Bagraim: ANC’s threat to estate agents via BEE ownership an election ploy, unconstitutional
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- The DA’s shadow minister of labour Michael Bagraim says his party will fight the ANC-driven proposal that will force thousands of South African estate agents to hand over to new owners or close down their businesses. In this vibrant interview with BizNews editor Alec Hogg, Bagraim also discusses suggestions that the party’s weakening in the polls is directly correlated to a refusal to rule out a coalition with the ANC (as a ‘least worst’ option for SA after May 29.)
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They need to challenge BEE as a gazette policy and remove it from every sector of the economy period.
Simple, pure Racism
Simple strategy to address the legacy of apartheid and colonialism.
@@sizwenkosi8882 by oppressing people simply on the colour of their skin? how is that addressing the problem? please do explain.
@@MikeB-3791 Apartheid economy continues in the democratic era in SA why is SA most unequal country in the world why ? How to address that ? Apartheid government intensional empowered white peoples and oppression the majority,you never complained instead you enjoyed the privilege but now it’s to Equalise both races you complain 🤷🏿♀️
@@sizwenkosi8882 trying to equalise people just brings with it ineptitude and wide scale failure. There is no measure of equality, how do you measure it. For example, Once someone becomes a millionaire, they then are not equal to a billionaire, should they then complain about not being equal to the billionaire? No - that would be pathetic. This is not how a capitalistic (free enterprise) economy works. This rubbish about equality needs to stop. It’s not equality that needs to fixed, it’s poverty which needs to be addressed. Address poverty on a broad scale you will address most of South Africa’s problems.
What democracy son . No such thing . All we have is the corrupted arithmetic of majority rule. Vula mehlo wakho
BBBEE, reverse apartheid!
Why SA is most unequal country in the world ? The majority race are in poverty live like animals and why ?
PLEASE DA, say publicly that you will NEVER enter a coalition with the ANC!!
I doubt, they'll do that😂😂😂Helen and John have publicly said they are considering going into coalition with ANC
@@biko8229 Stop talking kak. There are 3 videos off the top of my head were John has said they will never join with the ANC. I've seen plenty of post from your account. You constantly try to spread lies and hate. So just f##k off.
The numbers speak for themselves,
@@biko8229 they said they aren't
@@________7811 Oh, I was not aware of them backtracking. Last I heard they said if the moonshot fails to get the numbers, their strategy to prevent an ANC/EFF coalition would be for them to coalesce with the ANC.
Our politicians in general seem confused, I think most of them know that they have failed the people in a big way. That is why people might not give any 1 party a national majority.
It's also unconstitional to have no water yet here we sit with no water
They make me sick
BEE is one thing, what happens when the ANC team up with EFF and remove all property rights completely!
The EFF have said categorically that with them in power ALL land with be owned by the state!
exactly the same thing which occurred in Zimbabwe. They are a complete disaster now
And then every person who can leave will. And the investors will just exit like mad.
@@raymondtromp7472 Trust when I say they have already
#VOETSEKANC2024 😑😑🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
This means the ANC could do this with law firms. . Medical centre's.. and the list is endless.. Cadre deployment 2.0
I will sti pick an agent of my choice otherwise I sell my house via a lawyer skipping out the middle man.
DA, your double tongue and failure to align with PA, will cost you.
You are correct. The DA have to specifically announce that they will by no means go into coalition with the ANC or EFF.
VOTE PA GAYTON HY SAL BEE HANG AAN SY NEK TOT HY VREK😂
Until the time when they do. What politicians say and DO is 2 different things. Do not trust anyone.
Why ? Nothing stopping black estate agents from their own businesses
Sure, but they want to eliminate the (white) competition in the industry, or put it under the control of black only hands. It is not a trivial and inexpensive task to grow an agency in an industry that suffers badly in economic down cycles.
I dont hire unionised people, i already pay my lads above the industry standard and i look out for em like i do my friends.
This way we continue to weld and fabricate while mobs tear down gates and apply their usual violence.
My old man set this thing up with 51percent bee, shareholders who have no idea about the industry, they gave no capital and they have no say in how i run my business but ive got a fantastic bee cert, obviously i use local made every chance I get which adds to the certs value.
To be honest we make sure to keep profits well in check.
I could expand, its a matter of bothering with large value tenders.
My experience with full black owned companies in my industry especially those connected to the gov have a habit of giving out enquiries to price their own jobs because they have no idea how to do it. Im gonna start charging for time wasted.
Drop all the red tape and jobs will increase.
Urgent Court action is required now 🥵🥵🥵
Thank you Alec for keeping the DA accountable.
If the land belongs to thec,,, there will be no estate agents,, , you cannot sell property that belongs to the state,,,, its not yours
wHY ARE WE not pushing WEE ?
Half the show was about ANC and Not Estate Agents and the proposed BEE.. Not useful at all
The partnership will be between the MPC and the ANC and not the DA as a single party.
Desperately trying to keep their egg heads above water, let the constitution law prevail
That will not work when ANC changes the construction as they have been doing
Good governance is underpinned by five core principles. An organization that uses good governance is one that always, in word and action, demonstrates: accountability; leadership; integrity; stewardship; and transparency
Where did it have to make sense with the ANC.
Those who implemented BBBEE and who supported this must be charged accordingly. It’s a crime against humanity plus unconstitutional. Let’s not overlook that.
Our moral vestige has never rested with the ANC,those who thought that they where non-racist freedom fighters,have been mislead.
How will RP and FF force the DA to have a vote on Referendum. They will not not vote with the DA so where is the stick?
Referendum for what? Independence? Never happening - it will turn WC into officially Apartheid 2.0 (apart rather than inclusive) - liberals what inclusivity as long it’s not on their door step…so hypocritical…
So does this mean - that if they pass this latest proposed legislation - that people will have to sell their property privately 🤔
The DA is slow on marketing and drop the ball at allmost every slam dunk opportunity to sink tha cANCer. They need some smart, feisty strategist! Like Colonel Chris Wyatt.
SURELY WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING A GOVT OF NATIONAL UNITY BETWEEN ANC AND THE COALITIAN OPPOSITION 50/50
I just can't work with the ANC the DA stds for truth so stand for truth and a party that makes things work
Bussiness needs to push back.. but they roll over and cower in the corner
Hi Mr Baigram.. pls tell me your thoughts on the bibc? Which is only applicable in the Boland and cape town. Whether you work out of your garage with 1 employee or you have 1000 employees. Do you think that is fair practice to paint all employers with the same brush? The list of non compliant companies is now too large to upload on the website.
The DA is not an alternative, its the same thing just in blue. the only alternative is the VF+ because the have values. The Da is flexible on values and has weak leadership.
did the cANCer doing ever made sense
Has the property industry transformed at all. I don't think it has at all. Are they training enough. I don't think so. So the property industry is one of the least transformed industry in SA. Something needs to change
I see my Original Quote ( was the very first on this matter?) has been "removed"
The time has come to ignore the ANC and its rulings. All estate agents should ignore the "fidelity certificate" and keep trading. BEE is theft. Voetsek ANC!
The only way a small party becomes a big party - is to vote for them 😂 Herman Mashaba seems a good option.
That's why we need cape independance.. This is bullshit..
Well, well, well, now since SHELL petroleum decided to leave South Africa because of the BEE element the rest will just follow. Well done ANC for making sure MORE people are jobless! What more do you want to take from South Africa??
What folks also need to understand, if it has not already been said, is that if an Agency does not have a valid Fidelity Fund Certificate then none of the agents working for that agency will be able to get their Fidelity Fund Certificate and this is absolutely tragic!
Hoping for the ANC to have people that will think properly is like suggesting 'pigs might fly."
You're a legal practitioner and worried they will take your home.? Did you read their manifesto ?
Fight this in court.
BEE is well entrenched, no court has stopped it thus far.
DA and ANC have already had extensive foreplay.
Conclusion coming up on 29 May.
9:51
Whether the DA gets into bed with the anc or not, they will still support BBBEE as prt of their policy. Its in their policies on their web page without actually saying it in so many words.
EXACTLY SIR IF THEY DONT SUPPORT BEE THEY WILL NOT GET BLACK VOTES
VOTE PA GAYTON
I also expect the DA to publicy declare they won't go into coalition with ANC. It will determine my vote!!!!
They will lie to you, to get your vote
DA are complicit. How did they as the official opposition allow S.A. to get to this level?? DA also support hamas as well. Sponsered R400k for the hamas palestinian soccer team to play in Cape Town. You have been lied to by steenhuizen and his DA
Axe the tax
When a nice man - gentlemanly
I'm an Agent. I went from being a School Teacher to property. The barriers of entry are minimal. You need a laptop (R5 to R10k and some Agencies will provide one) and you need to be mobile (Drivers lessons, licence and a car 🚗 i started with an old R15k Mazda 323). What's all this Guavament nonsense costing? Rather just take the money and give an applicant a R30k grant to buy an old skandonk, and a laptop. Doesn't matter what colour your skin is, that's all it takes to get into this game.
this is a leninist policy
Yes, it is Jesuit policy. The same policy the Bolsheviks' used in the Soviet union. Own nothing, destroy public cohesion (family unit, education and the list goes on). All businesses must be controlled by the state. I would say they have been following this plan pretty well.
ANC and EFF will have inuff to form government make no mistake they will unless DA go into agreement with DA
Interesting talk, However Michael is completely wrong about estate agencies, for many of us in this industry we know that agencies are mostly large national and even international property agencies. The small mom and pop shows he refers to are the minority and don't feature on the same level. It's disappointing that even the whistleblower is misinformed.
#VoetsekANC
Labour laws have created posts that are making useless people very wealthy for producing nothing for example if someone gets hurt on the job that same person who can vote is now not responsable his direct boss is so commensence does not apply and should the entire bussiness be compliant the black consultant that sighned his training peice of paper is never held responceble for vicarios responsibility please forgive my spelling
Fidelity and estate agents? a contradiction in terms. It's hard to imagine a bunch of sharks getting worse... but SA proves the lowest common denominator, can always get lower.
Do you know how many lawyers, CEO's like Mnr Jooste, and accountants, are in jail? But you can count on one hand how many criminal anc politicians have been jailed, estate agents are Sunday school teachers compared to those bandits.🤣
Thats a good thing
You believe in DA policy that's not pro poor
You will sing a defrint tune come 1 June
Well for black estate agents it will work.
Well if 6000 agencies close down it will not work for black agents. Of course, a bunch of 100% black owned companies will emerge after a couple of years. It is not a trivial job growing an agency in an industry that is badly affected by cyclical economic downturns and political blunders.
6000 businesses likely to close, equals +/- 30,000 extra unemployed people. Vote Western Cape Referendum party or sink.
The constitution is the problem we should be electing our leaders ourselves without parties running the show I am voting @ohh
This misinformation about a da anc coalition has been constantly brought up by journalists discussing the election as if it was reality
The problem with the da is they are wattsapp warriors who are incapable of even managing one ward in jhb south
The problem with the anc is they are wattsapp warriors who have bankrupt the entire country
Let ANC and EFF join together. ❤
You are OK with a moonshot coalition but when majority black parties stand together then it's an issue. No wonder gayton and penuel attend these conferences 😂😂😂
Vote 🗳️ DA
And see your vote go to the ANC.
@@themalejodietaylor2599 vote for Pedro then 👍
MENSE VOTE PA GAYTON
MCKENZIE HY GAAN MR BEE
HAS BEE N MAAK
For a gangster???
Never.
HZ meant stop moaning from the outside - moan inside - simple
Biznews quoting institutions like IRR 😂😂 racist organizations in the name, of race relations.
Apartheid EXCLUDES race...what a dumb comparison 😂
Its definitely not an option for the DA to ever join the ANC
Lot of rubbish
No need for estate agents anyway.
Sell private.
@@tonythebomb4147 Lots of Nigerians looking to buy. Hope you are up to date with contract and money laundering laws. 30 years in jail for money laundering.🤣
@@JackSmith-ou1dg more up to date than you.
Been around estate agents for years and have friends in the game.
@@tonythebomb4147 But you are not selling your home. Right?
@@JackSmith-ou1dg nope when I sell I do it privately.
Nothing new Pam Golding, Chas Everitts always sold Franchises to Black's who could afford them.
Its about time its compulsory, bravo 👏 🙌 Estate Agency business in SA has always favored white agents. Black Estate Agents don't get placed in upmarket areas cause they are Black. If youre Black, your chances are to work in the Township, same in Capetown. A white rookie Agent makes millions in commission per year.
I am a fully qualified Estate Agent and 7 years experience in Northern Surbubs of Johannesburg, hardly made ends meet whilst my white counter parts only just had to show up with zero education and no experience, within a month they close a sign a mandate, close a deal. I trained one sweet but uneducated Afrikaans lady who was divorced with small kids in Fourways. When she knocked, doors opened. Beautiful, blonde and blue eyes. There are a lot of younger Black South Africans who studied Real Estste at University level but unless employed but corporate Real Estate companies, no chances of success in Residential, forget about owning.
The best sales person is the person who sells the most, no need for legislation.
Show the white rookie making millions🤣 You are talking pure sh1t. Your English is shabby. I'd love to see you writing up a legally binding contract.🤣But anyway, there is nothing stopping you opening gbone estate agency, what is stopping you? Too much hard work?
What is stopping you opening africanwise estate agency?
Atleast the ANC ended apartheid and now their Fighting for Economic participation of the African child so you cant say voetsekanc while you see others fighting to participate and being neglected while others are enjoying the fruits of racism. Theyve been in power for 30 years there are positives and theres more to come.
So tired of the WC being shoved down everyone’s throats! Gauteng has never historically or presently be WC thank goodness…so using the DA formula to win the hearts of Gauteng is the tone deafness…
You do not need black ownership for a BBBEE certificate.....anyways.
If you factually examine who does the bulk of property sales and legal transfers , its very clear that the property industry has refused to transform to allow Black owned estate agencies and Legal Firms of colour opportunities for growth.
White control persists. Estate agencies are dominated by white agents who support established White Law firms for bonds and conveyancing transfers. BANKS continue to support large White Law Firms and ignore transformation. Firms of colour are limited to low hanging fruit on Bank legal panels. Large White Corporates & Developers dictate to Banks who chase profits not a healthy equitable society. TRANSFORMATION DEFINITELY NEEDED IN THIS INDUSTRY !