I got the 2023 FX SVHO Limited only because I like to have the newest and show off, I'm fat and old so anything helps. Other than that, I agree, you do not need the Bluetooth and all that stuff.
An equal and even bigger problem than the fuel gauge, is the trip odometer. It resets automatically every time you turn the ski off. When I'm going 120+ mile trips I like to keep track of distance traveled and fuel consumed so I can continue to better plan these long rides and not worry about running short on gas. Yamaha doesn't seem to care about updating problems and satisfying existing customers just pumping out more skis and higher sales numbers.
Gelcoat has to be applied in the mould before the fibreglass/SMC gets laid down. It's a more time-consuming and (I'm guessing) probably more costly process. SMC gets stamped out of a machine so it would probably be much harder to do it that way. The advantage of paint is that it's easy to change colours and you can therefore do multiple colours for a given model. I just wish Yamaha would use a better quality paint (as the owner of a 2019 EXR - I LOVE the choice of colour, but I don't love how the footwell has bubbled due to poor painting technique in the footwells where water sits). One other point - Yamaha uses a US-based labour force. It probably costs more than Sea-Doo's labour force which is in Mexico. And gelcoat is more labour intensive. Paint is applied by robot. Labour cost (Sea-Doo) vs capital cost (Yamaha)
PWC JetSki Sea Doo , JetSki GP 1800 Yamaha and JetSki Kawasaki Ultra 310 L - X 5 is covered fullfiberglass with no sparked water into your face went riding .
@@watercraftjournal did both the VX and FX switch in 22? I read a blog somewhere that suggested only the FX switch in 22. Do you think the 22 FX has a better hull than a 18 fx? Im looking at a 22 and 18
I look at all this extra electronic frou-frou stuff as just more headaches that I will have to work on in the years to come when it goes junk. Paying for pain I don't want to begin with.
@@khalilkenouche2063 Its very difficult to delaminate an smc hull compared to the nana. But it can happen to either, its just much less likely to happen with smc.
If we will be having to drive the ski up onto a port should I skip getting a used 2018 FX with nanotech hull??? What would be the best waverunner to get to use with a drive on port and in heavy chop?
went out twice with new fx cruiser ho, didnt beach it, and somehow have light scratches directly in the middle of the hull. this paint is shit. hopefully they gel coat in the future!
He's usually a simp for the manufactures but he kind of isn't in this video and as he says an a-hole to consumers and riders. I've struggled to like his product for years...this doesn't help. Guess he's from the f-your feelings crowd.
Main thing I detest is that we have to pay more for our PWCs so that the tourists can have their bluetooth gadgets and doo-dads. If a PWC is going to be $500-1000 cheaper by not having a full infotainment system, I'd take it. Just a fuel gauge, tacho, error code display and speedo plus F/N/R indicator is enough for me (and trim indicator, if you have that too). However the people spending the money are asking for all this stuff so I guess that's why the manufacturers are providing it...
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I got the 2023 FX SVHO Limited only because I like to have the newest and show off, I'm fat and old so anything helps. Other than that, I agree, you do not need the Bluetooth and all that stuff.
Step 1 is acknowledging there's a problem. LOL
Im getting my GP1800R SVHO and GP1800 HO tomorrow. LFG!!!!
Mate, I'm envious. I bet you're excited - good luck and enjoy! Just make sure you use an anchor and try not to run up the beach with them OK!
Bro you’ll be in love got my 22 and all the sea doos on the river I stand out … I love it
Oh the nano2 cell. Good luck 👍
Gatorglide it
I’ll keep my 1996 Yamaha WVT1100 with no tech and a fiberglass and gelcoat hull- that thing is bulletproof.
Are the 2025 VX models still use nanocell. Or do they use the SMC too?
An equal and even bigger problem than the fuel gauge, is the trip odometer. It resets automatically every time you turn the ski off. When I'm going 120+ mile trips I like to keep track of distance traveled and fuel consumed so I can continue to better plan these long rides and not worry about running short on gas. Yamaha doesn't seem to care about updating problems and satisfying existing customers just pumping out more skis and higher sales numbers.
Why don’t they use gel coat? Weight?
I literally have NO idea. It would've allowed them to keep Nano2 on the FX's and solve all of these delaminating issues.
Gelcoat has to be applied in the mould before the fibreglass/SMC gets laid down. It's a more time-consuming and (I'm guessing) probably more costly process. SMC gets stamped out of a machine so it would probably be much harder to do it that way. The advantage of paint is that it's easy to change colours and you can therefore do multiple colours for a given model. I just wish Yamaha would use a better quality paint (as the owner of a 2019 EXR - I LOVE the choice of colour, but I don't love how the footwell has bubbled due to poor painting technique in the footwells where water sits).
One other point - Yamaha uses a US-based labour force. It probably costs more than Sea-Doo's labour force which is in Mexico. And gelcoat is more labour intensive. Paint is applied by robot. Labour cost (Sea-Doo) vs capital cost (Yamaha)
PWC JetSki Sea Doo , JetSki GP 1800 Yamaha and JetSki Kawasaki Ultra 310 L - X 5 is covered fullfiberglass with no sparked water into your face went riding .
The first thing I did last weekend on the lake was turn Bluetooth off.
What year model did the VX and FX ditch the namo and move to the SMC hull? Im looking at used skis and would rather get a SMC than Nano.
2022
@@watercraftjournal did both the VX and FX switch in 22? I read a blog somewhere that suggested only the FX switch in 22. Do you think the 22 FX has a better hull than a 18 fx? Im looking at a 22 and 18
I look at all this extra electronic frou-frou stuff as just more headaches that I will have to work on in the years to come when it goes junk. Paying for pain I don't want to begin with.
Hi kevin i have a question if you dont mind. New yamaha Jetskis whit smc can deliminate ? (sorry for my bad english)
Nearly every failure has been due to the owner. There are plenty of Nano2 hulls with zero problems.
@@watercraftjournal thanks for the answer 😊. For my information 2022 2023 fx can delaminate ?
@@khalilkenouche2063
Its very difficult to delaminate an smc hull compared to the nana. But it can happen to either, its just much less likely to happen with smc.
If we will be having to drive the ski up onto a port should I skip getting a used 2018 FX with nanotech hull??? What would be the best waverunner to get to use with a drive on port and in heavy chop?
@@stephenwhite5444
The 2018 should be fine, put some Gator Glide on the bottom for some peace of mind.
went out twice with new fx cruiser ho, didnt beach it, and somehow have light scratches directly in the middle of the hull. this paint is shit. hopefully they gel coat in the future!
It’s no wonder Yamaha hates you … you dog them every chance you get 😅 … not saying you’re wrong using car paint on the Hull is ridiculous
Really?! Go back and listen to my Top 3 video. Every one has issues, I just am honest and that rubs you because you’re defensive of your purchase.
@@watercraftjournal I literally just said I agree with you about the hull .. who ever is running this page has a Pms issue calm down dude lol
He's usually a simp for the manufactures but he kind of isn't in this video and as he says an a-hole to consumers and riders. I've struggled to like his product for years...this doesn't help. Guess he's from the f-your feelings crowd.
Main thing I detest is that we have to pay more for our PWCs so that the tourists can have their bluetooth gadgets and doo-dads.
If a PWC is going to be $500-1000 cheaper by not having a full infotainment system, I'd take it. Just a fuel gauge, tacho, error code display and speedo plus F/N/R indicator is enough for me (and trim indicator, if you have that too). However the people spending the money are asking for all this stuff so I guess that's why the manufacturers are providing it...