Very good explanation and demo. When I started Aikijujutsu, I was told that O Sensei was going around the countryside teaching Aikijujutsu, and everntually had a spiritual experience in Shjinto and no longer wanted to kill anyone, so he took whaat he had Aikijujutsu and removed the 'killing' blows and developed Aikido. When he would meet someone who wanted to rob, or harm him, O Sensei would demonstrate on them, and show them that he could indeed cause them some harm, but he would get their attention and tell them that he could kill them but would rather let them go in peace, if they would do the same, and that is pretty much the philosophy of Aikido. Whereas, Aikijujutsu was developed by, and for the Samurai for the purpose of killing their opponents on the battlefield, and they didn't fool around with what would be the outcome. Aikijujutsu STILL has the killing blows or technique that O Sensei took out. Aikijujutsu "IS" everything that Aikido is, PLUS the really bad stuff. It was explained to me this way . . . . Aikijujutsu is Aikido on a REALLY BAD day. Lol.
I took a year of aikido and they would always infer aikijutsu. Like… well… you would strike here… with vague motion… and then move on to the practicing just the aikido component. Aikijutsu was always there in aikido, but as a vague indication that one should ‘do something here, but we’ll move on’. In that sense, O Sensei intended aikido to complement one’s existing style
@@MrBluemanworld Doing both would be Aikijujutsu because you are actively training for lethal encounters, but have the ability to play nice. Aikido primarily focuses on the niceties as far as I can tell and the thought of being violent, especially to the point of lethal force is frowned upon. It is easier to practice a lethal force art and to dial it back than to practice a self defense type art that works it's way up the use of force to lethal force.
What's nice is his ability to demonstrate his techniques without hurting his demo partner. Too often I see instructors being too rough and striking harder than they really need to. These techniques can be shown without the need for inflicting any pain to a student or spar partner. Kudos to you sir.
Jim D You are right Jim D but I aways tell my students to communicate with each other on what level they want to train at, sometimes your ready to go full speed and power other times your not really up for that.
Yeah you're absolutely right. After years of training "old school style" in aikibudo, I just can't follow aikido classes now. Its too soft, too lazy and students are throwing themselves without me even touching them! How the hell are you supposed to know if you are mastering the techniques correctly that way? I'm not talking about hurting people or worst, injuring them while training. But if you can't take a little pain here and there, to see and feel how the technique work in regard to body mechanics, don't do MARTIAL arts. Go take some knitting classes or something... Because I believe that part of a good learning in a martial art based on body mechanics like aikido/budo/jitsu, is to FEEL what the tecnique does to you, that way you can better understand how to apply it. Anyway I works for me that way; I learn faster when I can understand the technique and how the muscles, joints and all work out thanks to the feeling I get when someone does it to me. Otherwise I feel like i'm learning just like I would by reading a book or listening to youtube videos...
Nope. From personal experience from studying both aikido & daito ryu aiki jutsu, aikido techniques are exhibit concern for both your safety and the safety of your attacker. Daito ryu tho is designed to devastate the attacker with minimal effort on your(the defenders) part. Strikes can be used to disrupt your opponent however the strike does not disrupt the flow of the performance of techniques. If you perform a strike and have to "muscle" the technique then it is not aikijutsu. Rather it is Jujitsu.A good example between the difference between the two would be to take a look at kotegaeshi. In aikido there is an emphasis on using both hands on the hand to lock up the wrist. In aikijutsu the technique is designed to maximize the damage by using one hand on the hand to lock the wrist and using the second hand to direct the elbow into the opponents you cut and apply the throw. If down properly it will render the opponents entire arm useless after the performance of the technique Aikido is a great system designed to prevent both from being seriously injured . aikijutsu however is in its truest form designed to utilize the principle of aiki to incapacitate or kill the opponent. Hence the reason why it is necessary to perform techniques with care. It is a very simple matter to break bones when applying aikijutsu techniques. Hence the reason why when gozo shioda's & Osensei's were teaching daito ryu their dojo was called hell dojo. Breaks and injuries were common. Always take care of your uke when practicing.
Well said. When watching I was wondering if the brother actually trained in Daito ryu aikijujutsu because his explanations did not at all reflect my current experience. but never the less i hope your comment helps him in his knowledge and training Inshallah.
Excellent, excellent presentation. Both Aikido and Aiki-jitsu flow and are simply a blast to do! Studied both in a younger day, and now just practice tai chi under the pecan trees. Here's to the internal arts!
DaitoRyu Aikijiujitsu is the parent art aikido is primarily based on. Ueshiba was Takedas student ,he created a spiritual art form that was based on not hurting your opponent. using large cushioning circular movements. DaitoRyu Aikijiujitsu is about killing your opponent. it's samurai combat art. smaller circles ,tearing an arm out by the roots. it's brutal ,designed only to destroy your opponent instantly. aikido is a gentle form of this system. but also deadly if you apply the movements in original form.
As an aikdo yudansha , I have had the opportunity to train with an excellent Aiki´jutsu sensei in Asia - Paul O Hanlon from the UK - and he confirms everything Pete Bart has said. While the techniques employed may seem identical, the goals are distinctly different. For that reason, comparison of techniques is redundant, since they are essentially the same.
TRUE ! but AIKIJUTSU is not just confined to daito ryu ! AIKIJUTSU includes all body fighting forms such as boxing punches, muay/karate kicks elbows knees , and juijitsu /judo throws and grapples and chokes all applied according to the principles of aiki or blending/harmony and evasion.
I practice an art called Nihon Goshin Aikido it's not an art descended from O sensei but rather from several of his students.It is a derivative of AikiJutsu . We incorporate alot of strikes into our Aikido techniques and i believe it only makes it more effective.That being said I love and respect Aikido just as much and their break falls are some of the best i have ever seen (:
A lot of confusion was created by texts written in the 1970s and 1980s by aikido people who had only limited experience or sometimes only academic exposure to Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. There were also aikidoists in this era who wished to create a more combative approach to aikido and so sought to use the term to denote aikido with more ample use of atemi, more severe locking methods and more 'street' types of attacks. Many of these practitioners were involved in law enforcement and published texts and videos. Some very practical and useful. I think that it is this use of the term 'aikijitsu' that the poster is using here. The use of terminology such 'aikijujutsu' and 'aiki' vs 'jujutsu' in terms of application of technique all have a history within the art of Daito-ryu and represent something quite different from what is represented here. The problem is when you have various different groups using similar terms that they have appropriated and have defined differently, of course, it leads to confusion and disagreement as to what the 'real' meaning of the terms are. In the end, in such cases, each different group will have to define their own uses of the terminology for themselves and would do well not to assume that they understand how the other groups are using them. Historically, some aikidoka have seemed to enjoy portraying Daito-ryu as less subtle, more violent version of their art to the benefit of neither art, nor accuracy.
Very clear explanation of the difference. It's worth noting too that aikido is much less effective in a real situation unless you're VERY VERY good at it. Or know some actual competitive combat art in addition to aikido. I know of a 2nd dan aikido assistant instructor who was sexually assaulted -- she was emotionally broken because she didn't understand how the man could have overpowered her that easily given her belt rank.
@@Aikidoflow thanks. Agreed. Otherwise it's better to stop telling students it's a martial art, that's badly misleading and can be very dangerous as in the 2nd dan assault victim's case. For most aikido students aikido is more like the health-focused tai chi (instead of the combat focused tai chi). People like you or Ryuji Shirikawa are different. You two look like you could handle yourselves in a real situation. But you're by far the exception.
All right, couldn't handle it. This is in regards to both the video and various comments, There is so much misinformation going on here I hardly know where to begin… First off, Aikijujutsu contains both circular movements and linear movements, as well as spirals, square, and triangular movements, both in the practitioner’s own movements and those they cause to happen in the uke/attacker. So all that pontificating on the physical differences, and the related examples, in the video is total hogwash. As is, as was mentioned already, the points made about striking. Ueshiba himself is quoted as having stated on more than one occasion that “Aikido is 90% atemi”. So there is that. In essence both Aikido and Aikijujutsu are jujutsu systems, the real difference lies in the philosophical motivation behind the arts. Aikido was a vehicle for the expression of Ueshiba’s spiritual beliefs and goals, to pacify the world through his prayers and actions. Ueshiba himself was the conduit, and the practitioners of Aikido provided the energy through their training. Aikijujutsu, on the other hand, is more of a traditional jujutsu system, with concerns of pragmatic self-defense, with the situational bias of samurai-era Japan. And to that end has developed more sophisticated knowledge of anatomy and physics in order to exploit the opponent both physically and psychologically. It tends to be more precise and, as opposed to what was stated in the video, takes full advantage of the opponent's strength and movement. In advanced stages it is far more relaxed and softer than Aikido. You have to understand, Aikido was developed from Aikijujutsu. Physically it has nothing that was not already in Aikijujutsu, and to a greater degree. Aikido was, for lack of a better description, stream-lined, made "safer", and made easier to learn for a larger population. Both have atemi, circles, squares, triangles, spirals, throw, locks, holds, and pins. One uses such for the subjugation of the opponent(s) at all costs, the other with the intent peacefulness. (Though I will note that one of my arts predecessors aptly pointed out that you cannot truly offer someone mercy unless you have the capacity and ability to take that person’s life.) Weapons-wise… Daito ryu has heavy influence from traditional sword arts. Ono-ha Itto ryu being only one of them. Takeda Sokaku was also licensed in Jiki shinkage ryu, Hozoin spear, and staff arts he learned from his father and grandfather. He was also skilled in several other weapons as well. Daito ryu itself was developed prior to its connection to Itto ryu, so that information is incorrect. It is taught alongside Daito ryu because it shares many similar principles, and because Takeda Tokimune, Sokaku’s son, was admonished by his father to learn it and obtained a teaching license in the art. Daito ryu originally had its own sword system, that parts of which may still be extant in certain branches. They even had several “nito ryu” two-sword kata that were taught at advanced levels. Aikido’s weapons system is a mish-mash of various things that Ueshiba experienced, but not Yagyu Shinkage ryu. He did have some experience in Kashima Shinto ryu, in fact the first kumitachi taught by the late Saito Morihiro is “almost” identical to one of their basic kata. Ueshiba was also influenced by kendo, jukendo, Shindo Muso ryu, and other things. But, as with the taijutsu, the weapons “techniques” he developed were not intended for the practical use of the weapon, but for the development of the practitioner. Aikido is a fine art for what it is intended for. As is Aikijujutsu, its antecedent. There really is no need to compare the two. BUT, if you are going to do so do it from actual experience in the arts, not just by what you think you see. Aikijujutsu is actually intended to be subtle and deceiving, as many of the old arts are, so that you could not steal their techniques just by watching. What you see is not what you get.
+Scott M ... You have no idea what you are talking about... Not at least if you are talking about traditional Japanese martial arts, and Aiki traditions and Kenjutsu in particular... Otherwise, then I have no idea what you are talking about :P
+Scott M Well after the “shut the hell up” comment I really shouldn’t bother since you are likely not worth my time. In fact you are the one not contributing much to the discussion that I started with your inexperienced reply, other than making me have to explain more of what you don’t understand. Obviously, if you read my initial post, I have some experience in the subject matter. But I digress… The every fact that you stated “What each individual does with their weapons work and their technique is up to them. The instructors only impart a fraction and the rest is up to you once you're given the tools.” shows you have little or no experience in traditional Japanese Kenjutsu. In traditional Japanese arts in general one does not have the freedom to as they please with what they are taught. If that were the case a “tradition”, as it were, would not survive a generation. Kata are not open to self expression or modification on the part of the student in traditional Japanese bugei. They are the vehicle by which the information is passed on. Improvisation is strictly forbidden and doing so would show a great deal of presumption on the part of the student to think he knows better than the battle-experienced founders who created them. It would be seen as disrespectful of the tradition. Allowing students to do as they will with kata would result in the loss of the valuable lessons contained within. Each student will naturally perform kata in a unique manner unto themselves, even without trying to. But only when one has reach a very advanced level are they allowed to be creative, and that even under the guidance of the instructor, to ensure that one does not stray too far from the path set out by the founders of the ryu... Additionally, one can indeed be “taught” mind-body coordination, but as to whether the student can internalize the information/lessons/training, and to what degree, is based on each individual. The teacher provides the knowledge, the technique, and environment, but only diligent training can provide the results... And lastly, what you are saying is “Aiki” is an elementary description at best. Aside from the fact that virtually every system defines the term differently, some even having different kinds or types within their own teachings, it is far more complex a concept than just a sensitivity to other’s movement. That is only the beginning… And regarding your attitude: “It is better to remain a silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”. And in case you wish to question my experience I offer the following about myself as my qualifications about the subject being discussed… My name is Richard Elias, I have over 35 years of training in martial arts, focusing on traditional Japanese systems. I am one of the most advanced practitioners of Yanagi ryu, having been a direct student of the late Don Angier, the arts headmaster. I am a licensed instructor of Takamura ha Shindo Yoshin ryu under Kaicho Toby Threadgill, the inheritor of the art. I also studied Iwama ryu Aikido under Patricia Hendricks, with portion as uchideshi (live-in apprentice) in her dojo for 1.5yrs. And I did a short stint in Tendo ryu under the most advanced instructor in the USA, the late Miyako Tanaka.
Very Interesting comment here Dennis Terry, my teacher would tell me time and time again that ‘I have to be able to do something before I could choose not too’ self defence is 80% confidence and 20% technique, As Azu pointed out in this video when you have the choice you can choose! (Jason-Aikidoflow)
Jujitsu-Jujutsu and more were created from Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu one of the arts used by the Samurai they used japanese karate styles also Jigoro Kano made Judo from japanese Jujitsu which is also what Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu was made from and korean Yudo,Russian Sambo and Combat Sambo.
It's like a scale of all death blows to no death blows (by creation, intent decides if the user kills or not, but the creator of the art decided the original purpose of the move) It goes from all lethal to all gentle XD old style JJJ- Aikijujutsu- aikido
Never done aikido or Aikijujutsu. Just Yang style short form Tai Chi . But,,,,,I've ob-served a lot of both these and found that the apps of tai chi inform Aikijutsu and have been preserved in Aikido and Hapkido. I think of the essentials of Aikijujutsu and Hapkido like this : 1. joint lock 2. throw 3. killing stroke. Or... 1. joint lock 2. throw and 3. break the joint. Samurai needed techniques to use in royal residences where arms were not allowed, and police also needed effective but not deadly techniques. When OSensei demonstrated Aikido for the Emperor he ( reportedly ) first explained that Aikido is a " killing art ", and that what he would show was toned down so as not to disable his students. The Aikido approach of letting uke roll out of a technique is for training only. OSensei used atemi all the time as illustrated in his book(s). From, the classes I've observed here in Santa Cruz, CA.....Aikido is " just for fun". Cheers !!
for me the difference is mostly the intent behind each style in Aikijutsu the intent is to maim or kill the person trying to kill you. so much so i would have to think carefully about which technique to use in a self defense situation to make sure i wouldn't be the one getting charged. in many ways i think Aikido would be more practical in most cases. for example Nikajo in Aikido would be used to control an opponent but in Aikijutsu i was taught to break the wrist while taking them down ( actually the wrist then the elbow and finish it up by dislocating the shoulder ) and that's not an advanced technique.
Aikijutsu’s strike placement is interesting to say the least. With the Aikido reactions it appears you have a great opening to transition into grappling the opponent and potentially controlling them, the Aikijutsu responses seem to remove that and replace them with low impact strikes at odd moments in the exchange. This short clip seems to back up the claims that Akijutsu is a more combat focused representation of Aikido which then begs the question; what then is aikido and does it have any combat utility? Placing that question to the side if the combat/defense focused form of the art seems to primarily replace flowing throws & small joint manipulation with strikes, how does one employ any of the martial philosophy of Aiki in any practical way or can one even do that? Is it true that the art truly is useless like detractors say or is it a matter of it not being trained & practiced in a manner that allows it’s utility to be manifested. I dunno, but I’m curious because I think like many traditional martial arts, there’s something worthwhile there but it may be buried by years of tradition & poor practice but just needs to be uncovered and applied… or maybe there’s nothing there 🤷🏽♂️
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Vricharde brought an interesting point, but brought it in a very complexe way unnecessarily. In short, the difference between both are found simply in the japanese language. DO means "way", in the philosophical term. Like way of life for instance. Its the philosophy behind. The principle of flowing energy between practicing partners, that can be brought in many day-to-day life aspects. For instance, the efforts put behind trying to avoid conflicts if possible. Where jutsu (or jitsu) means "techniques". This is the "martial" part of the art. It is the same techniques actually, but executed slightly differently. It isn't true that there is more atemis in aikijutsu than in aikido. Not from what I could see in my many years of training, in different schools, in different countries. The best practical comparison I can say between them would be that aikido, is more like a dance; a choregraphy with more circular and beautifull movements, whereas aikijustsu (or aikibudo), is more practical, straight to the point and the techniques are applied not with the "respect your opponent" philosophy, but with the "you gotta end the fight quickly and definitivley cuz you're on a battlefield" one. Like in the old samurai days. For instance, when executing mukae daoshi (my preferered technique). In aikibudo class, even when the attacker is already off balance, we are taught to continue the rotating movement until the end (because the attaker is trained to fall at some precise point in the choregraphy). The same technique, when trained in akibudo, as soon as you feel he is off balance, stop turning and execute the finishing move. By continuing the technique, you only risk loosing the grip, committing a mistake, or giving him the chance to evade or get his balance back. Not couting the fact that this extra second can kill you on battlefield; no time to waste...
thumbs up (+1) I really like your videos. As a student of Shorin Ryu Karate I am always interested in learning other techniques from other styles. Thank you for sharing.
Thankyou so much for explaining the difference. I often wondered if Aiki-jutsu was just a variant name of Aikido as karate did have a variant name of karate-justsu for a short time.
If memory serves me correctly, the origin of Aikido is from Aikijujutsu. Aikido ,that was found by Ueshiba sensei was a student of the Aikijujutsu Grandmaster Sokaku sensei. This is pretty much how most martial art have evolved nowadays, to a less harmful self defense fighting system. Judo was based on Jujutsu Kendo was based on Kenjutsu. Iaido was based on Iaijutsu Kyudo was based on Kyujutsu One must understand, that in ancient times during the feudal era or the warring states era, the main purpose of these "kobudo" is to kill their enemies, while "gendai Budo" focus more on self defense. Aikido was found by Ueshiba sensei based on his spiritual philosophies and beliefs. Yeah, I know old school sounds kinda more badass, but they can be deadly, so they shouldn't be passed on casually. Real grandmasters of the koryu schools are very rare nowadays, they are mostly low profile and don't take students, only disciples.
Etymology suggests that aikido is the way, or basic blueprint, and aikijutsu is the individual customization or what the practicioner does with the blueprint
Thanks for that post. I agree about the 80% confidence and 20% technique too. Love your work and your posts. Hope to pop in and learn from you when I am down South sometime.
I study hapkiyoosool, Korean ajj... It's all about redirection and joint manipulation. There are nerve strikes but that's aiki... Making ukis body react via reflex actions to get them off balance
Wow...answers my question. Currently I'm 1st Kyu, @56 yrs. old female, Military Veteran and looking to promote to Sho Dan in 2019. I'm thinking of taking Aiki-Jujitsu perhaps while learning Laido...
Its not just using plain strength, it is more of using relative strength like using elbow strike powered by body weight as demonstrated versus the head portion there by altering the body's balance to make it fall , with no concern for the injury done to the head (or i.e. vital points) The means employed by aikido and aikijutsu are the same ie. removes balance, blend, over lead to overextend , evade, redirect blend in the direction, taking the center of gravity , no opponent/enemy-just natural force, etc ; it differs that aikijutsu IS A FIGHTING TECHNIQUE that deliberately uses the relative strength to really make the direct the defender force hit the vital points of force element (attacker) or delicate joints to point of destruction Many ( misinformed or aggressive or gullible ) people confuse these two different systems very much, to the point of ridiculing Aikido. Aikido is art to convey principles of war/fighting to obtain peace. Arts are expression or showcase of these ideas throught body movements , just like a DANCE ; while Fighting techniques are specifically used for fighting . Arts is not the same as Fighting. Because it is an "art" of peace, Aikido is not bound by any rules, unlike , Fighting is bound by rules of the ring or the criminal laws of the state, War is ruled by the geneva/UN convention (international laws-war crimes). Aikido is a sincere Martial Dance, however just add the destructive and DECEPTIVE elements (feints, boxing punches, muay boran, kicks+knees+ elbows, teeps , juijitsu grappling , judo throws, weapons TO GAIN ADVANTAGE") and it will become Aikijutsu or Fight technique NOT MARTIAL ART. IF you NEED to be in a fight but NOT REALLY INTENT to destroy or injure or dont want to engage according to fight rules, USE AIKIDO ! Train for ARTS, to understand the principles of war , or LEARN to control the FIGHTING forces (not enemy) to keep peace. or Train for FIGHTS to become effective and efficient in using force to give destruction, injuries , death and submission of the ENEMY, to make peace. Train for which purpose and whichever you need or FORCED to do !
Daito-ryu Aikijiujitsu Founder Sokaku Takeda, was O-sensei Morihei Ueshiba and Choi Young Sool's master. To say that it's more force applied in Aikijiujitsu is really biased. I'd rather say that Aikido is a blend and the interpretation of Master Ueshiba. Many of his students established their own styles of Aikido:Yoshinkan (Gozo Shioda), Yoseikan (Minoru Mochizuki), Shodokan (Kenji Tomiki), Shinei Taido (Noriaki Inoue), Iwama Ryu (Morihiro Saito), Shin Shin Toitsu (Koichi Tohei), Wadokai (Roy Suenaka),etc. etc. I have made my own style "Makoto Rei"(Rudy Rodríguez), which blends aikijiujitsu, aikido, wing chun and kali into a single modern combat-effective-oriented style.
I agree with you if we only consider as "proof" the strict records and certificates issued by sensei Takeda. But those were not the only sources for learning directly from him since Choi was his employee, according to his statements.
A similar case in Tai Chi Chuan: when the Chen Family never accepted other members but relatives ( in Chen Jia Kou), Yang Lu Chan (father of Yang Chen Fu) could learn the Chen Style while watching the class, since he was an employee of the Chen Family. Later He created the Yang Style of Tai Chi Chuan.
Is aiki-jutsu just ju-jutsu with out kicks and punches? Just asking cuz the teniques were the same as they do in ju-jutsu.. Have read that the Morihei Ueshiba was good at ju-jutsu and created the aikido art in mind to avoid injuries from the defender and attacker what is why the moves are so similar to ju-jutsu but much kinder versions of the moves :3
Agreed with this, however I was trained to not throw them. ie shorten up technique and have them fall at your feet whilst still have an arm connection. Then you can destroy, lock, break etc etc and have control so they dont re attack. All done on feet whilst attacker on ground so if another attacks you can move. No one else there go to ground for choke armbar etc
The way I came to understand the difference between "do" and "jutsu" is similar to the difference between philosophy and science. "Do" translates to "way" if I remember correctly, and when practicing any form of "do", be it judo or aikido, is that there isn't just a focus on the physical techniques, but there is also a lot of philosophy. A "do" art is meant not only as practicing self defence, but it's also a lifestyle. It's meant to be something you commit your whole being and mind into, heck even your life sometimes. "Jutsu" on the other hand translates to "technique" (Science or art might also be a good ways to translate it), and from what I've come to understand, its focus was less about the philosophy and more about techniques. It's more direct. Reading between the lines, the explanation he gives isn't all that bad. Aikido is more about flowing with your opponent, redirecting force and not struggling against your opponent. It's what O'sensei Ueshiba preached. It wasn't just a tool for self defence, but it was mainly a tool of self development and betterment. Aikijutsu would be more direct, and more a science. How to most effectively take down your opponent. That is not to say that one is better than the other. Thoughts?
Agreed. Arts like jujutsu, aikijujutsu, kenjutsu, and such were designed for wartime efforts during the Warring States Periods. With the onset of modernization and transition from wartime to peacetime in Japan, society demanded that martial arts had to also modernize and cater to more peaceable pursuit...otherwise they would lose interest. This includes the heavy transformation karate went through as it migrated to Japan. It adopted judo's gi, developed a sparring system used by kendo, and in Shotokan many of the kata were given Japanese names. These things had to happen in order to appeal to a post-feudal, yet still nationalistic Japan back then.
so, I hope this isn't a really silly question, but I'll ask it anyway (arguably because I'm silly). O'Sensei (Morehei Ueshiba) was pretty expert in Aikijutsu before Aikido came about, the style I train in is Yoshinkan (so founded by Gozo Shioda, formerly a Judoka before training to 10th Dan under O'Sensei). My question is, how helpful is Aikijutsu in the practice of Aikido and vice versa? are they at all complimentary and the one makes the other easier to grasp? or are they more like quite separate forms? I guess an analogy might be musical instruments, learning the violin can make the viola easier to learn, but it won't help much with trombone, learning all three might help you become a better musician generally, but there's also the argument that time spent practicing different instruments might be better employed on the mastery of any one. Reason I ask is because I hear a lot of debate about the effectiveness of Aikido in "real life", personally I'd be just thrilled if I never had to test that out, I do Aikido because I enjoy it and it improves my health and wellbeing, certainly not to maim anyone, that said, if ever I DID have to use a technique, I'd like to know it's going to work. It seems to me that the two together might help bridge the gap between the practical and the spiritual.
+Some Guy ..As well as a great taste in music..lol!! I think you understand this perfectly. Our view is Aikido is structured as to not damage you are your training partner which means you can train for a lifetime, but Aikijutsu is 'Full" or in Star Wars terms 'Attacking speed' which is real combat, so you cant do that all the time.
I've studied Hiriki Ryu Aikido since 1987..... O Sensei taught Atemi. O Sensei did not name his martial art. A council voted on the name being Aikido. The other thought is this: Why add insult to injury if you do a proper throw? People that do not know Ukemi or falling arts fall horribly and bruise and break bones. Falls are awful!!(ask anyone who slipped on ice) Aikido jujitsu,Kokyu Ryu Aikijitsu,so on and so forth are Aikido core forms. It was often. Quoted that O Sensei had strong legs and would at times kick students....though many kicking techniques aren't taught.....but I digress. There are similarities in both. Aikijutsu family is about 12,000 moves. Aikido? Roughly 3,000 moves. Yoshinkan Aikido...1500 moves(Simplified) I hope that helps?
+aikidoflow if I want to have both options, aikido and aiki jujitsu, like you recommend but to mainly use aikido unless I am overwhelmed, do you recommend starting with aikido only then learning aikido jujitsu after, or straight to aikido jujitsu?
So you two are black belts in Karate as well? Can you tell a little bit about your other martial experiences and how they influence your understanding of Aikido and Budo in general? For my part, I'm a 2. Dan in Shotokan and a 7. Kyu in Aikido right now =) Sometimes I thing the two have absolutley nothing in common and other times I think, it is all the same, everything is one. Do you feel me?
+FightClubStellingen I do feel you. I believe that you can find elements of Aikido in all martial arts and it is a great art to combine with others.The only other art I have studied is Wing Chun and that wasn't for long. I spent a lot of time as a kid hitting punch bags in my bedroom and practising the Wing Chun style of punching but I am far from knowing anything solid. A lot of my experience has come form real life situations. As a nightclub doorman I have been in a lot of situations which has helped me build up my confidence when it come to a real fight.Azu.
Actually, DO means WAY, and jutsu (also spelled jitsu) means technique. One refers to the philosophy behind the art, the other refers purely to the techniques. Hence you have aikijutsu that take the same techniques, but as they were designed back in the days to destroy your opponent (the MARTIAL component of martial arts), and aikido which take the techniques, and transform them and the way they are practiced in order to follow some code of conduct, or philosophy. Hence the very smooth and non agressive techniques that do not work anymore in a real fight because they lack the propre intent and form. They are not used as they were designed for like I explained in another post.
Hi Aikidoflow! I have been curious about the difference between the two. I only practice Aikido. Aikijutsu seems to be like Jiu Jitsu. Thanks for posting.
Hi hood3074. I have never practised Jiu Jitsu but I think it's mainly ground work. As you know in Aikido we try to stay on our feet. Aikijutsu is similar to Aikido but it's more direct. I was once told that Aikijutsu is what the Samurai used on the battle field when they lost their swords. Aikijutsu uses strength, strikes and less circles and it's designed to finish a fight quickly. When we practice Aikido we train in such a way so we don't hurt each other. Next time you train, think about strikes you could add into your techniques and how you could make each technique more explosive and damaging (but without hurting anyone) and that is Aikijutsu. Thanks Azu.
Dear Aikidoflow, Thanks for the quick and detailed response. The comment about the Samurai was new to me. I appreciate the idea of adding strikes to the techniques. I will take that to mind. Yours hood3074
Aikidoflow Hi, Aikidoflow, how are you? I think (not certain) that you are thinking of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, as it is most all ground work leading to a submission. I think the main difference between Aikijutsu and 'traditional' Jiu Jitsui is the missing of the 'flow' and grabs. That was a very hard question, and I'm not sure it can be answered in a definitive manner. I guess Aikijutsu isn't quite as 'rough'? Great video! '
Thank you for the video. This is the second time that I watched it. So thank you for keeping me posted. I do wonder how Aikido could be used against kicks? Keep up the good work.
yes , by quickly getting out of the way of the kick, that is already aikido going to the center (pivot ) side or back of the kicker to unbalance by using body weight on the hips of kicker or lifting the head of the kicker to change the direction versus the direction of the legs, or pulling the neck from the back to make the kicker fall is AIKIDO kicking the pivot leg is AIKIJUTSU just standing there to perform a "FAVORITE"/" in my expert opinion the best "aikido techniuqe is NOT AIKIDO. Aikido is not concern with opinions but the SINCERE assessment of what is in front /reality. This is what troubles the aikidoist playing by the rules of a fight , forcing opponents to score hits on each other. Aikido is NOT about INTENTLY SEARCHING OR LOOKING FOR TO GIVE DAMAGING HITS !
It must depend on the system. I have been teaching Aikijujutsu for 10 years and studying for 20. And if you're using muscular strength, then you're not doing Aikijujutsu. Very soft and fluid movements, just as our kenjutsu is. I have seen some systems that are very different though. By our standards, aikido is uses a very hard energy. Not a criticism, just noting my experiences.
+John Savaria Thank you. One of the reasons we make these videos is to learn from others. We are always learning at Aikidoflow and no one can claim to know everything. Your advise is always welcome as we could learn a lot form someone with your experience.Azu.
The difference is Aikido modified the move from Ancient move of Aikido and AikiJutJitSu is AikiDo + JuDo + JitDo or AikiSu + JutSu + JitSu 3 difference elements in AikiJutJitSu.
+Aikidoflow it was only a question about your opinion. For myself: i've been practising Aikido for one and a half years. Could you make a video about how i can train reaction for selfdefense with Aikido? With partner and alone?
I see what he is saying. But I have seen so many Aikido masters do what he does. Steven Seagal has done that. He does a hard form. People think you can't punch or kick in Aikido, that isn't true. I have seen Masters dodge their opponent spin around, grab them by neck of shirt to ground and twist their arm. ANYTHING is possible in Aikido.
I would say good video, basecally this is the main difference between those two brother martial art in a sense of technics but the major difference is in the spirit (soul) of the art.Aikido is most likely for harmonizing energy then apply it when it should be apply instead of Aiki-jutsu which have been built to destroy (K.O.) your opponent (in Aikido there is no opponent, just partner)
thanks for your videos, love them. Tell me if you believe i am mistaken, aikido is the complete philsosphy for living developed by O sensai including sword, meditation and aikijutsu as a way of cultivating oneself into a better person to help build a better society. Aikijutsu is the empty handed tecniques used to express aikido taken from many of the moves in judo, tai chi and juijitsu. And then there is the budo of sword staff and bokken training. thanks and God Bless
Ps aikido works very well when the mind is sharp and spirit open, I have studied Tai chi, Shorin Ryu, WIng Tsun and AIkido. Unfortunatley i have lived in alot of violence being that I live in gang territory and have to deal with being assaulted several times a year. More than any other of my studies, My aikido/Aikijitsu has saved me from being overwhelmed by groups of "people" manytimes. I should be dead and would be if not for this training. Aikido is great for dealing with dynamics of multiple armed attackers when u can stay calm and aware of everything everyone is doing around you. I am very thankfu; for my walk in Aikido
As far as I understand "Real Aikido" is just like a brand from a few guys from Serbia for their flavour of Aikido. I don't want to hate on them because it looks ok from what I've seen on RUclips. Just wanted to point out that adding "Real", "Combat", "Concepts" etc. is also becoming a trend for people who want to differentiate themselves. There is all kinds of these things: Panantukan Concepts, Raw Silat, Aikido Combatives, etc. I like almost all of this as I'm more into reality-based vs. "traditional" martial arts, but beware, this is also or might become a marketing gimmick.
you are wrong about age and Dai To Ryu Aiki Jujutsu. the founder Takeda Sokaku was a small man just a little smaller then O'sensei. Mori Hakaru the now Director, Kobayashi Kiyohiro who isDeputy Director and also Manager, Nakayama Yoshio is the Assistant Manager. They are the Takumakai Branch of of Dai To Ryu Aiki Jujutsu from Osaka. you can research your self. I have been doing both Aikido and Dai To Ryu Aiki Jujutsu here in Japan for almost 30 years now. I came here not knowing about either of them. I have trained with so many of the famous Aikido teachers here. I was first Deshi in Aikido. after 7 years I was told to research the roots of Aikido. this lead me to Nakayama sensei who was teaching the same place as me. From the clips I have seen I was like you thinking it was too much power. But do not forget it is where Aikido comes from and Kobayashi senei is a Grand Master in both. yes, they have atemi but so does Aikido. It all depends on your level and teacher if they teach you it. All I ask you here is please be careful what you say. Check your facts first please. As I was told by Osawa sensei of Aikido do not follow blindly know where you come from and where you are going so when the time comes you can find your own way.
Hey Azu , How are you?? very nice video, I trainning Aikido in the Brazil( Rio de Janeiro)..Aikijujutsu is more Hard, I like Aikijujutsu, Is good using in the Street..
Thanks, it's good to know that what I'm talking about is clear to some people but I'm always learning so any advice you can give would be welcome. Thanks.
Hi sir, first of all ty for share this with other people, and i love how u teach. I have an hones question, i wonder if aikido, not the aikido which u know, but aikido which is taught in any other dojo could be effective against brasilian jiu jitsu or judo, i dont want to bring controversy, its just an honest question. TY sir
BJJ and judo are full on competitive arts and have fully resisting opponents. Aikido does not. 99 times out of 100 the aikido practitioner is gonna get dominated unless he uses non aikido techniques to supplement his ability. A pure aikidoist vs a pure judo or bjj practitioner is in for a world of hurt.
In martial arts you can stop at any point, so in Aikijutsu couldn't you just as easily change the strike to a push and achieve the same effect? Based on your examples the sparring partner still hit the mat.
Very good explanation and demo. When I started Aikijujutsu, I was told that O Sensei was going around the countryside teaching Aikijujutsu, and everntually had a spiritual experience in Shjinto and no longer wanted to kill anyone, so he took whaat he had Aikijujutsu and removed the 'killing' blows and developed Aikido. When he would meet someone who wanted to rob, or harm him, O Sensei would demonstrate on them, and show them that he could indeed cause them some harm, but he would get their attention and tell them that he could kill them but would rather let them go in peace, if they would do the same, and that is pretty much the philosophy of Aikido. Whereas, Aikijujutsu was developed by, and for the Samurai for the purpose of killing their opponents on the battlefield, and they didn't fool around with what would be the outcome. Aikijujutsu STILL has the killing blows or technique that O Sensei took out. Aikijujutsu "IS" everything that Aikido is, PLUS the really bad stuff. It was explained to me this way . . . . Aikijujutsu is Aikido on a REALLY BAD day. Lol.
Thanks ...at least someone knows !
I took a year of aikido and they would always infer aikijutsu. Like… well… you would strike here… with vague motion… and then move on to the practicing just the aikido component.
Aikijutsu was always there in aikido, but as a vague indication that one should ‘do something here, but we’ll move on’.
In that sense, O Sensei intended aikido to complement one’s existing style
Tijuitsu
I say do both
@@MrBluemanworld Doing both would be Aikijujutsu because you are actively training for lethal encounters, but have the ability to play nice. Aikido primarily focuses on the niceties as far as I can tell and the thought of being violent, especially to the point of lethal force is frowned upon. It is easier to practice a lethal force art and to dial it back than to practice a self defense type art that works it's way up the use of force to lethal force.
What's nice is his ability to demonstrate his techniques without hurting his demo partner. Too often I see instructors being too rough and striking harder than they really need to. These techniques can be shown without the need for inflicting any pain to a student or spar partner. Kudos to you sir.
Jitom7 I noticed that as well...but I think part of it had to do with the opponent himself, who seemed well skilled. Extremely agile, if not.
Jitom7 thank you Jitom7
Jim D You are right Jim D but I aways tell my students to communicate with each other on what level they want to train at, sometimes your ready to go full speed and power other times your not really up for that.
Yeah you're absolutely right. After years of training "old school style" in aikibudo, I just can't follow aikido classes now. Its too soft, too lazy and students are throwing themselves without me even touching them! How the hell are you supposed to know if you are mastering the techniques correctly that way? I'm not talking about hurting people or worst, injuring them while training. But if you can't take a little pain here and there, to see and feel how the technique work in regard to body mechanics, don't do MARTIAL arts. Go take some knitting classes or something... Because I believe that part of a good learning in a martial art based on body mechanics like aikido/budo/jitsu, is to FEEL what the tecnique does to you, that way you can better understand how to apply it. Anyway I works for me that way; I learn faster when I can understand the technique and how the muscles, joints and all work out thanks to the feeling I get when someone does it to me. Otherwise I feel like i'm learning just like I would by reading a book or listening to youtube videos...
The Deshi or student must learn or master Ukemi so that the Nage can execute naturally or in reality.
Aiki-jitsu is incorporated into the American Goju Karate style I study. brutal art.
To be fair the main purpose of goju is to literally cause as much pain as humanly possible
Nope. From personal experience from studying both aikido & daito ryu aiki jutsu, aikido techniques are exhibit concern for both your safety and the safety of your attacker. Daito ryu tho is designed to devastate the attacker with minimal effort on your(the defenders) part. Strikes can be used to disrupt your opponent however the strike does not disrupt the flow of the performance of techniques. If you perform a strike and have to "muscle" the technique then it is not aikijutsu. Rather it is Jujitsu.A good example between the difference between the two would be to take a look at kotegaeshi. In aikido there is an emphasis on using both hands on the hand to lock up the wrist. In aikijutsu the technique is designed to maximize the damage by using one hand on the hand to lock the wrist and using the second hand to direct the elbow into the opponents you cut and apply the throw. If down properly it will render the opponents entire arm useless after the performance of the technique Aikido is a great system designed to prevent both from being seriously injured . aikijutsu however is in its truest form designed to utilize the principle of aiki to incapacitate or kill the opponent. Hence the reason why it is necessary to perform techniques with care. It is a very simple matter to break bones when applying aikijutsu techniques. Hence the reason why when gozo shioda's & Osensei's were teaching daito ryu their dojo was called hell dojo. Breaks and injuries were common. Always take care of your uke when practicing.
Well said brother. 👍👍👍
Total ignorance of subject matter , Aikido and Aikijujitsu does not bother this fellow .
Well said. When watching I was wondering if the brother actually trained in Daito ryu aikijujutsu because his explanations did not at all reflect my current experience. but never the less i hope your comment helps him in his knowledge and training Inshallah.
Salam 3alykoum brother what’s the difference between aikijutjetsu and jutjetsu
I've trained in youtubejutsu.
Excellent, excellent presentation. Both Aikido and Aiki-jitsu flow and are simply a blast to do!
Studied both in a younger day, and now just practice tai chi under the pecan trees.
Here's to the internal arts!
I love this channel! As a 70 year old guy still in good shape, Aikido looks fascinating to me.
DaitoRyu Aikijiujitsu is the parent art aikido is primarily based on. Ueshiba was Takedas student ,he created a spiritual art form that was based on not hurting your opponent. using large cushioning circular movements. DaitoRyu Aikijiujitsu is about killing your opponent. it's samurai combat art. smaller circles ,tearing an arm out by the roots. it's brutal ,designed only to destroy your opponent instantly. aikido is a gentle form of this system. but also deadly if you apply the movements in original form.
Probably the best explanation ive read here...one is to dissipate and preserve out of love and respect for life the other is to destroy !
As an aikdo yudansha , I have had the opportunity to train with an excellent Aiki´jutsu sensei in Asia - Paul O Hanlon from the UK - and he confirms everything Pete Bart has said. While the techniques employed may seem identical, the goals are distinctly different. For that reason, comparison of techniques is redundant, since they are essentially the same.
TRUE ! but AIKIJUTSU is not just confined to daito ryu !
AIKIJUTSU includes all body fighting forms such as boxing punches, muay/karate kicks elbows knees , and juijitsu /judo throws and grapples and chokes all applied according to the principles of aiki or blending/harmony and evasion.
I practice an art called Nihon Goshin Aikido it's not an art descended from O sensei but rather from several of his students.It is a derivative of AikiJutsu . We incorporate alot of strikes into our Aikido techniques and i believe it only makes it more effective.That being said I love and respect Aikido just as much and their break falls are some of the best i have ever seen (:
Lol...you mean put back ....Aikido is not to harm people ....Aikijujutsu is .
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar of the Martial Arts. Bless you and your family.
A lot of confusion was created by texts written in the 1970s and 1980s by aikido people who had only limited experience or sometimes only academic exposure to Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. There were also aikidoists in this era who wished to create a more combative approach to aikido and so sought to use the term to denote aikido with more ample use of atemi, more severe locking methods and more 'street' types of attacks. Many of these practitioners were involved in law enforcement and published texts and videos. Some very practical and useful. I think that it is this use of the term 'aikijitsu' that the poster is using here. The use of terminology such 'aikijujutsu' and 'aiki' vs 'jujutsu' in terms of application of technique all have a history within the art of Daito-ryu and represent something quite different from what is represented here. The problem is when you have various different groups using similar terms that they have appropriated and have defined differently, of course, it leads to confusion and disagreement as to what the 'real' meaning of the terms are. In the end, in such cases, each different group will have to define their own uses of the terminology for themselves and would do well not to assume that they understand how the other groups are using them. Historically, some aikidoka have seemed to enjoy portraying Daito-ryu as less subtle, more violent version of their art to the benefit of neither art, nor accuracy.
aikijutsu does not originate from daito ryu, daito only recognized & calls it
Aikijutsu is universal can exists in all body fighting forms.
Very clear explanation of the difference. It's worth noting too that aikido is much less effective in a real situation unless you're VERY VERY good at it. Or know some actual competitive combat art in addition to aikido. I know of a 2nd dan aikido assistant instructor who was sexually assaulted -- she was emotionally broken because she didn't understand how the man could have overpowered her that easily given her belt rank.
Very good point and a wake up call, Aikido needs to be moved out of the dojo and on to the street.
@@Aikidoflow thanks. Agreed. Otherwise it's better to stop telling students it's a martial art, that's badly misleading and can be very dangerous as in the 2nd dan assault victim's case.
For most aikido students aikido is more like the health-focused tai chi (instead of the combat focused tai chi).
People like you or Ryuji Shirikawa are different. You two look like you could handle yourselves in a real situation. But you're by far the exception.
All right, couldn't handle it. This is in regards to both the video and various comments, There is so much misinformation going on here I hardly know where to begin…
First off, Aikijujutsu contains both circular movements and linear movements, as well as spirals, square, and triangular movements, both in the practitioner’s own movements and those they cause to happen in the uke/attacker. So all that pontificating on the physical differences, and the related examples, in the video is total hogwash. As is, as was mentioned already, the points made about striking. Ueshiba himself is quoted as having stated on more than one occasion that “Aikido is 90% atemi”. So there is that.
In essence both Aikido and Aikijujutsu are jujutsu systems, the real difference lies in the philosophical motivation behind the arts. Aikido was a vehicle for the expression of Ueshiba’s spiritual beliefs and goals, to pacify the world through his prayers and actions. Ueshiba himself was the conduit, and the practitioners of Aikido provided the energy through their training. Aikijujutsu, on the other hand, is more of a traditional jujutsu system, with concerns of pragmatic self-defense, with the situational bias of samurai-era Japan. And to that end has developed more sophisticated knowledge of anatomy and physics in order to exploit the opponent both physically and psychologically. It tends to be more precise and, as opposed to what was stated in the video, takes full advantage of the opponent's strength and movement. In advanced stages it is far more relaxed and softer than Aikido.
You have to understand, Aikido was developed from Aikijujutsu. Physically it has nothing that was not already in Aikijujutsu, and to a greater degree. Aikido was, for lack of a better description, stream-lined, made "safer", and made easier to learn for a larger population.
Both have atemi, circles, squares, triangles, spirals, throw, locks, holds, and pins. One uses such for the subjugation of the opponent(s) at all costs, the other with the intent peacefulness. (Though I will note that one of my arts predecessors aptly pointed out that you cannot truly offer someone mercy unless you have the capacity and ability to take that person’s life.)
Weapons-wise…
Daito ryu has heavy influence from traditional sword arts. Ono-ha Itto ryu being only one of them. Takeda Sokaku was also licensed in Jiki shinkage ryu, Hozoin spear, and staff arts he learned from his father and grandfather. He was also skilled in several other weapons as well. Daito ryu itself was developed prior to its connection to Itto ryu, so that information is incorrect. It is taught alongside Daito ryu because it shares many similar principles, and because Takeda Tokimune, Sokaku’s son, was admonished by his father to learn it and obtained a teaching license in the art. Daito ryu originally had its own sword system, that parts of which may still be extant in certain branches. They even had several “nito ryu” two-sword kata that were taught at advanced levels.
Aikido’s weapons system is a mish-mash of various things that Ueshiba experienced, but not Yagyu Shinkage ryu. He did have some experience in Kashima Shinto ryu, in fact the first kumitachi taught by the late Saito Morihiro is “almost” identical to one of their basic kata. Ueshiba was also influenced by kendo, jukendo, Shindo Muso ryu, and other things. But, as with the taijutsu, the weapons “techniques” he developed were not intended for the practical use of the weapon, but for the development of the practitioner.
Aikido is a fine art for what it is intended for. As is Aikijujutsu, its antecedent. There really is no need to compare the two. BUT, if you are going to do so do it from actual experience in the arts, not just by what you think you see. Aikijujutsu is actually intended to be subtle and deceiving, as many of the old arts are, so that you could not steal their techniques just by watching. What you see is not what you get.
Well said. The difference between Aikido and Aikijutsu is intent.
I think the only true difference is that aikijujitsu students actually practices the hits.
giorgio ciaravolol ha yes! Sometimes I'd like to land one.
+Scott M ... You have no idea what you are talking about... Not at least if you are talking about traditional Japanese martial arts, and Aiki traditions and Kenjutsu in particular... Otherwise, then I have no idea what you are talking about :P
+Scott M
Well after the “shut the hell up” comment I really shouldn’t bother since you are likely not worth my time. In fact you are the one not contributing much to the discussion that I started with your inexperienced reply, other than making me have to explain more of what you don’t understand. Obviously, if you read my initial post, I have some experience in the subject matter. But I digress… The every fact that you stated “What each individual does with their weapons work and their technique is up to them. The instructors only impart a fraction and the rest is up to you once you're given the tools.” shows you have little or no experience in traditional Japanese Kenjutsu. In traditional Japanese arts in general one does not have the freedom to as they please with what they are taught. If that were the case a “tradition”, as it were, would not survive a generation. Kata are not open to self expression or modification on the part of the student in traditional Japanese bugei. They are the vehicle by which the information is passed on. Improvisation is strictly forbidden and doing so would show a great deal of presumption on the part of the student to think he knows better than the battle-experienced founders who created them. It would be seen as disrespectful of the tradition. Allowing students to do as they will with kata would result in the loss of the valuable lessons contained within. Each student will naturally perform kata in a unique manner unto themselves, even without trying to. But only when one has reach a very advanced level are they allowed to be creative, and that even under the guidance of the instructor, to ensure that one does not stray too far from the path set out by the founders of the ryu... Additionally, one can indeed be “taught” mind-body coordination, but as to whether the student can internalize the information/lessons/training, and to what degree, is based on each individual. The teacher provides the knowledge, the technique, and environment, but only diligent training can provide the results... And lastly, what you are saying is “Aiki” is an elementary description at best. Aside from the fact that virtually every system defines the term differently, some even having different kinds or types within their own teachings, it is far more complex a concept than just a sensitivity to other’s movement. That is only the beginning… And regarding your attitude: “It is better to remain a silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”.
And in case you wish to question my experience I offer the following about myself as my qualifications about the subject being discussed…
My name is Richard Elias, I have over 35 years of training in martial arts, focusing on traditional Japanese systems. I am one of the most advanced practitioners of Yanagi ryu, having been a direct student of the late Don Angier, the arts headmaster. I am a licensed instructor of Takamura ha Shindo Yoshin ryu under Kaicho Toby Threadgill, the inheritor of the art. I also studied Iwama ryu Aikido under Patricia Hendricks, with portion as uchideshi (live-in apprentice) in her dojo for 1.5yrs. And I did a short stint in Tendo ryu under the most advanced instructor in the USA, the late Miyako Tanaka.
Very Interesting comment here Dennis Terry, my teacher would tell me time and time again that ‘I have to be able to do something before I could choose not too’ self defence is 80% confidence and 20% technique, As Azu pointed out in this video when you have the choice you can choose! (Jason-Aikidoflow)
+Aikidoflow You brought up age, How old are you? Are you in your late 30's or early 40's?
Jujitsu-Jujutsu and more were created from Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu one of the arts used by the Samurai they used japanese karate styles also Jigoro Kano made Judo from japanese Jujitsu which is also what Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu was made from and korean Yudo,Russian Sambo and Combat Sambo.
+Christina no you cant, you cant just watch techniques and then reproduce them especially with Aikijujutsu you need hands on with a real teacher.
It's like a scale of all death blows to no death blows (by creation, intent decides if the user kills or not, but the creator of the art decided the original purpose of the move)
It goes from all lethal to all gentle XD
old style JJJ- Aikijujutsu- aikido
Thank you Christos
Aikijustu-Offense
Aikido-Defense
Never done aikido or Aikijujutsu. Just Yang style short form Tai Chi . But,,,,,I've ob-served a lot of both these and found that the apps of tai chi inform Aikijutsu and have been preserved in Aikido and Hapkido. I think of the essentials of Aikijujutsu and
Hapkido like this : 1. joint lock 2. throw 3. killing stroke. Or... 1. joint lock 2. throw and 3. break the joint. Samurai needed techniques to use in royal residences where
arms were not allowed, and police also needed effective but not deadly techniques.
When OSensei demonstrated Aikido for the Emperor he ( reportedly ) first explained
that Aikido is a " killing art ", and that what he would show was toned down so as not
to disable his students. The Aikido approach of letting uke roll out of a technique is for
training only. OSensei used atemi all the time as illustrated in his book(s). From, the
classes I've observed here in Santa Cruz, CA.....Aikido is " just for fun". Cheers !!
for me the difference is mostly the intent behind each style in Aikijutsu the intent is to maim or kill the person trying to kill you. so much so i would have to think carefully about which technique to use in a self defense situation to make sure i wouldn't be the one getting charged. in many ways i think Aikido would be more practical in most cases.
for example Nikajo in Aikido would be used to control an opponent but in Aikijutsu i was taught to break the wrist while taking them down ( actually the wrist then the elbow and finish it up by dislocating the shoulder ) and that's not an advanced technique.
Good clear and confident instruction. Power evident even in your restraint. Thank you Sensei.
Aikijutsu’s strike placement is interesting to say the least. With the Aikido reactions it appears you have a great opening to transition into grappling the opponent and potentially controlling them, the Aikijutsu responses seem to remove that and replace them with low impact strikes at odd moments in the exchange.
This short clip seems to back up the claims that Akijutsu is a more combat focused representation of Aikido which then begs the question; what then is aikido and does it have any combat utility? Placing that question to the side if the combat/defense focused form of the art seems to primarily replace flowing throws & small joint manipulation with strikes, how does one employ any of the martial philosophy of Aiki in any practical way or can one even do that? Is it true that the art truly is useless like detractors say or is it a matter of it not being trained & practiced in a manner that allows it’s utility to be manifested. I dunno, but I’m curious because I think like many traditional martial arts, there’s something worthwhile there but it may be buried by years of tradition & poor practice but just needs to be uncovered and applied… or maybe there’s nothing there 🤷🏽♂️
Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu DVD by Katsuyuki Kondo
Kondo Sensei demonstrates the subtleties and awesome techniques of Daito Ryu in this DVD. For anyone who hasn't seen Daito Ryu before this is an excellent introduction. Besides numerous technique demonstration, there are 2 full Daito Ryu public demonstrations, Daito Ryu history, interviews and more. DVD contents are:
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Dont forget that O'Sensei trained in Aiki Jutsu a long time before he founded Aikido 😉 Where is all the love peoples ? Sounds like angry MMA fans 😂😂😂
Mikrofon Myrderen Originally the MMA of the Feudal Era, lol
You learn something new every day cause I had never heard of aikujitsu
Have you heard of Samurai? Aikijujutsu is the hand to hand combat of the Samurai.
Thank you for all these technique I like to watch all of you
Vricharde brought an interesting point, but brought it in a very complexe way unnecessarily. In short, the difference between both are found simply in the japanese language. DO means "way", in the philosophical term. Like way of life for instance. Its the philosophy behind. The principle of flowing energy between practicing partners, that can be brought in many day-to-day life aspects. For instance, the efforts put behind trying to avoid conflicts if possible. Where jutsu (or jitsu) means "techniques". This is the "martial" part of the art. It is the same techniques actually, but executed slightly differently. It isn't true that there is more atemis in aikijutsu than in aikido. Not from what I could see in my many years of training, in different schools, in different countries. The best practical comparison I can say between them would be that aikido, is more like a dance; a choregraphy with more circular and beautifull movements, whereas aikijustsu (or aikibudo), is more practical, straight to the point and the techniques are applied not with the "respect your opponent" philosophy, but with the "you gotta end the fight quickly and definitivley cuz you're on a battlefield" one. Like in the old samurai days. For instance, when executing mukae daoshi (my preferered technique). In aikibudo class, even when the attacker is already off balance, we are taught to continue the rotating movement until the end (because the attaker is trained to fall at some precise point in the choregraphy). The same technique, when trained in akibudo, as soon as you feel he is off balance, stop turning and execute the finishing move. By continuing the technique, you only risk loosing the grip, committing a mistake, or giving him the chance to evade or get his balance back. Not couting the fact that this extra second can kill you on battlefield; no time to waste...
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I really like your videos. As a student of Shorin Ryu Karate I am always interested in learning other techniques from other styles. Thank you for sharing.
Thankyou so much for explaining the difference.
I often wondered if Aiki-jutsu was just a variant name of Aikido as karate did have a variant name of karate-justsu for a short time.
If memory serves me correctly, the origin of Aikido is from Aikijujutsu.
Aikido ,that was found by Ueshiba sensei was a student of the Aikijujutsu Grandmaster Sokaku sensei.
This is pretty much how most martial art have evolved nowadays, to a less harmful self defense fighting system.
Judo was based on Jujutsu
Kendo was based on Kenjutsu.
Iaido was based on Iaijutsu
Kyudo was based on Kyujutsu
One must understand, that in ancient times during the feudal era or the warring states era, the main purpose of these "kobudo" is to kill their enemies, while "gendai Budo" focus more on self defense.
Aikido was found by Ueshiba sensei based on his spiritual philosophies and beliefs.
Yeah, I know old school sounds kinda more badass, but they can be deadly, so they shouldn't be passed on casually. Real grandmasters of the koryu schools are very rare nowadays, they are mostly low profile and don't take students, only disciples.
That was an awesome video! I always wondered the differences of the two
Etymology suggests that aikido is the way, or basic blueprint, and aikijutsu is the individual customization or what the practicioner does with the blueprint
New subscriber from Australia, love the channel guys!
Thanks for that post. I agree about the 80% confidence and 20% technique too. Love your work and your posts. Hope to pop in and learn from you when I am down South sometime.
+Art Dakota You are always welcome, we run and open Dojo, anyone can train at anytime.
I wish you guys were based near me in Manchester would be great to see your demonstrations live. You should both tour!
I study hapkiyoosool, Korean ajj... It's all about redirection and joint manipulation. There are nerve strikes but that's aiki... Making ukis body react via reflex actions to get them off balance
Nice demo. There isn't aikutsu dojo near where i live, but i'm wondering if a mix of aikido and kyokushin could do the trick
You guys rock, you make me very happy. Thank you.
+Levi Chaffee Good to know you like what we do.
Also I do what you do, most aikido videos today don't even use aikido. but you guys do. so thank you for that Aikidoflow
Wow...answers my question. Currently I'm 1st Kyu, @56 yrs. old female, Military Veteran and looking to promote to Sho Dan in 2019. I'm thinking of taking Aiki-Jujitsu perhaps while learning Laido...
So, could be said that Aikijutsu is more similar to Hapkido (in general terms)? or that would be wrong? .
Good realistic explanation about how age can limit ones ability with aikijutsu
Your technique will change will age ...there are no limitations ...you adapt ! .....
What do you find more practical for self defense on the street? My experience is Aikijujitsu.
Its not just using plain strength,
it is more of using relative strength like using elbow strike powered by body weight as demonstrated versus the head portion there by altering the body's balance to make it fall , with no concern for the injury done to the head (or i.e. vital points)
The means employed by aikido and aikijutsu are the same ie. removes balance, blend, over lead to overextend , evade, redirect blend in the direction, taking the center of gravity , no opponent/enemy-just natural force, etc ;
it differs that aikijutsu IS A FIGHTING TECHNIQUE that deliberately uses the relative strength to really make the direct the defender force hit the vital points of force element (attacker) or delicate joints to point of destruction
Many ( misinformed or aggressive or gullible ) people confuse these two different systems very much, to the point of ridiculing Aikido. Aikido is art to convey principles of war/fighting to obtain peace. Arts are expression or showcase of these ideas throught body movements , just like a DANCE ; while Fighting techniques are specifically used for fighting .
Arts is not the same as Fighting. Because it is an "art" of peace, Aikido is not bound by any rules, unlike , Fighting is bound by rules of the ring or the criminal laws of the state, War is ruled by the geneva/UN convention (international laws-war crimes).
Aikido is a sincere Martial Dance, however just add the destructive and DECEPTIVE elements (feints, boxing punches, muay boran, kicks+knees+ elbows, teeps , juijitsu grappling , judo throws, weapons TO GAIN ADVANTAGE") and it will become Aikijutsu or Fight technique NOT MARTIAL ART.
IF you NEED to be in a fight but NOT REALLY INTENT to destroy or injure or dont want to engage according to fight rules, USE AIKIDO !
Train for ARTS, to understand the principles of war , or LEARN to control the FIGHTING forces (not enemy) to keep peace.
or Train for FIGHTS to become effective and efficient in using force to give destruction, injuries , death and submission of the ENEMY, to make peace.
Train for which purpose and whichever you need or FORCED to do !
Amazing explanation! I prefer Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu than Aikido, 'cause for me, the last one seems, more a dance.
Try yoshinkan aikido))). Daito ryu is the hidden roots of aikido, like me to. Jiu-jitsu technics by Shirakawa Ryuji sensei are excellent.
You are right 💯 you need to turn your aikido into a brutal style to make it work
thanks guys,great vid and vids, from northern Illinois Lake county...keep the vids coming, take care and be safe!!
Studied both and are equally effective just one discipline includes finishing techniques ❤👊❤
Daito-ryu Aikijiujitsu Founder Sokaku Takeda, was O-sensei Morihei Ueshiba and Choi Young Sool's master. To say that it's more force applied in Aikijiujitsu is really biased. I'd rather say that Aikido is a blend and the interpretation of Master Ueshiba. Many of his students established their own styles of Aikido:Yoshinkan (Gozo Shioda), Yoseikan (Minoru Mochizuki), Shodokan (Kenji Tomiki), Shinei Taido (Noriaki Inoue), Iwama Ryu (Morihiro Saito), Shin Shin Toitsu (Koichi Tohei), Wadokai (Roy Suenaka),etc. etc. I have made my own style "Makoto Rei"(Rudy Rodríguez), which blends aikijiujitsu, aikido, wing chun and kali into a single modern combat-effective-oriented style.
there is no proof Choi ever learned Aikijujutsu.
I agree with you if we only consider as "proof" the strict records and certificates issued by sensei Takeda. But those were not the only sources for learning directly from him since Choi was his employee, according to his statements.
A similar case in Tai Chi Chuan: when the Chen Family never accepted other members but relatives ( in Chen Jia Kou), Yang Lu Chan (father of Yang Chen Fu) could learn the Chen Style while watching the class, since he was an employee of the Chen Family. Later He created the Yang Style of Tai Chi Chuan.
Kyokusin's self defense technics are similar as Aikijujutsu. Because I heard Mas Oyama had learned Daito-ryu also
Is aiki-jutsu just ju-jutsu with out kicks and punches? Just asking cuz the teniques were the same as they do in ju-jutsu.. Have read that the Morihei Ueshiba was good at ju-jutsu and created the aikido art in mind to avoid injuries from the defender and attacker what is why the moves are so similar to ju-jutsu but much kinder versions of the moves :3
Agreed with this, however I was trained to not throw them. ie shorten up technique and have them fall at your feet whilst still have an arm connection. Then you can destroy, lock, break etc etc and have control so they dont re attack. All done on feet whilst attacker on ground so if another attacks you can move. No one else there go to ground for choke armbar etc
The way I came to understand the difference between "do" and "jutsu" is similar to the difference between philosophy and science. "Do" translates to "way" if I remember correctly, and when practicing any form of "do", be it judo or aikido, is that there isn't just a focus on the physical techniques, but there is also a lot of philosophy. A "do" art is meant not only as practicing self defence, but it's also a lifestyle. It's meant to be something you commit your whole being and mind into, heck even your life sometimes.
"Jutsu" on the other hand translates to "technique" (Science or art might also be a good ways to translate it), and from what I've come to understand, its focus was less about the philosophy and more about techniques. It's more direct.
Reading between the lines, the explanation he gives isn't all that bad. Aikido is more about flowing with your opponent, redirecting force and not struggling against your opponent. It's what O'sensei Ueshiba preached. It wasn't just a tool for self defence, but it was mainly a tool of self development and betterment. Aikijutsu would be more direct, and more a science. How to most effectively take down your opponent. That is not to say that one is better than the other.
Thoughts?
Agreed. Arts like jujutsu, aikijujutsu, kenjutsu, and such were designed for wartime efforts during the Warring States Periods. With the onset of modernization and transition from wartime to peacetime in Japan, society demanded that martial arts had to also modernize and cater to more peaceable pursuit...otherwise they would lose interest. This includes the heavy transformation karate went through as it migrated to Japan. It adopted judo's gi, developed a sparring system used by kendo, and in Shotokan many of the kata were given Japanese names. These things had to happen in order to appeal to a post-feudal, yet still nationalistic Japan back then.
I have studied Hapkido for decades, and it certainly has that aggression of Daito.
so, I hope this isn't a really silly question, but I'll ask it anyway (arguably because I'm silly).
O'Sensei (Morehei Ueshiba) was pretty expert in Aikijutsu before Aikido came about, the style I train in is Yoshinkan (so founded by Gozo Shioda, formerly a Judoka before training to 10th Dan under O'Sensei).
My question is, how helpful is Aikijutsu in the practice of Aikido and vice versa? are they at all complimentary and the one makes the other easier to grasp? or are they more like quite separate forms?
I guess an analogy might be musical instruments, learning the violin can make the viola easier to learn, but it won't help much with trombone, learning all three might help you become a better musician generally, but there's also the argument that time spent practicing different instruments might be better employed on the mastery of any one.
Reason I ask is because I hear a lot of debate about the effectiveness of Aikido in "real life", personally I'd be just thrilled if I never had to test that out, I do Aikido because I enjoy it and it improves my health and wellbeing, certainly not to maim anyone, that said, if ever I DID have to use a technique, I'd like to know it's going to work.
It seems to me that the two together might help bridge the gap between the practical and the spiritual.
+Some Guy ..As well as a great taste in music..lol!! I think you understand this perfectly. Our view is Aikido is structured as to not damage you are your training partner which means you can train for a lifetime, but Aikijutsu is 'Full" or in Star Wars terms 'Attacking speed' which is real combat, so you cant do that all the time.
Aikidoflow sounds brutal, remind me not to take up Aikijutsu any time soon then :D
Aikido is to preserve life ...aikijujutsu is to destroy !
Hapkido will use both options. more towards Aikijiutsu mind.
I learnt a lot. Loving the videos and the demonstrations.
I've studied Hiriki Ryu Aikido since 1987..... O Sensei taught Atemi.
O Sensei did not name his martial art.
A council voted on the name being Aikido.
The other thought is this: Why add insult to injury if you do a proper throw? People that do not know Ukemi or falling arts fall horribly and bruise and break bones. Falls are awful!!(ask anyone who slipped on ice)
Aikido jujitsu,Kokyu Ryu Aikijitsu,so on and so forth are Aikido core forms. It was often. Quoted that O Sensei had strong legs and would at times kick students....though many kicking techniques aren't taught.....but I digress.
There are similarities in both. Aikijutsu family is about 12,000 moves. Aikido? Roughly 3,000 moves. Yoshinkan Aikido...1500 moves(Simplified) I hope that helps?
Very clear explanation sensei!!
+aikidoflow if I want to have both options, aikido and aiki jujitsu, like you recommend but to mainly use aikido unless I am overwhelmed, do you recommend starting with aikido only then learning aikido jujitsu after, or straight to aikido jujitsu?
Beautiful Art if you apply right in certain situations 👍
And m currently a Taekwondo practitioner but I would love to train under Azu.
So you two are black belts in Karate as well? Can you tell a little bit about your other martial experiences and how they influence your understanding of Aikido and Budo in general?
For my part, I'm a 2. Dan in Shotokan and a 7. Kyu in Aikido right now =)
Sometimes I thing the two have absolutley nothing in common and other times I think, it is all the same, everything is one. Do you feel me?
+FightClubStellingen I do feel you. I believe that you can find elements of Aikido in all martial arts and it is a great art to combine with others.The only other art I have studied is Wing Chun and that wasn't for long. I spent a lot of time as a kid hitting punch bags in my bedroom and practising the Wing Chun style of punching but I am far from knowing anything solid. A lot of my experience has come form real life situations. As a nightclub doorman I have been in a lot of situations which has helped me build up my confidence when it come to a real fight.Azu.
God bless all of you who are part of this video
you’re special you are
Say not , be not.
Either you do or you don’t.
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Ok. Very nice Sensei.
Regards from Brazil...
Thank you for the demonstration Sensei
Aikido is what Judo is to Ju Jitsu. Aiki is the way & Jitsu is it's Martial roots.
Actually, DO means WAY, and jutsu (also spelled jitsu) means technique. One refers to the philosophy behind the art, the other refers purely to the techniques. Hence you have aikijutsu that take the same techniques, but as they were designed back in the days to destroy your opponent (the MARTIAL component of martial arts), and aikido which take the techniques, and transform them and the way they are practiced in order to follow some code of conduct, or philosophy. Hence the very smooth and non agressive techniques that do not work anymore in a real fight because they lack the propre intent and form. They are not used as they were designed for like I explained in another post.
Hi Aikidoflow! I have been curious about the difference between the two. I only practice Aikido. Aikijutsu seems to be like Jiu Jitsu. Thanks for posting.
Hi hood3074. I have never practised Jiu Jitsu but I think it's mainly ground work. As you know in Aikido we try to stay on our feet. Aikijutsu is similar to Aikido but it's more direct. I was once told that Aikijutsu is what the Samurai used on the battle field when they lost their swords. Aikijutsu uses strength, strikes and less circles and it's designed to finish a fight quickly. When we practice Aikido we train in such a way so we don't hurt each other. Next time you train, think about strikes you could add into your techniques and how you could make each technique more explosive and damaging (but without hurting anyone) and that is Aikijutsu.
Thanks Azu.
Dear Aikidoflow, Thanks for the quick and detailed response. The comment about the Samurai was new to me. I appreciate the idea of adding strikes to the techniques. I will take that to mind. Yours hood3074
Aikidoflow Hi, Aikidoflow, how are you? I think (not certain) that you are thinking of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, as it is most all ground work leading to a submission. I think the main difference between Aikijutsu and 'traditional' Jiu Jitsui is the missing of the 'flow' and grabs. That was a very hard question, and I'm not sure it can be answered in a definitive manner. I guess Aikijutsu isn't quite as 'rough'? Great video! '
¿Cuál es la diferencia entre taijutsu y el aikijutsu?
Thank you for the video. This is the second time that I watched it. So thank you for keeping me posted.
I do wonder how Aikido could be used against kicks?
Keep up the good work.
yes , by quickly getting out of the way of the kick, that is already aikido
going to the center (pivot ) side or back of the kicker to unbalance by using body weight on the hips of kicker or lifting the head of the kicker to change the direction versus the direction of the legs, or pulling the neck from the back to make the kicker fall is AIKIDO
kicking the pivot leg is AIKIJUTSU
just standing there to perform a "FAVORITE"/" in my expert opinion the best "aikido techniuqe is NOT AIKIDO.
Aikido is not concern with opinions but the SINCERE assessment of what is in front /reality.
This is what troubles the aikidoist playing by the rules of a fight , forcing opponents to score hits on each other.
Aikido is NOT about INTENTLY SEARCHING OR LOOKING FOR TO GIVE DAMAGING HITS !
Would Aikijutsu work better in mma? I know currently American taught aikido doesn't work as much. I am just curious.
Nice ! Thumbs up ... i,m a Master of Aikijutsu ... wish you all the best with your training... greetings from Germany !!
+andy jones Thanks. I am no master so any tips and advice you can give about what we are doing would be much appreciated. Azu.
A master? Then there would be no thumbs to convey whats here !!!!!
Great explanation ❤
It must depend on the system. I have been teaching Aikijujutsu for 10 years and studying for 20. And if you're using muscular strength, then you're not doing Aikijujutsu. Very soft and fluid movements, just as our kenjutsu is. I have seen some systems that are very different though. By our standards, aikido is uses a very hard energy. Not a criticism, just noting my experiences.
+John Savaria Thank you. One of the reasons we make these videos is to learn from others. We are always learning at Aikidoflow and no one can claim to know everything. Your advise is always welcome as we could learn a lot form someone with your experience.Azu.
The difference is Aikido modified the move from Ancient move of Aikido and AikiJutJitSu is AikiDo + JuDo + JitDo or AikiSu + JutSu + JitSu 3 difference elements in AikiJutJitSu.
What do you think it better. Aikido or Aikijutsu?
Both have their advantages and disadvantages try both abs see which one fits you better O.
+Aikidoflow it was only a question about your opinion. For myself: i've been practising Aikido for one and a half years. Could you make a video about how i can train reaction for selfdefense with Aikido? With partner and alone?
I see what he is saying. But I have seen so many Aikido masters do what he does. Steven Seagal has done that. He does a hard form.
People think you can't punch or kick in Aikido, that isn't true. I have seen Masters dodge their opponent spin around, grab them by neck of shirt to ground and twist their arm. ANYTHING is possible in Aikido.
I would say good video, basecally this is the main difference between those two brother martial art in a sense of technics but the major difference is in the spirit (soul) of the art.Aikido is most likely for harmonizing energy then apply it when it should be apply instead of Aiki-jutsu which have been built to destroy (K.O.) your opponent (in Aikido there is no opponent, just partner)
Hes not equipped to verbally convey the difference.....
What is the difference between the traditional aikido and tenshin aikido? And where does it come from?
Not heard from you for ages. How does akido compare with ninjutsu, jujusu ryu and nimpo.
So, Aikijujitsu is a standing form of Jiu-Jitsu-Not an older style of Aikido. Thanks for the info 👍
Good explanation sir.thank u.
Thanks for explaining this.
Respect to my brother azu good job
+Jeuo Omar Thank you
Hello Coach im still subscribed . your on my top 20 martial Arts channel. That i regularly veiw .Thx
The differnece is :
Aikido = does not work
Dai To Ryu = Works
Beautiful
Trained in Goshin Jutsu karate. Incorporated a lot of Aikijutsu. Potentially quite painful.
thanks for your videos, love them. Tell me if you believe i am mistaken, aikido is the complete philsosphy for living developed by O sensai including sword, meditation and aikijutsu as a way of cultivating oneself into a better person to help build a better society. Aikijutsu is the empty handed tecniques used to express aikido taken from many of the moves in judo, tai chi and juijitsu. And then there is the budo of sword staff and bokken training. thanks and God Bless
Ps aikido works very well when the mind is sharp and spirit open, I have studied Tai chi, Shorin Ryu, WIng Tsun and AIkido. Unfortunatley i have lived in alot of violence being that I live in gang territory and have to deal with being assaulted several times a year. More than any other of my studies, My aikido/Aikijitsu has saved me from being overwhelmed by groups of "people" manytimes. I should be dead and would be if not for this training. Aikido is great for dealing with dynamics of multiple armed attackers when u can stay calm and aware of everything everyone is doing around you. I am very thankfu; for my walk in Aikido
I'm no expert but I really enjoyed your demonstration of the two arts.
Thanks for video.
What is the difference between Aikido and Real Aikido?
As far as I understand "Real Aikido" is just like a brand from a few guys from Serbia for their flavour of Aikido. I don't want to hate on them because it looks ok from what I've seen on RUclips. Just wanted to point out that adding "Real", "Combat", "Concepts" etc. is also becoming a trend for people who want to differentiate themselves. There is all kinds of these things: Panantukan Concepts, Raw Silat, Aikido Combatives, etc.
I like almost all of this as I'm more into reality-based vs. "traditional" martial arts, but beware, this is also or might become a marketing gimmick.
Great stuff.
very smart definition
Does Aikido have a striking aspect? I notice Segal uses some striking in his action movies.
Intent ....pure Aikido has preservation of life in its applications....jujutsu ...is to destroy an enemy attack or destroy your adversary.
you are wrong about age and Dai To Ryu Aiki Jujutsu. the founder Takeda Sokaku was a small man just a little smaller then O'sensei. Mori Hakaru the now Director, Kobayashi Kiyohiro who isDeputy Director and also Manager, Nakayama Yoshio is the Assistant Manager. They are the Takumakai Branch of of Dai To Ryu Aiki Jujutsu from Osaka. you can research your self. I have been doing both Aikido and Dai To Ryu Aiki Jujutsu here in Japan for almost 30 years now. I came here not knowing about either of them. I have trained with so many of the famous Aikido teachers here. I was first Deshi in Aikido. after 7 years I was told to research the roots of Aikido. this lead me to Nakayama sensei who was teaching the same place as me. From the clips I have seen I was like you thinking it was too much power. But do not forget it is where Aikido comes from and Kobayashi senei is a Grand Master in both. yes, they have atemi but so does Aikido. It all depends on your level and teacher if they teach you it. All I ask you here is please be careful what you say. Check your facts first please. As I was told by Osawa sensei of Aikido do not follow blindly know where you come from and where you are going so when the time comes you can find your own way.
Amazing
This is wrong, what style of Aikijujutsu in particular are you talking about?
Hey Azu , How are you?? very nice video, I trainning Aikido in the Brazil( Rio de Janeiro)..Aikijujutsu is more Hard, I like Aikijujutsu, Is good using in the Street..
This is Gonzalo, Karate student. So, are these 2 different martial arts, or two aspects of the same? Ossu.
Very clear for me !!! Jujitsu sensei Rey Figueroa, Regards !!!!
Thanks, it's good to know that what I'm talking about is clear to some people but I'm always learning so any advice you can give would be welcome. Thanks.
reyes figueroa Thank you Reyes
Excelente sensei
Hi sir, first of all ty for share this with other people, and i love how u teach. I have an hones question, i wonder if aikido, not the aikido which u know, but aikido which is taught in any other dojo could be effective against brasilian jiu jitsu or judo, i dont want to bring controversy, its just an honest question. TY sir
BJJ and judo are full on competitive arts and have fully resisting opponents. Aikido does not. 99 times out of 100 the aikido practitioner is gonna get dominated unless he uses non aikido techniques to supplement his ability. A pure aikidoist vs a pure judo or bjj practitioner is in for a world of hurt.
In martial arts you can stop at any point, so in Aikijutsu couldn't you just as easily change the strike to a push and achieve the same effect? Based on your examples the sparring partner still hit the mat.