Why Play Retro Video Games When New Ones Are Better?! -
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2016
- A Vice article states that video games are better today - so why play retro games?
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Why listen to old music when new music is clearly better?
(ROFL)
Touché.
Same theory applies to music. It's just that old music is junked if it sucks (or was unpopular) so you don't have to wade through the shit and okay stuff like you do in the present. I like new music, but the looking is harder because anything anybody knows about is 95% unremarkable rubbish. And the ideas are different, and I like them. So, a lot of the music I listen to is before I was born, generally starting from 1960. I have to stress this again, I still listen to a lot of new people, but even with iTunes and RUclips, they can be hard to find. Also, I watch TCM and like shows like M*A*S*H and movies like Psycho, but I know for every great horror movie there were many times more low budget craps that nobody saw more than once, for every decent daytime sitcom too stuff equivalent to the opinion of that kardashian show. I mean, I watch it sometimes when my sister puts it on to laugh at how bad it is, but watching anything twice is insanity/ torture.
emurphy66
I agree with your position on this, my point was more to say that "New things are always better than old things" is simply absurd, and that's essentially what this article was saying.
Hell, it went as far as suggesting that old art can only be enjoyed for people who were "there at the time" and feel "nostalgic" about it. Things like museums prove this logic to be retarded beyond any reasoning :p
Or read old books for that matter
Hahaha that truly made my day!!
Yeah, I love that when I want to play a new Xbox One game I have to install it first. At all times I keep a gameboy advance on my desk and a pile of games. When a modern console glitches out or hits a long load screen I just sit back and enjoy some tetris. :P
+DreamcastGuy hell yeah. i have an old crt next to my hdtv to get a couple rounds of castlevania in while my xbone installs updates
+ky squares?
+DreamcastGuy Remember how putting the game in the console made it start up in about a few seconds? That was the advantage it had over PC games back in the day. Now these systems are pretty much mini-PCs you can't modify as easily. Don't get me wrong, I love my PS4 and got a lot of mileage out of it, but I'm not liking the direction where consoles are going in terms of hardware.
+DreamcastGuy Yet another reason why retro gaming>>>modern gaming.
DreamcastGuy I totally subscribe your opinion
Great games will always stand the test of time, my 7 yr old niece played Super Mario Bros 3 on the NES for the first time and she's now obsessed with it like I was when I was a kid.
Booji Boy childhood done right
It's games journalism. It's gonna be stupid about 97% of the time.
Doesn't help that it's Vice.
+MrJobocan 97%? You're being generous.
Why has nostalgia become such a bad word lately? If its nostalgic for me and that increases my enjoyment then who gives a shit?
+societyofsin Because it's become such a dominating and overwhelming part of society recently. So many things are made with that in mind. Even worse, many people seem to think it's sacrilege to criticize anything they liked as a child, an extension of the mistaken thought that something being bad means you are wrong for liking it, conflating taste with quality. I liked all kinds of awful things as a kid, and realizing that they were awful was not an attack on my childhood, as some people I know seem to think.
But there's nothing wrong with enjoying something because of nostalgia.
it is not just about nostalgia, it is about quality, retro games had much more quality, by far
BFisch
Very few of the things I liked as a kid have aged well except video games, somewhat ironically given the subject on hand. A perfect example is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles; like most kids who grew up in the late 80s and early 90s, I loved the hell out of them, but stopped watching as I grew older in favor of other things. I initially rejected the 2003 reboot series because it didn't match up with my nostalgia for the old show... until I actually sat down and watched some of the reboot, rewatched some of the original and realized just how much better the reboot was in comparison. When friends would start trashing the reboot in favor of the original, I'd challenge them to watch a couple episodes of both, back to back, and most of them came around to agree with me. Same thing happened with the rebooted Thundercats show and a bunch of others.
What it really comes down to is, we didn't know better at the time that it was crap because we weren't old, wise or experienced enough to recognize crap and there wasn't anything better to compare it to anyway. That's part of the reason new projects that rely too much on nostalgia and not enough on quality tend to fail; we, as a consumer base, now know what was crap, why it was crap and not only can recognize new crap, but we also now have a plethora of quality alternatives to choose from.
"video games are better than ever, so why are we trying to revisit the past?"
you mean revisit the past I wasn't even born yet to see? and all the thousands of games I missed while I was alive?
Retro games will always rock.
At least retro games were 100% complete when released.
+ravager48 Well... Not action 52 LOL
Atari Game Lord Yeah, but all the games were there and there was no DLC.
@@retrogamelord3763 word.
Why play new games when retro games are better?
exactly
Yup GG
+Turd Fergusson because you can't play a game like Fallout 3 or New Vegas on a NES... just as they don't make games like streets of rage 2 much today...
+StaySkeptic I prefer playing the DKC 1 - DK64 era than the Returns series.
I went to a arcade and had more fun playing real pinball over what ever comes out
Better than ever? That's purely subjective. I'll take retro games over modern games any day.
+RyuHayabusa06 but the *graphics* are nicer to look at!
And that's all the really matters, right?
RyuHayabusa06 well, of course! what, you think that people that like to play games only care about the gameplay?
Yeah. I love me my new games, probably more than retro over all, but that statement is literally like saying the 3D Castlevania games on the N64 are just naturally superior to Castlevania 4 because time passed.
No one should feel guilty because they have nostalgia for their joyful childhood experiences.
I don't revisit old games, I have never left. What a bogus article.
I was born in 1996. My parents had a Sega Genesis, which I saw them play a few times (never actually played it at the time, since I was still a baby, but my brother and I did dig it out of our basement when we were in high school, and that's what got us into retro gaming), and the first console I ever played was the original Playstation. I can't be nostalgic for NES or Genesis, since they weren't a huge part of my childhood. I still really like them. Games like Sonic the Hedgehog, Darius Twin, Super Mario Bros, and Street Fighter II are excellent games, even though it's been 25+ years since they came out.
Besides just being great games, there's also a ton of other reasons why it's fun to play older games. It's really amazing to see how the technology has advanced over the years. You go from "I think that's supposed to be a man" to "holy shit, I can make out the smallest of details on his face!". At one point, there were four directions you could move and four other buttons on a controller, and now you have a full 360 degrees of movement, camera movement, and way more than four buttons, in addition to possible touch screens or motion controls. The NES could only use 48 possible colors, and now you can have any color you want. I could go on.
It's also great to see the sort of games developers were coming up with in the early days of the industry. No one knew what was going to work, and what wasn't. Developers took more risks with ideas. Paperboy is one of my favorites, and it is such a strange idea for a game. Today, developers know what will work, and that's why there's a million fucking games where you just shoot things. I guarantee, the only people today willing to risk making something as strange as a game about delivering newspapers are indie developers, and far too often indie games are just RUclips Let's Play or hipster type shit.
I was born in '95 and I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I think people complain about newer games because a lot of modern AAA are really homogenized and borrow a ton of mechanic from one another and that a lot of indies aren't as imaginative or interesting as most people think they are, so if I want to find something actually unique (but not necessarily good) I have to go play weird older games or dig really really deep into the internet for weird new shit with no budget behind it. It feels like the PS2/GCN/OGXBox was the last gen where you saw games that were really bizarre but still had a budget, like Pikmin, Katamari Damacy, Shadow of the Colossus, and Robot Alchemic Drive even though most people wouldn't call that era retro. That era's my jam.
That guy is completely wrong. Thinking it's all nostalgia. Garbage was garbage back then just like it is now.
I largely can't stand modern console games anymore. Older games didn't require you to wait for updates to download before you could play them. Older games didn't barrage you with reminders of extra content that isn't in the game that you paid for. Older games didn't require $50-$60 annually for online play, and local multiplayer was the rule-- not the exception.
Modern games look better and bring more complexity (for those who prefer it). For me, though, the positives of modern consoles and video games don't come anywhere close to balancing the litany of negatives.
I'll stick with what's the most convenient and comfortable for me, regardless of what some blowhard writing an incendiary "gaming article" thinks.
+Peter Skerritt It says something pretty damning when it was often quicker to load a game from a magnetic tape back in the day (And then, incidentally, no loading screens within the game itself), than it often is to start up a game today - particularly if it's a new title you haven't played before (And then get loading screens interrupting the game play)...
+Gizensha Fox
Heheh.
The moment modern games take longer to load and run than "Space Taxi" off the old 1541 on a C64, I might have to call it quits.
It's not fair to say that modern games are better because the technology is more advanced. Good design is good forever.
+Zachary Harden Yep is why a game like Super Mario Bros, Tetris, and even combat on Atari 2600 are still playable all these years later.
My 1980's monocle almost fell out when he said shrimp cocktail for dinner. It is always a starter ..tut tut
it's great to have you back, sir!
The real question is why does age even matter? A true gamer plays any game that they find fun, be it an SNES or a PS2.
Ian, thank you for mentioning time. I like that most retro games don't take forever, because I don't have forever to play. I can get through the NES Zelda in a weekend afternoon or play a fun game of Dr Mario while listening to the new LP that came in the mail.
Saddest thing I ever heard was a female Hollywood Video employee back in the 90's casually mentioning she would not watch a movie if it was black and white.
+Hoosier High Way Nothing wrong with B/W films heck ~ Nosferatu (1922) is a fav. of mine. Least with older flicks they aint ALL CG
So many of the retro games I collect and play I did not grow up with or ever have a chance to play. I am not blinded by nostalgia, I just appreciate all video games, no matter their age.
New games suffer from the same thing new music suffers from: There is now a very clear formula to making a game or music and those that publish it follow it with only the money in mind. In earlier times of both before these formulas there were lots of experimenting to see what worked best and you got some interesting and unique results. Developers don't do that anymore.
I had the same thoughts as the one you point out about old movies - that you could say the same about movies; "why are you watching those classics?, when new movies are coming out?".
There are such things as Timeless classics even among games.
Your movie analogy is perfect Pat. :)
Also taste comes into play, now, just like it did back then. There are games i loved then and still do now, that others don't like; or games people loved, that i just couldn't get into. But at the same time i have rediscovered games i didn't get as a child, that i now love, and like you said, games i don't enjoy as much now.
Maybe the guy tried to play one game he loved as a child but could get into it and then takes out his big brush to paint a picture in broad strokes, with huge generalizations and the assumption that his experience somehow HAS to be the experience of everyone else?
I'll speak for myself, but I'm 40 years old and have been playing video games since 1983, and IMHO I think video games have reached heights I never even dreamed of. The past 10 years have been quite impressive and I hope people can appreciate where we're at when it comes to video games.
Just had my brother and his son with his friend in their early 20's come over. We played everything from Atari warlords up to sega Saturn and dreamcast. These very young adults had never played any of these early game systems. But we had a blast and they loved them, especially when we played 4 player warlords on the atari.
Alright, let's get one fucking thing straight.
I haven't read the article alone, but the title makes me mad.
I will play Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, Kotor 1, Kotor 2, Dark Forces 2 and Battlefront 2 any day, over the garbage that is The Force Unleashed, TFU2 and 'Battlefront'. I'm glad I have bad taste so I can ignore today's clearly superior videogames.
weeb
Stfu
+Flokker aww come on, force unleashed was okay
+Flokker Just a heads up, the article is talking about games that are a bit more retro then what you listed. Like, 16 bit era and before, or anything made before 1996.
+Flokker No way, you are so edgy.
No you were right the first time. Click-bakey, as in the writer was probably high when he wrote it.
I remember friends going on holiday and bringing back those knock off 101 game carts for the gba when I was a kid. How I discovered contra and lode runner amongst others. Gr8 times
Video games are better than ever?
If thats the case, how come this is the first gen I've not even bothered to own.
+TheLonelyGoomba and also why do some of the characters from the past get dumped on by focus groups?
Not even Wii U? You're missing out on Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon! I love you and I want the best for you so I really recommend that you get a Wii U :3
+Andrew Sureheart (ACT8113) Focus groups are small reference pools that are catered toward what certain investors and businessmen want instead of actual results. They never worked then and they don't work now.
+TheLonelyGoomba Gotta love all those day 1 patches and updates every other week.
Cntrol100 $500? LOL
Only Pat video I actually hit like on. You guys got it spot on.
My daddy asks me why I would want to play old games like they expire or something but he loves old cars.
Heldagrif Me?
Heldagrif Why?
Heldagrif I don't have a boyfriend. I was talking about my dad. He's an old man who loves old cars.
I have friends who say the same thing: "Why play retro games? The newer ones are better?" Bullshit. First off, "better" is always going to be subjective. Plus, there's always going to be people who like something you don't...but to blast an entire scene just because it's old is crazy ignorant.
i think the reason why i personally love retro games is the simple fact games are far too big and vast nowadays, and simply don't have the pick up and play for 30 minutes that they used to, not better or worst just simpler and for me that suits my life.
I can appreciate a good retro game, but if I don't have any personal nostalgic sentiments about the game, then I usually just end up reselling it to a local store or on eBay. The only retro games I ever kept that I didn't play back in the day were those two 'Rocket Knight' games on the Sega Genesis.
"You only remember the good ones" is a weak argument in my mind. The approach to developing films and games is different today compared to the distant past. Film attempted to forge its quality through storytelling - now it's strictly marketing and the story goes on the back burner. Gaming was an experimental and exploratory medium - now it's settled into comfortable genres and formulas and money grabbing gimmicks. Industries do change as the pressure increases on them to return good results to their shareholders.
"Newer art is better than older art."
Gamers like to go back to retro games because it reminds them of a time where they didn't have to deal with bullshit like day one patches, day one DLC, on-disc DLC, microtransactions, always online, pre-order garbage, etc. Yes there were shitty games back then too, but most of them were either very obscure games or licensed cash-ins that nobody cared about. Outside of that, we were getting one classic after another.
+Allie-RX so if you only count the good games all we had were good games?
bigevilworldwide1 Games are *supposed* to work out of the box. That was the hard lesson developers learned back in the day.
Nowadays, releasing a $60 AAA game that's broken or incomplete at launch only to patch it or release DLC later is a common business practice that's hurting the industry.
Allie-RX at least now they can eventually be fixed, back in the day if a game was made poorly it stayed that way
Chosen One 41 Which is why I stand by my statement:
*Games are **_supposed_** to work **_out of the box._*
It is *NOT* ok to release a broken or incomplete game at launch, even with the technology that we have right now. There's no excuse. Patch or no patch, developers and publishers should be held accountable for that.
Watch_Dogs, Assassin's Creed: Unity, and the PC port of Batman: Arkham Knight still have the stigma of being bullshit games.
Games are expensive. A game a $60 should have value.
I'd rather have a game get delayed.
Allie-RX Your original statement is that retro games were never released broken which is false, your new statement is fine though
In this instance you are reviewing the article not just reading it, which is great for the podcast because we get your perspective and good content.
There are tons of old games that I played first as an adult, and fell in love with all without nostalgia.
Are the youtube videos from the podcast from the same podcast or do they only own 1 t-shirt each?
Love this!
I'm 18. I wasn't born when the NES and SNES came out, or even the N64, but I love games from those consoles, because they're just really well made.
I generally stick to newer games, but that said, I still love playing some of my favorite retro games, and a few of them still easily take several spots on my top 10 favorite games of all time. Games like SMB3, Zelda - A Link to the Past and Shadowrun (SNES-version).
I can nothing but agree with both Pat and Ian on this one. It was great hearing you guys discuss this topic!
C'mon guys, it's an edgy opinion piece. Leave them be about it, it's not a big dea-
(the author calls NeoGeo games unfun, particularly shit-talking Fatal Fury)
Welp. Don't be surprised if a motherfucker's house magically turns into flames this weekend.
UltimaKeyMaster Or Samurai Shodown. Or King of Fighters. Or Last Resort. Or Last Blade. Or Windjammers.
I bought a multi cart in Spain once, living the playboy life style in Tenerife!!! Pat lives in California......
I've only been playing video games for around 3 years and haven't played too many games yet but still find some retro games to be great. You can't really say it's nostalgia when people who have never played the games still find them fun.
Great video guys! Oh and Ian, the Neo-Geo had alot of incredible games! You just had to sell your house etc to affored an AES and the cartridges lol... but the games were sick! :)
Turrican4D 2D = the best D!
Angry pats book plug hahaha
The thing that makes many retro games continue to be appealing is the graphic restrictions. Sprite artwork holds up 1000x better than dated 3d graphics, and if the game design itself is solid, then there's no reason to consider it worse than a modern game. I would play Yoshi's Island any day.
+Garrette Yoshi Island is so addictive !^^
inb4 companies start complaining about their games selling bad because of retro games
Pat the NES Punk - will we be able to buy the book after the first print run if we don't have the cash to preorder now?
A well-designed game is a well-designed game, regardless of the time it came out, and that sense of design -- the design we see in games like Mario, Sonic 2, Gradius, and other classics -- is what drives the retro market, far more than nostalgia. Games like Yar's Revenge on Atari still hold up because of that design, and even a game like E.T., long lauded as one of the worst games ever, has a rising community of defenders as people delve deeper and recognize the finer elements of the game's design.
The person who wrote this article... What bra, you even gaem?
I can't believe I used to do away with old consoles when new ones came in! When we got the Saturn, I decided I was done with the Mega Drive. When the Saturn crashed and burned in the marketplace, we got a PlayStation and I decided "no more Saturn". In April 1999, I rented Asteroids for the PlayStation and because I found myself back on level 1 despite having saved at the end of my first play session, I decided I was done with PlayStation and wanted to go back to Mega Drive, so I got my old Mega Drive back from the person I gave it to. I still have that Mega Drive and PlayStation to this day and it was that game rental experience which made me the primarily-retro gamer I am today.
My friends routinely get together with me for Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Tetris Attack, Goldeneye 007, Secret of Mana, and so much more (even NES games). Of course we backed Super Russian Roulette. ;)
Amen, Ian!
Personally I think in terms of innovation the console industry peaked with the PS2, XBox and GC generation. Since then gaming has really only been about graphics. Which is fine, but it doesn't draw me in like it used to. I would much rather spend 30 mins trying to beat a retro game than 40 hrs for a modern game. Virtually all disc based games sit on the shelf because it just takes too much time to replay them.
+NostalgicRoe
HEY!
You forgot the Dreamcast.
James Bond I always forget that one because I never played it. I grew up in a small area so Dreamcast was never an option!
soylentgreenb But the PS1 N64 was the first home console to do 3d gaming successfully. Really every console generation is about new and better graphics, but they were still bringing new gameplay experiences to the table at that time. I just don't see such a difference in today's games.
NostalgicRoe
Damn that sucks but that's no excuse. Seeing how I called you out on it, I only see it fitting that I deal your punishment to you as well. You need to get yourself a Dreamcast and get Shenmue and beat it. I hope you enjoy this horrible and death-defying punishment.
James Bond
Ha! I actually do own a Dreamcast now...just not Shenmue. Admittedly, it hasn't gotten a ton of love yet, but I hope to change that soon.
My friends and I had a 3 hour run on General Chaos just last week.
The article made me laugh too hard!!
even if i don't play Retro games that often i still very much enjoy them with friends is always fun going back to super mario kart or start fox or so many other games.
Ian! I love crazy castles as well.
Me and my friends drink beer and play my old games all the time it's fun as hell.Beat Streets Of Rage 2 last weekend with buddies good times were had by all.
If retro gaming is purely a nostalgia thing why are there people out there playing games that came out before they were even born? Heck, my two favorite games, Final Fantasy VI and Earthbound, are older than I am.
Personally, I'm not a nostalgic person at all and I mostly play modern games. On top of this, I didn't grow up with an NES and despite that, I play NES games today and enjoy the crap out of them. The thing about Retro games is that they ARE games and are therefore nothing like the hand-holding movie-games of today. Retro games know that a game is supposed to be a challenge, and in order to make the most of their mechanics, retro games know that they need a decent level of challenge in order to push those mechanics to the limit and to make the gameplay exciting and rewarding.
So from a totally non-nostalgic person, I think the majority of modern games could learn a lot from retro games. So no, many modern games are not objectively better. Especially if you like a challenge and don't care about cinematics and narrative... You know, things that movies will always do better.
StarTropics is my favourite NES game. I'm curious why Ian has such trouble going back to it? Is it a difficulty thing? The movement pattern? I'm really curious.
I completely agree with Pat and Ian on this!
Here's the thing that's nice about old games: you power on your console and you're playing. Newer games you first have to boot up the system and wait for it to load its OS (unless you're on PC, it's probably already on), and then load the game and then sit through a bunch of copyright, logo and loading screens.
"i challenge you to play retro games with your friends for a night and have fun".
In the past month or so me and my mates have played: ninja gaiden (NES), Batman (NES), Megaman (NES), Zelda (NES and SNES games), Mario Party 4 and 5 (GC), Castlevania Aria of sorrow (gameboy advance), kid icarus (NES), Mario Kart 64 (N64)
just to name a few of the classics we have played and we had a rocking good time. Dunno what this fella who wrote the article is talking about.
Jeez, even a johnny-no-mates like myself has had people come over and play retro games, and it was fucking awesome. We did Super Smash TV, Turtles in Time, some Smash Bros Brawl and Bomber Man. How the heck would we have had a better time than that with modern "better than ever" games?
Haha... I remember getting those dodgy 100 cartridges on holidays in Spain when I was a kid...
I could not possibly agree more with this guys keep up the good work.
Actually very competent, property defense of the whole NeoGeoX situation + SNK, and the whole topic all around. Spot on. thanx guys.
I loved Ghostbusters on nes. I still play through it once or twice a year.
How about getting the full game for one price.
I was nodding off and I heard Hydlide and I jolted up in fear
All people named Ian are hipsters.
it's ridiculous how true that is.
***** Well now that most people love retro games (or at least appreciate them) it's now too mainstream to like them.
All people named drz2014 are Klingons.
Ian Beale.
I can only speak for myself. I love games. I don't care how new or how old. I grew up in the 90s, so obviously the older game have a special place in my heart. However, there are new games that I do enjoy. What keeps me attracted to older games is the ease and simplicity of pick it up and playing. While new games are more immersive and engaging (Which I like), at times it can be a tad tiring. So I'll hook up an old console, crack open a beer and play old Sonic or Mario, or whatever.
The only thing that gripes me about new games is majority of them seems to be heavily story driven, It's usually no big deal, but if the game play is lacking in favor of a detailed yet convoluted story , that's when I don't enjoy it. There are bad games old and new. However, if a game in good, I'll give credit where credit is due. No matter what era they came out.
I read the article and just shook my head and laughed at it. The main problem I see with the article is the writer doesn't once explain what makes new games better than retro ones. Instead, it's just him bashing retro games and the people who buy them.
when a friend brought a wii u over, we ended up playing double dash on the gamecube the biggest part of the night
Why should I watch Citizen Kane and other classics when all those new ones coming out in theaters are so much "better?" Why should I read and study Romeo and Juliet when Stephanie Meier's vampire shenanigans is the hot shit? Why should I listen to Pink Floyd, Mozart and other classics when Bieb- NO, I am not even finishing that sentence! This argument makes no sense, especially with lots of new indie titles coming out trying to mimic those exact old (and good) games - what are they falling under?
The appeal of retro games for me - and something you both brought up - is that it requires a lot less time commitment. I'm sure a lot of the new games are quite fun (and I've even dabbled in many of them.) But when many of them want to be like movies with a half-hour of set-up (be it narrative, tutorials, etc.), it's hard to set aside that time.
Ian is absolutely spot on and makes great points. The neo geo x was bad mainly because it was forcing a 480p signal to HD TVs producing atrocious screen tearing on top of a poorly, tacky made system and once it became clear it was nothing more than an emulator in a box, any semblance of console magic died a death. Coupled with that, it felt to me like a product that SNK never would have passed through quality control. The issue of retro vs modern games for me is simple. They are a completely different experience and I agree that investment in time and complexity is hard for us older gamers who have a lot of other responsibilities.
BTW its Zed Ex Spectrum (not zee..!!! lol)
What we have today in video games is NOT better. Graphically, YES, gaming wise, NO!!!!!
i would like to thank pat for telling me how few old movies hes watched
I went a long time without playing the original Super Mario Bros.
I went back to it after a game design video that was talking about it, and I'd forgotten how good that game is. Even to just control the game feels great.
Something great about older games is very much absent from newer games.
Game Design video? From Extra Credits perhaps? :3
It was PBS Game/Show's How Mario Makes You a Better Player. Being the person who for some reason knows the ins and outs of 2D Mario game mechanics so well (wow, I definitely didn't sound full of myself there), I went to fact-check something he said in the video. (Something about needing the extra height gained from a running jump in order to get over a wall that's 4 blocks high.)
I definately take offense to this article, just like how you can enjoy classic movies, books and classical music without needing nostalgia you can love a classic game in much the same way. My first game system was an n64 and did not get the chance to play many classic games like super metroid and chrono trigger until just a few years ago but they are both easily some of my favorate games of all time. There have been tons of old games that where well before my time that I have fallen in love with.
Because retro games ARE BETTER, everybody knows that, it´s common sense.
people love playing old mario kart games together to this day
pat's skin colour nearly matches his shirt
This writer is more a retro shamer than retro gamer, hell, I'd be surprised if they actually knew what they were talking about at all. That's the great thing about the hobby, it takes a such a genuine amount of knowledge to hold a conversation, that these overnight authoritarians are so very easy to debunk.
Why play new games when the classics are so much better?
I still not seen a game that is my Donkey Kong Country 2. I have enjoyed the whole series but nothing has topped that one for me.
And I have plenty of other examples and games just have to be worth going back to but for me some are even the best to me from a long long time ago.
video games are getting WAY BETTER. there's no denying that. but the classics never lose their charm and nostalgia
+Munchies romero Really? AAA release games seem to be in the same rut since 2006. Consistently releasing the same gameplay with a fresh coat of paint and wayyy too many side quests. Non-FPS Indie developers have some interesting things coming out for PC, but that's about it.
I'm from the UK and a holiday to Spain is definitely not a rich paradise vacation, especially when the 'Oi Oi Saveloy' brigade are around. The Maldives maybe... I'd prefer San Diego for a holiday 'cos I've never been. Pat / Ian, would you recommend San Diego as a holiday destination?
Good question!
Well Said Ian!!!
"Why Play Retro Video Games When New Ones Are Better?"
Well, the simple answer (for me) is disappointment with those new games. Ever since the induction of micro transactions, online-only, a premium price of $60 per game, and DLC has really made getting new games not very exciting. In that regard, one could argue that new games are worse than the older ones. Let's put it this way; if we were to live in a world where all our old games did not exist, I'd probably kill myself. I would not want to live without my Neo-Geo games, or my pre-SOTN CastleVania's, or even my Contra.
+Pepsi Man don't forget that most games release broken or half ass
Retro games typically are more challenging, punish you more for screwing up and don't cover up massive flaws with eye candy.
My kids (16 and 17) love retro gaming just as much as they love modern games.
I still fire up Dungeons of Daggorath from time to time.
For the retro games challenge, I just went to Galloping Ghost Arcade for my birthday. Me and my friends are planning on going again! This dude has no clue...
coded on NES? I cant find anything on it :(
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