The Future of New World | Datamines and Speculation
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- I wanted to talk about what we know about the big Season 6 update that is coming to New World so far and if that update can change the trajectory of this game.
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0:00 Season 6 Update
1:42 Datamine Leak
3:58 Leaks timeline
5:06 What is the Endgame?
7:58 Educated Speculation
12:22 How to Reverse Course?
15:30 How to Fix War Situation
18:05 Overview
20:02 Temp Shutdown? 
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The true endgame in NW is running laps around town listening to music wondering what you should do
But your forgetting about getting toxic in opr 🤷♂️
@@kanebear12 true 😂
How many chest runs can you do before your brain melts?
Oh yes @@kanebear12opr full of exploits getting banged by a group of 10 holding hands 😂
They don't want hardcore fans. They want a revolving door and a steady stream of new players to dupe.
This.
Yup
Exactly, when everyone was requesting so many different features and fixes, they went ahead and added microtransactions. When the people begged for new OPR or PVP features, they added seasons. And while everyone was screaming for changes the game needed, they released an expansion. All cash grabs, like the upcoming console release. I don't see a bright future for a 3 year old MMO that lacks an end game and devs that actually care and listen to their community. This is now the Lord of the Rings waiting room for grifters and suckers.
At this point I feel nothing but betrayed. I have close to 5k hours into this game and every patch I hoped they finally fix stuff but all they think about is how they could lure more people into this sinkhole..
It's hard for players who've invested thousands of hours into a game to just quit. I had over 3k hours before I finally realized they don't care about what the players want. They use the numbers to point them into a direction they can milk the most money from their customers. They prioritize microtransactions, seasons and paid expansions over features and bug fixes. That should tell you all you need to know.
I have over 5k hours in game but I have no reason to log in anymore. I don't have anything to do in game.
I have +4k hours and i stoped when season 5 released, i have nothing to do in this game now, it was fun but now i will never comeback. 80% of the dev works on the other futur MMO Lotr. Thats why the game is dead. With season 5 there are between 5k and 8k players on the world.... Dont wast your time in NW in 2024 guys.
You have played this game for over 208 full days(24 hrs)... i would have to say that you got your moneies worth. @xeticus5435
cross server company vs company wars not tied to territory should be high prio. with a wager system and leaderboards. This'll keep people around for a while.
this is the best possible answer to solve the end game pvp 'dilemma' in NW imo. could even remove factions / territory system in its entirety for all i care. could even add 5v5, 10v10, 25v25 modes or something. it wouldn't solve all the issues with participation, but would be massive in getting more casual PVPers to stick around, and encourage a ton more competition and not have to deal with bullshit timers or influence pushes or anything.
The reason they are skipping all the big heavy coding changes that the game needs is because it's all interwoven into the source code and would take a major overhaul. I believe they have zero plans to do major changes, they are just milking the cash cow until Lord of the Rings is ready for another cash grab.
I was screaming for this and to remove factions when the game first came out. AGS doesn't care. The old leadership sank the ship. Everyone left is trying to correct coarse with a string and some buckets to navigate and get water out.
Ships already under-water. Without a major overhaul of how territories, wars, and end game work the games dead.
Spread out territory a bit, include a cargo transport style mission to carry goods from one town to another defending carts from other factions, these materials are incorporated into wars and used there. This would be a game loop I could get into. Supporting wars with real world gathering and supply drop offs that are at risk of pvp interruptions. Would bring people together of the same faction and add some meaning to the comradery.
Aoc is coming dude relax lol
@@moseidon946 you’re not wrong, but most games with this game loop I find enjoyable lol. Star Citizen for one
They could do an infinitely scaling arena against a variety of pve mobs that scales up with harder waves. With a leaderboard. Or invasions that scale past the end timer for more and more rewards.
They could add mmr/ranks to arenas. Or opr but not so much there.
They could do something like adding tertiary perks to gear for fun. Limit their power so it’s like a perk on lvl 1 gear, but as a 4th perk.
Idk I feel like there are a lot of options but they just aren’t doing them because their baseline tools for new world aren’t scalable
They could do a lot of things the community has suggested over 3 years, but they won't. It's partly because of their game engine and the lack of developers. Everything is outsourced which takes a longer turnaround and causes delays.
New OPR maps and modes (with at least an attempt to balance the teams) that have meaningful rewards could create an easily queueable and replayable endgame loop. How they continue to sleep on this is beyond me. The PvP island is a half assed attempt to appease the PvP community. What I'm proposing could do it, that island won't.
Honestly outside of Throne and Liberty there's GuildWars2 World vs. World pvp mode. Basically 3 factions battling over 4 maps with multiple capture objectives and each map can hold a few hundred players. Less stressful than a war in NW, but more rewarding becuase WvW has it's own legendary track for armor that does not require PvE to complete.
Can't say I'm a big fan of WvW in GW2, but it has its player base. Thinking about it, AGS could take a lot of features from GW2, add their spin on it and improve the game by a significant margin.
There is a lot of time gated content in GW2 and no one complains about that. Then again, GW2 has one of the nicest community I have ever seen in an online multiplayer game, NW is full of sweaty players
I'm pretty sure that the "survival end game" they are going for is the PvP zone that might be akin to the Dark Zone from the Division franchise. That would honestly provide a lot of content for people depending on how they go about it. Also would require some kind of balancing changes due to the current meta. Practice wars and the pvp zone would all be repeatable content without using too many assets.
Copium 😂
A darkzone wpuld be fucking great
I mean if it's as fun as greatcleave was I'd be down lol
@@mecr0wthe reason why great cleave was so fun was because of the new rewards. If there aren’t any new rewards then the new FFA zone will be dead in a week
tears in the chat. love this game and want it to succeed 😢
You must be new, wait until you reach the end game, oh wait, there isn't one.
@@gamezonereactions8388 2k hours in the game. Haven’t been playing much lately. But just because I don’t get endless content from it doesn’t negate the awesome experiences I’ve had leveling, playing PvP, and hanging out with my company
Hello, are you certain that Mournindale ll be transformed into new zone like First Light?:) 500 pvp + pve quests and 300 standing, gosh 😁
GC was fun but it was always going to last only a short time until we had all farmed the champs gear on the track which was new BIS pvp jewellery. Jewellery was crazy hard to get then and suddenly a source for pvp players to get BIS. Once that was obtained GC died and we went back to structured pvp OPR/wars again
"we don't like that we can't abuse mutations anymore to make gold" that's the player base for this game right there. They could add a limit of 30K gold per week on mutations. As for better loot, what exactly is BIS loot? With the way they nerf perks and named items every 3 months, there is no BIS loot anymore
Would be cool if practice wars either A. had a company ranking ladder, or B. allowed us as a community to create our own but allow for cross-server warring. These company war tier lists by streamers are a fun way to see how your company stacks up, but we're all silo'd so we rarely get to actually see who is in what company. It would also maybe reduce the amount of merc/alts because if you can war any company on any server and try to rank up, why not just war with the same company over and over? Might not actually solve the problems, or even it may create more. But could be a cool bonus for the PVP community to actually have a reason to play for a single company and grind
I really hope it's Company v Company and not just FFA. FFA basically takes away every build except 3 or 4 of them.
tbh I'm looking forward to the ffa zone if its done correctly and is rewarding. I really hope this comes with an endgame rework which is probably the most likely thing to come
Ffa means that groups of ranged will ally against others xddd
@@acybercena89 Easy ways to counter that such as an engagement lock to 1v1s so third party damage isn't registered. I wouldn't expect AGS to come up with that idea specifically but they will defiantly have some form of counter measures.
Oh hey you’re in my server! I’m syndicate. I heard dropouts and was like oh hey! Lok
Lol sweet!
OPR is fun as solo as long as u dont match against a musket squad. Or any squad and most of the times all premade squad end up on one team idk why!
lvl 70 maybe? Big raid boss in the FFA zone?
i dont see you guys talking about lord of the rings, aren't they working on it as well? isn't that the reason why they aren't making a lot of progress in new world?
I've been told a very small subset of AGS is working on it (5 people pulled from NW team) but that seems pretty conservative
FFA is S7 not S6. Ocean Mind and other one are scrapped imo.
FFA zone should be a WVW type mode like in GW2.
i still wonder what their big announcement for june will be
Console release for a new batch of gullible kids, to steal their milk money. (mom)
@@gamezonereactions8388 imagine being this bitter about a game
The end game for NW is LoTRO mmw
They killed the crafting and dungeon drop economic loops. It's just wars and time-gated crafting now.
New OPR map , an hour long 20 person raid, rank based match making, and maybe a new zone would atleast give some content. These guys are too worried about console to care about the actual game - hence everyone quit. At this point I'm not sure everyone wants to come back for a 2nd or 3rd time at this point. Everyone's basically sitting on the side playing other games til like Ashes comes out.
Game died for me when they took M10 farming away. I liked farming M10 for gear to sell/umbrals to sell but now everything is BOP ... no point anymore. My entire economy broke overnight. If your server is high pop you cant farm mats within reason. Game is just poorly designed and theres no way to fix it. It will always eventually die no matter what they do with it unless they completely overhaul the entire game.
yea there's not a real purpose for pve endgame now tbh
Alot of the "datamined" info you have on here is things that were scrapped. They have completely separate servers to test up and coming things so it can't be data mined
Opr could be a lot better if premade squad wouldnt always stack on 1 team.
Yeah arena is still a joke. Queues got better after merge for me on Kronos but solo is still a coinflip, duo is a stomp every game and trio is usually dead but if you do find a game it's a stomp too. Was hoping some good trios would come over from Nyx but so far found exactly one team that didn't lose 3-0 every time
Why would they not make a new OPR map? “Listening to the players”😅
They need to change the way war is done. It shoulnd'T be on a timer
Personally excited for free for all combat zone. I feel bad attacking people in the open world.
You can still party up via Discord and coordinate in a friendly fire type of dynamic.
I mean it may be a lot of fun I just hope the rewards are decent
Yeah, and that's one of the many reasons why an FFA PvP zone is awful. xD Team based combat is way funner, and FFA doesn't really solve grouping. They should just make it faction based, and make it where factions with lower numbers get a buff or something.
this game needs to look at what works for other mmo's and copy the best of them and call it good
100% im just gonna annoy everyone and be a healer in the ffa area LOL
need a full on war mode, could go a few less people 45 or 40 a team. Doesn't have to be the same war and same forts either. AGs just being lazy on the pvp
They have made the game less grindy, because of the casuals complaining and because of that people finish the content so fast, there is nothing too do. People can have a lengthy end game with some grinding, or no end game because grinding is removed. When they introduced the level cap of 65, you could get tehre in one day, that's insane! It should have been a minimum of a week to get to level 65 and that's if you're playing 8 hours a day. The mobs need to be harder, the experience needs to take longer and the drop chance for new items need to be no higher than 10%. It's how so many mmo's keep people busy with new content and the people that want it will do it, they may complain but that's the rule of thumb. This is an MMO now, so we can't think of it as a PVP survival game. It needs that grind and more intricate systems, everything is just so basic, it becomes mind numbingly easy to get everything finished. Better boss mechanics, things that take communication and precision otherwise you party wipe. Areas that scale the mobs off of the party or raid they're still easier than soloing, but difficult enough to eat up time (AION did this very well). They need an open area for PVP but it needs to be more than just pvp xp. Territory control needs ot be removed, it waqs not implemented well and just frustrates people. The potential is there, but I just think the games direction was changed so late in the process, the code was not built in a smart way to allow things to adapt. When LOTR or AOC releases, that will most likely be the nail in the coffin for NW.
Bummer. I'm not big into high fantasy concepts which is why I appreciated New World's colonial era of the Americas theme with historical references of real cultures from around the world. Everyone plays as a human. Sure, there's monsters and whatever but there's a separation from the everyday life of humans. LoTR will have all the typical fantasy races and concepts which honestly bores the shit outta people like me lol.
why the fuck wont they listen and work with their consumers
It doesn't generate the most money. Adding microtransactions, seasons and paid expansions does. They've never cared about the community, just their wallets.
@@gamezonereactions8388 theyve never listened from day one, and its echoed to its final faults to come
I was talking about this years ago, but war smurfs killed war content for everyone. All AGS had to do when smurfs started to see the light of day was to limit 1 character per acc access to wars. Easy fix
All those war smurfs are on multiple accounts dog. They needed practice wars years ago.
@@thezikaz Not many of em have multiple accounts, kid. You dont know anything. And if there was too many of em , well AGS could just IP lock wars, or use phone numbers.
@@bonbarmandrink IP lock your customers who paid for the product hmm sounds illegal to me. Anyways have a nice day!
@@bonbarmandrink Im watching your VODs and im not impressed my guy. I have 6k hours, i've run multiple companies across legacy and fresh start servers, set m10 speedrun records, I have the top 10 OPR skin and every tradeskill maxed. I invented schizto and bruiser builds. I singlehandedly won everfall in the great struggle of '22. and i also secksed your mom last night.
@@bonbarmandrink1. I have 4 steam accounts with new world to war on 2. This is the wrong solution. The reason people make alts is because they really enjoy the content, but it’s at the expense of other players. If they added practice wars it would negate the need for alts and would fix 98% of the problem with wars. If you punish the players then you piss off the war community and everyone still gets no content.
Ffa means that groups of ranged will ally against others xddd
Wars are content for maybe 10% if even
Alright thanks for letting us know that there's no real reason to come back
As everyone is complaining about console companies forcing them to agree that they don't own their games, AGS wants to push towards console gaming.
I'm a pvp player and the end game is wars. We now have fewer servers which means a lot of fewer wars. And without being able to regularly get into wars I don't have a reason to play. OPR's are stale and arenas don't pop. There is no content for me.
Yep, which is why I question reducing server capacity to 2 servers on the biggest regions while cross world activities exist
@@mecr0w It is very frustrating as I have never head a good answer as to why we could not get a new OPR map or practice wars. Practice wars would have retained so many players over time. Also streamers could stream practice wars. Free advertising for the game.
Remake invasion for end game
Invasions should happen in a city, just instance it and have random mobs trying to wreck the town. If you fail that town should be inaccessible (except your inventory) for a week. It should be the ultimate pve end game where the world is kind of wrecked a bit if you fail
Is mecrow hot? Does he lift?
5.4k peak players bro... its over
If its only a FFA area, i dont think it will be enough. Especialy since all range weapons have been broken for years, its going to be full of griefers shooting at you 200 feets away
I've consistently heard people ask for 10v10 CTF and OPR visual/balance update. Ive never heard someone ask for FFA island.
@@thezikaz Yep. Team combat is by FAR the most popular. They're crazy if they think people want FFA.
Tbh i dont think anything interesting is going to be announced in June. They are just testing new tec for LOTR. Getting closer to servers shutting down
Azoth kiln ruined gear progression.
Game is done, sadly. They either dont want to fix the game, or, are so incompetent that it makes them look like they dont want to fix it.
There is no real reason to not make and OPR map, it is as simple as copy pasting a place in the world and instancing it, like wars.
Then, if you argue the engine is the problem that prevents adding new content, we have the balance problem.
That I bet is as simple as weekly, or bi weekly, slowly tweaking some numbers to make PvP not feel as stale and boring.
I think the new batch of console players they are betting on are getting educated by the people in the comment sections. But, they have to fight through the content grift from the last few still hanging on.
Pistols please
Future of nw is servers closing down boys
They are dropping like flies on hot doo doo right now.
save the skill and delete this cookies
There is no future, it was all a beta test this whole time. Just drop it, game didn't work at any point in time, it won't work in future
Salty dog
Exactly, if they can't get it right by now, then when? They can't even make a new OPR map that half the community has been begging for for 3 years. They've lost most of their best players and now all that's left are noobs and bots.
Micro, what new world needs to do is go the route of Albion online when you die in the open world you lose some of your shit make crafting items, much easier and make it actually profitable for crafters and gathers and people that PVP literally if they went, this route, New World would be the best MMO right now. It would be a little more hard-core but if I’m being honest, that’s how Albion is and Albion has a crazy crazy following.
I think loot in general has to be less BOP than it is now... it's so annoying
Game was not made for players by for content creators 😂😂
🙋 *Promo sm*
So basically nothing to bring old players back and nothing to keep nee players more than a few months.
Pants on Head studios…
Also “wars” are not endgame.
They’re the same group of sweaty Fks playing each other on their alts.
Game is dead. Just unplug life support and let it die
The end game for new world is the same as any mmo. Doing dungeons; over, and over, and over. Half ass PVP. Mutated is just a gimped mythic. This has all the end game as any other.
Games dead
Think so now yea gonna be sub 5k within a month
@@mecr0w I stopped playing a while back. Tried to jump back in to do wars and OPR and it was a nightmare. Now I need to purchase an expansion just to play how I want to play, which completely takes away all drive to jump back in.
If I could A) Jump in and get to wars and not-shit OPR and B) Not have to buy the DLC just to play through the gameplay I want. I might jump back in.
But AGS isn't about that life. They don't develop around people coming and going as they please. They develop around people no-lifeing the game full time and people just can't do that sustainably. Real life gets in the way. Only hard core players can no-life sustainably. Which is an extremely small segment of the population.
They want casual players, but develop for grind. It's nonsensical.
dev teams are grifters nothing more