This was, sadly, not the last time a Narn vessel's jump engines were unable to get them away from danger. Though they arguably destroyed themselves by trying their own jump engines and not standing down once the shooting stopped.
its amazing the little things you see in later rewatches like when Cynthia says that ""Growth only comes through pain and struggle."" this is the shadows very philosophy nad it makes you wonder if they were allready infuencing some people early at this time
Not really a wonder. They were responsible for getting Clark into power to begin with. The video they uncover later that outs Clark as a conspirator against the former President, he's talking to Morden.
Oh, wow. That Narn beam fired in a strange angle for the final hit. I thought they only had two forward facing beam weapons, and pulse cannons everywhere else.
The Centauri are way too reckless. They keep sending their warships to Babylon 5 and just like in this episode, they get WHUPPED. The Centauri Battlecruiser in "Fall of Night" was no different.
The NARN warships are able to take the Centauri ships in a one v one match. So the question is: how many Narn Warships were there at the start of the war and why didn't they do better?
The Centauri fleet almost certainly outnumbered the Narn in terms of capital ships. Centauri ships are older, and probably less advanced (as interstellar warships go, anyway) but their fleet was big enough that even EarthGov didn't want to piss off the Centauri. At a guess, the Centauri fleet probably outnumbered the Narn's by at least 2:1, so they could take the Narn Regime on their own militarily if they'd wanted, but they would have been badly mauled in the process. The Centauri had been an interstellar power for a century or more before Humanity came on the scene, and had built up the sort of fleet you'd expect for an expansionist race with that length of spacefaring history, while the Narn navy was practically young enough to still have that new-warship smell. They didn't have a fleet at all until after their rebellion against the Centauri succeeded. Since G'Kar was still a kid when that happened, the entire Narn fleet can't have been more than a few decades old, and they'd had to spend a lot of resources rebuilding their homeworld at the same time they were colonizing new worlds and building a navy from scratch. On top of that, as xKillingTime89 says, the Shadows did the heavy lifting in crushing the Narn's most powerful task forces. White Stars are pretty much the only non-Vorlon ships that won't get immediately stomped by Shadow battle-crabs - though to the Narn's credit, one of their task forces _did_ manage to actually shoot down a Shadow vessel at one point. The Narn task force was destroyed in the process, of course, but fighting their way so ferociously out of an ambush that they actually bloodied what may as well have been demons of the ancient world is remarkable.
This was, sadly, not the last time a Narn vessel's jump engines were unable to get them away from danger. Though they arguably destroyed themselves by trying their own jump engines and not standing down once the shooting stopped.
its amazing the little things you see in later rewatches like when Cynthia says that ""Growth only comes through pain and struggle.""
this is the shadows very philosophy nad it makes you wonder if they were allready infuencing some people early at this time
Not really a wonder. They were responsible for getting Clark into power to begin with.
The video they uncover later that outs Clark as a conspirator against the former President, he's talking to Morden.
The Narn Centauri crisis is so reminiscent of the Israel Palestine crisis now.
*NEWSFLASH:* It's obvious the *Centauri* & the *Narns* 🖤 each other to death....
Oh, wow. That Narn beam fired in a strange angle for the final hit. I thought they only had two forward facing beam weapons, and pulse cannons everywhere else.
The beams can be directed at different angles.
The Centauri are way too reckless. They keep sending their warships to Babylon 5 and just like in this episode, they get WHUPPED.
The Centauri Battlecruiser in "Fall of Night" was no different.
And that battlecruiser was stupid enough to take the first shot.
The NARN warships are able to take the Centauri ships in a one v one match.
So the question is: how many Narn Warships were there at the start of the war and why didn't they do better?
Most of the damage to the Narn fleet was done by the Shadows, who vastly out power both races.
Shadows, duh.
The Centauri fleet almost certainly outnumbered the Narn in terms of capital ships. Centauri ships are older, and probably less advanced (as interstellar warships go, anyway) but their fleet was big enough that even EarthGov didn't want to piss off the Centauri. At a guess, the Centauri fleet probably outnumbered the Narn's by at least 2:1, so they could take the Narn Regime on their own militarily if they'd wanted, but they would have been badly mauled in the process.
The Centauri had been an interstellar power for a century or more before Humanity came on the scene, and had built up the sort of fleet you'd expect for an expansionist race with that length of spacefaring history, while the Narn navy was practically young enough to still have that new-warship smell. They didn't have a fleet at all until after their rebellion against the Centauri succeeded. Since G'Kar was still a kid when that happened, the entire Narn fleet can't have been more than a few decades old, and they'd had to spend a lot of resources rebuilding their homeworld at the same time they were colonizing new worlds and building a navy from scratch.
On top of that, as xKillingTime89 says, the Shadows did the heavy lifting in crushing the Narn's most powerful task forces. White Stars are pretty much the only non-Vorlon ships that won't get immediately stomped by Shadow battle-crabs - though to the Narn's credit, one of their task forces _did_ manage to actually shoot down a Shadow vessel at one point. The Narn task force was destroyed in the process, of course, but fighting their way so ferociously out of an ambush that they actually bloodied what may as well have been demons of the ancient world is remarkable.
1:06 Shadow ideology from the corporate press.