THE BEST Jobsite Table Saw - Bosch, Dewalt, Makita, SawStop, SkilSaw. How to choose the one for you.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- www.coptool.com... - We took the top 5 most popular Professional Jobsite Tables Out Today (Bosch, Dewalt, Makita, SawStop, SkilSaw) and compared them in several key categories. Check out the results and let us know what you think!
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For people watching this at the end of 2022, and because table saw tech isn't really going to advance much, I'll throw in my take. I used to have the Bosch 4100-09 and I really liked it. It's a great saw and I would still have it, but had to move and it was one of the large items I decided to sell instead of lugging around with me. I made a lot of nice things on the Bosch, in particular speaker cabinets and some furniture. This year I got the Skilsaw SPT99 and while I haven't had a chance to stress-test it, my initial take is that it is a substantially better saw. A lot of the wear items that are plastic on the Bosch are metal on the Skilsaw. The Skillsaw has a better fence that stays true and the worm drive does provide a tangible increase in cutting power. The Skilsaw worm drive saws have lower no-load RPM ratings, but generally they maintain the RPM better under load than direct drive saws will...and if you want a portable table saw then the Skilsaw is definitely the way to go even in 2022.
Well as a cabinet maker who takes a full workshop with me to the job site I can honestly say that my DeWalt never let me down. With close to 10 years of abuse. i bought mine with the older style folding stand. Having said all that, semi retired now and I needed a new table saw on wheels (66 years old...me not the saw) and i got a great deal on the Bosh which I love. I would take either one to a job site. That's my two cents.
EXACTLY ! The older model DW 744 - unbeatable , work 20 years without ANY problem ! Don't buy bosh - germachina company instal chip bearing without cover - after 3 years its replacement . bosh das scheisse !
Edward i am pretty much in the same boat here only i am 60
Bought the portable Dewalt years ago and threw the stand away and mounted it on my rolling work table that has my shaper on the other end and planer and jointer in the middle
About 4 years ago i gave my youngest son the Dewalt and installed a router lift in its place and bought the Bosh and love it
Only thing is at year 4 the bearings is starting go out and the saw has ripped a ton of oak but very few hrs of any daddo blade time
I had the Dewalt 7491RS before I replaced it with the Flexvolt model due to space limitations in my van. That was the only reason, besides going cordless of course. I had none of those issues that you pointed out. The fence on mine was rock solid with no play, the riving knife slipped in and out in secounds, power was never lackning, transportation was easy once you got used to the folding legs. I noticed that you made a wrong move there, the lower legs can be folded simply with your foot.
hows the flex volt? im between that or the skilsaw
Adam McKenzie I really love it, but I hear the skilsaw is good too. I guess it depends on the corded/cordless situation between those two
Mattias Blomqvist im all about cordless so lol check me on instagram if u have it @mwaramps
Adam McKenzie go with FV then. You wont regret it 👍
Same I have it as well and it’s easy to move
I looked at the Bosch, Dewalt and the Makita at Three different stores so I could make a good average assessment of the three makes and all 3 Dewalts had the most stable and accurate fence. Plus having picked up each demo I thought the Dewalt was the easiest to lift and load.
Thank you
While it is a little suspicious that the saw they don’t sell came in last place, I agree with the winner here. There is another great 8 saw head-to-head review where the Skilsaw places 3rd. That review, like a lot of negative reviews out there about this saw, seems to be too critical of it’s “out of the box” accuracy. I disagree with this because I think ANY saw you buy should be calibrated for performance and safety. Also, every saw you buy is going to vary slightly within each brand. You can’t just assume perfect out of box setup based on a review of 1 saw. Maybe if you tested 100 of each you’d get a more accurate review, but even so, I’d still calibrate my new saw. In this age, I’m just not brand-loyal anymore. I used to love Hitachi, and still lean that way on a coin-flip. However, Almost everything is made in China or overseas now, and there are way too many resources like these reviews to help you decide what’s best for you. If you are still brand-loyal, then just buy your brand and be happy...No need to run out and get your Dewalt tattoo covered or get all worked up over somebody else’s opinion. I was actually narrowed down to the Skilsaw and Dewalt, but chose the better motor, torque, and stand.
How do u calibrate a table saw?
Anyone with a Dewalt tattoo should have to have a 'by Black & Decker' butt tattoo.
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@@nutrasweet8325 the manual has the info.
Obviously you can’t expect to make everyone happy with your scoring but here are a couple of things you missed. The Dewalt has a lock mechanism that makes the fence very solid, it has a separate riving knife. You also dinged its miter gauge while complimenting the Sawstop’s cheesy plastic one. The biggest thing you left out of your comparison was rip capacity; 32” for the Dewalt 25” for the Sawstop. I love Sawstop - I’m planning on buying one of their cabinet saws - but this one has too many limitations for the price.
But it wont cut your fingers. That has a price.
@@VaracolacidVesci Not if I don't intend to put my fingers on the saw blade.
@@tonylawrence9157 anyone with that argument is stupid enough to be ignored
NObody intends to, Accidents happen, and tablesaws are certainly on the list of offenders. Personally, I try and use my Festool saw to rip sheet goods to size, I really have no love for ripping 4 x8 sheets so the capacity of any of thse at just over 24" is fine. If you tossed out "Value" the Saw Stop won on features easily. But to each his own.
@@tonylawrence9157
I really like my Dewalt. The rack and pinion system is awesome and the saw does everything I need it to do. I’m far from a Dewalt fan boy. I don’t buy their cordless tools. I have too many dead drills to waste any more money on those. When I was shopping for a job site saw though, I saw that rack and pinion system and immediately knew it was the saw for me. It is so easy to dial the fence in precisely where I want it and there is no need for a measuring tape when using that saw. I completely disregard the ratings on all of the safety features. That junk comes off my saws before I ever plug it in for the first time. Trying to work around cumbersome safety devices is far more dangerous in my opinion. I’ve never had a close call with a table saw and can’t imagine a situation where I will. My digits stay away from the spinning wheel of death.
I have a dewalt saw. It's okay. You got to take it slow with lumber if you want a nice finish accurate cut. The fence sucks. The saw has crapped out on me several times and I maintain it well. But still works. I got different brand tools that work best for what I need. Found out One brand doesn't rule them all. Bull. But did like the skill saw. My buddy has it. Spent the day collaborating on projects and I used that saw. Damn. Feels like a Cabinet Saw Shop minus the fence. I'm not about brands. They're all give and take on different products. But that machine damn well works with 2x4, 4x4, 2x6 and 2x8. That worm drive sold me. I got a 6 1/2 rigid cordless saw they dont make anymore with a worm drive. Love it. Milwaukee surge impact drill. Love it. Dewalt cordless framing circular saw. Love it. You can love your brand. But I love good work without worrying. That Skill Saw spt99-11 is a solid work horse. And that's what I want. It's just a machine. I'm not faithful to the brand. That's my money. That machine quality should be faithful to me.
For two years I've been reviewing compact table and mitre saws and finally bought a Dewalt table saw last week. I looked at Rigid, Makita, Hitachi, SkilSaw, Harbor Tools, Delta, and Bosch and in terms of price, positive reviews and longevity, I chose the Dewalt. I also never saw any product information or heard of a SawStop. I bought the DW745. There is no way I wanted to spend more than $500 on a residential compact table saw, which I'm going to use for hobby projects and minor woodworking. I also wanted something that as a female I could easily move, while many of these table saws weighed over 75 lbs, which also made the Dewalt a clear winner at just under 50 lbs.
The SawStop issue reminds me of the story from year when the Eppipen (the lifesaving self injection syringe for those who have allergies) jumped from $60 to $300 each because the product was purchased by a different company and the owner of the company raised the cost. SawStop could sell many more saws by lowering the cost a bit and they would be saving more people from harm if they did.
Altruism is not the goal of a company founded by 3 patent attorneys.
Festool bought out sawstop.
I have used the Makita and Sawstop at different times for residential finish carpentry. The Sawstop wins by far. One thing you can't test out on first glance is longevity. The cheap plastic gears under the Makita table saw shear off and get clogged full of sawdust even with routine dusting; this combined with the glide bearings loosening (resulting in binding) make it a right bitch to adjust. You can counteract this with maintenance and careful operation but I would rather use the Sawstop with the added benefit of finger safety.
Had a Bosch, lasted about 8 months in and out of the truck. Makita too, lasted about 6 months, burned the motor up. Bought a DeWalt 3 years ago, and abuse the hell out of it. Had to get a new fence, and put a new chord on it. Still using the DeWalt, but I'd love to try the SkilSaw. Durability and accuracy, everything else is just horse manure.
"Durability and accuracy, everything else is just horse manure."
And that is why I returned a Saw Stop after 48 hours.. accuracy lacking.
Il existe d'autres marques excellentes comme metabo ma marque préférée extrêmement robuste résistant j'ai plus machine metabo dont un des tout premiers perforateur que j'ai acheté en 1982 je l'ai utilisé beaucoup il est toujours en parfait état rapport qualité prix très bien placé exemple la degauchiseuse 260 vendues chez moi moin de 800 euros dewalt 1500 euros la metabo un petit peut plus puissante 2200 lorsque j'ai connu metabo dans les années 80 il vendait uniquement au professionnelle quand a la,marque skil pour ceux qui disent que c'est de la,merde j'ai une petite scie circulaires et une perceuse skil j'en suis très satisfait malgré son âge j'ai eu locations de la prêter le gars l'avait laissé dehors dans l'herbe 15 jours sous la pluie lorsque j'ai trouvé ma scie j'ai poussé une gueulante le type me la remboursée je l'ai récupéré pour la j'étais à la poubelle quelques temps plus tard je vais dans mon atelier pour la jeter je la branche avant voir elle fonctionnait toujours du coup j'ai fait un nettoyage je l'ai toujours du black j'en ai eu serie grand public c'est de la merde mais ils ont une gamme professionnelle !
As to the Dewalt, the fence can be aligned by simply loosening the black lock down studs on the front and rear fence bar and adjusting the fence to either the blade or miter slot. Also the Dewalt comes with two riving knives. One for the blade guard and one for used as a stand alone with the blade only. I also noted that you were not properly installing the riving knife on the Dewalt. You should remove the blade cover plate so you can see the slot where the riving knife fits. Trying to do it in the "blind" is very difficult.
Yeah you're just completely right
The dewalt has a separate riving knife. At $450US I don't see how this was rated so low in the price category. The safety guard, riving knife, vacuum port, kickback guard is a work of genius. Like all saws you have to raise the blade to full height to insert the riving knife. Just remove the zero clearance plate to insert then replace. Too easy. Saying it just gets in the way is careless. The fence is certainly solid enough. And the rip capacity is the best. And can accomodate a dado stack.
This video was brought to you by Saw Stop ha obvs
But Skilsaw won?
Kyler Only by 1 point. Lol
Only by one point, and because the Saw Stop is twice as expensive as the others.
G-Shock Jock The vast majority of people using table saws are not using Saw Stop. And the vast majority don’t lose any limbs. So what’s your point?
Uhhh so now if something wins on a video it was sponsored lmao. Let me guess if DeWalt won you wouldn’t be saying the same shit huh.
VERY important note on the Skilsaw ! The Skilsaw 99-12 was tested, it is NOT the one sold at the box stores. The 99-12 has a larger motor and much better fence than the box store model . It has a short auxilary fence that flips into place for extra hand clearance on close rips, the same auxilary fence drops below table height and acts as a material support for the main fence on wide rips It also has a rip capacity of 30.5 inches and the tube frame of the stand is set to table height to act as a material support left of table. I've had this saw a couple months and couldn't be happier with the power and the design features.
Ordered mine over a year ago. Finally getting it this week! Any updates on this initial review?
@@868_4_Life The saw has held up well. The amount of torque still impresses me and I appreciate the push stick always being easy to get to. I have had two issues. The fence lock stopped working one day in very cold weather and had to be adjusted and the lift mechanism has developed a small amount of play so that I am having to put a little (very little) lift at the rear of the motor while raising the blade to keep it from binding. I think I can adjust that but haven't tried yet. All in all I've been happy with this machine.
The only difference between the 99-11 and the 99-12 is the saw blade. The 12 comes with a diablo blade.
I have that exact model Dewalt and have used it plenty over the past 4 years. I added a Ridge carbide blade, zero clearance insert, and JessEm rollers (router version) attached to a Rocker aluminum fence. I posted a photo on my Amazon review. It works great, but like all table saws......isn't perfect. The tabletop is a bit small and isn't dead flat like you would find on a cast iron saw. The miter slot is also a bit sloppy. And in my case, the fence has a tendency to lift upwards because of the force of the rollers pushing down.....but this was fixed by drilling a hole in the plastic fence bracket and adding another lockdown bolt. Out of the 5 saws reviewed, I would most likely choose this one again. The Saw-stop is nice, but you're approaching hybrid saw pricing.
I remember when Skil was a great brand. Maybe it is again. I have a Dewalt DW740 that I picked up for $239 at the homer depot because that model number was being phased out. I love it.
Just ordered the DeWalt since all other reviews are oberwhelmimgly positive. For some reason I get a feeling this video was sponsored by SawStop
Would make since, they kept shitting on DeWalt which that exact model is a huge seller worldwide.. in Israel it's about $1,000 for that DeWalt and it's a top seller (literally can find Israeli's who own it that paid that much after experiencing it at trade shows).
Yep. $1,100 AU.
All the other companies have a saw with similar "flesh sensing technology", but sawstop has sued every single one of them even though they differ slightly.
The SawStop is a great saw, that's why it was well reviewed.
And I think the DeWalt is very popular because of the easy fence adjustment, not necessarily because it's amazingly good.
Love how the guys tried to fold up the DeWalt's legs out of sequence. Apparently they did not read the OM.
Seems you guys hurt a lot of DeWalt fans/owners feelings with this one! Have used the UK versions of the Bosch, DeWalt and Makita saws. The Bosch plainly has the most power. Really like the fence and table extension of the Makita. Quite like Dewalts ability to incrementally wind the fence into position. Little to choose between them to be honest but the Makita is underpowered. Weakest of the 3 I've used.
I like the makita. It does cost more, but you get real tangeble benefits for the money like smooth ramp up and low rpm loss under load, both contribute to keeping your breaker from being thrown. It's also the quietest, one of the most accurate out of the box, and I'm pretty sure it's the only one with a off-break. I think it goes very under appreciated how much more comfortable a few decibels and a rapid off-cycle is until you have to deal with a ripsnot freewheeling saw.
Those are the features I go for too. Also stability and low vibration when using dado set.
I like my Ridgid table saw and it’s Lifetime warranty I’ve had no problems and it performs very well daily .. I use Diablo blades on all my saws
The riving knife on the dewalt is super easy to swap. I'm surprised you guys had such issues. Reminds me of those infomercial that make ordinary people look stupid by failing to do simple tasks. Best part about the dewalt knife is you don't have to take out the blade guard.
Just so everyone knows, coptool is authored by Ohio Power Tool (you can see this if you click on their "about" tab). This company does not sell Dewalt, they do sell Bosch, Makita, Sawstop, and Skilsaw. This isn't an objective review. It's a review geared towards selling more of their products. It's pretty obvious by how they rate the Dewalt.
Chris we are affiliated with Ohio Power Tool, we try not to hide that which is why it's on top of every page of www.coptool.com and in all bios and mentioned frequently. Coptool works as independently as possible so we can get the best results. Coptool's testing and results is much more likely to guide what Ohio Power Tool recommends and sells than vice-versa. We have many tests where Dewalt has won or been 2nd, in the recent "Most Innovative Tools of 2017" Dewalt was the Winner (ruclips.net/video/1gWM5Viwt-w/видео.htmlm32s ). We thought going in to this test it would middle or top of the pack because of it's popularity, again these were all super close in power testing it was not as definitive as we were hoping, so it came down to things like movement in the fence and other smaller details. Again it could be just this one saw that might have had some issues or less power than typical that might of skewed this for any of the tools tested. You should also know most, if not all Tool Review Channels are sponsored by tool brands and/or retailers so you should always be somewhat skeptical of the results, we try to be as upfront as possible about that which is not always the case with others.
Well, along with the fact that the dewalt really is the worst saw in this group.
No Milwaukee. Wow. We’re dunzos
@@roberte362 a Milwaukee jobsite table saw isn't very common... I've never seen one. Most people seem to have the DeWalt.
@@ToolShow I came in here for advice on what jobsite Table saw to buy. (incidentally your vidio helped a lot) However I thought I would mention - whether Chris's opinion of this not being an objective review is valid or not - The fact that you left the comment in place proves to me that Coptool can be a trusted resource for advice on tools. Many Thanks, subbed
Excellent review, this cleared up so many unknowns when buying a tablesaw. I should mention that ohio tool sells the saw for 499 however shipping to my house would cost me $178
Glad you mentioned the REAL ADVANTAGE of the SawStop over the others :)
Wow. I just bought a Dewalt 2 weeks ago. Im glad to see the reviews here that recomend Dewalt. I definatly di not agree with 5th place. Glad i bought the dewalt.
glenncountry dewalt is a damn good saw, if it gets the job done, who cares what other people say lol
these 'testers' probably haven't used these saws for anymore than a day. i have owned the dewalt for around 3 years now, and tried the Bosch and makita. the dewalt is in another league, the bosch and makita don't come close.
I bought this Dewalt several months ago and love it. The fence is awesome and power is great.
"First, we're gonna look at safety!"
(skips ahead in video)
I've used the Skilsaw and it's bad ass, rips 3.5" boards and doesn't miss a beat.
All these safety analyses seem lacking, although this article touches on some of them: A blade guard, riving knife, pawls, and a push stick are all de rigueur at this point, as they are required by law. The real questions that need to be asked in safety comparisons should be:
1. The most obvious: is it a sawstop? 1a. Why is sawstop blocking the adoption of similar technologies in the U.S., like the one Bosch developed, while at the same time lobbying to make it a requirement?
2. Can you rip thin strips without removing the blade guard with the aid of a flip over auxiliary fence, or even better, a thin Euro-style blade guard like the sawstop has?
3. Can you use the blade guard while cross-cutting thick workpieces, or when using a tall auxillary fence on your miter guage?
4. Can you use the blade guard with the riving knife in its low position to facilitate quick transitions from non-through cuts to through cuts and back?
5. Does the saw have an electric blade brake? This is always overlooked and is very important. Notably it's required in Europe.
6. Is the saw accurate out of the box so that your first cuts don't bind?
7. Does the insert plate design allow for easy fabrication of a zero clearance insert in a home workshop with limited tools that will stay in place and allow passage of the riving knife through the insert?
8. Does it accommodate dado blades? If so, is there a dado insert plate available? Europe doesn't allow the use of dados for safety reasons.
I agree with your comment regarding saw safety. However, you went overboard in praising Sawstop. Without their patient infringement lawsuit against Bosch over the REAXX GTS1041A Jobsite Table Saw we consumers would have an additional and perhaps cheaper flesh-detection option.
You don't think Sawstop should have the ability to protect their patent?
Yes, they do and they did. I'm just saying I, as a USA consumer, have less choice. SawStop's patents were issued in the 2000s. They tried in 2014 to make the patent standards essential. Why other manufacturers have not licensed SawStop's IP and incorporated them into products would be really interesting to know. Regardless, these patents will expire in two to three years. More brands of table-saws with flesh-detection safety features should be available then and, hopefully, at lower pricing levels.
@@kamleo1685 Price is why. can't wait to see what happens when the patent runs out.
@@whoDatBeDare SAW STOP was established by three patent attorneys according to reliable sources.
Nothing beats Dewalt!
I think this needs to be revisited. Before reading the comments, I already felt an odd bias against the DeWalt. That, or maybe lack of familiarity or something, really seemed to skew the DeWalt ratings. I'd be interested in noise ratings, too. My father had a Bosch that was so loud he looked for a replacement and I turned down taking it when he broke down his shop a couple of years ago.
A Hitachi won in another Event, on another channel... it's not even represented here. the sawstop only had the safety feature, besides that, it came in last.
I have the skilsaw. It is a fantastic saw. Makes all jobs easier. It's a great tool!! I also can not understand someone buying a dewalts after watching the video
It's inexplicable. People buy on "Feels". Seems like every single Dewalt product I've bought I've either sold used because it was inferior to the competition, or I could see a significant "Dumb" aspect to it. Biscuit cutter had waaaay too much slop. Lets not even discuss the compressor, OMG. The 13" planer sniped and just never could feed properly, really feel like I got a lemon. The 12" version (one model down) I replaced it with is way better but the design of the chip collector and how it screws on is nuts because you can't swing up the outfeet platter, which means the tool takes 2x the space to store. Arrrrg, it's always SOMEthing with them haha, too bad because otherwise it's a very good machine.
Boy you ruffled a feathers boys , keep up the great work!!
In five years my dewalt never let me down, and it’s used HARD.
Dewalt doesn’t need you to bend to fold the bottom legs, use your feet, super easy
Wow! It's not hard to figure out who paid for this video. I mean the saw crapped out while making a simple cut and yet it still scores better than the name brand saws, really.
It didn't crap out... Also, Saw Stop is a name brand well known saw (if not popular because of the cost)
cuchanu In a single country worldwide.
A job site saw that can't take the abuse, then why advertise as jobsite saw. Unless it has some sort of way to disable that "technology". But I guess when you disable that then it turns out just any other lower price saw with a high price tag.
A tip : watch movies at kaldroStream. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies lately.
@Benicio Sterling definitely, I have been using Kaldrostream for since december myself =)
That settles it. Getting the skilsaw with the 8 1/4 blade and rack and pinion. Done. Thanks guys.
I just made the same decision and got my 8 1/4 skilsaw today! A year later after having your skil how has it done for you?
Saw user's ability counts most.
I know, old video, but I agree with your ratings. The fence on the dewalt is a bit finicky with all its pieces, and is not as solid as the others. I purchased the Bosch. Then I found this video and you said pretty much what I found on my own.
The question that i find important is: with all of these saws sitting in your shop and you had a project to build which saw do you grab? That sums up all of the categories except value because its already sitting in your shop.
For me it's a hobby and safety is number one
@@scottroy6195 well, sawstop wins for safety for sure but kind of useless to do a comparison if that was all you were looking for. Let's pretend you didnt cut your finger off, which saw worked the best...
@@mach51 Probably flip a coin really. They are all so good and you may get a great one or a so so of each I bet.
Duh, the Saw Stop. It won handily if you don't use the value category. (Says a Bosch owner)
never had any problems with my dewalt, was all set up out of the box
Dewalt has another riving knife that's separate from the blade guard (you get two riving knifes, essentially), if I'm not mistaken.
I LOVE THE WHEELS on the Skil Saw Buggy. EVERY LAST ONE OF these saws will get the job done very well so which one is my choice? Let's just say that I really like a yellow and black paint job on a Corvette!
Girl's choice.
@@tonylawrence9157 So, What is the boy's choice?
WOW!!! This review makes me so happy. For about a year now I had my
heart set on the Dewalt. I have a Bosh 12" Glide Compound Miter Saw. I also use Bosch for my routers. I have Dewalt drills and brad nailers. I have a few Skilsaw circular saws. So I'm not set on any brand per se. Last month I logged on to Amazon to buy the Dewalt table saw but decided to do one last sanity check on what was out there. That's when I saw the new Skilsaw job site table saw. After looking at the specs and using my common sense I came to the same conclusion y'all did in this review. I went ahead and bought one and it has been simply amazing. This review wasn't on RUclips when I purchased my Skilsaw table saw and I am so glad that it is available now. You basically say all the things that I have been telling my mates for the past month about how awesome the Skilsaw is. It eats through everything I throw at it. Amazing power. The miter gauge sucks and I wish the power cord was longer. But that's being very picky and honestly...what factory miter gauges DON'T suck. Big wheels! Can't go wrong. Let's try and convince the luggage manufacturing sector of that also :) Great review and feel totally vindicated in my decision to go with the Skilsaw.
Alex, we've been very impressed by the SkilSaw for value, wormdrive power and other features. We've still found some small annoyances like you said but if you want to use it for more precision work you should consider some upgrades on any "jobsite" table saw. To be fair to the Dewalt here we deliberately picked 5 great pro saws we think are all good for professional use. We left out some other options from Ridgid, Hitachi, Delta and others which we would guess Dewalt likely would outperform many of those as it still really is a good saw.
Agree with you 100%. For me the worm drive technology, oversized wheels, gravity rise stand (which is almost magical in that I can operate it with two fingers!), larger engine (over older Skilsaw table saw) with faster cooling were all huge plus points for me. The main reason I was going with the Dewalt was the 32" rip capacity (right hand side) and rack and pinion fence. Since the Skilsaw has a 30.5" rip capacity and essentially the same (but more stable) rack an pinion fence.....it was a no brainer. Add to that that it's $499 from acmetools.com and they throw in a free Skilsaw sidewinder circular saw and it's a win all round. Spent the whole weekend behind my table saw making cuts for a project and it was an absolute pleasure. Thanks again for the awesome review. I just subscribed :-)
Alex Reid crappy fence adjustment !- Shaky n wobbly to move !- have the saw stop copy too !
thanks for the comments guys, i'm not even going to watch the video. I appreciate real people making me not waist my time
These are some very randomly given scores... My money would be on either the Bosch or the DeWalt even after watching this. Never mind the arbitrary scores, there are many minor aspects (which compound to become major factors) that makes a saw worth having.
Agreed, the Bosch and DeWalt are great site saws but for me the DeWalt wins because it has a much better fence.
I bet the people at Sawstop weren't too happy hearing they only beat a Skill saw by 1 point. The concept of Sawstop is great but it's not like their saws are head and shoulders above everyone else in quality. If you keep the blade guard on, you don't have to worry nearly as much about cutting yourself. The problem was that most saws weren't made to have a guard so a lot of people hurt themselves. But more people hurt themselves due to kick back than cutting themselves. When Sawstop gives their statistics they fail to note injuries due to kickback are included.
Kickbacks dont remove your hand. You just get a bruise and maybe shit your pants.
You guys are crazy the dwalled saw is so easy to change I did it on my 1st time with out any problems
I think the value of the SawStop was completely underestimated. Yes it’s expensive, very expensive, but no matter how long you’ve been a woodworker, no matter how many years you’ve been using a table saw, the day you wish your saw blade could stop in 5ms is the day you wish you went the extra $500.
I have been considering the Skilsaw with the worm drive motor. Thank you for this review! You have helped me confirm this decision.
Did you end up getting it? If so, how's it been?
Tripping the breaker is a disqualifier for me then add in that you can get almost 2 for the price of 1 Sawstop is the other disqualifier
I've used all of these saws including the portable versions. saw stop wins hands down. saw stop has a lot of little accessories and features that were not mentioned. as for value, its priceless, the fact that you'll never cut off a finger(s) or worse is worth every penny. combined with 1 turn height adjustment, micro bevel adjust, and superior dust collection.
I'm surprised you had issues with the Dewalt fence, I've heard nothing but great things about it.
I went with the baby brother of the Skilsaw for 2 reasons, value and capacity. It can cut a 4x4 (3.5") in one pass.
Good review.
You "heard" great things? I HEARD the earth is flat. Does not make it true, idiot.
@@SOLDOZER what a ignorant comment...most people do hear great things about dewalt. Id hope you already know the earth is not flat....we are comparing multiple table saws...not the shape of a planet
now i want to see project farm do a video on these saws.
It seems to me like they were all very good. I am planning to buy the Bosch only because someone is selling me one for $300.
Outstanding deal.
I watched a vid @ a Concord carpenter who had this the other way around.
On his, the Hitachi won overall. With the dewalt in 2nd and the skilsaw was 3rd. These saws are all close in performance. With the tests that concord did, and then watching these... I think it's between the dewalt and skilsaw. I think either saw will be great. But I did like that the skilsaw didn't slow down when cutting during this test.
Compared to this presentation the Concord Tool video was professional and objective.
As a production finish carpenter there is not a better saw than the DEWALT and it is the most powerful job sight saw I have ever had.
You're right dewalt is the best hands down, 15 yr finish carpenter here telling you its the best. And you can remove the guard from the knife.
Cabinetmaker of 10yrs here and I'd agree with you, it's the only saw I install with
I'd like to ask if you've used all or many other brands in a direct comparison (Please don't get upset for minor criticism.) Or have you just had a Dewalt for so long and just know exactly how it works and what to expect?
Yes I also would like to know if you have tried others. I am in the market for new saw
I have used the bosh and the ridged and they are fine when you first start using them but the don’t hold up.
SawStop JSS-MCA is one of the best table saw on the market this year.
cool review but would have liked to know how the saws got 7/10 for accuracy, like where were points taken off and was it just out of the box and adjustable to a higher score?
Thumbs up if your a dewalt fan and own lots of them ! 👍🏻
The most honest review
This is the only video that I have watched that claims the Dewalt has issues with the fence or tool storage. It seemed as though SkilSaw had a lot to do with how the categories were graded. This is also the first video that has graded the SkilSaw well in power and accuracy. Just by watching this video, I can tell that I wouldn’t subscribe to this channel. Not a lot of integrity in the review. While I agree that the SawStop is probably the better of the five because of the safety, the DeWalt is clearly a better saw that the others. Good luck Cop Tool at being able to maintain a following with this kind of skewed testing.
The butthurt runs deep
damn people ae seriously upset over a brand jeez lolll are you a share holder or something ?? ahahah
Say as you will about that DeWalt, but I've tossed my table for it broke. The fence has been replaced at $90 Canadian and my fence now is on its last leg.
I bog that saw out all the time ripping hardy.
I do however love the 32 1/2" rip it makes, though it would be nice if the extension arms have more strength to them.
You do have to watch out after ripping a mitre to set back to true, the fence is stupid easy to line back up.
The issues I've mentioned are easy to overcome, but it is underpowered and I have used the bosch one as well with my biggest peeve being it's a pita to clean.
watching you guys struggle with the knife was really funny. just pop the plate off and you can see the locking mechanism
I’m very happy with my Hitachi C10RJ I got on Black Friday for around $275! Retail about $399.99 but still a very good deal. I’ve used other table saws and this one gets the job done just like the others.
I’m really impressed in what skilsaw has done with their new worm drive saw, along with their classic worm drive circular saw.
Having the Metabo (Hitachi) would have been good. My next saw will be the Sawstop, already had one leg amputated, like to keep my fingers.
Hey, with a video of more than 15 minutes we do not know:
Which has the soft start or the best? Which one has the best brake?
What is the best dust port? What is the noise of each one?
Wake up guys, we are in the year of 2018!!!
Thanks for watching!
SawStop is the only saw with a brake. Bosch includes soft start circuitry and the Skilsaw effectively has soft start through their worm drive motor. The Dewalt, Makita and SawStop do not utilize soft starts. I can't say which has the best dust port as they're all relatively the same when used with a vac. However, if you don't have a vac, Skilsaw has a 45 deg. elbow attachment for their dust port so you could point down to a bucket and collect some of the debris. We've run tests on noise but didn't find much of a difference in each model.
coptool Thank you
They didn't fool with answering these questions because the SawStop wouldn't have one in those important categories, and you can't make the company that paid for the advertisement look bad in their sponsored video.
Angry welder, yes, they answer, you can see here.
In this test SawStop is the only saw with a brake
Saw Stop is the best saw out there. Nothing else compares.
The BBQ Jerk for that price I would hope so!
Great review. This is exactly what I needed. As a novice woodworker, I always equated Skilsaw with brands like Black & Decker. Glad I've been proved wrong!
Apples and oranges. Sawstop is the only one with flesh detecting technology. It’s also very well made. We have three. The other two are Altendorf sliders.
coptool--enjoyed your informative video. My two bits worth: I think you should change the "Value" category to "Cost" as value can imply worth or usefulness, not just cost.
just bought a Bosch for $411! on amazon 10/10 value
eXCELENT !! value is the result of what you paid against what you get ( so , which one has the best ratio ?? )
Nice final comment about the sawstop I was wondering exactly what you addressed about the value score.
With the "top end" Contractor saws, you are splitting hairs with the top brands. I have used them all, Bosh, Milwaukee, DeWalt, etc... You have to understand what these saws are, they are saw's designed to MOVE, be light enough to move to a job site by people that need them to make straight cuts/rips.
They are NOT cabinet saws, per se, but you can use them in that manner if you get one and decide to take the time to tweak them, make sure it's all square and flat. You can use any of them to make some very nice things if you take the time, make a few jigs, and use a very good blade.
I use the DeWalt because it's available everywhere, is a great saw out of the box, you can purchase upgrades if you wish, rack and pinion fence, and room for a dado stack of 13/16. These are not cabinet saws, but the with the price of under $1000 bucks, they just can't be, and they will all work best in a stationary setting, like a built in table. Take the time to measure and tweak them to the tolerances you want, use a good blade, and enjoy many years of use.
A blade guard?What’s that used for.
Here's one thing you should realize about these portable saws. The Dewalt stand might be a bit more difficult to breakdown and move, but there is a reason.....and it's worth the trade off. Better stability. Having four angled legs makes it far more stable than two legs + two wheels. They even mentioned the Dewalt was the most stable in the video. If you have ever tried cutting a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood by yourself on a portable saw.....you will understand. A two wheeled version will roll on you while trying to cut.
Just checked in on the Skilsaw at $499..... thanks!
I bought the SS before seeing this but it would not have made any difference. I bought it for the safety factor, period.
What about Ridgid? Anybody? I've had one for a few years and it's been a work horse. Zero problem....I remodeled my house using it.
For me accuracy is the most important so Makita for me 😉
I sure would have liked to see them rip some 5/4 oak at 45 and "show us" the result. Are we getting blade/arbor runout ? Is the rip silky smooth ? Or heck, get some hard maple make some 22.5 rips and make an octagon and SHOW it to us... seeing is believing.
How are the values for Bosch and DeWalt the same for price when DeWalt is $50 cheaper. And sawstop is more than 2x the price of the DeWalt and is only 2 points lower? You arbitrarily threw out scores.
These are all good brands so value is obvious, we are looking at price.
If DeWalt and Bosch are an 8 then saw stop is a 4-5 in price category.
Ryan Irving Fair point. Thanks for your input!
I disagree that it's not purely price. Let's say saw a and b are the same price, but B is 5 points higher on everything else, it should get a better value score.
@@scottroy6195 read my comment. It was talking about purely the values they attached to the price category, not the saws as a whole.
My comment on the end was to qualify that all these jobsite saws are good quality and all are going to do a similar job. When your looking for a jobsite saw whether it's bosch, dewalt, rigid, makita; they are all basically the same, it comes down to price and brand loyalty. The sawstop really shouldn't even be in this comparison as it's a gimmick, any contractor that uses one either just wants to promote an image or has heavy brand loyalty.
I am seriously looking at the sawstop 1, because i am the breadwinner and a firefighter and losing fingers would be bad, and 2 my oldest son is high function autistic and just the security of having that function could really be worth it in the long run.
I have the Sawstop JSS and couldn't be happier. I also am a Firefighter and loosing a finger because of my hobby would cause me to potentially loose my career, so $500 more for that insurance was a easy decision.
Well I' ve been wood working for over 40 years now and I have all my fingers. The ecyra cost for the saw stop is more then I need. Besides do you know that if saw stop goes it's around $75 to get it going again.
I have had my Sawstop for 3 years and have never set off the safety feature, so I don't worry about the $75. Good for you for being a woodworker for 40 years without ever having a injury. I have been driving my car for almost 30 years without a accident but I still put my seatbelt on. There is no correlation between a accidental injury and your years of practice. Like I said being a 17 year Firefighter/Paramedic I have yet to respond to a 911 industrial accident where the person told me they did it on purpose. Accidents can happen to any of us. Its a personal decision that we all must make but the $500 one time premium is a worth while insurance for not only me but my family by preventing a injury that would cost me my career.
yes I know that and I just bought one. it is what it is. You pay for car insurance every year but usually don't need it so I loom at it that way.
My buddy has only 2 fingers on his dominant hand. He handles 1 3/4 hose like anyone else lol
My Ryobi even has an easy riving knife adjustment. No excuse at these prices.
For guys who supposed to know tools, fail. Anyone who pulls a board through from the outfeed side while my hands are pushing gets one warning and then they are banned from anything that requires thinking. Pretty obvious SawStop bias here. I'll look for a more objective and experienced bunch of guys to believe. Nice try Coptool, but you don't really fool anyone.
7/10 accuracy and winner, are you two joking!!!
There is a lot of Dewalt hate in this video. I've had mine for 2 years now, and none of the issues you are pointing out. I'd also add you failed to account for the cost of the ambulance ride, insurance deductible, time off work, and costs of rehab -WHEN- you inevitably cut yourself, when factoring the value of the Sawstop.
That 2 x 6 was probably too wet on the sawstop. Nothing to do with power. What you might have experienced is a wet wood overload.
Wrong, if that was the case, they would of had to replace the safety mechanism.
There's a clear bias against dewalt. Dewalt always seemed to have the least to be said about it.
It's hard to believe this comparison, because it is so far away from many other reviews/comparisons.
Dewalt's riding knife change difficult? It's fence not precise? That are the most appreciated factors!
Take a look at this comparison :
ruclips.net/video/5oi5BTKl2hY/видео.html
Much more into facts!!
Thanks for the link. I'm looking at a table saw at present. I would give you 100 x thumbs up if I could. This is a bench mark standard review that makes the "Coptool" review look like a joke. I'm going to go for Dewalt, seems best value for quality, features and affordability. My table saw will stay in workshop.
Dewalt comes with a riving knife without the blade guard. I end up taking the throat plate out when changing out the two
Weird. In all other head to head videos for table saws Dewalt usually places in the top 3 or 2. Here.... dead last. Seems..... fishy. And for those thinking I'm a Dewalt fanboy..... I don't even own a table saw.
I had the Mikita , now I have the Dewalt, the Dewalt is much better than the Mikita,
What you are doing in this video is not safe. Your assistant pulling the wood through the saw is exactly how Tommy Caldwell (the climber) lost his index finger. If the saw kicks back, the assistant's hand can be pulled directly into the blade. This is unlikely when she's standing far back from the saw, but there are moments in the video where she's standing close. *Never* pull material through a table saw.
Jay Bailey Good advice Jay. Thanks for looking out for us.
I have use the bosh and the rigid and they start out fine but they won’t stand up to heavy use on the job sight.
But but wait we're not done yet.... what about ripping size capacity, dado blades, and weight of each saw including their stand and with out stands. I feel like this video is sponsored by skill.
How many of them have dado capability? That would definitely be a plus...
This was awesome - thanks