I've been doing it wrong....But nobody is teaching this about farming!
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- I've been doing it wrong....But nobody is teaching this about farming! Come along today as we describe our mineral program here on the farm. We'll talk about what the cows need and in turn what the land needs to thrive! Hope ya'll learn and enjoy! truewerk.com/stoneyridgefarmer Coupon: STONEYRIDGEFARMER www.freechoice... or call (608) 723-7977 Tell them you Saw it on Stoney Ridge Farmer
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Average is 677 litres of water to produce 1 litre of milk, that’s unsustainable
In a climate that has 30+ inches of rain, it’s 677 liters of water that falls on the land and runs off into ponds/lakes/streams. The cow returns that water to the grass via urine/manure in addition to nitrogen which helps regrow the grass.
Unless your drawing from aquifers in an arid environment where that aquifer doesn’t replenish fast enough…. It is sustainable!
This comment makes absolutely no sense. That's like saying it takes 600 gallons of water to produce one gallon of orange juice from an orange grove.
My advice, and I mean this in a respectful way. Go back and study the water cycle.
I honestly don't think many people have a true understanding of how and why it works.
@@charleswise5570 it probably does, that’s why we have rivers without water due to excessive irrigation in Australia
Your numbers are not accurate. I was born and raised on a dairy farm. Studies show it's four and a half gallons of water to 1 gallon of milk. You milk cows two to three times a day and some cows will produce 4+ gallons of milk at every milking. It is physically impossible for an animal to consume that much liquid in the day
@@chrisoconnor5880 Irrigation in an area that is arid is not sustainable. The environment isn't conducive to farming.
You can't grow watermelons in a desert naturally. We can't grow a jungle in the middle of a desert. That's unsustainable.
You won me over when you pointed out the lunacy in water restrictions then looked at the camera, “that’s my politics by the way”
Thank you for teaching us how much you have to do and know to provide us with your beautiful healthy beef. I had no idea before. Your videos
Josh, your land looks amazing. I’ve been watching for 3 years and the difference is incredible. Great job!
I used this system for a couple years and the only difference I found was less money in my pocket. There’s no real research to show that cows know that they need more cobalt, or any other micro nutrients , other than salt . They will eat what most palatable to them , they will completely ignore certain ones , because it’s not palatable unless it’s mixed with something else. Also it’s nearly impossible to keep all these different minerals in stock, if you have more than a few head. Went back to mixed mineral, and separate salt, saved a few thousand and the animals look better. I couldn’t get them to eat enough copper. Doug’s a nice enough guy though but I’ll keep my money.
My thoughts exactly. I don't believe cows are smart enough to eat the minerals they need. They eat the minerals that taste good. I too use a multi and the cattle look good are are healthy.
There’s a reason for mixed minerals in a bag. This idea of separate minerals was used years ago back in the 50’s and 60’s and it failed. One example is magnesium it’s unpalatable as well as other minerals and they won’t eat them the way they should. This idea was the reason for mixed minerals based on your location. Not a bag of trace minerals that’s nothing more than salt with traces of minerals. Typically you can go to your local co-op or feed store and get a blended mineral that’s formulated for whatever situation you need for your cattle.
@@Kevstermartin good example with magnesium , that was probably one of the main reasons they started mixing minerals back in the day to combat grass tetany , otherwise the cows won’t touch it. When I was using this cafeteria style, there was a direct correlation in consumption with the ratio of sweetener use, whether it be alfalfa meal,molasses product, or salt . You can still buy a lot of the separate ingredients at the feed mill, but you will find that most are not very palatable , especially copper sulfate, whatever magnesium supplement , phosphorus, etc. All of free choice enterprises minerals are mixed with something else to make it more enticing .
Please give us an update on how the super soil worked out. Treated versus untreated plot. I'm interested in this product. Thanks for your videos I enjoy them.
it's coming soon!
Your fields look the best they have since I started watching.
Another great video! Thanks for the shout out. Keep up the great work. The farm is looking great
Lespedeza is an excellent grass for protein content like alfalfa. In fact Several farmers are planting it for hay now.
my cows eat it last....They must be too darn picky or the other grasses must be delicious lol
You are a good teacher Josh. Keep up the great work.
Makes so much more sense than a single mineral block! Just like we are deficient in certain ones but not all .. and too much of some can be worse than not enough. And the land and cattle look amazing! God bless ❣️
You haven't really been doing it wrong, you have been learning from your mistakes which adds to experience, you and your wife are doing just great, a lot more farmers should take note of the way you are doing it.
This year in Arizona has been bad too... the monsoons never really came. Fields look so dry. When I finally get home to WNC the green is gonna look so nice in contrast.
Soil test, see what’s needed, make up a mix and apply directly to pasture, as has been successfully done in New Zealand for 100 years
While I agree that a soil test is very important.....This is 100% what we are not doing on this farm my brother...we're looking at holistic grazing methods v/s spreading petroleum based chemicals on the land. The value here is forage, forage makes manure, forage and carbon makes soil and we don't need to call the co-op and pay $10k for fertilizers when we have cattle to do the job for us my friend
Healthy soil is living soil. Studies have been done. Chemicals lose badly against biological remediation.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer you only have to apply exactly what you’ve got in your minerals, no fertiliser needed, but you’ll get it on in a 10th of the time
@@critical-thought who talking chemicals, I could get his mineral needs on his 150 acres in 2 hours with a liquid spreader, zero chemicals
Speak the truth brother!!!! Love it!!
Our farm is using Flora-stim clay based minerals from ancient clay deposit in Mississippi. It is sun dried so bio-life is still available. You just to top dress it. Great results.
Growing up in the 70's / 80's our landlord raise Appaloosa horses and in their stable they had that mineral bar type thing for the horses. Animals have the great ability to go / find the minerals that they need.
Have to keep the cows healthy
We can see the great improvements you have made since you started farming. No one talks about it but how are you going with growing soil?. I'm always blown away when I check my fence ground wires & they're 1-2" under new soil! One of the many good side effects of good regen practices.
Hundreds of tons of biomass has built up over the past 7 years on the farm, both from mowing and from grazing. Takes time, but the results can clearly be seen...there was just sandy dry soil before, now it's turning black and holding moisture!
How long did it take to teach the cows the abbreviations for the minerals? 🐮
Nice addition to the farm. We added free choice minerals to our farm (@Grazing Acres Farm) 4 years ago. You will learn quick which minerals your land needs to most. You will want to replace the rope with a chain, in the winter the feeder freezes to the ground.
100% it's silly what we use our resources on. I use to live in Arizona in a community that required a plant every 5 square feet. None of these were native plants and they had a lot of grass areas they kept watered year round.
Great episode!!!
Your doing a great thing Josh. My papaw milked Holstein cows for the milk they gave and a truck from a milk producer would come and get the milk. He had a 900 gallon cooler for milk. I would go and round up the cattle on my honda 125. It was easy to get them but papaw always told me to not hurry the cattle he was afraid I would get them running and they might break a leg. He had a great milk system for the 70's. Top notch! He had a block built milk house. Raised hogs, huge garden which is where I learned to break beans. He had a smoke house where he made true country hams in the south. He had a 200 acre farm but it was hilly if you know what I mean. Best time of my life living on that farm!
Such an important video! Thank you.
Don't forget to keep free choice salt available at all times so they don't overeat the minerals to get the sodium
You are a true lawn care nut my brother!! Good stuff all around. Also, the grass plays a big part in the top soil through root cycling. It's all part of the process working together.
Greg Judy was doing that before but has gone over to a mix.
My pasture is definitely multispecies lol. My issue is the i don't have the stocking density to reap the benefits of rotational grazing. I have noticed the 2 acres i rotate 6 sheep on is definitely looking better.
I didn't know that cattle don't like sericea lespedeza! In the goat world, it's something I defnitely want MORE of here! When goats eat it, it helps create a deworming effect, plus has nutrition that they need.
I absolutely love the mineral buffet - and really wish I could afford to get it for my small herd.
That's why it is such a good idea to run more than one species on your farm (if you can): they prefer different plants.
Eg. Greg Judy runs cattle and sheep an somtimes rents a small herd of goats to fight certain weeds and/or brushes.
I recently watched this video about making a mineral feeder yourself. For goats a smaller version should work. hth.
ruclips.net/video/wZejYcOIE-U/видео.html
Awesome video Josh thanks for all the info
Hey Josh thank you for another good video woo
Mid Midwest we call that intensive Grazing.
Excellent advice and job Josh ❤😊😮
Possible to get an update on how the mineral feeder is going & the differences you’re experiencing over the past 9 months?
first....it's a pain in the butt to move....which ends up making it something that I just don't move anymore. It's great for a large pasture, but for rotational grazing with 2 times a day moving...it's too combersom. The expense is astronomical also....I can keep a mineral block in the pasture all year round for about $300. This cost about $2800 per ton of mineral...it's super expensive! Great for the cows, bad for the wallet and inconvenient for my grazing style
I think all the stuff you do is cool. I am new to homesteading and I am basing the way I care for my land on the things I learn from not just RUclips but also classses I take and books I read.
I am a big proponent of education, that's why I tune into many channels and read books.
I also like the fact that you allow people to comment on your videos. Some people like to give their unsolicited opinions some based on knowledge and some on belief to get a rise out of you, sometimes it seems to work, and they get their satisfaction when you respond.
Great vid sir.. 👌 . My kids love chocolate but im not going to put it in front of them all the time though 😉🤣.. but there is a balance to find and its nice seeing you trying things... Have you got a small mole plough? Excellent for drainage and letting air into the grass roots to boost its growth without chemicals also.. but your better having one with a slitter disc in front of the leg .. it saves ripping the grass ect.. stay safe 🏴
Yea I would keep your eye on that bull, also! Love your videos!
Hey Josh, I love watching your videos and the way you are working your butt off to rebuild your soil. Kudos to you. I’m sure you get plenty of suggestions on things you should be doing; this is just an FYI. I just finished a 3 day Soil Health Academy with Understanding Ag. It’s totally worth the time and money. Have a great day.
Awesome video Great work !
U are doing it the right way, and the only way it should be done . I implicated at least 6 dairy farms on free choice for sodium carbonate wich the dairy cows love that and there was less sick cows
The proof is always in the product. How much better is his pasture now than when he began improving it? How much better is his livestock now since he began improving his farm land?
The primary goal is to keep water on the land and in the land as long as possible.
Deserts and growing desertfaction areas are being returned to grass lands and forests with proper plant and animal management. Accumulating water and directing it where plants are being cultivated. Add it as these areas grow. Properly managed ruminant animals strengthened the returning grasslands and forests.
One of the larger water quality problems is people and their lawns. If putting fertilizer on your lawns according to the directions is good, putting ten times as much is better. The result is huge amounts of nitrogen and phosphorus in creeks, rivers, and wells.
If you google for "15415 beef", you get 261.000 results. That is the amount of water what they say the production of 1 kg beef needs. Every journalist is copying that number. But where does it come from? There was a study (IIRC in the Netherlands), where they did this:
You need 1 ha (=2,5 acres) for 2 cows of 500 kg (~ 'animal units') each. Pastures need rain. They have some 600mm or 24 inches of rain there. That is 6.000.000 litres for 2 cows per year. They will be processed after 2 years. Assuming a 'hanging weight' of 400kg we are at 15.000 litres per kg. So that calculation seems to be correct.
The only thing they forgot to tell everybody is that the rain will drop on that pasture regardless of whether there are cows or not.
How do you like the Supersoil? I never heard of it and just placed and order. Will be using it on my foodplot for deer. Thanks man, you're killing it!
As always-GREAT info and entertainment!
Just like oyster shell for the chickens! 😁👍
Josh, this is really cool stuff, as always!
What would be cool is comparing results from soil tests you might have done from a couple years ago, and now. I'm absolutely 100% sure, the neh sayers will be blown away!
Your herd is so happy and healthy compared to other cattle I've seen raised " Traditionally".
Thanks for your hard work and dedication!
That South Poll bull is coming along. Are those calves off of him or is his next season? The calves look great one way of the other.
Question abouit the mineral feeder. As RNs we both know that certain 'lytes in the wrong amounts, (too much Na, K etc.,) is detrimental to us humans. Still, we will eat salty foods because they taste good. Will the herd consume certain minerals because they just taste good rather than because they are replenishing what they are lacking? Does it matter with cattle?
cattle have the choice to get the minerals that they need to thrive, the minerals that are lacking in the soil and the minerals that help with bone, musculature, digestion and body systems. I would say the acceptation to this is Sodium. Cattle on pasture need a sodium supplement no matter what. So again....I move the mineral feeder in with them virtually every day, but most of the time it's about every 2 days especially if they are "hanging out" there. What you saw today was one day without minerals they all came to it for about 5 mins each and then ignored it for the rest of the day. They say cattle will choose what they need. Other mineral supplements are multiple minerals...which risks overconsumption of a particular mineral if the mix is improper for the pasture or feedlot
@StoneyRidgeFarmer thanks Josh. Appreciate the knowledge. I guess in regard to mineral and salt consumption cattle are smarter than humans.
Do your cattle get salt as well as minerals?
NA is the mineral Salt my friend....yeppers it's one of the minerals I put in the feeder
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What microbs are you using? And are they working?
Same people that have a hard on against cattle and the water required will drink almond "milk" by the gallon. Almond juice is about as water input intensive as it gets.....
Cool mineral trough. Curious......could those minerals be put into salt blocks (create new salt/minerals blocks) ? Also, have you considered making some copper antennas to put in the ground ? Copper is a wonderful metal for so many things.
I put mineral/salt block out for our deer. They love it and are much healthier looking. I too have a Carolina piedmont depleted soil. Cotton and then hay with no assist to the soil. Had no organic content. After 3 years there is a multi species pasture that is generating its own nutrients and organic matter. If I was haying I would easily be getting one more cutting than my first year.
I’m on the fence when it comes to water restrictions. For starters, the restrictions are necessary, but the figures and science used to determine water consumption were extremely flawed and we’re still doubling down on those bad figures and regulations that spawned from them. With that said, water is the most precious resource on earth and proper use and regulations are critical to allow future generations not having to sell their homes for a freaking glass of water.
maybe instead of water restrictions....we need to look at population restrictions!!!!! But that would hurt the tax basis ....so it's not about water...it's about money isn't it? Frustrating!
I don't want to be an idiot, but I have a hard time believing that a cow would know what would be best for her. I believe that no animal knows, rational or not. I believe that they "will choose" more those that are more palatable and easier to access. So I would bet that the minerals that are in the trough corners will always be the most consumed. (two sides to open the lid to the largest trough area).
But these are my 2 cents on this. Regardless of this, I could not congratulate you for always seeking to improve your land and your creation... and still allowing us to follow your steps.
thanks
Love what you're doing and love your Politics lol😅. I'm dreaming of doing the same just in another country. I just can't help but wonder though regarding this mineral feeder if maybe the cows are more likely to eat the ones on the ends as it seems easier for them to lift up the rubber cover at the end corners. Just a thought. How much seems to be consumed near the center and if it's less, maybe it's just harder for them to get to?
You ever let livestock push you around with their snout? Nothing stops these animals from pushing a floppy rubber flap out of their way. Goats would easily push that flap around aswell. These animals are strong
@@GM6.7 I just remember running away and jumping a fence from my uncles bull 😆
@sappir26 I have two goats and been around my neighbors herd those animals are unapologetic when they destroy everything because they are so muscular
How many head of cattle would you have to have to make a decent living oh you farm without any other income? No social media.
Bovine can only eat til about 3 or 4 inches where equine will eat all the way to ground
bovine will eat down to 1/2 inch if you overgraze my brother...trust me I see it....and I've unfortunately done it
As I learned from raising my Rottweiler, one pound in then ten pounds out. Same for a cow!
Josh, have you "infectted" your neighbors?,..... I mean are they following your example already?, Your land seems amazing great job 🎉
Wouldn't it be easier to remineralize your soil? With like rock dust or whatever natural mineralizer you choose. Then the cows would get their mineral needs through eating the grass that's grown on it.
That is what he is doing he just uses the cows to apply the minerals instead of diesel fuel.
@@jimgreenan8126 I guess you didn't hear about the new technology that doesn't use any fuel. 🤔 my only concern is mineral toxicity if the cows are ingesting too much of it strait up, or too much of any one particular mineral while still lacking another. Especially the younger ones. What's better? Eating nutritionally dense food or taking supplements? And in order to know exactly what vitamins and/or minerals your body is lacking, that requires regular blood tests. So I would think the same is true with any animal.
@@sappir26 I was sort of wondering how well the cows ate what they needed, versus my kids will always choose the candy bar over the peas. Would certain minerals be more of a treat and that is why they would eat it, instead of because they are lacking it?
“Don’t live in the desert “ he says. Try looking up the Imperial Valley in California. When I was a kid that Valley produced more pounds of beef than the entire state of Texas.
yep...and the colorado river is going dry
Because the idiots in L.A. and Palm Springs keep wanting more golf courses. If you eat a head of lettuce in January you can bet it probably came from the Imperial or Yuma Valleys. Your welcome
ok i see. they need it anyway, otherwise they crap it out, feed the land. I don't know about this salad bar (cow choosing) business Josh... Are cows like an English Springer with their nose to sniff out what they are deficient in? At any rate, it's interesting! I'm just the Deli Man! Debate is American!
@@willbass2869 interesting comment to me. Thank you! I'm not a rancher, just a fan, commenting. Watch Open Range with Kevin Costner and James Duval.
Dumb suggestion with your testing- if your cow eats the mineral on one plot, how long does it take for the mineral to move through the cow? Meaning is it pooping out on the next pasture?
Course you suggest this after I post lol
So the cows like Cow-cium? Cleaver. I see what you did there.
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Josh, where did you order the feeder? I'm interested in one as well. Thanks
link in video description as well as text in the video my friend....free choice minerals...just click show more in the video description my friend
Can you give update on the super soil?
coming soon!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmerthank you sir!
107 in Kansas today
ouch...and no trees!! Or very few in most of the plains....rough on cattle
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer At least is cloudy with some breeze
Sounds like how the buffalo have eaten for hundreds of years, no wonder they survive so well!!🙈🙉🙊
Greg Judy has been for years teaching free choice minerals for his livestock. Just like I said you have to follow directions.
Can’t you add the minerals and lime to help with the ph? They are natural right. It’s not like adding fertilizer that’s all chemicals.
I don't feel you will see a benefit to the soil immediately as you hope. Because it takes time to wash the minerals into the root zone, it will not be an immediate response. I would be interested to see the soil analysis in comparison to what they are eating. Feeding loose minerals, including salt, is known for being better as the animals can not get enough through a lick. I have researched the minerals a fair bit and what I have found is that quite a few of the loose minerals are not natural and therefore the animals need to eat more to build their levels back up again, should they be depleted. Interesting video.
With your kind of acreage, I recommend far more cattle.
@StoneyRidgeFarmer I'm really enjoying your videos on replenishing the land with the cattle. But I do wonder... Are the cattle at all like my kids. Would they simply be consuming more P or Na or whichever mineral, simply because those taste good, like a treat to them. Could that also be why mineral blocks have a mix of minerals.. some to entice the cattle to consume it, sort of like me adding sugar to a pot of carrots to get my kids to eat them.
Is there a blood test or some test that could be done on a cow to see if it was lacking in any minerals? Then tag that cow to keep track of which one it was and turn it back in the field and see if that mineral is what the cow is actually going to eat.
I really enjoy the science aspect of things would really like to see the results of such a test.
it's not candy my friend....these are minerals...no sugar or molasses in them so it's not appetizing
Not slide it’s a sled
Do you have a molasses tank for your cows?
Politics. Arizona is a dry heat. They don't suffer with humidity like the South East (Florida/Alabama, Mississippi, Geowgia, TN, Sacolina, N,.Sacolina).
Weather or climate not politics. Here, it's deep woods OFF baby~! WOOO!
Josh I see you got a truewerk shirt- do you have their pants? I am an electrician and I need new pants and haven’t found any I like yet. Don’t like the carhart pockets and the correct Milwaukee is too skinny
Why not just put a mineral box at all the watering holes so you don't have to keep moving it to each paddock every time? You can latch it closed when they're in a paddock you don't want them to have it in and it's accessible from each paddock that's accessible to the waterer. Saves you time, gas and wear and tear on your quad and the box from being dragged around a lot and they know right where to go for it all the time.
COST!!! And....you don't put mineral right next to the water.....imagine a version of yourself, with an IQ of 40 eating salt right beside a water fountain.....that's asking for problems my brother...the mineral feeder should be a few hundred feet from the water tanks or they'll eat it, drink and pee...eat it...drink and pee. Each bag costs about $25...the feeders cost over $500. This is not the cheap way that's for sure
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer that makes sense. But like I said, you could latch it shut and only allow access when you want them to and it would be accessible from many paddocks without having to move it all the time. I'm just spit balling suggestions. There's many ways to skin a cat. Do what you want.
From watching his videos, it seems like other than the water because it'd be hard to move a water source, moving the minerals around also lets the grass that was covered under the box recover. Otherwise, the cattle constantly going to the same spot and the grass not getting sunlight, you'd end up with dead grass under the box and grass trampled down all around it. Thus, you'd have a muddy mess eventually. Plus having the minerals in the same place would mean after they eat the minerals and go poop, you'd have a higher concentration of poop in one area. A concern for raising cows without antibiotics. Moving the minerals around seems like a similar idea to how he unrolls his hay in different spots each time. Spread out the "cow patties" so they are not highly concentrated in one area.
@@clinta..3702 His watering holes are in a fixed location like the hub of a wheel which all the cattle go to anyway so it wouldn't be any more trampled than it already is. My point is that you have to go the the gate to open it to the next paddock and are already there where you can have it available to them as they are passing through for a while and then lock it back up so they can't do like he was saying and just hang out there and eat it all up. I don't think there's any hard law of nature that says cows have to poop right at the mineral box is as soon as they use it so I'm sure there wouldn't be any more build up there than it would be anywhere else you were to put it. I'm not saying it would be better or worse than how he's doing it. I'm sure it doesn't take that much time and wear and tear on things dragging it around. I'm just suggesting other things to try to help out and be more cost and time effective. Just like how he changed his paddock set up to how it is now by gating them all in a hub-like fashion at the watering hole instead of how he started out doing it. I was going to make that suggestion when I first saw how he did it and didn't. Someone else did and he saw it and made the change. I thought this time I would speak my mind and maybe it would help. It doesn't matter to me either way he does it, and like I said before, his reasoning does make sense how he's doing it and that seems to be the way people do it that do it so it's up to him however he wants to do things, I'm just throwing out ideas. Just because everyone does things one way doesn't mean there's only one way to do things.
I would say mobility is important because where cattle drink and eat creates a concentration of urine and manure. When you move it move those concentrations with it.
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there is no sponsor....and anything mentioned is linked in the video description buddy...click show more my friend
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I was looking for Truewerk link the clothes you were wearing and stated the video was brought to us by Truewerk.
Cost?? Heard its super expensive…are base minerals from China? Cadmium toxicity is an issue when minerals come from china
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50 cows= one donkey per group?
1 donkey in with the cows....remember she's in there for protection of the young calves....if a calf is attacked by a coyote....the donkey will get rid of it....there's no "set in stone" number of donkeys per number of cows
Nurse...now workin on your doctorate in farming.
Where is the minerals coming from us save sources or China crap
Why would I be buying cattle minerals from China?
U are doing it the right way, and the only way it should be done . I implicated at least 6 dairy farms on free choice for sodium carbonate wich the dairy cows love that and there was less sick cows
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