Michael Jordan vs Gary Payton Highlights vs Supersonics (1997.03.18) - 46pts Total! PHYSICAL BATTLE!
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That's actually pretty nuts that Payton almost had a quadrupole-double 😮
Look at his fundamentals on that give and go. Yea, he was Air-Jordan...aka Mr. Excitement. But most importantly his Fundamentals were always on point.
m Khan Kobe and Wade know how to play offball tho. Lebron much less than them. And Harden... N/A.
That’s what I keep preaching to these young folks or these Bron fans. His level of respect/commitment for the fundamentals and details of the game is incomparable to what the stars of today do. They look at the fancy stuff but the little things are what separate him. He fully respected everything he’s learned about the game from his beginnings.
@@johngriller4997 He worked on his craft the best
"That's what she said"
Now and days, Guards can get rebounds easily, due to more spacing and 3-point attempts but back then, they had to work harder for them.
@Michael Jordan 😏 Yes they did ✅
And back in those days, the big men were still dominant and guards mostly didn’t go into the paint area. These days, you have teammates helping stay pad by boxing out for guards to get the rebound.
@G C isnt that what they say about the 90s being harder?
Jordan also had a stretch when he played point guard and he averaged a triple double for 10 games in 1988-89. He switched between the two and one that season but still averaged 32, 8 and 8. If he had played PG the whole season he would have had Lebron like numbers.
All facts
Gary Payton probably is best defensive point guard in NBA.
He was giving MJ a hard time to position himself for the ball or down low.
Payton in my top 5 all time starting.
Gary Payton is the shit. Defensive specialist. Hersey was hittin!!!
Yeah. I remember this classic series. It was great.
The main change in the game from the 90's to today is how much power was taken away from defensive players.
Thank you. These nutt hugging mfers don’t wanna acknowledge that
Whatever it took to get the W, Mike would do it. Buzzer beaters, free throws, steals, circus shots, killer defense, 3-pointers, it didn't matter.
There will never be another MJ.
Hey look michael passed the ball then cut to the basket!
Unlike now when guys just stand around the 3 point line an jack up a shot.
Basketball today sucks!
sonny andreotte old head
Ok boomer
@@daris4k512 if thats your only argument, you must be one of these teenaged imbeciles.
And it goes in tho
MJ vs LeBron
This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more help
•Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals..
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
All of this accomplished in 13 seasons
Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago"
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did.
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career...
And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth.
Check Mate.
Thanx!
Dwight Caliao Excellent post! Facts!
Talk about that shay sharpe
I love you
Dwight Caliao dude I have no idea how some people compare. Every era will have a great player that stands out from rest. That doesn't mean that player is as good as MJ. Over the years, we've gone from Drexler to Grant Hill to Penny to Vince Carter to Kobe to Wade back to Kobe to LBJ to Steph Curry back to LBJ. It'll never end. But I don't mind cause the one constant in these comparisons will always be MJ. We're seeing that right now as Kobe now gets overlooked in favor of LBJ being compared to MJ. In a few years it'll be LBJ getting overlooked as the next NBA hot commodity gets compared to MJ.
You had to earn every points against this Sonics defense
Hawkins and Cummings, Chicago high school legends... Kemp from Elkhart, IN...right outside Chicago. I was blessed to grow up in the 90's in Illinois..best basketball in America during that time. And we got to watch Mike, every game.
Kendall Gill, Nick Anderson
I loved watching Bulls games in Indy on WGN channel 9
@@Silvereagledude I used to watch them on Metromedia 32, back in 83' when Orlando Woolridge was their star. Crazy how time flies.
@@kkbaby30 yes it certainly does
I want to make to note two things:
1. When three point shoots were a resource and not a way to just to score points.
2. Excellent defensive in both teams -maybe a lot of fouls even when hand checking was allowed- to the point in a overtime game, none team scored more than 100 points.
Joshi that’s not true. Players were thinking about percentages.. Hawkins shot most of 3s on Sonics team because they knew his % was higher than others. Today, everybody just shoot 3s no matter the % because “math”....
Joshi you think you can shoot 3s good if there is handchecking? also there are no defensive 3 second violation those day that means you should highly risk your body for a penetration to the basket. these all give affects on your shooting. you should acknowledge that the rules changed the game of basketball
Lol....MJ had damn-near the whole roster wearing the Air Jordans.
theloverswineverytime 😂😂😂
:D :)
The real NBA....when effort was given in the defensive side of the ball.
how do we get this back..
BRING BACK HAND CHECKING PLEASE
if you actually watch today's games you will see effort on defense. Just because we see more high scoring games doesn't mean players are not playing defense. The rules have changed to allow for more freedom and creativity on offense which makes it tougher to defend today. The pace of the game is much faster now, way more possessions per game, more shot attempts, more 3pt shot attempts which equals way higher point totals. Lastly, today's players are highly skilled and more athletic than ever which also makes it tough to defend. There is definitely a larger pool of talent today. Don't get me wrong I love the 90s I grew up watching these guys. But its not fair to say that no one plays defense today
@@rohandandapani5030 Okay. Now compare the old and new all star games.
Michael Jordan had all the time in the world to do whatever he wanted to on the court...God I miss 90s NBA...
we all do ...
We’ll go back to the 90s gtfoh
@@leekman4833 sit down child
@@aadil.harbhajun go back to the 90s with your depressing ass lol 🤡
@@aadil.harbhajun go back to the 90s with your depressing ass lol 🤡
wait I thought lebron fans said Jordan played weak guards?
LeBradford Smith scored 43 points on MJ.
Google
Media narrative
@@theloverswineverytime1625 Jordan score 50 on lebradford Smith
@@theloverswineverytime1625
6"2 Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in the 2011 Finals.
@@theloverswineverytime1625
So he had a good night.
If you don't see the difference in physicality between now and then... you just don't see it (and this is softer than 80s and early 90s)
Dillon Freed I see aggressive defense in this video...unlike today...
@SHANESE bro the defense today and the calls the make for fouls are pathetic and bullshit especially on the stars
@@vinnywhall4824 just because players u don’t like are getting calls doesn’t mean the defense is terrible. Offense is just way better than back in the day.
@@hellfearstrys that’s the problem Jordan was getting the same calls lmao people so one sided
@@hellfearstrys That's a lie we don't like them cuz they are soft like LEFLOP ASKINF THE LEAGUE TO TAKE AWAY THE PHISICAL DEFENZE AND STILL WINNES LIKE A BABY SO STOP IT TODAY IS NOT BETTER IS SOFT SO STOP THE LIES.
The sonics always gave the bulls a rough time on the court
nah, it was easy mode for Chicago
@@WOLFMANF14DFIGHTER Wrong ❌ Basti Pain was right ✅
@@MisterTurner-ex1fv my friend that was the Utah Jazz, the bulls steam roll the 64 win team sonics
Horse****. The Bulls absolutely steamrolled the Sonics in the 96 finals. They won the first three games easily. The league wanted a longer series to make more $$, and so the refs handed Seattle a couple of wins before allowing the Bulls to win game six. The Sonics were totally outmatched.
@@WOLFMANF14DFIGHTER -Yeah Yeah, but they still lost to them twice in thee old NBA Finals. And so basically that does not mean that much at all, no offence.
78-78 goes to overtime
tough defense
big boys era
0:42 jordan almost jumped over kemp, he made sure if kemp jumped he was still getting smashed down, 4:30 beautiful the way he split their defense
ashtonjackfanny almost jumped over him?
@@majestyarchives16 hang time shot
And Kemp was a beast.
Seattle needs a NBA team, been way to long without.
Never should've been without one
@@ChiknThighTatorPie FACTS!!!!
I’m sure okc will go back to Sonics soon .. juss to give their team some hype lol they trash rn 😂😂
Juss like how the bobcats did with the hornets
Gary payton man was very underrated
Hawkins was pure
Fundamental .. Just Fundamental is crazy.. And even when he aint score he still keep his efficiency in the game via defense, rebounds and off-ball plays. By the way this is the real defenses.. Not "hey why dont you try to shoot over me" type of defense of these days.
@SHANESE Dude team defenses and defense sets that put by Defensive Coaches of the team are more versatile and crafty Today's Basketball that's ok.
But frustrating side of the defense, defensive specialists, physical contact and trash talk (which is mental warfare part of the defense) was tougher back then.
That's why compare to back then we have less offensive superstars that can play defense as well.
Curry, Harden, Jokic, Doncic, Booker, Morant, LeBron (currently ), Trae Young, Westbrook, are all bad defenders.
Durant, Embid, Irving and some others questionable defenders.
Chris Paul, Siakam, Adebayo, Paul George, A.Davis, Tatum ok-ish defenders (their current versions).
Butler, Giannis, Kawhi are the only elite superstar defenders .
For back then Superstars had more load on defense. I mean imagine players like Barkley, Shaq as "bad" defenders in their primes ...
Compare to Harden, current LBJ, Trae Young, Curry, Doncic :D :D They're amazing defenders.
So yes now defense is more theoratical but back then "defense" and "physicality" was in the culture of basketball.
Now, shooting trees and avoiding contacts, flopping, traveling and scoring more points are.
@SHANESE Dude its been a month :D Idk even remember the argument let it go. And there aint any relevancy in your revent post about my previous post ? So there is no need for bumping this topic again. Good days.
Michael on the Last Dance special... :-) LOL I had no problem with the glove Gary Payton :-) LOL
Amazing game, amazing upload. Thanks!
@ 1:55 3/4 court no look pass from Jordan. I’m always finding something crazy from his games
Fun to watch. The Golden State Warriors of today wouldn't stand a chance against either of these teams...
Yes they would😂
@@r4veneye13 Depends on the rules
@@samuelsagarnadiez581 no it doesn't they both teams would be able to compete just fine
Dude what? Gs warriors would be running and gunning all game. These mfs knly play half court defense and they don't eve run the floor all that well ..
William Dockery yeah right, you got 3 guys on the Warriors who can put up 30 easily, plus a deep bench. Neither the Bulls or Sonics can matchup with the 2017 Warriors, arguably the greatest team ever.
Rematch of the 96 Finals
This regular season game is more tougher than final games today.
Says the non-baller
Payton my favourite PG of all time.
Sonics were like the fundamentally sound clippers with a cp aka gary with not plagued by injury an blake aka shawn kemp who ws a monster an great supportin cast of the 90s
Always loved the series of light-speed adjustments he makes at 4:29 on the catch just to squeeze through the defenders and get the ball out of traffic to get open for the shot (watch closely). Amazing awareness and reaction time. And they want to say someone is better than this guy? Please...
the crowd going absolutely bonkers... I am green from envy... what an excitement...
Payton actually was the all. Around best player on the floor with the stats shows you how good that Sonic's team was the bulls had to win on the last play bs foul 🍌
Hard nosed locked down defense. The intensity that they played with back then was real!
Young boys, pay attention. It's G.O.A.T. Season.
Damn! All the hand and arm checking above the paint so tough back then. Like playing post-up D at the perimeter. Not sure if today's stars could handle this.
gary payton would wished to face lebron in the finals, so he could solidify his legacy in the game of basketball
#ringsgiveaway
Nice game! Watching in the year 2020 March 20. Corona quarantine day 5
Jordan ,Pippen,Rodman vs GP and Shawn Kemp... Seattle needed a 3rd all star
Detlef Schrempf!!!
Rodman wasn’t a star
Jordan got hammered all game. IN today's game that would be 55-60 pts with all the extra FTs
Now that's defense
Game was much more physical back then!
This was a very competitive game. I Love how they battle back to back 3pts from Sonics and back to back Free Throws from Bulls.
Love the thumbnail both have their mouth open with a funny expression
If LBJ makes the pass at 1:53, LeBronites start talking nonsense about how he's a better passer than MJ. 1:53 clearly shows MJ makes those passes and then some, as MJ's here is even a no-look... and it's vs. a great defensive team too, not the young and inexperienced Celtic team LeTravel's Cavs are beating up on.
meg Jordan's pass game was surreal. The only problem is most of the time he didn't have teammates competent enough to capitalize on those sick dimes he was dropping.
Wont you motherfuckers just watch & enjoy an MJ-highlight vid without always bringing LeBron's name up in the comments. if LeBron will never ever ever ever ever be even close to MJ, Why tf yall keep givin' all this energy & emotion to the attention that you pay to him? Like, cmon...Ok, MJ was MJ. We know this. Enjoy HIS highlights (because its HIM that we're watching, Lebron nowhere in the vid) & move tf on.
Best player always took the last shot!!!!!
I'd love to see this 96 Sonics vs 92 Suns ... Kevin Johnson was something else! Kevin Johnson vs Gary Payton would have been exciting to see!
4:09 cracks me up each time I watch this bit LOL
I never heard Doc Rivers voice sounding so healthy.
Man Baker played great that first season in Seattle I know people missed Kemp but Seattle got a good deal in that trade and Vin and Shawn's carrier had a similar path as both failed to maintain after the lockout
Vin's first year was good I'll give you that, but after that first season he really started declining fast, baker went into all types of addictions and was a non factor. He got overpaid by Seattle.. and it was a huge mistake to let Kemp go, Seattle wasn't willing to pay him and that's messed up.
@@royceg3375 Kemp was going to get paid, he was mad Mcillvane got such a huge contract and demanded a trade before Seattle could restructure, Kemp was only good in Cleveland for one season just like Baker, Baker should have never got the extension when he did, but the actual trade was as good as a team can get after a star like Kemp publicly demanded the trade
@@chadalpha7983 I get you, I just really think Kemp wouldn't have went so downhill if he stayed in Seattle.
😂😂😂 Thumbnail arrow. Very appropriate.
Hershey Hawkins was bussin their asses
This that hardcore 90s defense everyone was talking bout ?☠️☠️☠️
Good defense. Both of them shot below 40%
Yeah the goat23 even pipen foul out Mj save the day Nice job. 😷🐂😋
What a game!
2:00 is as good a pass as a pass can get. No look length of the court.
Nba 2k24 Needs To Create 1996 1997 Chicago Bulls And Seattle Sonics Rosters For Playstation Xbox Nintendo
Teams were stacked back in the day...not like today
It was more evenly stacked back then. Prior to the currently postponed season, people were getting sick of the increasingly stacked Warriors.
This sonics team was stacked!!
The game looks much more physical than todays nba if I am being honest
I miss the glory days
Since 1996
Thanks for posting these games but how did the owner of this channel get all of these NBA licensed Jordan games?
And ladies and gentlemen you see why Gary Payton hates on Jordan he did that regularly to Peyton and everybody else
Michael drops 38
GP gets a 14 point triple double
Dumisa Tony Johnson and the game end up in a close one.... Not like these day lazy ass Kids who got blown out back to back game
Actually MJ got 32 on 10 for 28 shooting, with 8 TO's. Bulls won with BS foul call at the end of game.
I wish that NBA super stars nowadays could play against that defense.
I had no problem with the glove , I had other things on my mind..
he definitely did since this is the same GP from the 96 finals and he couldnt stop MJ in this game second time around
Free throw buzzer beater by mj
All hawk had to do was give it back to the inbounder mcmillian for a wide open 3 at the buzzer
Kicks1981 35 truth!
So... Basically Glove could stop Mike by preventing him the ball... But once he got the ball, there was nothing he could do to slow him down... Post game and drive and fadeaway all were hitting big time. MJs game had so many layers. The only way to slow him down is to deny him the ball and try to delay the entry pass by pressing and forcing him to get the ball late in the shot clock and then trap him
Bro mike lived at the free throw line in the 90s
Longley and Rodman seldom stop Kemp, Hawkins was killing it from perimeter, and Payton was a beast in both offense and defense. Not ro mention Pippen was ejected. Seattle was a better and complete team in this game, but in the end, Chicago have Jordan!
0:41 should i lay it up? or dunk.. hmmm
Payton was always my favorite
The best games..
Three players that was demons when they got hot was 1 Vinnie Johnson 2 Andrew Toney 3 Hersey Hawkins they were hard to stop*
Mike had no problems with The Glove.
Jordan knew he played like crap after game 3 of 96 finals. So he drops 45 and this game to make up for it. Goat
7:20 what a bail by the refs
I take Julius Erving / Michael Jordan any day but then again don't mind me I take Holyfield over Tyson Joe Frazier over Muhammad Ali
4:06 classic Dennis Rodman, always finding a way to get under people's skin
The did it without you Scottie!
I like this team more than 96
GP‼️
These games are all rigged. You can't even guard Jordan without a foul (7:20 - Nobody touched him).
Nah everyone gets touch fouls. If you are a scorer like MJ you would try to draw fouls and refs know that.. but if you talking about ridiculous fouls nba today is the worst.. it's almost unwatchable to me how soft and often these fouls are called.. cough cough James Harden would've shot 20 freethrows in this video.
my eyes hurt
They should cept tha name Seattle supersonic in tha nba yo word
The goat Michael Jeffrey Jordan
MJ superstar call in the end smh
How about games 4,5,6 of the 96 finals? MJ shot 37% (rounded up) with Payton as his main defender.
Eddie Bowles First of all dumb ass when Michael came back from baseball he was not the same Michael Jordan he wasn’t as good as he once was fool
Eric Walter, did I say he was exactly the same moron? No. I did not even bring up the difference between before and after baseball.
Sounds to me like you are making excuses for why Payton was able to hold him to 37%. "wah wah he was not the same" lol keep crying.
Eric Watler yes, he was. MJ came back he was rusty that’s all. When he came back they won 70-something games.
Seattle was a very physical team but I think mj shot poorly mainly cause mentally he was back in finals and it was like learning to win again. It was in his head not because of the defenders in other words.
Payton did a good job of slowing MJ down and frustrate him...
Payton bricked his free throw and jordan swished em both end of story
I Guess MJ can't win without Scottie huh... Oooooo okay never mind
Bro 2:32 would definitely be an offensive foul on mj in todays bullshyt reffing
Imagine if these cats had Twitter
Is it Doc Rivers commentating?
MJ vs GP W