I already imagine two devils meeting: chain devil: hi mate, how's it... bone devil: I HATE YOU! chain devil: s-sorry, what... bone devil: infernal law prohibits to be sorry! DEMOTED!
I personally like the insectile wings over the skeletal bat wings, I feel it makes the bone devils feel more like a distinct creature than they would if they were just a skeletal fiend undead.
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Ahhh...that pic at the end brings back memories! I had my dad's first edition books, and I think that picture was in the PHB...somewhere around the fighter class, I think?
How does an imprisoned Devil-Prince manage to hold off Set, a Greater God? The hierarchy of the lower planes always confused me and never made much sense. Making Asmodeus a Greater God made things make a little more sense. But how do the Demon Lords and Arch Prince's of hell, who don't have a divine ranking manage to stay in power when overshadowed by the shear power of a Greater god?
They are not totally dissimilar despite not being gods. They exist in much of the same way as gods. And are quite powerful too. What really makes a god is possessing an aspect of reality. Not power. You can have gods that are damn near impotent and demon lords who can one shot gods.
Keep in mind that all gods, primordials, devils, and demons are subject to rules. Even the abyss has rules. At the end of the day, everyone... EVERY LAST BEING IN ALL REALMS. Answers to the whims and desires of the all powerful RNG. JK. It's actually the DM. Give you an example: I'm a DM Asmodeus pissed me off, so I willed him out of existence in my reality. Long story short: it makes no sense and seems all over the place because different DMs, Guides, players, and Authors have different interpretations of characters and events.
Coming from a storyteller perspective, evil has a huge advantage over good. Put simply, by definition, good will always have a list of things that are off limits. Evil has no limits. Thus, good must actually be much more powerful, just to achieve parity.
@@HTMR-de8gz none of that is true, either within the D&D mythos or philosophically. Within the D&D mythos, "evil" simply puts ones self interest as the highest motivation. Unrestricted ambition or lust would be good examples of this among mortal races. As such, making strategic use of things associated with "good" is smart subterfuge. The best liar would be deemed trustworthy by displaying his "honesty" frequently. The best assassin would hide in a non-threatening guise, using displays of compassion to disarm his enemies. There is no rule, here there or anywhere, that an evil entity can't do "nice" things. The reason I don't label them "good" things though, is that they're done with an evil motive for self advancement or pleasure. The reverse is not true though. Engaging in sadistic entertainment is never acceptable to someone who's good. Exploitation and murder are never good. Even if a character feels it necessary to participate in these for a "greater good," it would leave a darkness in him that would tend to draw him toward evil. If that trend continues, you end up with a character who may use a good cause to justify his actions, but it completely evil inside. This is why good HAS to have limits, and evil has NO limits. Evil doesn't risk "becoming good." But good faces a very real risk of "becoming evil."
@@ChristnThms I disagree. Doing Good to to evil would require an ultimately evil goal. An evil individual is then barred from having ultimately selfless goals. They are limited to their own ambitions, their own self accomplishments, you cannot have a "selfless evil" that ambition drives any sense of moderation away as maintaining checks on their ambition would be seen as holding themselves back, weakness. Good can commit evil action: killing for example, and remain good. Their goal is ultimately selfless. Additionally evil offers a temptation to fall, but good offers a chance of redemption. A IRL example: I know a drug addict who murdered 3 people. He did it in cold blood while sober. He was arrested, while awaiting trial and through the trial a local pastor would visit him regularly. He accepted christ after a few months. Confessed to all wrong doing, quit drugs entirely and is still serving his life sentence. Even now in prison he teaches other inmates to take responsibility for their actions, confess them, and live rightly. He "fell" to good. He did so, by his own admission, when he realized he was out of control, he couldn't not kill those men. Even though it would have been smarter and better for him to do so. When he changed, he found that he loved helping people and stayed.
One of my players asked the Levistus to prove he was who he said he was so now I’m having him send a bonedevil + 12 spined devils to meet with the characters 😈😈💀😈😈
With the sheer number of devils and demons in the planes and the harsh terrain, it seems impossible to ever make it out alive(campaign setting). p ssssss. you liessss to me. you promisssesssss video about ussssss(yuan ti) Thanks for your videos. Always good and full of useful information :)
weekends not over yet! I am currently working on the Yuan-ti video, but it will be uploaded a little later than I had planned (for some reason, this one has me all tongue tied!)
Man, bet a bone devil would HATE to be sealed inside a mortal. I love your video, thank you so much! I came here for Haunted One research and was considering a Bone Devil. I was thinking the “when I get free I will kill everyone you love then you” and the torture in dreams sort of thing? What kind of interaction do you think it would have with it’s ‘host’ after a few years though?
@@baronbeat2210 Yeah. I played a tiefling bard with a bone devil sealed inside him. The bone devil started talking to him and appearing to him and that’s what set him out on his adventuring.
The thing about bone devils does it look undead skeleton plus they if they weren’t devils instead demons, they would definitely serve orcus prince of undeath they’re pretty cool though.
I could see a villain making a deal with a bone devil.Everything is going fine and he's about to slaughter the party and then suddenly the bone devil stops because he realizes something about the deal is not favorable.Then he turns to the villains and just says.Yeah no deal sorry I'm going back to hell.The villains like wait what and suddenly he is surrounded by the party.
the thing with devils though, is they are creatures of law, the can't break a deal any more than we can stop breathing, however, the are consumat masters of the loop hole.
That last bit is what I was getting at.. even if things become drastically unfavorable for them, they can not break a deal they have made unless there is a loophole.. it would be basically the same as a very good creature just up and stabbing an innocent person to death.. they don't do it.
@@AJPickett Do you really think a devil would enter into a deal with a mortal if they didn't have an escape clause hidden somewhere? That's just bad deviling, you'll get mocked all up and down the Nine for letting a summoner punk you like that.
Both! I Guess you can think of the layers as their own complete world but also part of the greater whole that is owned by a singular power. A multitude that became singular because of a unifying guiding force.
I wonder if you could have a civil war in hell scenario, where you have a sizable collection of lesser demons and other demonic beings utterly fed up with the hierarchical bureaucratic system, mainly fighting for the prospect of demonic equality. Of course, the good side would very likely have leaders which would try their best to pit the devil and demons of the opposing side against each other. On top of that, the good side might use brutal means to achieve just goals due to the prevailing culture of brutality in the Nine Hells which would be hard to simply shake off and since the demons and devils on the good side would likely be desperate to break the prevailing system. Rebelling against the system would be a nice chaotic deviation from all the Lawful nonsense most demons put up with. It would be as much of an act of morality as it would be an act of retribution and the good side would be determined to bring down justice with an iron fist in order to achieve freedom.
Wouldn't evil souls with such chaotic tendencies become neutral evil fiends? Built-in political stability, keeping the turmoil contained to small, localized loopholes in the contract framework.
Just a correction as for the art used. That was very much Anubis. Seth is more of an ant eater looking creature. Anubis is definitely a much more honorable god than Seth.
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I already imagine two devils meeting:
chain devil: hi mate, how's it...
bone devil: I HATE YOU!
chain devil: s-sorry, what...
bone devil: infernal law prohibits to be sorry! DEMOTED!
“Hello everybody, it’s AJ back again and we’re going *back to The Nine Hells finally.”*
Wait- stop- nooooOooOOOOO
*slowly dragged into the earth*
Bone Devils, or Dire Tooth Faeries
😂😂😂
No, tooth fairies are baby bone devils.
(if that doesn't make sense, you're the dm, make it canon in your world)
@@jonalynmisalang9447eh, they gotta be corrupted like Mogwai first. very gremlinesque. that's the fae for you.
I killed one of these guys once, my guy had ridiculous gear that gave him stone giant strength and stuff like that. Toughest fight Ive ever had.
I personally like the insectile wings over the skeletal bat wings, I feel it makes the bone devils feel more like a distinct creature than they would if they were just a skeletal fiend undead.
Not a bad idea. Make them chitenous but have that form in bone like protrusions. Basically make them the locusts of hell
Who in the name of Asmodeus dislike this masterpiece?
I have my own little hate group :D
Some abyssal fiends, I would suspect. The Blood War reaches even into our plane.
"I have my own little hate group :D"
aka... RUclips mark of success! If you have more people like you than hate you, and the haters have a group... RUclips vlogger done right.
This is entirely true.
Seriously dont know why the dislike button exists, if you dont like it just click off and watch something else.
Every Glabrezu thats ever met a Drow priestess-------"Boned Devil" 😉
"Hello everybody it's AJ back again and we'er gong back to the nines hells finally!"
But I just got back from visiting the inlaws. 0.0;
"Set"
... but that's Anubis?
"They delight in (...) taking people out"
Oh, what a nice fellows, they can enjoy a good date
One of my friends calls these things “bone daddies”. It’s a...surreal experience to use these in-game because of that.
One of my friends calls Asmodeus "Asmodaddy" and we all hate him for the same reasons we like him
my fairy Astral Self monk wants to punch Asmodeus above all other goals.
Please do a video explaining the difference between lesser and greater devils .
Wolfphototech Entertainment well one is greater than the other
@@gargoyles9999 dont forget that the other one is lesser than the greater one
Love your content man! It’s helped me a lot in my homebrew campaign.
It's awesome that there is a cave system down to the core, makes for a great campaign
Bone Devils, the masters of political games and ripping out your kidneys.
"Gimme that nice soul of yours, or I keep you kidney."
more devils! more layers of hell! we neeeeeed it!
Yassssss!!!!!
Ahhh...that pic at the end brings back memories! I had my dad's first edition books, and I think that picture was in the PHB...somewhere around the fighter class, I think?
"So lawful it's chaotic"
I guess it takes a bone devil to know a bone devil
How does an imprisoned Devil-Prince manage to hold off Set, a Greater God? The hierarchy of the lower planes always confused me and never made much sense. Making Asmodeus a Greater God made things make a little more sense. But how do the Demon Lords and Arch Prince's of hell, who don't have a divine ranking manage to stay in power when overshadowed by the shear power of a Greater god?
They are not totally dissimilar despite not being gods. They exist in much of the same way as gods. And are quite powerful too. What really makes a god is possessing an aspect of reality. Not power. You can have gods that are damn near impotent and demon lords who can one shot gods.
Keep in mind that all gods, primordials, devils, and demons are subject to rules. Even the abyss has rules. At the end of the day, everyone... EVERY LAST BEING IN ALL REALMS. Answers to the whims and desires of the all powerful
RNG.
JK. It's actually the DM.
Give you an example: I'm a DM Asmodeus pissed me off, so I willed him out of existence in my reality.
Long story short: it makes no sense and seems all over the place because different DMs, Guides, players, and Authors have different interpretations of characters and events.
Coming from a storyteller perspective, evil has a huge advantage over good. Put simply, by definition, good will always have a list of things that are off limits. Evil has no limits. Thus, good must actually be much more powerful, just to achieve parity.
@@HTMR-de8gz none of that is true, either within the D&D mythos or philosophically. Within the D&D mythos, "evil" simply puts ones self interest as the highest motivation. Unrestricted ambition or lust would be good examples of this among mortal races. As such, making strategic use of things associated with "good" is smart subterfuge. The best liar would be deemed trustworthy by displaying his "honesty" frequently. The best assassin would hide in a non-threatening guise, using displays of compassion to disarm his enemies.
There is no rule, here there or anywhere, that an evil entity can't do "nice" things. The reason I don't label them "good" things though, is that they're done with an evil motive for self advancement or pleasure.
The reverse is not true though. Engaging in sadistic entertainment is never acceptable to someone who's good. Exploitation and murder are never good. Even if a character feels it necessary to participate in these for a "greater good," it would leave a darkness in him that would tend to draw him toward evil. If that trend continues, you end up with a character who may use a good cause to justify his actions, but it completely evil inside.
This is why good HAS to have limits, and evil has NO limits. Evil doesn't risk "becoming good." But good faces a very real risk of "becoming evil."
@@ChristnThms
I disagree. Doing Good to to evil would require an ultimately evil goal.
An evil individual is then barred from having ultimately selfless goals. They are limited to their own ambitions, their own self accomplishments, you cannot have a "selfless evil" that ambition drives any sense of moderation away as maintaining checks on their ambition would be seen as holding themselves back, weakness.
Good can commit evil action: killing for example, and remain good. Their goal is ultimately selfless. Additionally evil offers a temptation to fall, but good offers a chance of redemption.
A IRL example: I know a drug addict who murdered 3 people. He did it in cold blood while sober. He was arrested, while awaiting trial and through the trial a local pastor would visit him regularly. He accepted christ after a few months. Confessed to all wrong doing, quit drugs entirely and is still serving his life sentence. Even now in prison he teaches other inmates to take responsibility for their actions, confess them, and live rightly. He "fell" to good. He did so, by his own admission, when he realized he was out of control, he couldn't not kill those men. Even though it would have been smarter and better for him to do so. When he changed, he found that he loved helping people and stayed.
One of my players asked the Levistus to prove he was who he said he was so now I’m having him send a bonedevil + 12 spined devils to meet with the characters 😈😈💀😈😈
With the sheer number of devils and demons in the planes and the harsh terrain, it seems impossible to ever make it out alive(campaign setting). p ssssss. you liessss to me. you promisssesssss video about ussssss(yuan ti)
Thanks for your videos. Always good and full of useful information :)
weekends not over yet! I am currently working on the Yuan-ti video, but it will be uploaded a little later than I had planned (for some reason, this one has me all tongue tied!)
+AJ Pickett (The Mighty Gluestick) haha! Nice! I have watched all of your videos and always look forward to the new ones :)
Why did you use a picture of Anubis for Set? Just wondering.
Neither one is the actual Anubis or Set.
I need to run a game that takes place in the 9 hells school that preps demons and fiends to go to the mortal realm
Man, bet a bone devil would HATE to be sealed inside a mortal. I love your video, thank you so much!
I came here for Haunted One research and was considering a Bone Devil. I was thinking the “when I get free I will kill everyone you love then you” and the torture in dreams sort of thing?
What kind of interaction do you think it would have with it’s ‘host’ after a few years though?
Sealed in a mortal?
@@baronbeat2210 Yeah. I played a tiefling bard with a bone devil sealed inside him.
The bone devil started talking to him and appearing to him and that’s what set him out on his adventuring.
Please do one on the baatezu!
Well, a bone devil is a Baatezu, all the devils are. I have not covered all of the Baatezu yet though.
will u ever do a player race video or are you all monster all the time? either way keep up the great detailed videos.
Never say never, I might get inspired. Thanks!
Devil info starts at 9:00
The thing about bone devils does it look undead skeleton plus they if they weren’t devils instead demons, they would definitely serve orcus prince of undeath they’re pretty cool though.
*smokes* I haven't heard that name in a long time
I could see a villain making a deal with a bone devil.Everything is going fine and he's about to slaughter the party and then suddenly the bone devil stops because he realizes something about the deal is not favorable.Then he turns to the villains and just says.Yeah no deal sorry I'm going back to hell.The villains like wait what and suddenly he is surrounded by the party.
the thing with devils though, is they are creatures of law, the can't break a deal any more than we can stop breathing, however, the are consumat masters of the loop hole.
That last bit is what I was getting at.. even if things become drastically unfavorable for them, they can not break a deal they have made unless there is a loophole.. it would be basically the same as a very good creature just up and stabbing an innocent person to death.. they don't do it.
Yes, they love loopholes and also following the letter of the law even if it destroys the intent.
@@AJPickett Do you really think a devil would enter into a deal with a mortal if they didn't have an escape clause hidden somewhere? That's just bad deviling, you'll get mocked all up and down the Nine for letting a summoner punk you like that.
just painted the reaper version of this .😃
Ha! Serendipitous :)
+AJ Pickett (The Mighty Gluestick) just posted it on Scotty's Facebook page😊
That throne is amazing!
Sounds like the worst aspects of middle managers of any major tech company.
Are you going to talk about manes demon!
But if devils are always lawful and cannot violate their word how could his consort have an affair? Did he forget to read the fine print?
Obviously whatever agreement between them did not include faithfulness.
mmmmm ..... chili marshes .....sounds delicious.
TMG channel, we visit the most charming locations.
Will you be continuing these, going over and up the ladder of power, as well as the other levels of hell?
A video on Graz'zt!! Please!
Oh good, I was hoping someone would request that :)
yayyyy I just really like Graz'zt. The whole sexual aspect makes for interesting campaings haha
Bone, hehe... Bone
I thought Sekolar was a demon
flaming hornets spear dart traps aka murder hornets
No views? Guess I'm first! Cool vid btw
Yep, first :)
I've been looking for a boss antagonist for my campaign, now I know what, thanks
Ahhh...Whistler’s demon type. A table favorite of Ravenloft’s denizens.
Let's go
Is the 9 Hells a stack of "pancakes" or a complete world? The representation here is confusing....
It is confusing
Both! I Guess you can think of the layers as their own complete world but also part of the greater whole that is owned by a singular power. A multitude that became singular because of a unifying guiding force.
I wonder if you could have a civil war in hell scenario, where you have a sizable collection of lesser demons and other demonic beings utterly fed up with the hierarchical bureaucratic system, mainly fighting for the prospect of demonic equality. Of course, the good side would very likely have leaders which would try their best to pit the devil and demons of the opposing side against each other. On top of that, the good side might use brutal means to achieve just goals due to the prevailing culture of brutality in the Nine Hells which would be hard to simply shake off and since the demons and devils on the good side would likely be desperate to break the prevailing system. Rebelling against the system would be a nice chaotic deviation from all the Lawful nonsense most demons put up with. It would be as much of an act of morality as it would be an act of retribution and the good side would be determined to bring down justice with an iron fist in order to achieve freedom.
Wouldn't evil souls with such chaotic tendencies become neutral evil fiends? Built-in political stability, keeping the turmoil contained to small, localized loopholes in the contract framework.
.....? Set is The God of The Scorching Summer Sun. WTF would he even want an icy plane? That's just bad writing.
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Just a correction as for the art used.
That was very much Anubis. Seth is more of an ant eater looking creature.
Anubis is definitely a much more honorable god than Seth.
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