POV Sparring a Taekwondo Master
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- I Spar with 4th Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo, Master David Wright in Kickboxing and then WT Taekwondo point fighting!
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What did you say that got bleeped out!?
Question, would you consider Taekwondo to be a style of karate?
TKD kicked your ass. 17-0
@@austinwiebe2648 thats a dang good question. All the karateka will start tripping, but yeah. About as different as Honda pilot, civic, accord, etc. vs Hyundai similar.
"congrats on taking your first class enjoy that black belt" I died lmao
😂🙏
@BigBoyPeter no, it was a clip from one of the martial artists in a room skits
As a 16th degree master, this is hilarious. Can't wait to see where it goes in the second six months!
Its a misunderstanding in that TKD belts levels are DIFFERENT then other styles.
Black belt is the beginning master rank in other systems but is NOT in TKD.
Master level rank in TKD is 4th degree and up and takes 15 years. 1st degree -3rd degree black belt just means you are beginining to master the basics. But i understand the misconception hence the jokes lol
@@teovu5557 finally someone’s said it🙌🏾
I honestly believe my TKD background, when I was a kid, gave me an advantage in the kicking department when I got really into Muay Thai as a teen. I had so much dexterity in my legs that others couldn't replicate until they had been training for a long time.
Same for me. I did tkd from ages 5 to 11.
Same here, I did karate as a young kid 9-13 then picked up wrestling and stopped going to karate classes.. then around age 23 I started training kickboxing and still was able to throw basically everything except wheel kicks with my left leg and like 360 roundhouses and stuff I didn't really learn in the first place.. I didn't have any power in them but the control and dexterity was still there
I mean obviously lol
personally I found it worked against me (TKD black belt), for Muay thai people approach the science of kicks differently then TKD guys, so for you to truly appreciate the way muay thai guys kick and the good and bad about it, you gotta do it like them, but them your TKD instincts will kick in and sometimes by accident you will do it the way your TKD master taught you.
Then you will eventually enter this middle stage point, where you are trying to keep the genuine good things about TKD, and then fuse it with muay thai, and this part I found to be the hardest, for you find your body having trouble deciding what stance to be in, when to use which style of kicks. Eventually you over come this and you end up as this muay thai guy with a huge option of kicks to use. But its definitely a transformation process
I found something similar from my time in Kindy Gym.
Nine years since any kind of flexibility training and I had head kicks within three months of joining Karate and great dexterity plus my full split in every direction within the year.
It impresses people because I’m a big, lumbering oaf and then I start throwing kicks that are not only over their heads but over mine as well.
Getting flexible as an adult is stupidly hard, getting it as a kid is much easier and makes getting it back as an adult much easier.
the fact that he embraced the joke and gave you an, "absolutely" was beautiful. Master Wright is such a great ambassador for TKD... chill, respectful and gracious--but the dude will still kick your head off when appropriate :D
Thank you!
@@wr1ghtstuff878 of course! It's always a delight to see you in these videos! Although I've had an interest in many martial arts, TKD was the only one I've officially taken, so I always love seeing it represented well.
In fairness, there are a lot of similarities between TKD and Karate, so someone who is as experienced in Karate as Sensei Seth could easily start Taekwondo close to black belt.
That was fun to watch. I sparred a TKD guy a few times long, _long_ ago, and figured out quickly that if I stayed at his preferred range he'd pretty much take my head off anytime he felt like it. Therefore I decided that I'd only have a, uh, fighting chance if I closed to practically stand-on-his-feet distance and laid the hands, knees, and elbows in.
And that's when I found out the SOB had taken boxing lessons too.
When it comes to asskickings it's definitely better to give than to receive, but even the latter is a learning opportunity. 😁
Clinch GG
Lol, sounds like a TKD who knows their art.
you throw elbows in sparring?
I'd certainly had the idea in mind, but as it turned out, no. I got too busy having my ass handed to me, and during the "now let's have a quiet drink and deconstruct that fiasco" phase several people with clues pointed out that elbows, and for that matter knees, would have been a Bad Idea in this context anyway.
But I wonder whether I should even call this ... activity "sparring," because for starters it wasn't, and in all likelihood wouldn't have been, sanctioned by any of our instructors. (BTW, I don't claim to be a Martial Artist in any meaningful sense, so I don't know whether there's a technical term that means "ignorant/overconfident green belts f***ing around.")
@@dchiznit209: Forsooth.
I, on the other hand, "knew" a lot of things which turned out not to be true.
Like, for instance, "TKD people don't do hand strikes."
it's great to see it from the gopro perspective, making it much more realistic of how hard fighting such an opponent is
Fr bro it looks different on film but through POV it’s a lot harder
Especially with how EFFORTLESS Master Wright moves; dude never stops smiling, never seems out of control, barely seems to be working hard and yet he's planting kicks wherever he wants them to be at force.
Lmao
Master Wright was my primary mentor in taekwondo for over a decade. Thank you for having him on your channel repeatedly. I tried to convince him to share his knowledge on RUclips but he's always been too humble to show off. Thank you for this.
Miss you!
@@wr1ghtstuff878 Master...please share some knowledge on youtube please!!!
@@wr1ghtstuff878 we want you in USDC 😊
Ahhh. TKD. Honestly the martial art, in a distilled version, is a very dangerous fighting style. It is of course not MMA but any of the guys that have had it as a base always kick better than anyone else.
almost anyone else. dont wanna upset muay thai guys
Im a beginner in mma but i think wing chun and TKD are good to learn in the off season as extra tools in a toolbox
@@GrowthMindsetTogether Boxing would be better ,, The guard position for TKD and Wing Chun are not compatable without a shift
Muay Thai disagrees
@@twasgracethattaught Muay Thai values kicks highly so they always have good kicks but they are also spending time on all 8 weapons. While taekwondo is focusing heavily on just the 1. So no Muay Thai aren't the best kickers.
Master Wright represents Taekwondo so well. Glad to see more content featuring him!
Thank you!
I am a Brazilian Taekwondo black belt and have been training the art for approximately 10 years including teaching for some period. The big problem with Taekwondo is that the martial art suffered from a very large process of banalization and sale of belts, specialy in USA, so many academies start to graduate black belts with less than 2 or 3 years of light training. Here in Brazil I don't see this phenomenon happening with such intensity, so most of us reached the black belt level with around 6 to 8 years of regular training, some taking more than 10 or 12 years.The change of the olympic rules in Taekwondo WT also contributed to worsening the image of the martial art as they made athletes replace the fast and powerful combinations of kicks by leg fencing. However, a Taekwondo practitioner who trains at a legit dojan for years, doing sparring and conditioning tends to be an excellent fighter due to the unique and effective combos of kicks and footwork of the style. Taekwondo can be an extremely effective and brutal way of fighting in any striking scenario as long as the practitioner is dedicated and doesn't speed up the process merely to achieve the black belt level in a short time.
Having learnt TKD back in the early 1970s in the RAF under an ex South Korean master who fought in Vietnam, I could not agree with you more. I was a senior belt and since then have witnessed here in the UK the same selling of black belts after only 3 years of training. It took me 3 years to get my blue belt and I was effectively training, sparring and destruction virtually every day, without any protective gear. Also on here, I can't believe the number of obese so-called masters who can just about do do a mid-height kick and senior belts who kicks are weak and feet are not locked plus the absolute farce of bouncy bouncy, tappy tappy, hands hung down loose getting points for basically just touching their opponent. I totally agree with you that when TKD is taught 'properly', with the highest level of fitness, aggression and correct technique it is brutal. Later in my life when 55 I was in Egypt and coming back from a cash machine two men started to walk beside and try to get me to talk to them, indistinctly my senses went on alert and saw one pull out a knife. Without thinking, I did a twisting round house punch to his nose and then a reverse elbow strike to the throat of the other one , both went down and I ran like hell all the way to my hotel and stayed in for the two days I had left. I don't mean to be arrogant, but I truly believed if I had done TKD in a club in England now as oppose 50 years ago, I would have been robbed , stabbed and possibly dead.
A black belt in 2-3 years is just ridiculous. I guess it varies by club, but at mine the minimum time to go from white to 1. Dan is about 6 years, and you have to put some real effort in to get there. Most people tend to linger a while on their blue or red belts. Even when you get to that black belt, your degree is still an assistant instructor...getting to instructor level would be another 9 years of training.
@@TheSwiftFalcon Absolutely wise words and could not agree more.
@@TheSwiftFalcon Which is your country my friend? Are your Taekwondo academy linked to WT?
@@MarinhoRFilho I'm in Norway, and my club is associated with ITF. :) I wasn't aware there was an ITF and WT when I started, the club was chosen in part because it is a good club with good instructors, and also in part because it's where my nephew trains. My son is also eager to get started there, but he'll have to wait a year until he's old enough. :)
You are doing a great job as walking punching bag!✊
Built for this
@@SenseiSeth You sure are. You're big, mobile, have humility and learn from every martial art, even the badmouthed ones. I'm gonna love this video cuz i had a year and a half of vigorous tkd experience but my base in striking was boxing so i had my doubts on it. I'm interested to see what you have to say in it, watching these helps me learn too, i especially liked the video about wing chun, the interception of hits and all that. I think you would do great with dirty boxing tactics (there's plenty of vids on it). I can sure say that your size, strength and experience would bring much success with that. Keep up the great work, peace!
Thanks Ilija!
Don't be silly... He wasn't a walking punching bag... He was a walking kick bag! 😂😂😂
He was walking lol
As a 3rd degree in TKD and being one to hear jokes/statements that it’s “useless” I very much appreciate this video from Sensei❤️
Useful vs ppl that do not train? That don't understand distance? Would you rather have a blackbelt in BJJ or TKD? Honest question, not being disrespectful
@@illprophill3501 Useful against people that do not train yes of course, that don't understand distance that would depend on how you were trained. For the last question;
There is no need to compare black belts between different martial arts. Both martial arts are vastly different, and asking someone to pick between those would be asking someone if they wanted their own private yacht or private plane.
Both serve modes of transport, but the person who appreciates either more would have a clear choice to pick. In my opinion, it isn't the most respectful question to ask.
@@illprophill3501 if I’m gonna answer in bias, I’d rather have one TKD😂 but to answer subjectively, I don’t really think a black belt in either makes a difference because it more so depends on how one trains their discipline(s) and apply to w/e tha circumstance allows or opportunities they create💯
@C J B So you sucker punch folks? You must've never been in a real fight. Sorry bro
@@illprophill3501 ahh BJJ the art of lying down in baby pose and gently grope your opponent as he mounts you and try to mount him back. one kick in the head and your out cold, some of the best kickboxers of all time had their base in tkd. tell me, what has bjj added to mma that is not a part of Ju Jutsu or any other submission grapling sport?
One thing that TKD really offers over a lot of others, is the volume of speedy kicks. Can appreciate.
Just goes to show that, no matter which style you train in, you can be effective at any scenario you put practice in to. It's all about how you train.
“So do I get my black belt now?” 🤣🤣
I didn’t
@@SenseiSeth its because you didn't pay cash
I love every video with Master Wright, I can't ever get enough. I wish you included him more on your channel.
Thank you!
A friend of mine took TKD, and he was a soccer player. Guy was magical with his feet. Pinpoint precision, next level timing, and his ability to keep me in his comfort zone was otherworldly. Reminds me of when Icy Mike said "Have you tried being a world-class athlete? Did you try that?"
Your friend is zatlan?
My brother also took soccer before taking TKD and he is at blue belt and one of the better fighters at our Dojon.
They seem to flow well together.
My father studied TKD and played football for fun but to joke around i told him if he’s outnumbered he can use his football skills to run. But he never ran he always fought no matter what and fast too.
Nobody:
TKDs: I'll try spinning. Thats a good trick!
Spinning = power
@@OfficallyBread UNLIMITED POWER!⚡️⚡️⚡️
I may not have practiced Tae Kwon Do myself, but, from what I have seen in sparring demos, it is beautifully powerful yet utterly lethal in its own special way. I have even managed to tune myself into Kwonkicker's channel, and he has definitely enlightened me in terms of what real Tae Kwon Do entails.
Kwon is so underrated, dude is a legitimate tactician🔥
@@daxsheepard9344 I just discovered him, and I am utterly blown away in the best way possible.
@@daxsheepard9344 Kwon's humor videos are fun but his serious teaching videos show a first rate fighter who understands Tae Kwon DO in its entirety.
And as to TKD's underestimated lethality. Due to the modern perception of it as "foot fencing" or just a flashy Olympic Sport, most people aren't aware that it was originally a Korean military hand to hand art that was was actually pressure tested on the battlefield. Classic Tae Kwon Do had over 175 offensive and defensive hand/arm techniques in its arsenal supporting an arsenal of over 80 offensive and defensive leg techniques. And unlike competition TKD, those leg techniques started not at the belt working up but at the ankle and working up.
Honestly I would say one of the best thing about TKD is it really teaches you the fundimentals of tricking your opponent through false body language signals. One of my favorite kicks has always been to turn a front kick into a pretty painful side kick. And you see David do a lot of simmiliar tactics in his sparring by making it look like it was goign to be a body shot then turning it into a head shot.
Love this vid...it reminds me of countless frustrating sparring sessions with TKD guys/girls who have come to our kickboxing club. The feet of doom that come from no-where 😂
to fight taekwondo you need to be strong to take those kicks and dont let it come to Vital point like Rip & Liver that Muaythai Fighter aleady suffer from Spinning heel hook kick and TKO.
TKD girls? lol you just take the hit and they fall down, it's like kicking a wall for a girl, the girl falls, not the wall.
@@eudesgeoffroy8416 imagine thinking about girls like this in 2022. Everything ok at home? Embarrassing.
@@madsulrik5rs Yea imagine thinking men and women don't have the same physical capabilities, alot of dojos forbid girls sparring against boys for obvious reasons.
but you know what its 2022 right? its all about equality, girls and boys should do full contact sparring with each other im sure nothing will go wrong there.
@@madsulrik5rs clearly his head must be a wall
That final point! Thats my bread and butter, the turning back kick. He saw you turning and just threw it because he knew the physics were there. You were going to turn and your chest be open to his rear leg back. Beautiful! It USED to be a pretty standard counter kick before REALLY NEW TKD got too safe. (hint, you dont HAVE to aim at the chest, you CAN blast to the face with it) TKD gets a bad rap, and it deserves it for one major point. Duration of training before it becomes "effective". 6 months TKD is not enough to help you in a fight. 3 YEARS in TKD ISNT enough to do more than marginally help you. Decade plus, with tournament fighting and an emphasis on speed (and be in good shape)... now you actually have some effectiveness. Great video!
The first person cam gave me PTSD
from my high school TKD days, having to always spar tall people. Thanks….
I can relate.....sucks ass sparring tall ass people who can kick.............I get tired just remember trying to just get close enough to kick only to run into......more kicks.
lol ya for real
Yeah I'm about 170cm and 55kg, so my strategy was always 'get inside their kicking range and keep moving because I'm lighter, faster and smaller than they are'
EDIT: I'm a TKD guy
My son has been in TKD since he was 4. Faught internationally until his second year in college. He just received his 4th-degree Black belt. He now teaches and coaches at Poos in Edmond Ok. The owner was an Olympic Coach. He will be the firs to tell you the sparing aspect of Olympic style is very one dimensional especially when paired against a strong grappler, but ist still very effective. It is 100% his passion. Thank you for your videos.... Great content
Not gonna lie, it was fun watching him basically use you as a human Bob bag 😆 Safe Space Karate 1 - Sensei Seth 1/2, cuz participation trophy 😄 seriously tho, this was a good vid. Cool to see you challenge yourself by practicing with others. Collab time with Mr Dan from Art of One? Be fun to watch you spar with him, more MMA rules tho since you both are learning the art of the BJ-J too, so add in grappling plus kicking. Mr Dan's kenpo would be great to see in action to compare with your style.
Taekwondo is a greate martial art and good to show people
If taught correctly yes. However they have little to no grappling most schools teach utter garbage and I've found that you can beat taekwando people by moving slightly to the side and catching those spinning kicks. If they don't set them up right which they usually don't they're easy take downs.
@@twasgracethattaught I think that if you are skilled enough as a Taekwondo practitioner and fast enough you can do serious damage with kicks. You have to find the right school if you and want proof that kicks can be powerful, watch some Edson Barboza KO kicks and there is your proof that kicks can be powerful and kicks are a main part of Taekwondo.
Thank you for your perspective.
@@SB_AE Also a Taekwondo fighter from ONE FC Tanh le ,He only uses taekwondo to attack
The most important thing about a martial art is honesty about what it is and is not. TKD is awesome for some things and less so in others. As long as you are honest about what youre doing, you are growing and that is good.
We need more POV's like this one 🤩
I realized the so called "spinning" isn't a joke as some people were led to believe (its not easy to realize that, unless you're seeing it as the person taking the kicks)
when used properly it can be a feint and sometimes an evasive maneuver - its supposed to make your kicks unpredictable (and we all know TKD kicks are supposed to be very flexible and effective)
the mistakes some TKD practitioners made would be using the "spin" to either maximizing the momentum or trying to look cool - this essentially choreograph your kicks instead, making them more predictable and less effective
Back when I used to box I once sparred with a Taekwondo fella who wanted to improve his hands - I thought I'd be smart and close distance and stay right ontop of him so he couldn't do any kicks. Even though I was right on him he did the coolest axe kick I ever saw and caught me right on the shoulder. Was pretty chill sparring not full contact but the weight of his leg, I woulda buckled and went down if he went all out. Never realised you could do an axe kick with so little room for movement. Coolest kick I ever saw
Loving the content at the moment. This episode was awesome, as this was WTF you should also find a good ITF Taekwondo person to train with aswell and compare the two.
It would be the same. WT and ITF have significant differences but that is mostly in sport rules. In a kickboxing rule set like they did it would be almost the same thing maybe slightly less spinning (though still plenty of spinning) on the ITF part
Do something with GNT!
@@suvidminecrafttutorials4175 just the fact that itf uses much more hands makes it way better for combat
@@marvelbeatsdc8764 Good shout! Ginger Ninja Trickster would be the perfect rep for ITF or even Van Roon Martial Arts. @Sensei Seth
@@AshkanZuhal right and all ITF does is light contact, WT guys can have good hands too and unlike ITF guys they also know how to take hits
Idk why ppl make fun of taikwondo, I've dabbled in it, and it is quit tricky. A well practiced, and flexible guy, or girl can, and will take your head off, and you won't even see it coming. I respect it. The power that guy can generate, is absolutely devastating. Much love, and respect to the both of u, and to the martial arts world as a whole. ✌
That was awesome! His skill level must be unbelievable because I’ve seen your abilities in person and they are amazing as well!
I love how you are willing to train in other arts. its astonishing in this day and age how masters are so inflexible to admit that all arts have something to offer...and the worst are the bjj / mma instructors
Mr Wright is obviously made for TKD. He is tall with extremely long legs and a suberb flexibility paired with probably decades of practice. Many people just don't have the flexibility/mobility needed to apply these kicks properly. You need supreme hip mobility, healthy joints, be able to do side splits etc. And then still be able keep your opponent at a long distance, since TKD is often very "kicking oriented".
If all this is applicable for you, more power to you.
Master Wright is such a great teacher, I'm so glad I was able to train under him when I did! Hopefully I will be able to do so again soon :)
Thanks Sara!
My TKD master got cancer and lost a lot of weight. However, it only made him faster and his kicks became truly lethal. The speed they would come in and the angle changes. Phew…
One thing I noticed here was that the TKD guy wasn’t doing any faint kicks, where the kick starts in one plane and turns into another. This was something my style did a lot. A round house would become a side kick, a half turning would become a twist kick. And spinning side… well, that could be turned into anything.
Training Taekwondo really depends on your master. Our teacher used to make us spare with no pads, for upwards of 5 minutes per fight. She would walk out and start talking to someone or start using the phone, meanwhile we are trying to take eachothers heads off with flying kicks(no pads). Where as my grandmaster would have us spar lightly and with full protective gear. It really depends on the do-jang and masters that you train under. That being said, it's easy to get rushed with TKD, but there are moves that you can use to counter when someone is rushing into you.
5:20 trying to stay far back away from a TKD practioner is like the worst possible strategy you could think of. That would be like laying on the ground to try and fight a jujitsu guy. It's like the one and only strategy that won't defeat him.
Awesome channel! My 7 y/o son and I do TKD together and I'm having such a great time learning it. I've trained MMA, Muay Thai, BJJ about 15 years ago and know all about the "real fighting" styles, but at this point in my life, I care more about my son getting started in martial arts and building up his confidence with TKD that's mainly focused on kids and families. Plus, it's super awesome to be learning a new martial art with my son by my side :)
thanks for doing more taekwondo!
Some people just like to hate, Tkd always worked well for me. MMA fighter’s with karate or Tkd background are the most exciting fighters to watch.
Yo, Master Wright is holding out a loooooot on Seth, even in the last part, he is giving out the goof kicks when we spar with juniors or people with less size.
Im a 4th degree black belt in taekwondo master right is a true taekwondo fighter he did the 360 i do but his kicks fluidity he knew what to do yea taekwondo is laughed at but they have great timing master right makes it legit I remember watching them sparr the first time this a great video sensei seth.
Great video, you can tell master Dan was being very nice with his kicks and combinations. I would love to see more collaboration between you two.
This is so hilarious. Because I've trained in both Taekwondo and karate I kind of forget how different they are because I'm used to blending them together. These videos are great
Yo, I REALLY like this POV style of sparring. Would love to see more as it helps me just kind of get used to what is coming when I go to spar in striking. Please please more of this.
As a black belt in TKD I can safely say that sure, there are kids with black belts but the black belt means that you've learned the basics and when you earned your fourth degree black belt, that means you've mastered the more advanced stuff and then after that you just keep learning.
Historically I think that was what bb's meant, we westerns twisted into some representation os a mystical mastery
@furiousfellow1583 I can see that, however in my school we've been taught that earning your black belt is only the beginning of your journey.
Well, I got to admit, he was very skillful with those kicks, one can learn a thing or two from someone like that. Same way as Seth is good with his techniques, Wright proved he is no slouch in his area for sure. Cheers guys!
Man, I love how respectful you are to other arts and artists.
Congrats on 200k subs
Good fun Sensei Seth! You're a good sport. Remember folks. Taekwondo is just a lot, repeat, a LOT of technical kicking. In combination with boxing and grappling it can be a killer part of standup.
I have only a 1st Dan in TKD, and from my relatively limited experience, I can say that a lot of the criticism towards the style is generally accurate. To the majority of body-types, there's much better options. But, to the lanky, skinny guys, it can be an absolutely devastating style.
what do you mean liited experience being a 1st dan. im 2 dan in TKD and i was my countries champion from the 15-17 age category so id say its no limited experience
Am lanky skinny guy, can confirm.
TKD has infighting options too hehehe
Refreshing , funny
and delightful videos . So much respect and none of the "My martial art is the best " attitude !
As much as I do enjoy the banter between us classical martial factions (team TKD here, you know I've made my share of karate jokes), it's still surprising that so many people continue to downplay the effectiveness of traditional martial arts like TKD and Karate, even when we're consistently seeing some of the top fighters in the world credit it routinely: obviously Mahcida and Wonderboy, but there's Robert Whittaker, Yair Rodriguez, Zabit Magomedsharipov, Michael Venom Page, Giga Chikadze, Edson Barboza, Rose Namajunas, Valentina Shevchenko, Zhang Weili, heck, GSP even credited his ability to quickly and effectively pick up wrestling to the timing he picked up in Karate (and these examples are just the tip of the iceberg).
Yes, those guys are obviously mixing in other martial arts too, like wrestling and boxing, but that's the whole point of MMA - its called "mixed martial arts." If you tried to only stick with one martial art, even one of the "good" ones, you still would stand a chance in modern mma - notice you don't see too many boxers jumping over to have an mma super fight. Obviously if you're training TKD, but never actually practice hitting anyone or getting hit, then yeah, you'll be good at forms and your kicks will look nice, but you'll be completely lost in an actual fight or some sort of full contact competition - but if you only trained drills in a grappling art or only shadow boxed for boxing, then you'd still end up in the same scenario.
Once you learn how to apply these traditional techniques in a modern context, they can significantly enhance your game.
Taekwondo is like ketchup. It maybe weird and ineffective on its own, but when paired with other Martial Arts, it can really create a delicious flavor.
I don't see how it's ineffective at long range which is what it's all about. It's better than nothing at mid range and pretty useless at close range.
This brought back memories. My first competition was sparring against a third-degree black belt state champion. I was a first-degree black belt. At one point he lifted his leg in a chamber position and just stood there. I couldn’t for the life of me figure out how to get around that. He could kick over three times and keep his leg in the air. It is objectively better to spar against someone who is better than you. Especially if they have a good teachers heart like the person in your video.
This is what I meant when I said that sparring with your hands down would not be a good idea against someone who is good at kicking. Distance can be very deceptive and it is a lot easier to strike without telegraphing where are you are aiming. The important thing to remember is that it does not mean that sparning with your hands down is useless in all scenarios. Every technique has a place and many techniques have weaknesses. They are tools.
My trick against that flamingo stance/kick is just to step back and wait MAKE him attack first then counter lol
That's illegal now, Kukkiwon decided it was too boring to watch lol
@@teovu5557 That’s the thing. Whenever you come up Against some thing that you’re not used to it can throw you for a loop even if it is a very flawed technique. Sort of like charging someone with a flying sidekick. There are a couple very easy counters to that but if you aren’t prepared for it then you won’t know what to do.
That is one thing that separates regular martial arts from martial arts designed for a competitive career. For regular martial arts the focus isn’t on filling in the gaps in your training as fast as you can. You’re gonna be doing this the rest of your life so the focus is on building a good foundation so that you can fill in the gaps in your training as best as you can. The order in which you fill those gaps changes with the instructor and style but they will all be filled eventually if you continue to train.
@@teovu5557 that sparring match was an excellent training experience.
TKD is my main style and I'm glad that you posted a video sparring with a master TKD practioner. I understand to a degree the amount of jokes TKD gets. However it can be very effective if executed properly as this video demonstrates. I personally am an MMA student with TKD, Kenpo, Aikido and Muay Thai. I believe anyone that really wants to learn to defend themselves should have at least 2 arts or more they can lean on. Great content thank you
Master Wright needs to be in a fight scene in John Wick 4 wearing an all black suit kicking the shittttt out of people
That'd be awesome!
@@wr1ghtstuff878 you are the Master Wright?
I started TKD when i was 10, Im a 2nd Dan, stopped TKD when i was 19 but started doing Boxing and Muaythai when I was 18 a year before I left. It's been 10 years since then and im glad taekwondo was my first art. Still have better dexterity and flexibility, speed timing than any other kicker(let alone land the head kick effortlessly.) and its a great art to add if you love MMA or want to add to your distance and timing. Footwork for Boxing or Muaythai is very different, and TKD positioning and footwork(with modified stance) Allows kicking and moving fluently. Western Muaythai practitioners are slow motion to me in comparison, very few have that movement that allows accurate kicks instead of a swing to a general area, and making them miss and "spin out" is baby food. Easy counters.
Ye same here. Tkd and jkd first. Then muay thai and mma. Nobody could hang with my hybrid kicks and varies of attack. Atleast same training experience. But jkd added alot more to the tkd, as i learned sidekick to the knee, Southpaw Main Stance with a very effective JAB which tkd doesnt not have.
I'm just a blue belt in TKD, but I've held those thick cushions when our red and black belts are showing off, and it hurts. I've also held the cushion for our 5. Dan master, and it *really* hurt. TKD has a point system and you generally prioritize light touches, but those kicks can be brutal when thrown hard.
I trained in boxing & old school tkd from my childhood. It benefitted me so much that i easily competed in Sanda, Karate, Muay Thai & Kick boxing tournaments too
TKD is one of those martial arts that works better when you combine it with something else
As a student of TKD I found this video educational as well as fun. Great job :)
I started in TKD but soon I realized the limitations, so I added Tang Soo Do and Judo. These days you need a combination of disciplines to get a more complete, well rounded system.
Tang so Do is awesome, Did it from the age of 5 to 17, take that and throw in some boxing/kickboxing skillsets you become a kicking murder machine with hands to back it up. Like the dutch kickboxing approach
How is Tang Soo Do different from Tae Kwon Do. I heard the kicks are the same.
@@junichiroyamashita They are very similar. After WWII five main schools were established based on traditional Korean arts. Tang Soo Do is like TKD but with more influence from Kung Fu and Karate.
I never did TKD, but I always thought they got a bad rep, (maybe because there're a lot of McDojos for TKD?) but to appreciate it, you need to feel the pressure of those kicks during sparring. It's very hard to close the distance on a good TKD-guy, because they kick really hard, fast and from unexpected angles. They can still kick at boxing range, so you have three options:
1.) Keep your guard up and leg-kick all day, but you need to be very careful and you need to have a lot of stamina.
2.) If you know how, get into trapping-range and start boxing/elbowing/kneeing.
3.) If you can, get in close and grapple.
In kicking and boxing range, TKD is dangerous. As a means of self defense, it has problems.
1.) It's incomplete, lacking good hands and grappling.
2.) Having only powerful kicks maybe too little against a good fighter and too much against a weak fighter.
3.) Achieving and maintaining those kicks takes a lot of time and effort and becomes impossible when you get older. If you do it for self defense, it may not be the best use of your time.
And yes, I like to list things.
After watching this video I really have to consider training Taekwondo, so I can beat up and confuse my Karate sparring partners
Can’t hurt to know more things!
@@SenseiSeth I love this comment. Always always learning and moving! Definitely can’t hurt!
"David is what we call a nice human, hes a good guy" best quote of the video
I would love to spar either of you. Sparring is my favorite part of TKD. Practiced it since ‘99.
There are great Taekwondo fighters like Master David Wright. There are very good fighters and also very bad fighters in every martial art and sport combat. That's why sometimes Taekwondo is a laughing topic when someone talks about it, until you see a good one of course. I also fought some national champions from my country (Perú) with full contact every time I was sparring with them, those featherweight kicks hurt a lot even for a super welterweight fighter like me, I can assure it because I received many body shots (gear protection for the body and head on the sparring, I never used foot and hands protectors) and they paralized my body if they land clean right on the liver or the stomach. I also miss sparring my friends
The fact that he's got a considerable reach advantage on you definitely works in his favour. I'm 6'0" and the second tallest person in my dojo. The reach advantage definitely shows itself. But whenever I spar with the one guy taller (6'3"), i have a much harder time.
Your thumbnails and editing became a lot better, good job!
I've practiced a little bit of boxing, muay thai and taekwondo. Taekwondo is the most fun, imo. Requires flexibility but it's very cool
This is one of if not my favorite video you’ve produced so far. I have a friend that I loosely train MMA with and he has a background in taekwondo. Naturally I have joked about it. But in all honesty I know that a mastery in it is something to be revered. And this reinforces that. I would love to see him and wonder boy spar MMA and Taekwondo.
You should create a video about other martial arts sparring each other like taekwondo vs capoeira and Muay Thai vs American kickboxing and can you create another Comparing video about different types of kickboxing like Muay Thai and American kickboxing and dutch kickboxing and sanda kickboxing in the near future
This would be sick
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I just got back from my Taekwondo comp class and saw this video. Good stuff. The gopro perspective was co. I hope to see it again in other videos.
Don't worry Seth, you'll get at least 1 point next time 😄.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
His Tornado/Dragon kicks are bad ass. Spins yet is still 100% offensive.
When I used to do TKD (not WTF, but TAGB) I remember that feeling of being up against really tall, really fast black belts that seemed to be able to kick me in the face from any position, regardless of whether or not my hands were up, whether or not I was moving, whether or not I was attacking, just anything. It was ridiculous.
Awesome sparring! It looks like you guys had so much fun :)
Tkd rocks
I started with taekwondo when I was a little kid in elementary school and got a green blue belt in the end. Later I switched to Krav Maga and now I do kickboxing. However I never understood the bad reputation of Taekwondo it is a great martial art focussed on kicks. My Taekwondo experience definetly helped me a lot to get into kickboxing ! :)
Proves yet again, the Teacher always makes the difference in a Martial Art
You remind me a lot of “not the expert” with your positive attitude and your funny inserts and jokes. I love it keep up the good work
Master Wright vs wonderboy
I got my black belt in ITF at 11, before progressing through MMA, Wing Chun and now Systema. I 100% credit my ability to fight from my TKD base, it’s really excellent for kids who would need to rely on agility and speed to put force into strikes. To this day, I have always been able to kick far above my head; even when I don’t do any stretches and while wearing jeans.
Man's trying real hard to not admit that he about got whooped, I respect it lol
I gave up on Taekwondo when it became all about tournaments. "Get ready for the next tournament because nationals are right around the corner and don't forget that mini-tournament in June." And that was in a school that was pretty old school and did its sparring in what I now realize was a pretty Tang Soo Do/Kickboxing manner.
However, I took great joy in moving like a kicker, training like one, and then winning matches with punches because one of my instructors was an old golden gloves guy.
Oh yeah! TKD is dangerous and there are lots of injuries BUT no one talks about it...
I had to stop NCAA TKD in my junior year after a back-to-back hyperextension and pulled hamstring. Every tournament had idling ambulances on-site which is not something you'd expect when people are fighting from 6 feet apart and wearing hogus that feel bulletproof.
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I think the sudden-death nature of point sparring leads people to suddenly overcommit their entire body to attack. And they are launching across a longer distance, which builds up more momentum. So when limbs collide its at higher speed and with more body mass behind it.
Also, when headshots are illegal and all it takes is a light tap to the belly to lose a match, and lowered arms give better balance anyway, this leads everyone to leave their head open. Not just unguarded, but sticking straight up like a golf ball on a tee.
Maybe no one talks about the injuries because of advertising fear? I dunno... All I know is everyone I knew as a kid that took TKD WAS WAY DANGEROUS! But much more humble than us guys that took boxing... lol!
Yeah I tore my ACL (very important knee ligament) while sparring in May 2022 and I'm just now becoming able to get back into properly training (June 2023). I missed taekwondo so much when I couldn't train, because for me I don't do it to fight (although sparring is very fun), I do it for the social aspect, the strength, the agility, the athleticism, and the coordination
Commendment to this very humble and honest approach to this fighting point of view.
Let’s fix that title.
“I Was a Punching Bag for a Taekwondo Master”
You’re welcome.
Love it!
As a former TKD student, yes their kicks will impress you and even hurt you if they do it correctly
Osu! Sensei Seth, love your channel, big fan. Great video, I’ve studied a few different styles of martial arts over the years, I’m by no means an authority in any of them lol. I’ve got to say though those WTF Taekwondo players have such sublime footwork and by far the SICKest Spinning Back Kicks out there. I’ve seen tournaments where they are scrapping!lol. He makes it look so effortless too, which seems to be another signature of their black belts. Great video, respect to you both!
I would appreciate a 'what from taekwondo can I take to my sparring' video lol
I really appreciate that you're making us discover awesome people like Master David. Seems like such a good dude!
This video was really made just to hammer home the point that pretty much any martial art CAN be useful and effective with a good instructor. Just cause the majority of TKD instructors water it down a ton doesn't mean they all do. Some arts are more useful than others on average, but the quality of the instruction trumps all.
Your kicks are darn good too Seth. Don't sell yourself short.
What?? You sparred a Taekwondo Master. You've sparred with me before and I'm a Taekwondo Master. I'm a 5th degree black belt in the World Taekwondo Federation and I'm in the USA Martial Arts Hall of Fame. So you sparred a Taekwondo Master Again. I guess nobody watches my videos anymore 😕. Seriously David is a good example of our style and he has excellent kicking technique. Another entertaining video.
Oh I didn’t see your post before I commented. So when did you spar? Is it on one of these channels? I bet it was fun. Hope you get back posting videos again.
loved this
the high level tkd practitioners use their kicks like boxers use punches.
and, yeah, its built for scoring points. so maybe fencing is a better analogy.
high level karateka focus on grounded kicks for ko matches.
but both would ko someone, no problem.
its a matter of style and practitioner.
More kick knock outs happen in taekwondo then in karate....lol
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btw isnt most karate pointing fighting where you stop after each hit and where KO's are not allowed? lol