OFF TO THE RACES! 2017 Ram 4.56 Gear Swap Prep AAM 11.5 & 9.25 Differentials
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Part 2 of 4.56 Gear Swap: OFF TO THE RACES! 2017 Ram 4.56 Gear Swap Prep AAM 11.5 & 9.25 Differentials
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As has been mentioned, the AAM axles started in 2003 model year... But one correction to what Andy said about the spider gears. They do indeed spin while driving straight in 2wd on trucks with a Central Axle Disconnect. That intermediate shaft is spinning as well, it will spin 2x wheel speed, this is how the front drive shaft doesn't spin. So keeping up with fluid level and fixing any leaks in these is imperative to keeping your spider gears happy. The 94-01 2nd gen trucks faced the problem, but at the end of the day it's better than grenading transfer cases and throwing front driveshafts on the interstate.
Watching this channel has helped me made my decision, as of yesterday I'm a proud owner of a 2015 ram 2500. Thanks Steve your videos are inspirations and I'm looking forward to implementing some of your upgrades!
Awesome, that’s what it is about! Thanks for supporting us.
Great choice letting the experts handle that. I think we are all ready for part 3!!!
Yeah, these guys definitely know their stuff! And what a great shop to not only let you film it, but to get so involved in explaining and showing details. Ready to hear your impressions, bro!
They are awesome guys!!
They went to the 11.5" AAM in 2003 with the then new, 3rd gen RAM.
If you had the HO engine, you would have the 11.8" AAM axle.
These guy's did a great job! Appreciate you shadowing them asking questions.
We’ll be back this week to overhaul the 68rfe Transmission.
Hasn't been a dana axle in a ram from the factory since the 2nd gens, 02 and prior.
Yes I do appreciate this too, as I'm familiar with changing gears benefits.
A 90 Chevy 2wd with 10" lift and 35's with 383 Stroker, LOVED having the Auburn Pro Series Posi and 4:56 gears in it.
shout out to that shop they know their stuff!!!
Make sure you go through the "re-learn" period when you switch up the trans program. It's about a 100 mile easy driving so the trans relearn it's shift points.
You see so many guys talk about their build whether you’re talking to your buddy’s or whatever and gear swapping is always overlooked! Got a new subscriber out of me my guy 🤙🏽
Welcome to the channel, Elijah!
Wish I were near these guys. I’m having trouble with my rear diff etc with my ‘17 2500. Ram says there’s no problem, but I beg to differ. There’s a good bit of “looseness”. It’s noticeable during normal driving but when towing, oh man. Loud pops and jolts
Where are you? There are great shops all over the world...
They switched to the AAM axles when they went to the 3rd gen body style. 1st & 2nd gens have the Dana. The 11.5 AAM has about 500 ft lbs of torque higher rating than a Dana 80 but has a lower gross axle weight rating
Always learning new stuff.. 👍🏻
Needed to change the slide coupler for my 4x4 and found out what I needed to know. Thanks for this!
I don't know if this comment has been made but I'm going to make it in case it has not.. correction on your timeline of aam uses by Dodge / Ram. A a m axles were Incorporated in late 2002 for the 2003 model year. Chrysler has been using American Axle manufacturing for their heavy duty lineup 2003 model year to current. Minor design changes in the housing and abs configurations, but the overall design of the axles and differentials are nearly identical from 2003.
Very informative these guys know their stuff !!!!
Can’t wait for part 3 .👍
I have 17, same truck same size tires. Not the trans problem of gear deciding, only the softness on shifts. The issue is basically the Valvebody and low fluid pressure. I got a Warranty trans partial rebuild at 95k miles, and they didn't do the Valvebody. Only the solenoid pack, torque converter, fluid pump, and 2 of the 4 Valvebody pistons. I told them the Valvebody was the biggest problem by bad design and they just ignored me and did almost everything else, probably to keep it under the 70% repair which would trigger FCA replacing the Whole trans.
I also have the EZ Link PPEI tune. With the higher fluid pressure of their Trans Tune, the shifts are bumpier/knocking. So I didn't ride it hard.
But gears are proper for oversized tires anyways, not just because of a trans problem. Most boys don't know or care about gears, because it's too expensive.
What a great shop! If I lived nearby they would earn my business
Great VLOG! Cant wait to see the rest of the series!
Thanks Mike!
Looking forward to part 3
Such a awesome channel! I've learned quite a bit just from watching you guys. It is much appreciated that you allow us to follow along and share the knowledge! Definitely have a new subscriber from me.
Thanks Dan & welcome to the channel.
WOW! Guess didn't realize how much pain in the a#% the gears would be to change it out. I have done some before late 80's don't remember it being that complex. Yeah definitely going find a reputable shop to do it. Dude thanks for the video's
Love the info, now I feel informed enough to get it done for my truck. Ypur videos are always awesome. I can never wait untill the next one.
Thanks Adam!
Your gear ratio fault code is a transmission code and is usually set due to slippage in the transmission. There should be a generic like p0700 and then another code(s) to tell you the specific gear.
The codes told me the specific gear. Trust me, it wasn’t slipping. It just didn’t know when to shift or rather it was searching for the right gear. We’re all fixed up now after the codes were cleared & the quick trans relearn procedure was completed with the Snap On tool.
Did you upgrade your trans to go with the new tuning... im willing to bet it was slipping in 5th gear. Does your EZ lynk not tell you when the convertor is locked and when it is slipping? 4th gear is 1to1 5th is overdrive and 6th is double overdrive so to speak... My mm3 tuner with warp tunes from double r diesel tells me trans line pressures (both desired and actual) along with TC lockup...
Ram has been using AAM since 2003 on Heavy duty rams.
Great video but a few mistakes especially at 15:06. - never never press a bearing out with the support pressure on the threads sides of the clamshell that will ruin and bend the tool sorry just had to mention it.
When the correct tool doesn't fit/work you have to take some chances.
Very legit and technical, I do alot of diy on my channel and my buddy asked me to help do a set of gears in ram.... be honest this a bit Intimidating of task to do. Definitely something you want to leave to professionals, can every day Joe do it ...100 freaking % !!!. Would I tackle this??? 🤷♂️ yet I gotta go watch parts 3 😂
"Good as good gets.."
happy times
Very informative. Definitely wouldn’t try this at home. Looking good so far though!!
Lots of great information. Awesome video.
Thanks Troy!
I like to heat the bearings and chill the pinions slip right on every time. Even pinions with bearings stick them in the freezer let it chill take it out get a torch heat the bearing and with a punch and chisel BOOM off
Left us with a cliffhanger!! When part 3??
Next Friday at 6pm. 😂
Ram BEAST Projects Well that guarantees I’ll have a Good Friday next week. Haha!
I’m ready to see a video posted after the swap to hear how much it’s changed the drivability and if it’s helped milage some being the trans doesn’t have to strain as much
Coming soon, I have 3 videos to edit, just need to find the time to do it.
Ram BEAST Projects sounds good, I went thru and read the comments lastnight and seen you said possibly this Friday at 6pm, I’m ready for it, been looking at a 18’ or 19’ 2500 between you and Greg A and a few others the ram is what I want to go with
Been waiting on this one!
2002 Dodge Ram was the last year for the Dana axles.
Dodge went with AAM Axles in 2003 - Present
Pete is a better man than me. Any time I woulda' opened my mouth, you'da had to turn the audio off... :)
There was a lot edited out from both of us. The struggle was REAL
Awesome content like always!
Thanks Alex!
Awesome job! I'm new to Dodge (switching from Chevy), just got a 2016 2500 Laramie Mega Cab 6.4L Hemi with 10,200 miles on it. I'm loving it but hate the mpg (7.8 miles) Don't know if you have one to get better mpg, but I'm finding your videos very helpful.
Thank you! That’s what the channel is about, helping & learning along the way.
Samuel Adams If you’re wanting better mpg’s, trade that hemi in for a Cummins diesel version. I’ve got a stock (for now) 2017 crew cab 4x4, and my average is about 22+ when at cruising speeds and mostly flat terrain.
ouch! I have 2017 Mega Cummins, 18 average 21 on Hwy with 35s. Trade!
Why are you only getting 7 or 8 mph? My 6.4 2500 is getting 11 to 12 city 15 to 17 highway.
Jeff Bennett my power wagon gets around 14 town and 18 Hwy. it did get 17 town and 22 Hwy but the bigger tires killed it
Hey man, great video. I have a 2016 ram 1500 and had it lifted with 35’s. My shift points are off pretty bad. Recalibrated the speedometer and it still isn’t right. How did you find the parts to regear? Apparently you have to replace the whole front housing? I can only find the ring & pinion and that’s it… need help asap man. Would really be appreciated.
The trick is to buy the AAM regear parts, they are OE specs
What type of warranty was given on the parts and labor in case you start having problems after the gear change? I want a gear swap for my 2016 Ram 2500 but I'm afraid of seals starting to leak alot quicker once all the factory installed gearing, bearings and seals are removed and swapped out.
with a manual trans you wouldn't have shift problems or error codes., 😊 just jerking your chain. So ram went back to a front axle disconnect in later years? My 2004 doesn't have that, front driveline and axles turn all the time.
For sure gear swap is best way to go, however, could you just use calibration to adjust shift points to at least get by with the gear swap??
Hey excellent video tutorial. Where is shop located.
Are you saying that Yukon Gear sent you their shims and th Inner diameter of the SHim they sent you was too big for the diameter of the Pinion Gear Shaft they sent?
Was that water in that differential fluid? Always good idea to change it if it was in water deep enough to be over the vent.
i have a 2017 ram 2500 mega cab cummins and has a 22inch wheels with 37inch tires with the raceme tuner and it been on a year never had a problem shifting and does not through any codes
You’re lucky, give it time.
Better looking to Gearing upgrades too before you fry your tranny !!!!!!
By chance remember the the nut sizes for the front a rear pinion nut?
Only video I can find
Im a new subcriber. I love the show, very informative. Looking to seeing what a difference the new gears make. Different topic, have you done a EGR delete on the beast. I just switched over to Cummins from hemi, and im wondering if its worth tuning my truck with out deleting it. Any info helps thanks.
Thanks for subscribing. Stay tuned for the Gear Swap results. My Ram is equipped & made safe. 😜 I know that HPP offers tuning for emission tact Rams, although I don’t the specifics on the improvements.
please just I bought a 08 f150 rear wheels not spinning do you think is the transfer case or differential when I put the car up to the air rear wheels are like locked my truck won't move at all and when it goes in gear it trys to shut off
Do you have to change the front pinion/ring gear just because you are changing the rear? Everything is independent until you activate 4wd right? So 99% of the time you are in RWD and accomplishing your goal just changing the rear ratio. If I’m wrong please explain. Thanks!
Man sure looks like it’s time for some undercoating under there! You should accent some things under there in blue!
Right! I said that like 100 times while I was under the truck during this install.
I did a gear swap and now my cruise control doesnt work smh..I have the pulsar Lt programmer and got tires, speedo and gear axle ratio matched but the crusie control is trippin..anyone got any advice?
hang on here
An AAm should have a drain plug in the bottom....
Can you change from 3.42’s to 4.56’s in your ez lynk?
I plan on contacting HPP to see if they can tweak the trans tuning a bit.
It’s like I’m gonna have to go to Pennsylvania to get my truck worked on. If you don’t mind me asking What did the labor alone run you?
I’ll have to hit up Dirty Diesels on that one. I do a lot w/ them & pay for things differently. I already have parts there waiting for another upcoming install.
456 seems too low for a diesel are you going way bigger tires
37’s, keep watching... 😉
I have a 2015 ram 2500 5.7 hemi with 35s. Looking to go from 3.73 to 4.30 or 4.56. Which do you think would be better. I tow a 11000 lb camper 5 to 8 times a year
4.10 or 4.30’s, 4.56 would be a bit much for 35’s.
How’s it going man. What is your rpm at 70 mph with the 37s and 4.56?
TIA
Qual medida de soquete usam pra retirar a porca do pinhão ?
How much did you pay for that? Parts and labor? I'm thinking about getting 4.10s
Parts will probably cost you approximately $1600.00 & labor probably anywhere from $2000.00 to $2500.00+. If you’re local, hit up Chester County Transmissions.
I'm thinking of going from 3.73 to 4.56 to run 37's easier. Very helpful!!!
Anyone know where is shop is located an a name? I have 3.42 with 68rfe, and I can't stand it. I'd like 3.73. Right now going down the highway at 85mph my rpm is barely at 1600 my opinion 1600rpm is to low cruzing down the highway hard on tanny and 85mph honestly is to fast to Cruz at. And 5th gear I'm doing 70mph an rmp at 2100 it's terrible. 3.42 should have never been put in a HD truck!
what a pain in the ass with the different bearing races and shims
So how much can one expect to pay for labor on a job like this?
Well, with complications it took 4 days to complete & without complications, it wouldn’t have taken 2.5 days. So easy $2K+ in labor for both diffs.
Thanks for the info! I knew it wasn’t going to be cheap. Can’t wait to hear how it drives now and what rpms are like.
Did you get a locker installed?
I ended up on this cus we did one at work today. We needed a 6x torque multiplayer and a 4ft breaker to crush the sleeve and was wondering if you needed the same. But you never showed the tightening of the rear pinion. Did you need to get crazy like we did? We had at least 1200 pounds of torque before it started to move.
Yeah, we ran into problems & I ended helping instead of filming most of the rear.
@@BEASTProjects So same kind of thing?
Yup
I HAVE CHANGED MY GEARS TO 4.56S I HAVE A 14 6.7 CUMMINS I'M RUNNING PPEI TUNES WITH EZ LYNK I HAD THEM MAKE ME A CUSTOM SHIFT POINT JUST FOR MY TRUCK ALL YOU DO IS DO A DATA LOG WITH THE EZ LYNK AND SEND IT TO YOUR TUNER THEY WILL COPY YOUR POINTS AND SEND YOU THE DOWNLOAD JUST USE THE MANUAL SHIFT AND PICK WHERE YOU WANT EACH GEAR TO SHIFT IM RUNNING STOCK TIRES IT CHANGED MY POINTS A LOT ATLEAST THEY GOT ME SQUARED AWAY MY TRUCK IS A NEW ANIMAL NOW GOING FROM 3.42 TO 456 ON STOCK TIRES IS LIKE GOING FROM A 0 TUNE TO A 120 HP TUNE
Do you guys have a supplier for the front gear sets in the new ram 1500's
Yes, hit up www.chestercountytransmissions.com/
Is this a hemi or diesel motor?
My 07.5 cummins didnt have that actuator for the 4x4 thats weird !
It’s in the newer Rams
Started in the 13 3500, and 14 2500
jesus that is super involved
Hello guys how can I get in touch with you. I have some problem with my axle.
www.chestercountytransmissions.com
Man i got a 16 with 37 all deleted and mine dose not do that. thats wired and u got trans programing i dont on mine and mine has a little bit of shifting shuter but not bad
What kind of trans tuneing you have
I guess all trans are a bit different because i got the 3.42 gears also man i get like 20 mpg doing 75 u should of upgrade your rear chunk and put positive rear end
15:03 Improper use of tools is not to good of a sign to see when someone is doing such a job that requires a precision fit. had he done this properly the press would have had no trouble at all doing this job.
My comment is find another gear shop these guys don’t have the right tools to work on your truck this video makes them look like a joke do you want to take it to a real gear shop go to tri county in Pomona California or the gear shop in Paramount California tell them dan sent you you’ll be very happy with the outcome they’re awesome guys and they do have the right tools in the ride experience to make your truck just like it was from the factory you don’t use a blow torch to take a bearing off of a perfectly good Pinyan and ruin the Pinyan with the heat never seen anything like that what a joke
turn that splitter 90° noobs