Always a pleasure to see DK and Max driving in Tsukuba. Congratulations for the 2 companies still pushing for the best in tuning when in these days every one looks for CO2 emissions.
When westerns rookies are moaning about the 3.0L 6-cyl not having enough power (380hp) while these Japanese pro drivers are having fun with just 300hp 2.0L 4-cyl version
What I love about DK is hes not all about max power its all about balance and feel. All you ever hear from Americans is its not enough power. its to slow. It's all about the right roads. America is to straight. Keep to your over power land yachts.
That's the thing about the Japanese. Balance is everything. Feeding is important too. You don't just throw mods to a car to make it fast. If it feels shit, then the car is shit no matter how much the power.
Awesome! Great comparo between both versions of the Toyota GR Supra. in mild tuning state. Classic Best motoring! ** Thank u soooo much for the English Subtitles** 😁👍
B58 engines are just too good, they’re like Coyote or LS1 of the German engine so it’s gonna be very popular for future tuners. People are raving about RB and 2JZ but those parts are too expansive and hard to find and not really cost effective.
Hmm the power numbers shown are much lower than the ones given in the press release, at least in the USA. Is there a difference in power between the two markets or is it because of the dynos they used giving different numbers? The 2 liter version is still not out in the USA for us to know the exact power it makes. Great video regardless!
Interesting to see how DK agrees that the rear steps out too uncontrolled, just like Robert Mitchell, while others like Jackie Ding say that that is not at all an issue they've experienced.
Jackie Ding crashed his 1st Supra due to instability out of a turn. Which after watching his very first shakedown on track with that Supra, he had a similar issue but caught it faster.
@@MaddNomad1015 I've always remembered watching that vid and seeing him put 2 tires on the grass & just understeered into the tire barrier. Guess I'll rewatch it to refresh my memory.
@@izzdin6228 he does catch the side which puts him into the wall, but before he was out of the turn he was fighting the rear last second on exit before his tires went off track, understeering into the barrier. If that makes sense. In his first shakedown with that Supra he had a similar right turn he took where it got unstable and he almost hit the concrete barrier, but he had a little more room so he corrected or he was quicker to correct. I love his videos because you can see him progress with the car, I just think it’s a result of the car’s short wheelbase.
@@MaddNomad1015 yeah short wheelbase cars are quite spiky or so I've read. Like the older gen F1 cars that look like a handful from tv due to their shorter wheelbase compared to the current longboi cars.
In my opinion.. I think BMW did this rear Bumpsteer issue on purpose on the GR Supra so it wont out perform their BMW Motorsport cars on track. This Rear - Bumpsteer can be fix. The BMW Supra. ( I mean.. Toyota Supra 😜!) showing lots of potential Gentlemen.
these Japanese pro race driver proved that those so-called "western car enthusiast" are so wrong. these guys can rock on even with 2 litres 4 cylinders while those westerners can't
Hey would a 2008 Lexus IS F be a bad mountain car? Or should I just pick up a s2000 and throw a few more dollars at it in parts and call it a day. Or a 350-370z maybe just a six speed IS 250. I want all the cars. I got a real problem
ISF is a beast but don't think it's agile enough for the mountains plus the earlier models have peaky handling they did a hot version with a stock ISF. S2000 modded is the maou ofc but if you need luxury comfy while also sporty the ISF or IS250/350 are your best choice
IIRC, that’s what this channel does. At least all the new production stuff is member exclusive before going public. I don’t know about the archive stuff.
NA1/NA2's have been used for TA, the record holder at Buttonwillow Raceway in the US in the CW13 configuration was a NSX for a while (not stock, turbo car with lot's of aero). Once the car stops looking like a NSX it becomes completely pointless. Besides the NA1/NA2 NSX's are cars from 20-30 years ago, expensive to fix and get parts for (given that many parts have been discontinued). Not an ideal choice if cheaper and better options are available.
Wait so your telling me the Rev RZ is 500 lbs heavier than the Rev SZ????. What is the big difference, i thought they said earlier the SZ was only 100kg lighter?
you know i went this same concept with my vitz but i bought the 3 door top of the line grade because i wanted the power windows and locks which were less prone to breaking because it was a luxury edition :P
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Always a pleasure to see DK and Max driving in Tsukuba. Congratulations for the 2 companies still pushing for the best in tuning when in these days every one looks for CO2 emissions.
スープラに関しちゃ、販売員っぽくなる織戸さんww
Orido-san was on it! Not sure how serious their laps were, but breaking into the 1:02’s is fast. Especially in the wet! Thanks for the English subs!
Yeah I thought that was very impressive tbh
ひたすらGRスープラって訂正する織戸さん可愛すぎ
I like how the show style, music, font, announcements are still very much 90s
90s is best
Thank you for your service ❤️ 🖖
スープラSZを購入してすぐECUチューニングしました。185psから327ps、トルク35kgmから48kgmまで向上しました。乗り味は完全に別物になります。
@ぐぐるたろう 1ヶ月前のコメントに返答するのも何ですが、セッティング次第という返答がベストではないでしょうか。当然ですが、メーカーが規定している以上のパワーを出すのでノーリスクというわけではありません。ですが、夏や冬など季節ごとにセッティングを変えて乗っている方もいます。なので、セッティング次第では壊れる可能性は上がりますし、壊れなくても不調になったりすることもあります。長くはなりましたが、結局はやり過ぎるとダメという事ですかね。
僕的には3リッターのスープラにHKSさんの車高調入れてサーキット走りましたがそれだけでも十分楽しかったです
Thank u for eng sub
ウェットで２秒はあたおか(誉め言葉)
The Revolution Supra did 1:02 in wet condition. That's impressive really.
Thanks for English subtitles!!!!!!!
Thank you for the English Subtitles
When westerns rookies are moaning about the 3.0L 6-cyl not having enough power (380hp) while these Japanese pro drivers are having fun with just 300hp 2.0L 4-cyl version
im asian and this car is just shitjunk bmw rebadge with fake vents lol
@@religionofpeace3244 what car doesn’t have fake vents nowadays?
Well they only care about power
While Japanese looking for fun experience
@@religionofpeace3244 most cars nowadays have fake stuff.
@@Ant_Man211 why is that relevant? Just because many cars have fake vents does not mean every car has to have one. It is an idiotic styling trend.
1番下のグレード(買えない)
Wow max compared the Rev SZ to GT300 cars, which is really quite impressive and nice to see the potential of the 2.0L car maximized.
What I love about DK is hes not all about max power its all about balance and feel. All you ever hear from Americans is its not enough power. its to slow. It's all about the right roads. America is to straight. Keep to your over power land yachts.
I agree power isn't everything
And who needs 500hp if you can have some glorious naturally aspirated induction sound!
All our roads are straight and when you can buy a used s550 mustang with 460 hp for under 10k, of course we're gonna complain about low power.
But European performance cars are really powerful too and they handle really well.
That's the thing about the Japanese. Balance is everything. Feeding is important too. You don't just throw mods to a car to make it fast. If it feels shit, then the car is shit no matter how much the power.
ｸﾞﾝｻｲで2リッターばかり褒められてたから、最後に土屋さんが3リッター褒めた時めっちゃ嬉しそうだった
最初の左の黒いやつかっこよ
Awesome! Great comparo between both versions of the Toyota GR Supra. in mild tuning state. Classic Best motoring!
** Thank u soooo much for the English Subtitles** 😁👍
Best people to review any car. Love from 🇧🇩
Revolutionめっちゃいい音してるw
nice finally eng subbed
みんな言いたいことわかるけどさ、この状況で色んな反対とか乗り越えてスープラ復活させてくれたことにまず感謝じゃない？
なんとか復活させるためにBMWとも手を組んだんだろうし、みんなが買えばこの次の代のスープラは独自開発で出てくるよ、ほぼ100で
素晴らしい価値観です。GRスープラは憧れのクルマを買うモチベーションに繋がっています！
Thank you very much for subtitling everything by hand!
スープラのデザインわりと評判悪いのね・・・
実物見ると意外とワイドローで筋骨隆々なボディしててめっちゃかっこいいと思ってた・・・
汎用性高いエンジンなんですね〜
B58 engines are just too good, they’re like Coyote or LS1 of the German engine so it’s gonna be very popular for future tuners. People are raving about RB and 2JZ but those parts are too expansive and hard to find and not really cost effective.
DKと織戸さんの乗り方とスープラに対する印象の差が面白い
あと直6の方が音好き
ドリキンが｢乗りやすい〜♪｣って言ってハンドルペチペチするのかわいい
Thank you so much for English subtitles ♥️👏🏻
DK is the best racer, even at his old age he's still doing a time attack, what a legend !
ウェットで2秒代ならドライで０秒いきそう
一分台!
90スープラめっちゃ好きだけど都内じゃ全然見かけないな
九州民ですが割と見かけますね。
都内だともっと上の価格層の車を買うのでしょうか？
札幌はたまーーに見ます
たまにはベストモータリングも見たいな。ノーマルカーの比較
2:47 ！？！？
見た目好きだなぁ
80より個人的に好き
SZだってGRスープラはGRスープラ
やっぱ織戸さん速いな
It will be cool to translate more old best motoring
Thanks for the english subtitles ^_^
😂
Every time the presenter says “(drivers name )impression” I fall more and more in endearment of this channel
The 3.0 Supra is definitely close to Supercar levels once it has been lightly tuned. Or at the very least, Late 00/Early 201x level Supercars anyways.
Love this channel!
2021年モデルを待っています〜
4 기통 수프라 SZ는 6 실린더보다 낫다.
Hmm the power numbers shown are much lower than the ones given in the press release, at least in the USA. Is there a difference in power between the two markets or is it because of the dynos they used giving different numbers? The 2 liter version is still not out in the USA for us to know the exact power it makes. Great video regardless!
BuzzedLightBeer BMW B48 engine has 2 different power options 197 and 258 hp for supra.
ゲームでも出てほしいですね👍️😃(笑) 山内さーん(笑)
Great job with the tuning!
車の面白さは色々あれど、アクセル踏んだ時にグッとシートに押し付けられる加速力・トルク感ってのは格別だと思う
スポーツカーではないけれど、今乗っている Mazda6 ディーゼルも 高速合流するとき、MTの3速で引っ張るとあっという間に40 → 100km/hくらいまで加速するからなかなか面白い
Would love English subtitles
マッドブラックカッコいい...
マットブラック
DK is very right, second hand SZ is the best solution for tuning base car. It is only the beginning of amazing cars we will see in upcoming years.
レヴォリューションのSZはGTウイングもスワンネックタイプだし空力性能もBOSSより相当レベルが高いね
ATS/LSDのイニシャルトルク40キロ？ 全く想像が出来ないLSDなのね。
やっぱりスープラのインプレにはオリドさん☺️
I wonder how they would react to Jackie Ding’s TA90 Supra.
Should GR Supra need more tuning potential as well as Hachi-Roku?
Yes it is.
It has a lot of potential. Toyota made it that way.
@@CLA82529 oh yeah. Next up is new GR Hachi-Roku
土屋さん、年齢を重ねられても相変わらずかっこいいです、。どうかいつまでもお元気で！by東信ドライバー
80スープラって今だと評価高いけど、当時はそこまでじゃなかったですよね
90はどのグレードも魅力がありますね
2Lはチューニング楽しそうだし、3Lは音がめっちゃいい
490万で197馬力はショボすぎw
@@nu2169 馬力厨かよ
@@nu2169 チューニングすりゃ400いく。
比較対象がRや７やエボやインプだったからなぁ
素直な旋回性能は結構褒められてたイメージ
買った人はあのコックピットのインテリアが好きな人多かったですね、私も好きでした
11:38
寺岡さんかな、、
音はRZがいいねー
Interesting to see how DK agrees that the rear steps out too uncontrolled, just like Robert Mitchell, while others like Jackie Ding say that that is not at all an issue they've experienced.
Jackie Ding crashed his 1st Supra due to instability out of a turn. Which after watching his very first shakedown on track with that Supra, he had a similar issue but caught it faster.
@@MaddNomad1015 I've always remembered watching that vid and seeing him put 2 tires on the grass & just understeered into the tire barrier. Guess I'll rewatch it to refresh my memory.
@@izzdin6228 he does catch the side which puts him into the wall, but before he was out of the turn he was fighting the rear last second on exit before his tires went off track, understeering into the barrier. If that makes sense. In his first shakedown with that Supra he had a similar right turn he took where it got unstable and he almost hit the concrete barrier, but he had a little more room so he corrected or he was quicker to correct. I love his videos because you can see him progress with the car, I just think it’s a result of the car’s short wheelbase.
@@MaddNomad1015 yeah short wheelbase cars are quite spiky or so I've read. Like the older gen F1 cars that look like a handful from tv due to their shorter wheelbase compared to the current longboi cars.
In my opinion.. I think BMW did this rear Bumpsteer issue on purpose on the GR Supra so it wont out perform their BMW Motorsport cars on track.
This Rear - Bumpsteer can be fix. The BMW Supra. ( I mean.. Toyota Supra 😜!) showing lots of potential Gentlemen.
revolution made the ft86 sounds proper na good.
わざわざスープラを貶すようなコメントは誰も求めてないからいらないよね！
織戸さんも楽しいって言ってるし！
一番低いグレードは１６２ｐｓかぁ。やっぱ今の時代の車だし３００ｐｓぐらいはほしいなぁ。いくらバランスが良くても流石に寂しいでしょう。軽量が最高のチューニングといってもそこを補えるのが馬力な感じがします。値段もそこそこするんだしね。一から自分で仕上げたい人向けかな。
these Japanese pro race driver proved that those so-called "western car enthusiast" are so wrong. these guys can rock on even with 2 litres 4 cylinders while those westerners can't
There is no "right" or "wrong" on something so subjective. Logic fail on your side.
@@sepg5084 "logic fail" you sound so smart.
@@sepg5084 oh, smartass
what do you expect from west？ power.
Supras, my favorite sports cars legend, they have these made these custom Supras.
チューニングスープラとチューニングZ4も見てみたい。
StudieさんやASSIST さん、TECH-MさんがZ4を導入してほしいですね。
Hey would a 2008 Lexus IS F be a bad mountain car? Or should I just pick up a s2000 and throw a few more dollars at it in parts and call it a day. Or a 350-370z maybe just a six speed IS 250. I want all the cars. I got a real problem
ISF is a beast but don't think it's agile enough for the mountains plus the earlier models have peaky handling they did a hot version with a stock ISF. S2000 modded is the maou ofc but if you need luxury comfy while also sporty the ISF or IS250/350 are your best choice
あまり踏んでないように思えたけどタイム見て驚き
ときどきホットバージョンDVDで発売してください(^^ゞやっぱりDVDで買いたいです
RZの方がボンネットとウイングいりそうだけどなぁ
うわぁ…なんかこのバブリングの音ゴルフのgtiを思い出すなぁ…。
もう一度ゴルフ乗りたいなぁ。
Was this member exclusive? I see comments from 11 months ago
IIRC, that’s what this channel does. At least all the new production stuff is member exclusive before going public. I don’t know about the archive stuff.
yup, it was
レボリューション号やるやん
９０じゃだめなのは草
織戸さん、トヨタにべったりやなぁ。褒め過ぎ。
What the amazing car and driving!!!
It's an older gen BMW .... Why is it so amazing? Because they changed badges from BMW to Toyota ?
@@kayo1265 because it's a good car with great aftermarket potential?
@@kayo1265 bmw made amazing car, win more championship than toyota ever had
I'm really Hype for 400hp MAOU SZ in the future to break the record maybe.
Thank you for the English subs! How about M2 CS and C8 Corvette @ Gunsai???
レボリューションさんのＳＺいいなー
シャーシもディーラーで買えるのと同じだったら欲しい
Damn, DK flexing that watch
Maybe if you guys could talk to Toyota to bring a 6MT to this supra that'd be great lol
Spec c impreza in dry did 104.43.
Supra did 103 in damp
スープラマイスターオリダーならこだわりがあるかもね。
レボリューションスープラのタイヤチューブ、キャップ付いてなくない？
軽量化？
MTがないのがなぁ…
MT出たよ。買えよ。
MT出てるけど買わないんだろうなぁ…
These guys are getting old, but cool to see them still.
I’ll stick with my MKIV’s for now. More beautiful and pure Japanese engineering
The music in these videos make me feel like I'm playing Sonic DX or some shit lol
I wonder why the honda nsx mk1 isn't such a popular time attack car as i think it would....
Check out RSFuture's time attack NSX, super quick but its a K-swapped model. But the swap made it lighter & better service wise.
NA1/NA2's have been used for TA, the record holder at Buttonwillow Raceway in the US in the CW13 configuration was a NSX for a while (not stock, turbo car with lot's of aero). Once the car stops looking like a NSX it becomes completely pointless. Besides the NA1/NA2 NSX's are cars from 20-30 years ago, expensive to fix and get parts for (given that many parts have been discontinued). Not an ideal choice if cheaper and better options are available.
Wait so your telling me the Rev RZ is 500 lbs heavier than the Rev SZ????. What is the big difference, i thought they said earlier the SZ was only 100kg lighter?
They took another 100kg of with weight reduction. The car is 2900lbs
I thought the rz was the 3.0 liter version
rz 3l
sz 2l
Revolution took out an extra 100kg on their SZ, so the weight difference is much bigger.
supra 🙌❤️❤️❤️
ミニのエンジンなのか！面白いなぁ
new86とかGRスープラのデザイン評判悪いけど、自分は結構カッコイイと思うけどな...
デザインは僕は好きです！
ただATのみでエンジンがBMWってところがマイナスポイントかな。。
これに高い金出すなら新型86をフルカスタムの方がいいかなぁ。。
スープラは最初ナンバーつけてないやつ見たときアルファロメオみたいになっててえ…ってなったけど、ナンバー付けたらそこが見えなくなったし普通にかっこいいと思うw
@@秀和シュウト 86もエンジンはスバル製でしょ…
僕も両方カッコいいと思います。
@@user-ii1md5py5f あれは共同開発で作ってるし、どちらも日本の会社だから…ねぇ？
低グレードでも全然いいね欲しい
低グレード買ってチューニング費に当てるのがいいね
@Aqut auto produce 보스 SZ 실린더4개, 왜 SZ?
@@raku0828 チューニングって結構高いからね！！SZで買ってチューニングして走るのが、維持費とコスパ的に利にかなってる
レボリューションのSZの評価が良いのは最新仕様のカーボンLSDの貢献が大きいかもね
すごいなぁレボリューション
There are no footcams now? cost cutting:(
both cars don't come with manual gearbox so why bother with the footcams, it's unnecessary.
A bit pointless since those cars have automatic gearboxes
you know i went this same concept with my vitz but i bought the 3 door top of the line grade because i wanted the power windows and locks which were less prone to breaking because it was a luxury edition :P
欲を言えば
MT枠で新型Ｚ
AT枠で新型スープラ
所有したい
mtで90欲しい！