I bought this specifically for the Reverb Shaper a few weeks back. I haven't used the reverb module a ton yet but I LOVE the noise shaper. It's absolutely perfect for adding a little processed flourish to acoustic drum shells while still keeping them natural sounding (especially snares) and is 1000x easier to use and more inspiring / flexible than my traditional white noise generator setup in Reaper. I appreciate the video series on the ShaperBox stuff or I never would have even known it existed!
Shaperbox is such a good tool. I use it in all my projects and as you have shown it is quite simple to embellish sounds. Cableguys are value for money compared to other plug-in providers.
It always makes me laugh so much to see you tweaking those plugins, and "magically" figuring out some unexpected results! (unexpected result to me, but most probably targeted result for you!), like the "forward backward reverb tail", and the stop of playback head to silence the reverb. Nice! You are a Sound wizard, from whom I learn and for whom I'll always be thankful, as having insane fun through geeky audio stuff is a beautiful way to see music, and to create the unexpected... thanks. I have to admit I'm always waiting impatiently for your next video, to the point that when one comes, I find myself watching a few old ones again! Cheers! Shine!
Thank you so much for this absolutely awesome info Dan, however, I was MOST impressed with how you turned a 'not so toy' drum snare into one of the best sounding 80's snares outside of a genuine 80's track I can remember hearing!
Shaperbox is one of those plugins thats just so incredibly useful in a way that makes making music more fun. Cableguys really knocked it out of the park.
the music in this one might be my favourite reverse reverb on snares sound great and with the unique impulses this seems like a good way to easily make that effect, trance gating the reverse reverb would probably sound interesting too, thanks for the ideas!
If I could offer one touch of advice that may or may not be received in the same way as others, but I would love to hear your examples for an extra bar or two any time you show anything off. I'd love to be able to "settle into" any audible changes before hearing something new so I can feel the impact, rather than observe it in passing. Otherwise, as always, fantastic video!
That time shaper on the guitar at the end is a super cool effect. I love using effects on guitar that are outside the box like that . Great vid as always.
Some really useful stuff here (especially when it comes to TImeshaper, which I find ~way~ harder to wrap my head around than the other modules for whatever reason). Thanks, Dan.
you need to record some narrations, Dan. or e-books. people in the comments start the mornings with your voice, but I am listening to your tutorials before going to sleep. the voice is mild and still and the background ambient textures are smooth, so both combined create a nice calming atmosphere. aside of emotions, the best thing in these tutorials is their informativity. always learning a lot from them. many thanks and best regards from Ukraine. stay safe.
It started with my son's kick drum :) Then Shaperbox: dirty high pass filter with envelope follower for the boom; drive module (multi band hard clipping iirc); bit crushing. Then quite a lot of compression, on both the channel and the drum bus.
I wish there was a feature in RUclips only for this channel where I can switch off Dan speaking and just hear what's happening inside the video, his mixing psychologies are so intricate and complex that him just fiddling with a plugin sounds so musical, its like a performance in itself😂
such a cool plugin. imo the only thing missing feature would be the ability to trigger each shaper's envelope separately via MIDI, but i guess that's a quite specific use case...
Hey Dan, can you have a look at the VarietyOfSound plugins? He's been rewriting them all as 64 bit VST3, and they have gotten revisions that make them absolutely amazing. His new reverbs are incredible, and he has a third one coming! I've been a fan of them since I came across them in like 2015 or so, and getting them "back" into my life with the 64 bit updates has been a true joy!
Its probably designed to be a creative/sound design tool though I simply love using it for mix duties. If only it had an EQ - then it would be my go-to channel strip.
Dan I saw a video about adding stereo width using comb filters. I think i understood the concept. Could it be that combfilters for stereo-width be a better alternative than haas delay and other known methods? Video i talked about was a short from kilohearts. :)
It's kind of the same thing really. Haas delay will become comb filtering when the channels are mixed together. Comb filtering is literally just a short delay blended with the dry signal. I'm guessing you're referring to the widening technique where the delay is only added to the S channel? You can think of this as Haas delay, but in MS instead of LR.
@@DanWorrall yeah ok. The example They showed had almost no difference when summed in mono and where super wide in stereo. I have never heard something that wide that also works in mono. Almost like the perfect widening tool with no drawback in mono, is there such a thing? ruclips.net/user/shortsmNVe5S_6uQY?si=7fMuGqxVrDupqmuo
@@NIkalassen yes! It's not just almost no difference in mono, it's 100% perfect no difference. You create equal and opposite comb filtering for the left and right channels, which cancels completely in mono.
@@DanWorrallThanks for answer. How would you replicate this with stock plugins? Do you believe this to be an better method than to use a haas delay? :)
@NIkalassen the delay needs to be in phase for one channel, but polarity flipped for the other. You may have a utility plugin that can flip just the left or right channel? Or you can have two delay channels (same delay time) hard panned, one flipped on the channel. Neither are inherently better, just different. Go with this method if you want the part centered but wide sounding. Use a Haas if you want it off to one side but with more depth than a simple pan.
You're shaming me, Dan! I bought SB3 last year but so far haven't even used more than 5% of its features. I know it can do all these things, I just need to devote some time to learning it.
@@DanWorrall I'm assuming that wasn't directed at me, but at a Telegram spammer? If so, I probably already reported them so now I can't see the comment any more. I hate those guys. If you didn't already know, they're all over RUclips impersonating creators and making a nuisance of themselves.
no better way to start the morning than with the low and informative voice of a dan worrall video
I bought this specifically for the Reverb Shaper a few weeks back. I haven't used the reverb module a ton yet but I LOVE the noise shaper. It's absolutely perfect for adding a little processed flourish to acoustic drum shells while still keeping them natural sounding (especially snares) and is 1000x easier to use and more inspiring / flexible than my traditional white noise generator setup in Reaper. I appreciate the video series on the ShaperBox stuff or I never would have even known it existed!
Shaperbox is such a good tool. I use it in all my projects and as you have shown it is quite simple to embellish sounds. Cableguys are value for money compared to other plug-in providers.
It always makes me laugh so much to see you tweaking those plugins, and "magically" figuring out some unexpected results!
(unexpected result to me, but most probably targeted result for you!), like the "forward backward reverb tail", and the stop of playback head to silence the reverb. Nice!
You are a Sound wizard, from whom I learn and for whom I'll always be thankful, as having insane fun through geeky audio stuff is a beautiful way to see music, and to create the unexpected... thanks. I have to admit I'm always waiting impatiently for your next video, to the point that when one comes, I find myself watching a few old ones again! Cheers! Shine!
With pleasure! I just Sent you a Gmail message
I don't have all these fancy plugins, but I have a modular DAW and I can easily recreate all these effects chains. Thank you for an inspiration 👍
Bitwig?
@@leo.nordmann MULAB ♥
Thank you so much for this absolutely awesome info Dan, however, I was MOST impressed with how you turned a 'not so toy' drum snare into one of the best sounding 80's snares outside of a genuine 80's track I can remember hearing!
I love Shaperbox! Im finally getting into the nitty gritty of it all. Much thanks to your videos about it.
Shaperbox is one of those plugins thats just so incredibly useful in a way that makes making music more fun. Cableguys really knocked it out of the park.
the music in this one might be my favourite
reverse reverb on snares sound great and with the unique impulses this seems like a good way to easily make that effect, trance gating the reverse reverb would probably sound interesting too, thanks for the ideas!
I’ll forever be a Dan’s fan
If I could offer one touch of advice that may or may not be received in the same way as others, but I would love to hear your examples for an extra bar or two any time you show anything off. I'd love to be able to "settle into" any audible changes before hearing something new so I can feel the impact, rather than observe it in passing.
Otherwise, as always, fantastic video!
That time shaper on the guitar at the end is a super cool effect. I love using effects on guitar that are outside the box like that . Great vid as always.
I've always wanted to do that reverse reverb effect before the snare hit... Now I know how.
Thanks Dan! Greetings from Czech Republic
That “snare” sounds great, lots of body. I always assumed cajons had a snare wire or something on the inside
They do! Most cajons have either snare wires or strings (yes, similar to guitar strings) on the inside.
That reverse snare riff is awesome, carries the track on its own
Some really useful stuff here (especially when it comes to TImeshaper, which I find ~way~ harder to wrap my head around than the other modules for whatever reason). Thanks, Dan.
Genius. I really should pick up shaperbox and mess with this stuff. So many cool textures and possibilities
you need to record some narrations, Dan.
or e-books.
people in the comments start the mornings with your voice, but I am listening to your tutorials before going to sleep.
the voice is mild and still and the background ambient textures are smooth, so both combined create a nice calming atmosphere.
aside of emotions, the best thing in these tutorials is their informativity.
always learning a lot from them.
many thanks and best regards from Ukraine.
stay safe.
I love these in-depth videos of plugins from you! Man, would I like to see such in-depth tips & tricks for reaper! :)
holy shit that 808 kick slaps
Also my son's drum kit (with a little help from Shaper Box) :)
that bass sound was amazing, how did you made that ?
It started with my son's kick drum :) Then Shaperbox: dirty high pass filter with envelope follower for the boom; drive module (multi band hard clipping iirc); bit crushing. Then quite a lot of compression, on both the channel and the drum bus.
I wish there was a feature in RUclips only for this channel where I can switch off Dan speaking and just hear what's happening inside the video, his mixing psychologies are so intricate and complex that him just fiddling with a plugin sounds so musical, its like a performance in itself😂
such a cool plugin. imo the only thing missing feature would be the ability to trigger each shaper's envelope separately via MIDI, but i guess that's a quite specific use case...
Hey Dan, can you have a look at the VarietyOfSound plugins? He's been rewriting them all as 64 bit VST3, and they have gotten revisions that make them absolutely amazing. His new reverbs are incredible, and he has a third one coming! I've been a fan of them since I came across them in like 2015 or so, and getting them "back" into my life with the 64 bit updates has been a true joy!
I'd love to hear how you think Bitwig's Polygrid compares to Reason, and anything you might create with such a toolbox!
Hmm, I have enough of reverb plugins. But, professional video as always by mr Worrall.
Dan could post a video on the proper way to operate an orbital spindle sander; I'd still be enthralled. Thank you!
Looking forward to trying these! Kind of surprised that this is a paid update for those of us who already own shaperbox 3 though.
Mind-blowing!!! 😲
always the best!
Hey Dan. Need help. Can you make a video regarding the Cubase stock compressors and maybe the vocal chain? I need to see if they are any good.
THANK YOU
Nice to know that our kids will potentially be listening to "Dan Junior" on whatever RUclips becomes over the next 10-20 years. :)
He's already on RUclips. Fortnite and Minecraft videos :)
Very cool :))
The future is bright!@@DanWorrall
Its probably designed to be a creative/sound design tool though I simply love using it for mix duties. If only it had an EQ - then it would be my go-to channel strip.
Would love an EQ for the box!
only if you're buying!
Very good tutorial, thank you.
Shaperbox 3 is great .👍✌
Hello Dan, what Input highlighter are you using in this video?
Mouse Highlight
apps.microsoft.com/detail/9P7SB9S4RQ7Z?hl=en-US&gl=US
A creative "tip": you can use any sample as IR, doesn't have to be a reverb/cab etc.
Imagine running different Shaperbox patterns at each bar of this song and automating some of the Shaperbox modules parameters 🤯
Sure! Let's do this.
legend ❤
Dan I saw a video about adding stereo width using comb filters. I think i understood the concept. Could it be that combfilters for stereo-width be a better alternative than haas delay and other known methods?
Video i talked about was a short from kilohearts. :)
It's kind of the same thing really. Haas delay will become comb filtering when the channels are mixed together. Comb filtering is literally just a short delay blended with the dry signal. I'm guessing you're referring to the widening technique where the delay is only added to the S channel? You can think of this as Haas delay, but in MS instead of LR.
@@DanWorrall yeah ok. The example They showed had almost no difference when summed in mono and where super wide in stereo. I have never heard something that wide that also works in mono. Almost like the perfect widening tool with no drawback in mono, is there such a thing?
ruclips.net/user/shortsmNVe5S_6uQY?si=7fMuGqxVrDupqmuo
@@NIkalassen yes! It's not just almost no difference in mono, it's 100% perfect no difference. You create equal and opposite comb filtering for the left and right channels, which cancels completely in mono.
@@DanWorrallThanks for answer. How would you replicate this with stock plugins? Do you believe this to be an better method than to use a haas delay? :)
@NIkalassen the delay needs to be in phase for one channel, but polarity flipped for the other. You may have a utility plugin that can flip just the left or right channel? Or you can have two delay channels (same delay time) hard panned, one flipped on the channel. Neither are inherently better, just different. Go with this method if you want the part centered but wide sounding. Use a Haas if you want it off to one side but with more depth than a simple pan.
You're shaming me, Dan! I bought SB3 last year but so far haven't even used more than 5% of its features. I know it can do all these things, I just need to devote some time to learning it.
who are you, and why are you using my logo?
@@DanWorrall I'm assuming that wasn't directed at me, but at a Telegram spammer? If so, I probably already reported them so now I can't see the comment any more. I hate those guys. If you didn't already know, they're all over RUclips impersonating creators and making a nuisance of themselves.
@@macronencer my first one. I removed them. Sorry if I confused you.
@@DanWorrall No worries :)
@@DanWorrall got this under my comment as well, looked like an answer from you.
The price of Shaperbox seems especially good today. $99. Or, $179 for everything Cableguys makes. Is it normally that affordable?
Yes, and it often goes on sale for $89.
fire
Arguably shaper box reverb doesn't even sound good