Without giving into a paranoid conspiracy mentality, it does appear that the reporting of these electrical vehicle fire events, are subdued. Look here on the internet and see the sparse and outdated coverage. But...even a paranoid man has enemies.
I found this only because I was looking for last Saturday's, 24 Aug 24, multi-Rivian fire apparently limited to the parking lot of their Normal, IL plant. U2oob: "Rivian plant is on fire right now" ... and you must include the quotes.
Same here,imagine all these fire incidents that never see the light of day. There might be several users on X that have a battery vehicle fire reporting database? We know the msm is ordered to suppress these stories(like other subjects)🤔
only thing they can put out is the plastic, rubber etc.. the normal car part and try to keep other parts of the battery cold, the thermal runaway will run it course and die even putting burn battery pack into water will not kill the fire, it can keep other cell from going into thermal runaway, but legacy media calls that putting EV fire out.
For values of "Run its course" being when all fuel is used up. Lithium in contact with water - explosion. When the pack ruptures, the overpressure will also unseal the cells - chain reaction.
Large battery packs just highlight that the current battery pack design is flawed ! Better designs are clearly need. consider more isolation and segmentation of bricks.
I was nearby and can confirm that it was the chargers that caught fire and spread to the vans. This was not a battery fire. Amazon needs to provide shade to protect chargers from the Texas heat.
Thats not how it works... what happens is the pack starts melting down and the charger keeps going at full amperage. The charger catches on fire AFTER the battery is in thermal runaway due to the resistance that is generating all the heat. Think of the charger like a big fuse where the massive charge cable and the charger itself are the thing that goes pop. The problem is on the other side.
That's the part that gets me, why they think this is the answer for new vehicles but it's definitely not unless you just want cars going up in flames every summer. When I put a battery outside in the sun guess what happens 😉 this is not going to change when it comes to a vehicle made out of them just cause it's in a vehicle doesn't mean it's not in the sun baking still.
Now imagine that you live where there is underground parking AND EV chargers. Time to move I'd say. Local delivery trucks are one of the few areas where EVs make sense except for the fires.
Isn't this just disastrous? What else it is? Before EVs this kind of hazard usually just happened with tankers. Not personal vehicle and vans... I loud a big middle finger to whole switching industry to electric. 🖕 Them batteries are just a Bad idea. To re-enforce that it's a Bad idea, know that with regular gasoline cars the battery is always first to go. If batteries are nothing but problems, then why then switch to completely electric? It'd ludicrous.
That is insane when people whitout proper safety equipment stands nex to the fire, this is some really poisonus gasses ans smoke, i know im working with battery testing, really dangerous
The EVs were obviously charging - which is when the risk of a battery fire is most critical. That's why I wouldn't want an EV charger inside the house/garage: if the car caught fire while charging (over night?) then the entire house burns down...
@@ultrastoat3298 Nothing like as often as EVs burn. Don't believe the hype and BS. BYD in China has now lost 10 of their showrooms due to EVs burning them down. That doesn't happen with new ICE cars.
Amazon won't give 2 shits they'll tell the employees to deliver the packages by foot instead lmao! I work for Amazon and I'm glad nobody got hurt but I have no sympathy for this company because they pay shit and they don't give a fuck about any of us.....at all. just their packages and their vans! 😂😂😂😂
@@에버유어스 it's supposed to be safer but I think thermal runaway threshold is only improved by like 100 degrees which in terms of a fire's temperature isn't much and will only take a few sec longer to reach that temp and do what they do
It’s gonna be real funny when it happens in your nearest parking garage. Conventional fire fighting doesn’t work. You don’t want to be anywhere near the smoke or the fall out that comes down from the air and touches your skin with all of the chemicals. Good times welcome to green EV!
They are wearing SCBA. Self-contained breathing apparatus. That works well for a conventional building fire but not so well for a lithium battery/EV fire. We are in a world of hurt when it comes to the electric push because battery fires are like nothing that the layman could even understand. conventional fire fighting techniques don’t work. Ask me how I know!
The firefighters should have been on the upwind side of fire. They positioned themselves directly downwind which is not only poor tactics, but dangerous. Don't have all the details, but it looks like the pumping apparatus was poorly positioned as well.
Shalom King happy Blessed Sabbatical Feast Of Abba. King I understand that when you think about electric charging station in the same space at a distance from gas pumps these are different setup for element. U understand what I am saying King. The Fire Kings shouldn't be exposed to this while smoke another reaction to elements can create additional issues for the people in whatever location or place. King we went through this in Waco Texas. Thank you
The water does not stop the lithium from burning, but quenches the rest of the structure, including cables, plastics, and packages, and may prevent overheating of cells which have not yet vented or been punctured. It does actually work in most cases. If nothing else it prevents the adjacent vehicles from going into vapor mode.
These vehicles need to be banned, idk any firefighters that enjoy putting these common fires out, if this is parked outside your home it seems like a big problem especially in the middle of the night when your asleep. Just ban them cause where I live they will never make it, closest big city is over a hour away and there are absolutely no charge stations anywhere so they aren't even a good option for people like me which is literally over 3 quarters of the state, most people live between 30 minutes to hour half away from work so they want us to drive electric with no charge stations anywhere, chance the vehicle will just ignite into flames and they cost a fortune there's just nothing appealing about any of that.
AT "0:42-1:05", THE FIREFIGHTER CAUGHT IN BETWEEN THE VANS, HAS AT LEAST FLASH BURNS. LUNG DAMAGE, FROM "SUPER HOT" AIR, NOTICE THE DIRECTION OF THE FLAMES AND IT'S FORCE, THIS IS MOST LIKELY A BATTERY FIRE, THIS IS AN EXPLOSION BUT NOT A PETROL EXPLOSION, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG🤔🤔❓❓😁😁
No lung damage. They're wearing full face masks and breathing from an air tank. Also for the short amount of time he was exposed, the suit he's wearing will protect him from the heat.
I imagine he got blinded from smoke when it lit up and probably blocked his view so he couldn’t see where he was going or what the hose was aimed at. Scary stuff. He handled that part well.
That was a very GREEN smoke. Looks like they will have to maintain "social distancing" of at least 6 feet when recharging these potential infernos.
What was the carbon footprint of these green EVs?
I haven't seen this story on any leading news media outlets.
Without giving into a paranoid conspiracy mentality, it does appear that the reporting of these electrical vehicle fire events, are subdued. Look here on the internet and see the sparse and outdated coverage. But...even a paranoid man has enemies.
I found this only because I was looking for last Saturday's, 24 Aug 24, multi-Rivian fire apparently limited to the parking lot of their Normal, IL plant.
U2oob: "Rivian plant is on fire right now" ... and you must include the quotes.
Same here,imagine all these fire incidents that never see the light of day.
There might be several users on X that have a battery vehicle fire reporting database?
We know the msm is ordered to suppress these stories(like other subjects)🤔
You won't. Even my comments are being taken down from this channel or google for pointing out facts
Too busy fawning over karmala
I am surprised this video wasn’t taken down yet.
@@c.a.mcneil7599 why would it be
Plasma cutting torch mode-no charge 🎉
The old surplus US Navy nozzles we carried on our engines were a valuable addition to the selection of nozzles on our apparatus.
Really that’s the best you can offer? Oh swing and a miss trying to be funny.
Amazing footage
Or
Amazon footage?
😂
only thing they can put out is the plastic, rubber etc.. the normal car part and try to keep other
parts of the battery cold, the thermal runaway will run it course and die
even putting burn battery pack into water will not kill the fire, it can keep other cell from going into
thermal runaway, but legacy media calls that putting EV fire out.
For values of "Run its course" being when all fuel is used up. Lithium in contact with water - explosion. When the pack ruptures, the overpressure will also unseal the cells - chain reaction.
Large battery packs just highlight that the current battery pack design is flawed !
Better designs are clearly need. consider more isolation and segmentation of bricks.
I was nearby and can confirm that it was the chargers that caught fire and spread to the vans. This was not a battery fire. Amazon needs to provide shade to protect chargers from the Texas heat.
Good to know
Awesome story bruh. 😂
Good catch!
Thats not how it works... what happens is the pack starts melting down and the charger keeps going at full amperage. The charger catches on fire AFTER the battery is in thermal runaway due to the resistance that is generating all the heat. Think of the charger like a big fuse where the massive charge cable and the charger itself are the thing that goes pop. The problem is on the other side.
That's the part that gets me, why they think this is the answer for new vehicles but it's definitely not unless you just want cars going up in flames every summer. When I put a battery outside in the sun guess what happens 😉 this is not going to change when it comes to a vehicle made out of them just cause it's in a vehicle doesn't mean it's not in the sun baking still.
This is precisely why I refuse to park next to an EV in a parking lot.
Looks like it may have been a charging issue with one truck and the other two just happened to be near by.
Like your car would be, if you parked next to an EV...
Now imagine that you live where there is underground parking AND EV chargers. Time to move I'd say. Local delivery trucks are one of the few areas where EVs make sense except for the fires.
That's crazy! God bless the fire response team.
And there goes the highly contaminated water running into the gutters. Nice!
Isn't this just disastrous? What else it is? Before EVs this kind of hazard usually just happened with tankers. Not personal vehicle and vans... I loud a big middle finger to whole switching industry to electric. 🖕 Them batteries are just a Bad idea. To re-enforce that it's a Bad idea, know that with regular gasoline cars the battery is always first to go. If batteries are nothing but problems, then why then switch to completely electric? It'd ludicrous.
I must be colour blind, I thought the plume of smoke would be "green" 😂😂😂
It looks like they already had a policy of not parking the trucks side by side, so a reprimand is in order.
That is insane when people whitout proper safety equipment stands nex to the fire, this is some really poisonus gasses ans smoke, i know im working with battery testing, really dangerous
The EVs were obviously charging - which is when the risk of a battery fire is most critical. That's why I wouldn't want an EV charger inside the house/garage: if the car caught fire while charging (over night?) then the entire house burns down...
Don’t park a gasoline car in your house either then. They burn down a lot of houses.
😂😂😂 dont use a gas stove or outlets or anything modern then. Heck, smart phone may catch fire in your pocket!
@@ultrastoat3298 Nothing like as often as EVs burn. Don't believe the hype and BS. BYD in China has now lost 10 of their showrooms due to EVs burning them down. That doesn't happen with new ICE cars.
@@bigglyguy8429 no. Gas cars burn much more often. You think Chinese EVs are bad, checkout out Chinese gas cars.
@@ultrastoat3298 we're talking per capita and the type of fire is much different. These batteries blow up houses. Look it up
Here is the green transition against climate change!! Look how safe and effective are the EV for climate change!
Amazon won't give 2 shits they'll tell the employees to deliver the packages by foot instead lmao! I work for Amazon and I'm glad nobody got hurt but I have no sympathy for this company because they pay shit and they don't give a fuck about any of us.....at all. just their packages and their vans!
😂😂😂😂
Fire melted steel, that’s hot
Wouldn't it be prudent to move the adjacent vans when the fire first started?
Good luck finding the "key" in time if it's not already in the van.
You have to charge the batteries before they move. It's kind of why they were at the charging point...
Charging ports be getting over heated
it takes, according to google search page, 600 gallons of water to put out an EV batt fire
Rivian EDV is lfp battery?
Yes
@mobius4897 I think using such a cheap battery causes a fire.
@@에버유어스 it's supposed to be safer but I think thermal runaway threshold is only improved by like 100 degrees which in terms of a fire's temperature isn't much and will only take a few sec longer to reach that temp and do what they do
Why did the fire truck park so far away?
Is it also an EV?
And don't want to start fire themselves?
I am sorry but when metal melts it is no longer a fire, when a gasoline car catches fire the metal does not melt. Wow this is insane :-)
How much did this drone/camera system cost you? Nice images 👍
@@Matt-bx2ct it’s a Mavic 3. Think the complete fly mire kit was about 2k 2 years ago
It looks funny I know it's not 😂
It’s gonna be real funny when it happens in your nearest parking garage. Conventional fire fighting doesn’t work. You don’t want to be anywhere near the smoke or the fall out that comes down from the air and touches your skin with all of the chemicals.
Good times welcome to green EV!
EVs are dangerous. I'll never own one or ride in one.
Were they wearing oxygen masks? The fumes are very toxic
Yes they have full face masks on with oxygen tanks on their backs
They are wearing SCBA. Self-contained breathing apparatus.
That works well for a conventional building fire but not so well for a lithium battery/EV fire. We are in a world of hurt when it comes to the electric push because battery fires are like nothing that the layman could even understand. conventional fire fighting techniques don’t work. Ask me how I know!
The firefighters should have been on the upwind side of fire. They positioned themselves directly downwind which is not only poor tactics, but dangerous. Don't have all the details, but it looks like the pumping apparatus was poorly positioned as well.
Battery bad fix problem or recall until you do Smoke from burning batts is very bad don't delete this again please
Looks rather "sustainable and green" to me.
Why are the firefighters fighting the fire downwind if they could have been upwind.
Safe and effective at fighting climate change 😂😂
Stand upwind! Thankfully they had full PPE gear on but that smoke is not something to be breathed in.
Just say no to forced BEV mandates🍋
Shalom King happy Blessed Sabbatical Feast Of Abba. King I understand that when you think about electric charging station in the same space at a distance from gas pumps these are different setup for element. U understand what I am saying King. The Fire Kings shouldn't be exposed to this while smoke another reaction to elements can create additional issues for the people in whatever location or place. King we went through this in Waco Texas. Thank you
Notice nobody moved the other vans away?! 😮
They had flat batteries.
Spraying water saturated with an electrolyte (e.g., salt) might be more effective.
What is the excellent soundtrack please?
@@iimerjetzt101 it’s calked mist from the RUclips audio library
Those fires are special due to metals on fire and high voltage
Anyone who would buy a electric vehicle isn’t in the right mind
The water does not stop the lithium from burning, but quenches the rest of the structure, including cables, plastics, and packages, and may prevent overheating of cells which have not yet vented or been punctured. It does actually work in most cases. If nothing else it prevents the adjacent vehicles from going into vapor mode.
Lmaooo
I saw atleast 1 van explode. I heard about 5 different explosions.
you know water and lithium = fire. right? lol
EV fires cause more environmental damage then regular gasoline cars! 🤦
Until you add up all the ICE powered car fires......
Assurdo che abbia preso fuoco un furgone e NESSUNO abbia spostato quelli vicini... .. .
I work here lol
I work at bw8 and Scott
EV is a total failure.
Tesla is the solution. You can't generalize all EV.
@@bull6950 "Tesla is the solution" 🤣😂😅🤣
Is that you Elon or one of his fanboys?
Someone was smoking cigars fell on floor
These vehicles need to be banned, idk any firefighters that enjoy putting these common fires out, if this is parked outside your home it seems like a big problem especially in the middle of the night when your asleep. Just ban them cause where I live they will never make it, closest big city is over a hour away and there are absolutely no charge stations anywhere so they aren't even a good option for people like me which is literally over 3 quarters of the state, most people live between 30 minutes to hour half away from work so they want us to drive electric with no charge stations anywhere, chance the vehicle will just ignite into flames and they cost a fortune there's just nothing appealing about any of that.
Another good reason not to buy EV's of any kind!
Lol...
EV's suck
AT "0:42-1:05", THE FIREFIGHTER CAUGHT IN BETWEEN THE VANS, HAS AT LEAST
FLASH BURNS. LUNG DAMAGE, FROM "SUPER HOT" AIR, NOTICE THE DIRECTION OF THE FLAMES AND IT'S FORCE, THIS IS MOST LIKELY A BATTERY FIRE, THIS IS AN EXPLOSION BUT NOT A PETROL EXPLOSION, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG🤔🤔❓❓😁😁
No lung damage. They're wearing full face masks and breathing from an air tank. Also for the short amount of time he was exposed, the suit he's wearing will protect him from the heat.
I imagine he got blinded from smoke when it lit up and probably blocked his view so he couldn’t see where he was going or what the hose was aimed at. Scary stuff. He handled that part well.
FEVs and FJB. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
I seen 1 van. 🚐