoras before Theaetetus because his thinking hovers over the first half of the dialogue.
I saw the recommendation below. Thank you! I hope your week has started well.
Best, Jack
Lillian Nieswender Also, Meno is a very short dialogue that also leans into very similar themes to Theaetetus.
@@ramblingraconteur1616 Thank you Jack, I will definitely check it out.
This was one of the most difficult Socratic dialogues that I've read.
I agree! I haven’t read The Laws or Parmenides, so those may be more challenging when I get to them.
I hope you’re having a great and safe week. Thanks for stopping by!
Best, Jack
Thankyou
Happy to share! Hope this week is going well for you.
Best, Jack
( REHAB TIME! ) KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS DIFFERS FROM KNOWLEDGE OF THE REASON FOR THE FACT. FACTS OVA FEELINGS!