What about the Rapture? QA 27th April 2016, Ron Matsen, Chuck Missler
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2016
- This week, Ron Matsen speaks with Chuck Missler about this preposterous belief. Is the Rapture something that is BIBLICAL? Has the Rapture happened already? What should we be watching for? Will the Body of Christ REALLY skip out on God's wrath?
This was recorded on the 27th of April 2016. If you would like to watch these sessions LIVE, please go to tv.khouse.org God Bless
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CORRECTIONS: The Graphic that states "7 Raptures" and has Reference Genesis 5:42 should actually be Genesis 5:22. Thank you for your understanding and continued support!
I found Chuck's videos by grand design only 3 months ago, I watch every one I can find, I can't describe the fondness and sincere appreciation I feel for This Brother,💕I love his calm and direct style of teaching, and how he makes God's word just POP out there in Revelation and Truth, My heart felt so sad when I found a comment stating he had gone home to be with our Heavenly Father💔💔💔But I am comforted knowing I will see him ❤️❤️🙏
I have just discovered him in quarentine time and so much appreciate him. When I discovered Derek Prince : same thing.... I think I have heard all his studies. Praise God for both their lives. Also, Francise Frangipane's Christ likeness
Courses are very deep.
I've read in the Bible that you're supposed to rejoice when someone dies and to mourn when a baby is born.
Has anyone else read this?
No coincidence that you found his teachings. He changed my life forever. In Christ name.
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Psalm 127:3 ESV
Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.
James 1:17 ESV
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.
Matthew 19:14 ESV
But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”
Psalm 127:3-5 ESV
Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one's youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.
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Matthew 2:18 ESV
“A voice was heard in Ramah, weeping and loud lamentation, Rachel weeping for her children; she refused to be comforted, because they are no more.”
2 Corinthians 1:3-4 ESV
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.
Isaiah 41:10 ESV
Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
*though we are comforted by our FATHER, we will still weep and mourn for our relatives who pass away. But we also rejoice that they are reunited with our Lord.
Matthew 5:4 ESV
“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Ron, you lend very kind assistance to our precious Dr. Missler. Thank you.
I pretend Chuck Missler was my dad. Like if I went through certain things in life when I listen to his messages it would help me
Yes they are very good together in the Lord♥️🌹♥️
I love how Ron interacts with Chuck. He is so respectful. You can see him listening intently to Chuck.
Yea there very good manners at trying to let each speech freely and. Not interrupt each other they excited to help and teach others .to be informed is great , I. Sure to teach people is also exciting and gives a inner happiness feeling ,, thanks for the motivation too..
I totally agree
Chuck passed in 2018.
Born 1934. Listen to the eldery. They know a thing or two. Blessings to all, whom, heed his teachings.
💕And, love one another, the greatist commandment.💞
RIP Pastor Chuck, you were a GIANT, loved by so many, helped so many including me as a young Bible College Student,his tapes ( yes no cds back then) were a must
It’s sad that he’s physical body won’t see it come.. but his consciousness will.. Jesus will not resurrect.. he will be reincarnated.. grow up like all of us.. rapture is for only those who uses his name to control and enslave humanity..
@@SN1987A where did you come up with this delusion
Jasper Stephen's the same place where you got yours..
But mine is a bit classy.. compare to yours.
Look at yourself..
A lot of things to do.. and yet I found u digging my garbage on comment section 😂😂
And being an authority figure 😂😂😂
How much you get paid? What’s the qualifications of your profession?
Have you ever get paid?
😭😭
I can talk to you all day about my delusions..
while going around the world.. can you? 💩
Jesus is coming soon. Get ready everyone!
Soon, soon, soon! Maranatha!
Who would look at the world now and.recognise it...good is.called evil and evil good. And every day the birth pangd come.faster.and.faster
The falling away has to happen first and there will be Tribulation... The sun and the moon have to go dark as well (not a scheduled eclipse).
Many will be surprised when they have to wait and perserve.. The Rapture will happen when the Abomination that makes Desolate is revealed... A lot will be put to death.. How strong is your love of Jesus Christ??
Hmmm.. Peter??
Feed My Sheep.
@@Alec_Cox if ur Israelite you are a sheep. Body of Christ is not sheep.
@@PinoyMusicRevolution
You don't make any sense.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ through John says otherwise. Also, King David says that you don't know what you're talking about. *All who believe in Jesus Christ are the Bride but we are also "SHEEP"* -
Jesus Christ is the Shepherd. YAHWEH-ROHI [yah-way-roh-hee]: "The Lord Our Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1) - After David pondered his relationship as a shepherd to his sheep, he realized that was exactly the relationship God had with him, and so he declares, “Yahweh-Rohi is my Shepherd. I shall not want”
John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd (Jesus Christ).
Chuck Missler was one of the preachers who galvanized my belief and was truly a hero among men for his studying, diligence and ability to speak directly to the soul R.I.P You are and always will be one of the biggest influences that started my walk and I hope to bring many more people with me, I never did just believe what you told me- but I listened and sought it out for myself because of you. God bless
Michael Walden 💯💯
Same för me.
I live in Sweden. Our pastors teach very little from the bible. I found Chuck Missler now in coronatimes. What a blessing.
I listen to him every day.
I now read the bible with New eyes, looking at every word.
Thank you Chuck för everything. Looking forward to meet you......
Jesus is coming soon.
@@favoritsvarmor Chuck Missler through God was who made me turn my life around. I began questioning things, started critically thinking about the world at large and started questioning what I wanted out of life or rather what God wanted for me out of life. I used to care about nothing, I was a monstrous person with nothing but hatred to show for my 18 years of life. Chuck Misslers message on the book of Daniel made me realize I am a lot of things but a monster isn't one of them I felt like I should be married, have kids and now I run a fairly successful business and my needs are always supplied. I can't even remember the person I used to be so much like paul, i've wronged no man because i've repented to the Father.
Chuck truly took Christ command serious. Make disciples of every nation. And he did just that. That’s why we’re all here.
God's word is so amazing!!! Read it every single day and you will not be disappointed. Praise Jesus!
I just love brother Chuck Missler, he has been a teacher and an inspiration for me in my walk through the Bible, - I thank you for all the work you have put in to spread the good news and help us with biblical insights, i'm sure I'm not alone in this as you have inspired many,
Peace and blessings be upon you in Jesus' name.
I love these brothers. I’m thankful to God for raising up such excellent teachers.
Mr Missler "Chuck" is and has been such a blessing to so many people. I just recalled how many letters I received from Nan and Chuck while I was in prison. been out for 23 years now. but they have shown so much brotherly love in Christ that nobody would know of. I'd sent a letter asking for a study and guess I shared some of my testimony and Nan sent the study and wrote a personal note of encouragement, and Lisa their daughter sent me pictures from Israel. all I can say is that it lifted me up for them to even bother to write. God Bless you all In Christ Peace !!!
@cran brisbane Thank you, I did not know until many years after I'd been befriended by the Missler that Nan had lost her only son, and when I discovered this I was extremely glad that I deliberately treated her like the mother I never had. we serve a wonderful Savior, and He is The God of all comfort. The Lord bless you cran.
@@fogstreet108 what a great story man.. Im so glad to hear u made the change n turned to christ!
@@bravefastrabbit770 Yes, "and turning, I was turned" by God's grace always.
Chuck Missler was such a great teacher and man of God. I am so grateful for His life. May He rest in Christ’s embrace
What a blessing to listen to such wisdom from Chuck Missler.
Mr.Matsen I want to thank you sir for being there with Chuck Missler, I can see the friendship that you had with him, and your keeping the KHouse going for all of us who have grown to love and respect you and Chuck, praise God for all of the work that is available for us
Agree
By this time, Missler looked as if his 80's, yet his great Mind still was full of The Word of God! R.I.P.
Ron I love the way you interact with Chuck, you never intrude him, you show him respect , I admire you for that. I wish I could talk to you.
In the end times there will be a famine, but not of bread. Teaching like this from Chuck and Ron is preciously rare. Thanks guys !!!!!
Amos 8:11
Lexicon I have pondered- after taking our unlimited access to God's Word for granted- what will it be like when it will be impossible to find an uncorrupted Bible- to read and listen to teachers of God's Word. Now is the time to hoard this Bread. Uncorrupted Bibles and Bible study materials will likely soon be gone. We need to be preppring and stockpiling our spiritual food for these dark days- regardless of when is the Tribulation.
Not a food famine but a famine for the word of God. The flood will not be of water, but of lies. Look a the MSM these days.
Revelation 6:6 says otherwise.
Blessed to be a believer. Blessed to hear this message. Jesus is collecting His bride soon.
Praise God! Thankyou Chuck for even more understanding, why would God put his children through the trib ? We are not appointed to wrath. And He says to comfort each other with these words! Thanks for the comfort . God Bless you both!
What is Wrath? And why do great all over the world have tribulations even loose their lives, But go scotch free ? My beloved Sister, if We are not here for the tribulations so be it, BUT that's not in the bible ,sorry
fosterstraker Exactly Pretrib is good but we better be able to endure like Jesus said .
Todd -- The Bible says otherwise.
+Lukewarmnomore if there is no escape or rapture why does Jesus himself tell us to pray that we may be found worthy to ESCAPE the wrath to come? Also, the bible says as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be, and also the days of lot... in both instances there were people who were saved or moved Before the harm came. There is no condemnation in Christ. We have already been judged, Jesus took our punishment. We have a hope. and if it be that I have misunderstood I will still have My Hope.
In Noah's day the wicked were taken and destroyed the righteous endured and made through. God way of doing things has never removed His people from harm. He has always said trust in me and I will see you through. All through the old testament he made Israel and Daniel the lions den, 40 years in the wilderness. Why now would we ever think he is going to rapture his people from danger. Where's the faith in that?
Then if everyone is raptured to heaven to be with God isn't Jesus the life and resurrection?
No resurrection if your are raptured up to heaven and what about your sins. Oh Jesus just takes us up transforms us without being judged? Doesn't make sense.
It's a wonderful idea and it makes for great book and movie. But to me it reads like the DaVinci code.
Potter's wheel we must be broken to be used by God. This whole raptured to heaven when God created us as earthly creatures. Just doesn't make good sense to me. Sounds like the easy way out that Satan's teaching Christians to keep us off guard and unprepared for the great tribulations. What a surprise huh. Just saying what if.
Oh don't worry about it I won't have to endure anything I'll be raptured up long before that. Surprise. Your weak faith will get you killed. Be prepared just like the Christians that were fed to the lions or be headed or burned in Caesars garden for torchlight. Beware. It is a blessing for those who endure and persecuted for my name sake.
I am the light and the resurrection. One holds his life dear shall lose it. Live your life as a living sacrifice dying each day so you may have life everlasting.
Now that sounds more like the God I have learned to love and respect.
How about you?
Love this teaching and look forward to the coming of our SAVIOUR for HIS bride.
I consider me as wellstudied in The Holy Bible. Saved at the age of 32. Went to fulltime 2-year Bibleschool at 37. Seen miracles from prayer.. I love Jesus with all of my heart and I am a willing witness of Chuck Missler´s Godgiven ministry. Every time I watch his teaching I´m blessed. If you can; pray for Dr. Missler. He lost his dear wife a couple of years ago, short after moving to New Zeeland. Thank you Jesus for Chuck Missler! Bless him on all sides.
Did not know that. Will add that aspect to my prayers for Dr. Missler.
cafecentrat Please explain... why do you say "liar...rejected?"
cafecentrat123 Nut..
He is wrong. Rapure will happen at the end of tribulations when Jesus comes.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
FINALLY!! SOMEONE relates Isaiah 26:19-21 to the Rapture!!!! THANK YOU Chuck and Ron! I've been waiting for someone credible as yourselves, to say just what you're saying here. This verse seems to elude Rapture teachings of many great Bible teachers.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
You made my day! I'm so thankful to God for you and all your wonderful teachings. God Bless!
+John Schum But it also doesn't mean your view is correct. Knowledge would increase at the time of the end....Daniel. The mystery is that the 2nd coming is in two phases and it makes perfect sense when one studies and understands the 70 weeks of Daniel. "Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth. I am coming quickly, hold fast what you have, in order that no one take your crown." Revelation 3:10, 11
@@Vindicated333 I would like to believe in pre-trib rapture, but the more I study Scripture, the more I begin to see that this may not be true.
Thank you from my heart Chuck and Ron. Glad you both are healed in Jesus name. You have taught me so much Chuck and now Ron. I cannot thank you enough. God bless you both
God bless you, Ron, for staying right with Chuck until the end of his days. Can't wait to see you guy's together again soon.
I'm so excited to hear them speak on Psalm 27:5 in reference to the rapture bc this is what convicted me that we wouldn't be here during The Tribulation and I've never heard anyone else make this connection before. Wow...
Me tooooo. I had been meditating on the rapture for a time and the Holy Spirit used Psalm 27 through a song….in Hebrew (I don’t even understand Hebrew) to speak to me on this!! Praise the Lord! He is so very good 🕊💙
I would really love to hear Chuck’s thoughts right now!
Glad to see you Ron. I have immense respect for what you do. Thank You Chuck also for all the teaching and help in understanding the scriptures. You are both and all of Koinonia House and Institute are always in my prayers.
I appreciate both of you gentlemen so much!! I never get tired of hearing this teaching. We hear so many opinions, but the one I'm going with is the one the Word gives us clearly. I can never reconcile the view that the believers, the children of God should be subject to His wrath. We are not appointed to wrath. God bless you both. Chuck, I have two very dear ones (my daughter and my brother) who have gone on before me - and I know you miss your dear wife so much. So it is especially wonderful to see how you continue on with your race - keeping your eyes on the prize while encouraging the rest of us in a mighty way. We shall all be together again real soon, in the place made just for us and with our Lord and Father. Oh happy Day!!
your kind words for Chuck are sincere and heartwarming. yes, we shall behold his glory together.
and Chuck will have a big ole pile of crowns. keep God smiling in satisfaction brother Missler.
God bless you as well 1955.
Sally C I appreciate that very much Sally. Chuck has earned his crowns. He must have spent untold numbers of hours in the Word and nearly as much sharing what he learned. God bless you too, Sally!
+Scarecrow22 And many of us see the wrath begin to be poured out at Seal 1 onward....Jesus, the Lamb, is directly intervening in the world to begin the judgments, as He is the only One worthy to do so. Amen
I enjoy listening about the rapture. I listen to preachers talking about it all the time. Gives me a warm happy feeling and it always lets me know this is world is not my home and Jesus is coming for me to take me home, if I don't die first
JESUS WILL TAKE YOU HOME EVEN IF YOU DIE FIRST.
Praise G-d
Barbara Bradley Scripture notes you must make it through the tribulation. The rapture will only happen after the 3.5years of tribulation as spoken of in Revelations
Cascadian Applications
Where does it say this in Revelation
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Nope
I love the patience and respect displayed here for Chuck Missler. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for all of the wonderful videos of Chuck Missler teaching about important verses in the Bible. They are so helpful in understanding the hard topics. What a great legacy he left us.
Thank you so much for your time and including all of us in this study with you guys. So glad to see you back Ron! God bless you all, in Jesus name.
thank you for the teaching...so good to see you again Ron....God bless you both
I love Chuck Missler. I have learned so very much listening to his teachings through the years. God bless you Chuck!!
God give me a double portion of chuck's knowledge in the name of jesus
Thanks Ron & Chuck for this great teaching. Maranatha!!!!
Thank you for sharing this with us! This has been a true blessing 🙏
Thank God for getting back to some wonderful teaching of our holy scriptures. We have so much missed Chuck's right hand man-Ron! We pray for you both; we appreciate your diligence in searching the scriptures and letting the Holy Spirit guide you-and us as well. We greatly consider you BOTH a blessing to our lives and give the Holy Spirit thanks and love for leading us to you.
GLAD YOUR BACK RON.
THANK YOU !
What a wise man, this man is imperfect can you imagine what it was like to speak to Jesus. I wish I knew a fraction of what he knows. Thank you.
I just love when Ron and Chuck take on one topic, and explain it really thoroughly. Sometimes Ron has comments and/or questions that really help me understand.
What a lovely hour spent! Thank you for all the wisdom and comfort. The queue in heaven, to thank dear Dr.Mìssler, will be huge!😊 God bless❤
You both are awesome. I found Chuck Missler about three years ago. I can't tell you how thankful I am too Dr. Mister and Ron Matsen for explaining so much of the Bible too me. I think about K house and pray for you all. God Bless.
I found this ...
Sounded sort of like snatch away by force
Ezekiel 13:20
“Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.”
King James Version (KJV)
Thank you gentlemen for this Q&A. It's always nice to listen to your perspective. It can keep the mind to ponder the mysteries of our Great Redeemer and His Word.
Love you Chuck! You have taught me many truths throughout the years. What a great man of God you are. Your Love for the Lord melts my heart, as I Love Him dearly as well.
Thanks for this...Chuck is such a wise man of GOD! Both men here" , I pray to have this much wisdom through my study time and time with the Lord
I'm waiting for God's Son from Heaven, whom He raised from the dead--Yahshua, who rescued us from the coming wrath. (1 Thessalonians 1:10)
Amazing Grace! Hallelu Yah!
this was an excellent show guys God bless and keep up the good work
Thank you so much Dr Charles Missler and Sir Ron Matsen through your teaching my illiteracy in the Word of God was taken cared of. The second person in my list whom I will look in heaven is you Dr Missler the great bible teacher of our time. I kept on watching your videos and the book of Jude open up my knowledge on end times apostasy.
Dr. Missler, you never fail to tweak my mind. I always learn something new from you. I wish we could clone you or, somehow download your intellect to our minds (Maybe someday?). Your bible studies are always a WOW factor for me. Thank you as always for making the Bible the most interesting book in the world. You are amazing.
Dude....Chuck's the man
I am disappointed I never got to meet this great man of God during this life but I pray I meet him in the next one. It seems fairly obvious where he will be.🙏
I have learned so much following these wonderful teachings.
Thank you
Thank You for YOUR GRACE Jesus !!!!!!!!
I disagree with pretrib but love Chuck, and his admitting he does not know for sure.
Just be ready at all times, we can die at any time.
Amen.
My goodness I wish I knew more, I know nothing, please help me, this is amazing,thank you, I wish I knew this long long time ago.
@cran brisbane I wish I had someone to associate with I left the Catholic church
God bless Chuck.
Good to see Chuck looking so chipper. Seems like he is feeling better. Thank the Lord!
Making a list of the scriptures for myself to go back and study, thought I’d share if anyone else wants them for reference Isaiah 26:19-
Psalm 27:5, psalm 57:1, zeph 2:3,
Psalm 83:1-4, numbers 21:5-/John 3:14-16 genius 5; 2 kings 2 Daniel 9:25-27,
Thank you
Thank you Chuck
These videos are amazing. I realize Chuck has been with Jesus several years now but these videos are all new to me. Ron and Chuck are excellent.
Great stuff thanks to the both of you and glad Chuck is doing better after what he has been through.The church needs him in the Zend Times
We are seeing the end times right now February 2020 I know jesus is right at the door, I'm looking for the blessed hope to appear in the clouds. God bless you all...
People have said the same thing for the longest time
@@brianmcguire1103 yeah but we are on a exponential curve meaning everything jesus said about his return earthquakes, perplexity of nations, volcanoes, weather patterns changing, and pestilence or pandemic is happening at a faster rate. He said when you see these things happening I'm right at the door...God bless...
These things have been happening but now the tech has improved to the point that it's reported more than ever and the earth is populated more than ever to make it seem worse than ever. But nothing has changed at the earth side of things. Just the population and reporting of it.
Thank you for your dedication❣️✝️
Thank you.
God bless
They forgot to mention that the "rapture" in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 says it happens after the apostasy (falling away) and after the man of sin is revealed, not before.
A lot of christians are afraid of what those verses say. It is so clear and still do not wants to accept it; or they are blind or afraid of that truth.
A lot of christians are afraid of what those verses say. It is so clear and still do not wants to accept it; or they are blind or afraid of that truth.
The apostasy may be caused by the rapture NOT taking place!
RescuingTheChurch yes, this is a very strong scripture isn't it, but one thing I cannot reconcile is that God rescued Noah before the flood , God took Lot out of Sodom and Gomorrah before destroying it. We just must be ready to meet the Lord at all times.
It speaks in vs 1 of 2 different events..
The second coming..
Our gathering together with Him..
Vs 2...the day of the Lord..or the second coming.
But first comes apostacy, and the man of lawlessness vs 3.
Vs 6 then says the Restrainer restrains him..
Vs 7 the Restrainer.
specifically the pronoun "he", not "it", is "taken" out of the way.
"Then", it says, the lawless one will be revealed.
You see, you have to READ the bible...in context.
Not just look for proof texts.
1 thes 2 plainly refutes your theory bc you haven't read it...have you?
But why not oppose mid trib?
Or if you're mid, then oppose post trib?
At least one of these views are wrong...aren't they? Wassup with that?
No one ever does this.
Why?
Its just a pet theory of mine. But I believe satan uses carnal Christians to oppose the truth of the pre trib catching away.
It is the only view I ever see get any criticism...and I find that rather telling...don't you? lol
Thank you Lord for Chuck Missler!
Thank you, Chuck, for all the insight yuo share.
Thank you Ron for being a good exampel, how to respekt elderly people.
God bless you.
Listening every day from sweden.
May the Lord Jesus Bless You Both.........great insight.....great program........
The earth CASTS OUT the righteous dead. Casts out!!!! Reminded me of the dead that burst from the ground when Jesus rose. Yay. I read that yesterday and it leapt out at me that way, probably because I have been listening to Chuck for three years now, and studying more now than doing anything else. Thanks be to God. I have come to believe there is a certain spirit in those who can't see the rapture viewpoint. It is everywhere in the scriptures as I have and am learning. I am befuddled by the dull at heart.
I love that man. Can’t wait to meet him soon…
the rapture I think is in 8 days? 21st May. at 11.11 israel time. - My guess. unlike other folk i do not ask for donations. Fk it. i'm out of here and Chucks coming too.
lets see if i is Right? Enoch's birthday.
Great teacher chuck missler,all glory to the lord jesus christ 🇬🇧🐑🏁🔥
The Party
Imagine that on Saturday you make a reservation with one of the entertainment facilities that provides for children. You plan a party for your child and his friends. You pay the fee and the appointed time is set for one week away early on Saturday morning. You tell your child that there is a party planned for him and his friends. You do not tell him the exact appointment time. You want him to go about his activities and be motivated by the hope of going to the party. You tell him to invite his friends.
The child is curious and impatient and asks when the party will start. You do not tell him the exact time but say that there are some other things that must happen first and the party will happen at the appointment time. “You have to go to school first and study your lessons. Other things are going to happen first, especially on the day before the party.” Then you tell the child what some of the other things are and especially those things that will take place on the day before the party.
Some of your child’s friends find out about the planned party. Their imaginations run wild. They tell your child that the party could happen at any time. They think it is imminent. Your child says, “No, it is not going to happen at just any moment. It will happen at the appointment time. That is what my father told me and I believe him”
Late on Friday, the day before the party, the friends say to the child, “Now the party can start at any time because all the things your father said would happen have already happened. It is imminent.”
The child responded, “There is one thing my father said would happen on the day before the party that has not yet been revealed. So it is not imminent. My father always tells the truth. One more thing must happen today then the party will be at the appointed time tomorrow.”
This story of the party is the story of the rapture. An incorrect teaching and belief that the Lord’s Kingdom was imminent actually took place while Jesus was still on the earth after His resurrection ! It is recorded in our Bibles. In my 40 years of Bible study I’ve never heard one sermon or one teaching about it. Not even in prophecy studies !
In John chapter 21 verses 15-23, Jesus is drawing Peter to follow Him. Peter tries to change the subject and speaks of John who is there and says, “What about this man?”
In a polite way Jesus in effect tells him forget about John this is between me and you.
The exact words in verse 22 are
“If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow me.”
This caused a false belief and teaching by the very Apostles themselves! They began to teach that Jesus would return before John would die. In other words they were teaching that the return of Christ was imminent.
This was an incorrect teaching and God dealt with it by having John correct it in the writings we have in our Bibles in the book of John. Verse 22 has the Lord’s words that were misinterpreted.
The very next verse, verse 23, makes the correction. It says,
“Then this saying went out among the brethren that this disciple would not die. Yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but, “If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you?”
The incorrect teaching of the Lord’s return being imminent crept into the church early in its history. It was even believed and taught by the very Apostles themselves. God corrected that error and recorded it in our Bibles. Why did God bother to record it for us to read in our day?
Perhaps it was because He knew that near the time of Christ’s return the incorrect teaching of it being imminent would once again be a problem.
The return of Christ to resurrect His Church and to rapture the living believers has never been imminent throughout the history of the Church. Consider just a few of the things that had to happen before Christ would return. Peter would die a martyr’s death by being crucified. Jesus told him this on the same occasion that is recorded in John chapter 21 that we just looked at.
The temple would be destroyed. Israel would be destroyed as a nation and the survivors scattered throughout the world. Gentiles would control Jerusalem until close to the time of the Lord’s return. Israel would once again become a nation. Israel would regain control of Jerusalem.
The gospel would be preached in all the world. The nations surrounding Israel would unite together in calling for her destruction. There would be a falling away from God and from the truth of His teachings.
That brings us up to today. During none of those over 1900 years has the Lord’s return been imminent. It could not happen at just any time. All of the events mentioned above and others had to be completed before the appointed time for the return would come.
It has been taught for the past many decades that all events foretold to happen before the Lord’s return have taken place and He could return at any moment. That is not true. There is at least one major event that must take place before the Lord’s return for the resurrection and rapture. Even after that event the exact day and hour of the Lord’s return will not be known to us. It will take place at the appointed time.
We have a prophetic verse that tells us of two things that must happen before the resurrection of the Church and the rapture. One of those things is the ‘falling away.’ This is the falling away from God in general and in the falling away from teaching the true doctrines of the Bible. We can see that falling away taking place today.
Before looking at the second thing that must take place before the resurrection and rapture lets look at the situation with the Church at Thessalonica. Paul had been there and helped them. While he was there he taught them about the resurrection and rapture. After he left, someone by letter or word convienced the Church there that they had missed the resurrection and rapture. In other words they had been ‘left behind.’ In his second letter to Timothy, Paul identified two men who were falesly teaching that ‘the resurrection is already past: and they overthrow the faith of some.’ See 2 Timothy 2:17-18. This was a very serious problem.
As you can imagine, the Church at Thessalonica was very upset about this and wrote to Paul asking for help. Paul told them God would ‘repay with tribulation those who trouble you.’
In chapter 2 verses 1-3 Paul tells them that two things that had not yet happened in their time had to happen before the resurrection and rapture.
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed....
So the two things Paul told them that had not happened yet were 1. the falling away and 2. the man of sin must be revealed. In verse 5 he reminds them that he taught them these things when he was with them. See how easy it is for Church members to be lead astray by false teaching?
In our time the falling away is taking place. The man of sin (the Antichrist that Paul goes on to talk about in the rest of chapter 2) has not yet been revealed. These verses show us that the Antichrist must be revealed before the resurrection and rapture of the church.
Some would argue that the verse that tells us no man knows the day or the hour prevents this from being true. No it doesn’t. The Antichrist can be revealed and then there can be some amout of time before the 7 year peace plan is made and begins. During that time the resurrection and rapture can take place and no one will know what day it is going to be.
So what is the danger of the incorrect teaching that the rapture is imminent and no events remain before it can take place? Remember Paul said of those who were teaching that they overthrew the faith of some. Think about it. Today if a man came on the scene who was clearly the Antichrist and recognized by Christians what would they think?
Many would think they had been ‘left behind’ just like the people at Thessalonica. It would trouble them and it might even ‘overthrow’ their faith. Some might turn their back on their faith. Some might commit suicide. Who knows all the harm it might cause.
Look closely at what Paul said about this ‘man of sin.’ It says he must be revealed. What he does not say is just as important. Paul did not say he must be in power yet or have made a 7 year peace treaty with Israel yet. Only that he must be revealed. Think about it this way. Every 4 years the US elects a new president. The election takes place in November and the winner is revealed. The winner becomes known to everyone. Yet the winner does not take office until some time later in January. It is only then that he has power to do things. Perhaps that is the way it will be when the Antichrist is revealed.
So dear brother or sister in Christ, if you are around when the Antichrist is revealed do not panic. You have not been ‘left behind.’ Remember the Church at Thessalonica and what God had to say to them through Paul. Once he is revealed then it will imminent.
By all means your points a accurate. But the "lawless one being revealed" does not fully undermine "imminence". The ability for political change to happen rapidly based on one seemingly insignificant event, shows how quickly and perhaps simultaneously events of massive proportion can happen. (Example : the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand). To put a finer point on it: Believers ought not to fear that they have been "left behind" if the the "man of sin" has not been revealed, but that doesn't mean they will not be raptured before "he" is revealed.
John did see His coming....he wrote Revelation to record what he saw.
Simple. No need for elaborate explanation
Wow thank you Really blessed by Chuck teaching on this
I agree with everything Chuck said, an if you look in the book of revelation the church is here the first three verses, an after that the church is gone, then all HELL brakes out on the world..
Oh.....Chuck Missler, be blessed. You look so much like my dear sweet papa. He passed in 1982 and was full of the Lord's spirit. He had the very same hair, nose, eyes, ears, smile, and sound. Even your hands remind me of him. I will see him soon!! I will see him soon, but I know he won't have a single wrinkle, so he may have to tell me who he is! LOL. Blessed you are today for winning my heart with your appearance, but my soul's heart with the words of our Lord. Thank you!! (Ernest River Edwards of Oklahoma Territory 1890, born November 19. He left me July 5, 1982, and I was not ready to let him go.)
Amen! Come Lord Jesus!
Thank you I needed that. ;-)
Chuck Missler one of the best teachers ever! 💯
Hallelujah. God bless.
Even as Dr. Missler rightly points out that we need to use our words accurately. We need to distinguish between tribulation (from man and Hasatan) vs. wrath (God's judgement on the wicked).
This is very good to be snatched away by force I was thinking, as in the days of Noah the same thing. God told him to do this and he did it. And I absolutely love both of these men. Together they make such a good team and apart. I thank the Lord Jesus that we have them. I know that Chuck is with the Lord. But he's taught me so much and made me believe my Bible a whole lot more I believed it anyway but this is awesome that they're helping me find these things♥️🌹⏳♥️🌹⌛
Great study!!! Clarifies so much in my thinking. There is a statement in the OT that there will come a time that there will be a famine on the earth for the Word of God. THAT time is here----thank God for the internet to help locate and meditate on these truths. Thank you.
Maranatha!
In my humble view Mid trib looses the doctrine of imminency as taught by dr missler himself previously and people can easily know after covnent is made that he is coming within three and a half years.7 yrs for thy people Israel. Ty
Watching in May 2019 🕊 ❤️
Watching for what, the antichrist must come before Jesus returns;
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 King James Version (KJV)
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Don't let these pretribbers lie to you!
@@user-bg5kj5ig1y I have a few theories on mid tribulation rapture 1) the book of Job, 42 chapters, a book of tribulation but also of blessing, chapters could represent months. 2) Jesus's ministry was approx 3 1/2 years, 42 months.
I'll go when I go, but I tend to believe mid. God bless
@@stevenhamilton801 Well iv'e never heard that theory before but it's worth a listen and study.
Job believed in a post trib event, there's no such thing as a rapture but job was taught by Adam of a second coming.
Thess 4.... Paul clearly taught the second coming and rapture are the same event... First let me ask, did you ever wonder why he said we meet Jesus in the clouds rather than heaven? lets turn to sound scripture for the answer.Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the next heavens will pass away with a roar. Now Paul says in 1 Thess 4....Concerning the Lord’s visible, physical return, the apostle Paul tells us, “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then WE which are alive and REMAIN shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Why the meeting in the clouds, heaven is destroyed according to Job.
Not ONE scripture says we will return to heaven for some supper.
? Jesus said the son and moon would be darkened "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29)
? The son and moon are darkened at the opening of the sixth seal, as clearly stated in Revelation 6:12,13.
? Therefore the tribulation must be over as the sixth seal is being opened.
? Jesus returns at the "last trump" (1 Cor 15:52, also 1 Thess 4:16) to resurrect the "dead in Christ." The "last trump" is the seventh of the seven trumpets that make up the seventh seal (Revelation 8:1 through 11:15)
? Given that the sixth seal comes before the seventh seal (and the 7th seal's seven trumpets) it is obvious that the tribulation is over well before Jesus returns and resurrects the dead in Christ. The sixth seal, and the first six trumpets of the seventh seal must all occur after the tribulation but before the "last trump."
? Quoting 1 Thess 4:16,17: "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
Those who are "alive and remain" are "caught up" after the resurrection of the "dead in Christ" at the "last trump." They are "caught up" with the resurrected, to "meet the Lord in the air". . . well after the tribulation is over.
? Pre-tribulation rapture??? Not in my Book or Gods book, alive and well in Darby's book.
The rapture is such a crazy, insane notion - and yet, in reality, the whole of scripture is full of crazy, insane notions! Virgin birth, giants, full earth floods, ressurections, miracle healings, talking donkey....the list goes on! We should not even be a bit suprised that God has this planned, look at all He has done! Perhaps it's the grandness of the scale, size and impact of the rapture that plants disbelief in some Christian hearts.......well done Chuck and Ron - solid teaching as always, yet still the encouragement to check it all out for ourselves. Well done and thankyou.
+Cycle Preacher GREAT VIEWPOINT!
+Cycle Preacher very true! Great comment
Jada Parks Amen, amen and AMEN!!!!
But remember;
"14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and
one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but
you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your[a] works, and I will show you my faith by my[b] works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[c] 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only..."
+Red Shift Not judging or saying you're foolish by the way; I have no idea about your personal life. My point is, so many "Christians" say they have faith, yet continue to live in willful sin, and when our King returns, He will tell them "depart from me, you who practice lawlessness". Unfortunately, many "Christians" will end up being sent to destruction. Not saying that's you, it's just a very important message that most "Christians" don't want to promote, as it would be "inconvenient". Love and light
Thank you for All the video's
+Bruce Wayne It just may be that after the Church has brought the Gospel to the World, at the point where the world has completely rejected that Gospel and the Church, that this would be when Jesus comes for the Bride.
Much of the Tribulation seems to be God allowing the world to have the results of what it has asked for. And then the final Wrath of God portion is when God then punishes the wicked of the earth.
We seem to be entering a time where the Church/ Gospel is now being completely rejected by the world and that signals that we are very near the end of the age of the gentile grace period. The Gospel is now considered hate speech and several universities have banned it's teaching without a permit so as not to offend the transgenders. Children will then be forced the teachings of transgenderism and I do not think God will allow this to go on for very long. Judgement may be coming very soon to stop the results of children being further deceived into endless punishment without them being offered salvation......without the choice, they have no chance and God will not allow that to go on much longer.!
Maranatha!!!!
Chuck is AMAZING!!!
I have been saying this I am so glad you confirmed my view
He’s in paradise. A lifetime of brilliant teaching.
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Paradise was pre-resurrection. Jesus conquered death, paradise is empty.
Yes paradise is empty. Just a few hours ago a fine Christian woman (78yrs) passed away in my arms. I prayed as she died for Jesus to take her in his arms. I am sad for me but she has her reward. Now it is up to us Christians today to keep our faith to the end of this world or the end of our lives. May our God give us strength to endure whatever this wicked world does to us.
13:00. I am glad to hear Dr. Missler refer to the Hidden ones in Psa 83. Ever since I started studying that passage and its end times implications I have suspected it was referring to either a raptured church or a bride hidden from Israel namely the church.
After 4 years and Covid came.. GOD bless soul of Pastor Chuck😊🙏 Thanks for Feeding the Sheep of Avah Yeshua..
Thank putting me straight on the second coming of Jesus Christ
God promised his people we will never know his wrath (Romans 8:1). Since God is no liar He _has to_ remove his people before he pours out his wrath on the earth. He did it to Noah and Lot and their willing family members, and He will do it again.
_“Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.”_ Romans 7:25 + 8:1-2
Brilliant Scholarship!!!
Toward the end, Chuck allows for the possibility that the
Church may be around during the first 3 1/2 years of the 7 year period.
And we are invited to be as the Bereans - as I do.
I respect Chuck and have listened to scores of his videos
and we agree on much.
So the following comments are not to attack him in any way.
The Bible tells us to correct a wise man and he will be thankful
If I am correct in my interpretation then a wise may will be glad
if I correct his incorrect interpretation.
If I am wrong then I will be glad to be corrected.
May God be our teacher.
I find listening to Chuck very comforting. Reminds me of my father telling me about the Bible. Very much alike. 😊 Thank you