Oppenheimer (2023) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Oppenheimer (2023)
Albert? When I came to you with those calculations, we thought we might start a chain reaction that would destroy the entire world...
I remember it well. What of it?
I believe we did.
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7 Oscars!
Incredible Oscar Wins 👍
Well deserved wins, 2023 was a competitive year and honestly a lot of the nominees were good picks, but Oppenheimer I think was the best of them.
So thrilled Cillian’s performance was recognised particularly given how far his come as an actor working with Christopher Nolan whose Best Director win was also very well deserved, it’s among the very best of his work!
Deserve it! The Best Nolan Movie for a long time.
My guy Downey finally won one! I'm so glad.
@@EdmanXERO amazing achievement how he turned his life around after his addiction and legal troubles to becoming a great actor with a deserving Academy Award win, his performance as Strauss was intense!
I loved when somebody on the internet asked "Is there a post-credit scene?" And the answer was: "You are living in it.". Crazy.
A chain reaction that destroyed the world.
i see what you did there. @@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@user-yz1id7wc7qyou miss the point of what they are saying
bro...@user-yz1id7wc7q
“You best start believing in ghost stories: you’re in one!”
"Is it possible they were talking about something more.... important?" is such a savage roast
Every single politician ever : no that is not possible! I'm the center of the universe!
That definitely got Strauss good, you can see the fury in his eyes. Marvelous acting by RDJ.
To a narcissist? Quite possibly the worst possible roast.
I love how he opens the door and walks out immediately, doesn't even give Strauss a moment to react.
That scene in the auditorium with everyone clapping, the odd sound design paired with that imagery is etched into my mind to this day. In that moment you can really see how haunted he is by what's happened. It left most in the theatre pretty speechless
When you asked Profeesor Feynman "Where are your glasses?" (about 30 minutes in, just before the blast), he would have said (as he explained many years later) that he knew the car windscreen would block all harmful UV rays and, as long as he closed his eyes for the flash, he'd be fine. He was an exceptionally clever man - when asked to help with the investigation into the Challenger shuttle disaster, he let the 'experts' argue amongst themslves for a while and then dropped a small version of the O ring seal whose failure had caused the disaster into a jug of ice and water, shutting everyone up when the seal cracked immediately. It was a "I rest my case" moment.
Feynman was a different sort of genius, some called him a magician because know no one knew how he did things. He was also a trickster, he got bored at Los Alamos and for fun wondered if he could access other scientists filing cabinets, he entered the same six figure number into the rolling locks, the number was Pi, 22 over 7 to 6 digits and he opened a number and then left cryptic notes inside. It freaked people out, they thought they had a spy! They did, it was Klaus Fuchs!
A movie about Feynman's life is on my wish list. Your's was a great comment.
You can also hear him playing the bongos at the celebration party.
I rather like his story of how he, according to himself, bluffed his way through a lot of things and got lucky. For instance, he was sent to Hanford (I think it was?) to advise on the uranium enrichment setup, and the engineers showed him these factory-scale schematics of pipes, valves, pumps, flows and tanks and argued how it was all safe, redundant and clever. Feynman, not knowing anything about industrial-scale engineering for chemical plants, figured he’d need to ask something just to earn his paycheck, so he pointed to a random thing in the schematic, and asked “what about this?”. The engineers looked down at the plans then up at him, shocked and contrite: “You’re right, dr Feynman! We hadn’t caught that! Thank you!” Feynman wasn’t sure what he’d even pointed at.
Feynman was so clever in fact that he _wasn't_ "Professor" Feynman at this point, by quite a number of years - they recruited him to the Manhattan Project before he'd even finished his post-graduate studies, let alone become a professor.
And much as i'm a Feynman fan BTW, i'm an even bigger fan of the truth :). It was the "experts" (as you put it) that discovered the o-ring issue in the first place (engineers from the NASA subcontractor that built the booster rocket even suggested _before the launch_ that the forecasted cold weather could be a problem and were overruled by their management) but after looking at the evidence (some of which - fun fact - was indirectly supplied by the shuttle astronaut Sally Ride, who was _also_ on the commission and anonymously leaked the results of tests on the o-rings to another member), Feynman independently came to the same conclusion and used his position as a famous scientist to provide, in his own inimitable style, that simple, incisive public demonstration of the issue (i.e. contrary to your implication, he didn't come up with the solution all by himself nor was everyone else involved incompetent nor was the demonstration itself "off the cuff").
32:02 - I like how he said the joke about bombs and then after realized it was an accidental pun with the look up. haha
Yo I was literally waiting for someone to notice😂😂
"This guy is just droppin' bombs" - (sideways look to confirm irony of that statement)
At 17:20 "What the hell is that?" Well, that was the first nuclear reactor which Enrico Fermi built under the grandstands at the football field at the University of Chicago of course.
Honestly that’s such a wild fact. It’s just a big concrete block
@@cassu6 No, a lot of it was wood. Look up Fermi and it links to "Chicago Pile 1."
That ending scene is so damn effective. Cillian Murphy portrayed a million emotions with his eyes while doing absolutely nothing. That stare alone should get him an Oscar today.
Also, the use of the feet stamping to represent horror and anxiety is a masterstroke. The scene in the auditorium is unbelievably effective at conveying such a complex mixture of negative emotions.
👎 on mentioning a last scene...
If anything, I feel like the movie should’ve ended with him saying the ‘I am become death.’ quote. I was waiting for him to say that line. But not how the movie had him say it in an intimate scene with another woman. lol.
@@Kayoss13212would’ve been so corny
@@Kayoss13212 that would have been cheesy as hell and too on the nose
“When you invent the ship, you invent the shipwreck…” - Paul Virilio. Brilliant movie! Glad you enjoyed it. 2nd watch helps flesh out more of the concepts.
32:09 - This is the greatest moment in your entire library of reaction videos.
I was fortunate enough to catch a screening of this in 70mm IMAX while on a work trip in Nashville. The countdown to the detonation was so indescribably tense in the theater. To me, it was more about the death of the old world, the birth of the nuclear world, and all the sobering horror that came with it.
I watched this at home and my heart rate must've been 200 during that scene, it was one of the most intense scenes I've ever seen in a movie.
The gym celebration scene really shows how he felt at that moment. How no one was safe from what they created. I love the silence and the over exposure effect.
And I like how those are the auxiliary people of Los Alamos, not the scientists nor even the soldiers, and they were so “brainlessly” gun-ho about it.
I don't know why, but one of my favourite scene in the movie is when Oppenheimer is teaching is first class in Berkeley and you see it grow and grow. The concept of literally bringing to life a field of studies to an university is crazy to think about...what would be physics without quantum mechanics today ? Seeing it evolve in your class must be exciting !!
I can see that... Similarly for me, it was the "I know HIM" line and the idea that he was living working colleagues with Niels Bohr, Albert Einstein, and Heisenberg. Such beautiful intellectual energy going on around those times!
"What would be physics without quantum mechanics today?" IDK but you wouldn't have a computer like this. In the 80's we hit a brick wall in the continuing miniaturization of transistors, so Carver Mead figured out how to apply QM to it. Otherwise we'd be stuck with 286's.
@@Chrisratata Wow. Walter White has met some illustrious figures.
sameeee, i LOVE that scene
Robert Downey, Jr. just won his first Academy Award for portraying Lewis Strauss.
Really ?
@@lexkanyima2195yep
@@lexkanyima2195yes
@@lexkanyima2195 You thought he was lying?
"I believe we did"
maybe not today, not tomorrow, but possibly anytime in the future.
and now we are going through the cold war again, is a scary messege this movie.
"Damn, this guy is just dropping bombs!"
"... wait, what?" 🤣🤣👍👍
I saw Oppenheimer in theaters. I didn't expect it to be as compelling as it was.
Yeah me too!!
Saw it opening night and the cinema was packed!! Definitely one of the best theatre experiences I’ve had!
Murphy/Oppenheimers final words in the movie "I believe we did" are SOOOOO Haunting in the context of history... what they created and the fear it put on the whole planet, lingering still today and probably never stopping.
"I'm not sure, I think The Bomb was used in WWII at some point..." -- Yes. The last part.
Precisely why some criticized this film for its muted, glancing portrayal of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Young folks' loosening grasp of 20th century history could use a visual refresher.
@@lanolinlightjust watch Nuit & Brouillard or Hiroshima, my love
It’s definitely fair to criticize the movie for that, but I think it’s a much bigger indictment of the US education system, or more accurately, the crippling budget cuts, censorship, and revisionism of the education system
@@lanolinlightIf you need to see humans vaporized, burned horrifically and suffering the effects of radiation poisoning to understand how terrible and devastating the near instant death of 100’s of thousands of people something is probably wrong with you.
@@joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo5330nothing to do with budget cuts, they use the same text books for 20 years. It has to do with the school systems in general putting preference on indoctrination over actual schooling. All the weirdo social outcasts from 10 years ago are now the teachers, which is scary.
I asked my son if he wanted to come with me to a 70mm screening letting him know that the movie is dialogue heavy. I'm so glad he said yes and tagged along with me. He liked the movie and was in awe of how a movie with only dialogue can be good.
How old is he?
@@Chrisratata 16, very mature for his age.
During the Pacific testing during the Cold War sailors accounted seeing the bones in their hands while covering their eyes, which were closed; seeing the Xray of their own bodies in real time while not looking.
32:05 LOL your face after realizing the pun 😅
During the cold War there were 2 major TV movies about nuclear war. In the USA we had "The Day After," which you can find on RUclips. The UK had "Threads" which is currently streaming on Shudder. Strongly recommend both if you want an idea of the fear we lived in. We went about our lives, sure, but in the back of out minds the threat was there.
Great recommendations!
I don't feel any different. There were only a few years of respite.
I would add that Threads does much, much, more in 2 hours than The Day After does in 4. Threads makes the other movie unnecessary. Threads used to be on youtube not long ago. It's a shame if it's gone, but inevitable if a streaming service has it.
Other great cold war movies (not all nuclear) are Dr Strangelove (serio-comedy but technically accurate), Fail Safe (serious and great, but nothing in it is technically accurate), The Bedford Incident, Ice Station Zebra (by Alistair MacClean the master of adventure), On the Beach, Miracle Mile, Ladybug Ladybug (nuclear war from the POV of children, and also British), One, Two, Three (a great pure comedy with James Cagney), and The Big Lift (the only true story here, about the cold war's early days).
32:04 tbr realizing he accidentally just killed it 🤣🤣
"damn this guy's dropping bombs"
" Damn, this guy is just dropping bombs" 💀
It Has Won 7 Oscars Including Best Picture!
Some years back the TV series "Manhattan” did an excellent job covering this history. Well worth watching.
Agreed. It tickled me while watching "Oppenheimer" that Klaus Fuchs was played by the same actor that played the traitor in "Manhattan" (albeit a different, in that case fictional, character). And people say Christopher Nolan has no sense of humour :).
I thought I was the only one who noticed the same actors in both playing essentially a spy.@@anonymes2884
I first read about Bohr and Heisenberg in the Broadway play "Copenhagen." Bohr and Heisenberg are known as pioneers in quantum physics, more of mentor-student relationship (Bohr being the mentor), but their relationship was severed after a meeting in Copenhagen, where Bohr lived, in 1941. What has been said has been fiercely debated, but many say that they had the same arguments as Oppenheimer did in this movie. But many just are not sure what those arguments were.
thats the joy. he isnt a hard bargainer. He just wants to have fun with the life he has.
32:06 I loved it when you realized what you said. 😂
Schmitt, Mrs. Schmitt, I saw this movie in the theater, those 60-90 seconds of silence and seeing the fire from the explosion, was probably the scariest part of the scene for me.
32:04 hahaha probably my FAVORITE reaction moment EVER on this channel!!! on par with Sams moment in BLAST FROM THE PAST when Frasers Character sees his first black person.
Winner of 7 Oscars:
Best Picture
Best Director, Christopher Nolan
Best Actor, Cillian Murphy
Best Supporting Actor, Robert Downey Jr
Best Film Editing
Best Cinematography
Best Original Score.
29:07 Truman was a WWI veteran. An artillery commander. So he had seen and taken part in some incredibly brutal combat. He understood the human cost and significance of the decision he made when he made it. So it's not about "I get credit." It's more about having the conviction and fortitude to stand by the hard decisions made in such a war. Oppenheimer coming in moping about his sense of guilt when Truman shoulders the burden for what happened rubbed him the wrong way.
In his own words:
“Blood on his hands, dammit, he hasn’t half as much blood on his hands as I have. You just don’t go around bellyaching about it.”
Truman was a hardass and also understood, quite intimately, the cost of war and the price of securing victory over such a determined enemy.
This is the best movie I have ever seen. I saw it 5 times in the movies and the best IMAX moment I have ever been apart of is the Nuke scene. Greatest Film and one of the most important films ever made.
This film deserved every Academy Award it won. Nolan should have more than 2 Oscars, but at least he has finally won. Same as RDJ finally winning and it’s great Cillian Murphy won an Oscar as well. The cast is phenomenal, the writing and directing is impeccable as is the cinematography and score. Truly one of the best films of the century. I also loved Gary Oldman as Truman, he did an amazing job with such limited screen time. Also, Truman said to someone else regarding Oppenheimer’s quote of having blood on his hands as “I have more blood on my hands than he could imagine.” That seems to say that Truman also had mixed feelings about the situation, but being the president and knowing the bombings did in fact end WWII, he likely was able to process how the war ended a bit better than Oppenheimer as he had to give the go ahead after being informed what would happen once the bombs were dropped and what the effects would be for those who were alive afterwards and didn’t have an intimate involvement in the creation of the bombs. Great reactions guys, take care!
One thing that really helps to understand the movie's narrative is that the B&W scenes are the ones were the story is being told to Strauss's POV, i.e. his world is black and white, right and wrong, you are either on his team or his enemy. The color scenes are all associated with the ones where the story is being told from Oppenheimer's perspective.
Samantha's hair is everything in this video.
"Until someone else builds a bigger bomb." Dr. Seuss wrote a book about this concept for kids, called "The Butter Battle Book", as a warning. We had a copy in my school library when I was a little kid, prior to the Berlin wall coming down and the Soviet Union collapse.
This has to be the absolute newest movie that’s ever been viewed on the channel. It also might be the longest. Its also a momentous film. This episode feels like “TBR SCHMITT: THE MOVIE.”
One thing I love about the Ground Zero scene is the fact that, with the exception of Oppenheimer, no other character is the focus of the scene, it's solely fixed on the Gadget and the hands assembling it. With this and the soundtrack giving an ominous deep pulsing and faint electrical crackling, I think it's one of the best directed scenes of the entire film.
It's nice to round this masterpiece off by listening to the song "Enola Gay" by OMD.:
"Enola Gay, is mother proud of Little Boy today?
Aha, this kiss you give, it's never ever gonna fade away"
From the rush and joy of discovery to the absolute horror and dread of seeing what splitting an atom is capable of
Einstein traveled to Japan in 1923. He lectured in Kyoto, Tokyo… and Hiroshima.
Congratulations to Oppenheimer for 7 Academy Awards including Best Picture and Best Director and congratulations to Cillian Murphy for Best Actor. And Robert Downey Jr. for Best Supporting Actor.
You know it when i watch to many of your reviews. I forgot my pc was on Mute but still heard the Intro Music going thru my mind like it was playing ..
The good news is that the Intro music is really good! Nice and pleasant. 👍
Almost a decade ago there was a fairly good 2-season TV series about the Manhattan project called simply _Manhattan_ which is streaming on several platforms. It is more fictionalized in that most of the characters are composites of real people, and characters like Oppenheimer appear only briefly. But it dives deeper into the logistical difficulties, the conflicts over the approach to take, the paranoia over security, the fact that there were actually spies in Los Alamos, the role of women (both the female physicists and mathematicians, and the wives of the scientists, some of whom had professional qualifications in other fields they gave up to remain a family), etc.
In terms of story arc _Oppenheimer_ reminds me of _The Imitation Game_ : a brilliant scientist leads an effort to make a critical breakthrough that helps win WWII, there are arguments over exactly how that breakthrough should be employed, and after the war the scientist ends up distrusted by the government he served because of his personal life. The big difference being that the code-breaking at Bletchley Park remained an Official Secret that was illegal to discuss for decades so the importance of the people who did the work wasn't really known until the 1970s and later.
That ending is so powerful, it really does underline everything about the movie and Oppenheimer himself, a man that like the bomb he created was set to detonate.
To some extent, the existence of atomic weapons has created peace. It used to be normal for the major powers to invade neighbors and start wars just because they were stronger and ambitious. Large nations don't do that much any more just because of the fear of a major conflict going nuclear.
Thus, the name of the cold war. But Russia cannot be trusted, just like it couldn't then. People who don't know this history are uninformed and dangerous.
Yes, and if a democratic nation didn't do it first, then the inevitable logic is that a despot would have done it first. That would have been Russia some time during the 50's, and they would have done it in absolute secrecy. People can scare themselves by imagining nuclear war, but they can't even imagine the absolute hell of a world totally dominated by Stalinists, after a surprise nuclear attack on people who mostly would have had no knowledge of nuclear weapons. The Soviet Union would not have fallen because, after the war, they would not have needed such high defense expenditure, and they would have been subsidized by all the economies of the world. That hell could have continued indefinitely.
@@johnclawed Actually, just before WW2, Germany was in the lead in heavy water experiments etc. Then the war started and a veil of secrecy descended. The allies had no way of knowing that Hitler had terminated the project as unfeasible.
@@brandonflorida1092 Well like I said, it would have been Russia, not us and not Germany. But Germany didn't abandon the project early in the war, and not on their own either.
wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage
"In February 1943, a team of SOE-trained Norwegian commandos destroyed the production facility in Operation Gunnerside; this was followed by Allied bombing raids. The Germans ceased operations, and attempted to move the remaining heavy water to Germany. Norwegian resistance forces then sank the ferry carrying the heavy water, the SF Hydro, on Lake Tinn."
Everything including the sinking of that ferry was accurately portrayed in the movie Heroes of Telemark, and there was an episode of NOVA about the salvage of the sunken ferry. Testing proved that the barrels contained heavy water. I don't see how we could have known how much they already had transported to Germany.
the modern era is literally the most peaceful time in history ht only downside is that IF theres a war, it will be deadlier than any before, well if they use atomic bombs or major chemical weapons
Oppenheimer was unfortunately VERY incorrect with his stance against the H-Bomb. By keeping ONLY fission weapons (measured in Kilo tons), you would create an arms race, and unless you had hundreds of thousands of weapons, could you only achieve global destruction. You therefore create a situation where an atomic conflict could be deemed winnable by one side (which is what the late 40s, 50s, and early 60s were like, which was hell). However, once FUSION weapons like the H-Bomb were developed and deployed en masse (measured in Mega tons), by the late 60s, both sides had enough weapons to not only destroy the other side, but it would render the entire planet uninhabitable. MUTUAL ASSURED DESTRUCTION (MAD), is what brought the peace. Now, living under MAD during the cold war wasn't fun (I grew up next to Barksdale AFB, home of Strategic Air Command, 5th target, after washington, norad, NY, and LA). But until we have true global peace, we will have to continue living with MAD against Russia and China. However, this has indeed kept the peace believe it or not. The huge advances in EVERY global measurement of population, education, infrastructure, everything...is due to nuclear weapons keeping the peace since WW2. Yes there have been hundreds of thousands of deaths of militants in 70 years since WW2, but that pales in comparison of WW2 where 30-40 million soldiers died globally. And then there is WW1, and the 19th century had dozens of huge wars (very destructive based on population at the time), starting off with Napoleon who for all intents started the first true world war. Nuclear weapons make all out war between superpowers and their allies unthinkable, therefore they wont happen.
The 7 year war between England and France was the first true World War
The 70mm IMAX print of this film was ELEVEN MILES long. For shipment to theatres, it had to be divided into sections and reassembled when it reached its destination. It was an incredibly labor-intensive process and it broke down on a few occasions.
"For shipment to theatres, it had to be divided into sections and reassembled when it reached its destination."
Until the ubiquitous use of digital projectors, pretty much all feature films are/were delivered to theaters this way (in multiple reels that were spliced together into a larger reel). The "burn marks" in the upper corner of films marked when/where one reels of film ended and the next one began.
@@lestatdelcThe reels weren’t spliced together on earlier films. The burn marks were a signal to the projectionist to prepare to “switch over” from one projector to another.
@@TheTerryGene - Actually they were spliced together in earlier films (1970s onward). Usually into two reels with an auto start between twin projectors.
@@lestatdelc Thanks for the clarification. I was a pre-70’s kid dating back to the 50’s. Technology changes!😉
I've seen a lot of couples on this site react to movies, music, comedy etc... You two are among the most intelligent. And you have a healthy marriage, so obviously. You lean into each other physically while watching.... You listen to each other.... And make each other think, and above all, smile and laugh. It is a great combination. I've watched many of your reactions... And they are all the same that way. A truly lucky couple to have found true love like that. And I watched your Q&A vid.... Found true love in the 8th Grade? WTF? I know you didn't know it at the time, but it still counts! Some people are just luckier than others.... Just sayin', ha ha ha! Keep up the good work!
Doing what they do best and enjoying it while arm in arm since the beginning of the channel is Truly commendable! Beautiful! Inspiring! ❤
I remember seeing this movie (Oppenheimer) in cinema (theaters) twice over the last summer, it was one of the most cinematic experiences I’ve ever seen, I’ve also been hoping for you guys to react to Oppenheimer, and now I’m always hoping you guys to watch Better Call Saul, Mr. Robot, Stranger Things, The Queen’s Gambit, Schindler’s List, and Casablanca at some point
I’ve seen Tenet twice, once at home and then again in an IMAX reissue. It’s to me, one of his best works
It's easily his weakest script, but I like the movie way more than Inception. I love how it makes use of little-known industrial lore that's everywhere but we never think about
Josh Hartnett's character is Ernest Lawrence, for whom the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is named. As of today, the LLNL is also the hottest place in the universe (edit: the hottest artificially created place) because it has the National Ignition Facility in it. 500 terawatts of light focused on a single point.
Fun Fact: In order to film the Trinity test in a proper way, Christopher Nolan enriched uranium in his basement for the last 30 years
xD
LOL...but don't joke...!
Every award won for this movie was rightly deserved. This is one of the best piece of work by Christopher Nolan.
He's going to Germany to study under Olivia Newton-John's grandfather - - Max Born. So weird to think about that.
23:33 They weren't exposed too much radiation considering the engineering of the bombs core.When the radioactive material was incased it proved to not to be a radiation hazard unless breached through a hole, explosion, sudden drop (etc.). If they were exposed to plutonium or uranium at the levels they would have for the few minutes it would pose no effect.
I love watching your movie reactions, you two have such great chemistry. You both seem very smart to follow this movie, I watched it once in the theatre and was somewhat confused with all the names of characters. Great movie review!
And now you can cheer with the rest of us when Oppenheimer sweeps the Oscars tonight. All the technicals, along with Christopher Nolan, Robert Downey Jr., and Cillian Murphy are all going to win bar a shocking upset. Fun fact: Casey Affleck, Gary Oldman, Rami Malek--three consecutive best actor winners, and their parts add up to all of 20 minutes in the film. Only Nolan could assemble a cast like that.
Nobody cares about that lol.
@@Jiff321quite a few people do but ok
@@Jiff321 Oh shut up lol
Nothing fun about that.
Now Christopher Nolan AND Cillian Murphy are finally Oscar winners ❤
...and Robert Downey, Jr.
@@Stogie2112ah yes, of course!
This movie alone was incredible but having seen it twice in IMAX was phenomenal.....
The acting, the score, the story and of course the efx was almost to much for the senses.
One of the few times there was complete silence at the end of a movie where everyone was astonished and raking in what they just saw.
Happened again at the second showing.
One of the best movies I've ever seen, experienced.....
I didn't expect a biopic based on historical fact to have "twists" that turned into satisfying moments. But the way everything came together in the final 30 minutes or so was so satisfying. The scientist who testified against Strauss came out of nowhere, then Kitty stands to the prosecutor like a badass, then we finally see that the conversation between Einstein and Oppenheimer wasn't even about Strauss...and even the final line, as ominous as it is, felt like genius.
What I've caught in repeated viewings is the visions Oppenheimer was seeing in the beginning compared to the end. At the beginning, the were visions of the unknown, from black holes and stars to abstract scientific thought. At the end, the visions became the known: arms races, launching missiles, mushroom clouds and the end of the world.
From wonder to terror. Excellent touch!
Congrats Christopher Nolan on FINALLY hearing your name called.
John Jacob Oppenheimer Schmitt. His reaction is my reaction too. Whenever he posts a video, the people always comment, THERE GOES JOHN JACOB OPPENHEIMER SCHMITT! TA-DA-DA, DA, DA, DA-DA-DA, DA-DA, DA!
Here's what I understand about David Hill's testimony against Lewis Strauss (I'm not taking a dog in this fight, just going with what I have read):
I think it goes back to Strauss' speech in 1949, where Strauss opposed shipping radioisotopes to Norway. That same year, the Soviets conducted their first hydrogen bomb test, which caught many off-guard, since many thought the Soviets needed more time. Strauss felt like the Soviets wouldn't be persuaded by moral arguments, and were determined to build their weapons no matter what.
In 1953, Hill was the chairman of the FAS, Federation for American Scientists. He criticized Strauss' speech, after many in the scientific community considered shipping the radioisotopes to be beneficial. Hill cited this as well as a "personal vindictiveness" for Strauss as his reasons for testifying. He apparently knew about Oppenheimer's clearance hearing, although how much he knew and how he found out about Strauss' involvement, I still don't know. My guess is that the scientific community knew of their rivalry already, and pieced it together on their own. It wasn't just Hill that knew about the clearance revocation, but Hill was one who was willing to testify.
Strauss didn't help his own case, to be fair: he claimed he had more involvement in the development of the H-bomb than he actually did, and claimed he convinced President Truman to support it. Truman was so outraged by this and sent a letter to Clinton Anderson, a Senator from New Mexico, who was on the voting committee, which basically discredited Strauss' argument. Anderson and Strauss had a long-running feud, so Anderson asked to be on the committee to try to undermine Strauss' nomination. Anderson found help from another Senator, Gale W. McGee (Wyoming), who had jurisdiction over the confirmation hearings. Strauss attempted to pacify Truman, but was unsuccessful, and remained bitter at this rebuffing.
Strauss had a reputation for inflexibility. One of his colleagues on the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) said, "If you disagree with Lewis about anything, he assumes you're just a fool at first. But if you go on disagreeing with him, he concludes you must be a traitor." The AEC also upheld the ruling seen in the movie, 4-1, with Strauss writing the majority opinion, since he was chairman at the time. Public sentiment and the scientific community heavily criticized this.
Therefore, I think that the public and scientific community already knew many parts of the story anyway, so Hill didn't necessarily need an inside source. I could be wrong, but that's my guess.
As an anarcho-communist myself I loved that Oppenheimer tackles that fact that from prior to the start of the war, during the war, and after the war, the United States has always been far more willing to side with fascists than cooperate with anarchists/socialists/communist. In my experience, most films tackling the era, the topic of both the bomb, and the second world war always fail to address that fact.
I do love that the “politics” within the film, as a device for the narrative, show how the security state of the United States is made up almost entirely of paranoid little boys playing soldier, and reducing what they see as their opposition-the conflation of “Russian” with “Communists”-into black & white.
Would have been neat to hear more mention of the efforts to prevent the Nazis from acquiring the heavy water in Norway. And even more so about how we basically pushed the Japanese into a position where they wanted to surrender but could not because our demands were so overbearing and humiliating that they had to reject the initial offer-Creating the propaganda that “the Japanese will never surrender.” Speaking of propaganda, 🤔 lot of WWII films & shows, wonder why that is 🤨😂, (because most Americans can agree that the Nazis had to be defeated.)
I love the portrayal of that piece of garbage Truman as well.
I loved that Rami Malick didn’t seem to have any lines and then all of a sudden he delivers a whole testimony. I had to rewatch the film to realize Alex Wolff even had lines 😂 It’s crazy how many big actors were in the film.
Anyway, I think the greatest element of the film absolutely was the acting.
The only other WWII films I could/would recommend: (1) Downfall (2004) (2) Come And See (1985) (3) Jojo Rabbit (2019.)
Also, Tenet was pretty good, I was surprised that I liked it more than I had expected.
You're the definition of flogging a dead horse kid.
The Japanese weren't the surrendering type. Just look how the soldiers preferred to commit suicide rather than surrender.
Very few young people realize how many lives dropping those bombs saved. It’s fascinating actually.
American AND Japanese. And Truman would have been dragged out of the White House and hanged in the streets of DC by an angry mob if the public found out we had spent billions creating a weapon capable of ending the war overnight and invaded instead of using it. And Truman was right. History places the ultimate "blame" on him for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not Oppenheimer.
I mean, _zero_ people of _any_ age *know* how many lives it saved. But there's certainly speculation.
That’s very debatable.
One could argue that the Soviet entry, occupation of Manchuria and annihilation of the Kwantung army were as, if not more impactful for the surrender of Japan.
It is sometimes hard to remember that Einstein was born 'only' in 1879. His legacy in science is so massive and we have put him on a such a pedestal that it seems that he lived hundreds of years ago and still lives.
Definitely one of the films of the decade, if not the century!
I got the book it’s based upon “American Prometheus” for my Dad and his lent it to me, really keen to read and learn more about Oppenheimer’s life and scientific career!!
You guys have to see Tenet. And watch some Korean and Thai movies. There's a lot of hidden gems.
I was a reservist and I spent one year at White Sands Missile Range. I got to visit the Trinity Site.
I often sit and ponder what happens inside the heart of a dying star.
Kyoto was also the Vatican of Japan. very significant spiritual local. this was why it was removed from the target list.
In regards to radiation exposure at Los Alamos, Kyle Hill here on YT has a few great videos about extreme radiation exposure accidents that happened during the existence of the town as a nuclear weapon research site
Definitely do Tenet
you need to watch a making of of this! the effects really are all practical! its crazy and also super conviniet sometimes how they did some of them, like at 28:10 the vibrating background, they did with a photos of the background put on a projector, projected over the background itself so it matches perfectly and then vibrate the projector basically.... super creative!
they also had invent a new type of negative film for the black and white scenes because there simply was no IMAX capable(and sized) black and white film.
dont think anyone understood the gravity...meeting Niels Bohr, Hahn and Strassmann, Fermi, Claus Fuchs...all enormous giants in theoretical physics
Just for balance… I’m 72, my Father was a prisoner of war, captured by the Japanese in Singapore. Thousands of men were dying of disease, malnutrition, beatings and denial of medicine. My Father was about to die in this camp, when the first bomb went off in Hiroshima, there was no surrender, a week later the second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. The Japanese surrendered, the war ended, my Father survived, so I am here directly because of the bomb, and so is my 19 year old daughter at college in Chicago. I’m not a proponent of atomic bombs, it was tragic, but at that moment in history, it was critical and saved millions of lives on BOTH sides going forward. I really enjoy your reactions!
Good thing it wasn’t your Dad eh?
"Big bang, took and shook the world!"
All the best to Cillian Murphy this evening! (But I will also cry big fat tears if Paul Giamatti gets a surprise nod, love him!)
The big bang took and shook the world
Shot down the rising sun.
The end was begun and it hit everyone
When the chain reaction was done
🤘🤘🤘
March 9-10 1945
Operation Meetinghouse
General Curtis LeMay had his B29’s (325 bombers) destroy roughly 16 square miles of eastern Tokyo using napalm
Roughly 100,000-130,000 deaths
Over 1 million displaced
Not napalm but incendiary bombs. But the point is accurate, the strategic bombing of Japan was way more destructive than Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It's just now that the damage could be done with one bomber and one bomb.
@@asmrhead1560 incendiary bombs did they use?
@@vincentbergman4451napalm. Lol
Please check out Cillian in SUNSHINE :)
yes please
The scene with the breakdown of where should they drop the bomb on Japan was interesting. It seems hard to come by when you're digging for that part of the war history. The fact Oppenheimer said the government spots were too small to use it on was surprising.
Depending on who you ask now in Japan there's still a majority of Japanese even the old generation who have no idea why the Japanese Empire had it coming and the full scope of war crimes committed on the Asian Pacific countries. Only "some" are aware of the Chinese massacre that happened. History always needs our historical responsibility.
Don't forget to watch one of the best "war" movies ever... Kelly's Hero's!
With all kinds of actors, like Clint Eastwood, Donald Sutherland, Carroll O'Connor, Don Rickles, and more.
I'm currently reading the biography that this movie is based on.
Frank (Oppenheimer's brother) was a physicist as well. He followed Robert's steps because he idolized his brother.
Kitty didn't care much for her kids, and didn't pay that much attention to them (if any).and she had a drinking problem, in fact, most of the times she's on-screen she has a drink in her hand. Her daughter actually killed herself sadly. Her son is still alive and in his 80s.
Nolan said in an interview that he cast a lot of very well-known actors because that way all those characters would be easily recognizable and remembered whilst watching the movie. If the actors were unknown, it would have been harder for people to remember so many names and characters.
42:00 So many great scenes think Josh Hartnett stoles some scenes, Matt Damon and Kenneth Branagh. Loved when Oppenheimer was in a uniform. When he said "people won't understand what this can do until they see it" or fear it. That whole scene where they said Kyoto being so beautiful and it is like everything in Japan is beautiful
43:35 Exactly me as well I was like yeah I think I heard about the Manhattan project this is it?
I didn't notice until someone pointed it out to me: Bruce Banner and Tony Stark were competing for Best Supporting Actor this year!
At the same time in 1945 the Japanese were killing 250,000 per month.
EDIT: That's in China and Indonesia alone by the way, not including the rest of east Asia. 20 million Chinese (16 million civilians) and 4 million Indonesians (all civilians). Divide 24 million by an 8-year occupation and you get 250k per month. And they still occupied all that territory at the end of the war, unlike Germany which lost everything except Norway before they surrendered. (And speaking of Norway, watch "The Heroes of Telemark" with Kirk Douglas for the true story of the Norwegian commandos who blew up the German heavy water plant in Norway.)
The differences is German n Japanese admit their atrocities. Not like murica, celebrating creation of WMD . Smh
"Yeah but I meant to use it on the Nazis" as if they were worse than the Imperial Japanese annoyed me. The Japanese had a nuclear program by the way, but it was nowhere near producing anything (also true of the Germans)
Source?
@@vincelang3779 Easy to calculate from the numbers of dead in wiki and other sources.
@@vincelang3779 That's in China and Indonesia alone by the way, not including the rest of east Asia. 20 million Chinese (16 million civilians) and 4 million Indonesians (all civilians). Divide 24 million by an 8-year occupation and you get 250k per month. And they still occupied all that territory at the end of the war, unlike Germany which lost everything except Norway before they surrendered. (And speaking of Norway, watch "The Heroes of Telemark" with Kirk Douglas for the true story of the Norwegian commandos who blew up the German heavy water plant in Norway.)
My favorite part of this reaction is at 32:05 into the reaction. I won't spoil why. However, anyone who goes back to 32:05 and watches it again will immediately know why it is my favorite part. So funny but subtle. Laughed out loud at that part.
Feynman is so cool they named star systems after him in the Mass Effect and Starfield games ❤
I like how she was so anxious after hearing the atmosphere might catch fire & destroy the world. It didn't so we're here but that's the kind of feeling good movies can impart.
I like the movie but it's probably a one & done, not high on my rewatchability scale.
Excellent reaction to a fantastic movie!!! Love the end discussion:) 🎥
The sound design and music are excellent. Ludwig Göransson will probably win the Oscar tonight for Best Score, and it will be a well-deserved win, but in regard to the sound design itself, that Oscar really ought to go to The Zone of Interest. I have never IN MY LIFE seen a film in which the sound alone carries such profound thematic weight, but that's what the sound in The Zone of Interest does. #IYKYK
Fitting you post this on the day it took over the Oscars.
It took me awhile to get into how this movie was structured. I’ll probably appreciate it more on a re-watch.
Christopher Nolan is a genius. This movie is incredible
Well this was a Rare-&-Fun treat, Thank You!💝I had literally just finished one Premiere and walked right into another...✌