Our microwave caught fire because a family member tried to reheat fast food that, unbeknownst to her, was wrapped in foil from the restaurant. She just put the entire bag in the microwave. It took no time for the fire to start. I quickly grabbed the First Alert Tundra spray. I had never used it before. It put out the fire in seconds. Yes, it left a mess but I still have my house and our lives. Worth the $25 for 2 for sure.
You also should never have to turn your body 180* from the stove or oven in order to retrieve it. One should not take their eyes off a fire, intentionally made or otherwise.
@@sl4983 id recommend that you store it near a possible entrance/exit to the kitchen So if in the case the fire extinguisher doesn't work or the fire spread too fast to do anything against it you can grab it and immediately be near the exit if necessary
Can confirm. Ten months ago my neighbors had a stove fire. My house was damaged, everything I owned had to be replaced due to smoke damage. My house had to be stripped down and gutted to the frame. Firemen smashed out my windows, ripped down my walls and ceilings. I’m set to move back into my house in a few weeks. Sure wish they’d have had a $20 extinguisher
It kind of bothered me how they seemed to give the Amerex extinguisher a "downside" because of the large "fume cloud". I am a FF here in Arizona and used nothing but Amerex extinguishers in my academy to practice small fire mitigation and they work flawlessly if used properly. We put out a large 10x10 diesel fuel pan fire using a couple of sweeps back and forth, PASS method. One 10 pound canister would last through 5 or 6 students rotating using it before we had to get a fresh one. I would rather have that large plume of "fume" than have the fire continue burning. Just my thoughts and experiences.
Your an experience FF we are not. So we need something that a dummy can operate in seconds not an hour after reading the instructions. The company that I work for I'm in the ERT and we practice with fire extinguishers. I personally have the KIDDE one at home but at work we use a different brand and different type like halon fire extinguisher and carbon dioxide.
I’m no fire fighter, but have put out five fires during my 60 years and the bigger the fume cloud the better. You want to cover everything that on fire or might be about to catch fire. It’s going to be a mess, but better to knock the fire down quick.
Yes you have to leave the blanket in place for 20 minutes but they work well I have used them a number of times see this video ruclips.net/video/48A4ZSHg3tA/видео.html
Kidde now also makes a specific white kitchen extinguisher. The UL previously had no standards for these, but does now (K). The bottle is the same, but the nozzle makes a wider spray at less pressure, so it will not blowing burning oils around to spread fires. Same price, too. Very much worth looking at.
4:25 if you read the instructions for that kind of extinguisher, it's a 1-time use can, and you have to use the entire can in 1 go, otherwise you will not keep the flames from reigniting. The mess it creates is irrelevant if the objective is to stop the fire.
Thanks for the update, I've had a Kidde on the recall list in my home for 10 years. I submitted the recall online and Kidde had a new extinguisher to me in a week, plus included packaging and return label for the faulty model.
i love how you do what you do. no talking down to the audience or coworker. method and process clearly explained. clear and coherent, no rambling but friendly. thank you.
Once I had put some cooking oil in a iron skillet, turned the stove on and waited for it to heat up. While I was waiting, I stepped into the living room to watch TV, which was only a few steps away, being it was a condo. I guess I stood there too long, next thing I smelled smoke? When I turned to look, the flames were nearly touching the ceiling?! I ran back into the kitchen, assessed what I needed to do... I grabbed a big ceramic dinner plate and covered the skillet. That of course did the job quite quickly. Another fire solution would've been "Baking Soda."
Being a former fire extinguisher sales/service rep.. I can tell you that the Kidde brand is not the best choice in my opinion, they have a history of losing pressure over time. A better choice would be Badger and Sentry brands. Kiddie's are one time use and the other brands can be tested and refilled and lasts much longer.
Brian Kaminski Video info has been updated to include the Kidde recall information on the plastic handle models. Give them the model and serial numbers and the send a replacement for each one you report and give info on how to return the recalled unit. All the Kidde models we have in the home and garage are refillable. Spend less than $10 and you get your money's worth in any brand.
This is an unfortunate video, it recommends the unreliable Kidde with plastic valve which has been recalled numerous times over the years, latest in 2017. Then after that was recalled it recommends the Tundra spray can which meets no UL standards, has no UL fire rating and is not legal for home fire protection in jurisdictions that require a home fire extinguisher. Even Consumer Reports rated the Tundra "Don't Buy" due to reliability problems. A cheap fire extinguisher is like a cheap parachute, too late to pay more when you need it to work, and it fails. Go to a fire equipment dealer and buy a metal valve Amerex or another reputable brand, with proper maintenance it will protect you for the rest of your life.
Those Amerex type fire extinguishers are perfect for people with experience. But I want something light and easy to use. Just point and spray. Like a can of WD-40. And I want it light enough so I can keep one in my camper-van. And make it cheap so everybody buys it. 15 seconds to start use a fire extinguisher is a fail, even if it can kill the fire in a second.
@@DeontjieWorked fine for my first experience using what Retired Fed LEO has recommended. It could not have taken longer than 2 seconds for me to pull the pin, aim, and squeeze the lever. My working knowledge was reading instructions and watching a training video prior. No experience. BTW, it was a ABC 4 lb model and was used on a car engine fire in its incipient stage... It appeared to me that oil was dripping on the ground, and the fire kept reigniting at that point. It didn't take long for the extinguisher to go empty. It took about another 5 minutes for the fire truck to arrive. Where I couldn't have done anything even if I wanted to. But it didn't spread beyond its ignition source in that time. Drawing from my only experience, even a 4 lb size may not be adequate for a camper-van. I might consider two, something appropriate for the cooking area, and another for the vehicle, and both being capable to supplement one another. Light and easy is subjective, but all I remember is one moment it was in my hands and the next I was fighting fire, w/ no memory of pulling the pin or any fuss. Driver was still in the vehicle and adrenaline may have been involved.
A few years ago my father accidentally set our stove on fire after over-filling a pot of frying oil causing it to splash over and catch on the electric coils. In a matter of seconds, it made its way into the oven vent and caught there too as the oven was also on. Thankfully we had our extinguisher and were able to quickly put it out before calling the fire department to check and make sure that there was nothing hiding behind the stove or in the wall behind it. I can't imagine what we would have done without it and while we had to get a new oven it was well past its lifespan anyway.
Omg. As an engineer, I can’t believe the mistakes in this video. First, the hanging auto extinguisher didn’t work because the fire simply wasn’t big enough. It did a good job once the fire was close. This lady had long exposed HAIR during the testing and they didn’t even put a hat on her.
I TOTALLY, TOTALLY DISAGREE with the chosen winner. I had 3 (yes three) of the Kidde ABC multipurpose fire extinguishers in my home. One in the Kitchen, one in the laundry room and one in the pantry. We had a fire in the Kitchen and I grabbed the one under the sink. After spraying and then releasing the nozzle to spray in a different direction, THERE WAS NO WAY TO SPRAY AGAIN!!!! It completely stopped working!!!! I ran and grabbed a different one and THE SAME THING HAPPENED and then THE THIRD one I just kept my finger pressed on the nozzle and never let off it. The first two cans were MORE than half full, BUT could NOT be used!!!!!!!!!! HORRIBLE Extinguisher !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just had a fire at the house yesterday from a meat smoker. ABC extinguisher did not work and it kept coming back on fire, firstalert fire extinguisher spray put it out in seconds and it stayed out, I just posed a video of my dad saving the day
Fire blankets are to be left in place for a long time on such a fire. But more importantly, they are great as an alternative first use before wasting the fire extinguisher on a small fire, or for someone not familiar with the fire extinguisher, or as a backup if the fire extinguisher fails to operate or doesn't get the fire out before its exhausted. They can also be be used to wrap a person/kid in to escape thru flames in a house fire. Or used to help hold back fire coming thru a door, window, or wall. I have blankets at every woodstove as well. So many uses if used properly.
After reading numerous reviews and checking prices, I've decided to go with Amerex. One each in car, house, and shop, plus a Tundra in the kitchen. I liked this review in spite of the unfortunate choice of Kidde as #1. The Kidde did a great job, but will the next one? When you need a fire extinguisher, you really need it, and it has to work.
Most stupid thing to use in case of a small kitchen Fire is an ABC powder extinguisher. Yes you can extinguish the Fire easily bud the bigger problem comes after the job. The whole kitchen and more is covered with the corrosive powder thus causing even more damage than the small fire does. Better use a foam extinguisher type ABF. So you won't have to clean up the mess a powder extinguisher leaves behind ;)
In my humble opinion, the Kidde fire extinguishers, the whole line, save the CO2 are junk. Our family had a huge warehouse years ago that was protected by KIDDE 10 and 20-pound ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers. They regularly either lost pressure over time, or, when they were hydrostatically tested one or two would inevitably fail by splitting at the treaded collar on the tank. The failure was always at the same place. We finally threw out the whole lot, and replaced with like sized and type AMEREX brand extinguishers. Never had a problem after that. By far AMEREX is the most dependable brand on the market. It is just too bad that GENERAL fire extinguisher corporation went out of business years ago.
Todd Sylvester And don't forget Kidde has a huge recall into the millions on all it's extinguishers with the nylon head or nozzles another reason to stay away from them
Commenting about the mess the extinguishers left behind is a little misleading. ALL of the dry chemical extinguishers will do that. The other issue is that extinguishers don't last forever. They do need to be inspected and recharged periodically (about once a year typically) depending on local regulations. Still, it's a small price to pay for the safety.
Jason///// They are inspected primarily for pressure. Also inverted several times to keep the powder from caking. Regs call for hydro-testing (I think) every 6 years.
Dry chemical extinguishers are required to be visually inspected by a professional every year, have a teardown inspection and recharge every 6 years, and that plus a hydrostatic test every 12 years. This doesn’t apply for residences, but it’s probably good practice.
Dry chemical is always the best in the kitchen when the Dutch oven deep fryer catches fire. A tight lid is even better. Have a lid handy along with the fire extinguisher.
LOL @ 2:41 who rests their arm like that when they're writing? He was just DYING to show the audience his tattoo. He's like "check out my sleeve tat brahs"
The quickest way to put out a fire in a pan is with a lid even a bigger lid and shut off the stove. The best way to put out a oven fire is don't open the door and shut the oven off it will suffocate itself out with no air. Whatever you do don't open it the flames will shoot out. Both those things has happened to me when I was 16 back in the day and it works fast. My dad used to be fire chief before he retired so we had tons of 20lb fire extinguisher's in every closet and entry. They are nice to have. One thing to remember it's better to have more then enough juice then not enough. Min 10lbs anything less is a chance your taking with fire. Fire is unpredictable. The scariest fires are the ones you can't see or are asleep "electrical". There's no battling those. Now it just using the fire extinguisher to get out to safety if you have one close by and hopefully you're not a heavy sleeper.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL. So informative and they're really nice to take all the time to do all the testing in all their videos for us so that we don't have to.
I had the Kidde extinguisher that I luckily have never had to use, but it slowly lost pressure anyway. To recharge it would have cost as much as a new extinguisher, so I decided to buy a couple of the Tundras instead. I watched another demonstration using the Tundra and it worked very well and didn't reignite like in this vid.
Why the complaint about foam from the First Alert when it's way easier to clean than the massive cloud of dust from others? Seems that is the obvious choice. It could be written in chinese, but everyone already understands how to use a spray can.
I just purchased two 2.5 lb. First Alert extinguishers for an RV...also considering outdoor/engine fires. Both standard red coded. A, B, and C. How do they measure up to Kidde? Thanks.
Hmm. Wonder how much Kidde paid for this review. Pretty sure I saw that dish towel get pushed around by the discharge of the recalled, exploding Kidde too. Not to mention a very similar cloud of dry chemical. I’ll stick with baking soda, a pan lid, and then one of my Amerex.
The main reason that a stove, range top or any other fires that has a separate heat source like burners, elements or induction surface other wise the fire will re-ignite because the heat source is still active. You must turn off the heat source to reduce the likelihood of a re-flash. The blanket would provide you some protection if you have to reach across to the back of the stove to reach the burner controls. Keep it covered for a couple of minutes in order to let the item to get below the ignition temperature. Once a fire extinguisher has been used consider it empty regardless of how little you used it. The powder in the extinguisher prevents the valve from fully seating allowing for the propellant to escape. Extinguishers must be inspected annually and have other inspection requirements as they get older. I worked for a company that serviced, maintained, repaired and refilled fire extinguishers as their shop manager and I can't tell you the number of customers that came in complaining that their extinguisher didn't work after just one use or that was several years old.
At many of the stores in my area that sell Kidde fire extinguishers, guess what brand extinguisher they have hanging on the wall? Not Kidde. Usually Amerex.
BC fire extinguisher on a class a fire: discharging problems... I was really interested, if the BC fire extinguisher could have extinguished an A type fire.
If you haven't already. Thank the fire dept up there in Boston for their help. It's awesome that they did that !! And thank you for this review. My GF and I are moving to florida to enjoy our retirement soon, She has a tendency to make the smoke alarm go off. (really...) and I plan to start a grease fire outside in a wok and have her actually USE an extinguisher. So I have a question: What about Carbon Dioxide extinguishers? they are effective and don't leave any residue. But do they work on grease and towels? Thanks again!
Carbon Monoxide extinguishers are “clean agent” but they’re designed for use where there is delicate industrial machinery that has a fuel or electrical fire hazard. Carbon Monoxide would either blow cooking grease (class K, but for residential can be covered by a B rated dry chemical) out of the pan or put it out only for it to reflash a few seconds later. They are also ineffective against class A (towel) fires.
I've had one stove fire underneath a pan and it was pretty big. I pulled the pan off and through salt on it and it went out immediately but I want an extinguisher.
Tapi kenapa waktu wajan penuh minyakku terbakar, lalu aku semprot dengan alat pemadam botol kecil, kok apinya makin bertambah besar??? Jadi aku mesti pakai pemadam yang model apa, Mister?
I regret to say that the ABC Kidde dry chemical fire extinguisher, that was placed in my art studio, blew off the plastic screw - valve top at the threaded connection. Fortunately, I was not in the studio at the time of the explosion or I could have been seriously injured. However, it has taken me two weeks to clean up the mess of MONOAMMONIUM PHOSPHATE, MICA AND AMMONIUM SULFATE & TALC. These tanks were recalled without my knowledge and if I had known about the amount of damages and clean up, I would have never used one of these. The tanks are listed at 15 to 16 lbs and are filled with 195 PSI. The powders are invasive and covered everything including closed drawers, art work tables, shelves, frames, electronics, tools, blinds & window sills - EVERYTHING ! ! I would not recommend using one of these and if you do... store it outside of your work area! ***** WARNING - THESE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS BY KIDDE ARE DANGEROUS *****
It's better to be cleaning up residue from the extinguisher than to watch your home burn down. If you even think you might need the extinguisher don't hesitate, if you hesitate it might be too late to control the fire with a residential extinguisher.
They usually have a dial that tells you if the pressure is high enough inside. Most manufacturers recommend anywhere from 5 to 15 years between replacements
High quality, metal valve, rechargeable units like the Amerex in this video could last forever, but _by the book_ should be visually inspected by a professional every year, teardown inspected and recharged every 6, and same but with a hydrostatic test every 12. Plastic valve extinguishers like the Kidde in this video should be replaced every 12 years, or better yet, not purchased at all.
Lol totally subjective. If your going to use them use them the same. The first alert did fine so what if it leaves a mess like most extinguishers and if used right the fire won't reignite. Better a small mess putting out a fire than a totally burned down house.
thank yuo for this well done review. Lots of effort and research behind these videos. Also great testing methods as well. All i can ask is to do more of these.
Thank you America's Test Kitchen!!!! I'm learning to weld and melt steel, so with your advice I wrote this mini-article for my welding website. Also I added a bit of advice from the comments; * FIRES. Fire extinguishers are VITAL. I often use a lightweight arasol can because it's light weight for instant grabbing. I use "A B C" rated, not just "B C" rated, for multiple kinds of fires. The downside to an arasol extinguisher is that fires re-ignite if they aren't thickly coated in fire retardant. You have to 100% block air from the fire. FirstAlert Tundra arasol spray is excellent for small fires, because its super easy but sadly has a thin small coverage. A fire blanket is excellent but small and expensive, has to be left there a good five minutes or the fire can re-ignite. 8ft x 8ft Fire blankets or larger are perfect if you can find one. The "Kidde ABC Multipurpose Fireextinguisher" is fairly good at $25 dollars USD, but some Badger and Sentry products last longer and can be refilled. A everyday garden hose is super useful if it's already turned on, because a extra-hot fire spreads instantly within seconds. I keep a 3 gallon metal bucket full of water, covered with a shower cap to keep out leaves, so at any time I can splash a fire. A fire can be knocked around by a high water force, spreading bits of flaming debris.
How nice: right after viewing this video, I went to my kitchen, and found that Kidde wsa the very brand and model that my landlord provided in my apartment! (I also have an extra in the bathroom: lucky me.)
How can you dismiss the can when it worked directly how its supposed to work? The can is meant to prevent fire once the flames are getting out of control i. e. reaching your roof. The fires that you had lit don't pose a danger to your house burning down. The can should not be used as an only option but I would definitely consider it as it could save your house from burning down by stopping/slowing the fire before it reaches the roof, giving you time to call the fire department.
Were you watching the same video? The can didn't work at all how it was supposed to work. They mounted it according to the manufacturer's own directions, as if it was hanging off your stove hood. Also, you really think that tiny thing is going to stop a fire that's hitting the roof?? Good luck with that.
Except it did work in the way it was supposed to - a fire poses a danger once the flames reach the ceiling/wall. It won't trigger until the flames are hot enough - so putting this above on the ceiling will buy you time because at that point the fire has gotten out of control . I wouldn't have it solely over a fire extinguisher but I would definitely have it as a backup - it could save your house from burning down
Here's the thing. The can is not meant to be put on the ceiling. It's meant to be put on the stove hood. This is per the manufacturer's own instructions. And it failed miserably. Also, you seem to think that a fire that has reached the ceiling (so, flames reaching eight or nine feet tall, think about that) and by your own words "out of control" would be stopped by one tiny can, which is simply not believable. I'm not sure why you are so hell-bent on defending this product. Do you see these cans often hanging from the ceiling in people's homes, in restaurants, or businesses? When you search for fire extinguishers for sale, are these the first result? Can you find lots of reviews on them that state they're better than the handheld extinguishers? If the answer is no, care to take a wild guess why that is?
i personally have a large abc one in my appt, but just in case i bought two fire be gone and am puting one on the other side of the house and one in my truck, just in case. granted if a massive fire starts the little can wont do a whole lot either fight my way to the big one OR save my cats and get out.
Wow. They recommend the cheap plastic Kidde over the quality Amerex. Literally the same 2.5 lb ABC dry chemical 1A 10B:C except for one being a piece of shit.
All fires can re-ignite... this has absolutely nothing to do with what extinguisher you're using. When trying to put out a fire, don't stop spraying the extinguisher until it's empty. They are a one time use item.
Actually you can empty an entire extinguisher on a kitchen grease fire and have it reignite. The best kitchen fire extinguisher is the wet chemical K extinguisher, it actually creates a top layer that prevents oxygen from getting back in. Usually they are for deep fryers, you can empty 20 full abc extinguishers and the fire will keep going. Only thing that works is the K wet chemical.
Baby/// Not quite. The re-ignition is cause by retained heat in the combustible. Dry powder smother but do not cool. Foam extinguishers will help cool the surroundings and prevent re-ignition.
The irony that the worst rated system got advertised before the video... Heck, I thought the ad was a joke at first, only to see it be included, and tossed...
As I fire investigator I have seen the Stove Top Fire Stop work in apartment kitchens on several occasions. Your set-up is NOT a standard kitchen and the device is designed to work with a hood or microwave that collects the heat and activates the device. You stated that the set-up was per the directions and I would disagree...your testing is inaccurate and to tell people it doesn't work is a false statement. Secondly, the fire that you show would not and could not extend to cabinets, items on an adjacent counter, etc. Therefore, your fire cannot and did not grow to the point that an average residential kitchen fire would. Your assessment of these products was in a word, unrealistic. I will stick with UL and NIST testing for my evidence based results.
*They have been recalled.* Either call them and tell them the serial number so they can send you one with a metal valve, or purchase a higher quality Amerex, Ansul, or Badger extinguisher.
They showed the Tundra. She said it did a good job putting it out initially, but the flames kept coming back (had to monitor the area) and left a mess (though I suppose all fire extinguishers are going to leave a big mess).
Nope, CO2 extinguisher leave no mess at all. The ones with dry powder leave a big mess. The most important thing is preventing fires in the first place, don't count on having insurance or extinguishers for safety, or on prevention and then of course have plenty of extinguishers around, one in each room of the house is a good way to go, that way you will always have one near by and have plenty of back up, you need back up, and always one or two in each car. Most people won't have a fire blanket handy but you can easily keep a large, wide heavy duty roll of aluminum foil in the kitchen, it must be the heavy duty one though and as wide as you can find, tear off two or thee sheets as needed to cover the flames, clean and fast, it only works on small fires, catch it early and it is the best way to go. CO2's are my favorite but they cost more, a lot more, I think it's better to have several dry chemical ones around the house than just one CO2.
Our microwave caught fire because a family member tried to reheat fast food that, unbeknownst to her, was wrapped in foil from the restaurant. She just put the entire bag in the microwave. It took no time for the fire to start. I quickly grabbed the First Alert Tundra spray. I had never used it before. It put out the fire in seconds. Yes, it left a mess but I still have my house and our lives. Worth the $25 for 2 for sure.
Still get a regular fire extinguisher just in case its not just the microwave on frie next time
You forgot to remind people where in the kitchen they should store it. That is not in the cabinet above the stove or anywhere next to the stove.
You also should never have to turn your body 180* from the stove or oven in order to retrieve it. One should not take their eyes off a fire, intentionally made or otherwise.
A fire isn't a cobra, take your eyes off it to grab the extinguisher. We don't want you to trip and get knocked unconscious.
Never leave your fire extinguisher where it can get above 120° F like near the the stove.
Where to store it then?
@@sl4983 id recommend that you store it near a possible entrance/exit to the kitchen
So if in the case the fire extinguisher doesn't work or the fire spread too fast to do anything against it you can grab it and immediately be near the exit if necessary
You know what leaves a bigger mess than an aerosol fire extinguisher? No fire extinguisher at all.
GD//// I would rather clean up some soapy residue than the dry powder that goes everywhere.
There would be no soapy residue to clean up because it wouldn’t stop the fire, so you’ll have bigger issues.
Can confirm. Ten months ago my neighbors had a stove fire. My house was damaged, everything I owned had to be replaced due to smoke damage. My house had to be stripped down and gutted to the frame. Firemen smashed out my windows, ripped down my walls and ceilings. I’m set to move back into my house in a few weeks.
Sure wish they’d have had a $20 extinguisher
A liquid residue is a lot better than the giant fume clouds and dust getting into the rest of the home. I was surprised that was even a complaint.
It kind of bothered me how they seemed to give the Amerex extinguisher a "downside" because of the large "fume cloud". I am a FF here in Arizona and used nothing but Amerex extinguishers in my academy to practice small fire mitigation and they work flawlessly if used properly. We put out a large 10x10 diesel fuel pan fire using a couple of sweeps back and forth, PASS method. One 10 pound canister would last through 5 or 6 students rotating using it before we had to get a fresh one. I would rather have that large plume of "fume" than have the fire continue burning. Just my thoughts and experiences.
Your an experience FF we are not. So we need something that a dummy can operate in seconds not an hour after reading the instructions. The company that I work for I'm in the ERT and we practice with fire extinguishers. I personally have the KIDDE one at home but at work we use a different brand and different type like halon fire extinguisher and carbon dioxide.
@@adrpals2324 you have to be literally brain dead if you cant use a simple fire extinguisher
I’m no fire fighter, but have put out five fires during my 60 years and the bigger the fume cloud the better. You want to cover everything that on fire or might be about to catch fire. It’s going to be a mess, but better to knock the fire down quick.
it also allows you to get range in, if its a bigger fire ... I have to agree with you.
Fire blankets are important to have in case a person catches fire.
True. But they can just stop, drop, and roll.
How are those used, and where do you get them?
@@sl4983 4:50
Crazypilot995 Not in a fire where they are covered in gas, oil, etc. Fire wont smother.
Yes you have to leave the blanket in place for 20 minutes but they work well I have used them a number of times see this video ruclips.net/video/48A4ZSHg3tA/видео.html
Kidde now also makes a specific white kitchen extinguisher. The UL previously had no standards for these, but does now (K). The bottle is the same, but the nozzle makes a wider spray at less pressure, so it will not blowing burning oils around to spread fires.
Same price, too. Very much worth looking at.
I’m in fire protection trades. I have one of those in my kitchen. It’s a great idea.
4:25 if you read the instructions for that kind of extinguisher, it's a 1-time use can, and you have to use the entire can in 1 go, otherwise you will not keep the flames from reigniting. The mess it creates is irrelevant if the objective is to stop the fire.
Thanks for the update, I've had a Kidde on the recall list in my home for 10 years. I submitted the recall online and Kidde had a new extinguisher to me in a week, plus included packaging and return label for the faulty model.
i love how you do what you do. no talking down to the audience or coworker. method and process clearly explained. clear and coherent, no rambling but friendly. thank you.
Once I had put some cooking oil in a iron skillet, turned the stove on and waited for it to heat up. While I was waiting, I stepped into the living room to watch TV, which was only a few steps away, being it was a condo. I guess I stood there too long, next thing I smelled smoke? When I turned to look, the flames were nearly touching the ceiling?! I ran back into the kitchen, assessed what I needed to do... I grabbed a big ceramic dinner plate and covered the skillet. That of course did the job quite quickly.
Another fire solution would've been "Baking Soda."
Being a former fire extinguisher sales/service rep.. I can tell you that the Kidde brand is not the best choice in my opinion, they have a history of losing pressure over time. A better choice would be Badger and Sentry brands. Kiddie's are one time use and the other brands can be tested and refilled and lasts much longer.
you must not have repped other kiddie...
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Video info has been updated to include the Kidde recall information on the plastic handle models. Give them the model and serial numbers and the send a replacement for each one you report and give info on how to return the recalled unit.
All the Kidde models we have in the home and garage are refillable. Spend less than $10 and you get your money's worth in any brand.
Mr. Brian, go and check my aerosol type kitchen fire extinguisher
would these work for LIPO and Lithium ion fires?
This is an unfortunate video, it recommends the unreliable Kidde with plastic valve which has been recalled numerous times over the years, latest in 2017. Then after that was recalled it recommends the Tundra spray can which meets no UL standards, has no UL fire rating and is not legal for home fire protection in jurisdictions that require a home fire extinguisher. Even Consumer Reports rated the Tundra "Don't Buy" due to reliability problems. A cheap fire extinguisher is like a cheap parachute, too late to pay more when you need it to work, and it fails. Go to a fire equipment dealer and buy a metal valve Amerex or another reputable brand, with proper maintenance it will protect you for the rest of your life.
Those Amerex type fire extinguishers are perfect for people with experience. But I want something light and easy to use. Just point and spray. Like a can of WD-40. And I want it light enough so I can keep one in my camper-van. And make it cheap so everybody buys it. 15 seconds to start use a fire extinguisher is a fail, even if it can kill the fire in a second.
@@DeontjieWorked fine for my first experience using what Retired Fed LEO has recommended. It could not have taken longer than 2 seconds for me to pull the pin, aim, and squeeze the lever. My working knowledge was reading instructions and watching a training video prior. No experience. BTW, it was a ABC 4 lb model and was used on a car engine fire in its incipient stage... It appeared to me that oil was dripping on the ground, and the fire kept reigniting at that point. It didn't take long for the extinguisher to go empty. It took about another 5 minutes for the fire truck to arrive. Where I couldn't have done anything even if I wanted to. But it didn't spread beyond its ignition source in that time. Drawing from my only experience, even a 4 lb size may not be adequate for a camper-van. I might consider two, something appropriate for the cooking area, and another for the vehicle, and both being capable to supplement one another. Light and easy is subjective, but all I remember is one moment it was in my hands and the next I was fighting fire, w/ no memory of pulling the pin or any fuss. Driver was still in the vehicle and adrenaline may have been involved.
Retired Fed LEO, has this right. Also size does matter, you're buying time and back up in case of reflash
Umm...okay. What about First Alert that is commonly sold in building supply stores? You don't recommend that?
Esoteric Mystery first alert is made by various manufacturers depending on when you buy one you may get a quality or junk.
A few years ago my father accidentally set our stove on fire after over-filling a pot of frying oil causing it to splash over and catch on the electric coils. In a matter of seconds, it made its way into the oven vent and caught there too as the oven was also on. Thankfully we had our extinguisher and were able to quickly put it out before calling the fire department to check and make sure that there was nothing hiding behind the stove or in the wall behind it. I can't imagine what we would have done without it and while we had to get a new oven it was well past its lifespan anyway.
the only unitasker you should have in your kitchen..
Thanks Alton.
Angelus Nielson I suppose it must be extremely difficult to find old frying pans to set fire to!
It can be used as a Meat Tenderizer, Personal Defense Weapon and Decoration.
In his Edible Inevitable Tour, He made Ice Cream with Fire extinguishers
Angelus Nielson do you consider a waffle iron to be a multitasker?
Omg. As an engineer, I can’t believe the mistakes in this video. First, the hanging auto extinguisher didn’t work because the fire simply wasn’t big enough. It did a good job once the fire was close. This lady had long exposed HAIR during the testing and they didn’t even put a hat on her.
How was it "not big enough"? By the time it gets big enough, the whole kitchen is probably on flames.
@@99xara99 Because it is designed to be in a range hood, not hanging from an open air boom in the middle of a room.
@@oxygon2850 it still works like a fire work tho, of it needs 27 inch flames to ignite the wick...throw it away unless you're deaf dumb and blind
@@jer280 I hope you feel better. You have added so much to a comment I made 4/5 months ago... :\
@@oxygon2850 I thought RUclips was timeless 🧐
I TOTALLY, TOTALLY DISAGREE with the chosen winner. I had 3 (yes three) of the Kidde ABC multipurpose fire extinguishers in my home. One in the Kitchen, one in the laundry room and one in the pantry. We had a fire in the Kitchen and I grabbed the one under the sink. After spraying and then releasing the nozzle to spray in a different direction, THERE WAS NO WAY TO SPRAY AGAIN!!!! It completely stopped working!!!! I ran and grabbed a different one and THE SAME THING HAPPENED and then THE THIRD one I just kept my finger pressed on the nozzle and never let off it. The first two cans were MORE than half full, BUT could NOT be used!!!!!!!!!! HORRIBLE Extinguisher !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just had a fire at the house yesterday from a meat smoker. ABC extinguisher did not work and it kept coming back on fire, firstalert fire extinguisher spray put it out in seconds and it stayed out, I just posed a video of my dad saving the day
Fire blankets are to be left in place for a long time on such a fire. But more importantly, they are great as an alternative first use before wasting the fire extinguisher on a small fire, or for someone not familiar with the fire extinguisher, or as a backup if the fire extinguisher fails to operate or doesn't get the fire out before its exhausted. They can also be be used to wrap a person/kid in to escape thru flames in a house fire. Or used to help hold back fire coming thru a door, window, or wall. I have blankets at every woodstove as well. So many uses if used properly.
After reading numerous reviews and checking prices, I've decided to go with Amerex. One each in car, house, and shop, plus a Tundra in the kitchen. I liked this review in spite of the unfortunate choice of Kidde as #1. The Kidde did a great job, but will the next one? When you need a fire extinguisher, you really need it, and it has to work.
Most stupid thing to use in case of a small kitchen Fire is an ABC powder extinguisher. Yes you can extinguish the Fire easily bud the bigger problem comes after the job. The whole kitchen and more is covered with the corrosive powder thus causing even more damage than the small fire does. Better use a foam extinguisher type ABF. So you won't have to clean up the mess a powder extinguisher leaves behind ;)
In my humble opinion, the Kidde fire extinguishers, the whole line, save the CO2 are junk. Our family had a huge warehouse years ago that was protected by KIDDE 10 and 20-pound ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers. They regularly either lost pressure over time, or, when they were hydrostatically tested one or two would inevitably fail by splitting at the treaded collar on the tank. The failure was always at the same place. We finally threw out the whole lot, and replaced with like sized and type AMEREX brand extinguishers. Never had a problem after that. By far AMEREX is the most dependable brand on the market. It is just too bad that GENERAL fire extinguisher corporation went out of business years ago.
Todd Sylvester And don't forget Kidde has a huge recall into the millions on all it's extinguishers with the nylon head or nozzles another reason to stay away from them
General Extinguishers were tanks!
No one mentions First Alert. Are we consumers being scammed?
That Kidde extinguisher has been recalled.
Nice thinking from whoever decided the instructions should not be read before use.
I just keep a container of salt beside the stove for fires. Have had 2-greese fires and has worked perfectly everytime.
Commenting about the mess the extinguishers left behind is a little misleading. ALL of the dry chemical extinguishers will do that. The other issue is that extinguishers don't last forever. They do need to be inspected and recharged periodically (about once a year typically) depending on local regulations.
Still, it's a small price to pay for the safety.
Jason///// They are inspected primarily for pressure. Also inverted several times to keep the powder from caking. Regs call for hydro-testing (I think) every 6 years.
Dry chemical extinguishers are required to be visually inspected by a professional every year, have a teardown inspection and recharge every 6 years, and that plus a hydrostatic test every 12 years.
This doesn’t apply for residences, but it’s probably good practice.
Need more fire extinguisher reviews.Thank you for your work.
Dry chemical is always the best in the kitchen when the Dutch oven deep fryer catches fire. A tight lid is even better. Have a lid handy along with the fire extinguisher.
LOL @ 2:41 who rests their arm like that when they're writing? He was just DYING to show the audience his tattoo. He's like "check out my sleeve tat brahs"
Very nice. I just bought my first home and this video is exactly what I needed. Thanks!
The quickest way to put out a fire in a pan is with a lid even a bigger lid and shut off the stove. The best way to put out a oven fire is don't open the door and shut the oven off it will suffocate itself out with no air. Whatever you do don't open it the flames will shoot out. Both those things has happened to me when I was 16 back in the day and it works fast. My dad used to be fire chief before he retired so we had tons of 20lb fire extinguisher's in every closet and entry. They are nice to have. One thing to remember it's better to have more then enough juice then not enough. Min 10lbs anything less is a chance your taking with fire. Fire is unpredictable. The scariest fires are the ones you can't see or are asleep "electrical". There's no battling those. Now it just using the fire extinguisher to get out to safety if you have one close by and hopefully you're not a heavy sleeper.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL. So informative and they're really nice to take all the time to do all the testing in all their videos for us so that we don't have to.
It’s a fuse that triggers that little thing that’s more a thing for if the fire starts to get giant and hit the ceiling
I had the Kidde extinguisher that I luckily have never had to use, but it slowly lost pressure anyway. To recharge it would have cost as much as a new extinguisher, so I decided to buy a couple of the Tundras instead. I watched another demonstration using the Tundra and it worked very well and didn't reignite like in this vid.
I love amerex and I think they work just fine
Why the complaint about foam from the First Alert when it's way easier to clean than the massive cloud of dust from others? Seems that is the obvious choice.
It could be written in chinese, but everyone already understands how to use a spray can.
I just purchased two 2.5 lb. First Alert extinguishers for an RV...also considering outdoor/engine fires. Both standard red coded. A, B, and C. How do they measure up to Kidde? Thanks.
Hmm. Wonder how much Kidde paid for this review. Pretty sure I saw that dish towel get pushed around by the discharge of the recalled, exploding Kidde too. Not to mention a very similar cloud of dry chemical. I’ll stick with baking soda, a pan lid, and then one of my Amerex.
I think the Plastic handle on the kiddie extinguisher is recalled due to an defect
The main reason that a stove, range top or any other fires that has a separate heat source like burners, elements or induction surface other wise the fire will re-ignite because the heat source is still active. You must turn off the heat source to reduce the likelihood of a re-flash. The blanket would provide you some protection if you have to reach across to the back of the stove to reach the burner controls. Keep it covered for a couple of minutes in order to let the item to get below the ignition temperature. Once a fire extinguisher has been used consider it empty regardless of how little you used it. The powder in the extinguisher prevents the valve from fully seating allowing for the propellant to escape. Extinguishers must be inspected annually and have other inspection requirements as they get older. I worked for a company that serviced, maintained, repaired and refilled fire extinguishers as their shop manager and I can't tell you the number of customers that came in complaining that their extinguisher didn't work after just one use or that was several years old.
Figured it would be the Kidde - everywhere I go, trains, buildings that's what's in there most of the time.
Kidde is actually the worst brand you can buy.
At many of the stores in my area that sell Kidde fire extinguishers, guess what brand extinguisher they have hanging on the wall? Not Kidde. Usually Amerex.
BC fire extinguisher on a class a fire: discharging problems... I was really interested, if the BC fire extinguisher could have extinguished an A type fire.
Why the DRY FOG fireextinguisher not tested? 95% waster saving, faster application and multipurpose ALL FIRE TYPES compatible.
If you haven't already. Thank the fire dept up there in Boston for their help. It's awesome that they did that !!
And thank you for this review.
My GF and I are moving to florida to enjoy our retirement soon, She has a tendency to make the smoke alarm go off. (really...) and I plan to start a grease fire outside in a wok and have her actually USE an extinguisher.
So I have a question: What about Carbon Dioxide extinguishers? they are effective and don't leave any residue. But do they work on grease and towels?
Thanks again!
Carbon Monoxide extinguishers are “clean agent” but they’re designed for use where there is delicate industrial machinery that has a fuel or electrical fire hazard. Carbon Monoxide would either blow cooking grease (class K, but for residential can be covered by a B rated dry chemical) out of the pan or put it out only for it to reflash a few seconds later. They are also ineffective against class A (towel) fires.
@@Fredengle Sorry for using the wrong name 3 years ago
I've had one stove fire underneath a pan and it was pretty big. I pulled the pan off and through salt on it and it went out immediately but I want an extinguisher.
This was an exceptionally valuable video. Thanks!
Tapi kenapa waktu wajan penuh minyakku terbakar, lalu aku semprot dengan alat pemadam botol kecil, kok apinya makin bertambah besar??? Jadi aku mesti pakai pemadam yang model apa, Mister?
Thank you this is very important information.
You guys clearly had fun with this review
I actually have one of the aerosol extinguishers. I've not used it yet but glad to know it's not the best
Dry chemical extinguishers will destroy your electrical components. It gets everywhere.
Fire will also destroy your electrical components. And your house. And possibly you. You can buy new electrical components. Use the fire extinguisher.
Thank you.
Thanks for the review. I have not had the need to put a fire (knock on wood) but good to know. Thanks again!
Looking at buying a fire extinguisher and looks like it'd be smart to get two in case one fails
Did you get to test the Worcester Sauce while you were there?
I regret to say that the ABC Kidde dry chemical fire extinguisher, that was placed in my art studio, blew off the plastic screw - valve top at the threaded connection. Fortunately, I was not in the studio at the time of the explosion or I could have been seriously injured. However, it has taken me two weeks to clean up the mess of MONOAMMONIUM PHOSPHATE, MICA AND AMMONIUM SULFATE & TALC. These tanks were recalled without my knowledge and if I had known about the amount of damages and clean up, I would have never used one of these. The tanks are listed at 15 to 16 lbs and are filled with 195 PSI. The powders are invasive and covered everything including closed drawers, art work tables, shelves, frames, electronics, tools, blinds & window sills - EVERYTHING ! ! I would not recommend using one of these and if you do... store it outside of your work area! ***** WARNING - THESE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS BY KIDDE ARE DANGEROUS *****
First Alert channel doesn't even have this information. Thank you.
It's better to be cleaning up residue from the extinguisher than to watch your home burn down.
If you even think you might need the extinguisher don't hesitate, if you hesitate it might be too late to control the fire with a residential extinguisher.
How long does it last? i.e. what is the expiry date?
I've gone over 10 years of cooking without a fire - surely this can't last that long?
They usually have a dial that tells you if the pressure is high enough inside. Most manufacturers recommend anywhere from 5 to 15 years between replacements
High quality, metal valve, rechargeable units like the Amerex in this video could last forever, but _by the book_ should be visually inspected by a professional every year, teardown inspected and recharged every 6, and same but with a hydrostatic test every 12.
Plastic valve extinguishers like the Kidde in this video should be replaced every 12 years, or better yet, not purchased at all.
Probably your most important equipment review, like really.
Lol totally subjective. If your going to use them use them the same. The first alert did fine so what if it leaves a mess like most extinguishers and if used right the fire won't reignite. Better a small mess putting out a fire than a totally burned down house.
no buy Amerex, there’s quality behind the diamond
thank yuo for this well done review. Lots of effort and research behind these videos. Also great testing methods as well.
All i can ask is to do more of these.
Thank you America's Test Kitchen!!!! I'm learning to weld and melt steel, so with your advice I wrote this mini-article for my welding website. Also I added a bit of advice from the comments;
* FIRES. Fire extinguishers are VITAL. I often use a lightweight arasol can because it's light weight for instant grabbing. I use "A B C" rated, not just "B C" rated, for multiple kinds of fires. The downside to an arasol extinguisher is that fires re-ignite if they aren't thickly coated in fire retardant. You have to 100% block air from the fire. FirstAlert Tundra arasol spray is excellent for small fires, because its super easy but sadly has a thin small coverage. A fire blanket is excellent but small and expensive, has to be left there a good five minutes or the fire can re-ignite. 8ft x 8ft Fire blankets or larger are perfect if you can find one. The "Kidde ABC Multipurpose Fireextinguisher" is fairly good at $25 dollars USD, but some Badger and Sentry products last longer and can be refilled. A everyday garden hose is super useful if it's already turned on, because a extra-hot fire spreads instantly within seconds. I keep a 3 gallon metal bucket full of water, covered with a shower cap to keep out leaves, so at any time I can splash a fire. A fire can be knocked around by a high water force, spreading bits of flaming debris.
How nice: right after viewing this video, I went to my kitchen, and found that Kidde wsa the very brand and model that my landlord provided in my apartment!
(I also have an extra in the bathroom: lucky me.)
yeah, those Taco Tuesdays can be rough, eh?
If so, your fire extinguisher has been recalled. You need to go to inmarmarketaction.com/kidde/ and have them send you a new one.
Kiddes are known for horrendous quality. Especially their extinguishers with plastic valves. Recalls like above come out every few years for them.
Lesson : do not buy crappy pseudo fire extinguishers, buy a proper one made to recognised national standards
Thanks for recommending a defected fire extinguisher
'Bigger is not always better'
That's what she said...
How can you dismiss the can when it worked directly how its supposed to work? The can is meant to prevent fire once the flames are getting out of control i. e. reaching your roof. The fires that you had lit don't pose a danger to your house burning down. The can should not be used as an only option but I would definitely consider it as it could save your house from burning down by stopping/slowing the fire before it reaches the roof, giving you time to call the fire department.
Were you watching the same video? The can didn't work at all how it was supposed to work. They mounted it according to the manufacturer's own directions, as if it was hanging off your stove hood. Also, you really think that tiny thing is going to stop a fire that's hitting the roof?? Good luck with that.
Except it did work in the way it was supposed to - a fire poses a danger once the flames reach the ceiling/wall. It won't trigger until the flames are hot enough - so putting this above on the ceiling will buy you time because at that point the fire has gotten out of control . I wouldn't have it solely over a fire extinguisher but I would definitely have it as a backup - it could save your house from burning down
Here's the thing. The can is not meant to be put on the ceiling. It's meant to be put on the stove hood. This is per the manufacturer's own instructions. And it failed miserably. Also, you seem to think that a fire that has reached the ceiling (so, flames reaching eight or nine feet tall, think about that) and by your own words "out of control" would be stopped by one tiny can, which is simply not believable. I'm not sure why you are so hell-bent on defending this product. Do you see these cans often hanging from the ceiling in people's homes, in restaurants, or businesses? When you search for fire extinguishers for sale, are these the first result? Can you find lots of reviews on them that state they're better than the handheld extinguishers? If the answer is no, care to take a wild guess why that is?
I have one branded Reinold Max Stop Fire. I just hope it's not that bad and I hope I'll never have to use it.
so far this is the best comparison I have come across on youtube. thank you!
do you really care if you gotta clean up a mess if your house didn't burn down
i personally have a large abc one in my appt, but just in case i bought two fire be gone and am puting one on the other side of the house and one in my truck, just in case. granted if a massive fire starts the little can wont do a whole lot either fight my way to the big one OR save my cats and get out.
They invented spray can version of extinguisher.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video! ❤
That's because you didn't put enough oil in the pan to create the fuel needed for the flames to grow big enough to reach the fire stop.
Is a sad day for fire protection when kidde is recommended before amerex...
Wow. They recommend the cheap plastic Kidde over the quality Amerex. Literally the same 2.5 lb ABC dry chemical 1A 10B:C except for one being a piece of shit.
Use halotron. No more spending hours cleaning up powder from the extinguisher in the kitchen
Yeah, but they're pricey and can be potentially toxic if used in a confined space.
What the hell are those bug spray extinguishers? Tptally not legal here
And dont you get to try these in school?
I didn't see Cold Fire in there. Too bad.
The reason why one fire extinguisher didint work is cuz its recalled it has plastic head
All fires can re-ignite... this has absolutely nothing to do with what extinguisher you're using. When trying to put out a fire, don't stop spraying the extinguisher until it's empty. They are a one time use item.
Actually you can empty an entire extinguisher on a kitchen grease fire and have it reignite. The best kitchen fire extinguisher is the wet chemical K extinguisher, it actually creates a top layer that prevents oxygen from getting back in. Usually they are for deep fryers, you can empty 20 full abc extinguishers and the fire will keep going. Only thing that works is the K wet chemical.
exactly! this test wasn't a good one...i wonder why there firemen did not tell them.
Baby/// Not quite. The re-ignition is cause by retained heat in the combustible. Dry powder smother but do not cool. Foam extinguishers will help cool the surroundings and prevent re-ignition.
The irony that the worst rated system got advertised before the video...
Heck, I thought the ad was a joke at first, only to see it be included, and tossed...
The whole show is one big ad. They review only the brands they can make money off of.
Yeah went to their website and they show you NOTHING unless you pay for a mag subscription. More scams, like all the other scams...
Mike Cartwright ˋ
I'd like to see halotron on these fires, in comparison.
Great job! Didn't expect that video from your channel. Nice work
Those idiots had so much trouble because they didn't turn off the burner. That's ALWAYS the first thing you do.
Thank you for this video!!!
ALWAYS CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EVEN IF YOU PUT THE FIRE OUT! Yes I all cap on purpose.
Thank you. Incredible video!
As I fire investigator I have seen the Stove Top Fire Stop work in apartment kitchens on several occasions. Your set-up is NOT a standard kitchen and the device is designed to work with a hood or microwave that collects the heat and activates the device. You stated that the set-up was per the directions and I would disagree...your testing is inaccurate and to tell people it doesn't work is a false statement. Secondly, the fire that you show would not and could not extend to cabinets, items on an adjacent counter, etc. Therefore, your fire cannot and did not grow to the point that an average residential kitchen fire would. Your assessment of these products was in a word, unrealistic. I will stick with UL and NIST testing for my evidence based results.
Yes the small one lost its pressure becuase you sprayed it?
1:51 Thats not what she said at the picnic !
Waiting for amazon price increase...
It actually decreased :)
You call pan of cooking oil burning a house fire??? Just cover it with a lid and you are done Karen, no fire extinguisher needed.
You only had one person test it
great video. Thank you
amerex abc is better than the winner
glad to see this is the one i bought a while back.
*They have been recalled.*
Either call them and tell them the serial number so they can send you one with a metal valve, or purchase a higher quality Amerex, Ansul, or Badger extinguisher.
B and c is useful in cars
I love how you showed the Tundra can but never actually tested it on camera. Not quite fair.
They showed the Tundra. She said it did a good job putting it out initially, but the flames kept coming back (had to monitor the area) and left a mess (though I suppose all fire extinguishers are going to leave a big mess).
It was a dainty effort. She seemed afraid to unleash it.
Nope, CO2 extinguisher leave no mess at all. The ones with dry powder leave a big mess. The most important thing is preventing fires in the first place, don't count on having insurance or extinguishers for safety, or on prevention and then of course have plenty of extinguishers around, one in each room of the house is a good way to go, that way you will always have one near by and have plenty of back up, you need back up, and always one or two in each car. Most people won't have a fire blanket handy but you can easily keep a large, wide heavy duty roll of aluminum foil in the kitchen, it must be the heavy duty one though and as wide as you can find, tear off two or thee sheets as needed to cover the flames, clean and fast, it only works on small fires, catch it early and it is the best way to go. CO2's are my favorite but they cost more, a lot more, I think it's better to have several dry chemical ones around the house than just one CO2.
Love test kitchen. It's independent, thorough, gives all the facts and separates the winners from the losers.
The makers of that stovetop rangehood one should be ashamed. By the time a fire gets big enough to reach it, the whole kitchen will be on fire.
If it had false positives, nobody would use it.