Just did my insulation last night. I was a little intimidated after first looking at the video. Chris did an excellent job with the instructions and he has a great sense of humor. Did the insulation last night and everything went smooth. WOW! I could not believe how much more noticeable power I gained. It also noticeably changed the sound of the bike. Thank you Chris!
Best reply we have seen in a while! Love this! Thank you for taking the time to post that and we are thrilled that you are happy with the results. You can't beat that! Thanks John.
This might be the most detailed and clearest instructional video I've seen (across any category). Really appreciate y'all taking the time to put it out! Made the entire process super fun. Oh, and the intake absolutely ROCKS! "IN THE TRASH!" 🤣
Just finished my install. Went very smooth. Install video was top notch. Rottweiler has the best parts, by far. It’s worth paying the cross border duty.
I came down to your shop today and bought the intake. Impressive place you have and the gentleman at the counter was helpful. I did install it today, the frame was a little difficult to get back together and the seat was difficult to get back on but I think it will be fine. Very noticeable difference in sound and power. Thank u for the video!!!!
That's awesome news and we are really glad you loved the results. Nothing should be changed in the seat category so we are thinking that was just a fluke but that's what these videos are for so people can see directly what is going on with the install and that many times it's not as hard as they thought.
I just installed this intake system on my 790 AR. This video instructional is really good and very thorough. My stock intake was pretty tough to break free of the throttle bodies but its no big deal and Chris mentioned that some may experience that. Thanks for the video and thanks for making such amazing products for these machines.
Thank you James! Glad you got it worked out. Basically the velocity stacks can get stuck a little to the throttle bodies and worst case they just pull out from the stock airbox and then you just pull them directly off of the throttle body. Thank you for the positive sentiments on our products and comments like those are what keep us innovating!
great video. followed it with no issues. very easy to install. took me couple hours because it was my first time and i didn’t want to make a mistake. the longest part was getting the velocistacks rubber boots installed. one note i may add is install the temp sensor after installing the screw holding the two parts of the air box together.
Thanks Chris for the excellent tutorial! It helped a LOT in getting my intake installed without any fuss. I did not disconnect the rear wiring harness, not really needed but doing so takes it out of the way of any potential damage. I did have dust dust leaking into the stock inner air box but as I bought the bike used not sure how much. It was pretty messy. :( Now I need to install the Arrow Decat and hope the weather will cooperate so I can go out and ride!!!!
Ok so what you’re going to do is grab here and grab here, very important pay attention and throw it in the trash.. blaaaahaaa that was awesome. Haha great job Chris and TEAM. Well done, great video. Dee
Just bought the Pro intake with PCV Street Advanced Ignition Map with Cat Delete map preloaded. Really excited and appreciate the straightforward videos. Great videos will post an update after they arrive and are installed (and the snow melts here in Utah). Thank you Rottweiler! P.S. The only instruction I won't be doing is putting the snorkels and airbox in the garbage - KTM made them recyclable so will be recycling them!
Well get on it! You'll love them. Hint: Start buying parts now, then you'll HAVE to get the bike. That's what I do and now I have 22 of them. It's a problem I'm seeing council for...
Thanks to the instructions and this video, even this accountant-by-day managed to get through the install. Toughest part imo was getting the velocity stacks in the airbox. I spent a lot of time on that part for some reason. Time to hit the gym! Thanks RP!
You got it and that's the point of these videos! Glad it helped. The V stacks aren't that hard, and I would add to those reading this to lubricate them with Windex or WD40. Something that will dry up shortly. They will pop right on with some of that on the inside. Makes things so much easier. It's the band clamps falling off that are a bit frustrating but over time you'll get the technique. Problem is most people only do this once LOL. I've done it 50 times by now so I know the tricks!
Hold it like this, IN THE TRASH! Thought I had it made in the shade, new 890 R, Rottweiler Performance air box, slick T-shirt and other cool stuff then…. ORANGE BENCH VICE. Damn you Chris. Oh look, they have a sale.
It's an Orange Bench Vise and they are the best in the world. Just buy that one and plan on keeping it on the coffee table for a while. www.orangevise.com/orange-bench-vise/
Great video. There are some issues with mounting this on a Norden 901. The temp sensor extends out and interferes with the sun frame. Specifically the metal price that holds the rubber bushings for the body panel. It has to be taken off and cut or ground to make room for the sensor.
Yes you are exactly correct. We list that in the written instructions linked below, but this vides was made before the 901 Norden came out so we couldn't include that part. It's a simple mod to perform though.
@@RottweilerPerformance No need to cut it down complety, I just gouged a U shaped groove into it and the rear side bolt can still be used to attach the bracket... It leaves about 1/8" of meat which seems enough to me to hold the plastic body part in place
Here it is! This is a vice company we use for all of our machining, and they also make this gorgeous benchtop vise that is unreal. It's not inexpensive, but we love them and have two in our shop and have custom machined jaws for different things like forks and fork lugs. www.orangevise.com/orange-bench-vise/
@@RottweilerPerformance it’s on sale for 899 right now.....that’s a lot but not terrible really. I mean big clunky Wilton costs that much. My shop can’t quite afford a vice like that yet. I’ll get there though! Awesome product by the way! I love my intake on my 1290 and I’m looking to upgrade my 690 next. This intake for the 890 is almost too pretty to get dirty!
This answer is really subjective and differs by country or area. Believe it or not, in our decade of making intakes we have not heard of invalidation of warranties very often if at all, and depending on what country you live in there are laws preventing manufacturers from denying warranties based on modifications that clearly don't have much to do with the reason for the warranty in the first place. This one will have to be up to you but the ironic part is that if you don't want to risk a warranty denial, you need to stick to the stock airbox, which will almost guarantee you having to try and warranty a wasted motor because the stock airboxes are notorious for leaking dust. Most people feel it's safer to safeguard the engine first, and then if there is a serious enough issue that isn't related but you just want to hedge your bets against any complications, just put it back to stock before you bring it back to the dealer for inspection.
The cage has a post and screw design like many other foam air filters. I would have thought it would be fine. Have you heard of this issue @rotweillerperformance
If you overfill the crankcase, then yes it will. It's sort of harmless and just coats the inside of the airbox if it pukes, but running a breather on a catch tank is most ideal if you are going to do that, otherwise you have an external breather that is dripping oil. If you don't want to run a catch tank, then just get some 1/2" ID (12mm) hose and run it high so any mist can't really get up that high where the filter is.
This is very helpful guys, but no PowerCommander install video for the 790/890 ADV yet? I purchased the airbox, sas delete dongle, and PC from you guys. It would be great to have an install video for the PC, or am I missing it somewhere on your channel?
Truthfully there can be a video for everything, but we have to pick and choose as they are quite laborious to make so we reserve them for the major products that we make. The PCV is not hard enough to install to warrant a video, but we have made about 90% of our own instructional for installing the PCV on the Adventure. Just shoot us an email at info@rottweilerperformance.com and ask for a link to it and we are happy to send it over. It's not quite finished, but is most of the way there and designed to help our Adventure customers.
That's actually next! We were hard focused on the Adventure simply because the sales are probably 4:1 to the Duke, but that bike is currently being adapted over and we should have a kit soon. (written 12/27/20)
@@RottweilerPerformance excellent news. The Duke really needs some airflow and your kit will give some extra space needed for adding fuel controllers etc, as additional space on a Duke is non existent. Looking forward to seeing what you do 👍
Are you's going to fabricate a under the rear seat /gard excilory fuel tank ? For the new Husqzvarna Norten 901 if possible. The extra fuel capacity would be real good here in Australia. 🇦🇺
We will have to redesign the underseat fuel tank to work with the Norden 901 because of the split seat design. We plan on releasing the fuel tank for the R and Rally KTM models and if they prove to be as popular as we think they will be, we will make one specifically for the Norden 901 for sure.
@@Elskins Theirs will go out at the same time and are prioritized by date or order but we are building all of them and planning on some big shipping days next week!
Absolutely. Over the last few years we have sold probably 30,000 intake systems. We just don't ever really hear about any issues from rain or water crossings. At one point the owner actually took a fully open garden hose to the top of a down draft filter system on a 990 Adventure and it ran for about a solid minute, and then started to gurgle just a little bit, at which time we took the filter off by hand, wiped out the water, fired up the bike and had no issues. The system on this bike is even better because the filter is lower than the intakes, so water would have to travel up hill to get into the combustion chamber which is almost impossible. Additionally, a bit of water on the filter itself is just fine. We know thousands of our customers have traveled through the most amazing weather patterns, and just don't have any problems. Another thing to add is that in deep water crossings, if a bike is somehow submerged, getting water out of the intake tract is much easier than with stock, that can trap a lot of water inside which can be very difficult to get out. Almost all of our systems are removable by hand, so checking and wiping out water is extremely easy. Rain, you'll never have to touch it.
3 turns wasn't enough to be able to remove mine , i ended up 6 or7 but you can go 8 full turns and the thread is still all the way in the nut , i also put the rubber velocity stacks in hot water to make them a little easier to get in as its colder in the uk .
Hello man, quick question, once I change the intake system, in the first on of the motorcycle, I need to put on ralenti some time or something similar for a few minutes?
Camilo, there is something lost in translation here and we are having a hard time understanding the question. Can you try again so we can better understand and help you?
Breathing on your bike will void the warranty with KTM. That will eventually be up to your relationship with your dealer whether they will help you out or not, but the truth of the matter is that no manufacturer can legally void a warranty if that can't positively link the issue to the modification. Look up 'Magnussen vs Moss' law. I don't quite understand your second question but what I think you are asking is will your stock alarm still fit and the answer to that is yes.
Check out this page here and click on the small image below the main picture. There is a chart that will show everything. As measured on our dyno on a 790 at 6300 RPM we saw 9+ to the tire. This would be about 12 or 13 at the crank. www.rottweilerperformance.com/rally-edition-full-intake-system-790-890-adventure-all-matte-carbon/
@@ministrant4220 Remapping is done through a Power Commander V. We have many choices of free maps when you get them through Rottweiler Performance and we will also set them up for free as well before we ship. See the intake page linked here and read the description for mapping the 790 or 890 Adventure. This should help you decide what you want and get going fast. The PCV is plug and play and elicits really impressive performance gains on those models. www.rottweilerperformance.com/rally-edition-full-intake-system-790-890-adventure-all-gloss-finish/ Essentially, it say what is copied below: MAPPING INFORMATION For those of you who would like to know more about mapping the 790 and 890 engines, we have provided the information below to help you understand the options for that bike in terms of controlling the fuel. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to call us. We are happy to help! Do I need to remap with a Power Commander for this intake system? Absolutely not. The gains mentioned above were completely stock and the factory ECU easily compensates the fuel using the stock narrow band O2's to keep your air fuel ratio at a safe 14.7. Hours of dyno testing, real world data logging and static load runs showed that the stock ECU safely, easily and quickly adjusts to any configuration with protective measures like ion knock sensors and other methods. You are completely safe to install this air box and enjoy the ride. So I'm safe, but are there more gains with additional mapping using a Power Commander V? Absolutely, and we have been burning the midnight oil to bring you even more mapping to support your desired combinations than ever before. Simply choose the map that is closest to your final configuration and we will load the map(s) for you for free! For more information on the benefits of mapping please see our mapping options section below. What's the difference between STREET and RACE maps? A STREET map will allow the user to keep their stock narrow band O2 sensors plugged in and does not interfere with emissions based mapping and only has fueling changes in the open loop section of your fuel map where the stock ECU will not try and override the changes. This serves riders wanting to stay in compliance with emissions standards and retain their cruise control while still benefitting from ignition advances throughout and fueling corrections in open loop. A RACE map is designed for closed course racing purposes so that the user can have full control over the entire map range. The use of maps designated as 'RACE MAPS' require the stock narrow band O2s to simply be unplugged so that the stock ECU will not be able to read them and override the map and correct the trims back to an emissions based 14.7 air fuel ratio in the closed loop section (see attached chart in the pics above). Unplugging the stock narrow band O2s will only cause cruise control on the 790 Adventure will stop working and an engine light on the dash will appear. Engine lights typically only warn of blinkers not working or emissions systems unplugged. You will still get important warnings on the dashboard in bold letters. This can be easily reversed if the stock narrow band O2s are plugged back in. What is the difference between MODERATE and ADVANCED maps? Moderate ignition advances are just that. They are designed to be a bit of a bump in power without pushing the limits. What we have found is that KTM typically ships some street homologated bikes with very mild ignition curves. We assume that this is because they cannot predict what kind of fuels will be available to the customer in their given part of the world and the engines can easily take some more ignition advance and take advantage of some extra power. Advanced ignition curves are created using standard U.S. 91 octane rated pump gas fuel, the close equivalent to 95 RON. The ignition advances in these maps have been taken as far as safely possible using sophisticated knock sensing equipment. These maps will usually yield even more hidden horsepower but it is recommended that the user only run a minimum 91 octane fuel (95 RON) or equivalent. These maps DO NOT require race gas. It is recommended to use these maps in conjunction with a Dynojet Map Switch and another map with the same configuration but milder ignition advances so that the user can dial back the advance with the flick of a switch in such a case that lower octane fuel is necessary or ends up in the fuel tank. It should also be known that the 790/890 Adventure models do have knock sensors in the coils, which in the case of accidental lower octane fuel the bike will handily adjust and protect itself.
It's actually about 15hp to the tire which is around 18-20 at the crank which is still really good. 30hp would make us miracle workers on this bike. We are not sure which chart you are looking at though.
Love your stuff just bought a rally however I’ve noticed a few guys complaining about the noise on the 1290 intake take kit is this going to be similar?
Opening up the intake does make a bit more noise, but on this bike it's under the seat and around the same area as the muffler so not so much in your face like some other models. The price of performance is not always sound as in the case of mapping and ignition advance with a Power Commander V but gains from an exhaust or intake will obviously add some decibels to the exchange. 99.9% of our customers love the intake sound, and the other .1% want a sewing machine so in that case we would encourage them to keep it stock.
The 1290s definitely a different location,and I’ve only noticed on my friends 1290 adventure when you’re wide-open throttle. It’s hard to deny the performance benefits that’s for sure!!! Did you do a Dyno run with just the intake no mapping?
@@FATBIKEMIKE Yes we did. The 790 with the intake system just dropped in is a solid +9HP at around 6300 RPM as measured on our dyno, same bike, same time, same dyno. The 890 was around +6 HP around that same RPM just dropped in. Solid gains throughout as well.
Correct. We could do both, so we did. The carbon fiber is Moto GP Formula 1 quality so there is a super trick factor if you like that, (I do) but otherwise they do the same thing. Weight difference is minimal.
Not at all. Fuel injection is basically set to deliver a 14.7:1 air fuel ratio regardless of what is bolted on to the bike. You can install an exhaust, an intake, a decat and it will just compensate at 14.7 air fuel ratio all the time and does a great job at it and you will still make good power without mapping. That being said, there is a good amount of additional power available from mapping, but that is what will reduce your fuel mileage really. Not the intake. We have an auxiliary fuel tank coming that holds 1.8 gallons (6.8 ltrs) that fits right up to this intake so you can have your cake and eat it too.
We are looking towards the end of 2021. Currently (10/15/2021) we are in the stages of making the billet molds for both plastic and carbon fiber and then we are making parts! Closing in!
As much as needed depending on your riding conditions. It’s really impossible to answer that question because of that. These systems are exactly the same as a dirt bike and the user just needs to keep an informed eye on things. If you still aren’t sure, more often never hurts and these filters are so inexpensive and packable there really isn’t much reason not to change them often and your motor will thank you for it. Same goes for stock or anything else. No real difference.
If you are talking about the outside, it is completely covered and protected by the left shroud once it is installed. Good eye, but it is perfectly protected inside the frame tubes and shroud. If you look at the final scene you will see what we are talking about here.
I have the full Rottweiler with full Akra exhaust --but the "old" power plate style. Am I missing out vs the new system here? How much? Any kind of upgrade program? Would the PCV map need to be changed? Thanks.
The Power Plate does a fantastic job at filtering dust, but is not in the same power increase category as the full system intake. That is shaped and built to do the same as the Power Plate in terms of dust protection, but carries a large horsepower gain as well. Roughly 10 horsepower to the tire at 6300 RPM as measured on our 790 test bike. Those are the major differences between the two in terms of what they accomplish power wise. The full carbon intake just adds some Formula 1 or Moto GP to the equation. If you bought the PCV from us the maps are always free so while you don't NEED to update the map in terms of safety, it's always a good thing and free. You just need to reach out to our tech line with your order number and we will send a free code. info@rottweilerperformance.com is where the inquiry (or enquiry if you are from the EU) should go.
@@8andsk835 It just comes down to budget and what you are trying to accomplish. The Power Plate does an amazing job at dust protection, but doesn't carry the same power increases as the full intake which makes about 9hp at the tire without any mapping. Throw in looks, ease of filter changes on the road, simplification of the bike and the ability to run our 1.6 gallon fuel tank that's coming out in the next few months and the full intake is a win, win, win, win.
@@8andsk835 Check this video below at 1:46. We show it briefly. We are testing the first prototype this weekend (9/15/21) and just filled it up. It was actually 1.8 gallons! ruclips.net/video/Eli2d9ht2oU/видео.html
Is there any way of securing the nuts on the inside of the intake. You say don't use locktight but I'm worried the nuts will come loose and get sucked into the barrels, and that would be expensive!
Philip, the nuts are nylock nuts and the bolts are slightly long so there is no way they will every come loose. You are welcome to Loctite those if you wish, but it is not necessary. We sometimes tell people, "Think about this: there are also about 50 lubricated bolts spinning inside your motor with no more than torque on them, and no one is worried about those", just to put things into perspective.
If you are running a Power Commander V with a STREET map, you should not have a check engine light. If you are running a RACE map which requires that you unplug your stock narrow band O2's, then you will have an engine light. This is all spelled out on the pages on our site where the intake and Power Commander are for anyone reading this. If you are running a STREET map and still have a check engine light, just call us and we can walk you through steps to find out what that may be. It's usually something small just not plugged in and will go away after it is reconnected. Either that or you have an engine light for another unrelated reason.
Few things Cousin Liam. First, the stock intakes leak dust very badly. See this video here. ruclips.net/video/TerSUQMBupQ/видео.html Second, this intake is a drop in 9+ horsepower to the tire. See this graph here. cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-xk32d/products/1418/images/10151/790_Intake_Dyno_Chart_2__64744.1605640556.1280.1280.png?c=2 Third, just look at it...
@@RottweilerPerformance I am more into mods that will give Torque. This bike has enough power IMHO, but thanks anyway, now I know how to disassemble part of my bike !
@@ItsOnlyFil If you like torque, then this also delivers in a big way. Check this chart here. The dotted lines are showing the measured torque. This is with a decat, Rottweiler Intake System and mapping with advanced ignition. www.dropbox.com/s/bdnkmjq9bdlmat5/RP%20INTAKE-DECAT%20EXHAUST.png?dl=0
Yea but the hardcore rider crossing a river gets her over the seat and boom it draws in water straight down the engine breather pipe trick airboxes don't cut it for rediculas money ,up the game design some snorkel technology already... Sheez..
That was one the best instruction videos I’ve ever seen on anything
Thank you for that!
Just did my insulation last night.
I was a little intimidated after first looking at the video.
Chris did an excellent job with the instructions and he has a great sense of humor.
Did the insulation last night and everything went smooth.
WOW! I could not believe how much more noticeable power I gained.
It also noticeably changed the sound of the bike.
Thank you Chris!
Best reply we have seen in a while! Love this! Thank you for taking the time to post that and we are thrilled that you are happy with the results. You can't beat that! Thanks John.
This might be the most detailed and clearest instructional video I've seen (across any category). Really appreciate y'all taking the time to put it out! Made the entire process super fun. Oh, and the intake absolutely ROCKS!
"IN THE TRASH!" 🤣
Wow, thank you so much! So glad that these are useful and easy to follow. We appreciate the support and your business!
Just finished my install. Went very smooth. Install video was top notch. Rottweiler has the best parts, by far. It’s worth paying the cross border duty.
Thank you Keith!
I came down to your shop today and bought the intake. Impressive place you have and the gentleman at the counter was helpful.
I did install it today, the frame was a little difficult to get back together and the seat was difficult to get back on but I think it will be fine. Very noticeable difference in sound and power. Thank u for the video!!!!
That's awesome news and we are really glad you loved the results. Nothing should be changed in the seat category so we are thinking that was just a fluke but that's what these videos are for so people can see directly what is going on with the install and that many times it's not as hard as they thought.
I'm just here to say Rottweiler rocks!
Ha! Love that. Thank you!! These are the kinds of comments that make it all worth it!
Nice work, Chris. Looking forward to this upgrade someday. -Tim
We will be here when you are ready! Any questions, just give us a call!
I just installed this intake system on my 790 AR. This video instructional is really good and very thorough. My stock intake was pretty tough to break free of the throttle bodies but its no big deal and Chris mentioned that some may experience that. Thanks for the video and thanks for making such amazing products for these machines.
Thank you James! Glad you got it worked out. Basically the velocity stacks can get stuck a little to the throttle bodies and worst case they just pull out from the stock airbox and then you just pull them directly off of the throttle body.
Thank you for the positive sentiments on our products and comments like those are what keep us innovating!
great video. followed it with no issues. very easy to install. took me couple hours because it was my first time and i didn’t want to make a mistake. the longest part was getting the velocistacks rubber boots installed. one note i may add is install the temp sensor after installing the screw holding the two parts of the air box together.
We would agree. A trick with the velocity stacks is to use Maxima MPPL or a similar lubricant (WD40). They pop on much easier.
Thanks for the tips, Gerard Butler
LOL, you're not the first. I just hope from 300 and not from one of the clubbier movies LOL. That being said, probably the latter...
Thanks Chris for the excellent tutorial! It helped a LOT in getting my intake installed without any fuss. I did not disconnect the rear wiring harness, not really needed but doing so takes it out of the way of any potential damage. I did have dust dust leaking into the stock inner air box but as I bought the bike used not sure how much. It was pretty messy. :( Now I need to install the Arrow Decat and hope the weather will cooperate so I can go out and ride!!!!
Excellent moto install vid. Very well done. Ready to push some air through the new setup!
Ok so what you’re going to do is grab here and grab here, very important pay attention and throw it in the trash.. blaaaahaaa that was awesome. Haha great job Chris and TEAM. Well done, great video.
Dee
We like to put in a little humor here and there. Just to be a bit more human. Glad you got a chuckle out of it!
Just bought the Pro intake with PCV Street Advanced Ignition Map with Cat Delete map preloaded. Really excited and appreciate the straightforward videos. Great videos will post an update after they arrive and are installed (and the snow melts here in Utah). Thank you Rottweiler!
P.S. The only instruction I won't be doing is putting the snorkels and airbox in the garbage - KTM made them recyclable so will be recycling them!
Love this and thank you back!!
Thanks Chris great tutorial. The stock air box was leaking for sure! I love my 790.
So glad it was helpful! Thanks for your support and your business.
👍🏻 I haven’t bought my 890 yet but I already know how to do the intake job. Thanks!
Well get on it! You'll love them. Hint: Start buying parts now, then you'll HAVE to get the bike. That's what I do and now I have 22 of them. It's a problem I'm seeing council for...
Thanks to the instructions and this video, even this accountant-by-day managed to get through the install. Toughest part imo was getting the velocity stacks in the airbox. I spent a lot of time on that part for some reason. Time to hit the gym! Thanks RP!
You got it and that's the point of these videos! Glad it helped. The V stacks aren't that hard, and I would add to those reading this to lubricate them with Windex or WD40. Something that will dry up shortly. They will pop right on with some of that on the inside. Makes things so much easier. It's the band clamps falling off that are a bit frustrating but over time you'll get the technique. Problem is most people only do this once LOL. I've done it 50 times by now so I know the tricks!
Look like we have A New Christmas Wish for our two KTM 790R's
Ho Ho Ho!
Hold it like this, IN THE TRASH! Thought I had it made in the shade, new 890 R, Rottweiler Performance air box, slick T-shirt and other cool stuff then…. ORANGE BENCH VICE. Damn you Chris. Oh look, they have a sale.
LOL, love this! We also love our Orange Vises! It's a fitting piece in our shop and they are made as beautifully as they look.
Excellent video and, as always, another outstanding product!
Thank you Glenn!
Awesome video guys.
Thanks Eddie!
1090R snorkel kit will be the Hit!
Great product, great vid. took me 1.5 hrs, the video was spot on!
Awesome Jim! Glad it helped.
Excellent well made and explained video. Thanks
Thanks Dave! Glad it helped.
That table vice grip is from the future..😁
It's an Orange Bench Vise and they are the best in the world. Just buy that one and plan on keeping it on the coffee table for a while. www.orangevise.com/orange-bench-vise/
Great video.
There are some issues with mounting this on a Norden 901. The temp sensor extends out and interferes with the sun frame. Specifically the metal price that holds the rubber bushings for the body panel. It has to be taken off and cut or ground to make room for the sensor.
Yes you are exactly correct. We list that in the written instructions linked below, but this vides was made before the 901 Norden came out so we couldn't include that part. It's a simple mod to perform though.
@@RottweilerPerformance No need to cut it down complety, I just gouged a U shaped groove into it and the rear side bolt can still be used to attach the bracket... It leaves about 1/8" of meat which seems enough to me to hold the plastic body part in place
11:19 that’s the sexiest vice ive ever seen in my life.
Here it is! This is a vice company we use for all of our machining, and they also make this gorgeous benchtop vise that is unreal. It's not inexpensive, but we love them and have two in our shop and have custom machined jaws for different things like forks and fork lugs. www.orangevise.com/orange-bench-vise/
@@RottweilerPerformance it’s on sale for 899 right now.....that’s a lot but not terrible really. I mean big clunky Wilton costs that much. My shop can’t quite afford a vice like that yet. I’ll get there though! Awesome product by the way! I love my intake on my 1290 and I’m looking to upgrade my 690 next. This intake for the 890 is almost too pretty to get dirty!
@@TourmotoDesign You would not be disappointed. They are incredible and not one tiny bit of play in them. They are truly a work of art.
I am a KTM fan boy, so a beautiful orange vise like that is a must...😂😂😂
Just got mine on but I'm out of filter oil...looking forward to MOOOAAARRR POWAHHH.!!!
Boom, done sir. Let us know how it goes and how much lighter that front end gets. :)
Great product development as usual :). Any idea if this invalidates your KTM warrantee?
This answer is really subjective and differs by country or area. Believe it or not, in our decade of making intakes we have not heard of invalidation of warranties very often if at all, and depending on what country you live in there are laws preventing manufacturers from denying warranties based on modifications that clearly don't have much to do with the reason for the warranty in the first place. This one will have to be up to you but the ironic part is that if you don't want to risk a warranty denial, you need to stick to the stock airbox, which will almost guarantee you having to try and warranty a wasted motor because the stock airboxes are notorious for leaking dust. Most people feel it's safer to safeguard the engine first, and then if there is a serious enough issue that isn't related but you just want to hedge your bets against any complications, just put it back to stock before you bring it back to the dealer for inspection.
Excellent video
Thank you very much! We appreciate the support.
Is this compatible with the 2024 790 Adventure? Awesome install video making me rethink my power plate purchase 😂🤣
The cage has a post and screw design like many other foam air filters. I would have thought it would be fine. Have you heard of this issue @rotweillerperformance
doesn't the crankcase breather makes a big mess inside the air-box? The oem one has a lithe case where all the gunk gets trapped..great video.
If you overfill the crankcase, then yes it will. It's sort of harmless and just coats the inside of the airbox if it pukes, but running a breather on a catch tank is most ideal if you are going to do that, otherwise you have an external breather that is dripping oil. If you don't want to run a catch tank, then just get some 1/2" ID (12mm) hose and run it high so any mist can't really get up that high where the filter is.
This is very helpful guys, but no PowerCommander install video for the 790/890 ADV yet? I purchased the airbox, sas delete dongle, and PC from you guys. It would be great to have an install video for the PC, or am I missing it somewhere on your channel?
Truthfully there can be a video for everything, but we have to pick and choose as they are quite laborious to make so we reserve them for the major products that we make. The PCV is not hard enough to install to warrant a video, but we have made about 90% of our own instructional for installing the PCV on the Adventure. Just shoot us an email at info@rottweilerperformance.com and ask for a link to it and we are happy to send it over. It's not quite finished, but is most of the way there and designed to help our Adventure customers.
Thank you!
LET'S HEAR IT...!!!
Will you eventually adapt this kit to suit the 790/890 Duke one day? Looks a lovely bit of kit 👌
That's actually next! We were hard focused on the Adventure simply because the sales are probably 4:1 to the Duke, but that bike is currently being adapted over and we should have a kit soon. (written 12/27/20)
@@RottweilerPerformance excellent news. The Duke really needs some airflow and your kit will give some extra space needed for adding fuel controllers etc, as additional space on a Duke is non existent. Looking forward to seeing what you do 👍
Are you's going to fabricate a under the rear seat /gard excilory fuel tank ?
For the new Husqzvarna Norten 901 if possible.
The extra fuel capacity would be real good here in Australia. 🇦🇺
We will have to redesign the underseat fuel tank to work with the Norden 901 because of the split seat design. We plan on releasing the fuel tank for the R and Rally KTM models and if they prove to be as popular as we think they will be, we will make one specifically for the Norden 901 for sure.
Great tutorial 👍 Can’t wait for my order to be dispatched. EU deliveries are taking longer as far as I’m informed!?
From us or from couriers? From us all orders should be going out right before Christmas 2020 (next week).
@@RottweilerPerformance from rally-motor Netherlands.
@@Elskins Theirs will go out at the same time and are prioritized by date or order but we are building all of them and planning on some big shipping days next week!
I have a question. I live in a rainy country what if the rain water gets into the intake? Is it ok that the filter gets wet but not totally soaked?
Absolutely. Over the last few years we have sold probably 30,000 intake systems. We just don't ever really hear about any issues from rain or water crossings. At one point the owner actually took a fully open garden hose to the top of a down draft filter system on a 990 Adventure and it ran for about a solid minute, and then started to gurgle just a little bit, at which time we took the filter off by hand, wiped out the water, fired up the bike and had no issues. The system on this bike is even better because the filter is lower than the intakes, so water would have to travel up hill to get into the combustion chamber which is almost impossible. Additionally, a bit of water on the filter itself is just fine. We know thousands of our customers have traveled through the most amazing weather patterns, and just don't have any problems.
Another thing to add is that in deep water crossings, if a bike is somehow submerged, getting water out of the intake tract is much easier than with stock, that can trap a lot of water inside which can be very difficult to get out. Almost all of our systems are removable by hand, so checking and wiping out water is extremely easy. Rain, you'll never have to touch it.
3 turns wasn't enough to be able to remove mine , i ended up 6 or7 but you can go 8 full turns and the thread is still all the way in the nut , i also put the rubber velocity stacks in hot water to make them a little easier to get in as its colder in the uk .
Hello man, quick question, once I change the intake system, in the first on of the motorcycle, I need to put on ralenti some time or something similar for a few minutes?
Camilo, there is something lost in translation here and we are having a hard time understanding the question. Can you try again so we can better understand and help you?
Does installing this will void my factory guarantee?? Also I have a ktm alarm on my bike will this install like on the oem air intake setup?
Breathing on your bike will void the warranty with KTM. That will eventually be up to your relationship with your dealer whether they will help you out or not, but the truth of the matter is that no manufacturer can legally void a warranty if that can't positively link the issue to the modification. Look up 'Magnussen vs Moss' law.
I don't quite understand your second question but what I think you are asking is will your stock alarm still fit and the answer to that is yes.
A nice part and a good video. What is the net impact on performance?
Check out this page here and click on the small image below the main picture. There is a chart that will show everything. As measured on our dyno on a 790 at 6300 RPM we saw 9+ to the tire. This would be about 12 or 13 at the crank. www.rottweilerperformance.com/rally-edition-full-intake-system-790-890-adventure-all-matte-carbon/
@@RottweilerPerformance Thanks for the answer. How is remappiong done?
@@ministrant4220 Remapping is done through a Power Commander V. We have many choices of free maps when you get them through Rottweiler Performance and we will also set them up for free as well before we ship. See the intake page linked here and read the description for mapping the 790 or 890 Adventure. This should help you decide what you want and get going fast. The PCV is plug and play and elicits really impressive performance gains on those models. www.rottweilerperformance.com/rally-edition-full-intake-system-790-890-adventure-all-gloss-finish/
Essentially, it say what is copied below:
MAPPING INFORMATION For those of you who would like to know more about mapping the 790 and 890 engines, we have provided the information below to help you understand the options for that bike in terms of controlling the fuel. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to call us. We are happy to help!
Do I need to remap with a Power Commander for this intake system? Absolutely not. The gains mentioned above were completely stock and the factory ECU easily compensates the fuel using the stock narrow band O2's to keep your air fuel ratio at a safe 14.7. Hours of dyno testing, real world data logging and static load runs showed that the stock ECU safely, easily and quickly adjusts to any configuration with protective measures like ion knock sensors and other methods. You are completely safe to install this air box and enjoy the ride.
So I'm safe, but are there more gains with additional mapping using a Power Commander V? Absolutely, and we have been burning the midnight oil to bring you even more mapping to support your desired combinations than ever before. Simply choose the map that is closest to your final configuration and we will load the map(s) for you for free! For more information on the benefits of mapping please see our mapping options section below.
What's the difference between STREET and RACE maps?
A STREET map will allow the user to keep their stock narrow band O2 sensors plugged in and does not interfere with emissions based mapping and only has fueling changes in the open loop section of your fuel map where the stock ECU will not try and override the changes. This serves riders wanting to stay in compliance with emissions standards and retain their cruise control while still benefitting from ignition advances throughout and fueling corrections in open loop.
A RACE map is designed for closed course racing purposes so that the user can have full control over the entire map range. The use of maps designated as 'RACE MAPS' require the stock narrow band O2s to simply be unplugged so that the stock ECU will not be able to read them and override the map and correct the trims back to an emissions based 14.7 air fuel ratio in the closed loop section (see attached chart in the pics above). Unplugging the stock narrow band O2s will only cause cruise control on the 790 Adventure will stop working and an engine light on the dash will appear. Engine lights typically only warn of blinkers not working or emissions systems unplugged. You will still get important warnings on the dashboard in bold letters. This can be easily reversed if the stock narrow band O2s are plugged back in.
What is the difference between MODERATE and ADVANCED maps?
Moderate ignition advances are just that. They are designed to be a bit of a bump in power without pushing the limits. What we have found is that KTM typically ships some street homologated bikes with very mild ignition curves. We assume that this is because they cannot predict what kind of fuels will be available to the customer in their given part of the world and the engines can easily take some more ignition advance and take advantage of some extra power.
Advanced ignition curves are created using standard U.S. 91 octane rated pump gas fuel, the close equivalent to 95 RON. The ignition advances in these maps have been taken as far as safely possible using sophisticated knock sensing equipment. These maps will usually yield even more hidden horsepower but it is recommended that the user only run a minimum 91 octane fuel (95 RON) or equivalent. These maps DO NOT require race gas. It is recommended to use these maps in conjunction with a Dynojet Map Switch and another map with the same configuration but milder ignition advances so that the user can dial back the advance with the flick of a switch in such a case that lower octane fuel is necessary or ends up in the fuel tank. It should also be known that the 790/890 Adventure models do have knock sensors in the coils, which in the case of accidental lower octane fuel the bike will handily adjust and protect itself.
If im reading the chart correct air box, remove cat and tune, almost 30 hp ?
It's actually about 15hp to the tire which is around 18-20 at the crank which is still really good. 30hp would make us miracle workers on this bike. We are not sure which chart you are looking at though.
@@RottweilerPerformance Still awesome, really nice products
Awesome. Almost makes me want to replace the 1190R..... Almost. Is there a SAS/ Canister on the 890?
There is, they all have them but easy to remedy if need be.
Love your stuff just bought a rally however I’ve noticed a few guys complaining about the noise on the 1290 intake take kit is this going to be similar?
Opening up the intake does make a bit more noise, but on this bike it's under the seat and around the same area as the muffler so not so much in your face like some other models. The price of performance is not always sound as in the case of mapping and ignition advance with a Power Commander V but gains from an exhaust or intake will obviously add some decibels to the exchange. 99.9% of our customers love the intake sound, and the other .1% want a sewing machine so in that case we would encourage them to keep it stock.
The 1290s definitely a different location,and I’ve only noticed on my friends 1290 adventure when you’re wide-open throttle. It’s hard to deny the performance benefits that’s for sure!!! Did you do a Dyno run with just the intake no mapping?
@@FATBIKEMIKE Yes we did. The 790 with the intake system just dropped in is a solid +9HP at around 6300 RPM as measured on our dyno, same bike, same time, same dyno. The 890 was around +6 HP around that same RPM just dropped in. Solid gains throughout as well.
The difference between the Rally intake vs the PRO is just the material its made of = carbon fibre right ?
Correct. We could do both, so we did. The carbon fiber is Moto GP Formula 1 quality so there is a super trick factor if you like that, (I do) but otherwise they do the same thing. Weight difference is minimal.
@@RottweilerPerformance i do but not enough to pay the diff LoL my intake was ordered about 3 - 4 weeks ago , the pro , not so patiently waiting
@@RottweilerPerformance thanks for answering though , if there had been any significant diff in performance id have changed order
Does this influence the gas intake (mileage)?
Not at all. Fuel injection is basically set to deliver a 14.7:1 air fuel ratio regardless of what is bolted on to the bike. You can install an exhaust, an intake, a decat and it will just compensate at 14.7 air fuel ratio all the time and does a great job at it and you will still make good power without mapping. That being said, there is a good amount of additional power available from mapping, but that is what will reduce your fuel mileage really. Not the intake. We have an auxiliary fuel tank coming that holds 1.8 gallons (6.8 ltrs) that fits right up to this intake so you can have your cake and eat it too.
@@RottweilerPerformance I thought I saw what looked like an auxiliary tank in one of your pictures..... excited!
@@yurgon We are in testing now (Nov 2021) and should be offering them early 2022!
@@RottweilerPerformance I’m waiting patiently in that aux tank. I wanted to do everything at once. Any time frame on the tank?
Any idea when the intake will be available for the 790/890(R) Duke?
We are looking towards the end of 2021. Currently (10/15/2021) we are in the stages of making the billet molds for both plastic and carbon fiber and then we are making parts! Closing in!
GREAT
Thank you!
How often do you think the filters should be replaced ?
As much as needed depending on your riding conditions. It’s really impossible to answer that question because of that. These systems are exactly the same as a dirt bike and the user just needs to keep an informed eye on things. If you still aren’t sure, more often never hurts and these filters are so inexpensive and packable there really isn’t much reason not to change them often and your motor will thank you for it. Same goes for stock or anything else. No real difference.
Great part and nice vid... but I am still a little bit concerned by the protruding Temperature sensor ?? What's your thought on this ? Thx
If you are talking about the outside, it is completely covered and protected by the left shroud once it is installed. Good eye, but it is perfectly protected inside the frame tubes and shroud. If you look at the final scene you will see what we are talking about here.
I have the full Rottweiler with full Akra exhaust --but the "old" power plate style. Am I missing out vs the new system here? How much? Any kind of upgrade program? Would the PCV map need to be changed? Thanks.
The Power Plate does a fantastic job at filtering dust, but is not in the same power increase category as the full system intake. That is shaped and built to do the same as the Power Plate in terms of dust protection, but carries a large horsepower gain as well. Roughly 10 horsepower to the tire at 6300 RPM as measured on our 790 test bike. Those are the major differences between the two in terms of what they accomplish power wise. The full carbon intake just adds some Formula 1 or Moto GP to the equation.
If you bought the PCV from us the maps are always free so while you don't NEED to update the map in terms of safety, it's always a good thing and free. You just need to reach out to our tech line with your order number and we will send a free code. info@rottweilerperformance.com is where the inquiry (or enquiry if you are from the EU) should go.
@@RottweilerPerformance I had the same question. I put the power plate on my 790.
Should have looked at this system first
@@8andsk835 It just comes down to budget and what you are trying to accomplish. The Power Plate does an amazing job at dust protection, but doesn't carry the same power increases as the full intake which makes about 9hp at the tire without any mapping. Throw in looks, ease of filter changes on the road, simplification of the bike and the ability to run our 1.6 gallon fuel tank that's coming out in the next few months and the full intake is a win, win, win, win.
@@RottweilerPerformance 1.6 gallon? Tell me more...
@@8andsk835 Check this video below at 1:46. We show it briefly. We are testing the first prototype this weekend (9/15/21) and just filled it up. It was actually 1.8 gallons! ruclips.net/video/Eli2d9ht2oU/видео.html
Is there any known issues to uninstall it and put back the original one ?
Not at all. Most people do that when the sell a bike and want to transfer the item to a new one and do that all the time. You are good!
@@RottweilerPerformance thanks. That might be just the case
Any plans to upload 890 dyno sheets to your product page? Curious what the gains are on the 890 vs 790.
Just suberb!! Do you guys make it for the 390 adv?
We are working on an item for that yes! Stay tuned. Probably around the end of 2023 or earlier.
Still waiting for 390 version :)@@RottweilerPerformance
This one is actually dropping soon. Working on the laser etching of the billet tops as I type. Keep an eye on our channels.@@NeerajSainiTheBoss
sweet! looking forward to it@@RottweilerPerformance
so is rally and regular version difference is carbon fiber? not performance difference?
Is there any way of securing the nuts on the inside of the intake. You say don't use locktight but I'm worried the nuts will come loose and get sucked into the barrels, and that would be expensive!
Philip, the nuts are nylock nuts and the bolts are slightly long so there is no way they will every come loose. You are welcome to Loctite those if you wish, but it is not necessary. We sometimes tell people, "Think about this: there are also about 50 lubricated bolts spinning inside your motor with no more than torque on them, and no one is worried about those", just to put things into perspective.
الله ارزقني مثل هذا الدراجة😍
Thank you for not saying, "Now what we're going to do is, we're going to ..." I hate when narrators use that phrase twice!!
LOL, I'm hoping that we actually didn't say that!
Seat height of this rally model?
Foot peg to top of rally seat is about 22" or 560mm.
Did anyone get a check engine light after installing this? I have a power commander with tune also.
If you are running a Power Commander V with a STREET map, you should not have a check engine light. If you are running a RACE map which requires that you unplug your stock narrow band O2's, then you will have an engine light. This is all spelled out on the pages on our site where the intake and Power Commander are for anyone reading this. If you are running a STREET map and still have a check engine light, just call us and we can walk you through steps to find out what that may be. It's usually something small just not plugged in and will go away after it is reconnected. Either that or you have an engine light for another unrelated reason.
@@RottweilerPerformance I have the street map with intake and decat. I also removed the evap can.
Why does he look and sound like Gerard Butler haha!
Got that one a few times for whatever reason LOL. I'll take it, as long as it's from 300. I'll work on the Scottish accent for the next video.
Why would you need a new intake? Is the stock restricting? Seems like a waste of money.
Few things Cousin Liam. First, the stock intakes leak dust very badly. See this video here. ruclips.net/video/TerSUQMBupQ/видео.html Second, this intake is a drop in 9+ horsepower to the tire. See this graph here. cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-xk32d/products/1418/images/10151/790_Intake_Dyno_Chart_2__64744.1605640556.1280.1280.png?c=2 Third, just look at it...
@@RottweilerPerformance I am more into mods that will give Torque. This bike has enough power IMHO, but thanks anyway, now I know how to disassemble part of my bike !
@@ItsOnlyFil If you like torque, then this also delivers in a big way. Check this chart here. The dotted lines are showing the measured torque. This is with a decat, Rottweiler Intake System and mapping with advanced ignition. www.dropbox.com/s/bdnkmjq9bdlmat5/RP%20INTAKE-DECAT%20EXHAUST.png?dl=0
@@RottweilerPerformance There you go ! Fun is coming , for sure I'll look into it !
Signal your tribe...😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣
We really should have cut in a sound effect right there of a Viking horn!
Yea but the hardcore rider crossing a river gets her over the seat and boom it draws in water straight down the engine breather pipe trick airboxes don't cut it for rediculas money ,up the game design some snorkel technology already... Sheez..
how about Norden 901 installation? possible? is there an install video as well?
sorry, from Italy, suspension ? rottwailer?
Hello there, we are going to need more than what you have written if you can. We can't really understand the question.
suspenction produkt rottwailer?
@@RottweilerPerformance
le sospensioni, sono di produzione nrottwailer?@@RottweilerPerformance
@@robertocollicelli6734 No, we use Solid Performance for our suspension tuning currently.