Roger Moore is on record as saying the 2CV was his favourite ever Bond car, because unlike all the fancy sports cars no one was worried about wrecking the 2CV so he got to actually drive it for a lot of that scene!
Obscure card game knowledge for the win: James Bond is actually playing Chemin-de-fer, which is the original game on which Baccarat is based. It’s basically the same, except the dealer changes from round to round.
The fun part is that this movie for me solidified that because when I did my watch through I was like Matt where my research and how the game was played didn't match up and then Cristatos in the dinner scene says something along the line of "I'll go and play some Chemin." and I didn't know what that was looked it up and said "Ohhhhhhhhhh".
@@dreyn7780 lmao you good bro? You seem really obsessed with finding children in this comment section. Is there something you wanna tell us about why you wanna be talking to little kids?
A few years ago, during the promotion tour of his memoir, Roger Moore did an interview with the New York Times, and they specifically showed the Lotus break-in scene and 2CV chase during the event. After the scene ended, Moore said that during screenings, the city that they were screening in was having a spree of car robberies. Once the car blew up, the entire audience boisterously cheered. Also, the "strut" of a helicopter is called a "skid".
Okay, but in James' defence: "I'm not sure I know anything about that, but here's what I know" is probably the most actual spy thing James Bond has ever said or done, because in order to be a good spy you have to be constantly collecting information, but never trusting any of it. You could be wrong, you could be getting fed false information (even from your own people), something could've changed since the last time you checked in with it. That's just sensible caution, I think, even if from a meta perspective it makes him look like an arrogant little shit (in the good way).
I remember that it's a major part of the books that Bond spends most of his time just reading loads of reports and only gets to go on an assignment once or twice a year.
Walther PPK: that weapon fell out of favor with the Brits when Princess Anne's bodyguard had one jam on him in an armed shootout with a kidnapper back in 1974. Worth looking up; the kidnapper argued with the Princess for a good ten minutes while various rescuers appear out of the woodwork and get promptly shot at by the kidnapper. The Princess' retort to the kidnapper's demand: "Not bloody likely and in any event I haven't got two million pounds." Said kidnapper was eventually arrested when he tried to run away.
Everything in Archer is a parody of James Bond, i.e. they play up Bond's character trait of knowing weird, obscure things as a character trait of Archer.
I am ashamed that it took me this long to think of this: But why is there not a power rankings for the Q branch scenes too? Matt saying "This Q branch scene is not their best one." and now I have to know which one is the best one!
"Can't you tell your submarines it's time to change your password?" Actually no, that's the whole point of a code computer like ATAC was meant to represent. You could tell them all to make port and then do the physical changing of the keys (though who knows how many operations you're blowing up by doing that) but the problem with that is submarine commanders are in full control of their boats - they have full command authority to decide not to make port and keep operating... and then you've got a real problem. In short, the handling of the threat of the ATAC is pretty apt in this movie. The plot hole is the fact that it didn't have some kind of automatic failure/self destruct mode when submerged in a hundred feet of seawater, and all of the missed opportunities to just destroy the damned thing instead of recovering it.
To be fair, them not having a failsafe destruct from when it's submerged in 100 feet of water feels like something they'd have in real life. For how destructive nuclear weapons are, the governments that posses them are incredibly cavalier about keeping them safe. I.e. the missing nuclear bombs from Thunderball is a thing that has happened in real life (there are 6 missing nuclear weapons). That Denzel Washington movie Crimson Tide is based on how the commanders of nuclear submarines had the ultimate authority to launch their missiles, though that has fortunately since changed.
Unforgiveable that Carole Bouquet was dubbed. She can speak English perfectly well. The saving grace is that she spoke her character's lines for the French version.
Legally distinct Blofeld: "Mr. Bond! We can do a deal! I'll give you a delicatessen in stainless steel!" Bond: "Alright, keep your hair on" AND THEN HE PATS HIS BALD HEAD so good
Tiny thing, and I hate to be that guy, but 1969 and 1981 aren't twenty two years apart, they are twelve years apart. Thanks for the great work, love this and most other LRR content!
Pretty ridiculous mistake actually. They're mocking that this was done "22" years later (which I might have agreed with), but 12 is actually a good time for adding a nostalgic scene like that IMHO. Glad you pointed it out.
I'm glad Editor Matt had a shot of the Tofina 10AM mirror bit, because I definitely thought it said Tofina Loam (or Ioam?) in my watch this week, and was very confused.
I thought Columbo was the one called The Dove, and the whole thing with Locque and his dove pin was a deliberate ploy to mislead Bond into believing that he worked for Columbo? Also, my family's copy of this movie is on VHS, so that made for an interesting experience. There were definitely a lot of small details that were way harder to see! And also the audio quality wasn't great, for whatever reason. I also really enjoyed this movie! I'd vaguely remembered liking it a lot previously, and I was happy to find that it lived up to that memory.
You thought correctly--Kristatos says something about how Columbo having the nickname "the Dove" is apropos (apparently expecting the audience to know that Columbidae is the scientific name of doves). This is why the men that come out of the water have doves on their wetsuits--they work for Columbo, and it's his trademark, which Kristatos and Locque were appropriating earlier to frame him. Incidentally, when Q points out that there are a ton of churches called St. Cyril's but then it cuts to Bond at the correct St. Cyril's, Columbo explains that he and Kristatos used to hang out there as Greek resistance fighters in WWII. I think Matt and Graham missed that as well since they seemed confused about how Bond knew which St. Cyril's to go to.
The Compromise Theory of Walther PPK Usage: The Walther PPK is standard issue for all MI6 agents, but at any one time, James Bond is the only field agent working for MI6 who is not about to die, so everybody knows it must be him.
Was anyone else disappointed when they were talking about Julian Glover, they didn't mention that he also played Walter Donovan in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (with Sean Connery) and Grand Maester Pycelle in Game of Thrones (this one was really weird since they mentioned GoT with Charles Dance's bio)
@@loadingreadyrun To be fair, Pycelle and Aristotle are two drastically different characters. I recognized Charles Dance immediately and knew exactly where I had seen him, but I had to google Julian Glover to remember where I had seen him.
41:44: "Well, actually..." That thing Bond is holding in the still frame is not a tape. It's a disk pack, which was common among IBM "small" computers and mainframes of the 1960's and 70's. This one looks very much like an IBM 5444. The fact that it's mounted in the drive flat further supports this (nine-track tapes were usually mounted vertically). Basically it's the grandfather of the SyQuest cartridge. 49:10: Guys! You are _totally_ leaving out Julian Glover's role as Scaroth, last of the Jaggeroth (you have to say the whole thing) in the Doctor Who serial _City of Death_ written by the great Douglas Adams (and which also starred Catherine Schell, who _also_ appeared in OHMSS). 2:09:30: There are no shortage of UK natives who would be more than prepared to give you a closely informed earful on this but, at its most basic, Thatcher was the UK counterpart to Ronald Reagan, whose legacy is, among many other things, shredding the social safety nets, busting labor unions, and manufacturing tax breaks for the wealthy. Unlike Reagan, however, Thatcher didn't have Alzheimers as a post-hoc excuse for her perfidy -- she knew exactly what she was doing.
Opinion on her policies notwithstanding, I think it's more interesting and relevant to note that the circa 1981 depiction of Thatcher seen in this movie is very much at odds with the stern, formidable "Iron Lady" persona we are more familiar with today. Prior to the Falklands War and the armed confrontations with the coal miners' unions the prevailing view of Thatcher's premiership was very much coloured by sexist incredulity that a woman was prime minister and she (and her husband) were generally thought of as silly and unimpressive.
As an adult I'm not much of a fan of the Roger Moore era anymore, but this might be my favorite Roger Moore Bond film. The mountain climbing scene has really stayed with me.
That's not actually true. She certainly was (very!) unpopular in Scotland, but always had Scottish MPs (between 10 and 22). It was only in 1997 (following Tony Blair's victory) that the Tories were wiped out in Scotland
many thanks for the skiing explanation. Ive seen this movie more times than i can count but as a complete non-skier i never knew about the different types of skis going on.
I have a theory why people can't remember the 80s Bond films as well/think they are bad and are surprised when they enjoy a revisit -- John Glen's Direction. His movies all move at a decent pace (and to be clear I like some of them a lot), but they all suffer from sudden tonal shifts and strange plot structural issues. Big moments are played for laughs, the movies as a whole can't decide what threads are important, and they all have too much pastiche to the point they get confused with other movies. The opening scene of this one sums that up pretty well.
John Glen's Bond films lacked flair. He wasn't a bad director but I think he functioned better as a second unit director and editor. I recall an interview Carey Lowell did when promoting Licence to Kill and she stated that Glen cared more about the action than story or character development.
@@ricardocantoral7672 It really does feel like his movies were plenty of very good scenes without an overarching vision. There are amazing beats, but Bond changes between silly and serious constantly, as do the other characters. It's more of a grab-bag of what they wanted for the moment (which is often just Bond movie callbacks). And the plot/scripts are often very good, which is why I hang it on him, not the rest of the production. Someone needed to put it all together... again, I like For Your Eyes only, and I love The Living Daylights, so it worked somewhat. But I understand people not remembering them well.
@@wendigo2064ify Tonal and character inconsistencies were an issue especially in Licence To Kill. Throughout the film, Bond's characterization fluctuated constantly. He was either a irritable, self centered, reckless, asshole or darkly charismatic. Whatever the scene demanded at the time. Also, the writers just seemed to have no confidence in the darker material so they balanced out the dark stuff with a comical bar room brawl, Wayne Newton as a televangelist, and a totally out of out of character Q appearing in a supporting role.
I'll put in a defense of winter biathlon (cross country skiing and rifle shooting BTW)- it's the only modern sport that harkens back to the military origins of the Olympics. It also nicely breaks up all the figure skating and downhill skiing that make up the rest of the games normally.
Modern Pentathlon with the running shooting fencing horse riding and swimming was actually set up by Pierre de Coubertin as what a soldier should be capable of (in 1896)
I'm having a blast with these. Between the insights into the film and Matt G's superb editing, its been fun revisiting the series. Can't wait for next week. ^_^
I cannot tell you the joy I felt at having the two of you confirm you like this film! For years I have told people in vain it is a top Bond film only to be given strange looks!! Now I have proof I am not insane!!! Great podcast btw, great series.
Julian Glover isn't just The Empire Strikes back, but also The Last Crusade, and of course Game of Thrones. Same as Charles Dance. Not sure if the two would ever have met on the sets of either, though.
"For Your Eyes Only" is in my Top 3 Favorite James Bonds thanks to how excellent the character acting is in this movie. Everyone feels like real characters, good personalities, good emoting, good acting. The Action is so so, but its very limited. Multiple great stunts and chase scenes.
Love these podcasts. It's weird to me how I never thought of myself as a Matt Wiggins superfan, but it seems like I'll watch ANY movie review podcast that has Matt, and absolutely love it. With James, with Graham… the common denominator is Matt and I just can't wait to hear more. Cheers, Matt! You are great at this! :D
The greatest tragedy of this franchise may be that we didn’t get a title sequence featuring a giant close-up of Blondie wearing the hair from the album cover for The Hunter.
I saw this when it came out and reviewed it positively for my college newspaper at the time. Glad to see you guys recognize and appreciate that it's a solid Bond flick.
I honestly consider this to be the best theme song any Bond film has ever had, as well as the best credits scene. Also, there's a fourth original Ian Fleming Bond story whose name has never been used, but honestly, it's an even worse option. '007 In New York' is the title. In comparison, 'The Hildebrandt Rarity' wouldn't be bad at all.... And as for the candelabra and its spikes, that is in fact what a medieval wrought iron candelabra has. The spikes are there to impale the candles on so they don't inadvertently fall to the ground as they melt away and risk setting things on fire.
anyone else that's listening to the podcast version notice that the file you download for this episode has the normal title followed by "THIS ONE MATT"? I got a chuckle out of that
Hey LRR! I’m planning on using From Rewatch with Love in my Pop Culture class that I’m teaching. I figure Bond is big enough to warrant a class on Pop Culture lol.
I love watching these films vicariously via this podcast because, based on the descriptions, I would not remotely enjoy watching an actual Bond film. This show is great, though! (And the films probably are, too, but not my thing)
It definitely is more fun to watch the movies than hear them described. These podcasts are so great for the analysis and interplay and ranking though. The movies are not high art or anything, but solid action movie blockbuster levels.
@@FFKonoko It's not that they don't sound fun, I'm just not much of an action movie person. Plus, while I love the idea of the whole spies-and-gadgets thing, I find the core character of James Bond to be profoundly grating (just personally). This podcast is the best way for me to consume these movies.
After my Nth rewatch of this rewatch I've finally realized that all the instances of the the drunk dude double take in the three movies are in Italy: Sardinia in the Spy Who Loved Me, Venice in Moonraker, and Cortina d'Ampezzo in For Your Eyes Only
I was shocked that they didn't bring it up. I know Conti had his fans, but I find this score to be so distracting. It really impedes my enjoyment of this movie.
There are flashes of brilliance within Conti's score, the music during the battle with the JIM suit and Bond discovering Luigi's body were particularly well done. Unfortunately, most of the music is derivative Rocky/Disco junk.
It is literally a Bond parody. Archer is more accurate to Bond's physical description in the books than any other screen Bond. Also he drinks as much as actual book Bond... just doesn't smoke as much 😆
The 'up yours' pre-credit sequence was allegedly also originally intended to provide continuity while introducing a new actor as Bond when they thought Moore wasn't returning to the role. Ditto the hat throw. It was meant to act as soft reboot to a 'grittier' and more 'grounded' Bond, in the manner of the earliest films.
43:12 honestly i wouldn't put it past them that 1: mi6 hides q branch by not putting many guards around to avoid drawing attention to the heavily guarded facility or 2: q is doing all this as a hobby. maybe he formally retired sometime ago, but keeps going because he enjoys making handheld death traps.
As for the ice hockey jerseys: the yellow jersey ist from Jamaica - the Kingston Wailers, the red jersey ist from the Peoples Republic Kongo (dissolved in 1991) - the Kinshasa Rumblers, and the blue jersey is from Thailand - the Bangkok (K)Nights.
I've been wondering why sometimes it seems like after someone says something, the other person will just go strong into the next topic immediately as if to say 'we're done with that topic' and then I realized that it's probably just the editing cutting out the dead air.
Fun fact that scene of bond getting dragged behind the boat over coral is actually from the books(live and let die) where in the book it is quite tense and how bond escapes is before he was captured managed to place a mine on the underside of the boat unnoticed, the whole time you are wondering whether it’s a dud or whether the fuse will blow up in time and in fact does while bond is over the middle of a coral
Something that bothered me throughout the video: Columbo is the Dove, not Locque. The dove pin Locque left by Luigi was done to aid Kristatos in framing Columbo. That's why when we first see Columbo, he's wearing dove cufflinks and his men are wearing doves on their wetsuits.
I always thought of this as probably the best Moore, and definitely the most serious of his, despite some silly moments. Moore was much more visible on pay TV in the 80s, and his lighter style was becoming the new normal. "Never say Never" was a bit of a revelation, reminding us that Connery Bond could quip, but he was tough and confindent, and Moore was smug. Since by your remarks, you have some Anime knowledge, are you familiar with "Safari (Saphire) Eyes"? The opening song for the Dirty Pair Movie (Project Eden)? Several of the Pair's adventures were or contained Bond Pastiches (and also pastiched "The Terminator", and "The Gauntlet", and several others). For "The Movie" all the stops were pulled, it opens with a classic Bond cold open (with rather more collateral damage than usual). And then the song kicks in and it's amazing (it's also available in HD on RUclips). Considering it came out half a year ahead of Living Daylights, "Eden" is also arguably a better Bond than what we were getting then. And of course, if you mention Japan and Bond you have to bring up Golgo 13, who was created when the Bond Manga got copyright enforced. This is one series that's never really lost sight of the core audience (low-level overworked and jaded white-collar workers), unlike Bond who in the movies is very much aimed at the mass audience.
I don't care about hockey in the slightest, but the penalty breakdown in the middle of this video was wildly entertaining and made me want to follow hockey more.
The version of Baccarat played in Bond films is called "Chemin de Fer", which differs from the modern style of "Punto Banco". That's why it always seems Bond is playing one-on-one...because that's how Chemin de Fer is played.
As someone who’s relistened to this podcast multiple times now and for whom the opening theme song for _For Eyes Only_ ranks among their top three faves (totally personal preference), I love the fact that in _You Only Twice_ you two call out this theme as your “by far least favorite” and kind of dump on it. And then when you finally get to this movie and actually relisten to it you both agree that while it’s not your faves it’s actually pretty good. Which to be fair this by far is one of the most iconic of the ballads and most of the rest of the ballads are lackluster and/or forgettable. So by association of this one being the most iconic of the ballads, it’s easy to assume this one is also lackluster as well if it’s been awhile since you listened to it. I just find it amusing that when people actually go listen to it there response is “Actually this isn’t half bad”
Point of order: 1969 to 1981 is 12 years, not 22. I know the answer is, "because the movie would be over" but it bends credulity that they would dive to the ATAC machine and not simply destroy it, thus ending the problem immediately. Also I just realized: hey doesn't this leave a mostly intact nuclear submarine with it's nuclear warheads just sitting in the open for known criminals to peruse? I'll admit I was only half listening to the plot synopsis.
The ship at the start isn't a submarine. It's a disguised military intelligence vessel that has an ATAC. Presumably to relay orders to nearby submarines
Seeing Charles Dance pop up in this film has reminded me of some trivia. Charles Dance played Mr. Tulkinghorn in the 2005 adaptation of Bleak House, a role formerly played by fellow GoT star Peter Vaughan in 1985, alongside Bond/GoT star Diana Rigg. I never expected so many connections between James Bond, Charles Dickens/Bleak House, and Game of Thrones but...neat.
re: Carry On films.... I would be lying if I said I hadn't hoped for a Graham Stark podcast about these highly variable pieces of cinematic fluff. The last one was Carry On Columbus in 1992. It was not a return to form.
@@loadingreadyrun hoo boy, do they ever. Carry On Screaming, Carry On Spying and Carry On Up the Khyber are my favourites, but the "this is problematic" discussion on any podcast could consume the entire time.
40:44 The Identygraph-Wireframes look like the Douglas Adams BBC-series of "The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy"-images which came out of the "No Panic"-Book (The actual guide).. Since both (For your eyes only AND named TV-series) came out in 1981.. was it the same creating-group ?
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Blofeld is the cat, the human is Blofeld's monster.
The human is Blofeld-the-Cat's Stand.
Only if he comes from the Gdynia region of Poland, otherwise he's just Sparkling Evil.
Roger Moore is on record as saying the 2CV was his favourite ever Bond car, because unlike all the fancy sports cars no one was worried about wrecking the 2CV so he got to actually drive it for a lot of that scene!
When introduced in late 1940s, the engine was 375cc and made a whopping 8 hp.
They weren't even born so don't speak to them.
@@Robz82001 control yourself.
The whole hockey sequence might be _the_ most Canadian thing LRR has ever done in its 17-year history.
The deep: "How many PIM is this worth?" aside is delightful.
I honestly sat there, both enjoying it and think how much it would perpetuate Canadian Stereotypes! But it was hilarious.
17 years???
@@edoris9021 seriously...isn’t it wild?
and it was epcot
This Hockey Penalty discussion is absolutely amazing
Yeah I think Bond should have gotten a Charging penalty when he threw the Netminder into his own goal
We need a James Bond hockey video game
Genuinely laughing out loud
That hockey discussion was so Canadian I could taste maple syrup and LaBatt's Blue
Obscure card game knowledge for the win: James Bond is actually playing Chemin-de-fer, which is the original game on which Baccarat is based. It’s basically the same, except the dealer changes from round to round.
The fun part is that this movie for me solidified that because when I did my watch through I was like Matt where my research and how the game was played didn't match up and then Cristatos in the dinner scene says something along the line of "I'll go and play some Chemin." and I didn't know what that was looked it up and said "Ohhhhhhhhhh".
Came here to say this. 🍸
Bed time kiddies, now off you go.
You know, two years later the hockey discussion remains one of the most delightful and Canadian things I have ever heard
I was not expecting to learn as much about winter sports as I did this episode, but I feel very edutained.
"edutained" - love it!
Its way passed your bed time.
@@dreyn7780 lmao you good bro? You seem really obsessed with finding children in this comment section. Is there something you wanna tell us about why you wanna be talking to little kids?
A few years ago, during the promotion tour of his memoir, Roger Moore did an interview with the New York Times, and they specifically showed the Lotus break-in scene and 2CV chase during the event. After the scene ended, Moore said that during screenings, the city that they were screening in was having a spree of car robberies. Once the car blew up, the entire audience boisterously cheered.
Also, the "strut" of a helicopter is called a "skid".
Okay, but in James' defence: "I'm not sure I know anything about that, but here's what I know" is probably the most actual spy thing James Bond has ever said or done, because in order to be a good spy you have to be constantly collecting information, but never trusting any of it. You could be wrong, you could be getting fed false information (even from your own people), something could've changed since the last time you checked in with it.
That's just sensible caution, I think, even if from a meta perspective it makes him look like an arrogant little shit (in the good way).
I thought you were talking about LRR's own James Turner at first and that I must have missed a portion of the podcast, ahaha
@@VAB0L0 I would love for James to sit in randomly on one of these just going "I thought it was cool" randomly.
@@VAB0L0 same. Need to just call Bond Bond, insteas
The time limit for discussing the plot has ended back in 1983.
I remember that it's a major part of the books that Bond spends most of his time just reading loads of reports and only gets to go on an assignment once or twice a year.
Walther PPK: that weapon fell out of favor with the Brits when Princess Anne's bodyguard had one jam on him in an armed shootout with a kidnapper back in 1974. Worth looking up; the kidnapper argued with the Princess for a good ten minutes while various rescuers appear out of the woodwork and get promptly shot at by the kidnapper. The Princess' retort to the kidnapper's demand: "Not bloody likely and in any event I haven't got two million pounds." Said kidnapper was eventually arrested when he tried to run away.
The “almost” kidnapper had an ex-boxer punch him from behind who happened to be nearby.
So is the uncomfortably young winter-sports star "coming on" to James Bond in this movie what is being parodied in that one episode of Archer?
100%
Everything in Archer is a parody of James Bond, i.e. they play up Bond's character trait of knowing weird, obscure things as a character trait of Archer.
I am ashamed that it took me this long to think of this: But why is there not a power rankings for the Q branch scenes too? Matt saying "This Q branch scene is not their best one." and now I have to know which one is the best one!
It probably goes to one of the Pierce Brosnan ones, excellent Q scenes in those
I too wish for q-branch rankings!
@@TheMetalupis The Goldeneye scene is hard to beat for pure density of gags. Also Q's sandwich.
@@---we1ok "Now pay attention, Double-Oh Seven."
There wasn't anyone named shDragon1 back in 1981.
You're A liar!
The guy (Smithers) with the cast on his arm in the Q branch scene, is played by Jeremy Bulloch aka Boba Fett.
Wait for real? Talk about Star Wars connections
The body of Boba Fett or the original (non-Jango) voice of Boba Fett?
Boba Fett where?
"Can't you tell your submarines it's time to change your password?" Actually no, that's the whole point of a code computer like ATAC was meant to represent. You could tell them all to make port and then do the physical changing of the keys (though who knows how many operations you're blowing up by doing that) but the problem with that is submarine commanders are in full control of their boats - they have full command authority to decide not to make port and keep operating... and then you've got a real problem.
In short, the handling of the threat of the ATAC is pretty apt in this movie. The plot hole is the fact that it didn't have some kind of automatic failure/self destruct mode when submerged in a hundred feet of seawater, and all of the missed opportunities to just destroy the damned thing instead of recovering it.
Fair!
To be fair, them not having a failsafe destruct from when it's submerged in 100 feet of water feels like something they'd have in real life. For how destructive nuclear weapons are, the governments that posses them are incredibly cavalier about keeping them safe.
I.e. the missing nuclear bombs from Thunderball is a thing that has happened in real life (there are 6 missing nuclear weapons). That Denzel Washington movie Crimson Tide is based on how the commanders of nuclear submarines had the ultimate authority to launch their missiles, though that has fortunately since changed.
That's really interesting, why could a submarine commander choose to disregard an order to make for port?
1969-1981 is only 12 years, not 22
Yeah that drove me a little nutty too. "I know my brain's turning to mush, but I didn't think it was mushifying quite that damn quickly ..."
Yeah WTF, sorry about that
I had a feeling I wasn't the only screaming "12! It's 12 years! Please math better!"
Math is for blockers :P
@@Winterpandacookies So, what, they made a trivia flunge?
Matt G's editing work is on point as ever, I snorted tea at the "More body in the song" bit. Well done!
You're not allowed to introduce yourself.
Unforgiveable that Carole Bouquet was dubbed. She can speak English perfectly well. The saving grace is that she spoke her character's lines for the French version.
Legally distinct Blofeld: "Mr. Bond! We can do a deal! I'll give you a delicatessen in stainless steel!"
Bond: "Alright, keep your hair on" AND THEN HE PATS HIS BALD HEAD so good
Did this part get removed? I was rewatching rewatch, and I didn't see this part
I don't know why but the "try it yourself" like about Return of the Jedi nearly killed me!
I have to stop drinking while watching ANY LRR productions.
Go back to playing with your wiggles dolls.
Tiny thing, and I hate to be that guy, but 1969 and 1981 aren't twenty two years apart, they are twelve years apart.
Thanks for the great work, love this and most other LRR content!
Pretty ridiculous mistake actually. They're mocking that this was done "22" years later (which I might have agreed with), but 12 is actually a good time for adding a nostalgic scene like that IMHO. Glad you pointed it out.
Thank you! I'm not great at math so I thought I was losing my mind
1:18:00 - Not Norway jersey, but Sweden jersey, which seems like a faux pas akin to mistaking Victoria BC for Seattle WA. JS
We get called Vancouver a lot. I understand this pain.
The part where Bond and Melina are keelhauled comes from the novel of Live and Let Die, but not included in that movie.
The brief cut to Borth Sampson (just like Bart!) at 42:08 when discussing the "identigraph" absolutely slayed me.
I'm glad Editor Matt had a shot of the Tofina 10AM mirror bit, because I definitely thought it said Tofina Loam (or Ioam?) in my watch this week, and was very confused.
I always thought the same thing and I could never figure out what it meant lol.
This has become a highlight of my week, thank you guys for the excellent podcast.
I thought Columbo was the one called The Dove, and the whole thing with Locque and his dove pin was a deliberate ploy to mislead Bond into believing that he worked for Columbo?
Also, my family's copy of this movie is on VHS, so that made for an interesting experience. There were definitely a lot of small details that were way harder to see! And also the audio quality wasn't great, for whatever reason.
I also really enjoyed this movie! I'd vaguely remembered liking it a lot previously, and I was happy to find that it lived up to that memory.
You thought correctly--Kristatos says something about how Columbo having the nickname "the Dove" is apropos (apparently expecting the audience to know that Columbidae is the scientific name of doves). This is why the men that come out of the water have doves on their wetsuits--they work for Columbo, and it's his trademark, which Kristatos and Locque were appropriating earlier to frame him.
Incidentally, when Q points out that there are a ton of churches called St. Cyril's but then it cuts to Bond at the correct St. Cyril's, Columbo explains that he and Kristatos used to hang out there as Greek resistance fighters in WWII. I think Matt and Graham missed that as well since they seemed confused about how Bond knew which St. Cyril's to go to.
Ah the hockey content we've all been waiting for. After all these years the Habs finally get mentioned on a LRR Podcast.
I've watched three of these in a row. These are fantastic!
The Compromise Theory of Walther PPK Usage:
The Walther PPK is standard issue for all MI6 agents, but at any one time, James Bond is the only field agent working for MI6 who is not about to die, so everybody knows it must be him.
Was anyone else disappointed when they were talking about Julian Glover, they didn't mention that he also played Walter Donovan in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (with Sean Connery) and Grand Maester Pycelle in Game of Thrones (this one was really weird since they mentioned GoT with Charles Dance's bio)
I honestly forgot he was Pycelle!! Wow!
He is a meme as the "He chose...poorly" guy.
@@loadingreadyrun To be fair, Pycelle and Aristotle are two drastically different characters. I recognized Charles Dance immediately and knew exactly where I had seen him, but I had to google Julian Glover to remember where I had seen him.
Also, I always like to note that there are 5 cast members in the last crusade who appear in 10 bond films collectively, but never in the same ones.
@@darthglacies8534 I'm a little embarrassed that I thought about Sean Connery last when trying to think of the 5
I'd say that For Your Eyes Only is the Roger Moore era's equivalent to From Russia with Love.
I think it's trying to be in that vein, but the feel of the cinematography and such is definitely very interesting to compare to ohmss
Those are my 2 fav Bond movies.
R.I.P. Michael Lonsdale (Hugo Drax)
Damn, that's some timing.
@@---we1ok Wow, that truly is. I had just searched him after last week's episode to see what he had been up to lately,
41:44: "Well, actually..." That thing Bond is holding in the still frame is not a tape. It's a disk pack, which was common among IBM "small" computers and mainframes of the 1960's and 70's. This one looks very much like an IBM 5444. The fact that it's mounted in the drive flat further supports this (nine-track tapes were usually mounted vertically). Basically it's the grandfather of the SyQuest cartridge.
49:10: Guys! You are _totally_ leaving out Julian Glover's role as Scaroth, last of the Jaggeroth (you have to say the whole thing) in the Doctor Who serial _City of Death_ written by the great Douglas Adams (and which also starred Catherine Schell, who _also_ appeared in OHMSS).
2:09:30: There are no shortage of UK natives who would be more than prepared to give you a closely informed earful on this but, at its most basic, Thatcher was the UK counterpart to Ronald Reagan, whose legacy is, among many other things, shredding the social safety nets, busting labor unions, and manufacturing tax breaks for the wealthy. Unlike Reagan, however, Thatcher didn't have Alzheimers as a post-hoc excuse for her perfidy -- she knew exactly what she was doing.
Opinion on her policies notwithstanding, I think it's more interesting and relevant to note that the circa 1981 depiction of Thatcher seen in this movie is very much at odds with the stern, formidable "Iron Lady" persona we are more familiar with today. Prior to the Falklands War and the armed confrontations with the coal miners' unions the prevailing view of Thatcher's premiership was very much coloured by sexist incredulity that a woman was prime minister and she (and her husband) were generally thought of as silly and unimpressive.
As an adult I'm not much of a fan of the Roger Moore era anymore, but this might be my favorite Roger Moore Bond film. The mountain climbing scene has really stayed with me.
Margret thatcher had no scotish MPS during her run as PM. Gives you a idea of what people felt of her up here.
That's not actually true. She certainly was (very!) unpopular in Scotland, but always had Scottish MPs (between 10 and 22). It was only in 1997 (following Tony Blair's victory) that the Tories were wiped out in Scotland
She also, like, was responsible for the aids crisis (read, genocide), so there's plenty of reason for anyone reasonable to hate her
Re: baccarat, the game that's played in the Bond films is chemin-de-fer, which may aid research into the game.
We are slowly creeping towards my favorite Bond movie, just need to get past the rest of the Moore era and also probably never say never again
Mmm would the title have the initials TLD by chance ?lol😁
many thanks for the skiing explanation. Ive seen this movie more times than i can count but as a complete non-skier i never knew about the different types of skis going on.
I have a theory why people can't remember the 80s Bond films as well/think they are bad and are surprised when they enjoy a revisit -- John Glen's Direction. His movies all move at a decent pace (and to be clear I like some of them a lot), but they all suffer from sudden tonal shifts and strange plot structural issues. Big moments are played for laughs, the movies as a whole can't decide what threads are important, and they all have too much pastiche to the point they get confused with other movies. The opening scene of this one sums that up pretty well.
John Glen's Bond films lacked flair. He wasn't a bad director but I think he functioned better as a second unit director and editor. I recall an interview Carey Lowell did when promoting Licence to Kill and she stated that Glen cared more about the action than story or character development.
@@ricardocantoral7672 It really does feel like his movies were plenty of very good scenes without an overarching vision. There are amazing beats, but Bond changes between silly and serious constantly, as do the other characters. It's more of a grab-bag of what they wanted for the moment (which is often just Bond movie callbacks). And the plot/scripts are often very good, which is why I hang it on him, not the rest of the production. Someone needed to put it all together... again, I like For Your Eyes only, and I love The Living Daylights, so it worked somewhat. But I understand people not remembering them well.
@@wendigo2064ify Tonal and character inconsistencies were an issue especially in Licence To Kill. Throughout the film, Bond's characterization fluctuated constantly. He was either a irritable, self centered, reckless, asshole or darkly charismatic. Whatever the scene demanded at the time. Also, the writers just seemed to have no confidence in the darker material so they balanced out the dark stuff with a comical bar room brawl, Wayne Newton as a televangelist, and a totally out of out of character Q appearing in a supporting role.
Max the parrot came back in The Living Daylights.
Real name Chrome and was Diana Rigg's pet for awhile until she gave it to stuntwoman Cyd Child
Well since you've seen Thunderball, you HAVE seen Never Say Never Again.
I'll put in a defense of winter biathlon (cross country skiing and rifle shooting BTW)- it's the only modern sport that harkens back to the military origins of the Olympics. It also nicely breaks up all the figure skating and downhill skiing that make up the rest of the games normally.
And even if the athletes aren't military, one could quite easily imagine a need for both skiing and shooting in the winter.
Modern Pentathlon with the running shooting fencing horse riding and swimming was actually set up by Pierre de Coubertin as what a soldier should be capable of (in 1896)
I'm having a blast with these. Between the insights into the film and Matt G's superb editing, its been fun revisiting the series. Can't wait for next week. ^_^
I already loved this series. Then the hockey skit started.
You guys are geniuses and are invited for dinner.
Melina Havelock... This is totally similar to a Tomb Raider origin story. I'd watch a spin off series of movies with her as the main character...
Children Are to be seen and not heard.
I cannot tell you the joy I felt at having the two of you confirm you like this film! For years I have told people in vain it is a top Bond film only to be given strange looks!! Now I have proof I am not insane!!! Great podcast btw, great series.
Julian Glover isn't just The Empire Strikes back, but also The Last Crusade, and of course Game of Thrones. Same as Charles Dance. Not sure if the two would ever have met on the sets of either, though.
He gets very old, very quickly in The Last Crusade, drinking from the wrong grail.
"For Your Eyes Only" is in my Top 3 Favorite James Bonds thanks to how excellent the character acting is in this movie. Everyone feels like real characters, good personalities, good emoting, good acting. The Action is so so, but its very limited. Multiple great stunts and chase scenes.
Glad this was so well received, this was my favorite for a long time.
Locque was not “The Dove”. Columbo was. He had the dove pin to pretend like he was working for Columbo to frame him
42:08 I snorted out loud at this. Well played, Editor!Matt.
Love these podcasts. It's weird to me how I never thought of myself as a Matt Wiggins superfan, but it seems like I'll watch ANY movie review podcast that has Matt, and absolutely love it. With James, with Graham… the common denominator is Matt and I just can't wait to hear more. Cheers, Matt! You are great at this! :D
Melina is one of my favorite Bond girls, I don't think she misses a single shot with that crossbow
No comment on the “Delicatessen in stainless steel” line? Rife for commentary.
I, too, was surprised by its absence. So, so silly.
rmod42 and yet they spend 5 minutes talking about hockey penalties
@@bradforddillman7671 They're Canadian, give them a break. They have to.
This movie explains that one Episode of Archer where the underage diplomats daughter keeps throwing herself at him at the Ski Resort.
The greatest tragedy of this franchise may be that we didn’t get a title sequence featuring a giant close-up of Blondie wearing the hair from the album cover for The Hunter.
Been waiting all week for this!
Just an odd card question. Might the baccarat variation they use be the so called 'chemin de fer'?
I saw this when it came out and reviewed it positively for my college newspaper at the time. Glad to see you guys recognize and appreciate that it's a solid Bond flick.
Super love the hockey penalties bit.
1:22:22 That squeak from Graham is amazing.
Matt Norway would be blue and red and white. Sweden is yellow and blue
I also wouldn’t be shocked if the “Rangers” jersey is actually that of the U.S. national team.
I honestly consider this to be the best theme song any Bond film has ever had, as well as the best credits scene.
Also, there's a fourth original Ian Fleming Bond story whose name has never been used, but honestly, it's an even worse option. '007 In New York' is the title. In comparison, 'The Hildebrandt Rarity' wouldn't be bad at all....
And as for the candelabra and its spikes, that is in fact what a medieval wrought iron candelabra has. The spikes are there to impale the candles on so they don't inadvertently fall to the ground as they melt away and risk setting things on fire.
Maybe until Chris Cornell did "You Know my Name" for Casino Royale
anyone else that's listening to the podcast version notice that the file you download for this episode has the normal title followed by "THIS ONE MATT"? I got a chuckle out of that
32:20 PPK: The American CIA swears by them.
(And yet, as you say, its _uniqueness_ gives Bond away in YOLT.)
Hey LRR! I’m planning on using From Rewatch with Love in my Pop Culture class that I’m teaching. I figure Bond is big enough to warrant a class on Pop Culture lol.
I love watching these films vicariously via this podcast because, based on the descriptions, I would not remotely enjoy watching an actual Bond film.
This show is great, though! (And the films probably are, too, but not my thing)
Bond is always a little bit campy (Except until Daniel Craig at least.) It's more fun on screen than it sounds dumb on paper.
It definitely is more fun to watch the movies than hear them described. These podcasts are so great for the analysis and interplay and ranking though.
The movies are not high art or anything, but solid action movie blockbuster levels.
@@FFKonoko It's not that they don't sound fun, I'm just not much of an action movie person. Plus, while I love the idea of the whole spies-and-gadgets thing, I find the core character of James Bond to be profoundly grating (just personally).
This podcast is the best way for me to consume these movies.
For Your Eyes Only is my favourite Bond film, and it's incredible in its own right
Thirteen episodes in and I'm just now noticing that the device beneath Matt's elbow changes with every episode.
After my Nth rewatch of this rewatch I've finally realized that all the instances of the the drunk dude double take in the three movies are in Italy: Sardinia in the Spy Who Loved Me, Venice in Moonraker, and Cortina d'Ampezzo in For Your Eyes Only
Norway’s jersey wtf. The blue and yellow jersey is of course Sweden.
I also wouldn’t be shocked if the “Rangers” jersey is actually that of the U.S. national team.
No words on the "Disco" soundtrack by Bill Conti.
I was shocked that they didn't bring it up. I know Conti had his fans, but I find this score to be so distracting. It really impedes my enjoyment of this movie.
There are flashes of brilliance within Conti's score, the music during the battle with the JIM suit and Bond discovering Luigi's body were particularly well done. Unfortunately, most of the music is derivative Rocky/Disco junk.
The Olympic Skiing Crush plot just shows me how much Archer took from Bond.
It is literally a Bond parody. Archer is more accurate to Bond's physical description in the books than any other screen Bond. Also he drinks as much as actual book Bond... just doesn't smoke as much 😆
I ADORE the Frankie Boyle quote in here Graham
You got me sir
I was not expecting that
The 'up yours' pre-credit sequence was allegedly also originally intended to provide continuity while introducing a new actor as Bond when they thought Moore wasn't returning to the role. Ditto the hat throw. It was meant to act as soft reboot to a 'grittier' and more 'grounded' Bond, in the manner of the earliest films.
43:12 honestly i wouldn't put it past them that
1: mi6 hides q branch by not putting many guards around to avoid drawing attention to the heavily guarded facility
or
2: q is doing all this as a hobby. maybe he formally retired sometime ago, but keeps going because he enjoys making handheld death traps.
As for the ice hockey jerseys: the yellow jersey ist from Jamaica - the Kingston Wailers, the red jersey ist from the Peoples Republic Kongo (dissolved in 1991) - the Kinshasa Rumblers, and the blue jersey is from Thailand - the Bangkok (K)Nights.
I've been wondering why sometimes it seems like after someone says something, the other person will just go strong into the next topic immediately as if to say 'we're done with that topic' and then I realized that it's probably just the editing cutting out the dead air.
2:01:19 If you listen very closely you can hear the Ghost of the man who fell is haunting the podcast.
Fun fact that scene of bond getting dragged behind the boat over coral is actually from the books(live and let die) where in the book it is quite tense and how bond escapes is before he was captured managed to place a mine on the underside of the boat unnoticed, the whole time you are wondering whether it’s a dud or whether the fuse will blow up in time and in fact does while bond is over the middle of a coral
Something that bothered me throughout the video: Columbo is the Dove, not Locque. The dove pin Locque left by Luigi was done to aid Kristatos in framing Columbo. That's why when we first see Columbo, he's wearing dove cufflinks and his men are wearing doves on their wetsuits.
Yes exactly. And, as someone else pointed out, Columbo means 'dove'.
I really like when Archer spoofed on this movie with the German skier.
That motorcycle toss was always impressive.
Fun fact... "Columbo" means "dove"
Also, love the hockey commentary.
Here I always thought Columbo means frumpy guy in a grey trench coat.
I think there's a safehouse in SPECTRE called "The Hildebrand".
I always thought of this as probably the best Moore, and definitely the most serious of his, despite some silly moments. Moore was much more visible on pay TV in the 80s, and his lighter style was becoming the new normal. "Never say Never" was a bit of a revelation, reminding us that Connery Bond could quip, but he was tough and confindent, and Moore was smug.
Since by your remarks, you have some Anime knowledge, are you familiar with "Safari (Saphire) Eyes"? The opening song for the Dirty Pair Movie (Project Eden)? Several of the Pair's adventures were or contained Bond Pastiches (and also pastiched "The Terminator", and "The Gauntlet", and several others). For "The Movie" all the stops were pulled, it opens with a classic Bond cold open (with rather more collateral damage than usual). And then the song kicks in and it's amazing (it's also available in HD on RUclips). Considering it came out half a year ahead of Living Daylights, "Eden" is also arguably a better Bond than what we were getting then.
And of course, if you mention Japan and Bond you have to bring up Golgo 13, who was created when the Bond Manga got copyright enforced. This is one series that's never really lost sight of the core audience (low-level overworked and jaded white-collar workers), unlike Bond who in the movies is very much aimed at the mass audience.
I don't care about hockey in the slightest, but the penalty breakdown in the middle of this video was wildly entertaining and made me want to follow hockey more.
The version of Baccarat played in Bond films is called "Chemin de Fer", which differs from the modern style of "Punto Banco". That's why it always seems Bond is playing one-on-one...because that's how Chemin de Fer is played.
This is the best Bond Movie that Moore did and is one of the best Bond Movies ever made.
Can't wait to see what you guys think of the Dalton era Bond movies because I think they're great.
I feel relieved now that I've looked it up and the actress who played Bibi was 23 at the time.
Welcome to “From Skiwatch With Love”
We're reaching levels of 'being glad that you mentioned that' that shouldn't even be possible ;)
As someone who’s relistened to this podcast multiple times now and for whom the opening theme song for _For Eyes Only_ ranks among their top three faves (totally personal preference), I love the fact that in _You Only Twice_ you two call out this theme as your “by far least favorite” and kind of dump on it. And then when you finally get to this movie and actually relisten to it you both agree that while it’s not your faves it’s actually pretty good.
Which to be fair this by far is one of the most iconic of the ballads and most of the rest of the ballads are lackluster and/or forgettable. So by association of this one being the most iconic of the ballads, it’s easy to assume this one is also lackluster as well if it’s been awhile since you listened to it. I just find it amusing that when people actually go listen to it there response is “Actually this isn’t half bad”
1:55:17 Producer Michael G. Wilson as the Priest.
Point of order: 1969 to 1981 is 12 years, not 22.
I know the answer is, "because the movie would be over" but it bends credulity that they would dive to the ATAC machine and not simply destroy it, thus ending the problem immediately.
Also I just realized: hey doesn't this leave a mostly intact nuclear submarine with it's nuclear warheads just sitting in the open for known criminals to peruse? I'll admit I was only half listening to the plot synopsis.
The ship at the start isn't a submarine. It's a disguised military intelligence vessel that has an ATAC. Presumably to relay orders to nearby submarines
Seeing Charles Dance pop up in this film has reminded me of some trivia. Charles Dance played Mr. Tulkinghorn in the 2005 adaptation of Bleak House, a role formerly played by fellow GoT star Peter Vaughan in 1985, alongside Bond/GoT star Diana Rigg. I never expected so many connections between James Bond, Charles Dickens/Bleak House, and Game of Thrones but...neat.
re: Carry On films.... I would be lying if I said I hadn't hoped for a Graham Stark podcast about these highly variable pieces of cinematic fluff.
The last one was Carry On Columbus in 1992. It was not a return to form.
I’ll say this: Carry On Teacher is honestly pretty good! Watched it recently. But WOW they vary wildly.
@@loadingreadyrun hoo boy, do they ever. Carry On Screaming, Carry On Spying and Carry On Up the Khyber are my favourites, but the "this is problematic" discussion on any podcast could consume the entire time.
@@DuncanEllis I've only seen one, and I get the impression that "problematic" was Carry On's entire modus operandi.
@@DuncanEllis After Screaming, Don't Lose Your Head is my top Carry On. "Citizen Camembert, he's the big cheese round here".
@@williamh0809 I forgot about Carry on Cleo as well.
"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!"
Thanks to BeBe, Bond FINALLY learns about consent.
40:44 The Identygraph-Wireframes look like the Douglas Adams BBC-series of "The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy"-images which came out of the "No Panic"-Book (The actual guide).. Since both (For your eyes only AND named TV-series) came out in 1981.. was it the same creating-group ?