I want Gunther to be a heel forever. But yeah. He’s changed to giving his opponents props and stopping Kaiser from trash talking. He’s definitely turning face, regardless of WWE’s intent.
I hated when they pushed Cena and Roman. The difference and why I don’t boo and hate on Cody, is because while Cena can talk about “nearly being fired” Cody was fired. While others can talk about crap gimmicks, Cody made crap gimmicks work. He’s the guy nobody wanted to succeed whether it was because of his size, his attitude, he’s Dusty’s son, whatever. He helped create true competition for the company that humiliated him, he left WWE and worked, really worked. Everywhere. TNA champ, ROH champ, he didn’t just tell people how good he was. He went out and did it. He’s not just a pandering cock, he’s genuine. I will boo Cody when/if he ever turns heel… even then I might still love it
@@syko2695so even Fightful lol people just think wrestler means in ring for the most part but IMO I think is Cody Rhodes because he had the best emotional match this year and been having great matches all year
@yes he literally eclipsed Roman vs Rock to point where we had him and Roman main event both nights of wrestlmaina He is the biggest baby face in all of wrestling He is a bigger draw than everybody in AEW but Will had better matches so he a the best that no one is going out their way to watch I’m not saying Will isn’t top 5 but shouldn’t have been over Cody at all
I believe considering how her run as knockout’s champion and arguably being the one to instigate the partnership between TNA and WWE/NXT Jordan Grace deserves a mention
I'm actually kind of excited for worst match of the year, because I'm pretty sure #1 is going to be a landslide, and I have a decent idea which match might take #2, but I genuinely have no idea what any of the rest of the top 10 might be. (EDIT: Spoiler blocker) #1 Jimmy vs Jey; #2 Mercedes Mone vs Britt Baker
I wish Iyo Sky had been higher. She deserves so much more! Thank you for another great summary of wrestlers of the year. Happy holidays to everyone at WT.
Yeah, hi. That was me who asked about your system, lol. I can help you do it easier in the future, if you like! Won't be dirt easy, but it'll be so much less math lol.
@@arnoldvelasquez6473Osprey has had more universally praised matches than anyone this year. Sure some people don’t like him. But those people are in the vast minority.
@@RonnieHoward-nr7gv i don't think those people are as much of a minority as you think lol. Ospreay definitely has had some fantastic matches this year, but the people who treat everything he does as if it's the best thing they've ever seen are deluded.
Swerve & Danielson had my spot of the year. Swerve stomping in Bryan's head infront of his kids followed by Danielson screaming "i love you" as he starts to put Swerve down
I get she missed a lot of the second half of the year, but I don't think anyone in AEW raised their stock in AEW this year like Toni Storm. 2 years ago, she was well liked of course, but not a lot of people's favorite, now she's one of THE main reasons to watch AEW imo. She was so good, Tony Khan was forced to do reliably good booking for its women's division for a while, I can't think of higher praise for a wrestler (half-serious).
If he makes the final few strides with his English and carries a solid program/feud with Don only being his opening act, like Don currently is for Fletcher, Take should shoot right up to the stratosphere. He needs a feud that's HIS, though; maybe against Fletcher?
You know what I just remembered? Among the list of fantastic matches Will Ospreay has had this year, the one we somehow forgot about was the United Empire vs War Dogs pseudo-WarGames match. So much stuff happened this year for Will and for everyone else on this list, that that match somehow was forgotten about.
UE vs War Dogs match was fun but definitely doesn't hold up on rewatch, the match is so damn long and they spend like 10 minutes taking apart the ring at one point
27:47 I think the world has been hurting. Covid, politics, healthcare, bills, and those are just some of the shared issues. Different people have different issues, but I think we all wanted the good guys to win. WM40 is described as Endgame, but I think Return of the Jedi is a better comparison. We are essentially in a reset now
The goal of a good wrestler is to make people miss you if you're gone. If the show you're on is not impacted for the worse by your absence, then you're unlikely to be a good wrestler.
@@antonioreciomatamoros1773 You are right, wrestling should not be an important facto when voting for the best wrestler. Anyone who thinks that wrestlers should be good at wrestling are idiots.
What has happened to Oli? He voted Cody Rhodes #1? Any time it’s an AEW wrestler he has mostly negative takes. What happened to the guy I watched this channel every single day for???
Don’t know if it’s just me, but I’m tired of osprey. Should have a category that’s the character of the year or something like it. For me, osprey wasn’t even top ten. He has good matches, but he finest have any stories I’m interested in. Drew, punk, Cody, swerve, hang man, and several others had my attention a lot more of the time.
35:54 that’s just a blatant lie. The Ospreay chant is baked into his theme. If you’re going to lie, lie about something that isn’t so easily disproven.
Luke I can tell you why TNA haven't put the belt on Joe Hendry, if you rewind this video about a minute before you ask that question a very intelligent bald man muses on how he's WWE bound.... why would you put a belt on someone who's one foot out the door? especially your top belt
The fact Jacob Fatu nor Bronson Reed was mentioned in TLC was Criminal. I Love You Solo and The Bronson Reed vs Braun Strowman feud was awesome plus when he squased rollins
I will never understand the obsession with Osprey. He's... fine, but he's just generic as shit. I've never watched one of his matches then remembered it after the fact for something he did. He just does the same thing as everyone else in the same way. He doesn't have a character or anything of his own going for him, so I just don't know why I should care about him over someone like MJF.
joe hendry was huge even beyond wrestling i had non wrestling fans found it so funny. these people have no clue who Seth rollins is but they know joe hendry
@dreengel1113 you do you. You're entitled to like what you like, you can even go into the comment section of an Internet wrestling channel and argue with the community about it.
Here's where we complain that two meme guys are ahead of the current IWGP World Heavyweight Champion and arguably the best technical wrestler in the world?! Bonkers
I think they just don't watch NJPW now that it's not as hot. 90% of these lists are just WWE and AEW now when there's so many wrestlers in NJPW and CMLL that could be here
Does anyone in this comment section actually like *wrestling*? That's why Will is #1. Also...if you don't like WrestleTalk, why are you here? Don't you have anything better to do?
I think people are overlooking the small nuances that Cody adds to his white meat baby face character to not just be straight across the board white meat baby face. I think the small details using a chair, having depth in his promos where you can tell he could soon easily fall off the ledge and do bad things.
So question i just cant get into will osprey i try but the dude just dosent do it for me it maybe the thick accenst but its hard for me to understand him and i typically dont like small acrobatic guys , is there anything i can listen to help understand the accent and what are some must see matches from before 2023 ( when i started to try and like him) because honestly starting to feel like im dumb for not liking him
The memes of Joe Hendry helped get him over, and honestly? I still love the guy. My friends and I are all believe in Joe Hendry, and are ready to pop big when he's in the rumble
Id argue with jey being top that he should yeah his matches r mid but he has a lot of matches and as u guys said he is over argue most over wrestler now top 5 for sure
No Roxanne Perez here either 🥴😭.. I’m just going to assume this company doesn’t pay attention to NXT anymore which saddens me because some of those wrestlers have been at times better than the main roster gentleman/ladies and they just get overlooked.. NXT has really grown since the terrible 2.0 fiasco. There’s a reason they beat AEW in the ratings beside AEW being “cold”
Perez killed it this year. Great run. Also NXT has the best womens division in the world. It practically runs NXT. Frazer, Perez, Oba would all have spots in my best wrestler list this year.
The thing that sucks about Gunther's world title reign is that the guys at the top of the card on Raw AREN'T the best wrestlers, so he's stuck with Orton and Priest and people like that who he can have "good" matches with, but Gable and Sheamus and Sami and Finn are in the midcard and the best top guys on Raw (Drew, Punk and MAYBE Rollins) have been engaged with each other literally all year so Gunther is just fed scraps
Aw yeah, Luke gets to look at spreadsheet numbers! It’s between Ospreay, Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre for best wrestler of the year. Honourable mentions to Roxanne Perez, Oba Femi, Hangman Page, Toni Storm and Jey Uso
Shout out to the person who put Ethan Page as their #2 😂😂😂
Tempest is going to have a hit list of people who vote for memes on their list after this year.
@@AmbushIntheDark and for good reason 🤣
They have not tried to turn Gunther babyface. Wrestletalk are the only ones I have seen that keep saying that.
They should never turn Gunther babyface. He is a perfect heel and I honestly can’t see him being a great babyface.
@@anthonycairo9202 he is a honourable heel why are people still saying he is turning face😅
He feels pretty tweenery lately, definitely not babyface yet although it seems that might be where they’re headed
He felt like a babyface in the Finn Balor judgment day feud
I want Gunther to be a heel forever. But yeah. He’s changed to giving his opponents props and stopping Kaiser from trash talking. He’s definitely turning face, regardless of WWE’s intent.
I was there for the Danielson Ospreay match, and that was easily the most magical wrestling moment I’ve ever had. Genuinely came close to tears.
it's ospreay innit?
yup
Bruv
Innit
Money on it being number one…again
It’s so so ridiculous
Luke: The current WWE champion, Cody Rhodes
Tempest: The current WWE champion has to be Kevin Owens
They're both correct
This list is bonkers but half the comment secontion have *_no clue_*_ what they're talking about and it's _*_killing_*_ me._ 💀
Its opinion based, no ones is right but your own
Ospreay's chants are baked into his theme Luke. The singer sings "Ospreay Ospreay" when he points at the crowd.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, not just to you guys at wrestletalk but to all the people that are in the chat as well.
Joe Hendry above Toni Storm is not right
Hendry should never been mentioned in the 50 even
Tony Storm herself being on here is also not right either imo
@passose7329 honestly if there is gonna be a female wrestler on here it's Toni or Roxanne
👏🏼👏🏼
I hated when they pushed Cena and Roman. The difference and why I don’t boo and hate on Cody, is because while Cena can talk about “nearly being fired” Cody was fired. While others can talk about crap gimmicks, Cody made crap gimmicks work. He’s the guy nobody wanted to succeed whether it was because of his size, his attitude, he’s Dusty’s son, whatever. He helped create true competition for the company that humiliated him, he left WWE and worked, really worked. Everywhere. TNA champ, ROH champ, he didn’t just tell people how good he was. He went out and did it. He’s not just a pandering cock, he’s genuine. I will boo Cody when/if he ever turns heel… even then I might still love it
Cody wasn't fired, he left on his own.
Very surprised Damian Priest was left off this list.
Huh? The guys best moment was losing to gunther, he's been over pushed and has been under performing
Gee, i wonder if wrestler of the year will be at all similar to the TLC list. lol
Weird choice to release those so close together.
@@syko2695so even Fightful lol people just think wrestler means in ring for the most part but IMO I think is Cody Rhodes because he had the best emotional match this year and been having great matches all year
@yes he literally eclipsed Roman vs Rock to point where we had him and Roman main event both nights of wrestlmaina He is the biggest baby face in all of wrestling He is a bigger draw than everybody in AEW but Will had better matches so he a the best that no one is going out their way to watch I’m not saying Will isn’t top 5 but shouldn’t have been over Cody at all
I believe considering how her run as knockout’s champion and arguably being the one to instigate the partnership between TNA and WWE/NXT Jordan Grace deserves a mention
Has tempest always been this negative?
Yes lol
Living in England will do that to ya.
Dude is a cancer to wrestletalk. He believes his own hype.
Yes lol
YUP
Osprey best enjoy his last number 1 because the real best in the world is back in early January... Kenny Bah Gawd OMEGAAA
I'm actually kind of excited for worst match of the year, because I'm pretty sure #1 is going to be a landslide, and I have a decent idea which match might take #2, but I genuinely have no idea what any of the rest of the top 10 might be.
(EDIT: Spoiler blocker)
#1 Jimmy vs Jey; #2 Mercedes Mone vs Britt Baker
I wish Iyo Sky had been higher. She deserves so much more! Thank you for another great summary of wrestlers of the year. Happy holidays to everyone at WT.
Yeah, hi. That was me who asked about your system, lol. I can help you do it easier in the future, if you like!
Won't be dirt easy, but it'll be so much less math lol.
LUKE: But I like the math 😂
@@WrestleTalkPodMath > Everything
Tempest mad they aren’t talking about ospeary for an hour
Or Okada. Or
I am always captivated by Tempest when he gets into a passionate discussion about wrestling. Especially wrestling excellence. Excellent video guys!
I find it genuinely baffling that most of the names mentioned in this list had a largely mediocre body of work this year. This list is hilarious
It more exposed the audience how tv pushes affect how to chose
Especially Ospreay more than anyone
@@arnoldvelasquez6473Osprey has had more universally praised matches than anyone this year.
Sure some people don’t like him. But those people are in the vast minority.
@@RonnieHoward-nr7gv i don't think those people are as much of a minority as you think lol. Ospreay definitely has had some fantastic matches this year, but the people who treat everything he does as if it's the best thing they've ever seen are deluded.
10-2 was a fun watch. We all knew who no1 was going to be
Swerve & Danielson had my spot of the year. Swerve stomping in Bryan's head infront of his kids followed by Danielson screaming "i love you" as he starts to put Swerve down
Well if you put it in an excel sheet then you don't have to count manually. Just sort and count the row for a particular column
LUKE: I don’t count it manually, I just add it in manually. Then count how many top levels each one got.
Funny to watch Tempest get itchy about people having different opinions from him 😂
I get she missed a lot of the second half of the year, but I don't think anyone in AEW raised their stock in AEW this year like Toni Storm. 2 years ago, she was well liked of course, but not a lot of people's favorite, now she's one of THE main reasons to watch AEW imo. She was so good, Tony Khan was forced to do reliably good booking for its women's division for a while, I can't think of higher praise for a wrestler (half-serious).
Mone would have held the Women’s World instead of the TBS if it wasn’t for the fact that Toni was undeniable in her reign.
My top 5 woulda put ZSJ in the top 10
1. Ospreay
2. Danielson
3. Sabre Jr
4. Swerve
5. McIntyre
Takeshita not placing is criminal. That beautiful man is on the cusp of a breakout.
For a minute I thought I was tripping and dreamed about this same topic being discussed in a TLC episode 🤣 now I realized it's 2 different videos
Zack not being in the top 10 is a crime. ZSJ is top 3 for me this year.
Same I was really surprised
I have to make a small correction: the "OSPREAY OSPREAY" is indeed in the theme song
Just watched the TLC video, I can't wait for this one 😁
No Takeshita that's disappointing
If he makes the final few strides with his English and carries a solid program/feud with Don only being his opening act, like Don currently is for Fletcher, Take should shoot right up to the stratosphere. He needs a feud that's HIS, though; maybe against Fletcher?
WWE has a bad habit of changing characters once they become champion, and making them LESS interesting.
I don’t get it?
I’m with tempest, I need to know who unironically put in Joe Hendry and Jey Uso (especially as WOTY!!!!!)
Probably the worst nominations ever for wrestler of the year
Hello 👋🏻 and Merry Christmas 🎄
So I know its just the way its shot but Tempest looks like a little kid sitting at the adult table.
They needed someone to be the new Pete. 😂
@@dripsoup6639Haha thats a good call.
You know what I just remembered? Among the list of fantastic matches Will Ospreay has had this year, the one we somehow forgot about was the United Empire vs War Dogs pseudo-WarGames match. So much stuff happened this year for Will and for everyone else on this list, that that match somehow was forgotten about.
UE vs War Dogs match was fun but definitely doesn't hold up on rewatch, the match is so damn long and they spend like 10 minutes taking apart the ring at one point
27:47 I think the world has been hurting. Covid, politics, healthcare, bills, and those are just some of the shared issues. Different people have different issues, but I think we all wanted the good guys to win. WM40 is described as Endgame, but I think Return of the Jedi is a better comparison. We are essentially in a reset now
Who in the hell are voting for these? Jey Uso & Joe Jendry in top 10? WTF????
The goal of a good wrestler is to make people miss you if you're gone. If the show you're on is not impacted for the worse by your absence, then you're unlikely to be a good wrestler.
People who don’t care only for matches and workrate
Jey and Hendry had a breakout year, I can respect them being in the top 10
HAVING A GREAT RETURN OR GREAT PROMO DOESNT MATTER IF U CANT HAVE A GREAT MATCH
@@antonioreciomatamoros1773 You are right, wrestling should not be an important facto when voting for the best wrestler. Anyone who thinks that wrestlers should be good at wrestling are idiots.
Ospreay Ospreay is baked into the song.
Ospreay should be in the World Title picture in 2025. No reason not to.
Subinic Mysterio is now what I'm going to call That one dude who might be Eddie's kid
Can’t wait to find out who the Number 2 and Number 3 wrestlers are! We all know who Number 1 is.
What has happened to Oli? He voted Cody Rhodes #1? Any time it’s an AEW wrestler he has mostly negative takes. What happened to the guy I watched this channel every single day for???
Takeshia is definitely a rookie of the year vote from me!!
The correct answer is Jacob Fatu.
roxanne perez criminally underrated
Cody hasn’t had a good feud since winning the title
Journey Fatu was doing the 1 up and yeet at SVN king of the deathmatch
MASHA SLAMOVICH... WREATLER OF THE YEAR
Feel like Sami has been hard done by on a lot of these lists
Cody is #1
Don’t know if it’s just me, but I’m tired of osprey. Should have a category that’s the character of the year or something like it. For me, osprey wasn’t even top ten. He has good matches, but he finest have any stories I’m interested in. Drew, punk, Cody, swerve, hang man, and several others had my attention a lot more of the time.
35:54 that’s just a blatant lie. The Ospreay chant is baked into his theme. If you’re going to lie, lie about something that isn’t so easily disproven.
I like Ethan Page.
He is not wrestler of the year, but he had a good year in NXT.
Luke I can tell you why TNA haven't put the belt on Joe Hendry, if you rewind this video about a minute before you ask that question a very intelligent bald man muses on how he's WWE bound.... why would you put a belt on someone who's one foot out the door? especially your top belt
Toni Storm hands down. I personally don’t think it’s close.
The fact Jacob Fatu nor Bronson Reed was mentioned in TLC was Criminal. I Love You Solo and The Bronson Reed vs Braun Strowman feud was awesome plus when he squased rollins
I will never understand the obsession with Osprey. He's... fine, but he's just generic as shit. I've never watched one of his matches then remembered it after the fact for something he did. He just does the same thing as everyone else in the same way. He doesn't have a character or anything of his own going for him, so I just don't know why I should care about him over someone like MJF.
12:00 can't agree more with Tempest 🤣 where has the guy gone?
joe hendry was huge even beyond wrestling i had non wrestling fans found it so funny. these people have no clue who Seth rollins is but they know joe hendry
Turns out if you have a moty match weekly you get to be wrestler of the year. People like in ring wrestling
"people like" no, only the iwc neckbeard bubble does
@dreengel1113 you do you. You're entitled to like what you like, you can even go into the comment section of an Internet wrestling channel and argue with the community about it.
@@dreengel1113 exactly
Here's where we complain that two meme guys are ahead of the current IWGP World Heavyweight Champion and arguably the best technical wrestler in the world?! Bonkers
No darby allen is crazy
Tempest uses the phrase Global Superstar a tad to liberally
LIKE WWE CALLING “ALL” THEIR WRESTLERS….”SUPERSTARS”???
I don't get the whole joe hendry thing....
You don't believe in Joe Hendry CLAP CLAP
@@TriViuM2k22I'll have to watch more tna, I'll give him a shot....
9:05 #5 coming up ....if its Dom I'll laugh
I think he's tanking Gunther so Cody stays over, instead of just having the best of both worlds
I'd be intrigued as to how NJPW stars have fallen off the top 10/rankings in general over the years...
I think they just don't watch NJPW now that it's not as hot. 90% of these lists are just WWE and AEW now when there's so many wrestlers in NJPW and CMLL that could be here
@@drewgoff652 DEFINITELY
I am not sure I have ever heard any version of Superman quip
Does anyone in this comment section actually like *wrestling*? That's why Will is #1. Also...if you don't like WrestleTalk, why are you here? Don't you have anything better to do?
I don't disagree with Joe Hendry being in the top 10, he got that over while not in AEW or WWE is nothing short of amazing
I think people are overlooking the small nuances that Cody adds to his white meat baby face character to not just be straight across the board white meat baby face. I think the small details using a chair, having depth in his promos where you can tell he could soon easily fall off the ledge and do bad things.
So question i just cant get into will osprey i try but the dude just dosent do it for me it maybe the thick accenst but its hard for me to understand him and i typically dont like small acrobatic guys , is there anything i can listen to help understand the accent and what are some must see matches from before 2023 ( when i started to try and like him) because honestly starting to feel like im dumb for not liking him
You dont have to like him. Im the exact same with Cody Rhodes and roman reigns. reasonable minds can differ.
The memes of Joe Hendry helped get him over, and honestly? I still love the guy. My friends and I are all believe in Joe Hendry, and are ready to pop big when he's in the rumble
Same here. He needs to be in the Rumble, that will be an all timer moment in wrestling
I agree with the top 5, but that back half is😬 Anyone who voted for Hendry needs to have their voting rights stripped.
SAY HIS NAME AND HE APPEARS
CM Punk is the wrestler I want to like, but can’t, while Cody Rhodes is the wrestler I want to hate, but just can’t.
I personally don't really feel Joe Hendry.
No Hangman is crazy
I got
McIntyre
Swerve
Jey Uso
Gunther
Ospreay
LA Knight
Cody
Idc
Id argue with jey being top that he should yeah his matches r mid but he has a lot of matches and as u guys said he is over argue most over wrestler now top 5 for sure
Ospreay 5 star year indeed
No Roxanne Perez here either 🥴😭.. I’m just going to assume this company doesn’t pay attention to NXT anymore which saddens me because some of those wrestlers have been at times better than the main roster gentleman/ladies and they just get overlooked.. NXT has really grown since the terrible 2.0 fiasco. There’s a reason they beat AEW in the ratings beside AEW being “cold”
Perez killed it this year. Great run. Also NXT has the best womens division in the world. It practically runs NXT.
Frazer, Perez, Oba would all have spots in my best wrestler list this year.
Best Wrestler of the Year, Not Most Over Jey Uso & Joe Hendry are NOT QUALIFIED.
Havent seen it yet but I bet Luke picked Jeff Jarrett
Did you watch the TLC video? Based on that you'll probably be wrong 😅
@ no I didn't see they released one
@@SupportEachOther4ever well he didn't pick Jarrett in TLC
The thing that sucks about Gunther's world title reign is that the guys at the top of the card on Raw AREN'T the best wrestlers, so he's stuck with Orton and Priest and people like that who he can have "good" matches with, but Gable and Sheamus and Sami and Finn are in the midcard and the best top guys on Raw (Drew, Punk and MAYBE Rollins) have been engaged with each other literally all year so Gunther is just fed scraps
I stopped watching after Joe Hendry getting two top level nominations. What in the absolute Whatculture is this list?
Also the fans are starting to turn on Cody as well
Watch for the shoe... Oof Toni storm needed to be higher. Especially over jey uce and j hendry.
SAY HIS NAME AND HE APPEARS!!!!
28:12 Thank you Tempest for understanding me. I just want to cheer a good guy sometimes. Cody does that for me and then some.
Ospreay though innit?
Steven Flowe has replaced Joe Hendry
Where was my tribal chief?
Solo?
gone for most of the year
Aw yeah, Luke gets to look at spreadsheet numbers!
It’s between Ospreay, Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre for best wrestler of the year. Honourable mentions to Roxanne Perez, Oba Femi, Hangman Page, Toni Storm and Jey Uso
Dirty Dom is in my top ten
Where was Mox?