"No parent should have to burry their child." I definitely think he would have been a great king. But he more importantly would have been able to bring back his father from the brink. Probably a reincarnation of Helm Hammerhand himself. Would love to have seen him at the charge of Pelennor fields, take down orcs and men of the east, and even get married and seeing the crowning of Aragorn. Sigh. 💔
“He was strong in life. His spirit will find its way to the halls of your fathers.”-Gandalf the White. Never knew he had so much backstory. Pleasantly surprised by the new logo as well. The style reminds me of the Norse sagas that inspired the Legendarium.
Your lesson from this story reminds me of my mom, who passed away earlier this week. Untimely and unnatural, and so unfair, but in mourning we owe it to our loved ones past and present to carry the torch that is passed to us. Thank you for another meaningful video Yoystan, and I look forward to tuning in again next week. Kudos to Raffe for your new thumbnail.
A most interesting chronicle of yet another hero of Arda, like many great warriors of Rohan Prince Théodred understood and accepted that the protection of his people demanded the most labor and sacrifice.
No parent should ever have to bury their child, his father burying him reminds me of Alfonso burying his own heir and living years after the fact consumed by grief. It also reminds me of Andromache in the Greek Myths burying Astyanax her son by Hector. Truly, though Theodred would have made a great King, thank heavens Rohan still had Eomer as a spare heir. Thankfully Theoden did not long outlive his son and instead died as his son did; valiantly ere he went to join him.
I wonder that Wormtongue got as far as he did insinuating himself into Theoden's councils with Theodred alive. Perhaps Theodred's death prevented a too-early attack on Isengard that would have prevented a decimated Rohan from arriving at the Pelennor Fields, and helping Aragorn to choose the Paths of the Dead.
It's not really gone into in depth but I imagine Theodred was pretty badass. He was like Eomer's big brother, and someone the future King of the Mark really looked up to. Grimbold was a bad ass too, rallying his forces in the retreat from the Fords of Isen, and fighting and falling like a true valiant G on the Pelennor fields.
I dig the new logo too, reminds me of the upcoming animated film about the Rohirrim. A most ill tragedy that Theodred was cut down while young and not able to succeed his father and prove he was equally a great hero & king of his People.
Thank you for making this video. I learned something things I didn’t know about these events. One of my favorite minor characters so so glad to see this!
In The Two Towers film, Theodred is portrayed younger than he was in the book. His death is a major event early in the movie, whereas, in the book, it has all happened by the time the Three Hunters come to Rohan. He is brought heavily wounded albeit barely alive to Edoras and tended by Eowyn before dying. His burial is shown in the extended edition. Theodred was played by Paris Howe Strewe.
@@phajthoj : Theoden was an ordinary man. Not a pure Numenorean like Aragorn or even a less pure one like Denethor. And he was up against the most powerful of the 5 wizards - Saruman the White. Also, his closest advisor, Grima Wormtongue, was a traitor and was actually poisoning the king - not with lethal poisons but with ones designed to weaken his body and weaken his willpower. So it’s not surprising that he fell under Saruman’s evil mind control spell.
I think a video on what if Théodred survived the battles at the Fords of Isen and played a bigger role in the War of the Ring would be an interesting one.
Amazing video as always, I love the story of Theodred. He’s possibly one of my favourite characters from Rohan. I’m so glad you enjoy the logo too! It was so fun to design and seriously appreciative to see my work up on your channel🙏☺️☺️
Hello Yoystan I really like this video as I was always fascinated by Theodreds history and I feel like a, “What if,” video you could do is if he survived the attack from the Uruk hai. For me it wouldn’t change that much at most it’d just include another fierce warrior on the side of Rohan but I’d like to hear your thoughts.
Tolkien decided to kill Theodred for the story. Events would definitely be different for Rohan if he survived. It made King Theoden a more tragic character in the final book.
I have a “what if” video topic suggestion: What if Frodo didn’t have the mithril shirt and died in Moria? Perhaps Sam would be the new ring bearer, or would the Fellowship’s quarrel get them all killed?
I do like the new logo. I think its a little less Gondor, and a little more Rohan. Reminds me of a family crest that you would get from someone who left Gondor and formed a new house in Rohan. Bringing the crest of the citadel with them, but adopting many of the aspects of Rohan.
Great content as always. Here is a great soundtrack for a future video: ruclips.net/video/Q21sr60ox0A/видео.html I think it would especially fit a topic related to the first age.
Man, Théodred you and Boromir would have done so much, but you guys were killed too soon! I think Théodred would have been another elder brother to Eowyn with Eomer in the early days of Eowyn, growing up with Boys...I know what's that like!!! Thanks, Mellon for Théodred ECH, Until Why Men can't go to Valinor... *Is reason called: The Trio of Ar-Pharazôn + Sauron + Numenoreans* Marion Baggins Out!!!!
Is there really much info about his exploits before arriving back at Helm's Deep. I have seen Tolkien's stories of the first and second Battles of the Fords of Isen, but there really was no description as to where Erkenbrand was with all his men. If he was on his way to the fords, then why didn't he attack the army from Isengard? Did he see the army was too big and moved aside to follow after them?
Can you cover the history of any of the following (listed in order of how much I want to see them) Goblin Town Lake town Dale Iron Hills Grey Mountains Blue Mountains Linden Ossiriland
Question: If The Rings of Power fundamentally change the narrative, characters and indeed the legendarium, will your upload s reflect the new or the old?
Do you think since Sauron has a physical body do you think he would be able to reproduce And have children and if he did how powerful do you think the child would be
I think it is possible although other than Melian none of the Valar or Maiar are known to have had offspring. As to how powerful they would be, a lot would depend on the other parent. I have my own private theory that Morgoth used Sauron to create dragons as Sauron was particularly known for his shapeshifting abilities; this would help explain why dragons are so intelligent and powerful. But it's just my theory; I've never run across anything in the Legendarium to support it.
"No parent should have to burry their child."
I definitely think he would have been a great king. But he more importantly would have been able to bring back his father from the brink. Probably a reincarnation of Helm Hammerhand himself. Would love to have seen him at the charge of Pelennor fields, take down orcs and men of the east, and even get married and seeing the crowning of Aragorn. Sigh. 💔
Theoden raised his son well, even though it sadly came to a swift end.
Théoden
"No parent should have to bury their child."
Good afternoon Yoystan! Always good to see another upload. New logo is legit!
“He was strong in life. His spirit will find its way to the halls of your fathers.”-Gandalf the White.
Never knew he had so much backstory.
Pleasantly surprised by the new logo as well. The style reminds me of the Norse sagas that inspired the Legendarium.
Your lesson from this story reminds me of my mom, who passed away earlier this week. Untimely and unnatural, and so unfair, but in mourning we owe it to our loved ones past and present to carry the torch that is passed to us.
Thank you for another meaningful video Yoystan, and I look forward to tuning in again next week. Kudos to Raffe for your new thumbnail.
I'm so sorry for your loss Tom
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Tom you have my sympathy. I know all too well what it's like
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@@MenoftheWest Thank you Yoystan ❤️
@@rondawiebe1505 Thank you Ronda ❤️
What I like about the new logo is that it looks like a mix between Bilbo's door with Rohan and Gondor designs.
You nailed it in one sentence! Glad you enjoy the design 🙏☺️
A most interesting chronicle of yet another hero of Arda, like many great warriors of Rohan Prince Théodred understood and accepted that the protection of his people demanded the most labor and sacrifice.
Just have to say I love the new logo! My Master Sauron would be pleased
Awesome to hear! It was so exciting to create this one for Yoystan ☺️
No parent should ever have to bury their child, his father burying him reminds me of Alfonso burying his own heir and living years after the fact consumed by grief. It also reminds me of Andromache in the Greek Myths burying Astyanax her son by Hector.
Truly, though Theodred would have made a great King, thank heavens Rohan still had Eomer as a spare heir. Thankfully Theoden did not long outlive his son and instead died as his son did; valiantly ere he went to join him.
I wonder that Wormtongue got as far as he did insinuating himself into Theoden's councils with Theodred alive.
Perhaps Theodred's death prevented a too-early attack on Isengard that would have prevented a decimated Rohan from arriving at the Pelennor Fields, and helping Aragorn to choose the Paths of the Dead.
I think Saruman had a great deal to do with that. Theoden was clearly under the influence of more than Grima's voice.
It's not really gone into in depth but I imagine Theodred was pretty badass. He was like Eomer's big brother, and someone the future King of the Mark really looked up to.
Grimbold was a bad ass too, rallying his forces in the retreat from the Fords of Isen, and fighting and falling like a true valiant G on the Pelennor fields.
I dig the new logo too, reminds me of the upcoming animated film about the Rohirrim.
A most ill tragedy that Theodred was cut down while young and not able to succeed his father and prove he was equally a great hero & king of his People.
I appreciate the feedback on the logo! Thank you ☺️
Another great video, Yoystan!
I started binging all your videos recently after a long time, and I was excited about the new logo
the quest in lotro where you ride with theodred is one of my favorites..
Thank you for making this video. I learned something things I didn’t know about these events. One of my favorite minor characters so so glad to see this!
In The Two Towers film, Theodred is portrayed younger than he was in the book. His death is a major event early in the movie, whereas, in the book, it has all happened by the time the Three Hunters come to Rohan. He is brought heavily wounded albeit barely alive to Edoras and tended by Eowyn before dying. His burial is shown in the extended edition. Theodred was played by Paris Howe Strewe.
Theoden: "No parent should have to bury their child"
Gandalf: "Theodred's death was your making"
“…none of your making.”
@@timonsolus depends if you blame theoden from being mind controlled by Saruman
@@phajthoj : Theoden was an ordinary man. Not a pure Numenorean like Aragorn or even a less pure one like Denethor. And he was up against the most powerful of the 5 wizards - Saruman the White. Also, his closest advisor, Grima Wormtongue, was a traitor and was actually poisoning the king - not with lethal poisons but with ones designed to weaken his body and weaken his willpower.
So it’s not surprising that he fell under Saruman’s evil mind control spell.
I think a video on what if Théodred survived the battles at the Fords of Isen and played a bigger role in the War of the Ring would be an interesting one.
It's a pity Theodred died so young and because of Isengard raiding Rohan all the time alongside the men of Dunland
Amazing video as always, I love the story of Theodred. He’s possibly one of my favourite characters from Rohan. I’m so glad you enjoy the logo too! It was so fun to design and seriously appreciative to see my work up on your channel🙏☺️☺️
Just game from LOTR FOTR at the Royal Albert Hall - still can’t get enough :) Great video!
Hello Yoystan I really like this video as I was always fascinated by Theodreds history and I feel like a, “What if,” video you could do is if he survived the attack from the Uruk hai. For me it wouldn’t change that much at most it’d just include another fierce warrior on the side of Rohan but I’d like to hear your thoughts.
Tolkien decided to kill Theodred for the story. Events would definitely be different for Rohan if he survived. It made King Theoden a more tragic character in the final book.
Perhaps if Theodred survived, perhaps Theodin would have also.
I have a “what if” video topic suggestion: What if Frodo didn’t have the mithril shirt and died in Moria? Perhaps Sam would be the new ring bearer, or would the Fellowship’s quarrel get them all killed?
This part of the tale in both the books and the movie always makes me tear up.
Logo is top tier
Awesome feedback, it a such a fun collaboration! ☺️
I do like the new logo. I think its a little less Gondor, and a little more Rohan. Reminds me of a family crest that you would get from someone who left Gondor and formed a new house in Rohan. Bringing the crest of the citadel with them, but adopting many of the aspects of Rohan.
Damn Yoyst...this is the stuff you do so well.
I can sort of keep up based on my knowledge, but props for your work tying it all together.
"No parent should have to bury their child."
Great content as always. Here is a great soundtrack for a future video: ruclips.net/video/Q21sr60ox0A/видео.html I think it would especially fit a topic related to the first age.
The screenshots from LOTRO are awesome! I own the same mount.
Yes logo is great
Great feedback! 🙏☺️
You should do a “what if bilbo hadn’t given up the ring?” video
Imagine at the Hornburg with Aragorn, Eomer, and Theodred. But would Theodred have wed Imrahil's daughter instead of Eomer? Hmm.
I am surprised he hadn't married before the War given his age. It wouldn't have worked in Tolkien's story though.
Man, Théodred you and Boromir would have done so much, but you guys were killed too soon!
I think Théodred would have been another elder brother to Eowyn with Eomer in the early days of Eowyn, growing up with Boys...I know what's that like!!!
Thanks, Mellon for Théodred ECH, Until Why Men can't go to Valinor... *Is reason called: The Trio of Ar-Pharazôn + Sauron + Numenoreans* Marion Baggins Out!!!!
Would love to see video about Erkenbrand
Is there really much info about his exploits before arriving back at Helm's Deep. I have seen Tolkien's stories of the first and second Battles of the Fords of Isen, but there really was no description as to where Erkenbrand was with all his men. If he was on his way to the fords, then why didn't he attack the army from Isengard? Did he see the army was too big and moved aside to follow after them?
Strange reason for liking Theodred: In a boardgame I got in the earl 80s (or was it late 70s?) the picture of Theodred was way cooler than Eomer's,
Amazing new profile picture!
So glad you enjoy it! I loved making it 😁
@@beaupreston9872 oh you made it! That’s so amazing you’re such a good artist!
Thanks so much!! It’s so nice seeing such great feedback ☺️
@@beaupreston9872 You keep getting great feedback because your work is amazing haha
recent subrscriber, love your channel
Theodred gets too little attention. As Boromir, Theodred died well.
Where is the first picture of the death of Théodred from?
This is why monarchs are supposed to have numerous children.
Can you cover the history of any of the following (listed in order of how much I want to see them)
Goblin Town
Lake town
Dale
Iron Hills
Grey Mountains
Blue Mountains
Linden
Ossiriland
What are your thoughts on the moria game?
2:53, why are the riders posed on railway tracks?
Yoystan.
Noble and true likely how father and cousins..
The king that never was...
Question: If The Rings of Power fundamentally change the narrative, characters and indeed the legendarium, will your upload s reflect the new or the old?
Theored son of theoden . Rest in the peace.
I just did a video of his dad Théoden king of Rohan go check it out
Interesting that perhaps Elfhild is the only example in Tolkien's corpus of a woman dying in childbirth.
Wha video game zrethose images from?
LOTRO
Wes Thu Hal, Theodred
He was strong in life! His spirit will find its way to the forge of your father’s!
Do you think since Sauron has a physical body do you think he would be able to reproduce
And have children and if he did how powerful do you think the child would be
Probably,melian did it.
As powerfull as luthien
I think it is possible although other than Melian none of the Valar or Maiar are known to have had offspring. As to how powerful they would be, a lot would depend on the other parent.
I have my own private theory that Morgoth used Sauron to create dragons as Sauron was particularly known for his shapeshifting abilities; this would help explain why dragons are so intelligent and powerful. But it's just my theory; I've never run across anything in the Legendarium to support it.
Westu hál
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