The closer you stand to the boss the more damage you can deal to the shield via reflective and ricochet as more of the bosses attacks and hitting you. I’ve got a OE/END/SENT hellcat with medic pump and 5/5 reflective and I can get the whole fight done in 1.50 with just the occasional bust with a heavy to trigger bullet shield. Of course once the shield comes down it’s auto axe time. Great VID wiggle wiggle wiggle.
I'm getting it around 1:20 without 4* anything. His shield goes down in about :50. What is your Luck at? I think higher the luck the faster ricochet procs. Mine is in the low 20's after whiskey and happy go lucky, higher with nuka dark but whiskey is quicker to farm.
I wonder if Tanky's or Aegis might be better than Reflective for min/maxing, since they offer even higher resistances. Also, I learned from AngryTurtle that you can continuously reload a harpoon gun with Resilient to gain even more ballistic resistance.
Damage Resistance (DR) and Energy Resistance (ER) are non-linear in their scaling. Meaning more resistance doesn't mean you take less damage equally. ~350DR/ER is the hard limit, and while you Can get higher, you'll be getting single digit percentages of actual damage reduction, or less.
I switched to Medics Pump from Protocols. Is there a cool down on Medic Pump or when you get to 50% it pops a stim no matter when the last time was? Thank you! Also, Junk Shield with 100 Cork maxes out the DR with only 3 pounds of weight. You all probably know this, someone taught me this I thought I would pass it along.
@@gordiausprime614auto stim in a pice of armor, Medic pump and Born survivor. As long as you have the stim packs, it becomes very, very hard to die. But the problem with medic pump is you have to give up a jet pack and I just love jet packs!
@johnrr6 you might get lucky and find a legacy ultracite p.a helmet or arm with a jetpack mod on it I got one for my ultracite so I can run jetpack + medic pump
just a little advice, you have to count also 2 other things, the ammount of reflected projectail and the robot aim, what I m telling is the difference is significant if the aim of the robot is 100% and ricochet kick in the 100% of the time or aim is 80% and ricochet enter also 80% of the time cause the first will reflect 200% of the total damage while the second will be about 1/3 less effective. So the difference between the raider pa and vulcan is way more rappresentative then the second test
How much does each point of Luck influence richochet? Do we know? It’s honestly probably worth running +2L on each armor piece to proc Ricochet as much as possible to increase tankiness
Ive got similair numbers set up in perk cards, snd 4 star luck legendary card. Full set of vulcan with trouble shooters, full 2 star luck snd currently found 2 pieces of sentinals. I also have 1 4 star reflect piece but in effects my richochet chance is only 12%. Why woild mine be half your numbers? Is there anything that negatively effects it? Thanks
It's just based on Luck and Armor. Higher luck increases it. Heavy and power armor increase it by 50%. I do know that the display can be bugged and show the wrong %. You can unequip/equip Ricochet to see if that changes anything.
The 2% ballistic damage reduction per piece from the hellcat PA doesn't add more damage since it's only the armor rating that boosts the reflected damage. Hope this helps !
I would want to see testing in plain power armor and no modifiers. Is the reflect damage calculated before the modifiers or after. Ie...sentinels, troubleshooters, or overeaters. Also, your data may be flawed because you used sentinels. Once again, I look back to AT video demonstrating the sentinel's modifier not working correctly. If sentinels fails to work, it seems every modifier every bit of DR goes to zero which would mean low reflect or maybe even no reflect.
Wait a minute. Wait a darn minute. Is it possible that the four star effect Tankys that adds damage resist (up to 1000!) would be better for reflect damage than the actual reflective four star?! That could very well change the new reflective meta. I think that's worth a test.
You should have stranded next to the bot so none of the shots missed. Could have tested raider again while adding perks, changing one variable at a time, as we do not know if armor level or type has any effect in addition to dr. Could also test if increasing only dr vs only er had different results. Results also affected by how often you reflect but should normalize if the bot shoots you long enough.
I don't think I could ever jump back in those tin cans again ! I love running around bloodied at 15% health only seconds from death, and surprisingly, my resistance is pretty high at........ 640 damage & 535 energy with my secret service armor. In FO4 I used P.A. alot and even wore it in 76 the first year or so but since then its been great and since year 2 when I went bloodied theres been no turning back. Have fun P.A user's see you in the wasteland. Thank you for the video. ✌️😎 🎄
I use the same bloodied build most of the time, but to defeat the sentinel, I have yet to hear of anybody doing it without power armour. Has anyone been able to do without power armour?
@@Moshe_Dayan44 I was in there with a random and he rinsed it three times with no PA. I am bloodied 99% of the time but this Boss I use PA cause I sit on his head and let him destroy himself then autoaxe him before the first doors open.
@@Moshe_Dayan44if you take down en06 shield b4 it spawns it never even shoots at you - so bloody works great bc tbh extra strength for dmg and carry weight
You have to do the raid the plans aren’t tradable but all plans and Armor pieces drop from the first boss so it’s definitely possible to get all pieces and mods from the EN06 Guardian
Hey sir doesnt it works if sum1 using Aegies where it should pump up or our Resistance too right? With 3 ppl running full Aegies should give every person 750 all resistance
Ok, I stand corrected. There's a "use" for higher armor even with the diminishing returns on reducing incoming damage. Just saying 'chasing every little incremental increase' may not be practical. Note: Junk Shield... adds a straight extra 100-ish DR/ER when holding junk... will do even more reflected?
You need to stack quite a bit of % reduction effects as well. Full overeaters and dodgy, or troubleshooters. A few magazines also give robot damage reduction as well.
Awesome video - am agreeing with others though, would having a full set of Vanguard for the resistance number being higher be more useful for reflective, or something like Trouvleahooter / OE for their flat damage reduction? Not sure how you would test this but it would be nice to know - perhaps one run with OE / Trouble shooters and then another run without them, but both runs having the same Physical / Energy Resistances. If there's a difference in the damage you should see it there.
Oh interesting. I'm still using my Hellcat power armor with Troubleshooter/Sentinel. When jumping up to the robot for auto-axe melee Ricoshet and Bullet Shield alone takes the shield down in 60 seconds. I will check if adding more DR can reduce this significantly enough to justify changing my tactic. At the moment I'm down to 2 minutes 30 seconds per EN06 solo run including quest reset and running back in. I think there is still room for improvement and less than 2 minutes per run is possible.
Sentinels is working for me on ps5 ....i stand in front of the robot and take 0 damage....why are players saying it dont work.....why dont you just try it instead of repeating what other players say
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The closer you stand to the boss the more damage you can deal to the shield via reflective and ricochet as more of the bosses attacks and hitting you.
I’ve got a OE/END/SENT hellcat with medic pump and 5/5 reflective and I can get the whole fight done in 1.50 with just the occasional bust with a heavy to trigger bullet shield. Of course once the shield comes down it’s auto axe time.
Great VID wiggle wiggle wiggle.
Put 50% more limb damage on whatever heavy you use and thank me later. Lowest time here without ANY 4* reflective gear is 1:03
I'm getting it around 1:20 without 4* anything. His shield goes down in about :50. What is your Luck at? I think higher the luck the faster ricochet procs. Mine is in the low 20's after whiskey and happy go lucky, higher with nuka dark but whiskey is quicker to farm.
I was wondering about this. Thanks for the video!
I'm enjoying your testing videos, your detailed and you show your homework which I appreciate. Your going to give angry turtle a run for his money
Reflective is actually very tempting to add for armor pieces.
I wonder if Tanky's or Aegis might be better than Reflective for min/maxing, since they offer even higher resistances. Also, I learned from AngryTurtle that you can continuously reload a harpoon gun with Resilient to gain even more ballistic resistance.
Damage Resistance (DR) and Energy Resistance (ER) are non-linear in their scaling. Meaning more resistance doesn't mean you take less damage equally. ~350DR/ER is the hard limit, and while you Can get higher, you'll be getting single digit percentages of actual damage reduction, or less.
full team of aegis PA to get everyone over 2.5k DR and ER?
What legendary effects would you take for the harpoon and what mods? I might try it with my luck build
On my hellcat I use 3 reflective and 2 Angis, but on my Union I've gone all reflective.
Tanky and aegis pretty bad, resistances have a soft cap
I switched to Medics Pump from Protocols. Is there a cool down on Medic Pump or when you get to 50% it pops a stim no matter when the last time was? Thank you! Also, Junk Shield with 100 Cork maxes out the DR with only 3 pounds of weight. You all probably know this, someone taught me this I thought I would pass it along.
100 Vault Steel is also a good option ... it's 5 pounds, but is not dropped on death.
@@crazy-tommy That is beautiful, thank you for that.
I've read that it will use a stim as long as your not currently receiving a healing effect from the previous one.
@@gordiausprime614auto stim in a pice of armor, Medic pump and Born survivor. As long as you have the stim packs, it becomes very, very hard to die. But the problem with medic pump is you have to give up a jet pack and I just love jet packs!
@johnrr6 you might get lucky and find a legacy ultracite p.a helmet or arm with a jetpack mod on it I got one for my ultracite so I can run jetpack + medic pump
just a little advice, you have to count also 2 other things, the ammount of reflected projectail and the robot aim, what I m telling is the difference is significant if the aim of the robot is 100% and ricochet kick in the 100% of the time or aim is 80% and ricochet enter also 80% of the time cause the first will reflect 200% of the total damage while the second will be about 1/3 less effective.
So the difference between the raider pa and vulcan is way more rappresentative then the second test
This video earned my sub! Yaa!
Is it possible when using the method of jumping onto the center of the platform, to kill guardian using the holy fire?
Probably. I haven't tried it.
@@wiggle_plays ok
How much does each point of Luck influence richochet? Do we know?
It’s honestly probably worth running +2L on each armor piece to proc Ricochet as much as possible to increase tankiness
How is Vampire working with this now? On the PTS you thought Vampire didn't trigger often from Deflect. Still true?
Triggers on the first hit and that's all.
Since now higher resistance matter, can you test vanguard and bolstering, might be the new way to go instead of overeaters.
Ive got similair numbers set up in perk cards, snd 4 star luck legendary card. Full set of vulcan with trouble shooters, full 2 star luck snd currently found 2 pieces of sentinals. I also have 1 4 star reflect piece but in effects my richochet chance is only 12%. Why woild mine be half your numbers? Is there anything that negatively effects it? Thanks
It's just based on Luck and Armor. Higher luck increases it. Heavy and power armor increase it by 50%. I do know that the display can be bugged and show the wrong %. You can unequip/equip Ricochet to see if that changes anything.
interested to know if/how much the extra damaged reduction from Hellcat armor affects reflect damage
The 2% ballistic damage reduction per piece from the hellcat PA doesn't add more damage since it's only the armor rating that boosts the reflected damage. Hope this helps !
I would want to see testing in plain power armor and no modifiers. Is the reflect damage calculated before the modifiers or after. Ie...sentinels, troubleshooters, or overeaters. Also, your data may be flawed because you used sentinels. Once again, I look back to AT video demonstrating the sentinel's modifier not working correctly. If sentinels fails to work, it seems every modifier every bit of DR goes to zero which would mean low reflect or maybe even no reflect.
Does the weapon you are carrying make any difference, like it does with grenades?
I'm not sure. Would be interesting to test though.
I know that vampire's will only trigger on the first hit. I think I'll test something else to see if there is a noticeable difference in damage.
I ran a test with a non legendary gat plas equipped and then again with AA. There was no noticeable difference.
Wait a minute. Wait a darn minute. Is it possible that the four star effect Tankys that adds damage resist (up to 1000!) would be better for reflect damage than the actual reflective four star?! That could very well change the new reflective meta. I think that's worth a test.
I'd like to see that tested.
Is there any difference in reflective damage with armor's legendary effect? Like Troubleshooter armor VS Overeater armor
so whats the breakpoint resistence to not die at 1st boss in bloodied?
You should have stranded next to the bot so none of the shots missed.
Could have tested raider again while adding perks, changing one variable at a time, as we do not know if armor level or type has any effect in addition to dr.
Could also test if increasing only dr vs only er had different results.
Results also affected by how often you reflect but should normalize if the bot shoots you long enough.
does anyone know if i put 4 rejuvenators and one reflective is that a good idea ??
If your holding a vampires weapon does the reflexed damage heal you?
Does Sentinel stop reflection because you take less damage?
can you do a video on the way ppl farm the bot for xp?
"Movie Star" 😂
I don't think I could ever jump back in those tin cans again ! I love running around bloodied at 15% health only seconds from death, and surprisingly, my resistance is pretty high at........
640 damage & 535 energy with my secret service armor.
In FO4 I used P.A. alot and even wore it in 76 the first year or so but since then its been great and since year 2 when I went bloodied theres been no turning back.
Have fun P.A user's see you in the wasteland.
Thank you for the video.
✌️😎 🎄
I use the same bloodied build most of the time, but to defeat the sentinel, I have yet to hear of anybody doing it without power armour. Has anyone been able to do without power armour?
@@Moshe_Dayan44 I was in there with a random and he rinsed it three times with no PA. I am bloodied 99% of the time but this Boss I use PA cause I sit on his head and let him destroy himself then autoaxe him before the first doors open.
@@Moshe_Dayan44if you take down en06 shield b4 it spawns it never even shoots at you - so bloody works great bc tbh extra strength for dmg and carry weight
Hello,
I have a question about the Vulcan P.A. mods.
Is the only way to get the Vulcan P.A. mods is doing the raids or can we buy them somewhere?
You have to do the raid the plans aren’t tradable but all plans and Armor pieces drop from the first boss so it’s definitely possible to get all pieces and mods from the EN06 Guardian
Great video
That explains why my Bulley Shield has been insta killing and heavy damaging bosses
Hey sir doesnt it works if sum1 using Aegies where it should pump up or our Resistance too right? With 3 ppl running full Aegies should give every person 750 all resistance
Can you review the special grenade cyo launcher from raid enclave squad.
Ok, I stand corrected. There's a "use" for higher armor even with the diminishing returns on reducing incoming damage. Just saying 'chasing every little incremental increase' may not be practical. Note: Junk Shield... adds a straight extra 100-ish DR/ER when holding junk... will do even more reflected?
Yes, Junk Shield should add reflected damage.
I thought that sentinel's was still broken, does it now work as it meant to?
Haven't heard anything about it being fixed personally
I have nearly 800 damage resistance and I get annihilated in 1 second on this raid. I'm very confused
You need to stack quite a bit of % reduction effects as well. Full overeaters and dodgy, or troubleshooters. A few magazines also give robot damage reduction as well.
aslso remember Level caracter matters too
Works in PvP too
which part?
@ reflective
thank you the moment I saw that they removed the no PvP text I was wondering if it worked, total game changer for PA
@@Dr.TC_ not ricochet buddy
Im going for rejuvernators. Everything else is sub par.
try that experiment on LV50 caracter i promise it will not work
min max this please !!
Shield is a limb, equip a limb damage heavy to trigger the damage on your reflect damage
Awesome video - am agreeing with others though, would having a full set of Vanguard for the resistance number being higher be more useful for reflective, or something like Trouvleahooter / OE for their flat damage reduction?
Not sure how you would test this but it would be nice to know - perhaps one run with OE / Trouble shooters and then another run without them, but both runs having the same Physical / Energy Resistances. If there's a difference in the damage you should see it there.
Oh interesting. I'm still using my Hellcat power armor with Troubleshooter/Sentinel. When jumping up to the robot for auto-axe melee Ricoshet and Bullet Shield alone takes the shield down in 60 seconds. I will check if adding more DR can reduce this significantly enough to justify changing my tactic. At the moment I'm down to 2 minutes 30 seconds per EN06 solo run including quest reset and running back in. I think there is still room for improvement and less than 2 minutes per run is possible.
Sentinels is working for me on ps5 ....i stand in front of the robot and take 0 damage....why are players saying it dont work.....why dont you just try it instead of repeating what other players say
So to do this event you have to change your entire build🤦