@@ezmoneysniper04 How? Vader is eons better at dueling and outstrips him in the force. Even Starkiller would annihilate any TOR character aside from Revan and Vitiate.
@@manofthunderbolts6525 Did u ever played Swtor? Malgus lead the Empire to burn coruscant and he possess Sith Lighthing which is the vulnerability of Vader suit
Malgus would totally win against Vader people don't realize how restricted Vader suit is Malgus is like Vader but free from restrictions and on top of that he could use lightning out of his cybernetics Vader couldn't but even without Vader's suit restricting him He would still have a very difficult time against Malgus
Darth Malgus is a TRUE Sith-Warrior to its core.He's fucking badass with huge combat experience,more,than 50 years,spent on multiple different battllefields.
Malgus is an extremely underrated dueler. You have to keep in mind that he is 7 foot 2. His raw strength was said to simply overwhelm opponents as he was just too physically dominating. Even against Vader I would say Malgus wins dueling.
Malgus is like a cockroach, no matter what you do he always seems to crawl back Satele crushes him against a mountainside He's defeated when posing as a false emperor He's defeated by a group of people that includes satele after the eternal empire incidents
This fight would literally never end. Sion would just keep getting back up angrier and angrier. He literally can't die. He's like an actual living corpse. Yeah, sure, Starkiller would win low diff, but Sion would just get back up and carry on fighting
Malgus wins mid-high diff Speed: His speed was such that a normal human found it difficult to watch his movement in his duels. Dueling: Defeated many strong jedi and sith using only his lightsaber. (Example: He defeated the jedi master Ven Zallow in a short but ferocious duel. Zallow was often regarded as one of the greatest duelist's in the entire jedi order of his time. Feats: Sacked the jedi temple with brute strength alone. Jedi grand master Satele Shan stated that Malgus was the most dangerous embodiment of the dark side she had ever experienced. Malgus was one of darth Sidious greatest idols. Force: Dark rage is a power that allows a force user to increase his strength, speed, recilliency and resolve. Force protection is a passive (and sometimes active) enhancement of a force sensetive's durability to varying superhuman degrees. Force speed is a passive (and sometimes active enhancement of a force sensetive's speed to varying superhuman degrees
lemme fix this speed goes to malgus, but reactions go to vader, he manually piloted a star destroyer through hyperspace, meaning no matter how fast malgus moves he’s not getting the jump on vader dueling goes to vader, he mastered all forms and george lucas himself stated that dueling had progressed nearly tenfold from the old republic era to the prequels, so considering anakin/vader is arguably the best duelist in the prequel era and beyond, he far outclasses malgus in dueling feats for sure go to vader, especially if we’re talking legends vader, this man has feats that put malgus to shame, he’s torn a rift in reality with his bare hands, he’s taken on entire armies alone, conquered planets by himself, he lifted the veil between the living and the dead, etc force power goes to vader, he’s able to crush starships with barely any effort, he’s immune to force drain (meaning nihilus couldn’t harm him), he’s mastered precognition and he also harnesses his rage in his own way that empowers him but leaves him in control (essentially the same as dark rage but he’s able to control it better and use it in efficient ways), also literally every force user above a padawan is capable of force protection and force speed so neither one of those are very impressive, we see obi-wan as a padawan use it in tpm legends vader wins low diff, he outclasses malgus in nearly every way aside from maybe experience
@@kb-verseI agree in most of your points, but Malgus was idolised by both Vader and Sidious and considered an equal by Sidious himself so I can say that with certainty Malgus wins. If you want I can go into depth in why.
@@The-Allfather-Odin he was idolized for his achievements, and in terms of being equal to sidious, vader has been stated to be more powerful than sidious repeatedly, the only reason vader didn’t take sidious down was bc he didn’t have enough confidence in his own ability to do so as for feats, malgus has some crazy feats but if we’re talking about legends vader he for sure is taking the cake, vader in legends straight up ripped a hole in reality with his bare hands, not to mention he tore down the veil between life and death, those two things alone are greater than anything malgus has ever done, and show just how powerful vader actually is, and why he is actually the most powerful force user to ever live, even without his entire body intact in terms of dueling, malgus was a great duelist for his time, but george lucas himself already stated that dueling progressed since the old republic, and that the jedi by the time of the phantom menace would’ve been much better duelists than in the past, so taking that into account, then the fact that anakin is stated to be one of the best duelists in star wars, even before he was vader, malgus is 100% losing that duel pretty much everything malgus has done, vader has also done, he wiped out the jedi, he took over the galaxy (let’s be honest, it was vader not palpatine, without vader none of palpatine’s plans would’ve succeeded), and in the end the only thing that was able to kill him was his own guilt, he could have and would have survived the lightning but chose to die bc he felt he deserved it
@@kb-verseI agree in what you are saying, but the difference between them is that Vader has many factors hindering him from becoming more powerful. Firstly, Vader lost a big amount of midechlorians after the battle on mustafar. Secondly his suit brought him constant discomfort wich could be good for fueling the dark side but isn't good in increasing your connection with it. Thirdly he was very depressed wich made him unable to increase his power. This means that after mustafar Vader stayed at the same power until his death. Malgus was in many ways the opposite of vader. Having been able to truly embrace the dark side. Many belives him to be just a brute, but he was one of the greatest sith philosophers in history. Being one of if not the only sith to break his chains. Unlike Vader he understood that to embrace the force fully you would have to destroy what you love and cut all attachments. So in conclusion while Vader became stagnant in the force Malgus only grew. Vader was never a trye sith while Malgus was the perfect sith.
@@The-Allfather-Odin malgus may have been the “perfect sith” but that doesn’t necessarily mean he was the most powerful in the end, when it comes down to a 1v1 fight, vader is winning, regardless of their status or connection to the dark side
Vader by ROTJ wins Mid diff because by then Sidious himself stated he was more powerful than him. As far as his weakness to and using force lightning that was really just for plot because he could use his force shield to protect him from that.
@@BinkBinkgmdNo,Iw I’ll admit Prime Malgus is within Top 15 strongest sith But Vader Wins Extreme diff he has moved at great speeds and has shot force lightning before just rarely he can effortlessly throw around starkiller and block heavy turret blasts It’s Extreme diff but Vader wins
@@ManoraManYT fair points but i also have to argue that malgus has also ragdolled the outlander with ease who has soloed vitiate and he had also brought darth nox to his knees without any regard who also had beaten vitiate. malgus also has moved at immense speeds and in the decieved book he killed 6 jedi knights/masters within 3 seconds. malgus is more durable then vader by surviving a mountain collapse, 2 grenades to the face, 2 buildings falling on him and a star ship exploding with him in it, and still going and fighting regardless of his injuries. malgus also invented and uses force maelstorm which easily trump force lightning
Malgus would’ve won. Anakin didn’t have battle IQ - his main strategy was act now think later which costed the lives of his men. On the other hand, Malgus was able to sack the Jedi Temple and hold the Republics capital hostage until they reached a more favourable peace treaty. Yes, the Empire defeated the Republic under Palpatine but that was through subterfuge and plots - if the Sith Empire could have done the same it is without a doubt they could have held the Empire longer a hell of a lot longer than Vader and Palpatine did because they had strategy. I mean, there entire memo was fear and only utilised one type of ship pretty much, overused it. The Sith Empires ship designs were not only better and more effective, they were the best in the galaxy. Everything about old republic Sith was undoubtedly better. The Jedi in ROTS were rusty when it came to fights to the death with other lightsaber users because they hadn’t been at war with the Sith in a long time ago. In contrast, the Sith in the Old Republic were used to killing the Jedi - who were a hell of a lot better at fighting because their lives depended on it. Now. I get a lot of people will disagree but it’s just my opinion and I truly believe that Anakin - who yes was the chosen one - would lose. I mean… he did lose to Kenobi who was a hell of a lot weaker than Malgus.
Ok so they are very alike but Vader takes the edge bc his defense is mad But malgus’s offense durability and speed make it hard. He survived a gernade to the face and a clif fall in him
id say malgus would win in any scenario regarding vader mainly for his suit being weak to lightning but if that wasnt the case this is pretty much facts but id give speed to malgus most the time
Ммммм нееееет, если брать ситхов до малгуса то там вейдер люто хлебнёт горя. Как пример могу привести этих парней:экзар кун, дарт реван, дарт вишейт, дарт нихилус,фридом надд. А если откатать времена до экзара куна, то там вообще можно разгулятся. Вот самые банальные примеры:нага садоу, тулак хорд, лудо креш,марко рагнос. И прочие, так что если немного знать легенды (и комиксы по вейдеру) то ведро не такой уж и непобедимый как нам его представляли
@@Vader_GOAT нихилус, реван, тулак хорд, палпатин. Вот небольшие аргументы:1 связан с нихилусом и палпатином, они просто захерачат вейдера молнией, у нихилуса есть вариант высосать из него жизнь или силу. 2 реван и тулак хорд, они банально лучше дуэлянты чем вейдер, есть конечно вариант что реван будет похуже во владении мечом но там также как и с палычем и нихилусом, он просто использует молнию. Против тулака хорд там вообще шансы минимальные, он и лучший дуэлянт среди ситхов и владеет магией ситхов, короче имба. Если тебе нужно больше доказательств, то у автора есть шортс на эту тему. Вейдер безусловно один из сильнейших ситхов но! Говорить что тот-же палыч не захерачит вейдера молнией это тупо. Ах да насчёт наги садоу и ещё пары ситхов погорячился там да, вейдер просто за счёт фехтования их убьёт
@@Domovenok215 Вейдер изи игнорит молнию, он выдерживал молнию величайшего ситха всей вселенной с самой сильной молнией в истории зв, которая рушила флотилии, а потом сносит весь твой список
@Максим Николаев за бесплатным цирком обратись на свою прямую профессию, а там сущие факты, весь твой список сливается причем без проблем, пруфай обратное
Battle to Malthus but palpitine kinda groomed Vader like Malgus. And Malgus is a half bread sith meaning half soth pureblood and half human. He is like 6’9
What sort of bollocks is this Malgus would eat vader alive and shit him out as vaders power was limited and malgus wasn't limited plus vader is vulnerable to lightening and malgus had very strong force lightening
Mathis has force lightning which would destroy Vader instantly. Here’s the reality of Vader, Vader would get destroyed by any competent Sith with access to force lightning.
Basically mustafar anakin. operation knightfall was palpatines whole order 66 plan, and knightfall was vader without his suit during operation knightfall.
Face it, dude, this is the object of their fanaticism, and they will elevate it to unprecedented heights, it's absolutely not objective, besides they don't know anything about the Old Republic, perfectly proving it with their words and commenta
Face it, dude, this is the object of their fanaticism, and they will elevate it to unprecedented heights, it's absolutely not objective, besides they don't know anything about the Old Republic, perfectly proving it with their words and comments
I don't think Malgus beats any version besides Padawan Anakin and newly suited up Vader since he took a few weeks to get accustomed, during which some Jedi were able to sever limbs and such because he was sluggish and stiff. Before and after that though, he beats Malgus soundly. AOTC Anakin loses mid-high diff. Clone Wars Anakin wins high diff. Knightfall Anakin wins mid diff. Newly made Vader loses high diff. Any version of Vader after that, especially ROTJ Vader where he's become expert at Makashi and is according to the novelization described as ''The Sith Lord at his prime'' opposite Luke, wins mid diff, being about as strong as Knightfall Anakin again, and compensating for his reduced speed and agility with superior precision, increased patience, and more clever application of the Force.
@@SandersseyS Иди издания дарк хорс прочитай, ты видимо от Вейдера только имя знаешь, раз уверено мне это высираешь, твой днищ малгус по ачивам Плегасу прое6ет
@@AlfwhyVader ахахах, сказал чел, который от СР, знает лишь слово, ах нет подождите, сегодня его узнал не так ли? Дело ещё в том, что Вейдер НАМНОГО известнее Малгуса,и является самой что не наесть настоящей иконой, си по этой самой причине, находятся такие ярые АБСОЛЮТНО НЕ ОБЪЕКТИВНЫЕ фанбои как ты, готовые до последнего доказывать что Вейдер победит, но при этом эти самые ФАНБОИ от слова совсем ничего не знают ни о самой СР ни о Малгусе соответственно, вот скажи мне, что ты знаешь "о моëм днищем Малгусе"? Уверен что ничего, хоть блять для приличия почитай о нëм хоть на Википедии, ято бы хоть ПРИМЕРНО знать что из себя представляет Малгус. Касательно меня, нет я знаю кто такой Вейдер,знаю о его слабостью и не достатках, которыми Малгус без проблем может воспользоваться и победить любую версию Вейдера,а именно такая штука как Мальстрим Силы, знаешь что это такое дорогуша? А я сейчас процетирую для несведующих Описание:Поскольку областью применения Мальстрима являлась исключительно Тёмная сторона Силы, пользоваться данной техникой могли, как правило, ситхи и обученные ими индивиды.[1] Первоначально владелец создавал вокруг себя непроницаемую сферу энергии, телекинетический пузырь, блокировавший вражеские атаки и защищавший владельца.[3] Затем сфера становилась эпицентром мощного Вихря Силы, поднимавшего в воздух и вертевшего вокруг пузыря объекты и врагов.[1] Наконец, ни пузырь, ни вихрь не лишали владельца возможности атаковать противника подвернувшимся под руку хламом и использовать потоки молнии изнутри сферы.[1][3] Единственной возможностью не пострадать от Мальстрима Силы оставалось лишь найти укрытие.[3] Мальстрим это пиздец какая сильная абилка, которую к слову Малгуса придумал и отработал и сам,и всë жэ это лишь одна из множества перечней сил Малгуса благодаря которым он сможет победить Вейдера, и
@@AlfwhyVader Так же обязательно стоит отметить, *что Малгус победил и смог обойти Чужеземца,а этот самый чужеземец некогда в одиночку победил самого Вишейта, делал такие вещи, которые некоторые бы посчитали не естественными, да что уж там говорить, Чужеземец, это чëрт возьми избранный своего времени, как Реван своего и Энакин своего, этот Чужеземец буквально был причиной смерти Валкортлна, и остановил ритуал Вишейта по поглощению целой Галактике, так же он был лидером Вечного Альянса, именно под его командованием удалось победить Вечную Империю, после чего Чужеземец, занял Вечный Трон, с помощью которого можно было управлять всем Вечным Флотом,так же Чужеземец был одним из тех великих героев, которые раз и навсегда покончили с Вишейтом, когда тот был в своей самой сильной форме когда либо зафиксированной
people think Vader wins cause he was untouchable in a era where the Jedi and Sith were like not existent almost after order 66 lol when Malgus here survived in an era with thousands of Jedi And Sith which are alot more powerful then the one in the era Vader is from
@@The-Allfather-Odin No bro, I just speak what I think. In general, OR is full of overrated fodders with no real feats, Malgus is a good example of this, they simply compare him to Vader for being a robust character with a respirator.
the only reason why people think Vader is stronger is because he is the most known Sith of all time we have seen him way more then Malgus so we kind of have a better understanding to how strong Vader is compared to Malgus but I think there is a little bit of fanboy in there
@@AlfwhyVaderСильнее почему? Я отвечу, потому что ты фанатик, и как человек выше меня написал, Вейдер является на много известнее Малгуса, что уж там, он икона, и по этой причине появляются не объективные фанбои, готовые до пены у рта придумывать различные факты (их любимому персонажу) , которых не было, по факту придумывая нового персонажа, но так же эти самые фанбои от слова совсем не знают о СР, против которой спорят, и по этому несут не объективный бред
@@SandersseyS Назови мне хоть одну ачиву, по которой малгус превосходит Вейдера, заметь, я отлично понимаю, что допустим тот же Кейдус, Крайт, Сидиус, Валкарион сильнее киборга, но ты ответь мне, по каким критериям и вообще с каких пор, Малгус, отлетавший от ничего не показавшей Сатель-Шан сильнее балансного форсьюзера, кто блицал богов, сотнями вырезал джедаев, подчинял Самма-верминотов?
@@AlfwhyVader Лол,бред, причину я тебе уже называл под другим комментарием насчëт Мальстрима Силы, и не только. И В СМЫСЛЕ БЛЯТЬ НИЧЕГО НЕ ПОКАЗАВШЕЙ САТИЛЬ ШАН?! ты вообще в игру играл, лор читал? Она уже в свои 18 лет предсказала и почувствовала появление Империи Ситхов, в то время как еë учитель,подчеркну это слово Battle Master Ордена джедаев нет, так же Сатиль является одним из самых сильных джедаев всех времëн, и это факт, спорить с этим глупо, она стала Гранд Мастером Ордена Джедаев, ты же вкурсе, что этот титул не дают просто так верно? Да что уж там, он вообще только один, Так же если ты ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО, и не не объективно посмотришь синематик, то ты увидешь, что Сатиль Шан, после того, как Малгус разрубил еë световой меч, она с помощью своего сильнейшего тутаминиса РУКАМИ УДЕРЖАЛА световой меч Дарта Малгуса, и смотря опять тот же синематик, можно сказать что Веранду (так звали Малгуса раньше) по сути побеждал Сатиль Шан, и если бы не Джейс Мальком, который с боку накинулся на Малгуса, то неизвестно сколько бы ещë протянула Сатиль держа меч Малгуса. Блицал Богов? )) что за бред?)) Когда ЭНАКИН! НЕ ВЕЙДЕР, ЭНАКИИН!!!!!! был на Мортисе, там у него было где-то 50% от всего его полного потенциал, с помощью этого он и смог победить Дочь и Сына Мортиса,а я напомню, на Мустафаре, Энакин лешился большей части своего потенциала, и стал Дартом Вейдерлм, и уже никогда не станет FP Anakin Так же про джедаев, за десятки лет постоянных войн Малгус убил огромное количество сильнейших джедаев, включая лучших фехтовальщиков своих времëн,таких как Мастер Као Сен (учитель Сатиль) и Вэна Зеллоу, и никто, я повторяю никто не мог ему нормально (за исключением нескольких единиц) противостоять, в то время как Вейдер, убивал и охотился на джедаев, которые во первых прятались, и не использовали силу, а во вторых они были гораздо слабее чем джедаи, закалëнные в вечном горниле войны, которая длилась десятки и десятки лет, и каждый из этих боëв в этих войнах, был всегда безумно ожесточëнным, в котором Малгус сражался с джедаями всех мастей на поле боя, ,5, и Зеяед
@@darkerlighter9470 Vader Weak? Dude, you know exactly who Vader is and you even know his spirit? According to Lucas, Darth Vader at the time of the three films of the Original Toyemt Trilogy in 4,5,6 episodes, he is inferior to his teacher Darth Silius by 20%, and Darth Sidious at the time of 1 episode was equal to Plagueis Which in his solo book is described that he is stronger than all the Seahs before himself, and much, not the peak Palpatine in 1 episode was equal to the Plagueis, at the time of the 3rd episode according to the source Insider 100 anakin in episode 3 was equal, and possibly stronger than palpatine at that time, but after mustofar he was weakened and no one denies this, but he was able to force palpatine after Mustofar, yes, in the Legends, after Mustofar, he weakened and was weaker than Palpatine, Getzerion, Talzin's mother, Yoda and Plagueis, but By the 4th episode, Vader regained his strength and became stronger in the 4th episode, he is inferior in Forces only Palpatine
@@AlfwhyVaderНет, Малгус не входит в топ 20,он входит в топ 10-15 и это не изменится, потому что ты этого не хочешь и ни черта не знаешь ни о Малгусе ни о СР, так ято тебе стоит об как следует этом позаботится или тебе обязательно перечислять все достижения и подвиги Малгуса?
@@AlfwhyVader А ято мне доказывать фанбою ВИ? вы же как непробиваесое бревно, вы слышите только ту правду которую сами хотите, при этом ничего не зная о СР, и яра ротуете мол "Этот чел сносит фул СР" ПРИ ЭТОМ НИЧЕГО О НЕЙ НЕ ЗНАЯ, даже не удосужившись почитать о ней, очень объективно К тому же под другим комментарием, я тебе написал некоторое о Малгусе, и почему он Вейдера сносит
@@SandersseyS Ахахаха, умный, ты во сне мне написал по каким критериям Малгус сносит Вейдера? Второй на равных с люком был, и достигал 80% мощи от Сидиуса, ты единственное что смог мне "доказать" Так это то что я фанат Вейдера, но сам, по каким ачивам твой Малгус сносит Вейдера, ты не сказал до сих пор, хотя бы скинь источник со сканами, где прям написано, что Малгус сносит Вейдера
Can we all agree that Vader vs Malgus would be the best fight in Star Wars history
No because Vader would destroy him easily
@@manofthunderbolts6525 if it's Swtor Malgus he will neg Vader
@@ezmoneysniper04 prime Vader would end him in minutes
@@ezmoneysniper04 How? Vader is eons better at dueling and outstrips him in the force. Even Starkiller would annihilate any TOR character aside from Revan and Vitiate.
@@manofthunderbolts6525 Did u ever played Swtor? Malgus lead the Empire to burn coruscant and he possess Sith Lighthing which is the vulnerability of Vader suit
Can we all agree malgus and vader are bye far the two most badass looking sith
After Nihilus
And revan
And Marr
@@D1LLERH Vader are more badass
For Malgus, he got his badass look post alderaan although his scars on alderaan were cool but Jace Malcolm wore the scars better
Malgus is hella underrated
yep
fax like nihilus and revan r stealing every single light for others Old Republic siths like d. sion malak or even malgus
cause people don't know what Malgus is capable of compared to Vader
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsaiyanExactly
Malgus would totally win against Vader people don't realize how restricted Vader suit is Malgus is like Vader but free from restrictions and on top of that he could use lightning out of his cybernetics Vader couldn't but even without Vader's suit restricting him He would still have a very difficult time against Malgus
My Top 3 Favourite Sith
1. Darth Vader
2. Darth Malgus
3. Darth Nihilus
Revan.
@@MariaSocorro-vt1cx He hard asf to🥶 but just not better than the other 3
Ngo revan is so overrated. People meat ride him so much to the point where a really sick character is just boring.
Darth Malgus is a TRUE Sith-Warrior to its core.He's fucking badass with huge combat experience,more,than 50 years,spent on multiple different battllefields.
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Request: Darth Tyranus vs Darth Maul ~ Legends ~
Dooku imo
Maul. Already beat the old man facts.. in the cannon comic
Malgus is an extremely underrated dueler. You have to keep in mind that he is 7 foot 2. His raw strength was said to simply overwhelm opponents as he was just too physically dominating. Even against Vader I would say Malgus wins dueling.
Yes
I didn’t know he was 7 foot 2
well thats cap in the trailers he aint that big
@@YEEASSSS vader was like 6 foot 7 and malgus was half a foot taller
@@SweatmoneyyHe is though a compare his height to the Jedi he was battling in the most recent one day he’s 5 foot 11 he would be 7 foot two
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the crazy thing is that malgus still hasn't died
Malgus is like a cockroach, no matter what you do he always seems to crawl back
Satele crushes him against a mountainside
He's defeated when posing as a false emperor
He's defeated by a group of people that includes satele after the eternal empire incidents
Think he'll be dead by now mate
@@bigcheesyslicesbatholomewj8467he’s frozen he’s still alive but frozen
@@dje583 Didn't he arrive from his frozen in the games ?
This is my favourite edit from you🔥
Request, Tulak Hord vs Darth Malgus
Tulak Hord mid diff, the skill gap is insane he’s just far better at dueling
Probly Malgus but barely.
Lord Starkiller vs Darth Sion
Starkiller for sure.
@@darkerlighter9470 nah. Stalkiller won't be able to kill him
This fight would literally never end. Sion would just keep getting back up angrier and angrier. He literally can't die. He's like an actual living corpse.
Yeah, sure, Starkiller would win low diff, but Sion would just get back up and carry on fighting
This song is more fire than Anakin skywalker
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Malgus wins mid-high diff
Speed: His speed was such that a normal human found it difficult to watch his movement in his duels.
Dueling: Defeated many strong jedi and sith using only his lightsaber. (Example: He defeated the jedi master Ven Zallow in a short but ferocious duel. Zallow was often regarded as one of the greatest duelist's in the entire jedi order of his time.
Feats: Sacked the jedi temple with brute strength alone. Jedi grand master Satele Shan stated that Malgus was the most dangerous embodiment of the dark side she had ever experienced. Malgus was one of darth Sidious greatest idols.
Force: Dark rage is a power that allows a force user to increase his strength, speed, recilliency and resolve. Force protection is a passive (and sometimes active) enhancement of a force sensetive's durability to varying superhuman degrees. Force speed is a passive (and sometimes active enhancement of a force sensetive's speed to varying superhuman degrees
lemme fix this
speed goes to malgus, but reactions go to vader, he manually piloted a star destroyer through hyperspace, meaning no matter how fast malgus moves he’s not getting the jump on vader
dueling goes to vader, he mastered all forms and george lucas himself stated that dueling had progressed nearly tenfold from the old republic era to the prequels, so considering anakin/vader is arguably the best duelist in the prequel era and beyond, he far outclasses malgus in dueling
feats for sure go to vader, especially if we’re talking legends vader, this man has feats that put malgus to shame, he’s torn a rift in reality with his bare hands, he’s taken on entire armies alone, conquered planets by himself, he lifted the veil between the living and the dead, etc
force power goes to vader, he’s able to crush starships with barely any effort, he’s immune to force drain (meaning nihilus couldn’t harm him), he’s mastered precognition and he also harnesses his rage in his own way that empowers him but leaves him in control (essentially the same as dark rage but he’s able to control it better and use it in efficient ways), also literally every force user above a padawan is capable of force protection and force speed so neither one of those are very impressive, we see obi-wan as a padawan use it in tpm
legends vader wins low diff, he outclasses malgus in nearly every way aside from maybe experience
@@kb-verseI agree in most of your points, but Malgus was idolised by both Vader and Sidious and considered an equal by Sidious himself so I can say that with certainty Malgus wins. If you want I can go into depth in why.
@@The-Allfather-Odin he was idolized for his achievements, and in terms of being equal to sidious, vader has been stated to be more powerful than sidious repeatedly, the only reason vader didn’t take sidious down was bc he didn’t have enough confidence in his own ability to do so
as for feats, malgus has some crazy feats but if we’re talking about legends vader he for sure is taking the cake, vader in legends straight up ripped a hole in reality with his bare hands, not to mention he tore down the veil between life and death, those two things alone are greater than anything malgus has ever done, and show just how powerful vader actually is, and why he is actually the most powerful force user to ever live, even without his entire body intact
in terms of dueling, malgus was a great duelist for his time, but george lucas himself already stated that dueling progressed since the old republic, and that the jedi by the time of the phantom menace would’ve been much better duelists than in the past, so taking that into account, then the fact that anakin is stated to be one of the best duelists in star wars, even before he was vader, malgus is 100% losing that duel
pretty much everything malgus has done, vader has also done, he wiped out the jedi, he took over the galaxy (let’s be honest, it was vader not palpatine, without vader none of palpatine’s plans would’ve succeeded), and in the end the only thing that was able to kill him was his own guilt, he could have and would have survived the lightning but chose to die bc he felt he deserved it
@@kb-verseI agree in what you are saying, but the difference between them is that Vader has many factors hindering him from becoming more powerful. Firstly, Vader lost a big amount of midechlorians after the battle on mustafar. Secondly his suit brought him constant discomfort wich could be good for fueling the dark side but isn't good in increasing your connection with it. Thirdly he was very depressed wich made him unable to increase his power. This means that after mustafar Vader stayed at the same power until his death.
Malgus was in many ways the opposite of vader. Having been able to truly embrace the dark side. Many belives him to be just a brute, but he was one of the greatest sith philosophers in history. Being one of if not the only sith to break his chains. Unlike Vader he understood that to embrace the force fully you would have to destroy what you love and cut all attachments.
So in conclusion while Vader became stagnant in the force Malgus only grew. Vader was never a trye sith while Malgus was the perfect sith.
@@The-Allfather-Odin malgus may have been the “perfect sith” but that doesn’t necessarily mean he was the most powerful
in the end, when it comes down to a 1v1 fight, vader is winning, regardless of their status or connection to the dark side
" He will be stronger than both of us!"
Then he lost 60% of his potential and was weaker than either
@@healmyvision5941He retained 60% not lost 60% still tho he did get his potential nearly cut in half
Brilliant edit fella
Two of the best form 5 mains who love saber combat, a battle for the ages. I do wonder form 5 v form 5 plays out well in actual combat
Malgus is underrated
Malgus embodies what a sith should be and fully embarrassed the darkside.
This edit is so good ❤
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Мне Кажется Что То Как Ведёт Себя Маразм Это Просто Его Образ Так Как Некоторые Говорят Что В Жизни Он Крайне Другой Человек Прям.
Vader by ROTJ wins Mid diff because by then Sidious himself stated he was more powerful than him. As far as his weakness to and using force lightning that was really just for plot because he could use his force shield to protect him from that.
Both are goats
We should've gotten a vader that was very similar to malgus. He would've been way more badass
Bro pls Darth Revan Reborn in old republic (has cool Design) vs Darth Marr with Red and sick armor. Will be so brutal!!!
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My Ordinary Life x FNAF 4 song
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Some idiot fanboy said Vader wins “no diff”😂😂💀
Vader Would Win, But With High - Very High/Extreme Diff Yeah.
@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1бnope if it’s prime then malgus absolutely annihilates
@@BinkBinkgmdNo,Iw I’ll admit Prime Malgus is within Top 15 strongest sith But Vader Wins Extreme diff he has moved at great speeds and has shot force lightning before just rarely he can effortlessly throw around starkiller and block heavy turret blasts It’s Extreme diff but Vader wins
@@ManoraManYT fair points but i also have to argue that malgus has also ragdolled the outlander with ease who has soloed vitiate and he had also brought darth nox to his knees without any regard who also had beaten vitiate. malgus also has moved at immense speeds and in the decieved book he killed 6 jedi knights/masters within 3 seconds. malgus is more durable then vader by surviving a mountain collapse, 2 grenades to the face, 2 buildings falling on him and a star ship exploding with him in it, and still going and fighting regardless of his injuries. malgus also invented and uses force maelstorm which easily trump force lightning
@@BinkBinkgmdthat depends heavily on the iteration of Vader.
ROTJ Vader trumps Malgus. It’s not a complete stomp, but he does dominate him eventually.
Malgus would’ve won. Anakin didn’t have battle IQ - his main strategy was act now think later which costed the lives of his men. On the other hand, Malgus was able to sack the Jedi Temple and hold the Republics capital hostage until they reached a more favourable peace treaty. Yes, the Empire defeated the Republic under Palpatine but that was through subterfuge and plots - if the Sith Empire could have done the same it is without a doubt they could have held the Empire longer a hell of a lot longer than Vader and Palpatine did because they had strategy. I mean, there entire memo was fear and only utilised one type of ship pretty much, overused it. The Sith Empires ship designs were not only better and more effective, they were the best in the galaxy.
Everything about old republic Sith was undoubtedly better. The Jedi in ROTS were rusty when it came to fights to the death with other lightsaber users because they hadn’t been at war with the Sith in a long time ago. In contrast, the Sith in the Old Republic were used to killing the Jedi - who were a hell of a lot better at fighting because their lives depended on it.
Now. I get a lot of people will disagree but it’s just my opinion and I truly believe that Anakin - who yes was the chosen one - would lose. I mean… he did lose to Kenobi who was a hell of a lot weaker than Malgus.
Legends Luke & Full Potential Anakin v The Son *Suggestion*
I’d say Malgus would beat Vader early ROTS, as he isn’t used to his suit. Anytime after I’d said Vader wins high diff. Also, W edit
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Ok so they are very alike but Vader takes the edge bc his defense is mad But malgus’s offense durability and speed make it hard. He survived a gernade to the face and a clif fall in him
Strongest version of Revan vs Luke legends
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Vader is literally more powerful than ROTS Anakin. So idk how Malgus would lose to him but defeat Vader
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Its not even a question, darth vader/anakin is the chosen one, he would even be better than luke if he reached his full potential.
Malgus doesn't care for foot work he just swings it hard
He's certainly got more spring in his step than you'd expect!
Malgus should get their durability in all of them, considering he got buried in A mountain
Darth Vader Legends 🥵
Oneness Malgus
Malgus woukd defeat vader. Barley a contest
Fax
id say malgus would win in any scenario regarding vader mainly for his suit being weak to lightning but if that wasnt the case this is pretty much facts but id give speed to malgus most the time
Вейдер круто разматывает стихов старой республики
Ммммм нееееет, если брать ситхов до малгуса то там вейдер люто хлебнёт горя. Как пример могу привести этих парней:экзар кун, дарт реван, дарт вишейт, дарт нихилус,фридом надд. А если откатать времена до экзара куна, то там вообще можно разгулятся. Вот самые банальные примеры:нага садоу, тулак хорд, лудо креш,марко рагнос. И прочие, так что если немного знать легенды (и комиксы по вейдеру) то ведро не такой уж и непобедимый как нам его представляли
@@Domovenok215 лол Вейдер сливает всех кого написал почти без сложности. Вишейт реальная проблема, все остальные и близко не валялись
@@Vader_GOAT нихилус, реван, тулак хорд, палпатин. Вот небольшие аргументы:1 связан с нихилусом и палпатином, они просто захерачат вейдера молнией, у нихилуса есть вариант высосать из него жизнь или силу. 2 реван и тулак хорд, они банально лучше дуэлянты чем вейдер, есть конечно вариант что реван будет похуже во владении мечом но там также как и с палычем и нихилусом, он просто использует молнию. Против тулака хорд там вообще шансы минимальные, он и лучший дуэлянт среди ситхов и владеет магией ситхов, короче имба. Если тебе нужно больше доказательств, то у автора есть шортс на эту тему. Вейдер безусловно один из сильнейших ситхов но! Говорить что тот-же палыч не захерачит вейдера молнией это тупо. Ах да насчёт наги садоу и ещё пары ситхов погорячился там да, вейдер просто за счёт фехтования их убьёт
@@Domovenok215 Вейдер изи игнорит молнию, он выдерживал молнию величайшего ситха всей вселенной с самой сильной молнией в истории зв, которая рушила флотилии, а потом сносит весь твой список
@Максим Николаев за бесплатным цирком обратись на свою прямую профессию, а там сущие факты, весь твой список сливается причем без проблем, пруфай обратное
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In the last, Vader gets power
Stamina and endurance to ani 💀
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Malgus would destroy Vader easily
Nope not at all.. Vader wins the last fight
In your dreams bro. Also that’s not even Malgus’s strongest form 😂
My opinion malgus wins extreme diff
Malgus would win this fight, malgus is top notch. No one beats malgus in lightsaber combat, single handedly, no one.
Battle to Malthus but palpitine kinda groomed Vader like Malgus. And Malgus is a half bread sith meaning half soth pureblood and half human. He is like 6’9
What sort of bollocks is this Malgus would eat vader alive and shit him out as vaders power was limited and malgus wasn't limited plus vader is vulnerable to lightening and malgus had very strong force lightening
Mathis has force lightning which would destroy Vader instantly. Here’s the reality of Vader, Vader would get destroyed by any competent Sith with access to force lightning.
I don't agree with the last one, Vader would overpower him
What knightfall anakin
Basically mustafar anakin. operation knightfall was palpatines whole order 66 plan, and knightfall was vader without his suit during operation knightfall.
No ROTJ Vader in legends slaps Malgus very hard
I find it funny that people think Vader can defeat anybody even Malgus of all people lol
Face it, dude, this is the object of their fanaticism, and they will elevate it to unprecedented heights, it's absolutely not objective, besides they don't know anything about the Old Republic, perfectly proving it with their words and commenta
Face it, dude, this is the object of their fanaticism, and they will elevate it to unprecedented heights, it's absolutely not objective, besides they don't know anything about the Old Republic, perfectly proving it with their words and comments
How can agility goes to Vader malgus lived for 75 years but Vader is only 42
Malgus had crazy force augmentation and was just growing in power while Vader was stagnant.
Vader mid high diffs malgus based on what we see in book of sith
Malgus betterment strong power training
Malgus with force lightning vader absolutely die in second but is anakin not sure
Overhyped anakin 😂 surprise surprise
Darth Vader wins mid diff, he is js that strong
Malgus would outplay Vader, our just destroy him.
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Lmao. Death Vader wouldn’t beat malgus.
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I think redeemed Anakin would beat malgus but overall fire video
redeemed Anakin? you mean when Vader is seconds away from dying....
this is a joke right
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MALGUS BEATS ANIKIN BUT NIOT MUSTFAR VADER OR VADER
Anakin juss a shjt
Fax. Judging off of how Obi Wan had an easier time with Vader, Malgus could probably take him.
Malgus gets utterly decimated by Anakin in ROTS or by KFV.
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Bro gave agility to Malgus 💀
Vader cant even run...
@@zaiken639 Reflexes and Agility are almost completely different
Sure, he often tanks attacs rather than avoiding them, but he is still extremely agile. Certainly more agile than Vader.
I don't think Malgus beats any version besides Padawan Anakin and newly suited up Vader since he took a few weeks to get accustomed, during which some Jedi were able to sever limbs and such because he was sluggish and stiff.
Before and after that though, he beats Malgus soundly. AOTC Anakin loses mid-high diff. Clone Wars Anakin wins high diff. Knightfall Anakin wins mid diff. Newly made Vader loses high diff. Any version of Vader after that, especially ROTJ Vader where he's become expert at Makashi and is according to the novelization described as ''The Sith Lord at his prime'' opposite Luke, wins mid diff, being about as strong as Knightfall Anakin again, and compensating for his reduced speed and agility with superior precision, increased patience, and more clever application of the Force.
Fax bro
and Oneness Malgus wins neg diff
you don't know Malgus please know your stuff before making a comment so you don't make yourself look foolish
Vader wins
cap vader strength and vader vs malgus vader wins 2x
Никогда не видел такого фаната Малгуса который отдаёт силу ему в поединке с Вейдером
А теперь дурачëк, иди и почитай про Малгуса
@@SandersseyS Иди издания дарк хорс прочитай, ты видимо от Вейдера только имя знаешь, раз уверено мне это высираешь, твой днищ малгус по ачивам Плегасу прое6ет
@@AlfwhyVader ахахах, сказал чел, который от СР, знает лишь слово, ах нет подождите, сегодня его узнал не так ли?
Дело ещё в том, что Вейдер НАМНОГО известнее Малгуса,и является самой что не наесть настоящей иконой, си по этой самой причине, находятся такие ярые АБСОЛЮТНО НЕ ОБЪЕКТИВНЫЕ фанбои как ты, готовые до последнего доказывать что Вейдер победит, но при этом эти самые ФАНБОИ от слова совсем ничего не знают ни о самой СР ни о Малгусе соответственно, вот скажи мне, что ты знаешь "о моëм днищем Малгусе"? Уверен что ничего, хоть блять для приличия почитай о нëм хоть на Википедии, ято бы хоть ПРИМЕРНО знать что из себя представляет Малгус. Касательно меня, нет я знаю кто такой Вейдер,знаю о его слабостью и не достатках, которыми Малгус без проблем может воспользоваться и победить любую версию Вейдера,а именно такая штука как Мальстрим Силы, знаешь что это такое дорогуша? А я сейчас процетирую для несведующих
Описание:Поскольку областью применения Мальстрима являлась исключительно Тёмная сторона Силы, пользоваться данной техникой могли, как правило, ситхи и обученные ими индивиды.[1] Первоначально владелец создавал вокруг себя непроницаемую сферу энергии, телекинетический пузырь, блокировавший вражеские атаки и защищавший владельца.[3] Затем сфера становилась эпицентром мощного Вихря Силы, поднимавшего в воздух и вертевшего вокруг пузыря объекты и врагов.[1] Наконец, ни пузырь, ни вихрь не лишали владельца возможности атаковать противника подвернувшимся под руку хламом и использовать потоки молнии изнутри сферы.[1][3] Единственной возможностью не пострадать от Мальстрима Силы оставалось лишь найти укрытие.[3]
Мальстрим это пиздец какая сильная абилка, которую к слову Малгуса придумал и отработал и сам,и всë жэ это лишь одна из множества перечней сил Малгуса благодаря которым он сможет победить Вейдера, и
@@AlfwhyVader Так же обязательно стоит отметить, *что Малгус победил и смог обойти Чужеземца,а этот самый чужеземец некогда в одиночку победил самого Вишейта, делал такие вещи, которые некоторые бы посчитали не естественными, да что уж там говорить, Чужеземец, это чëрт возьми избранный своего времени, как Реван своего и Энакин своего, этот Чужеземец буквально был причиной смерти Валкортлна, и остановил ритуал Вишейта по поглощению целой Галактике, так же он был лидером Вечного Альянса, именно под его командованием удалось победить Вечную Империю, после чего Чужеземец, занял Вечный Трон, с помощью которого можно было управлять всем Вечным Флотом,так же Чужеземец был одним из тех великих героев, которые раз и навсегда покончили с Вишейтом, когда тот был в своей самой сильной форме когда либо зафиксированной
Theres no fecking way Malgus wont obliterate Vader
people think Vader wins cause he was untouchable in a era where the Jedi and Sith were like not existent almost after order 66 lol when Malgus here survived in an era with thousands of Jedi And Sith which are alot more powerful then the one in the era Vader is from
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This is so bias, 😂
the funny thing is that you guys think Anakin would even win more in reality no
Both are jobbers
Anakin/Vader wins in all versions with no diff
You high bro?
@@The-Allfather-Odin No bro, I just speak what I think. In general, OR is full of overrated fodders with no real feats, Malgus is a good example of this, they simply compare him to Vader for being a robust character with a respirator.
Malgus is better he literally fought jedi and sith and others pretty much on a daily basis
Вейдер сильнее в разы
the only reason why people think Vader is stronger is because he is the most known Sith of all time we have seen him way more then Malgus so we kind of have a better understanding to how strong Vader is compared to Malgus but I think there is a little bit of fanboy in there
@@AlfwhyVaderСильнее почему? Я отвечу, потому что ты фанатик, и как человек выше меня написал, Вейдер является на много известнее Малгуса, что уж там, он икона, и по этой причине появляются не объективные фанбои, готовые до пены у рта придумывать различные факты (их любимому персонажу) , которых не было, по факту придумывая нового персонажа, но так же эти самые фанбои от слова совсем не знают о СР, против которой спорят, и по этому несут не объективный бред
@@SandersseyS Назови мне хоть одну ачиву, по которой малгус превосходит Вейдера, заметь, я отлично понимаю, что допустим тот же Кейдус, Крайт, Сидиус, Валкарион сильнее киборга, но ты ответь мне, по каким критериям и вообще с каких пор, Малгус, отлетавший от ничего не показавшей Сатель-Шан сильнее балансного форсьюзера, кто блицал богов, сотнями вырезал джедаев, подчинял Самма-верминотов?
@@AlfwhyVader Лол,бред, причину я тебе уже называл под другим комментарием насчëт Мальстрима Силы, и не только. И В СМЫСЛЕ БЛЯТЬ НИЧЕГО НЕ ПОКАЗАВШЕЙ САТИЛЬ ШАН?! ты вообще в игру играл, лор читал? Она уже в свои 18 лет предсказала и почувствовала появление Империи Ситхов, в то время как еë учитель,подчеркну это слово Battle Master Ордена джедаев нет, так же Сатиль является одним из самых сильных джедаев всех времëн, и это факт, спорить с этим глупо, она стала Гранд Мастером Ордена Джедаев, ты же вкурсе, что этот титул не дают просто так верно? Да что уж там, он вообще только один, Так же если ты ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО, и не не объективно посмотришь синематик, то ты увидешь, что Сатиль Шан, после того, как Малгус разрубил еë световой меч, она с помощью своего сильнейшего тутаминиса РУКАМИ УДЕРЖАЛА световой меч Дарта Малгуса, и смотря опять тот же синематик, можно сказать что Веранду (так звали Малгуса раньше) по сути побеждал Сатиль Шан, и если бы не Джейс Мальком, который с боку накинулся на Малгуса, то неизвестно сколько бы ещë протянула Сатиль держа меч Малгуса.
Блицал Богов? )) что за бред?)) Когда ЭНАКИН! НЕ ВЕЙДЕР, ЭНАКИИН!!!!!! был на Мортисе, там у него было где-то 50% от всего его полного потенциал, с помощью этого он и смог победить Дочь и Сына Мортиса,а я напомню, на Мустафаре, Энакин лешился большей части своего потенциала, и стал Дартом Вейдерлм, и уже никогда не станет FP Anakin
Так же про джедаев, за десятки лет постоянных войн Малгус убил огромное количество сильнейших джедаев, включая лучших фехтовальщиков своих времëн,таких как Мастер Као Сен (учитель Сатиль) и Вэна Зеллоу, и никто, я повторяю никто не мог ему нормально (за исключением нескольких единиц) противостоять, в то время как Вейдер, убивал и охотился на джедаев, которые во первых прятались, и не использовали силу, а во вторых они были гораздо слабее чем джедаи, закалëнные в вечном горниле войны, которая длилась десятки и десятки лет, и каждый из этих боëв в этих войнах, был всегда безумно ожесточëнным, в котором Малгус сражался с джедаями всех мастей на поле боя,
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Anakin would fold Malgus quite easily so as Vader
Vader/Anakin has always been stronger than Malgus multiple times
But in their primes Malgus would destroy him.
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@@Легоман-щ9с yup. Vader is soo weak 😂😂
@@darkerlighter9470
Vader Weak?
Dude, you know exactly who Vader is and you even know his spirit?
According to Lucas, Darth Vader at the time of the three films of the Original Toyemt Trilogy in 4,5,6 episodes, he is inferior to his teacher Darth Silius by 20%, and Darth Sidious at the time of 1 episode was equal to Plagueis Which in his solo book is described that he is stronger than all the Seahs before himself, and much, not the peak Palpatine in 1 episode was equal to the Plagueis, at the time of the 3rd episode according to the source Insider 100 anakin in episode 3 was equal, and possibly stronger than palpatine at that time, but after mustofar he was weakened and no one denies this, but he was able to force palpatine after Mustofar, yes, in the Legends, after Mustofar, he weakened and was weaker than Palpatine, Getzerion, Talzin's mother, Yoda and Plagueis, but By the 4th episode, Vader regained his strength and became stronger in the 4th episode, he is inferior in Forces only Palpatine
@@Легоман-щ9с at their strongest forms Legends Prime Vader vs Oneness Malgus, Malgus one shots.
wtf Darth Vader would win like nothing. Anakin would also win like nothing -_-
Hell nah
your pfp says it all
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@@The-Allfather-Odin 😂😂
Malgus winnnn
Нет, малгус в отличии от Вейдера не входит в топ 20 самых сильных
@@AlfwhyVaderНет, Малгус не входит в топ 20,он входит в топ 10-15 и это не изменится, потому что ты этого не хочешь и ни черта не знаешь ни о Малгусе ни о СР, так ято тебе стоит об как следует этом позаботится или тебе обязательно перечислять все достижения и подвиги Малгуса?
@@SandersseyS Так ты мне будешь доказывать как малгус сносит Вейдера?
@@AlfwhyVader А ято мне доказывать фанбою ВИ? вы же как непробиваесое бревно, вы слышите только ту правду которую сами хотите, при этом ничего не зная о СР, и яра ротуете мол "Этот чел сносит фул СР" ПРИ ЭТОМ НИЧЕГО О НЕЙ НЕ ЗНАЯ, даже не удосужившись почитать о ней, очень объективно
К тому же под другим комментарием, я тебе написал некоторое о Малгусе, и почему он Вейдера сносит
@@SandersseyS Ахахаха, умный, ты во сне мне написал по каким критериям Малгус сносит Вейдера? Второй на равных с люком был, и достигал 80% мощи от Сидиуса, ты единственное что смог мне "доказать" Так это то что я фанат Вейдера, но сам, по каким ачивам твой Малгус сносит Вейдера, ты не сказал до сих пор, хотя бы скинь источник со сканами, где прям написано, что Малгус сносит Вейдера
Lol cap, vader negs
Oneness Malgus wins beyond neg diff
@@darkerlighter9470 ahahaha cry fanboy, vader stomps no concept of beyond negs diff
@@Vader_GOAT malgus slams.
@@OkIPullUp2915 vader woopes the floor with malgus, lmao
@@Vader_GOAT ur funny bro. Another thing that’s funny is that you dipped from my Revan > Vader proof 👀
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