Nightmare Neighbours: The Battle for Countryside | At War With Next Door | FULL episode | S1E2
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2023
- Dermot O'Leary presents this documentary that tries to bring peace between two waring neighbours.
In this episode The Legend of Vixen Tor in Dartmoor, Derby is causing more arguments than you will ever imagine. For 3 years an ongoing dispute about the public trail is now ready to be resolved. Farmer and landowner Mary Alford who holds Dartmoor special to her heart is protective about trespassers and vandalism in the area...but how far will she take it?
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I love how he genuinely thinks he's helped and solved an issue 😅 literally nothing has changed 😂
Lol :p
Let's be honest, his primary role was to create the perception that he is a excellent negotiator. He didn't convince me. 😂
@@helenaville5939 Dad's army was a comedy TV show all through the 70's and getting pretty tired and worn out by the end. Here is a guy who could only have been in his early 20's when it was airing. but that is trying to carry through it's comedy right into the 21st century ! He finally got his 15 minutes of fame after all these years 🙂 And all about a rock. LOL.
Good show, good result, RIDICULOUS beret on the old soldier 😂😂😂😂
Something similar happened here in Mexico in the 90’s. We where backpackers and we discovered a little town in which we rented a room to spend the night and ultimately making friends with the family, they showed us a little secret of their own, a beautiful, almost like paradise natural water fountain, clean, full of little colorful fishes, so peaceful. We went back a couple of times more until one day the family told us that a politician had “bought” the place and fence it all around, he started charging a ridiculous expensive fee just to keep the town out and build a luxury resort. People were furious and tried to enter illegally, police had been called and used force to keep out the people. The town was very sad, kids, grandparents, there was no way to cheer them up, memories past and future were gone. The place is called “Las estacas” and is in cuautla Morelos.
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So horrible. This still upsets me.
My stance is I own the land, its my right to not want people thinking they have the right to it. She's right and for insurance purposes she has the right to protect herself against any law suits !!!
It's not just injury an lawsuit for it, it's also the trash, and fires, and scaring/hurting/stealing livestock. Everyone is playing pretend as if public parks maintained daily/weekly aren't disgusting because of "visitors respecting". FFS you can't leave your dog in front of a convenience store for litteral 2min before some AH drags their child "pet the dog!"
They bought it for livestock, not charity so AH have somewhere to throw beer cans.
Visiting 30 years you should have bought it
He’s an NHS, he couldn’t afford to.
Jim is a pain and very self righteous.
You can live with the land but you cannot truly "own" it.
Well that's just a moral statement. In a legal context, the law in some countries says otherwise, and England is one of those countries.
Oh my gosh! Do you think that is your attitude if someone crosses your fence to use something they want, but you paid for?
How does that?
Work?
Why not get all visitors to sign a legal notice that they enter this area of land at their own risk? And the owner accepts no responsibility for any accidents while on the land!
The negotiator (who keeps praising his own skills) never even thought of putting that very obvious point to her. Privately she told him that was her main reason for banning the visitors to the site. Privately the tour leader said they understood that they walk/visit at their own risk. And yet the brilliant negotiator never thought to get this in writing between the two parties. He's pretty useless if you ask me.
Another good idea,👍
She is a private property owner and not a business!!!
The family should charge a fee per person group per visit. And make each one sign a comprehensive waiver. They are the legal owners and deserve the right to peaceful enjoyment. No one should be allowed to go to someone's property, backyard amd do what they want
Where do the visitors go to the toilet etc!? If they wanted to enjoy the view they shouldve bought the property as a group themselves. Its wasn't that expensive.
They are to take away from all their chores on the working farm and hire someone to run a climbers attraction? I agree, what are they doing with their bodily waste?
How the hell is land like this allowed to be sold privately absolutely mental it should obviously be public access, it’s our country social and historical landmarks shouldn’t be for sale.
Agreed there really should had been a clause in the sale of the house for public access to the site!
Pretty sure they just lost the Dartmoor court case she was relying on to be able to stop public access. I don't know why anyone supports these land hoggers anyway. It should be like Scotland, right to roam and wild camp. Now we've got American and Chinese billionaires buying up massive areas of our land, including the local post office and shops like just happened near me, and closing them down. Banning locals from the water and lamd we've always used and only allowing their elites
I love going on hikes to nowhere. The natural beauty has remained mostly open for everyone to enjoy the pastures.
It was probably sold because the tor would cost them money to maintain and they didn't want the headache of being sued by people falling off it or being hurt. It costs money to keep historical landmarks in good order and it just isn't in the public coffers. They pass it on for other people to deal with and this is the result.
It's possible that the land had always been owned but previous owners didn't mind.
Insurance I can totally understand but simple appropriate signs can help, enter at own risk, climb at own risk ... We hold no liability etc
One day a year? Wow! Jim’s being very good indeed! 🌷🌱
What!!?? It’s a One Off!!!??? Gee, thanks a lot, Mary. you’re so generous to give up one lousy day to the very old English right of free access.
Did you not hear in the video that there was no right of free access on that land. Be mad at those who run your National Park service!
@@debbiew.7716 Have you never heard of being a decent person ? That woman isn't.
Here in Perth, We have a big 4000 acre park next to the city which has botanical gardens, water fall, a big tower which overlooks the park & city. Rock formations, play areas & barbicues ponds with big statues & war veterans plaques under every tree. When I was little it was one of my favourite places. I can't get imagine if the government privatised it!!
Lolololol the fool what it means to the community???? It’s hers And yes maybe she should charge a fee
national parks should NEVER be sold to private companies or individuals unless they continue to give it public access. She paid 30k for it and thinks it's worth 150k plus 400k every 10 years for access. She is playing a con game at the publics expense
How is that a con game? She bought land for sale. There were no restrictions on it. How could she have know the value of ALL UK property would rise like it did? People want everything for free. They took it up with the legal system and lost. The park service is the problem not her.
@@debbiew.7716 Ahem; IF that woman weren't such a pain in the B she would leave access to it for free.
She is enforcing something which has been free for decades.
YES, she owns the land, but they edited OUT the bit where she explains how much money she wants to re-open it.
I bet the townspeople wouldn't share their private property with the public though!
Good work! Nice to see btidges being built! ❤
Don't need to any further than the first three minutes. She bought and owns the land, Insurance won't cover injuries to the public on the land. Any uncorrupt judge anywhere in the world will side with her. It's her land to do with as she please, within the law of course.
Not so fast. Public land should never have been sold privately. If she had not bought the land, she would never have been liable. She is the one being unreasonable. There is a great difference between the letter and the spirit of the law.
@@klnkat6600 Spirit of the law, hehehe, no such thing. If there were then that would mean you don't own anything you bought, and anybody could go on your property and in your house as they please. Any land is for sale be it private ownership, commercial, religious or government. The land in this post was for sale, any of these people wanting access to it could have bought it, but they didn't. It was not a secret sale, she bough it fair and square. If people wanted access to it they should have done their research, come up with a reasonable plan according to by-laws, set up insurance and whatever else it needed, then approached the owner. First time someone came on my property claiming right to access, i would go in their backyard with some friends and have a BBQ when they were not home. Free access to land is free access to land. But alas, things are different when the shoe is on the other foot.
Maz you is very funny and rather impacted in the upper bowel of your thought process, Senokot max strength will help you to losen up alittle.
There is always a compromise to be had in relation to land, landmarks and public access wether freely or by appointment only.👍
As a dweller across the pond, I have heard a lot about the rights of the public to cross over and use certain land. These lands have had public access rights since at least the late nineteenth century. It’s an English right passed down generation after generation. It seems always to be the rich land “owners” who want to end those rights! I think that’s totally wrong. It’s like the peasants not being allowed to hunt and feed their families from the king’s, lord’s, or rich guy’s forest. Not that bad, of course, but the same principle. There definitely needs to be some give and take here - including from the protestor (who doth protest too much).
@@feralbluee Nothing to do with what you, I or anyone thinks. All that matters is what the law says.
It is funny that those who complain don't own anything for others to infringe on. It's a different story when someone comes on their property.
Of course..she is within all her rights..but..
What could at least,. One day a year access do but, raise money for 2 very good causes and give a excellent example to her grandchildren that alittle humanity can go so very far....for both sides...
She's a farmer. Not human.
Iv seen signs on my travels stating “we will not be held liable to any injuries loss or damage’s whilst visiting this land” but I don’t know if the insurance company has that type of policy
Insurance companies are cowboys. If they can GET money they are present, if they can't they will leave you high and dry.
Once again look they don’t like him I don’t either stay off her land go find someplace else to not go to work
He does work, for the NHS
@@johnlennox-pe2nqthat speaks volumes.
Another white settler with no ties to the land.
Access for one day , then keep off the land for ever . Sounds like a great outcome (for Mary)
Agreed. Very sad outcome.
AND she's got him to do everything he can to keep others off her land also !!!
Now pronounce the following with a stiff upper lip and eating a toffee : Such a great outcome; I'm glad I've SOLVED everything here.
Worst piece of negotiating I've seen of heard in years.
This guy is so entitled.
There is a large land area that was donated to the county by the late family. There are private areas that are shown on their website, and maps. In bold, landowners have the right to press chargers for trespassing. The county could not afford the land that is privately own, and sometimes land is up for sale. It is a nice place to fish, hike, visit the house (not a museum, but is open rentals). It is easy to see where the private lands are, as there are signs warning that you are entering private land. Not sure if there was a problem awhile ago.
Can't get past the first 20seconds, why didn't they tell the old bugger his fly is down and his todger may show his head.
LOL
Yep not cool especially as Col Bob had remembered to put his battle beret on 😂😂😂😂😂
Money money greed mine mine let's wave shooters about somebody will die again sad
Now if someone wants to make it a park they should buy it and she still has the right to not sell this such stupidity it’s her land not yours
Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place. Liability for personal injury on private property. The Park authorities should have purchased the Vixen Tor parcel of land and administered its access. I wonder who received payment for this land?
Jim still remained very immature with his statements, "I haven't been trespassing, there's been no need at the present time" and "this is not going to stop me trespassing, is it?"
Any updates since 2006?
Jim is a pain in the tonsils!
like a fleas arguing about who owns the dog. There should be a compulsory purchase order for just enough land to allow the public to enjoy the Tor, probably about £50k would be very generous and then it can be handed over to the National Trust.
it's her property and she's paying the mortgage. People shouldn't be there.
When was this filmed?
Between 2014 - 21
Permissive access with a clearly displayed disclaimer informing visitors that they do so at their own risk would sort the landowners liability i think!. It is a local landmark so in an ideal world the public should have access to the tor during daylight hours.
I agree with the landowners principle's as there is no public right of way and it would be unwise for any landowner to allow a president to be set ,that devalues the land.
with public access come usage limitations like not putting a big vicious bull out there. I would build a fence around the tor and a fenced in footpath to it. It would cost a few grand and the problem would be solved.
No it isn’t show. I need to see on some ledger where it has been declared any kind of land mark by any agency
Looks like a place where kids go to drink and party at night
You heard her, "this was a one off". She has no intention of doing anything further.
Nope. It's a win - lose negotiation that our "celeb" of the day Bob has got for the TV there.
It's all he's done all his life apparently. Ponce about and ask people to be nice while he's in town only for them to ignore him as soon as he has his back turned; but that's alright: He was seen on TV getting both parties to sign an agreement.
WOT a man. Seems to rather like his yank tank too....
Did his jacket ever fit or am I just seeing things - it was 3 sizes too small to cover his gut.
Hope this doesn't spill over into my fiefdom.
Law is the law, she bought the land and owns it. What the protest should be about is why be able to sell public land in the first place
i dont feel they have really solved the problem...
They haven't.
When will townies learn the countryside is not a play area it belongs to individuals and it is a a working environment. He sounds spoilt
I love these guy's! What a team😎😎👌
Mary is within her rights as property owner and opening it up would be her risk for liability her monetary risk not theirs.
Would the guy who moved from london have allowed people to walk through his property.
I thought he had meant to call her son a computer generated image.
me too! 😂👾
Hahaha me too!
Cant understand why a peace keeper general allowed a law breaking person to sit at a table and negotiate by ex peace keeper. He should have agreed to not break the law before any discussion? He also lied on writing slander. The farmer lady and her son were proper decent people protecting their property. The owners showed decency and class. Would the walker allow free access to the public to his house or appartment. Imagine if the farmers were actually breaking the law; bet they wouldnt be treated with the same respect I live in the city but have huge respect for those country people who work with and respect nature. I spotted pathways in the grass ...did anyone check on the ecological damage caused by the walkers. Hope my comment doesnt offend; but I really feel for those kind land owners
Christ they were so rough with the poor sheep
Terrible one of them guys just chucked the poor sheep 💔
Thats quite gental, farmers only really care about slaughter weight. If they cared about the animals they wouldnt be profiling from their death
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this 🥺
He is representing his own selfish wants .
@@johnlennox-pe2nqbet she already has buyers in place. It’s not like ppl come to her back door for a side of beef. Thats not how animal farming works.
I was born in Plymouth, which makes me a Devonian and over many years of a lifetime. I have spent time walking Dartmoor. I know live in North Devon and visit Exeter because I have a right to Rome, the hills, the valleys and the medals of our great countryside of the Southwest, I think shame that open country Dartmoor is being blocked out of public access. I can’t see any problem as long as people are dear to the rules of keeping dogs on Leeds walking the given footpath walking the edge of fields if crops and livestock are in the field I can’t see a problem with that Because it’s all open country farmland, I think if the person that owns this vixen tour is worried about people claiming if they break their leg that should be made public with the notice at the start of the walk across the lounge that no compensation would be acceptable by walking on the lounge would make any Insurance no non-available and then people can make their own mind up if they want to walk on land that will not pay out Insurance but I think it’s the question of I’ve got it and you haven’t and that’s what it’s all about. We as English citizens should be allowed to Rome Peacefully across given footpaths set out by the highway code set out by British Heritage set out by the ordinance survey>
If the problem is insurance what about a 'climb on the tor at your own risk' Also as a farm i would be concerned about people and the stock, both from the stock attacking people who don't know how to interact with stock and dogs attacking sheep causing abortion and injury With no public right of way there is no right of access
This one is even easier call a surveyor have pinned off
Once again, it’s an insurance issue, ….
Perhaps it should have been sold with a caviat for public access then.its a tough one.
Why did the last owner not have a problem with insurance?
Because, they didn’t have it covered under their insurance. She has added it onto her insurance
@@florence2095 Excuse me, but WHY would you include something in your insurance if you didn't have to in the first place ? As you say: The last owner didn't have a problem and it wasn't insured ...........
Seems to me mister fudgery dudgery BOB come dad's army enthusiast should have done THAT first. Cancelled the insurance = End of problem.
Only the fat lady wants money. She wants to sell the land back and the ONLY way for her STOPPING tresspassers is by insuring the rock and becoming "possibly" liable for any injuries.
It's her land she can do what she likes with it.
😢
Do people have the right to just walk through his garden
That comment alone we walk away
the vixen tor should be owned and run by uk heritage owners and not by greedy private owners ,this is a famous beauty area ,and national trust should be involved here ,so that it can be looked after and public access permitted with admission charge to help protection of the land ,but rock climbing not allowed .
why is this difficult?
: it was up for sale
: ANYONE could of bought it
: no-one did
: she bought it so can do what she wants with it
: its now private land
In Scotland we have the right to roam EVERYWHERE, except MOD land. A Scottish farmer couldn't do this.
Only time problems could occur is if we damage the area, which we tend not to do.
No such thing as private land that I can't access in Scotland.
Then there is no problem with people you don't know from anywhere in the world coming into your yard and having a BBQ. That's cool, now I know I can camp in anyone's yard next time I visit Scotland
I smell something....
There is "Private Land" in Scotland. My land is Private Land! That simply means I bought it, I legally own it and my name is on the title deeds. Should anyone wish to walk through my land, providing they cause no damage, they are legally entitled to do so. The natural beauty of Scotland is open to everyone! I am Scottish, live in a farmhouse on my own land ; miles from any neighbour in one of the most beautiful areas of Scotland. I fully support the Right To Roam in Scotland. What I do not support is the ugly attitude of people like Jim.... a man who seems to enjoy being confrontational. All I can say is There But For The Grace Of God that I don't have to put up with him..... That man has a big problem ,,, and it's called HIMSELF.
@mazdarx7887 Only if you share....num num!
@@mazdarx7887 You'd be legally entitled to do so, if you can get in without causing any damage. The residents of the house attached to the garden might kick your head in though, be prepared for that.
She own the land end of story
She is so much smarter than this “guy”
BOB is a stiff upper lipped "action man" who has had army training on how to aim and shoot a rifle. Not much else.
'Custodians of the countryside'.. Is that pile still doing the rounds? 'Custodian' as in how knights and lords, victorious in battle, would demand the children of the vanquished would go live with them? Just in case? It's a hostage situation. Particularly, when it comes to ancient sites and monuments, the farmer/landowner group has a less than stellar profile when it comes to robbing out ancient sites to build/augment/repair field boundaries.
So, it's three minutes in. I should really watch the rest of this. I just wanted to point out that 'custodians of the countryside' old chestnut. Also, I think it would be fantastic if a body language expert could observe her delivery of it. .... 'Cause I spotted something. I mean - perhaps, she faltered because she knows how trite and flawed the claim is. Perhaps, she faltered because she was trying to remember the precise wording of that comment her demographic keeps using. I don't think she feels it.
I liked all your comment, except for the body language expert part.
It's like asking for a tarot card reader or astrologer. :/
Surely that’s vandalism?
People should share but they won't look at what people hav become
if these people want access, they need to cough up the money for the insurance.
This should be for everyone nobody built the land and as long as nobody interferes with there business should be available to everyone just greedy selfish landowners that want to profit from something that’s been there forever,it shows they don’t care about it as they’ve vandalised it themselves.
Shame it wasn’t open one day a month…
If she could, she'd blow that rock up and use it for building walls and houses on her land to earn more money. She is the definition of entitled.
if it was my land, walk up on my land and see what won't happen.
Look I own part of my lake now it’s gorgeous but it’s mine I don’t want anyone disturbing it or polluting it and I’ve even had people go walk through my yard and set on the dock I built like it’s a park it’s annoying people coming and asking if I can fish plus she is correct if something were to happened to somebody like they drowned swimming or their kid fell in I could be liable
like trying to negotiate between a parasitic wasp and its victim caterpillar.
I cannot believe they have put spray paint on the rocks and there worried about other people
If its so important then why was the land on the market for months.why didnt the local authority buy it. If she is liable for injuries on her land then why wouldn't she stop access. Silly people
She's NOT liable for injuries on her land.
She COULD be held liable.
No judge in his right mind is going to hold her responsible for a twisted ankle while walking on her land.
Would YOU ever think of looking up who owns the land you are out walking on to take them to court over a twisted ankle and make them pay for your mistake ?
This woman is correct it is her property
No she isn't. Which is why they just lost the Dartmoor court case she was relying on to be able to stop public access. I don't know why anyone supports these land hoggers anyway. It should be like Scotland, right to roam and wild camp. Now we've got American and Chinese billionaires buying up massive areas of our land, including the local post office and shops like just happened near me, and closing them down. Banning locals from the water and land we've always used and only allowing their elites
Just ignore them Trespass in the uk is not a criminal offence it fulls under cival law
It is private property she is the owner, and she is within the law to protect herself and her family
There are many outsider's who should not spraypaint rocks too prove a point that state no access as if they were genuine outsider's they would generally know that is not right if your local however then spraypainting they no access would actually make sense as she may have lived on that land more year's than they walker but still I have always believed it was a free Country
She needs some big, protective, breach prevention dogs. And a portable water cannon, as the UK does not allow one to defend ones own with anything but complaints. I would call the sheriff the first time. the second time we call the bone wagon.
Doesn’t seem fair that the land was publicly sold due to the local interest of some of the landmarks. Having said that it’s her property and her liability if someone gets hurt. The law is the law just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you can ignore it.
People should be able to use itbut at their own risk if they hurt themselves its their own fault
When you have animals grazing that same plot of land the problem is more than people getting themselves injured. Their animals need to be a priority. Even well meaning people hiking/climbing forget to close gates, drop trash, or fed "treats" animals that sicken/kill them. I would never give open access to a pasture my livestock are in.
There's not much land in UK we should be more friendly but some just want it all for self sad but true
Charity minus expenses 0
Unfortunately Bobs starting offer was far too low , he should have plumbed for at least 1 weekend per month for 6 months of the year to be agreed by both parties and negotiated if necessary down from there ...............a one off is next to nothing other than a future building block, perhaps even trade for some unpaid lambing farm work for access ...........that would have been more of a result ...............land owners are just custodians and they should be prosecuted if like these land owners who desecrated a national historical monument with tar oil and paint and barbed wire
I'd be embarrassed if my mother was so uncaring.
This guy should have gone into more options as far as cordoning off a little space or a dirt road for limited access, as well as alleviating her legal concerns with waivers. Easy solutions that weren't mentioned, which makes me think it's more about the fight, or the TV show.
Exactly.
We had the only pool in our neighborhood, and all the kids wanted to play in it. We were happy to have them over, but there came a time when some children were not minding the safety rules, even though we had adult supervision every time. The idea of losing our home to some parents, whose kids did something stupid on our property and decided to sue us, finally had us back off of our generosity. The reality is people -who own property get sued all the time, even when you have signs posted that they do so at their own risk. I hope you can see her perspective a little better. She has her family's interest at heart. I also see the other side. I hope there were follow up negotations.
So what did he solve nothing at all.
It's wot dad's army people do. Walk around in funny hats under the impression they are important, solve nothing at all and become an integral part of the problem.
In America someone would have been shot and the shooter acquitted. Idk the law there, but if you post No Trespassing signs and someone trespasses and gets hurt, youre not liable. It does sound like she's a karen killjoy more than anything else..but you dont have the right to say "Screw property rights, Im going to go where I want". I mean you can't pick and choose which laws you want to obey. If you wouldnt shoplift or assault someone for no reason you shouldnt trespass.
She is a killjoy wanting money for access.
It’s her land
If she folds I’ll be soooooo mad
Insuring a stone !!! The woman is off her head. The insurance company should also be put to shame. WTF are they insuring ?
And here is also a prime example of why govt aren't in touch with reality if they trust old fudgery dudgery men to solve their issues.
Wot a tossah that Bob.
I'm a American we don't share land .
It's her land bottom line.
I'm a significant land owner I folks too hunt and trap.
At my discretion.
Dint try it without asking that discretion those two guys accomplished nothing.
Do you have an ancient heritage site on your property?
@@dogsenseforu301is that admitting she is the rightful owner? If so then she has the right to say no trespassing.
I LOVE THIS WOMAN DO NOT BACK DOWN
Stay string girl xxx
Modern day hitler😂
Pretty sure they just lost the Dartmoor court case she was relying on to be able to stop public access. I don't know why anyone supports these land hoggers anyway. It should be like Scotland, right to roam and wild camp. Now we've got American and Chinese billionaires buying up massive areas of our land, including the local post office and shops like just happened near me, and closing them down
She’s an entitled monster in my opinion
I respectfully disagree. I think the entitlement comes from the people who want to trespass on her land.
The government should undertake a massive project and move the historic rocks to a publicly accessible area then charge back the cost to the residents that blocked previous access and then also charge them with agregioius anti social behaviour. The charges should be enough to bankrupt those people for costing the citizens and government, also the man that was previously trespassing should be charged 50 dollars
Wow. You do believe that money solves everything don't you !
No respect for nature either.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 this country has no respect for land owners 😂😂😂
I get the problem with the risk of being sued but, out of the three of them, Jim Came off as the most likeable person, dejected or not.
It is her land. She has had legal advice that she could be liable for any injuries that the public incur. She also stated that she needs that land to farm to make her business viable. Not sure I would want strangers who don’t know how a farm is run, wandering around my property. I thought a compromise could be opening it one day a week or a month, and having people be aware of a disclaimer. I also googled this and it is still her land with no public access. Interestingly there is a guy called James (Jim?) who has a bordering property up to the Tor who is running a farm stay called Vixon Tor Farm!
Little ironic this guy can like make peace in Bosnia or what not yet can't resolve a dispute between some guy and a farmer over a rock. 😛
She bought it she owns it.... no ifs buts or coconuts. You wouldn't let someone just walk through your house. And the fact he isnt from the area then has the gall to say ohh i seen the barbed wire and writing of no public road and thought oh it must be an outsider. Sooo.... someone like yourself?
Benny Hill
One day out of 365 days raising money for charity and she still says its a one off well see
Do they have restraining orders in England? Seems like the first step.
Wot an earth does a farmer want land like that 4 anyway u can't grow anything or graze anything. We should b like Scotland and have the right to roam. In the UK the public only have 8% of access to land.😜🤪😝🤑
It's obvious that the legend of Vixana the Witch of Vixen Tor has now been realised in the form of Mary.
Technically the landowners is right but I think she is spiteful. They could charge entrance to cover the insurance.
Covering insurance costs is not the bigger issue. It’s covering lawsuits that could happen if someone is injured and sues her.
That’s the point of insurance!! - it pay out if there’s a claim! Doh! So it would be the premium and excess. They would settle any claims. We don’t have “lawsuits” in England.
She shouldn't insure it in the first place and simply say that she is NOT liable for any injuries. End of.
She insures it ONLY to be able to shut it off to the public.
She's trying VERY hard to make money out of it.
@@user-oe1mb9hu9i If only life were that simple. Just call shotgun and always ride in the front. Yell olly olly in come free when it’s time to end the game. Oh and safe base always works for saving that seat. Yet you grow up and realize words won’t stop lawsuits. Which is why ppl end up insuring against future problems created by others. Funny how that works. And while I’m at it I’m calling I’m rubber your glue, just in case.
@@mszuzubookitty4646 whatever that means !?
Previous owner DIDN't insure it WAS liable just in the same manner but had NO issues.
It IS of course possible to put up a sign saying NOT LIABLE and NOT insuring it.
You must work for an insurance company ! LOL.