Bros, majority of people in Nigeria don't like the truth that's why we are were we are today. Whoever that is the president of Nigeria simply replicate the mind and life of the majority. Keep up with your sincere work. I be your be biggest fan for life.
The example of the white blood cells, kidney and liver is just WOW! I had kidney issues that the Lord healed me from, so that example really really hits home for me. Thank you for this post General George!!
From the intro, Paul with stood Peter. When Peter was making a mistake in the public. Galatians 2. from verses 11. Saying we should only pray to God when our fathers are making mistakes, biblically is wrong. Much love to the body of Christ.
It's so sad to see the four-fold ministry being explained like this. Without any controversy, thank God for the likes of Dr Damina that has helped to explain some of these biblical concepts that many are struggling to.
When has it reduced to 4 fold sir? Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors, Evangelist....I know of 5 fold from my Bible ooo... When did we reduce it again ?
No matter the intensity of the onslaught of deception and false prophets, Christianity cannot be decimated, ever. CHRIST IS THE BUILDER OF HIS CHURCH, the gates of hell cannot prevail against it.
Hmm! That Bishop okonkwo's answer is something else. A true born again do not sin because he has forsaken the devil, the world and the flesh and is given to righteousness. So, we must be prfect as our heavenly father is. God bless you for your works of observation.
I totally agree with Pastor Ogbueli about the forums where pastors can reach each other but knowing how some prophets think they are top prophets in Africa ….
When the Apostle said I can't sleep when I see such was an expression, A figurative expression. He meant to say i am trouble when I see these things, I am seriously restless, am trouble unless I can respond or make correction on the things people say or how they contradict the scriptures.
The main issue is doctrinal. For many years, most of these fathers in the faith have been controlling and manipulating people with a wrong doctrine. Most of these Pastors know each other personally and there’s a breaking out of an agenda that has held church members in bondage and the fact that this is happening there’s a reaction amongst them. No one is a defender of the faith except the one who preaches the truth because the word of God itself is full proof of what is true and what is deceptive. So anyone who will come out and say we all play different roles in the body doesn’t know what the scriptures teach. All functions and expressions in the body of Christ have one goal and that is ”for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;“ Ephesians 4:12-14 KJV
The issue of placing too much emphasis on men of God is that we don't see the men anymore. Like the TB Joshua matter, people were comparing Joshua to Jesus: Jesus was called Beelzebub etc. They forgot about Peter who tried to fight back. Also the Bible says we will suffer and be persecuted: fighting it is benign to me. And I wasn't there when God called these men, I'm not spending my life trying to prove or disprove said calling, I'm searching for God instead.
You are right, The 5 fold ministry all work together to perfect the saints but their functions are not the same. The role they play are not the same.. the role of an apostle to the body isn't same either the Teacher or the Pastor. Typing with a phone is much more easy bro Their are men with so much impact and results.
I saw this video of the man talking about the Pastors that have been divorced and married again. Him saying this was OK is wrong. God ( His Word) alone should be our example and focus.
Response to the interview with ps about divorce- just because some of our ministers divorced does not mean we should build on that. We don’t condemn them but we know nobody sets out to get married with the hope to divorce. Please let’s not glorify what is not God’s will just because we want to feel good about it.
The Bible says God hates divorce and that's period. I wonder why anyone would want to embrace and even defend what the Bible says God hate. People should follow God and not men o. A lot of people will be disappointed at last for their sheepish followership of man. The concept of discipleship is all about men following Jesus through the lives of other men that are also following. You keep following as long as you can clearly see Christ through them(which means you as a person can also recognize Christ for yourself); immediately the vision gets blurry, you are expected to keep off. Remember, there is only one Lord!
God hates divorce as He hates any other sins. Yet He embraces divorcees that are willing to return back to Him through Jesus Christ. Being a divorcee does not categorically mark-you out as a permanent sinner who is not worthy of Christ's salvation.
Read Matthew 5:31-32 regarding what the Lord Jesus Christ taught about divorce. He said a man could divorce his wife if she's unfaithful to him and that's the only condition He gave for divorce. But unfortunately nowadays most men have extra marital affairs, divorce their faithful wives and go on to marry their mistresses. Those are the kinds of remarriages that the Lord Jesus Christ calls adulterous.
@@mushimbwakafuta4083 Yes you are right, but that's as long as he or she is willing to remind unmarried. Note in that verse 32 that the one who married him or her that's divorced has committed adultery. You can also check 1Cor 7:11 and see that part of the condition is to remain unmarried. Note that the act of testing one, two, three wives and keep changing them until you find your match is unscriptural and God can never approve of that no matter who practice it. Bible has a standard for marriage. Seek the face of God before you go ahead and let God be the one leading you, if that's the case, you can't ever get it wrong. However, if your believe it to married who YOU like and not whom GOD gives; expect unreconcilable challenges in the marriage.
No man is right 100% of the time and no man is wrong 100% of the time because we ALL know and prophesy IN PART; none of us knows everything - 1 Cor. 13:9. Only God is omniscient.
When God hated sin, God solved the problem of Sin God hate Divorce, God solved the Problem of Divorce, - Jesus The Word of God is the Solution, and common sense
Read Matthew 5:31-32 on what the Lord Jesus Christ taught about divorce. So what He said about men being allowed to divorce their wives only if they become unfaithful to them still stands.
If one divorce he and she should remain on married…but if you forgive yourselves with plans not to hurt each..then you both can move on happily. I think If people take out time to understand each other (not to make the other live for you) and focus on what is best for the common good of all…treat the other as you treat your own self…I believe marriages and homes will fare better. This is so because there are no perfect individuals and no perfect marriage by extension
People should really just read their Bibles and meditate on it daily. Christ was very clear. John 8:31-32 So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
The Unity in the body of christ pastor Femi talked about, it's like they've forgotten so soon that so many pastors saw Idahosa as false and materialistic, many even Kumuyi didn't come close.. As regards the issue of divorce Christ is still the standard, in as much as I love Olumide Emmanuel so much I disgree with him on that fact siting Joyce mayer and copeland. Recently Joyce mayer got a tattoo and was justifying it. Another observation and something I actually find disturbing is Pastor Chris validating Ulbert Angel, Lovy, Passion Java alot of people will actually see them as true men of God because of their relationship with Pastor Chris
There is love when the focus is Jesus but no more love when focus becomes money. Today.s men of God focus on how to gain more money through people and it is really difficult to advise them when they are doing wrong because they do not care about Jesus but care about the impact in their congregation
The Bible cannot be broken. Simply because they divorced and remarried does not mean they are in the will of God. Jesus said they will say, I cast out demons in your name but He will say to them I do not know you. Stay in the word of God.
The easiest way to fish out a false teacher is when you see a man divorcing his wife….you can't be a man of God and you don't understand marriage… Apostle Paul said marriage is a picture of how Christ married the church…and Christ is faithful to us Christians..a man must be faithful to his wife that shows that he understands the gospel of Jesus Christ
But we follow him though we can be perfected now...men and women are perfected in Christ.…in marriage and those who are gifted with singleness still are perfect in the lord because a true believer is married to jesus Christ.
Men make mistakes. Samson was anointed, Solomon, David the friend of God killed his friend to cover up his affair. Abraham slept with his wife's maid even when God said Sarah will conceive: why didn't he ask God again, he was also a prophet right?? The calling doesn't make them less human. Thomas and Peter ate, slept and walked with Jesus Himself but we're still themselves.
Do remember the prophet micaiah 1 kings 22:10-28 but in vs 24 zedekiah walked up to Micaiah and slapped him when vs19-23 indicated he was speaking right. I’m so happy Jehoshaphat had sense to ask for a prophet.
George, take for example Paul trying to explain his doctrine to the rest of the apostles before getting their right hand of salute/support/endorsement.
What We need to know is that man is not God that He can not make an erro and God is not a man to make any erro, everyone is a man or woman before they come to a realise and Be called a man of God or woman of God , so erro is inevitable to a man or any woman who is saving God. and there is no where in the Bible where it states that only those with a biger number of people must correct others, correction can come from anyone whom God has given the Burden to speak about it. and correcting every erro you see does not make someone all perfect or that He can not be aslo in erro and be correct. But please my request is that let the leaders of different denominations know how to adress others . 1) by coming out and mention the names without fear just as paul mention peters' hypocrisy in the church. & 2) let the leaders be able to communicate in privacy and correct one another without restrictions cause its because of this that mamy clergy men tend to adress issues online. and this does not help christions in the growth of there faith but rather distroys it completely and you will find many believers not growing in their faith and kingdom matters. lets stop the african mentality of highrucking everything and no corrections to father , no no no. things of God dont depend on experiences only but more on revelation. please let our african clergy men and women stop all these fights especialy online because there are actualy not buiding but distroying and they must remember that one day they will be answerable to God. let them lead by love and love is all that difine God.
Let’s stop using emotionalism to embrace everything. As much as I want peace and unity, with so called servants of God no more aligned to God, we sadly cannot have unity. Look at the quality of servants of God in that video of Myles Munroe. Daddy Idahosa, Rev Guti. Their lives and moral standards were in unity before they could be in unity as servants of God. As long as we remain united in one God, Jesus, that’s when true unity can be seen
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” - Matthew 5:32, NIV
They did not like Elisha, , Jeremiah, Daniel & Paul and yes, Yahusha! And Yahusha told us if they(??men of God profiting on the people) did not like him, they will not like us
Our beloved Osinachi would have been alive if not because of following the letter and not the Spirit, died in the name of obeying the letter forgetting about the state of the heart. It is the hardness of the heart that causes all troubles. Divorce, money mongering etc are the symptoms. Israel divorced God sereval times because of the state of the heart. If one is hardened and divorce is the sign of the heat. All sins are sins. We make noise on divorce and ignore other matters. Heart is the issue.
Olumide Emmanuel should get out of the ministry. God had left him and he does not know. Pastors 23:29 who divorced and remarried are living for themselves and not for God. If you have a big ministry does not mean God is with you. The word of God cannot be broken.
I don't know why someone will choose to do the work of the HOLY SPIRIT. For the HOLY SPIRIT to use a man to correct doesn't mean its the man that correct and its his job. The HOLY SPIRIT can use anyone and same way EVIL SPIRIT can use a pastor to seem as if he is correcting but in the SPIRIT destroying. So how do you know who is of the HOLY SPIRIT and is not, answer is LOVE, you know if the person has LOVE in him or her. 1 Corinthians 13:1-4
Why do these pastors prioritise endorsing or degrading each other higher than preaching the word of God? Is it because they lack the knowledge of who God is and what He requires of those He called to be His witness?
Seriously,when I saw this Dr Ogbueli's video,I was concerned.It's kind of equivocal. Having a Prophets'/Pastors' forum? It would eventually become an 'association' and many bad things would be buried underneath. The freedom to say the truth would be lost. And I think Apostle Arome Osayi personally would not like the idea. It looks like Dr Ogbueli is trying to keep a good record simultaneously on two opposite sides.
We are in a new day where evil is right and good is bad. We are in a time when you can record with your phone. Sexual abuse is rampant What are they saying. Jesus was blunt so let’s read Matthew 12 aff god again. Yes Arome is right 2 believers divorce is not the option. We is it in the Bible He was not a Christian when he was married in the past. This man is misleading the ppl to cover himself
Yes, pastor David. More need to set things straight wrong is now the new right and the Kabul of darkness prophet it taking people to hell with sweet lies. You go ahead Apostle Arome
Dr D is spoiling the church business and the beneficiaries are crying. The bottomline No more tea drinking with God or Riding Range Rover in Heaven Too much tithe from the poor while while the pastor exhibits lavish lifestyle. No more of those and thanks to Dr Damina.
I wonder when "Apostle" Arome Osayi will correct "Apostle" Joshua Selman on his statements 1. Not everything in the Bible is the word of God 2. Some things Paul wrote are wrong. I really wonder if corruption has caught up with the ministry of correction 🥱 Anyway, there're no more Apostles today. Anyone claiming that office is a fraud, liar and deceiver.
He didn’t say not everything in the Bible is the word of God. I know the message you’re talking about- The Spirit of Revelation. What he said was that the Bible should not be read in isolation without the help of the Holy Spirit, because it was compiled and translated by men over time, and as a result some errors could have been introduced in the process. What he said was that the essence of scripture is to reveal God and this can only happen when the Holy Spirit opens it up to you. You can go back and listen to the message again. Let’s be careful how we quote people especially men of God.
@@chinazooforjigha-dim7936 "Not every word written here is the word of God" Selman doesn't understand what the word of God is. "The word of God is any part in this Bible that is able to give you Spirit and life" ~Selman They are scriptures because they are inspired by God. Men wrote it, yes but not by their own will. Jesus often quoted the old testament prophets. The Apostles did the same. None of them ever gave the slightest hint that, "not everything in the scriptures is the word of God" . Yet, we should believe Joshua Selman's gynastics which twists the scriptures to say that the word of God is the part that gives you life? He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. There are descriptive and prescriptive texts in the scriptures and they are all inspired. In the same Clip, he said some things Paul said are wrong according to the character of God's word. "wow!!" how deeeep!!! Even Peter, John, John and the other Apostles didn't know this. The early church didn't know this either. Selman is so deep. Unfortunately the early church missed out on this putrid revelation. Paul wrong? Hmmmm... Perhaps you should go back and listen to the clip again.
Mark 10:4-9 New International Version 4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” 5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
False teachings - trinity, infant baptism, tithing, not to divorce, fathers of faith so big that you can not correct them, usage of the cross, Christmas et al.
Divorce is not a sin. It cannot be because God does not legislate sin, He does not tell people how to do sin so that sin will be just. Divorce is not desirable but it is anticipated amongst mankind, being that it is impossible for people in a fallen state, whose hearts are often deceptive, dishonest, to fully get along. The divorce of Malachi, among the priests, had to do with unfaithfulness, a taking advantage of in a callous way, which is what the 'violence' referred to. There was injustice. Divorce was not introduced in Israel by Moses any more than sleeping at night was! Moses merely legislated the most honourable way to do it; there was some sort of an investigation, likely some mefiation, counselling, and the divorce paper stated the divorce reason and any fault on the part of the woman. Just like cutting off a member of one's body or the cutting off that the vinedresser does, no such cutting is desirable but the fact is, it is often expedient, even necessary! The Father of Jesus Christ does not make mistakes. Restoring order is often painful; Jesus Christ knew the pain of being cut off from His Fathet on the cross. Was that a divorce? When a sinner is cut off from God, is that a divorce? Divorce happens because terms, conditions, hopes, and aspirations are breached, sometimes inconsolably, irreparably. Whether the divorce happens in a law court (which the Levites oversaw in the Israeli culture) or privately within a home, unannounced, discreet, it is the same thing, only that one type is more honest, allows for healing, and contains the spread of poison and possible pollution, toxicity. That's what cutting off a diseased branch can achieve. There are many things God hates. Some of them are outrightly sin or a perversion. God does not legislate any sin or perversion. God so hated the violence and corruption in the days of Noah that He drowned all land creatures, save Noah and his family. God so hated Adam's sin that He drove him from Eden and condemned that creation. God hates unjust weights but does not kill the guilty instantly. God so hated Israel's constant rebellion that God divorced them publicly and wrote them a certificate, His very prescription! God did something the nation understood. Just like men die, disagreements and divorce will continue until the restoration of all things. When asked about a particular divorce practice, the Lord Jesus referred to what Moses said; He did not counter Moses as to nullify existing order; that would be lawless. He was right to say we are hard hearted and that before sin made hearts hard, 'it was not so'. The trouble is, NOBODY knows how the beginning was; Adam could not transmit the memory. For us to be having this conversation betrays our condition, born under sin- hard hearted. Nothing on earth today is how it was in the beginning. It may be sheer pretence, or pride for anyone subject to physical death to aver he knows how things were at the beginning or that he, or we, mankind, is able to come into that experience. What we must strive for is to uphold righteousness and justice and to pursue peace with all men, especially the brethren and family members. This will yield favourable results sometimes- hopefully, more times, and at other times, lead to a scattering, a putting apart. In both cases, the Lordship of Jesus is intact and His grace may go with all the parties. Either may be the better option; one's conduct through the process, in respecting God's precepts and upholding due order, and the fruit that follows is all we have to go on and judge by. Selah.
George i use not to like you but as the scales fell of my eyes since last year i appreciate your scrutiny!!!! God bless you
God bless your ministry George, God is on your side
I learn more,when ever I listen to your analysis 👍🙏
Good job. Apt Arome is also on point. God's word is our standard no matter who is involved
Good job George! Keep being real, unbiased and Word-focused.
Bros, majority of people in Nigeria don't like the truth that's why we are were we are today. Whoever that is the president of Nigeria simply replicate the mind and life of the majority. Keep up with your sincere work. I be your be biggest fan for life.
The example of the white blood cells, kidney and liver is just WOW! I had kidney issues that the Lord healed me from, so that example really really hits home for me. Thank you for this post General George!!
“General” - naaaaa. Just George
From the intro, Paul with stood Peter. When Peter was making a mistake in the public. Galatians 2. from verses 11.
Saying we should only pray to God when our fathers are making mistakes, biblically is wrong. Much love to the body of Christ.
Thank you
It's so sad to see the four-fold ministry being explained like this.
Without any controversy, thank God for the likes of Dr Damina that has helped to explain some of these biblical concepts that many are struggling to.
When has it reduced to 4 fold sir?
Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors, Evangelist....I know of 5 fold from my Bible ooo... When did we reduce it again ?
Leave him
No matter the intensity of the onslaught of deception and false prophets, Christianity cannot be decimated, ever.
CHRIST IS THE BUILDER OF HIS CHURCH, the gates of hell cannot prevail against it.
The gates of hell have already prevailed in some countries.
The kingdom of God suffereth violence. No be joke
Understanding is very important for some of us in this generation. Stay bless.
Hmm! That Bishop okonkwo's answer is something else. A true born again do not sin because he has forsaken the devil, the world and the flesh and is given to righteousness. So, we must be prfect as our heavenly father is. God bless you for your works of observation.
I totally agree with Pastor Ogbueli about the forums where pastors can reach each other but knowing how some prophets think they are top prophets in Africa ….
I was in the meeting when Rev David Ogbueli my Spiritual Father made this statement..
Arome is someone I love and look up to.. God bless him
George your analysis is balanced and unbiased. Facts over Sentiments.
When the Apostle said I can't sleep when I see such was an expression, A figurative expression. He meant to say i am trouble when I see these things, I am seriously restless, am trouble unless I can respond or make correction on the things people say or how they contradict the scriptures.
Great Job George
Thank sir!❤
there is only one Lord on this platform, JESUS period
The main issue is doctrinal. For many years, most of these fathers in the faith have been controlling and manipulating people with a wrong doctrine. Most of these Pastors know each other personally and there’s a breaking out of an agenda that has held church members in bondage and the fact that this is happening there’s a reaction amongst them. No one is a defender of the faith except the one who preaches the truth because the word of God itself is full proof of what is true and what is deceptive. So anyone who will come out and say we all play different roles in the body doesn’t know what the scriptures teach. All functions and expressions in the body of Christ have one goal and that is ”for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;“
Ephesians 4:12-14 KJV
Great analysis. All confusion comes from the fact that men of God have taken up positions of "God over men"
Bless you ❤❤❤
The issue of placing too much emphasis on men of God is that we don't see the men anymore. Like the TB Joshua matter, people were comparing Joshua to Jesus: Jesus was called Beelzebub etc. They forgot about Peter who tried to fight back. Also the Bible says we will suffer and be persecuted: fighting it is benign to me. And I wasn't there when God called these men, I'm not spending my life trying to prove or disprove said calling, I'm searching for God instead.
Pastor David knows what he's saying.
He's right we must know the place of one another and speak with wisdom to each other.
You are right, The 5 fold ministry all work together to perfect the saints but their functions are not the same. The role they play are not the same.. the role of an apostle to the body isn't same either the Teacher or the Pastor.
Typing with a phone is much more easy bro
Their are men with so much impact and results.
Thanks so much sir!
Good evening Brg. Missing your dance a lot
May God help us and all his servants in Jesus name 🙏
I always like your videos before I even watch them.😂😂😂
I saw this video of the man talking about the Pastors that have been divorced and married again. Him saying this was OK is wrong. God ( His Word) alone should be our example and focus.
I'm very simple. I see "pastor Abel Damina", I click 😂😂
Response to the interview with ps about divorce- just because some of our ministers divorced does not mean we should build on that. We don’t condemn them but we know nobody sets out to get married with the hope to divorce. Please let’s not glorify what is not God’s will just because we want to feel good about it.
😂😂😂 Odumeje's part. It was really a comic relief
Just because they built great ministry doesn’t mean at the dispensation when their works is tried by fire, it would remain
1cor 3:13-16
Good job, bruv
I just subscribed, this is timely. Well done
I love you George because you real about all matte😅😂🎉❤❤
We love you Georges . Facts only facts😁😁😁
The Bible says God hates divorce and that's period. I wonder why anyone would want to embrace and even defend what the Bible says God hate. People should follow God and not men o. A lot of people will be disappointed at last for their sheepish followership of man. The concept of discipleship is all about men following Jesus through the lives of other men that are also following. You keep following as long as you can clearly see Christ through them(which means you as a person can also recognize Christ for yourself); immediately the vision gets blurry, you are expected to keep off. Remember, there is only one Lord!
God hates divorce as He hates any other sins. Yet He embraces divorcees that are willing to return back to Him through Jesus Christ. Being a divorcee does not categorically mark-you out as a permanent sinner who is not worthy of Christ's salvation.
So, God embrace sinners for them to remain in sin?
That is not period stop deceiving people. There are grounds for divorce in the bible and adultery is just one.
If you want to be schooled let me know.
Read Matthew 5:31-32 regarding what the Lord Jesus Christ taught about divorce. He said a man could divorce his wife if she's unfaithful to him and that's the only condition He gave for divorce. But unfortunately nowadays most men have extra marital affairs, divorce their faithful wives and go on to marry their mistresses. Those are the kinds of remarriages that the Lord Jesus Christ calls adulterous.
@@mushimbwakafuta4083 Yes you are right, but that's as long as he or she is willing to remind unmarried. Note in that verse 32 that the one who married him or her that's divorced has committed adultery. You can also check 1Cor 7:11 and see that part of the condition is to remain unmarried. Note that the act of testing one, two, three wives and keep changing them until you find your match is unscriptural and God can never approve of that no matter who practice it. Bible has a standard for marriage. Seek the face of God before you go ahead and let God be the one leading you, if that's the case, you can't ever get it wrong. However, if your believe it to married who YOU like and not whom GOD gives; expect unreconcilable challenges in the marriage.
Jesus has his own remnant that sustain the church ...Jesus has the criterion!!
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Facts over sentiment ❤
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Thank you so much 🫡
No man is right 100% of the time and no man is wrong 100% of the time because we ALL know and prophesy IN PART; none of us knows everything - 1 Cor. 13:9.
Only God is omniscient.
When God hated sin, God solved the problem of Sin
God hate Divorce, God solved the Problem of Divorce, - Jesus The Word of God is the Solution, and common sense
Read Matthew 5:31-32 on what the Lord Jesus Christ taught about divorce. So what He said about men being allowed to divorce their wives only if they become unfaithful to them still stands.
This is depth from Dr David.
I don’t see how you can fight someone who is for sound doctrine
Listen to Abel Damina is actually making me think 🤔🤔🤔. Gathering of fathers
George this is your ministry........you are anointed to do this
I can’t say that of myself. Let’s say I just do this as a concerned Christian
If one divorce he and she should remain on married…but if you forgive yourselves with plans not to hurt each..then you both can move on happily. I think If people take out time to understand each other (not to make the other live for you) and focus on what is best for the common good of all…treat the other as you treat your own self…I believe marriages and homes will fare better. This is so because there are no perfect individuals and no perfect marriage by extension
People should really just read their Bibles and meditate on it daily. Christ was very clear.
John 8:31-32
So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
Nice work George...keep up the good work
before it is not yet a business but now it becomes business
The Unity in the body of christ pastor Femi talked about, it's like they've forgotten so soon that so many pastors saw Idahosa as false and materialistic, many even Kumuyi didn't come close.. As regards the issue of divorce Christ is still the standard, in as much as I love Olumide Emmanuel so much I disgree with him on that fact siting Joyce mayer and copeland.
Recently Joyce mayer got a tattoo and was justifying it.
Another observation and something I actually find disturbing is Pastor Chris validating Ulbert Angel, Lovy, Passion Java alot of people will actually see them as true men of God because of their relationship with Pastor Chris
Kenneth Copeland got born again after his third marriage to Gloria Copeland.
They both got saved a few years after they were married.
Let them know- facts over fiction, sense over sentiments.
Forum include CAN, PFN, and the other PFN.
The primary defense of every Christian is the Holy Spirit, in partnership with the word of God.
Thank God George is not a hypocrite like Daddy Freeze
Daddy freeze is not born again,, I wonder who is even listening to him
Ur sênse dey upside down
@@richardadeshina2958 u dzat have his sense up stairs.. Un decerning and wicked generation
Daddy freez is not even a Christian
The body of Christ need to be well feed. Let Christ be preached and we will be okay, but let no one preach to us another gospel. Let no one count sins
There is love when the focus is Jesus but no more love when focus becomes money.
Today.s men of God focus on how to gain more money through people and it is really difficult to advise them when they are doing wrong because they do not care about Jesus but care about the impact in their congregation
Pastor Arone said it all, follow God, dont read mens life as a page, read the Bible..
God hates divorce but it is not sin.
Anything God hate is called iniquity, and iniquity is also called sin...so divorce is a sin
Divorce and stay alone. If you remarry, it is adultery, therefore it is sin.
The Bible cannot be broken. Simply because they divorced and remarried does not mean they are in the will of God. Jesus said they will say, I cast out demons in your name but He will say to them I do not know you. Stay in the word of God.
Hope it includes not only abel dramina, but Odumeje himself 😂😂
George!!!
What are you writing?
What I will say
I think he is writing commenter's names.
@@BeingRealGeorge😂😂
@@mercyikhena7352😂😂😂
He's writing names of those making noise in class.
The easiest way to fish out a false teacher is when you see a man divorcing his wife….you can't be a man of God and you don't understand marriage… Apostle Paul said marriage is a picture of how Christ married the church…and Christ is faithful to us Christians..a man must be faithful to his wife that shows that he understands the gospel of Jesus Christ
Chrisit is perfect, man is imperfect. Thats why moses allowed for divorce certificate to be given.
But we follow him though we can be perfected now...men and women are perfected in Christ.…in marriage and those who are gifted with singleness still are perfect in the lord because a true believer is married to jesus Christ.
Men make mistakes. Samson was anointed, Solomon, David the friend of God killed his friend to cover up his affair. Abraham slept with his wife's maid even when God said Sarah will conceive: why didn't he ask God again, he was also a prophet right?? The calling doesn't make them less human. Thomas and Peter ate, slept and walked with Jesus Himself but we're still themselves.
Do remember the prophet micaiah 1 kings 22:10-28 but in vs 24 zedekiah walked up to Micaiah and slapped him when vs19-23 indicated he was speaking right. I’m so happy Jehoshaphat had sense to ask for a prophet.
George, take for example Paul trying to explain his doctrine to the rest of the apostles before getting their right hand of salute/support/endorsement.
The pastor talking about divorced and 60 years of marriage were they pastors then. If yes how old are they now and how old their ministries???
What We need to know is that man is not God that He can not make an erro and God is not a man to make any erro, everyone is a man or woman before they come to a realise and Be called a man of God or woman of God , so erro is inevitable to a man or any woman who is saving God. and there is no where in the Bible where it states that only those with a biger number of people must correct others, correction can come from anyone whom God has given the Burden to speak about it. and correcting every erro you see does not make someone all perfect or that He can not be aslo in erro and be correct. But please my request is that let the leaders of different denominations know how to adress others . 1) by coming out and mention the names without fear just as paul mention peters' hypocrisy in the church. & 2) let the leaders be able to communicate in privacy and correct one another without restrictions cause its because of this that mamy clergy men tend to adress issues online. and this does not help christions in the growth of there faith but rather distroys it completely and you will find many believers not growing in their faith and kingdom matters. lets stop the african mentality of highrucking everything and no corrections to father , no no no. things of God dont depend on experiences only but more on revelation. please let our african clergy men and women stop all these fights especialy online because there are actualy not buiding but distroying and they must remember that one day they will be answerable to God. let them lead by love and love is all that difine God.
Let’s stop using emotionalism to embrace everything.
As much as I want peace and unity, with so called servants of God no more aligned to God, we sadly cannot have unity.
Look at the quality of servants of God in that video of Myles Munroe. Daddy Idahosa, Rev Guti. Their lives and moral standards were in unity before they could be in unity as servants of God.
As long as we remain united in one God, Jesus, that’s when true unity can be seen
The responsible one would meet. Odumeje is a clown at best a jester.
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” - Matthew 5:32, NIV
They did not like Elisha, , Jeremiah, Daniel & Paul and yes, Yahusha! And Yahusha told us if they(??men of God profiting on the people) did not like him, they will not like us
There's balance in your presentation of issues. Note that this is the only way you stay relevant for long in this your calling. Jide nke i ji.
This is no calling ☝️
My people, read your scriptures. These people are not of the body of Christ. They are all simply businessmen fighting to protect their businesses.
Our beloved Osinachi would have been alive if not because of following the letter and not the Spirit, died in the name of obeying the letter forgetting about the state of the heart. It is the hardness of the heart that causes all troubles. Divorce, money mongering etc are the symptoms. Israel divorced God sereval times because of the state of the heart. If one is hardened and divorce is the sign of the heat. All sins are sins. We make noise on divorce and ignore other matters. Heart is the issue.
They can have a forum were they debate...
Nathan talked to David
Olumide Emmanuel should get out of the ministry. God had left him and he does not know. Pastors 23:29 who divorced and remarried are living for themselves and not for God. If you have a big ministry does not mean God is with you. The word of God cannot be broken.
For those of you who hate me with passion, thank you for being here 😂
I don't know why someone will choose to do the work of the HOLY SPIRIT. For the HOLY SPIRIT to use a man to correct doesn't mean its the man that correct and its his job. The HOLY SPIRIT can use anyone and same way EVIL SPIRIT can use a pastor to seem as if he is correcting but in the SPIRIT destroying. So how do you know who is of the HOLY SPIRIT and is not, answer is LOVE, you know if the person has LOVE in him or her. 1 Corinthians 13:1-4
Why do these pastors prioritise endorsing or degrading each other higher than preaching the word of God? Is it because they lack the knowledge of who God is and what He requires of those He called to be His witness?
It’s a lie Christ is not divided
BRG,I am coming for your diary 🤭
It’s almost full sef. Abeg don’t come o… too many secrets inside I have not dealt with 😉
120 people, na cult be that. Make we dey get sense oh!
Seriously,when I saw this Dr Ogbueli's video,I was concerned.It's kind of equivocal.
Having a Prophets'/Pastors' forum? It would eventually become an 'association' and many bad things would be buried underneath. The freedom to say the truth would be lost. And I think Apostle Arome Osayi personally would not like the idea.
It looks like Dr Ogbueli is trying to keep a good record simultaneously on two opposite sides.
We are in a new day where evil is right and good is bad. We are in a time when you can record with your phone. Sexual abuse is rampant
What are they saying. Jesus was blunt so let’s read Matthew 12 aff god again.
Yes Arome is right 2 believers divorce is not the option. We is it in the Bible
He was not a Christian when he was married in the past. This man is misleading the ppl to cover himself
You are sipping tea or coffee, bad boy 'RealGeorge'.
Our pattern is Christ and not men
Yes, pastor David. More need to set things straight wrong is now the new right and the Kabul of darkness prophet it taking people to hell with sweet lies. You go ahead Apostle Arome
Being Real George, the enemy pastor talk about is the devil the brethren is the church family
I know 😎. When I ask questions like this is to know what people are thinking
George you be Jehovah witness(JW) @@BeingRealGeorge
It means Kenneth copland has a problem, olimide is funny man
Dr D is spoiling the church business and the beneficiaries are crying. The bottomline No more tea drinking with God or Riding Range Rover in Heaven Too much tithe from the poor while while the pastor exhibits lavish lifestyle. No more of those and thanks to Dr Damina.
Same issue with Joyce Meyers. She was not a believer before Dave
I wonder when "Apostle" Arome Osayi will correct "Apostle" Joshua Selman on his statements
1. Not everything in the Bible is the word of God
2. Some things Paul wrote are wrong.
I really wonder if corruption has caught up with the ministry of correction 🥱
Anyway, there're no more Apostles today. Anyone claiming that office is a fraud, liar and deceiver.
He didn’t say not everything in the Bible is the word of God. I know the message you’re talking about- The Spirit of Revelation.
What he said was that the Bible should not be read in isolation without the help of the Holy Spirit, because it was compiled and translated by men over time, and as a result some errors could have been introduced in the process. What he said was that the essence of scripture is to reveal God and this can only happen when the Holy Spirit opens it up to you. You can go back and listen to the message again.
Let’s be careful how we quote people especially men of God.
@@chinazooforjigha-dim7936 "Not every word written here is the word of God"
Selman doesn't understand what the word of God is.
"The word of God is any part in this Bible that is able to give you Spirit and life" ~Selman
They are scriptures because they are inspired by God. Men wrote it, yes but not by their own will. Jesus often quoted the old testament prophets. The Apostles did the same. None of them ever gave the slightest hint that, "not everything in the scriptures is the word of God" . Yet, we should believe Joshua Selman's gynastics which twists the scriptures to say that the word of God is the part that gives you life? He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
There are descriptive and prescriptive texts in the scriptures and they are all inspired.
In the same Clip, he said some things Paul said are wrong according to the character of God's word.
"wow!!" how deeeep!!! Even Peter, John, John and the other Apostles didn't know this. The early church didn't know this either. Selman is so deep.
Unfortunately the early church missed out on this putrid revelation. Paul wrong? Hmmmm...
Perhaps you should go back and listen to the clip again.
Ppl don’t like the truth, no, no they like sugar coated lies
What is George always writing when he’s showing the videos??🤦🏿♂️
A lot of our Pastors are going to end up in hell.
That pst. Olumide to refer to those people as pillars of the faith makes me suspect his discernment and, ultimately, his doctrine as a Christian.
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Mark 10:4-9
New International Version
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”
5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
George always greeting those who hate him and letting them know he knows they're watching him... 😂
I love the consistency of that hehehehe
They are my top fans 🫡
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Pray for your enemies, they are prospective super friends ✌️
@@splendid9529that’s the spirit
False teachings - trinity, infant baptism, tithing, not to divorce, fathers of faith so big that you can not correct them, usage of the cross, Christmas et al.
Weldone boss. Always seperating the fats from the oil. More grease to your elbows 💪🏽🫡
Paul talked to Peter
Divorce is not a sin. It cannot be because God does not legislate sin, He does not tell people how to do sin so that sin will be just. Divorce is not desirable but it is anticipated amongst mankind, being that it is impossible for people in a fallen state, whose hearts are often deceptive, dishonest, to fully get along.
The divorce of Malachi, among the priests, had to do with unfaithfulness, a taking advantage of in a callous way, which is what the 'violence' referred to. There was injustice.
Divorce was not introduced in Israel by Moses any more than sleeping at night was! Moses merely legislated the most honourable way to do it; there was some sort of an investigation, likely some mefiation, counselling, and the divorce paper stated the divorce reason and any fault on the part of the woman. Just like cutting off a member of one's body or the cutting off that the vinedresser does, no such cutting is desirable but the fact is, it is often expedient, even necessary! The Father of Jesus Christ does not make mistakes. Restoring order is often painful; Jesus Christ knew the pain of being cut off from His Fathet on the cross. Was that a divorce? When a sinner is cut off from God, is that a divorce?
Divorce happens because terms, conditions, hopes, and aspirations are breached, sometimes inconsolably, irreparably. Whether the divorce happens in a law court (which the Levites oversaw in the Israeli culture) or privately within a home, unannounced, discreet, it is the same thing, only that one type is more honest, allows for healing, and contains the spread of poison and possible pollution, toxicity. That's what cutting off a diseased branch can achieve.
There are many things God hates. Some of them are outrightly sin or a perversion. God does not legislate any sin or perversion. God so hated the violence and corruption in the days of Noah that He drowned all land creatures, save Noah and his family. God so hated Adam's sin that He drove him from Eden and condemned that creation. God hates unjust weights but does not kill the guilty instantly.
God so hated Israel's constant rebellion that God divorced them publicly and wrote them a certificate, His very prescription! God did something the nation understood.
Just like men die, disagreements and divorce will continue until the restoration of all things.
When asked about a particular divorce practice, the Lord Jesus referred to what Moses said; He did not counter Moses as to nullify existing order; that would be lawless. He was right to say we are hard hearted and that before sin made hearts hard, 'it was not so'. The trouble is, NOBODY knows how the beginning was; Adam could not transmit the memory. For us to be having this conversation betrays our condition, born under sin- hard hearted. Nothing on earth today is how it was in the beginning. It may be sheer pretence, or pride for anyone subject to physical death to aver he knows how things were at the beginning or that he, or we, mankind, is able to come into that experience.
What we must strive for is to uphold righteousness and justice and to pursue peace with all men, especially the brethren and family members. This will yield favourable results sometimes- hopefully, more times, and at other times, lead to a scattering, a putting apart. In both cases, the Lordship of Jesus is intact and His grace may go with all the parties. Either may be the better option; one's conduct through the process, in respecting God's precepts and upholding due order, and the fruit that follows is all we have to go on and judge by. Selah.