Feel free to ask me anything in the comment section below! There is 1 Specific Rotation for Firefly to 0 cycles at E0S0 without Ruan Mei (1 cost 0c). I'm still farming for that - Hopefully I can do it before this MoC is gone :X
@@zerayoutube half-half. I would gladly watch and learn the idea. As for if the clear is 100% legit for the community or not, that's completely different story. I would always judge by the relic they used tbh. One that reachable is ok. One that unreachable is... well I don't recommend anyone to go to PS btw. But if you want to try, do it at your own risk.
Gallagher tech actually helps me close out the missing damage haha . I was at 1% on wave 1 so many times and I don't want to pull spoiler build for next weejio.
Yall have to keep in mind how heavy of a shill this moc is lmao. It gives 30 be per trotter killed and 15% atk and killing a trotter gives a whole action adv? So essentially her e2. Ruan mei really should be a priority if you got ff.
Yep, she will perform worse if there's no trotter in here. I'd still recommend ruan mei if you actually want to play her. But if god and luck all turn your back to you, and you have no jade left, then you can come back and watch this!
@@DONT-MIND-MY-PROFILE-PICTURE most of the time, prioritised selling. This MOC favored by FF and Acheron, but FF benefits it more, since puppets in second side is pretty easy to break, with trotter giving you additional action.
Very nice! I love watching showcases like this when, some content creators say you absolutely need a certain character for another character to function. Don't worry if you have Firefly and no Ruan Mei, yes Asta is weaker but still more than enough to clear any content.
4:32 it's because Argenti would not be able to buff one of his towers? He could buff the one that gives dmg boost or the one that deals damage, defeating one of those with the buff would give more damage buff for the team or deal more damage to Argenti
Not really, even if he not buffing tower it's still ok. It is his tower and his movement related here. I'll give the answer on next reply but you can guess 1 more time!
when firefly's banner arrived, someone asked me on discord "does firefly is still good without ruan mei? 'cuz i don't have her in my account". my answer was "well, ruan mei is in a peak meta rn and you've already know the damage gap. you can still use her with asta, don't forget hmc. i can't make the video to proof it 'cuz i didn't build asta but i'm sure that firefly will works well with her". your video has proofed my theory and i amazed that you can clear moc 12 with 2 turns on the first half and 1 turn on the second half. well done!!! 😄
Thank you for your video. Im still new to the game (3 weeks into HSR actually). I don’t understand the difference between normal break and then double break that you managed to pull off so beautifully in your video. Does proc-ing double break help increase firefly break dmg more than single break? 🙏
Procing double break helps your dps up by quite a lot. Normally you would deal break damage (which don't proc a superbreak) then next turn you proc a superbreak. By compress this to one action, you actually get 200k more damage within 1 break period, pr if you play ruanmei - you can one shot anything below 600k hp really easily!
I wonder if its really worth leveling up Quid pro Quo and losing some of gallagher's personal damage when you already have him situated on his "signsture" break effect lightcone.. 🤔
Personally i use multiplication, but i find i can get gallager past 150 break effect with mc so its probably more optimal but it depends on how willing u are to grind another light cone
If you can end in 1 combustion state then qpq is not needed. However if you need second combustion state. The different between get FF ult back in 1 skill vs 2 skill is instantly 1 cycle diff, no matter how hard ff or gallagher hit.
16:47 Wouldn't it be more beneficial to use Gallagher's ult after HMC? HMC is only 1AV after Gallagher, and such order would result in 5 SP on Asta's turn instead of 4.
Even though I have Ruan mei, I've been using Firefly without her because I can still easily clear everything. Maybe once the moc buff goes away I'll have to use RM, but for now she is fun with just Asta.
I kinda prefer Gui since i have to move Ruan Mei for other team, she like Pela but for heavy fire content 😊. Did a comfortable 2 cycle run in second moc12 half too so im happy.
8:50 wouldn't it have been better to break the left guy? that way you could wait for Asta turn and then BA the middle one so firefly could break everyone in her first turn and in the second do extra damage because of the increased damage that enemies take when all the 3 are broken.
The actual mistake is I should use firefly skill into leftmost guy, then gall basic left guy, ult, basic left guy to break. That way I can close out the fight slightly faster! Great observation tho :D
It's cool and big brain and all but damn, watching FF's damage without RM even with the trotter buff is painful, please just roll for RM instead of E1/S1 folks🗿
The damage itself is not that bad. But the break time is a real pain. Even with trotter buff, you might notice that I try to either break right after enemy move/within enemy's turn, or I just set up a double break to compensate for break period loss from no ruanmei. In the future after no more trotter buff, firefly without ruanmei will be extremely hard to play, or even unplayable.
I have a question, hehe! I went for Boothill and I'm interested if he can deal a good amount of damage (with proper planars and stats, ofc!) with this team (Firefly replaced by him)! Will the rotation be the same?
Pela scale better with your firefly's relic ; aka if you can get her speed and BE high enough then pela is better. Otherwise asta is better because asta allows you to gt more turn between each break session.
I need some advice. I only have 1 Memory of the Past S5, Dance dance dance S1 and Meshing Cogs. So which one do you think is better for HMC and Ruan Mei. I'm currently using M.o.t.P for HMC and Meshing cogs for Mei. As I know Mei's traces increases team break by a fixed amount of 20%, so does it means that Mei in Firefly team dont have to build break and her dmg bonus buff doesnt affect the break dmg. Instead, HMC's traces increase team break% by his own break%. Tks for helping!
Run the cogs on ruan mei and motp on harmony mc Ruan mei do need break effect too because of her trace that gives a buff that scales on her break effect (i forgot what it gives) But harmony mc needs the break effect more than her
DDD mei is fine but mind that her Ult downtime will be super long. so I don't recommend it. and yes - in HMC team you shoudl focus on HMC gear quality first. ruan mei can use leftover gear - she'll get enough BE from HMC passive anyway and even if ti's not enough. it does nothing to FF team. Tl:DR : cog on mei motp on hmc. focus gear on hmc, ruanmei use leftover
@@RuriGoko okay tks for the explanation. I'll try out yout team comp. I got confused cuz in many vid, they build break on both Ruan Mei and HMC. So yah I was wondering is it necessary to build her.
Not in the slightest. Firefly benefit nothing from tdm%. But if it's your best spd sub piece, then that set is ok especially because it give 5 er for user.
When enemy has a really low break bar left, and your character deals multiple hit and break the enemy before their attack string ends, the remaining attack toughness value will be converted to superbreak damage - this allow you to deal both break and superbreak damage at once - hence called double break damage!
@RuriGoko luckily I mostly play her in sim uni so her damage will always be super inflated no matter what. hoyo will release another break buffer and I'll just use them once they come out. meta changes and ruan mei will be dethroned one day. until then I stay on my hater train
I feel like having ruan mei is a requirement for ff to work really well 🫠, especially if you're a f2p player, even then i feel like my firefly looks useless if i don't have rm 😔
@@RuriGokoSo happy I snagged rm this banner don't have anything left to get FF but don't really need her since I have the Cowboy and he is a BEAST with ruan mei
Feel free to ask me anything in the comment section below!
There is 1 Specific Rotation for Firefly to 0 cycles at E0S0 without Ruan Mei (1 cost 0c). I'm still farming for that - Hopefully I can do it before this MoC is gone :X
I hope you can do it, someone need to stop the hate
Do u think
Crit SPD FireDmg Er
Is good on Iron Cavalry 4pc + Kalpagni 2pc Gallagher for long runs (Battles 700 AV long)
curious whats your thought on 0cycle youtuber who use private servers?
@@namelessunnamed6544 I would prioritize spd a lot more. Gall base atk is extremely bad so crit gall is super niche. And it's not worth in spb team.
@@zerayoutube half-half. I would gladly watch and learn the idea. As for if the clear is 100% legit for the community or not, that's completely different story.
I would always judge by the relic they used tbh. One that reachable is ok. One that unreachable is... well
I don't recommend anyone to go to PS btw. But if you want to try, do it at your own risk.
16:50 very satisfying sync with gallagher's attack and the music lol
Glad you like it!
Nice runs! Starting with Gallagher's technique is really smart!
Gallagher tech actually helps me close out the missing damage haha . I was at 1% on wave 1 so many times and I don't want to pull spoiler build for next weejio.
Wow...There are two youtubers that I subscribe👍👍👍
You're the best! I always try to follow your strategies to improve my own decision-making :) thanks for always experimenting teams and clearing MoC!
Glad I was able to help!
Yo I think youre the best Star Rail CC out there and I love that you mainly use chinese voice over. I thinks its highly underrated
Yo thank you for your compliment! And yeah cn va for this game is pretty goated!
Yall have to keep in mind how heavy of a shill this moc is lmao. It gives 30 be per trotter killed and 15% atk and killing a trotter gives a whole action adv? So essentially her e2. Ruan mei really should be a priority if you got ff.
so AS is also a huge shill also, riiiiiight
Yep, she will perform worse if there's no trotter in here. I'd still recommend ruan mei if you actually want to play her. But if god and luck all turn your back to you, and you have no jade left, then you can come back and watch this!
Even with 700 be i cant feel that much damage with e0s0 no ruan mei, its just sad af😑
What's a shill
@@DONT-MIND-MY-PROFILE-PICTURE most of the time, prioritised selling. This MOC favored by FF and Acheron, but FF benefits it more, since puppets in second side is pretty easy to break, with trotter giving you additional action.
Thank you so much for making a firefly without ruan mei guide ❤
FF without ruan mei is still damn strong. But ff without harmony main is like Gordon Ramsay without swearing... Something is missing.
More like half of it is missing lol.
My friend literally asked me yesterday who can they use if they dont have Ruan Mei you read my mind :0 gonna send them this ^^
Show them!
Very nice! I love watching showcases like this when, some content creators say you absolutely need a certain character for another character to function. Don't worry if you have Firefly and no Ruan Mei, yes Asta is weaker but still more than enough to clear any content.
Thank you for your compliment :D
4:32 it's because Argenti would not be able to buff one of his towers? He could buff the one that gives dmg boost or the one that deals damage, defeating one of those with the buff would give more damage buff for the team or deal more damage to Argenti
Not really, even if he not buffing tower it's still ok. It is his tower and his movement related here. I'll give the answer on next reply but you can guess 1 more time!
@@RuriGoko Ig its because the shield tower is on the next turn so you hit it first, so you wouldnt miss a dmg on argenti while he was broken longer
@@RuriGoko and breaking with firefly means a lot more of damage on argenti than asta
when firefly's banner arrived, someone asked me on discord "does firefly is still good without ruan mei? 'cuz i don't have her in my account". my answer was "well, ruan mei is in a peak meta rn and you've already know the damage gap. you can still use her with asta, don't forget hmc. i can't make the video to proof it 'cuz i didn't build asta but i'm sure that firefly will works well with her". your video has proofed my theory and i amazed that you can clear moc 12 with 2 turns on the first half and 1 turn on the second half. well done!!! 😄
Yo Glad my video helps bro!
171 spd asta and 159 spd, 273 break HMC with 4 pc watch maker is pure madness….
I can do 198 asta btw lol.
HMC is gonna have a lot of break, because talia and break rope. And we have 3 patch to camp watchmaker.
@@RuriGoko LOL, I dont even have a messager set that have an average of 6 spd. Aways get bad luck on the relics.
Thank you for your video. Im still new to the game (3 weeks into HSR actually). I don’t understand the difference between normal break and then double break that you managed to pull off so beautifully in your video. Does proc-ing double break help increase firefly break dmg more than single break? 🙏
Procing double break helps your dps up by quite a lot. Normally you would deal break damage (which don't proc a superbreak) then next turn you proc a superbreak. By compress this to one action, you actually get 200k more damage within 1 break period, pr if you play ruanmei - you can one shot anything below 600k hp really easily!
W transition
She just jump into battlefield lol.
ruri goko with the 500 IQ plays once again
Gotta maximize everything lol
Nice, although i want to see other mocs too but I'm guessing it'll roughly take 3 cycles which is awesome for a full f2p team tbh except Firefly.
Full potential should be 1 cycle clear. But that relic is way too unrelatable to obtain so I put this out first!
Honestly, as long as she has HMC, she probably gonna be fine, but Ruan Mei does work so well with Firefly, that Ruan Mei is like a requirement for me.
I'd still recommend ruan mei over asta. You can compare with my Ff 0c video and see how huge the gap is.
I wonder if its really worth leveling up Quid pro Quo and losing some of gallagher's personal damage when you already have him situated on his "signsture" break effect lightcone.. 🤔
Personally i use multiplication, but i find i can get gallager past 150 break effect with mc so its probably more optimal but it depends on how willing u are to grind another light cone
If you can end in 1 combustion state then qpq is not needed. However if you need second combustion state. The different between get FF ult back in 1 skill vs 2 skill is instantly 1 cycle diff, no matter how hard ff or gallagher hit.
16:47 Wouldn't it be more beneficial to use Gallagher's ult after HMC? HMC is only 1AV after Gallagher, and such order would result in 5 SP on Asta's turn instead of 4.
Yes - it would result in +1SP overall - I actually ignore that coz it won't affect the run anyway haha..
Even though I have Ruan mei, I've been using Firefly without her because I can still easily clear everything. Maybe once the moc buff goes away I'll have to use RM, but for now she is fun with just Asta.
More variety is always good - keep you from bored with her team comp!
Cinema 2,awesome good work
Thank you!
Don’t break argenti because more energy for firefly so she can insta ult
thanks for the vid. makes me think it's fine to just use Asta.
Well I still wish you the best of luck for ruanmei. but if you can't get her then yeah!
Smart way to use galla but what is his planar sphere?:)
Anything that give speed and be. He's so tanky it doesn't matter.
I kinda prefer Gui since i have to move Ruan Mei for other team, she like Pela but for heavy fire content 😊. Did a comfortable 2 cycle run in second moc12 half too so im happy.
She does perform if you know what you're doing. But it's not a team that you can turn off brain in the future that's for sure.
can ff combo with sparkle? my mean she can crit damage in superbreak?😅
You can't crit dmg in superbreak
8:50 wouldn't it have been better to break the left guy? that way you could wait for Asta turn and then BA the middle one so firefly could break everyone in her first turn and in the second do extra damage because of the increased damage that enemies take when all the 3 are broken.
The actual mistake is I should use firefly skill into leftmost guy, then gall basic left guy, ult, basic left guy to break. That way I can close out the fight slightly faster!
Great observation tho :D
Theres a Planar Ornament thats called "Penacony, Land of the Dreams" is it better to use it on asta for 10% dmg boost for the team?😅
Dmg boost doesnt do anything for super break
If you want something for her, put fleet or just put the same planar as firefly.
was "clean-up time" a reference to john lennon's posthumous song??
That was.. super old holy.
It's a good song tho.
It's cool and big brain and all but damn, watching FF's damage without RM even with the trotter buff is painful, please just roll for RM instead of E1/S1 folks🗿
Yeah if you compare this to my ff+rm video you'll get that immediately.
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Yo you're first :D
Well there is technically is still a problem with the damage and breaking time. This MOC favors FF so much you might not see big dif yet
The damage itself is not that bad. But the break time is a real pain. Even with trotter buff, you might notice that I try to either break right after enemy move/within enemy's turn, or I just set up a double break to compensate for break period loss from no ruanmei.
In the future after no more trotter buff, firefly without ruanmei will be extremely hard to play, or even unplayable.
@@RuriGoko Without RuanMei FF is bad but not unplayable. Take away HMC though and she'll be Arlan tier
NICR!!!!
those substat rolls on firefly wow
That was a day 1 roll. And I'm hiding the unrelatable build under my rug haha.
I have a question, hehe! I went for Boothill and I'm interested if he can deal a good amount of damage (with proper planars and stats, ofc!) with this team (Firefly replaced by him)! Will the rotation be the same?
Pela would be better than asta if you play boothill, and boothill will deal more than firefly in equal situation.
I replace Ruan Mei with himeko … anyone did the same thing as me??
In pure fiction yes. Himeko replace either gall or rm is viable :D
hi ruri how comparable is firefly HMC gallagher pela team in relation to the team in this video?
Pela variant scale better with your gear quality. lower floor higher ceiling. if your pela is super well built (160 wind or 170+) then yes
What do you think of Pela instead of Asta? I heard she’s better, but is it only a spreadsheet thing and Asta is better in real situations?
Pela scale better with your firefly's relic ; aka if you can get her speed and BE high enough then pela is better. Otherwise asta is better because asta allows you to gt more turn between each break session.
You move your cursor so cleanly omg how do you do that
Buy G pro mate hahahahaha.
I played osu. that's prob why
Does 24%dmg increase from aeon work for superbreak. also the res pen from ruan mei
dmg increase does not work with firefly, Res pen does tho.
Xolze: impossible…
Despite her being super toxic against firefly, I think she might pull off a 0 cycles with her at 1 cost soon.
@@RuriGokoright? I feel that too! but she just hates Firefly too much ig.
I need some advice. I only have 1 Memory of the Past S5, Dance dance dance S1 and Meshing Cogs. So which one do you think is better for HMC and Ruan Mei. I'm currently using M.o.t.P for HMC and Meshing cogs for Mei.
As I know Mei's traces increases team break by a fixed amount of 20%, so does it means that Mei in Firefly team dont have to build break and her dmg bonus buff doesnt affect the break dmg. Instead, HMC's traces increase team break% by his own break%.
Tks for helping!
Run the cogs on ruan mei and motp on harmony mc
Ruan mei do need break effect too because of her trace that gives a buff that scales on her break effect (i forgot what it gives)
But harmony mc needs the break effect more than her
Forgot to mention
Whenever you break an enemy ruan mei deals dmg to the same enemy base on her break
DDD mei is fine but mind that her Ult downtime will be super long. so I don't recommend it.
and yes - in HMC team you shoudl focus on HMC gear quality first. ruan mei can use leftover gear - she'll get enough BE from HMC passive anyway and even if ti's not enough. it does nothing to FF team.
Tl:DR : cog on mei motp on hmc. focus gear on hmc, ruanmei use leftover
@@RuriGoko okay tks for the explanation. I'll try out yout team comp. I got confused cuz in many vid, they build break on both Ruan Mei and HMC. So yah I was wondering is it necessary to build her.
Me with RM watching this video:
“I see.”
Rm enjoyer I see.
I am too dw.
Firefly lovers HANDS UP!!!
Hands up!!
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what if i dont have dance dance dance for asta
go meshing cog :D
Should I build fire damage bonus instead of ATK
Nonoo fire dmg bonus does not scale with her! Even a 0 substat atk orb will do better!
So why u don't brake the boss? And why u did "double break" dmg? 🙂
Eh is a quiz haha. But if you already know it's gucci!
Can i use robin?
so she is decently balanced without ruan mei , and becomes absolutly broken with her
Her performance will drop a bit after this version. but yeah
4:30 is it because of the shield from the tower?
There is 1 more thing here but shield is partly correct :D
Does the penacony relic works with ff? I kinda wanna give it to my asta or gallagher
no
Not in the slightest. Firefly benefit nothing from tdm%. But if it's your best spd sub piece, then that set is ok especially because it give 5 er for user.
@@Bos_Meong oh
@@RuriGoko I see TYSM!!
Will Hanya better than Asta for this run?
Average gear they goes about the same
But if you have access to wind set, pela is the best in that slot.
@@RuriGoko hmmm I see. Tysm
what is double break pls elaborate
When enemy has a really low break bar left, and your character deals multiple hit and break the enemy before their attack string ends, the remaining attack toughness value will be converted to superbreak damage - this allow you to deal both break and superbreak damage at once - hence called double break damage!
Do you think none ddd asta can 3 cycles argenti 🤧
Yeah 3 cycle should be easy :D
Is it bad to use tingyun instead of asta?
It is pretty bad yeah.. if you want energy better sub gall out and get huohuo in. Even then it is still worse than qpq gall.
@@RuriGoko I see, thanks a lot.
do it with out MC, its gonna be harder than ruan mei
Critfly inc haha.
What's QPQ?
Quid Pro Quo, 4-star LC with Bailu's image from MoC shop and EoW drop
certified Ruan Mei anti so using Firefly without Ruan Mei is the norm for me. Shes pretty fun regardless
Well be sure to farm up your team. Not running rm would be rough esp after moc stop buffing her.
@RuriGoko luckily I mostly play her in sim uni so her damage will always be super inflated no matter what. hoyo will release another break buffer and I'll just use them once they come out. meta changes and ruan mei will be dethroned one day. until then I stay on my hater train
@@quietlywhispering I found a fellow Ruanmei hater 🤝
@@Ikaretayaroudaze 🤝🫂
@@quietlywhispering well that’s how gacha game works anw haha
MC 5* star.🗿
Haiya don't break the couple!
"MOC 12" FF's MOC, try in the next MOC hahahaha
TB is 5 stars....
Remove harmony mc from firefly’s team… might as well remove firefly’s herself hahaha.
-50% damage lmaoo
It actually -100% effective damage btw, because enemy break time is almost halved...
I feel like having ruan mei is a requirement for ff to work really well 🫠, especially if you're a f2p player, even then i feel like my firefly looks useless if i don't have rm 😔
This is just for people who are extremely unfortunate and somehow get ff but not rm. if you have rm. use her!
@@RuriGokoSo happy I snagged rm this banner don't have anything left to get FF but don't really need her since I have the Cowboy and he is a BEAST with ruan mei