This is a video I've wanted to make for a good while now. Feels like all my other Star Wars videos were building to this. Since I can't seem to go two videos without mentioning Star Wars, it was something I needed to get off my chest. Onto the references: Movies/TV: >The Phantom Menace >Attack of the Clones >Revenge of the Sith >A New Hope >The Empire Strikes Back >Return of the Jedi >The Last Jedi >The Rise of Skywalker >Bladerunner >THX1138 >Fanboys >Spaced >Gremlins >Death Note >Lord of the Rings >The Spongebob Squarepants Movie >Breaking Bad Videogames: >Lego Star Wars RUclips Videos: >Red Letter Media's Plinkett Reviews for Star Wars episodes 1, 2, and 3. >Darth Jar Jar - Star Wars Theory by Vincent Vendetta >Every Time Star Wars Quotes Other Movies 3.0 by Rick Worley. >"The Star Wars Prequels Still Suck" by The Amazing Atheist. >Why Does the Podracing Scene Look So Realistic After 20+ years? by CGY >The Surprising Practical Effects of the Star Wars Prequels by Not Exactly Normal >The Parade at the End of Star Wars Episode 1 is the Emperor's Theme in Major Key by Darth Triulus
Dawg the sarlacc pit sequence has slapstick with boba fett having all his attacks get accidentally countered, then gets mistakenly taken out by a blind Han Solo and falls into the pit that burps. Endor also had plenty moments where Han especially would drop quips even when under fire from the storm troopers, the speeder bike scene uses the gag of having the bad guy character not paying attention and crashing into a tree. Jar Jar was never a problem.
The original trilogy had a cool setting for people to write stuff in. The prequel trilogy had a cool, even more fantasy-oriented, setting for people to write stuff in. They’re great, because writers made them great. I personally prefer anything that Disney didn’t make, except maybe a few animations
I wanna make something clear that very few people, including prequel defenders, seem to understand. Midichlorians are NOT the Force. They are two separate things. Midis are cells that allow living beings to understand what the Force is trying to tell us. Qui-Gon even says this the moment they’re introduced. I don’t understand why EVERYONE glosses over this. The Force is still mystical
its easy to say plinkett was wrong looking back at it all these years later. We only had the og trilogy to compare it to. when you compare the prequels to all the star wars content we have gotten since, the prequel trilogy is a masterpiece in comparison. culture and expectations have changed drastically over the past 25 years. I think plinketts reviews bring up a lot of good points the prequels were not masterpiece cinema by any means. they are flawed treasures. and lets face it, the plinkett reviews are comedic in nature. its aim was to be more harsh on the series than a normal review would have been
Yeah, but I hate the whole "comedy is immune to criticism" thing. He clearly has a bitter attitude towards Lucas and a rather immature view on things. Him masking it in humour shouldn't end the discussion. It should also be noted that Plinkett suggested JJ Abrams direct Star Wars. So Plinkett got what he wanted, and the Disney Trilogy was the result. Plinkett genuinely misunderstood the prequels. It's not that the prequels are flawless, but that his very idea of what it should have been is flawed to begin with. The perspective he criticizes from is wrong. If he were in charge of The Phantom Menace, it would have been The Force Awakens.
@@whatsinameme5258 that was I didn't like about his videos; I agreed with many points, but you could feel the bitterness and he masked it in part with 'comedy' and 'irony'. Many points stand while others were weak to begin with.
my only problem with the prequels, after much reflection, is that general grievous is much less cool in the film than he was when he debuted in the 2003 tartakovsky animated short films.
If you don't like the prequels because they are too different from the originals, then don't worry. The sequel trilogy will always be there to give you the photocopy imitation of the originals you always wanted.
I'd honestly feel better if RLM admitted to being Trekkies, preferring Star Trek over Star Wars. That way, it makes more sense why their Star Wars reviews aren't as good because they aren't as invested in the series as much as they are with Star Trek. As it is, I think their takes on Star Wars and their reviews are some of the worst critiques I've seen about Star Wars, filled to the brim with strawmen, poorly researched criticisms, false allegations and a whole lot of fan whinging that doesn't amount to anything than an entitled fan not getting what they want. Personally, I'm indifferent about Red Letter Media. I don't think they're bad as Anomaly Inc makes them out to be, yet I don't think they're as good as Mauler, Drinker or Nerdrotic make them out to be. Sometimes they make good observations about the culture, like the whole "Don't ask questions. Just consume product and be excited for next product" and the "LOYALTY TO DISNEY. LOYALTY TO THE BRAND" comments. Yet when I watch their Star Wars critiques, I'm often asking myself "Guys, did you even watch the same movie as me? You missed this, this and this points." As it is, I think they're extremely overrated and I think the latest slate of RUclips critics who were fans or inspired by RLM (like the before mentioned Mauler, Drinker or Nerdrotic) have managed to be more entertaining and informative than these guys in much the same way how Anomaly Inc has surpassed his inspiration, Chris Stuckman. In short, RLM sucks at critiquing Star Wars. Stop pretending you guys know Star Wars better than the people you look down on like the prequel fans or even George Lucas himself.
It's refreshing to see a a great nuanced take. RLM are at their best when they are doing comedy skits and making fun of people. Nerd Crew and Best of the Worst are the highlight of their channel, because they aren't doing anything serious, they are just joking around. However with Half in the Bag and the Plinkett reviews, they are quite awful a lot of the time. People take those reviews seriously. It's astonishing that people treat Plinkett as if he is the best reviewer of all time, when his reviews are about as deep as a cross between Cinema Sins nitpicks and Nostalgia Critic skits. Those reviews are really shallow. I think RLM just likes to make funny short films. Much like the Angry Video Game Nerd. I think many like the Plinkett Reviews for the same reason people like those Angry Video Game Nerd videos. Watching The Nerd take a dump on a game, is much the same as watching Plinkett pee on a copy of the Phantom Menace. The difference is, no one treats the Angry Video Game Nerd as if he is a genuine game reviewer. But people treat Plinkett as if his review of the Prequels is some sacred text. I honestly think the only reason people think the review is deep, is because its long. At least for the time it was released. Over a decade later, Mauler makes ten times longer reviews and they don't even have skits devouring the runtime. Mauler does critique much better. I have issues with Mauler too, but he is much more intellectually honest then RLM. I'd be curious to see EFAP try to tear apart my video.
One is literally the hero’s journey and the other is a greek tragedy* (corrected) and origin story of the empire How could someone say they failed at doing something they didn’t even try? They did the opposite instead
It makes so much more sense to look at the prequels as a greek tragedy (protag/hero succumbs to his own fatal flaw). It's just not the same kind of story as the very archetypal hero's journey of Luke's trilogy
I just find that "Plinkett" really makes no true argument as to why the Prequels are bad, he just rants the whole time. I'm not sure that he makes five good points the entire series.
The weakest points of the prequels to me are A) They are visually ugly (I'm a zoomer, by the way). Even though The Phantom Menace uses a lot of practical effects, all three movies look very reliant on dated late-90s/early 2000s CGI. As a result, something feels "off," and the films are not very pretty to look at. Even Ewan McGregor felt that the experience of shooting the movies was not great, being surrounded by blue screens all the time. And B) The acting feels very stiff, like in a play and not like a movie (expect McGregor at times). Mark Hamill has said that George Lucas is not great at communicating with actors, which possibly explains why A New Hope and the Prequels have some unnatural acting. Perhaps if these two elements were fixed, it would improve the movies considerably. To me, the prequels are interesting in theory, but the execution was not the strongest. I think 70s George Lucas would have pulled it off flawlessly, but 90s George Lucas was a bit rusty as a director (he didn't direct a movie for 20 years before Phantom Menace).
Interestingly enough, George never intended to direct any of the Prequels. He wanted to approch the trilogy much in the same with Episodes V and VI. Being that he wanted someone else to direct the films for him, while he served as producer and story consultant to help get his vision across. George was very much put off directing after the total nightmare he went through when making the first Star Wars movie. That's why basically everything he worked on up until the Phantom Menace and the later two films, was as a producer. Lucas however was unable to find anyone willing to take on the job of directing Episode I, despite approching both Ron Howard and even his own personal friend Steven Spielberg. From what I've heard, it was actually his friends that encourged George to write and direct the film himself, reasoning that it was his vision at the end of the day and he should try and make it the way he wanted it.
The prequels had a great plot with flawed execution, the original trilogy had a great plot with great execution, the sequels had an awful plot and terrible execution. In theory you could remake the prequels with some changes and they'd be nearly as or as good as the OT. With the sequels, there's nothing that can redeem them, you'd have to tell a completely different story for it to work.
I agree that the phantom menace and attack of the clones had good plots with bad execution, but revenge of the sith is the exact opposite. Anakin's turn to the dark side is so incredibly contrived and silly that i fail to see how that specific plot could actually be executed in a better way.
As a Gen X myself I have to admit that my evaluation of the prequels has pretty radically shifted as I’ve gotten older. I used to absolutely hate them but now I quite like them, especially episode 1.
Your logic is flawed. Just because movies are getting worse, doesn't make the prequels better movies, they can't be moved from a 6 rating to an 8. They are less terrible by comparison because most modern movies are now a 4.
@ my… logic? It’s not an argument, it’s an opinion. My personal tastes have shifted overtime and I enjoy the prequels now more than I did when they first came out.
@@Dram1984 Settle down. Your person logic led you at one time to end at one conclusion. Movie's X + Y * Z = Bad/Not Good. Something like time and other movies have altered your personal logic. It has mine.
To reply to the two guys at around 1:40, technically the original back story we were promised was one of darth and anakin being two different people, but if I'm able to ill just make that version of episode 3 myself with a.i. like anyone will be able to in tenish years
I saw the OT first then the Prequels second, each time one after the other came out. I always thought they were good movies. All 6 of them. However, impossible expectations and standards were set and upheld by certain fanatics of the OT. They were butt-hurt that these films didn’t turn out the way they envisioned them plain and simple. Most people I knew growing up; adults and kids alike liked these films. I never understood why so much people had to be toxically acerbic about it.
What I always appreciated about the prequels is that they tell a different story than the originals but they still have similar storytelling. I always felt they were half the same and half different. Glad to see more people noticing this.
Yes. It only becomes a problem when the EU adopted its design method and applied it to the older and ancient eras of the world, but that’s the EU’s fault, not the PT.
I gathered the opposite meaning from the Darth Jar Jar meme, that it represents how treating George Lucas as a demonic monster blaspheming the holy scripture of the Original Trilogy who can only create when controlled by others, if not by "the real creators" then by "the real fans" showing what mature and grown-up real men they were by throwing baby tantrums and harassing people, did nothing to help Star Wars and only hurt it in the long run by making Lucas's life so miserable that he gave in and gave the baby to the white slavers, which the anti-Lucas contingent cheered for until they didn't. I like the idea of people telling Jar Jar, and ultimately through him George Lucas, "Perhaps we treated you too harshly."
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord! Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.", "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." and, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
People miss nuance in criticizing of Jar Jar. The droids were also used comedy, but they only complain about Jar Jar because his character wasn’t well used. The R2 and 3PO are the trickster god and the blabber mouth respectively, they’re a good comedy duo and they’re essential for the story. Jar Jar is the goof, but his use in the prequels is kinda bad. What plays a role is his actions is his stupidity, which doesn’t require the goof archetype; and they dont take much advantage of his goofiness outside of the comedic side of it (CW is a good example of his goofiness being used well on some episodes)… also he’s not a droid so he can’t carry holograms for people or pretend to be the golden god of the ewoks… He loses much of his agency after the first movie and then just shows up to give Sheev ultimate power (and then in comics proceeds to die depressed when the empire rises)
I'd argue they get some good use of the interactions between Jar Jar and Qui Gon. Qui Gon being annoyed by him constantly, but kinda being stuck with him. But I agree it's not as good as the C3PO/R2D2 dynamic.
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I think George himself stated that Midichlorians and the Force aren't one and the same. The Force itself merely has a symbiotic relationship with them that it uses as a way to speak through. I think he mainly introduced it as a way of trying to explain why certain are capable of using the Force while others can't despite existing everywhere. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of the Midichlorians, but I do think people go way overboard on the quote on quote ''damage'' it does to the Force and overall misinterpret on what they actually are. It certainly never goes into how having a high bloodcount inables you to use all these crazy ass powers. In my opinion, Disney has done way worse damage with the Force, with half the plot hole destroying powers it's introduced that just makes you ask why these powers were never used in the previous films. If Rey is able to use the Force to heal injuries or Kylo able to use it to resurrect Rey back from death itself, why didn't Obi-Wan use this on Qui-Gon in Episode I? Why didn't Anakin use this on his mother in Attack of the Clones? Why didn't Luke use this to save his dying father in ROTJ? The Force in all of George's movies were shown to be able to do a lot of fantasic things, but it wasn't capable of doing everything. There was still clear limitations of what Jedi and Sith could and couldn't do with it.
Long Reply Time I fully agree with you but yeah, Plinket and pretty much anyone from RLM have a big hate boner for the prequels. The whole "there was no main character thing" really drove me up the wall because it was an ensemble cast type of movie where everyone was playing off each other in a believable way. I always felt the "Phantom Menace" reffered to Palpatine scheme in the background. Something I personally find compelling is that the Prequels hit a lot harder for me as I grow older, I'm an older millennial and i'm rediscovering my faith, and There is a video floating around on youtube about how Palpatine is essentially the devil and how he ensnares Anakin, the chosen one, and how compelling that is because evil wins in the end. People go on about how they love The Empire Stirkes Back and its dark tone, but the prequels have that feeling ten-fold, you see Anakin as a child and his fall from grace, everyone loves him, and it was even more heartbreaking when they had to put him down , even Obi-Wan cried out that he was his brother and loved him, like how can anyone not see that the prequels are pretty amazing pieces of art. I guess like I said this hits harder for me now because of my born again Christianity which i would NEVER admit to my friends because it is fashionably cringe or makes me a evil person for having faith at all. Palpatine is really compelling with how he plants the seeds of doubt and reminds me a little of the Gen X'ers trying to gaslight the fans into thinking these movies were bad just because they weren't the same as the Original Trilogy. Plinkett (Rich Evans or whoever , Mike? ) come off like the older gen-x'ers that hated the prequels that I had the misfortune of palling around when I was younger, who really hated anything that reminded them that they weren't the target audience / kids anymore, even right now we are going through that with video games , generational shifts happen and are normal, but it doesnt mean one has to hunker down and be bitter about it, embrace change and see it as means to grow as a better person. I feel you were onto something when you mentioned that in your video , it isn't mean at all.
Interesting you mention this, as I both found spirituality and came to appreciate the prequels pretty much at the exact same time. I used to be an atheist, and I think it's no coincidence that there is an ENORMOUS overlap between prequel haters and atheist/"skeptic" types. I watched Amazing Atheist and Armored Skeptic back in the day, and they both despise the prequels. I wouldn't call myself a Christian, but there are definitely religious elements in the prequels, and I think that triggers these types of people. The prequels have Biblical/Greek Tragedy qualities to them.
@@whatsinameme5258 I can relate to that, as earlier in my 20s I was chaotic and unhinged, so I do really relate to what you are saying. The prequels are super important to me these days as they have sort of a tragedy to them that can be applied to one's own life to just not take things for granted and have faith in one another to have things work out for the best. your video really touched me on a level I wasn't expecting, I was feeling similar things but you put it into words that make it all just click. In a way I am just reading the bible and taking what I can to apply to my life in a way to do better as a person and as a man I need to be to support my love ones through the tough times. So in a sense I'm not sure what I am either.
@@JohnAGalvanArt That's super awesome. I hear you, the world is in a precarious situation. I recently became a father, so I'm pretty concerned about the world my son is gonna grow up in. I must confess, I reacted similarly to Anakin when I first heard news of the pregnancy. Its funny, because everyone said Anakin's reaction was strange and made fun of it, but its actually pretty accurate. The prospect of fatherhood during a sort of civilizational collapse, is one that that leaves one ambivalent and looking confused. Just goes to show that comedy and tragedy are two sides of the same coin. It's comedy when its someone else suffering, but when its you, you understand the tragedy. Its why the prequels are so funny. But it's also deep when you start to feel how real it is.
I thank God for seeing a believer of the only Truth that is the One and Only God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit here! It's a comfort. Jesus is Lord!
@@whatsinameme5258 PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord! Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.", "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." and, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
Vast majority of my favourite films come from 80's and early 90's but it didn't prevent me from enjoying Prequel Trilogy when I first saw it. I was really surprised when I found out how much criticism those films got.
Absolutely fantastic video! The prequels are indeed excellent & the most wrongly hated films of all time. This video is going on my "The Prequels Are Good" playlist!
Bro how can anyone take Mr Plinkett seriously when he looks like that, it looks like he's supposed to be parodying reviewers who hate modern star wars except he's serious
So glad that with the help of content creators like you and JJ plagiarisms, the prequels are finally undergoing their long deserved resurrection. I just hope and pray that these videos gain more traction, and that maybe someday our sentiments of prequel love will even reach George Lucas. We are sorry for the hate you received from our predecessors George, but the people you truly made the movies for have come of age and WE love them. ❤️
A well conceived video. I can see there's no fooling you. I was one of those who adored both trilogies at the time and considered them as a cohesive whole as intended. I watched the additional behind the scenes footages several times and directors commentary for deeper insight that solidified my devotion to it. All these years later, even after seeing Plinkett's reviews, my opinion of them has never waivered.
Prequels made the star wars universe lore more interesting, there are few awesome scenes (mainly Palpatine, Maul and Obi wan moments), but man, some dialog moments are still cringe, even if I love the memes that came out of it. And don't make me started on silly very dated green screen scenes. That being said, without prequels we would not get awesome games like Knights of the old republic, and bunch of awesome Sith lore books (darth Plagueis, exc.) PS. Disney will never be true Canon!
the main character of TPM is Quigon. he's the guy we primarily follow through the film, though there are a number of characters you could say also fit tge bill. but Quigon's the main guy.
I feel like the Prequel is more of Obi Wan's story. He's the most proactive character throughout the trilogy, always the one making his stand but getting wiser each time.
I personally couldn’t argue that these movies stand on their own because I grew up with them and always been a fan. Although I do prefer the stuff that came out of them, even if they suck most often than not, which is fine, they’re not the movies anyway… except when Disney decided to make new movies that added nothing new to the setting. It failed on the front that the other 6 excel at: Fantasy (we literally call them space wizards, it’s LotR in space. It could’ve just been forgotten in time like other good fantasy out there, but it did something unique and had the money to back it up. It’ll forever be massive part of the fantasy genre because of that). But the plot and writing is also weird. They *can* make movies and series that don’t suck even if they add nothing new and break with original canon… but they failed, on the *sequel to Star Wars!* because they wanted money. Then there’s KOTOR, which isn’t perfect but is pretty close
I do like lots of things about the prequels, especially compared to the newer ones, but I think it's dumb to characterize people not liking the trilogy as macho gen x meatheads that don't like anything emotionally complex or sensitive. Sure when they compare it to the originals, it might come across like prequels haters exclusively watch 80s action blockbusters, but I'm pretty sure they do like a lot of things that are more experimental from that. Like mike and jay from rlm have positively reviewed a lot of movies that deviate from their favorite movies' formula. They just don't like the prequels cause it's just a poorly written and directed attempt at experimentation. You probably hate st anger, but it's not cause you "don't get it" it just sucks unlike good experimental music like mr bungle's stuff.
A better analogy for Plinkett and Co. however, would be if someone said that 100 Gecs or Dillinger Escape Plan are bad because they don't sound like ACDC. As in they aren't even attacking it on the correct grounds. These bands never even tried to sound like ACDC in the first place. Even if you think these bands sound awful, they didn't "fail" to be ACDC. I don't like St Anger, but I don't make an hour long review step by step comparing it to Master of Puppets and how it "failed" to be that. Metallica clearly weren't trying to make Master of Puppets, they were experimenting. So the very basis of that analysis would be flawed.
I think that's a valid point, cause there probably are a decent amount of haters that just wanted a rehash of the original. But in my experience, most of the criticisms people usually have is that it's just a poor attempt at doing something different. The rlm guys for example whave praised more experimental movies, including stuff like drive that does something different in the context of a hollywood action flick like the prequels. You clearly like the movies but you can at least see why someone would find george lucas's go at a moodier, darker tone just ends up unintentionally funny, boring, pretentious, etc. I agree that the video compares two different things too much but most of the criticisms do have to do with the actual writing imo. I just disagree framing it like that's people's main critique, and not just a minor problem in the video's script. Plus the prequels still aim to be epic space adventures but just slightly darker, not something as different as blade runner. It's like comparing red apples to green apples, not oranges.
I personally don't have a dog in the fight: I watched all six as a child but have no emotional tether that goes deep. What I got out of watching Plinket's review as a teenager was a fructifying insight into storytelling analysis. However, you make lot of good points in defence of the prequels. I have never recalled those nuances of the main characters. I do recall the style of acting being very... not colourful. But there is cheesy acting in the originals also.
That segment where Plinkett asks people to describe various characters was particularly insidious. I found that very compelling and persuasive. It was essentially what convinced me the prequels were bad. Had I known they were his friends and this interaction was staged, I would not have found it compelling.
@@M2Mil7er I do not, but most of my friends share my social and political leanings, and as an honest person, if I wanted to convince people of something I believed, I wouldn't stage an interview with people that agreed with me, and pass it off as a random sampling of opinions. I'd either try to get a good sampling of opinions on the topic, or I'd notify the audience that these are my friends and thus take it with a grain of salt.
It makes no difference that they know each other. It wasn't "staged" in the sense that it was scripted. They didn't know what they were going to be asked and they weren't given predetermined responses. They gave spontaneous answers on the spot. Unless you have evidence to the contrary?
@@19jez89 it makes a huge difference that they're friends. They are frequent guests on his (or is it their?) channel. They share a channel because they share interests and views. This is akin to that time that Rachel Maddow was called "unreasonable" by her detractors and so she put a poll on her own website that found that over 80% of people thought she was being reasonable.
I think plinklett reviews arent supposed to be taken too seriously but I will say as a GenZer that didnt watch the Star Wars films as a kid, and have no nostalgia attached to them,(only played the games) the prequels arent that great except episode 3. Although they did have some good ideas and introduced some really cool stuff that I love like the droids, darth maul, general Grievous, the clones and more. Imo ep 1 is ok, ep 2 sucks and I hated the romance between Anakin and Padme, and EP 3 is really solid even if it some hilarious dialogue (UNLIMITED POWERR!!! lol). So for me I think Ep5 is the best and the prequels are not as good as the originals. Atleast the prequels arent as bad as ep 7-9 lol 😅
I don't see the "Unlimited Power" line as bad, just funny. Palpatine is a campy villain. Thats perfectly fine. I love him for it. People forget how cheesy the original trilogy is too. Whenever they cut back to the Death Star, the music goes "Dun, dun dun, duuuuuun". It might as well have a flash of lightning and narration saying "Meanwhile at the villains lair". I don't see why the OG Star Wars gets a free pass on it's camp, but when the prequels do it, its bad writing, bad acting, bad directing, etc.
@whatsinameme5258 ah I hope It didn't come across as me saying that line was bad. I also think "Unlimited power" is hilarious and memorable, and I like how goofy it is. Thanks for responding I enjoyed your video!
It's a good meme. I didn't really criticize Plinkett's take on the "Ending Multiplication Effect" because he may have had a point there. The four things going on at the same time at the end of Episode 1 is a bit much. I think it works fine for a little kids, as they have low attention spans, so the variety might be good in that case, but it is rather chaotic still. I don't think it ruins the movie, but it was the right call to have more focused endings in the following two films. It seems to me Lucas was showing regret for the way the ending was handled, but Plinkett uses that quote to make Lucas sound dumb, or that he was regretting the entire movie, which I don't think is the case.
Absolutely loved this video and agree 100%. You story of watching the Plinkett reviews and then coming to fully, abashedly own loving the Prequels is literally me too. Would love to see videos taking on his Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith reviews!
Well, you've definitely earned my subscription! Such a fun takedown of the awful anti prequel/Lucas talking points I still hear about. I am completely on board with how you view this trilogy, it really was the high point for Star Wars, it's such a shame people couldn't realize it, and it's sad to know how far it's fallen under Disney. At least we can always go back to Lucas's Saga. I also love how you also contest the arguments that The Clone Wars or other media fixes the films. I'd argue that there are actually a few contradictions between the two.
Yes, if anything it can add more issues. Besides, Plinkett says a few times in his review to not counter him with such reasoning, so I didn't want to be so easily dismissed as the guy going "Acshually, in 850 BBY..."
Okay now this is based. I marathoned the entire original plinket videos on star wars and it skewed my opinion for years. Until like you I came to the conclusion that even if it was supposed to be "comedy" Plinket and whoever made it is just a jaded genX boomer and that the prequels were certainly BASED Another banger good sir 👍👍
@@VARVIS_ Doesn't matter if I'm him or not, I speak the truth. You got tricked by the pod-race scene and the lightsaber battles when you were like 8 or 10 or whatever, and it gave you a bias toward prequel-apologia. You might enjoy them, but they stink.
I love this channel man. I honestly have the boomer opinion still that I don’t really like the prequels as much as the originals but the writing on this video was great enough to keep me entertained for the full hour, props man🥂
Great video bravo 43:19 if he wants to be like that yes the duel is about the character more specifically about the fate of Anakin which is why the song that is played is called Duel of the Fates
Last summer I had a friend who was OBSESSED with Mr. Plinkett, specifically the reviews on the prequels. He was dead set that not only were they “funny”, but also informative and factual. I tried to tell him that those videos were just garbage, but homie was glued to the videos. Love this video.
About the CGI part, I fully agree, practical and CGI are tools that can work great or be misused. Even older, less realistic CGI has a lot of charm, it's really cool to see the 3D animations they made between the 70's and early 2000's. Also I own the same Silicon Graphics keyboard (typing this with it) and monitor that is shown in the Episode I behinds the scenes video, we gotta appreciate the pioneers.
They were definitely experimental. He used the prequels as an engine to test new technology. He wanted to perfect it and make it cheaper so other companies can use it for their movies.
I always appreciated the mystic qualities of the main Jedi characters. Varied but always trying to get in touch with their individual connections to the Force and others at a more fundamental level...zen like. I think one of the reasons there was so much angst over midichlorians as an explanation of the Force is actually fairly simple. In a galaxy with hyperspace engines, planet annihilating weapons, laser swords - in other words vast technologies - why wasn't there a technology applied to everyday use of something that exists everywhere? It's like trying to have civilisation today without using water. We know about water, it's plentiful, it looks useful, but only a few highly trained individuals get to access it and use it to any degree. It just seems to be a cop out. Leave the Force mystical and mysterious instead of measured and everyday. But that's just my opinion.
I've always like the prequels more, not for the corny humor or edginess or anything in particular. I think they're all around just better than Hero's Journey in Space. The original trilogy was great, but it just doesn't seem consistently as compelling to me. I'm more of a fan of classic tragedies anyway, so there's my bias
Yeah, I find that particularly hard to believe. Especially when Plinkett says that everyone was too intimidated and scared of Lucas to speak up. Lucas is a rather timid seeming man. I find it hard to believe people are terrified of a human version of Winnie the Pooh.
It’s actually so hilarious when you think about it that, actually, even Hayden questioned George‘s way of doing things, before being explained the differences of what people might expect/think of the prequels and what they really want to show and tell.
It definitely wasn't a soulless commercial endeavor. We got a good look at what a soulless cash-grab version of Star Wars was when JJ Abrams took the reins. I would say most of the criticisms about the prequels failing from a story-telling and logical consistency point of view have some merit. Lucas is a great filmmaker, but he worked best when he had people challenging him. The original concept of Luke being middle-aged wouldn't have worked. With the prequels he had a room of yes-men and they didn't push him for consistency in story and in his own canon. Phantom Menace came out when I was in grade school. I liked it and still do in terms of it being a satisfying adventure film. It's a lot campier than the original trilogy, and that's fine. I also liked John Carter for similar reasons. It could have been a lot better. I preferred Opie and Anthony when they were on terrestrial radio and had to work within the limitations of the FCC for similar reasons. They were a lot more creative when they had to work within the confines of a system.
Everyone watching back in the day seemed to forget Plinkett was a character and the reviews were jokes, so now cleanup operations coming in years after the fact have to humor them with the dignity of serious arguments out of respect for their influence despite the end result being sledgehammer meets drywall.
@@whatsinameme5258 Both are hilarious. You were doing a bit, right? The Siri, do a youtube critic Tron 3000 on Ambien thing has to be intentional, yes?
FINALLY, someone took the words out of my mouth about the prequels! Are the prequels absolute masterpieces with no flaws? Absolutely not, they have glaring flaws primarily with the dialogue (IMO). However, are they creative? Experimental? Unique? At many times entertaining? YES! While I still prefer the OG trilogy I am grateful that I grew up with the prequels vs the sequels simply for the fact that it felt like it had real genuine love put into it. Risks were taken with these movies and despite many of them falling flat with audiences it at least wasn't just a rehash of an already popular trilogy or a half assed story they felt like actual MOVIES. I hate that it took a huge backlash against Disney to make people appreciate the prequels more. I wanted to like the sequels but I just couldn't see past their glaring flaws like I could the prequels as they lacked the clear vision and soul that George had when he still ran the franchise. If you like the sequels that's fine I just feel like everything that George Lucas was accused of by only caring about the money, pandering to kids etc. just falls flat when compared to Disney who has been blatantly guilty of this. Despite everything I still love Star Wars and always will and with a universe as massive and deep as SW there will always be a chance to tell a great story within it for both adults and kids.
Yes, the sequels are guilty of what Plinkett accuses and them some. Yet Plinkett doubled down in his Force Awakens review. Basically just used that review to talk trash about the prequels even more. He really can't get over his George Lucas hate obsession.
I’m 10 seconds into the video and I’m already shaking my head…These movies are awful. The acting is pedestrian. The camera work is lazy. The CGI is ubiquitous and has aged poorly. They’re not fully without merit, but they are not good films…hard stop.
He still thinks the same thing. Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary. I watched an episode of "Best of The Worst" a few months back, just to see what Red Letter Media is up to these days. It was a video completely unrelated to Star Wars, yet Mike Stoklasa had a 5 minute rant about George Lucas in that video. He is still seething about the Prequels. I highly doubt he's changed his mind. If anything, he'd probably double down if pressed on it.
I think I see your point. We (the 80's generation) are from the past looking forward to a new franchise but you are in the present looking at right now. And that Lucas was actually successful at launching said franchise because he didn't add to an already existing franchise. Which then allows the new audience to see it as something in and of itself. I think that is a fair perspective and I could not argue with it, given my age. From our generation's perspective, we see it as Lucas' calculated formula that he used to plug a hole where the prequels fit. There was excessive backstory on inconsequential characters and it was very indulgent. Boba Fett is a a cool character and all, but I didn't really care about his childhood. In fact, it actually spoils it because I didn't want to know. It just sort of spoils the illusion that episodes IV, V and VI created. And isn't that what fantasy is all about?
I don't think people dislike Jar-Jar because they are man-children. I think they dislike him because it's weird to have poop and fart jokes in the same movie where a guy murders a bunch of children in cold blood. Usually people who defend this kind of stuff use the same argumentative technique though, i.e., "It's a childrens' film when it supports my argument, but not when it doesn't."
Episode 1 and 3 are different movies. You'll notice there is a gradual transition to these films. Phantom Menace is childish: Jar Jar and Little Kid Anakin. Clones is Teenager-like: Awkward Romance, lots of action/mystery. And Revenge is more adult: The gravity of the political situation is revealed and people have to deal with death. So yes the prequels are both children's movies and not at the same time. It's as if you "grow up" alongside the movies. One detail I like is that in The Phantom Menace, the droids sound cold and threatening, whereas by Revenge of the Sith, the droids sound like silly cartoon characters. It's as if we are growing with Anakin. Little kid Anakin would be scared of these droids, whereas adult Jedi Anakin no longer fears them, and treats them like a joke. They are coming of age movies, in a way.
@whatsinameme5258 also harry Potter did the same thing (begin from the perspective of a child and gradually get more serious) but had the common sense not to culminate in the equivalent of a school shooting. And the first few HP movies are quite silly but are still enjoyed by millennials and Gen X.
@@OmnislashVII Bad Comparison. There was nothing preceding Harry Potter, so that's why they didn't get backlash. For example, The Hobbit Trilogy was also hated, because it was a childish series that followed up the "gritty and manly" Lord of the Rings. Of course an original IP would not receive the same scrutiny as the prequels or the hobbit movies. And if Harry Potter is upheld as a template as to what the prequels should have been, then am I ever glad you weren't in charge of the prequels. LOL. Maybe they would've been more popular at the time if they were more like Harry Potter, but they would be less interesting and age poorer.
While I wholeheartedly agree with most of this video's main points, I also find it amazing to see how much public opinion has improved on the prequels now that the kids that grew up with them have come of age and are now setting the public opinion. I wonder if in twenty years from now, Gen Z and Gen Alpha kids will be arguing that the Sequel Trilogy and the 4,956 subsequent works in the Disney-Marvel-Star Wars Spiderverse are better than anything Lucas ever produced.
Nope, the prequels are still boring. I'm 25, definitely not a boomer by any sense, but when I watch the prequels I'm still bored to tears by the wooden, stiff, dialogue and flat shot composition that looks closer to a Lifetime TV show than a blockbuster film. The CGI is impressive for the time, but when you don't care or don't feel the stakes for why all these grand space battles are happening, my eyes start to glaze over and I feel the need to take a nap. I don't hate the prequels, I never have, I mainly feel apathy towards them. People contorting themselves into pretzels trying to prop the prequels up as great films because of how bad the DIsney sequels are comes off as incredibly emotional and simply defending something you liked as a kid. Which is fine, just say you liked it as a kid, you liked the Star Wars toys and be honest about it.
@@stupidclown4327 So just like... Should nobody ever review movies anymore? Nobody's allowed to voice their opinion about a movie? They made points you could've attempted to counter, but THIS is what you went with? Your opinion is just an opinion? Very insightful.
@@NyQuilDonut you can review movies if you want but your opinion isn't automatically objective. Plinkets reviews are full of flaws. His revenge of the Sith review in particular is horrible. He intentionally ignores the movies dialogue so he can nitpick. "why do they trust Palpatine when he's so evil looking" after Palpatine explains he's been scarred and deformed by a Jedi attack. There's countless other silly things he says in his reviews that I could go into if I had the time or cared enough
@@stupidclown4327 When did I ever say i was speaking from a position of objectivity? Because I didn't start my comment with "in my opinion..."? That's implied whenever someone makes a comment, it's their opinion, otherwise I wouldn't be saying it. Again, you can just say you enjoyed the movies because you liked them as a kid, that's perfectly fine. And I find the original trilogy pretty boring too, I don't like episode IV or VI, and only like V. So I'm not coming from a position of defending the originals. I think the prequels are boring and about as deep as a puddle. They have interesting ideas sure, but I think the best thing ever done with prequel ideas was the 2003 Clone Wars animated series personally.
@@stupidclown4327 Umm ok, nobody said anything about their opinion being objective except for YOU. Also, yeah, no review is perfect. Doesn't make the prequels good movies though lol.
Midichlorians are bad though. They could’ve just said “force sensitivity” and had anakin think really hard so the device could measure it. People in fandom use force-sensitivity and force-ability distinctly, meaning one could have it easy but still never be able to fly 3 lightsabers at once, due to talent or wisdom. It breaks with fantasy and sprinkles in sci-fi unnecessarily. The fans would do that to blasters and lightsabers anyway, ik ik, but the movie itself doing that has a lot more impact of how people see the force (I again point out the weird sht that KOTOR did with the force to exemplify. Even if none of it appears elsewhere, it’s consistent with the only element of the force that matters -“comes from and connects all living beings”- while doing whatever it wants with it)
Maybe. But I think it makes more sense for Palpatine persuading Anakin in ROTS though, to have the force be a concrete thing like midi-chlorians, so that the miracle cure for Padme seems like a recipe that can be concocted scientifically. That Anakin could essentially "Play God". Ironically, Padme's death was beyond science, or at least the doctor droids understanding.
@@whatsinameme5258 it could’ve been concrete still, but in a different way: “weaving the connections of the force to create life” just like a story about alchemy or witchcraft. Anakin was a jedi, we’ve seen the force being used, so it wouldn’t feel less concrete. No one would question seeing a jedi trying to move the insides of a person to stop their bleeding without even touching them. We were never told exactly how Plagueis did it, he just told us it was (we could’ve even had a scene of sith using the force to do more than trickery, divination or acrobatic feats to reinforce this “corruption! manipulation of the fabric of reality”, which we only later had, with the lightning. But it could’ve been healing, enduring lethal pain or manipulating droids’ programming)
A small change to that dialogue and a little scene of a sith doing weird sith would’ve been enough or even improve the perception of the nature of the force. You might not even need a hole scene, just a gesture from Dooku or Maul that clearly indicates they’re using the force in a way they shouldn’t, but that also conveys that they could do more (the lightning doesn’t really do it all that well imo. But I’m obviously biased by hindsight. Force rage wasn’t a thing yet)
Star wars was always space FANTASY for me, Midichlorians ruins the mystique around force users, it reminds me of autistic need for explanations in other prequel franchises, like Alien (Prometheus, another movie that needlesly ruins the vibe of othervise Lovecraftian franchise, also James Hackeron reduced xenomorphs to dumb space bugs that are easily killed).
@@thischannelhasanameright1954 midichlorians don't explain the force. the phone isn't talking to you when you make a call. tge force is on the other side of the midichlorians, they only let you interact with it; in the same way a phone let's you talk to someone on the other end.
After the original trilogy, The Phantom Menace is really only an adequate novie. As a kids' movie, Phantom Menace is not bad but it falls far short of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. Those two films gave audiences high expectations which, sadly, The Phantom Menace didn't meet. To make matters worse, sixteen years had passed since since Return of the Jedi allowing Star Wars to become a romantic part of our childhoods so nothing short of an amazing movie would do... and The Phantom Menace is not an amazing movie. The prequels also didn't look and feel like Star Wars movies. We liked the battered old spaceships, the rusty robots, and the grimy "lived in" scenery of the original Star Wars movies. In contrast, the sleek spaceships, beautiful scenery, and dazzling technology in the prequels look dull and a bit fake. Also, in the 70s and 80s, good special effects were a big deal. A New Hope and ESB were revolutionary in the 1970s. By the 1990s, special effects in movies was no big deal anymore. In 1999, The Matrix was visually far more impressive than The Phantom Menace. I don't dislike the prequels. They are okay. I'm just trying to give my Gen X perspective on the prequels
I'm glad that you've grown as a person and that you see RLM were way too harsh in their criticisms. And I agree with your assessment of the PT in general. But I also like the ST and I could use the same criticisms against you for your dislike of them, and I could use the same defenses you use for the PT to defend the ST. I hope you can continue to grow as a person and someday in the future you can forgive the ST for the things you think are problems. Maybe after we get more context from other shows and movies... just like the Clone Wars did for the PT.
No, the sequels are actually bad. The Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker are literally soulless corporate committee movies. You could argue that The Last Jedi is different because it did have some sort of artistic vision, but it's themes are incoherent and contradictory. Not to mention just bad. These trilogies are not equivalent in the slightest, and that is not me being a hypocrite or a boomer. I would have been open to a new trilogy that was completely different from both the original trilogy and the prequels. Maybe whatever Lucas had planned with the "Whills" or whatever. I did not expect the sequels to give me more of the same. However, the Disney Star Wars are just fanfictions that feel like B Grade Marvel movies at best. This is a ridiculous false equivalence. But if you are sincere in your belief, I encourage you to make a similar video to mine, but in defense of the sequels. I'd be very curious to see that. Also, I literally said in the video that the prequels don't need to rely on the clone wars to be good. If you are trolling, congrats, you got me. If you are serious, take what I say here into consideration. You can like the Sequels, but they don't have the depth of the prequels.
@@whatsinameme5258 I"m not trolling. I also don't make videos. I'm old enough to have seen the original back in '78 right before the Kenner action figures came out. I saw the other two when they were released. I've seen them multiple times on VHS and on cable. I also watched the Special Editions several times each when they were released, and although I had some problems, I was able to overlook those and still enjoy them, and even enjoy some of the new stuff Lucas did. I don't hate CGI like so many do. And I loved each Prequel film and saw them each several times when they were released, even if I had some problems, including with Jar Jar that I was able to eventually overcome. Most of the problems we have come from within us. The biggest lesson to take away from SW is for all of us to take our arrogance and shove it deep up our ignorant asses. When I hear you criticize RLM, I hear the same criticisms I see for the ST. I can't stand RLM so we're in agreement there, but there are tons of vidoes out there defending the ST. If you want to watch any, or listen to any podcasts, seek them out. I recommend Star Wars Explained on RUclips, and the Force Center podcast, who are also on RUclips. There are many others, but they're pretty much at the top and do a very good job of defending the ST. Maybe your problems are within you. Keep growing as a person. I promise you, you'll discover new flaws about yourself as you age.
@@MeanMrMustard1 Just out of curiosity, is there some way a Star Wars trilogy could be bad in your view? Like, what would a Star Wars movie have to do to be unacceptable to you? Where would you draw the line? Are there any movies you consider to be bad? I apologize if I sound condescending, but if some one likes every Star Wars movie ever, it makes it seem as if there is no standard. Do you think the Star Wars Holiday Special is good? Genuine question.
@@whatsinameme5258 I think there is a liberal/conservative dichotomy among human beings, that's on a spectrum of course. Nothing is black and white EXCEPT scientific facts. Art is always subjective. ALWAYS. It's possible for a SW trilogy, or any single film to be bad. But I have faith the powers that be (not Disney execs, but instead Lucasfilm execs), who are all experienced in film making, and other areas of art, to gather talented enough people to get the job done in a satisfactory way. It's not gonna hit with everyone, but no one is trying to sabotage SW. These are artists and they are just trying to create what they want. Some will like it, and some won't. But there will always be detractors. There are anti-Disney people out there. They are extremely hard to please. They have always been there. And their arguments are nearly always in bad faith. They are biased. There are bad influencers out there, always arguing in bad faith, always crapping on everything, only caring about the clicks and the taps and the money. Sensationalism sells. Big giant headlines with big scary red arrows pointing at scapegoats that the influencers know their audience will attack work very well. It brings in money. It is disingenuous to ignore this. You have brought up a lot of this in your video while criticizing RLM, so you know what I'm talking about. What I'm trying to say is the SAME EXACT thing is going on with the ST, and some of the shows, even though you disagree. I've heard all of the arguments against Disney SW and I can agree with some level headed fair criticism, but the hatred, the arrogance, the ignorance, is just stuff I dismiss the same way I've dismissed that kind of stuff when it was hurled at RotJ (Ewok hate, Lucas only caring about money), then the Special Editions, then the PT, then with the Clone Wars movie (Ahsoka hate). I try to find something to like about everything I consume. It doesn't mean I blindly just accept everything. It is very unfair to label someone as just a shill, who has no standards, who can't see the flaws. The more realistic take is to accept that someone can see the flaws, but forgives them and finds something to like. Star Wars is about love, not hate. I see too many fans hating. I see too many fans ignoring the biggest lesson to learn: to take our arrogance and shove it deep up our ignorant asses. I see many fans think they are experts but don't know jack shit. I see a lot of the same hot takes stolen from bad influencers. I don't see any original thoughts or criticisms. It's the same old hateful, bigoted crap borne from arrogance and ignorance. So going back to my view that there is a liberal/conservative dichotomy in humanity: there are people who are open minded, who understand, who try to be humble, who try to love, who are forgiving, and there are people who are closed minded, arrogant, ignorant, see everything as black and white, leave no room for nuance, are very judgmental. And of course there's a spectrum leading from left to right. No one is all the way to the left and no one is all the way to the right. In my opinion, the best way to live life is to learn from our mistakes, knowing that we'll never be perfect. Just keep growing as a person. Try to love instead of hate. I AM NOT seeing that from the critics of Disney SW. I DO see that from people who can find something to love about everything SW that comes out. I have seen the Holiday Special several times over my lifetime, including when it first aired. I don't think it's great. I don't think it's the worse thing ever. It's closer to bad than it is good. But I've enjoyed it every single time I've seen it. There ARE things to enjoy about it besides the Boba Fett cartoon. I don't see a hater in you, but I do see someone who is still growing. You have evolved your sensibilities about the PT. You have seen right through RLM and their shtick. What I'm asking you to do is consider that the same thing is going on with the ST and right now, you just can't see it, but maybe you just need something to get you to see it from a different point of view. Check out Star Wars Explained. Check out Force Center. One thing I love to do is watch reaction videos of people watching the SW movies (all of them) for the first time. Yes, there are still many people who have never seen them. I have seen dozens and dozens of these videos. When these people get to the ST... they love them! They can't understand the hate, except they understand that they themselves do not have 40 plus years of baggage keeping them from enjoying them. And sometimes that's all that it is: older fans who simply can't accept something new and different (conservatism). So seek out some reaction videos. They're fun to watch. These people are not faking it. Okay, maybe some might turn up the acting dial just a bit because they know they're on camera, but many times their reactions are genuine. Go check them out.
I don't care much for gremlins and I grew up with it. Not a great example to even compare the prequels with. The plinkett videos come off as almost satire of the mouth breathing, mainstream movie goer to me
Nostalgia influences both opinions obviously. When episode 1 came out it was the first time I ever remember that many grown men standing in line to see s kids movie. Normal gen x guys had forgotten star wars so to be angry about these mediocre movies is just a weird form of arrested development. They were fun movies with major flaws but its not that deep.
I mean, he is kinda right about qui-gon not having to exist in this movie (Which is a shame, I love that character). His existence itself is a plot hole and it contradicts the statment obi wan made about yoda being his master and not anyone else.
Does he say "And not anyone else?". I just always assumed Obi Wan was a pupil of Yoda's, in a class not unlike the class of younglings in Episode 2. I know Plinkett argues it "cheapens the experience of being taught by Yoda" but I wouldn't necessarily call that a plothole.
@@whatsinameme5258 Yeah, you're right about it not being a plothole. But I'm not sure if we're better off with or without him. I'm a bit biased because the prequels were what got me into SW.
You don't understand that The Phantom Menace is the "pluripotent" embryo that transforms into mature, richly complex cinematic experience composed of six equally essential parts. Star Wars is not just a New Hope or Empire. It is episodes 1 to episode 6. Im 47 and admit I was not a fan of The Phantom Menace upon my first viewing. Watching Revenge of the Sith in the theaters however was one of the greatest movie experiences of my life. After viewing all the films--in the proper order that they must be told--that the circle became complete. Episodes 1 to episodes 5 plays a necessary part to build up to the conclusion of Return of the Jedi, the greatest ending in film history I go as far as to say that George Lucas's six-part Star Wars is the greatest story ever told since the Gospels, composed of powerful archetypical truths capable of transforming how we see and act in this world. And that's why TPTB want to tear it down and destroy it so badly.
@@minabee369 Uhh. Are you sure this response was supposed to be aimed at me? It's not like I said "everything about the movie is wrong". I just pointed out one detail and retracted it shortly after.
The prequels is a good story trying to get out, but George didn't have anyone to challenge his ideas; so it was made poorly. Growing up, I loved them. I saw 1, 2 and 3 midnight for each showing. I was raised to be a star wars nut, and i loved the prequels growing up, but they arent good films. They are awkwardly acted, and some of the writing is pretty contrived. They arent sequel trilogy levels of bad, but they are bad. I still love them though. My favorite is phantom menace, despite it being so hated.
I'm old. You seem to really just want to defend the prequel. It's not art house. They did experiment with new technology and that's good. The storyline was clunky and all over the place. The problem is tying it to another story that was also clunky and all over the place. I don't know anything about plunkett. I will say this, the prequels are not superior.
I just want to make it clear that I disliked the Ewoks not because they were for children it because they looked fake obviously dwarves in teddy bear suits 😆
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This is a video I've wanted to make for a good while now. Feels like all my other Star Wars videos were building to this. Since I can't seem to go two videos without mentioning Star Wars, it was something I needed to get off my chest. Onto the references:
Movies/TV:
>The Phantom Menace
>Attack of the Clones
>Revenge of the Sith
>A New Hope
>The Empire Strikes Back
>Return of the Jedi
>The Last Jedi
>The Rise of Skywalker
>Bladerunner
>THX1138
>Fanboys
>Spaced
>Gremlins
>Death Note
>Lord of the Rings
>The Spongebob Squarepants Movie
>Breaking Bad
Videogames:
>Lego Star Wars
RUclips Videos:
>Red Letter Media's Plinkett Reviews for Star Wars episodes 1, 2, and 3.
>Darth Jar Jar - Star Wars Theory by Vincent Vendetta
>Every Time Star Wars Quotes Other Movies 3.0 by Rick Worley.
>"The Star Wars Prequels Still Suck" by The Amazing Atheist.
>Why Does the Podracing Scene Look So Realistic After 20+ years? by CGY
>The Surprising Practical Effects of the Star Wars Prequels by Not Exactly Normal
>The Parade at the End of Star Wars Episode 1 is the Emperor's Theme in Major Key by Darth Triulus
Thank you for making it. The minute I saw it in my feed I was like I have to subscribe to this guy. And of course I was already subbed.
Imagine getting mad at Jar Jar and being fine with the Ewoks
Dawg the sarlacc pit sequence has slapstick with boba fett having all his attacks get accidentally countered, then gets mistakenly taken out by a blind Han Solo and falls into the pit that burps.
Endor also had plenty moments where Han especially would drop quips even when under fire from the storm troopers, the speeder bike scene uses the gag of having the bad guy character not paying attention and crashing into a tree. Jar Jar was never a problem.
The original trilogy had a cool setting for people to write stuff in.
The prequel trilogy had a cool, even more fantasy-oriented, setting for people to write stuff in.
They’re great, because writers made them great. I personally prefer anything that Disney didn’t make, except maybe a few animations
I wanna make something clear that very few people, including prequel defenders, seem to understand. Midichlorians are NOT the Force. They are two separate things. Midis are cells that allow living beings to understand what the Force is trying to tell us. Qui-Gon even says this the moment they’re introduced.
I don’t understand why EVERYONE glosses over this. The Force is still mystical
Fair point
People just want to hate on the prequels without fully understanding them
YES
I always liked the midichlorians. It's like they condense the essence of the Star Wars universe: half fantasy and half sci-fi.
Finally someone gets it.
We are seeing the formation of a new boomer fight....
Perhaps
seriously looking forward to "2020's - Testing decade"
its easy to say plinkett was wrong looking back at it all these years later. We only had the og trilogy to compare it to. when you compare the prequels to all the star wars content we have gotten since, the prequel trilogy is a masterpiece in comparison. culture and expectations have changed drastically over the past 25 years. I think plinketts reviews bring up a lot of good points the prequels were not masterpiece cinema by any means. they are flawed treasures. and lets face it, the plinkett reviews are comedic in nature. its aim was to be more harsh on the series than a normal review would have been
Yeah, but I hate the whole "comedy is immune to criticism" thing. He clearly has a bitter attitude towards Lucas and a rather immature view on things. Him masking it in humour shouldn't end the discussion. It should also be noted that Plinkett suggested JJ Abrams direct Star Wars. So Plinkett got what he wanted, and the Disney Trilogy was the result. Plinkett genuinely misunderstood the prequels. It's not that the prequels are flawless, but that his very idea of what it should have been is flawed to begin with. The perspective he criticizes from is wrong. If he were in charge of The Phantom Menace, it would have been The Force Awakens.
@@whatsinameme5258 Truth. We’ve seen what kind of movies result from the plinkett approach, and it’s not pretty.
@@whatsinameme5258 that was I didn't like about his videos; I agreed with many points, but you could feel the bitterness and he masked it in part with 'comedy' and 'irony'. Many points stand while others were weak to begin with.
Who are these people to tell Lucas what his story is supposed to be?
Exactly
The prequels are perfect just the way they are.
my only problem with the prequels, after much reflection, is that general grievous is much less cool in the film than he was when he debuted in the 2003 tartakovsky animated short films.
If you don't like the prequels because they are too different from the originals, then don't worry. The sequel trilogy will always be there to give you the photocopy imitation of the originals you always wanted.
I'd honestly feel better if RLM admitted to being Trekkies, preferring Star Trek over Star Wars. That way, it makes more sense why their Star Wars reviews aren't as good because they aren't as invested in the series as much as they are with Star Trek. As it is, I think their takes on Star Wars and their reviews are some of the worst critiques I've seen about Star Wars, filled to the brim with strawmen, poorly researched criticisms, false allegations and a whole lot of fan whinging that doesn't amount to anything than an entitled fan not getting what they want.
Personally, I'm indifferent about Red Letter Media. I don't think they're bad as Anomaly Inc makes them out to be, yet I don't think they're as good as Mauler, Drinker or Nerdrotic make them out to be. Sometimes they make good observations about the culture, like the whole "Don't ask questions. Just consume product and be excited for next product" and the "LOYALTY TO DISNEY. LOYALTY TO THE BRAND" comments. Yet when I watch their Star Wars critiques, I'm often asking myself "Guys, did you even watch the same movie as me? You missed this, this and this points."
As it is, I think they're extremely overrated and I think the latest slate of RUclips critics who were fans or inspired by RLM (like the before mentioned Mauler, Drinker or Nerdrotic) have managed to be more entertaining and informative than these guys in much the same way how Anomaly Inc has surpassed his inspiration, Chris Stuckman.
In short, RLM sucks at critiquing Star Wars. Stop pretending you guys know Star Wars better than the people you look down on like the prequel fans or even George Lucas himself.
It's refreshing to see a a great nuanced take. RLM are at their best when they are doing comedy skits and making fun of people. Nerd Crew and Best of the Worst are the highlight of their channel, because they aren't doing anything serious, they are just joking around. However with Half in the Bag and the Plinkett reviews, they are quite awful a lot of the time. People take those reviews seriously. It's astonishing that people treat Plinkett as if he is the best reviewer of all time, when his reviews are about as deep as a cross between Cinema Sins nitpicks and Nostalgia Critic skits. Those reviews are really shallow. I think RLM just likes to make funny short films. Much like the Angry Video Game Nerd. I think many like the Plinkett Reviews for the same reason people like those Angry Video Game Nerd videos. Watching The Nerd take a dump on a game, is much the same as watching Plinkett pee on a copy of the Phantom Menace. The difference is, no one treats the Angry Video Game Nerd as if he is a genuine game reviewer. But people treat Plinkett as if his review of the Prequels is some sacred text. I honestly think the only reason people think the review is deep, is because its long. At least for the time it was released. Over a decade later, Mauler makes ten times longer reviews and they don't even have skits devouring the runtime. Mauler does critique much better. I have issues with Mauler too, but he is much more intellectually honest then RLM. I'd be curious to see EFAP try to tear apart my video.
One is literally the hero’s journey and the other is a greek tragedy* (corrected) and origin story of the empire
How could someone say they failed at doing something they didn’t even try? They did the opposite instead
It makes so much more sense to look at the prequels as a greek tragedy (protag/hero succumbs to his own fatal flaw). It's just not the same kind of story as the very archetypal hero's journey of Luke's trilogy
@@Dutchman451
I was about to say it. The OT is the hero's journey in a fairy tale. The PT is the hero's downfall in a Greek tragedy.
Mr. Plenkett when a romcom exist (Walter White falling gif here)
Plinkett when children exist
@@whatsinameme5258Plinkett is a character, and Mike Stoklasa designed him in a way that he can never be left around children.
@@autobotstarscream765 I wouldn't let Mike babysit either
@@thelippyserver58 Mike would melt their toys to control them.
I just find that "Plinkett" really makes no true argument as to why the Prequels are bad, he just rants the whole time. I'm not sure that he makes five good points the entire series.
The weakest points of the prequels to me are A) They are visually ugly (I'm a zoomer, by the way). Even though The Phantom Menace uses a lot of practical effects, all three movies look very reliant on dated late-90s/early 2000s CGI. As a result, something feels "off," and the films are not very pretty to look at. Even Ewan McGregor felt that the experience of shooting the movies was not great, being surrounded by blue screens all the time. And B) The acting feels very stiff, like in a play and not like a movie (expect McGregor at times). Mark Hamill has said that George Lucas is not great at communicating with actors, which possibly explains why A New Hope and the Prequels have some unnatural acting.
Perhaps if these two elements were fixed, it would improve the movies considerably. To me, the prequels are interesting in theory, but the execution was not the strongest. I think 70s George Lucas would have pulled it off flawlessly, but 90s George Lucas was a bit rusty as a director (he didn't direct a movie for 20 years before Phantom Menace).
Interestingly enough, George never intended to direct any of the Prequels. He wanted to approch the trilogy much in the same with Episodes V and VI. Being that he wanted someone else to direct the films for him, while he served as producer and story consultant to help get his vision across. George was very much put off directing after the total nightmare he went through when making the first Star Wars movie. That's why basically everything he worked on up until the Phantom Menace and the later two films, was as a producer. Lucas however was unable to find anyone willing to take on the job of directing Episode I, despite approching both Ron Howard and even his own personal friend Steven Spielberg. From what I've heard, it was actually his friends that encourged George to write and direct the film himself, reasoning that it was his vision at the end of the day and he should try and make it the way he wanted it.
"to me" Everything you say after this is irrelevant.
The prequels had a great plot with flawed execution, the original trilogy had a great plot with great execution, the sequels had an awful plot and terrible execution. In theory you could remake the prequels with some changes and they'd be nearly as or as good as the OT. With the sequels, there's nothing that can redeem them, you'd have to tell a completely different story for it to work.
I agree that the phantom menace and attack of the clones had good plots with bad execution, but revenge of the sith is the exact opposite. Anakin's turn to the dark side is so incredibly contrived and silly that i fail to see how that specific plot could actually be executed in a better way.
@@JohnM-cd4ouAs the Mr. Plinkket said “He didn't fall to the Dark Side, he was tricked.”
I'd downgrade OT to good plot with great execution. It's a very by-the-books story, which I'm not holding against it at all
@@BlueGamingRageI agree, the plot of the original star was wasn't really groundbreaking but the exception was masterpiece
@@JohnM-cd4ou its easy to say shit when u have hindsight can u stfu
As a Gen X myself I have to admit that my evaluation of the prequels has pretty radically shifted as I’ve gotten older. I used to absolutely hate them but now I quite like them, especially episode 1.
Your logic is flawed. Just because movies are getting worse, doesn't make the prequels better movies, they can't be moved from a 6 rating to an 8. They are less terrible by comparison because most modern movies are now a 4.
@ my… logic? It’s not an argument, it’s an opinion.
My personal tastes have shifted overtime and I enjoy the prequels now more than I did when they first came out.
@@Dram1984 Settle down. Your person logic led you at one time to end at one conclusion. Movie's X + Y * Z = Bad/Not Good. Something like time and other movies have altered your personal logic. It has mine.
To reply to the two guys at around 1:40, technically the original back story we were promised was one of darth and anakin being two different people, but if I'm able to ill just make that version of episode 3 myself with a.i. like anyone will be able to in tenish years
I saw the OT first then the Prequels second, each time one after the other came out. I always thought they were good movies. All 6 of them. However, impossible expectations and standards were set and upheld by certain fanatics of the OT. They were butt-hurt that these films didn’t turn out the way they envisioned them plain and simple. Most people I knew growing up; adults and kids alike liked these films. I never understood why so much people had to be toxically acerbic about it.
What I always appreciated about the prequels is that they tell a different story than the originals but they still have similar storytelling. I always felt they were half the same and half different. Glad to see more people noticing this.
I’ve always loved the art and designs that the prequels had and it’s so sad to hear people describe it as “it looks shitty and fake”
Yes 100%
Yes. It only becomes a problem when the EU adopted its design method and applied it to the older and ancient eras of the world, but that’s the EU’s fault, not the PT.
i can only here Desmond from smiling friends when I here plinket 💀
Because it’s the same guy
I gathered the opposite meaning from the Darth Jar Jar meme, that it represents how treating George Lucas as a demonic monster blaspheming the holy scripture of the Original Trilogy who can only create when controlled by others, if not by "the real creators" then by "the real fans" showing what mature and grown-up real men they were by throwing baby tantrums and harassing people, did nothing to help Star Wars and only hurt it in the long run by making Lucas's life so miserable that he gave in and gave the baby to the white slavers, which the anti-Lucas contingent cheered for until they didn't.
I like the idea of people telling Jar Jar, and ultimately through him George Lucas, "Perhaps we treated you too harshly."
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord! Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.", "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." and, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
I proudly say I always loved prequels and with time I appreciate them even more
Plinkett is still right about the prequels
What is this guy's speech pattern
Script-reading lol
Yeah, I couldn't really finish the video because of that.
I enjoy this guys videos, but I really hope he tries to adopt a more smooth cadence of speech
You get used to it.
People miss nuance in criticizing of Jar Jar. The droids were also used comedy, but they only complain about Jar Jar because his character wasn’t well used.
The R2 and 3PO are the trickster god and the blabber mouth respectively, they’re a good comedy duo and they’re essential for the story.
Jar Jar is the goof, but his use in the prequels is kinda bad. What plays a role is his actions is his stupidity, which doesn’t require the goof archetype; and they dont take much advantage of his goofiness outside of the comedic side of it (CW is a good example of his goofiness being used well on some episodes)… also he’s not a droid so he can’t carry holograms for people or pretend to be the golden god of the ewoks… He loses much of his agency after the first movie and then just shows up to give Sheev ultimate power (and then in comics proceeds to die depressed when the empire rises)
I'd argue they get some good use of the interactions between Jar Jar and Qui Gon. Qui Gon being annoyed by him constantly, but kinda being stuck with him. But I agree it's not as good as the C3PO/R2D2 dynamic.
This. Hal-ting, way. Of speaking is. Jarr-ing, and, doesn't, make, for a good. Viewing, experience.
Al. So. You fill a, lot, of, the, vi-deo with stuff that, is. Just. Like, your opinion. Man.
I think George himself stated that Midichlorians and the Force aren't one and the same. The Force itself merely has a symbiotic relationship with them that it uses as a way to speak through. I think he mainly introduced it as a way of trying to explain why certain are capable of using the Force while others can't despite existing everywhere. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of the Midichlorians, but I do think people go way overboard on the quote on quote ''damage'' it does to the Force and overall misinterpret on what they actually are. It certainly never goes into how having a high bloodcount inables you to use all these crazy ass powers. In my opinion, Disney has done way worse damage with the Force, with half the plot hole destroying powers it's introduced that just makes you ask why these powers were never used in the previous films. If Rey is able to use the Force to heal injuries or Kylo able to use it to resurrect Rey back from death itself, why didn't Obi-Wan use this on Qui-Gon in Episode I? Why didn't Anakin use this on his mother in Attack of the Clones? Why didn't Luke use this to save his dying father in ROTJ? The Force in all of George's movies were shown to be able to do a lot of fantasic things, but it wasn't capable of doing everything. There was still clear limitations of what Jedi and Sith could and couldn't do with it.
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I fully agree with you but yeah, Plinket and pretty much anyone from RLM have a big hate boner for the prequels.
The whole "there was no main character thing" really drove me up the wall because it was an ensemble cast type of movie where everyone was playing off each other in a believable way.
I always felt the "Phantom Menace" reffered to Palpatine scheme in the background.
Something I personally find compelling is that the Prequels hit a lot harder for me as I grow older, I'm an older millennial and i'm rediscovering my faith, and There is a video floating around on youtube about how Palpatine is essentially the devil and how he ensnares Anakin, the chosen one, and how compelling that is because evil wins in the end. People go on about how they love The Empire Stirkes Back and its dark tone, but the prequels have that feeling ten-fold, you see Anakin as a child and his fall from grace, everyone loves him, and it was even more heartbreaking when they had to put him down , even Obi-Wan cried out that he was his brother and loved him, like how can anyone not see that the prequels are pretty amazing pieces of art.
I guess like I said this hits harder for me now because of my born again Christianity which i would NEVER admit to my friends because it is fashionably cringe or makes me a evil person for having faith at all. Palpatine is really compelling with how he plants the seeds of doubt and reminds me a little of the Gen X'ers trying to gaslight the fans into thinking these movies were bad just because they weren't the same as the Original Trilogy.
Plinkett (Rich Evans or whoever , Mike? ) come off like the older gen-x'ers that hated the prequels that I had the misfortune of palling around when I was younger, who really hated anything that reminded them that they weren't the target audience / kids anymore, even right now we are going through that with video games , generational shifts happen and are normal, but it doesnt mean one has to hunker down and be bitter about it, embrace change and see it as means to grow as a better person.
I feel you were onto something when you mentioned that in your video , it isn't mean at all.
Interesting you mention this, as I both found spirituality and came to appreciate the prequels pretty much at the exact same time. I used to be an atheist, and I think it's no coincidence that there is an ENORMOUS overlap between prequel haters and atheist/"skeptic" types. I watched Amazing Atheist and Armored Skeptic back in the day, and they both despise the prequels. I wouldn't call myself a Christian, but there are definitely religious elements in the prequels, and I think that triggers these types of people. The prequels have Biblical/Greek Tragedy qualities to them.
@@whatsinameme5258 I can relate to that, as earlier in my 20s I was chaotic and unhinged, so I do really relate to what you are saying.
The prequels are super important to me these days as they have sort of a tragedy to them that can be applied to one's own life to just not take things for granted and have faith in one another to have things work out for the best.
your video really touched me on a level I wasn't expecting, I was feeling similar things but you put it into words that make it all just click.
In a way I am just reading the bible and taking what I can to apply to my life in a way to do better as a person and as a man I need to be to support my love ones through the tough times. So in a sense I'm not sure what I am either.
@@JohnAGalvanArt That's super awesome. I hear you, the world is in a precarious situation. I recently became a father, so I'm pretty concerned about the world my son is gonna grow up in. I must confess, I reacted similarly to Anakin when I first heard news of the pregnancy. Its funny, because everyone said Anakin's reaction was strange and made fun of it, but its actually pretty accurate. The prospect of fatherhood during a sort of civilizational collapse, is one that that leaves one ambivalent and looking confused. Just goes to show that comedy and tragedy are two sides of the same coin. It's comedy when its someone else suffering, but when its you, you understand the tragedy. Its why the prequels are so funny. But it's also deep when you start to feel how real it is.
I thank God for seeing a believer of the only Truth that is the One and Only God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit here! It's a comfort. Jesus is Lord!
@@whatsinameme5258 PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord! Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.", "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." and, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
Vast majority of my favourite films come from 80's and early 90's but it didn't prevent me from enjoying Prequel Trilogy when I first saw it. I was really surprised when I found out how much criticism those films got.
Absolutely fantastic video! The prequels are indeed excellent & the most wrongly hated films of all time. This video is going on my "The Prequels Are Good" playlist!
Awesome, glad to hear!
Bro how can anyone take Mr Plinkett seriously when he looks like that, it looks like he's supposed to be parodying reviewers who hate modern star wars except he's serious
So glad that with the help of content creators like you and JJ plagiarisms, the prequels are finally undergoing their long deserved resurrection. I just hope and pray that these videos gain more traction, and that maybe someday our sentiments of prequel love will even reach George Lucas. We are sorry for the hate you received from our predecessors George, but the people you truly made the movies for have come of age and WE love them. ❤️
A well conceived video. I can see there's no fooling you. I was one of those who adored both trilogies at the time and considered them as a cohesive whole as intended. I watched the additional behind the scenes footages several times and directors commentary for deeper insight that solidified my devotion to it. All these years later, even after seeing Plinkett's reviews, my opinion of them has never waivered.
Prequels made the star wars universe lore more interesting, there are few awesome scenes (mainly Palpatine, Maul and Obi wan moments), but man, some dialog moments are still cringe, even if I love the memes that came out of it. And don't make me started on silly very dated green screen scenes.
That being said, without prequels we would not get awesome games like Knights of the old republic, and bunch of awesome Sith lore books (darth Plagueis, exc.)
PS. Disney will never be true Canon!
Why do you... pause after... every few.... words?... Would be interested... in watching it... if you... did not do this... constantly.
I like the pauses shut up
It's giving "read this out loud for the class" energy 😂
He's...talking...like...Plinkett... 😂
I normally have to slow down a video because everyone talks way too fast. This is the first time I've had to speed up a video.
the main character of TPM is Quigon. he's the guy we primarily follow through the film, though there are a number of characters you could say also fit tge bill.
but Quigon's the main guy.
I feel like the Prequel is more of Obi Wan's story. He's the most proactive character throughout the trilogy, always the one making his stand but getting wiser each time.
Qui gon jinn is probably my favorite star wars character after darth vader
Hi, PLinkett audience here. Love the prequels since I was a kid. Still love them. Plinkett reviews are hilarious and no less true still xD
I personally couldn’t argue that these movies stand on their own because I grew up with them and always been a fan. Although I do prefer the stuff that came out of them, even if they suck most often than not, which is fine, they’re not the movies anyway… except when Disney decided to make new movies that added nothing new to the setting. It failed on the front that the other 6 excel at: Fantasy (we literally call them space wizards, it’s LotR in space. It could’ve just been forgotten in time like other good fantasy out there, but it did something unique and had the money to back it up. It’ll forever be massive part of the fantasy genre because of that). But the plot and writing is also weird. They *can* make movies and series that don’t suck even if they add nothing new and break with original canon… but they failed, on the *sequel to Star Wars!* because they wanted money.
Then there’s KOTOR, which isn’t perfect but is pretty close
The prequels were always good. 👍
Thanks this was great ❤I love Star Trek!
Plinkett just annoys me.
I do like lots of things about the prequels, especially compared to the newer ones, but I think it's dumb to characterize people not liking the trilogy as macho gen x meatheads that don't like anything emotionally complex or sensitive. Sure when they compare it to the originals, it might come across like prequels haters exclusively watch 80s action blockbusters, but I'm pretty sure they do like a lot of things that are more experimental from that. Like mike and jay from rlm have positively reviewed a lot of movies that deviate from their favorite movies' formula. They just don't like the prequels cause it's just a poorly written and directed attempt at experimentation. You probably hate st anger, but it's not cause you "don't get it" it just sucks unlike good experimental music like mr bungle's stuff.
A better analogy for Plinkett and Co. however, would be if someone said that 100 Gecs or Dillinger Escape Plan are bad because they don't sound like ACDC. As in they aren't even attacking it on the correct grounds. These bands never even tried to sound like ACDC in the first place. Even if you think these bands sound awful, they didn't "fail" to be ACDC. I don't like St Anger, but I don't make an hour long review step by step comparing it to Master of Puppets and how it "failed" to be that. Metallica clearly weren't trying to make Master of Puppets, they were experimenting. So the very basis of that analysis would be flawed.
I think that's a valid point, cause there probably are a decent amount of haters that just wanted a rehash of the original. But in my experience, most of the criticisms people usually have is that it's just a poor attempt at doing something different. The rlm guys for example whave praised more experimental movies, including stuff like drive that does something different in the context of a hollywood action flick like the prequels. You clearly like the movies but you can at least see why someone would find george lucas's go at a moodier, darker tone just ends up unintentionally funny, boring, pretentious, etc. I agree that the video compares two different things too much but most of the criticisms do have to do with the actual writing imo. I just disagree framing it like that's people's main critique, and not just a minor problem in the video's script. Plus the prequels still aim to be epic space adventures but just slightly darker, not something as different as blade runner. It's like comparing red apples to green apples, not oranges.
I personally don't have a dog in the fight: I watched all six as a child but have no emotional tether that goes deep. What I got out of watching Plinket's review as a teenager was a fructifying insight into storytelling analysis. However, you make lot of good points in defence of the prequels.
I have never recalled those nuances of the main characters. I do recall the style of acting being very... not colourful. But there is cheesy acting in the originals also.
You explain perfectly why Qui Gon is probably the greatest Jedi. Couldn't agree more
That segment where Plinkett asks people to describe various characters was particularly insidious. I found that very compelling and persuasive. It was essentially what convinced me the prequels were bad. Had I known they were his friends and this interaction was staged, I would not have found it compelling.
Do you disregard your friends' opinions because you know them?
@@M2Mil7er I do not, but most of my friends share my social and political leanings, and as an honest person, if I wanted to convince people of something I believed, I wouldn't stage an interview with people that agreed with me, and pass it off as a random sampling of opinions. I'd either try to get a good sampling of opinions on the topic, or I'd notify the audience that these are my friends and thus take it with a grain of salt.
Nowadays it is very clear that anyone can stage fake "random opinions" on RUclips but back then this social media stuff was at its beginning.
It makes no difference that they know each other. It wasn't "staged" in the sense that it was scripted. They didn't know what they were going to be asked and they weren't given predetermined responses. They gave spontaneous answers on the spot. Unless you have evidence to the contrary?
@@19jez89 it makes a huge difference that they're friends. They are frequent guests on his (or is it their?) channel. They share a channel because they share interests and views. This is akin to that time that Rachel Maddow was called "unreasonable" by her detractors and so she put a poll on her own website that found that over 80% of people thought she was being reasonable.
I think plinklett reviews arent supposed to be taken too seriously but I will say as a GenZer that didnt watch the Star Wars films as a kid, and have no nostalgia attached to them,(only played the games) the prequels arent that great except episode 3. Although they did have some good ideas and introduced some really cool stuff that I love like the droids, darth maul, general Grievous, the clones and more. Imo ep 1 is ok, ep 2 sucks and I hated the romance between Anakin and Padme, and EP 3 is really solid even if it some hilarious dialogue (UNLIMITED POWERR!!! lol). So for me I think Ep5 is the best and the prequels are not as good as the originals. Atleast the prequels arent as bad as ep 7-9 lol 😅
I don't see the "Unlimited Power" line as bad, just funny. Palpatine is a campy villain. Thats perfectly fine. I love him for it. People forget how cheesy the original trilogy is too. Whenever they cut back to the Death Star, the music goes "Dun, dun dun, duuuuuun". It might as well have a flash of lightning and narration saying "Meanwhile at the villains lair". I don't see why the OG Star Wars gets a free pass on it's camp, but when the prequels do it, its bad writing, bad acting, bad directing, etc.
@whatsinameme5258 ah I hope It didn't come across as me saying that line was bad. I also think "Unlimited power" is hilarious and memorable, and I like how goofy it is. Thanks for responding I enjoyed your video!
@@Chewy00 My bad, just used to the negative comments. Glad you liked the video
what your opinion on the "I may have gone too far in a few places" quote from george lucas
It's a good meme. I didn't really criticize Plinkett's take on the "Ending Multiplication Effect" because he may have had a point there. The four things going on at the same time at the end of Episode 1 is a bit much. I think it works fine for a little kids, as they have low attention spans, so the variety might be good in that case, but it is rather chaotic still. I don't think it ruins the movie, but it was the right call to have more focused endings in the following two films. It seems to me Lucas was showing regret for the way the ending was handled, but Plinkett uses that quote to make Lucas sound dumb, or that he was regretting the entire movie, which I don't think is the case.
C3PO really is a nag, isn't he?
Absolutely loved this video and agree 100%. You story of watching the Plinkett reviews and then coming to fully, abashedly own loving the Prequels is literally me too. Would love to see videos taking on his Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith reviews!
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks that Plinkett is completely wrong about Star Wars. He’s worse than a lot of boomers with his opinions.
Well, you've definitely earned my subscription! Such a fun takedown of the awful anti prequel/Lucas talking points I still hear about. I am completely on board with how you view this trilogy, it really was the high point for Star Wars, it's such a shame people couldn't realize it, and it's sad to know how far it's fallen under Disney. At least we can always go back to Lucas's Saga.
I also love how you also contest the arguments that The Clone Wars or other media fixes the films. I'd argue that there are actually a few contradictions between the two.
Yes, if anything it can add more issues. Besides, Plinkett says a few times in his review to not counter him with such reasoning, so I didn't want to be so easily dismissed as the guy going "Acshually, in 850 BBY..."
No one wanted Empire Strikes Back again. Strawman bullshit. /dropped....
Okay now this is based. I marathoned the entire original plinket videos on star wars and it skewed my opinion for years. Until like you I came to the conclusion that even if it was supposed to be "comedy"
Plinket and whoever made it is just a jaded genX boomer and that the prequels were certainly BASED
Another banger good sir 👍👍
Nah they're objectively bad movies you like because you saw them as a young kid. Sorry.
@@matturner6890 hi plinkett 👍
@@VARVIS_ Doesn't matter if I'm him or not, I speak the truth. You got tricked by the pod-race scene and the lightsaber battles when you were like 8 or 10 or whatever, and it gave you a bias toward prequel-apologia. You might enjoy them, but they stink.
@@matturner6890 👍👍
@@matturner6890 Liking awesome scenes equals "getting tricked". Lol
I love this channel man. I honestly have the boomer opinion still that I don’t really like the prequels as much as the originals but the writing on this video was great enough to keep me entertained for the full hour, props man🥂
I’m glad George made the prequel trilogy the way he did, so corpo Disney would be too afraid to replicate it
Great video bravo 43:19 if he wants to be like that yes the duel is about the character more specifically about the fate of Anakin which is why the song that is played is called Duel of the Fates
That too.
Last summer I had a friend who was OBSESSED with Mr. Plinkett, specifically the reviews on the prequels. He was dead set that not only were they “funny”, but also informative and factual. I tried to tell him that those videos were just garbage, but homie was glued to the videos.
Love this video.
I was similar to that about a decade ago. There's hope for him yet.
About the CGI part, I fully agree, practical and CGI are tools that can work great or be misused. Even older, less realistic CGI has a lot of charm, it's really cool to see the 3D animations they made between the 70's and early 2000's. Also I own the same Silicon Graphics keyboard (typing this with it) and monitor that is shown in the Episode I behinds the scenes video, we gotta appreciate the pioneers.
It is absolutely awful that some ot fans sent death threats to Ahmed Bess
I love your videos man, massively underappreciated channel.
Thank you!
They were definitely experimental. He used the prequels as an engine to test new technology. He wanted to perfect it and make it cheaper so other companies can use it for their movies.
I always appreciated the mystic qualities of the main Jedi characters. Varied but always trying to get in touch with their individual connections to the Force and others at a more fundamental level...zen like.
I think one of the reasons there was so much angst over midichlorians as an explanation of the Force is actually fairly simple. In a galaxy with hyperspace engines, planet annihilating weapons, laser swords - in other words vast technologies - why wasn't there a technology applied to everyday use of something that exists everywhere? It's like trying to have civilisation today without using water. We know about water, it's plentiful, it looks useful, but only a few highly trained individuals get to access it and use it to any degree. It just seems to be a cop out. Leave the Force mystical and mysterious instead of measured and everyday. But that's just my opinion.
I like the prequels, but hearing you compare them to blade runner makes me gag.
I like both, I get where he's coming from, but they are apples and oranges. Similar in some ways and different in others.
I've always like the prequels more, not for the corny humor or edginess or anything in particular. I think they're all around just better than Hero's Journey in Space. The original trilogy was great, but it just doesn't seem consistently as compelling to me. I'm more of a fan of classic tragedies anyway, so there's my bias
Revenge of the Sith is my favourite Star Wars film.
Mine too
The ending was too rushed.
Same. I don't think it's the best one, but it is my favorite.
@@hugocastilla3102 What do you think is the best one?
@@whatsinameme5258 oh. ESB
plinkett thinks that nobody challenged george lucas on set and that he only made the prequels to make money? what the fuck am i hearing
Yeah, I find that particularly hard to believe. Especially when Plinkett says that everyone was too intimidated and scared of Lucas to speak up. Lucas is a rather timid seeming man. I find it hard to believe people are terrified of a human version of Winnie the Pooh.
It’s actually so hilarious when you think about it that, actually, even Hayden questioned George‘s way of doing things, before being explained the differences of what people might expect/think of the prequels and what they really want to show and tell.
It definitely wasn't a soulless commercial endeavor. We got a good look at what a soulless cash-grab version of Star Wars was when JJ Abrams took the reins. I would say most of the criticisms about the prequels failing from a story-telling and logical consistency point of view have some merit. Lucas is a great filmmaker, but he worked best when he had people challenging him. The original concept of Luke being middle-aged wouldn't have worked. With the prequels he had a room of yes-men and they didn't push him for consistency in story and in his own canon. Phantom Menace came out when I was in grade school. I liked it and still do in terms of it being a satisfying adventure film. It's a lot campier than the original trilogy, and that's fine. I also liked John Carter for similar reasons. It could have been a lot better. I preferred Opie and Anthony when they were on terrestrial radio and had to work within the limitations of the FCC for similar reasons. They were a lot more creative when they had to work within the confines of a system.
Lol he forgot Plinkett did it for entertainment
But he didn't forget that that doesn't make him immune to criticism - especially if he misrepresented the films.
Everyone watching back in the day seemed to forget Plinkett was a character and the reviews were jokes, so now cleanup operations coming in years after the fact have to humor them with the dignity of serious arguments out of respect for their influence despite the end result being sledgehammer meets drywall.
"Anyone who tries to make a distinction between education and entertainment doesn't know the first thing about either." - Marshall McLuhan
Plinkett is taken by many people as the Holy Bible to criticise the prequels.
Now we know that ai prefers prequels
I mean is Plinkett's voice any better? At least I enunciate clearly.
@@whatsinameme5258 sorry, I don't remember racial slur used to address droids in star wars so I can't properly reply to your comment
@@whatsinameme5258 Both are hilarious. You were doing a bit, right? The Siri, do a youtube critic Tron 3000 on Ambien thing has to be intentional, yes?
Somebody had to say it.
FINALLY, someone took the words out of my mouth about the prequels! Are the prequels absolute masterpieces with no flaws? Absolutely not, they have glaring flaws primarily with the dialogue (IMO). However, are they creative? Experimental? Unique? At many times entertaining? YES! While I still prefer the OG trilogy I am grateful that I grew up with the prequels vs the sequels simply for the fact that it felt like it had real genuine love put into it. Risks were taken with these movies and despite many of them falling flat with audiences it at least wasn't just a rehash of an already popular trilogy or a half assed story they felt like actual MOVIES. I hate that it took a huge backlash against Disney to make people appreciate the prequels more. I wanted to like the sequels but I just couldn't see past their glaring flaws like I could the prequels as they lacked the clear vision and soul that George had when he still ran the franchise. If you like the sequels that's fine I just feel like everything that George Lucas was accused of by only caring about the money, pandering to kids etc. just falls flat when compared to Disney who has been blatantly guilty of this. Despite everything I still love Star Wars and always will and with a universe as massive and deep as SW there will always be a chance to tell a great story within it for both adults and kids.
Yes, the sequels are guilty of what Plinkett accuses and them some. Yet Plinkett doubled down in his Force Awakens review. Basically just used that review to talk trash about the prequels even more. He really can't get over his George Lucas hate obsession.
I’m 10 seconds into the video and I’m already shaking my head…These movies are awful. The acting is pedestrian. The camera work is lazy. The CGI is ubiquitous and has aged poorly. They’re not fully without merit, but they are not good films…hard stop.
"Is" wrong? Nah, that implies a present a context, but those videos came out a decade and a half ago.
He still thinks the same thing. Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary. I watched an episode of "Best of The Worst" a few months back, just to see what Red Letter Media is up to these days. It was a video completely unrelated to Star Wars, yet Mike Stoklasa had a 5 minute rant about George Lucas in that video. He is still seething about the Prequels. I highly doubt he's changed his mind. If anything, he'd probably double down if pressed on it.
Prequels are superior. Unfortunately my arthritis is acting up so I can't post a long essay why I love this video but I love this video.
if Plinkett is WRONG about STAR WARS, why do the Prequel sucks ? I think Anakin should be an teen or adult
Many share your sentiment. I covered the hate of children in Star Wars in the Jar Jar segment.
@@whatsinameme5258 are they good ?
I think I see your point. We (the 80's generation) are from the past looking forward to a new franchise but you are in the present looking at right now. And that Lucas was actually successful at launching said franchise because he didn't add to an already existing franchise. Which then allows the new audience to see it as something in and of itself. I think that is a fair perspective and I could not argue with it, given my age.
From our generation's perspective, we see it as Lucas' calculated formula that he used to plug a hole where the prequels fit. There was excessive backstory on inconsequential characters and it was very indulgent. Boba Fett is a a cool character and all, but I didn't really care about his childhood. In fact, it actually spoils it because I didn't want to know. It just sort of spoils the illusion that episodes IV, V and VI created. And isn't that what fantasy is all about?
Always has been.
I don't think people dislike Jar-Jar because they are man-children. I think they dislike him because it's weird to have poop and fart jokes in the same movie where a guy murders a bunch of children in cold blood.
Usually people who defend this kind of stuff use the same argumentative technique though, i.e., "It's a childrens' film when it supports my argument, but not when it doesn't."
There weren't any poop and fart jokes in Revenge of the Sith. And Jar Jar was barely in that one. What are you smoking? Cause I want some. 😂
Episode 1 and 3 are different movies. You'll notice there is a gradual transition to these films. Phantom Menace is childish: Jar Jar and Little Kid Anakin. Clones is Teenager-like: Awkward Romance, lots of action/mystery. And Revenge is more adult: The gravity of the political situation is revealed and people have to deal with death. So yes the prequels are both children's movies and not at the same time. It's as if you "grow up" alongside the movies. One detail I like is that in The Phantom Menace, the droids sound cold and threatening, whereas by Revenge of the Sith, the droids sound like silly cartoon characters. It's as if we are growing with Anakin. Little kid Anakin would be scared of these droids, whereas adult Jedi Anakin no longer fears them, and treats them like a joke. They are coming of age movies, in a way.
@@whatsinameme5258 you said to treat as if they were the same movie, but different acts
@whatsinameme5258 also harry Potter did the same thing (begin from the perspective of a child and gradually get more serious) but had the common sense not to culminate in the equivalent of a school shooting. And the first few HP movies are quite silly but are still enjoyed by millennials and Gen X.
@@OmnislashVII Bad Comparison. There was nothing preceding Harry Potter, so that's why they didn't get backlash. For example, The Hobbit Trilogy was also hated, because it was a childish series that followed up the "gritty and manly" Lord of the Rings. Of course an original IP would not receive the same scrutiny as the prequels or the hobbit movies. And if Harry Potter is upheld as a template as to what the prequels should have been, then am I ever glad you weren't in charge of the prequels. LOL. Maybe they would've been more popular at the time if they were more like Harry Potter, but they would be less interesting and age poorer.
I loved the prequels since I saw them as a kid before the og trilogy
While I wholeheartedly agree with most of this video's main points, I also find it amazing to see how much public opinion has improved on the prequels now that the kids that grew up with them have come of age and are now setting the public opinion. I wonder if in twenty years from now, Gen Z and Gen Alpha kids will be arguing that the Sequel Trilogy and the 4,956 subsequent works in the Disney-Marvel-Star Wars Spiderverse are better than anything Lucas ever produced.
Nope, the prequels are still boring. I'm 25, definitely not a boomer by any sense, but when I watch the prequels I'm still bored to tears by the wooden, stiff, dialogue and flat shot composition that looks closer to a Lifetime TV show than a blockbuster film. The CGI is impressive for the time, but when you don't care or don't feel the stakes for why all these grand space battles are happening, my eyes start to glaze over and I feel the need to take a nap. I don't hate the prequels, I never have, I mainly feel apathy towards them. People contorting themselves into pretzels trying to prop the prequels up as great films because of how bad the DIsney sequels are comes off as incredibly emotional and simply defending something you liked as a kid. Which is fine, just say you liked it as a kid, you liked the Star Wars toys and be honest about it.
You realize subjectivity exists? All because you find something boring doesn't make it objectively bad. I find the originals boring
@@stupidclown4327 So just like... Should nobody ever review movies anymore? Nobody's allowed to voice their opinion about a movie? They made points you could've attempted to counter, but THIS is what you went with? Your opinion is just an opinion? Very insightful.
@@NyQuilDonut you can review movies if you want but your opinion isn't automatically objective. Plinkets reviews are full of flaws. His revenge of the Sith review in particular is horrible. He intentionally ignores the movies dialogue so he can nitpick. "why do they trust Palpatine when he's so evil looking" after Palpatine explains he's been scarred and deformed by a Jedi attack. There's countless other silly things he says in his reviews that I could go into if I had the time or cared enough
@@stupidclown4327 When did I ever say i was speaking from a position of objectivity? Because I didn't start my comment with "in my opinion..."? That's implied whenever someone makes a comment, it's their opinion, otherwise I wouldn't be saying it. Again, you can just say you enjoyed the movies because you liked them as a kid, that's perfectly fine. And I find the original trilogy pretty boring too, I don't like episode IV or VI, and only like V. So I'm not coming from a position of defending the originals. I think the prequels are boring and about as deep as a puddle. They have interesting ideas sure, but I think the best thing ever done with prequel ideas was the 2003 Clone Wars animated series personally.
@@stupidclown4327 Umm ok, nobody said anything about their opinion being objective except for YOU. Also, yeah, no review is perfect. Doesn't make the prequels good movies though lol.
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I mean that with Respect
Midichlorians are bad though. They could’ve just said “force sensitivity” and had anakin think really hard so the device could measure it. People in fandom use force-sensitivity and force-ability distinctly, meaning one could have it easy but still never be able to fly 3 lightsabers at once, due to talent or wisdom.
It breaks with fantasy and sprinkles in sci-fi unnecessarily. The fans would do that to blasters and lightsabers anyway, ik ik, but the movie itself doing that has a lot more impact of how people see the force (I again point out the weird sht that KOTOR did with the force to exemplify. Even if none of it appears elsewhere, it’s consistent with the only element of the force that matters -“comes from and connects all living beings”- while doing whatever it wants with it)
Maybe. But I think it makes more sense for Palpatine persuading Anakin in ROTS though, to have the force be a concrete thing like midi-chlorians, so that the miracle cure for Padme seems like a recipe that can be concocted scientifically. That Anakin could essentially "Play God". Ironically, Padme's death was beyond science, or at least the doctor droids understanding.
@@whatsinameme5258 it could’ve been concrete still, but in a different way: “weaving the connections of the force to create life” just like a story about alchemy or witchcraft. Anakin was a jedi, we’ve seen the force being used, so it wouldn’t feel less concrete. No one would question seeing a jedi trying to move the insides of a person to stop their bleeding without even touching them. We were never told exactly how Plagueis did it, he just told us it was (we could’ve even had a scene of sith using the force to do more than trickery, divination or acrobatic feats to reinforce this “corruption! manipulation of the fabric of reality”, which we only later had, with the lightning. But it could’ve been healing, enduring lethal pain or manipulating droids’ programming)
A small change to that dialogue and a little scene of a sith doing weird sith would’ve been enough or even improve the perception of the nature of the force. You might not even need a hole scene, just a gesture from Dooku or Maul that clearly indicates they’re using the force in a way they shouldn’t, but that also conveys that they could do more (the lightning doesn’t really do it all that well imo. But I’m obviously biased by hindsight. Force rage wasn’t a thing yet)
Star wars was always space FANTASY for me, Midichlorians ruins the mystique around force users, it reminds me of autistic need for explanations in other prequel franchises, like Alien (Prometheus, another movie that needlesly ruins the vibe of othervise Lovecraftian franchise, also James Hackeron reduced xenomorphs to dumb space bugs that are easily killed).
@@thischannelhasanameright1954 midichlorians don't explain the force. the phone isn't talking to you when you make a call.
tge force is on the other side of the midichlorians, they only let you interact with it; in the same way a phone let's you talk to someone on the other end.
After the original trilogy, The Phantom Menace is really only an adequate novie. As a kids' movie, Phantom Menace is not bad but it falls far short of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. Those two films gave audiences high expectations which, sadly, The Phantom Menace didn't meet. To make matters worse, sixteen years had passed since since Return of the Jedi allowing Star Wars to become a romantic part of our childhoods so nothing short of an amazing movie would do... and The Phantom Menace is not an amazing movie.
The prequels also didn't look and feel like Star Wars movies. We liked the battered old spaceships, the rusty robots, and the grimy "lived in" scenery of the original Star Wars movies. In contrast, the sleek spaceships, beautiful scenery, and dazzling technology in the prequels look dull and a bit fake. Also, in the 70s and 80s, good special effects were a big deal. A New Hope and ESB were revolutionary in the 1970s. By the 1990s, special effects in movies was no big deal anymore. In 1999, The Matrix was visually far more impressive than The Phantom Menace.
I don't dislike the prequels. They are okay. I'm just trying to give my Gen X perspective on the prequels
I don't agree with Plinkett's opinions much at all, but his video is still incredibly entertaining. Also, please make a video about Voivod :)
I did briefly mention them in my Technical Thrash Metal video. Haven't listened to a whole lot of them though. Any recommendations?
@@whatsinameme5258 The entirety of Nothingface is amazing. You may like Dimension Hateross more, though
I'm glad that you've grown as a person and that you see RLM were way too harsh in their criticisms. And I agree with your assessment of the PT in general. But I also like the ST and I could use the same criticisms against you for your dislike of them, and I could use the same defenses you use for the PT to defend the ST. I hope you can continue to grow as a person and someday in the future you can forgive the ST for the things you think are problems. Maybe after we get more context from other shows and movies... just like the Clone Wars did for the PT.
No, the sequels are actually bad. The Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker are literally soulless corporate committee movies. You could argue that The Last Jedi is different because it did have some sort of artistic vision, but it's themes are incoherent and contradictory. Not to mention just bad. These trilogies are not equivalent in the slightest, and that is not me being a hypocrite or a boomer. I would have been open to a new trilogy that was completely different from both the original trilogy and the prequels. Maybe whatever Lucas had planned with the "Whills" or whatever. I did not expect the sequels to give me more of the same. However, the Disney Star Wars are just fanfictions that feel like B Grade Marvel movies at best. This is a ridiculous false equivalence. But if you are sincere in your belief, I encourage you to make a similar video to mine, but in defense of the sequels. I'd be very curious to see that. Also, I literally said in the video that the prequels don't need to rely on the clone wars to be good. If you are trolling, congrats, you got me. If you are serious, take what I say here into consideration. You can like the Sequels, but they don't have the depth of the prequels.
@@whatsinameme5258 I"m not trolling. I also don't make videos. I'm old enough to have seen the original back in '78 right before the Kenner action figures came out. I saw the other two when they were released. I've seen them multiple times on VHS and on cable. I also watched the Special Editions several times each when they were released, and although I had some problems, I was able to overlook those and still enjoy them, and even enjoy some of the new stuff Lucas did. I don't hate CGI like so many do. And I loved each Prequel film and saw them each several times when they were released, even if I had some problems, including with Jar Jar that I was able to eventually overcome. Most of the problems we have come from within us. The biggest lesson to take away from SW is for all of us to take our arrogance and shove it deep up our ignorant asses. When I hear you criticize RLM, I hear the same criticisms I see for the ST. I can't stand RLM so we're in agreement there, but there are tons of vidoes out there defending the ST. If you want to watch any, or listen to any podcasts, seek them out. I recommend Star Wars Explained on RUclips, and the Force Center podcast, who are also on RUclips. There are many others, but they're pretty much at the top and do a very good job of defending the ST. Maybe your problems are within you. Keep growing as a person. I promise you, you'll discover new flaws about yourself as you age.
@@MeanMrMustard1 Just out of curiosity, is there some way a Star Wars trilogy could be bad in your view? Like, what would a Star Wars movie have to do to be unacceptable to you? Where would you draw the line? Are there any movies you consider to be bad? I apologize if I sound condescending, but if some one likes every Star Wars movie ever, it makes it seem as if there is no standard. Do you think the Star Wars Holiday Special is good? Genuine question.
@@whatsinameme5258 I think there is a liberal/conservative dichotomy among human beings, that's on a spectrum of course. Nothing is black and white EXCEPT scientific facts. Art is always subjective. ALWAYS. It's possible for a SW trilogy, or any single film to be bad. But I have faith the powers that be (not Disney execs, but instead Lucasfilm execs), who are all experienced in film making, and other areas of art, to gather talented enough people to get the job done in a satisfactory way. It's not gonna hit with everyone, but no one is trying to sabotage SW. These are artists and they are just trying to create what they want. Some will like it, and some won't. But there will always be detractors. There are anti-Disney people out there. They are extremely hard to please. They have always been there. And their arguments are nearly always in bad faith. They are biased. There are bad influencers out there, always arguing in bad faith, always crapping on everything, only caring about the clicks and the taps and the money. Sensationalism sells. Big giant headlines with big scary red arrows pointing at scapegoats that the influencers know their audience will attack work very well. It brings in money. It is disingenuous to ignore this. You have brought up a lot of this in your video while criticizing RLM, so you know what I'm talking about.
What I'm trying to say is the SAME EXACT thing is going on with the ST, and some of the shows, even though you disagree. I've heard all of the arguments against Disney SW and I can agree with some level headed fair criticism, but the hatred, the arrogance, the ignorance, is just stuff I dismiss the same way I've dismissed that kind of stuff when it was hurled at RotJ (Ewok hate, Lucas only caring about money), then the Special Editions, then the PT, then with the Clone Wars movie (Ahsoka hate).
I try to find something to like about everything I consume. It doesn't mean I blindly just accept everything. It is very unfair to label someone as just a shill, who has no standards, who can't see the flaws. The more realistic take is to accept that someone can see the flaws, but forgives them and finds something to like. Star Wars is about love, not hate. I see too many fans hating. I see too many fans ignoring the biggest lesson to learn: to take our arrogance and shove it deep up our ignorant asses. I see many fans think they are experts but don't know jack shit. I see a lot of the same hot takes stolen from bad influencers. I don't see any original thoughts or criticisms. It's the same old hateful, bigoted crap borne from arrogance and ignorance.
So going back to my view that there is a liberal/conservative dichotomy in humanity: there are people who are open minded, who understand, who try to be humble, who try to love, who are forgiving, and there are people who are closed minded, arrogant, ignorant, see everything as black and white, leave no room for nuance, are very judgmental. And of course there's a spectrum leading from left to right. No one is all the way to the left and no one is all the way to the right. In my opinion, the best way to live life is to learn from our mistakes, knowing that we'll never be perfect. Just keep growing as a person. Try to love instead of hate. I AM NOT seeing that from the critics of Disney SW. I DO see that from people who can find something to love about everything SW that comes out.
I have seen the Holiday Special several times over my lifetime, including when it first aired. I don't think it's great. I don't think it's the worse thing ever. It's closer to bad than it is good. But I've enjoyed it every single time I've seen it. There ARE things to enjoy about it besides the Boba Fett cartoon.
I don't see a hater in you, but I do see someone who is still growing. You have evolved your sensibilities about the PT. You have seen right through RLM and their shtick. What I'm asking you to do is consider that the same thing is going on with the ST and right now, you just can't see it, but maybe you just need something to get you to see it from a different point of view. Check out Star Wars Explained. Check out Force Center.
One thing I love to do is watch reaction videos of people watching the SW movies (all of them) for the first time. Yes, there are still many people who have never seen them. I have seen dozens and dozens of these videos. When these people get to the ST... they love them! They can't understand the hate, except they understand that they themselves do not have 40 plus years of baggage keeping them from enjoying them. And sometimes that's all that it is: older fans who simply can't accept something new and different (conservatism). So seek out some reaction videos. They're fun to watch. These people are not faking it. Okay, maybe some might turn up the acting dial just a bit because they know they're on camera, but many times their reactions are genuine. Go check them out.
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I don't care much for gremlins and I grew up with it. Not a great example to even compare the prequels with. The plinkett videos come off as almost satire of the mouth breathing, mainstream movie goer to me
Nostalgia influences both opinions obviously. When episode 1 came out it was the first time I ever remember that many grown men standing in line to see s kids movie. Normal gen x guys had forgotten star wars so to be angry about these mediocre movies is just a weird form of arrested development. They were fun movies with major flaws but its not that deep.
12:47 thank you. Thank you for exiting. Thank you for saying that
I mean, he is kinda right about qui-gon not having to exist in this movie (Which is a shame, I love that character).
His existence itself is a plot hole and it contradicts the statment obi wan made about yoda being his master and not anyone else.
Does he say "And not anyone else?". I just always assumed Obi Wan was a pupil of Yoda's, in a class not unlike the class of younglings in Episode 2. I know Plinkett argues it "cheapens the experience of being taught by Yoda" but I wouldn't necessarily call that a plothole.
@@whatsinameme5258 Yeah, you're right about it not being a plothole. But I'm not sure if we're better off with or without him. I'm a bit biased because the prequels were what got me into SW.
You don't understand that The Phantom Menace is the "pluripotent" embryo that transforms into mature, richly complex cinematic experience composed of six equally essential parts.
Star Wars is not just a New Hope or Empire. It is episodes 1 to episode 6.
Im 47 and admit I was not a fan of The Phantom Menace upon my first viewing. Watching Revenge of the Sith in the theaters however was one of the greatest movie experiences of my life.
After viewing all the films--in the proper order that they must be told--that the circle became complete.
Episodes 1 to episodes 5 plays a necessary part to build up to the conclusion of Return of the Jedi, the greatest ending in film history
I go as far as to say that George Lucas's six-part Star Wars is the greatest story ever told since the Gospels, composed of powerful archetypical truths capable of transforming how we see and act in this world.
And that's why TPTB want to tear it down and destroy it so badly.
@@minabee369 Uhh. Are you sure this response was supposed to be aimed at me? It's not like I said "everything about the movie is wrong". I just pointed out one detail and retracted it shortly after.
The prequels is a good story trying to get out, but George didn't have anyone to challenge his ideas; so it was made poorly.
Growing up, I loved them. I saw 1, 2 and 3 midnight for each showing. I was raised to be a star wars nut, and i loved the prequels growing up, but they arent good films. They are awkwardly acted, and some of the writing is pretty contrived. They arent sequel trilogy levels of bad, but they are bad. I still love them though.
My favorite is phantom menace, despite it being so hated.
I'm old. You seem to really just want to defend the prequel. It's not art house. They did experiment with new technology and that's good. The storyline was clunky and all over the place. The problem is tying it to another story that was also clunky and all over the place. I don't know anything about plunkett. I will say this, the prequels are not superior.
They were quite stupid.
Like your pfp
Fantastic video! My favorite Star Wars films are honestly the 4 directed by Lucas. They really have all the best stuff.
Me too. Not that I dislike Empire, but its honestly the least Star Wars Star Wars film if that makes sense.
I just want to make it clear that I disliked the Ewoks not because they were for children it because they looked fake obviously dwarves in teddy bear suits 😆