Had a bit of a senior moment here. Got my first EV last month, watched this, found it very useful and went to try out a rapid charger on Sunday, Got Ionity confused with Instavolt after seeing the latest Zapmap news letter and wondered why I was only charged 35p per kWh after seeing Williams Cox's comment below. In mitigation the Instavolt place at Banbury looks quite similar to the Ionity one shown here - all was good.
Instavolt are the best charging network in the UK right now. The machines are well maintained, you don't have to use an app and some sites like supermarkets offer cheaper pricing.
One exception to the keeping your car between 40-80% when not in use is the BMW i3. For periods up to three months, BMW recommend keeping the car plugged in as it has a software restricted ~20% buffer the user can't access. Doing this will also trickle charge the 12v which has been handy lockdown. 😀
the car manufacturers behind ionity get a huge discount bringing the cost down to normal levels, kia/hyundai have now joined the ionity group, so hopefully they can get that discount before long
The thing is though that that 69p will take you 4.5 miles in the e-Niro. My old hybrid car, of similar performance, did 33 miles per gallon and with petrol at £4.50 per gallon, 69p worth of petrol would take me about 5 miles. So 69p per kWh is not completely outrageous and worth paying for good service and availability on a long journey. On a night charge at home 69p will buy me 30 miles worth though I must admit.
Thank you man. I have 2022 Kia Nero ev an I always wondered this. I am at a Electrify America charging location and it says up to 150 kW charging speed but on the screen while charging it says 74 kW and under but there is a guy pulled up next to me in a electric vehicle but different vehicle and he’s charging thing said about 124 kW I was like WTF 🤬 Thanks to your info here now I know it’s because Kia just has a shit battery in the Nero
@majinbuu19831 : You are right about the reason for the charging speed difference, but I think you arrived at the wrong conclusion. The reason for the low charge rate on the Niro EV is not the batteries; rather it is the vehicles on-board 'charger', which is actually more of a charge-management unit. This unit limits the Niro to 80kW DC, while the Kia EV6 Long-Range uses the same batteries (from what I have been able to find out), but the on-board charger handles up to 233kW DC; currently the Niro is one of the slowest, while the EV6 is one of the fastest. I guess this is a conscious choice by Kia to keep manufacturing costs under control. They would also want to have differences between the Niro fleet and the EV6 fleet, without too much price overlap between the top Niro and the bottom EV6. Car Salesmen are always keen to 'upsell'! I still like my Niro. 😜
Had a bit of a senior moment here. Got my first EV last month, watched this, found it very useful and went to try out a rapid charger on Sunday, Got Ionity confused with Instavolt after seeing the latest Zapmap news letter and wondered why I was only charged 35p per kWh after seeing Williams Cox's comment below. In mitigation the Instavolt place at Banbury looks quite similar to the Ionity one shown here - all was good.
Instavolt are the best charging network in the UK right now. The machines are well maintained, you don't have to use an app and some sites like supermarkets offer cheaper pricing.
One exception to the keeping your car between 40-80% when not in use is the BMW i3. For periods up to three months, BMW recommend keeping the car plugged in as it has a software restricted ~20% buffer the user can't access. Doing this will also trickle charge the 12v which has been handy lockdown. 😀
The only problem with ionity is, at 69p pkwh it's twice the price of petrol.
Thanks for the insight!
the car manufacturers behind ionity get a huge discount bringing the cost down to normal levels, kia/hyundai have now joined the ionity group, so hopefully they can get that discount before long
The thing is though that that 69p will take you 4.5 miles in the e-Niro. My old hybrid car, of similar performance, did 33 miles per gallon and with petrol at £4.50 per gallon, 69p worth of petrol would take me about 5 miles. So 69p per kWh is not completely outrageous and worth paying for good service and availability on a long journey. On a night charge at home 69p will buy me 30 miles worth though I must admit.
I went there on Sunday and Instavolt charge 35p per kWh so is better than I thought
@@markkunes9711 Agreed, for the odd journey its fine.
Love the t-shirt
Where did u get that 240 adapter for charger
Does anyone know the length of the cable that comes supplied with the car? The one for home charging?
I've been charging at a fast charger with 175 kW max but my Niro only charges at 32-34kW max. Do you know how I can increase this acceptance rate?
Thank you man. I have 2022 Kia Nero ev an I always wondered this. I am at a Electrify America charging location and it says up to 150 kW charging speed but on the screen while charging it says 74 kW and under but there is a guy pulled up next to me in a electric vehicle but different vehicle and he’s charging thing said about 124 kW I was like WTF 🤬 Thanks to your info here now I know it’s because Kia just has a shit battery in the Nero
@majinbuu19831 : You are right about the reason for the charging speed difference, but I think you arrived at the wrong conclusion. The reason for the low charge rate on the Niro EV is not the batteries; rather it is the vehicles on-board 'charger', which is actually more of a charge-management unit. This unit limits the Niro to 80kW DC, while the Kia EV6 Long-Range uses the same batteries (from what I have been able to find out), but the on-board charger handles up to 233kW DC; currently the Niro is one of the slowest, while the EV6 is one of the fastest. I guess this is a conscious choice by Kia to keep manufacturing costs under control. They would also want to have differences between the Niro fleet and the EV6 fleet, without too much price overlap between the top Niro and the bottom EV6. Car Salesmen are always keen to 'upsell'! I still like my Niro. 😜
Thanks!