I have played golf for 30 years and I have always used the"fool-proof chipping method", so it was nice to see that a pro suggest this method. All my golf friends use other methods. I can see when we play, that the fool proof method is more stable- I very seldom have a fat shot and I am generally closer to the pin and often I put it in the hole from outside the green. I do not use an eight iron, but both 9 iron and a wedge. It depends on how far my ball is from the green. When everything else falls apart on a golf round,the fool- proof chipping method saves my round from a disaster- regards Bent V.( DK)
I've been using this technique for years and love it. I use my 58* from 40y to about 60y, and my 52* from 60y to about 80y with enough spin to stop them pretty close to the pin. Inside of 40y bumping and running with PW, 9i or even 8i is great. Just learn your distances by imagining either your hands or the club head on a clock. Further backswing = longer run. For example, 8i. Hands to 7 o'clock in the backswing = 10y roll. Hands to 8 o'clock = 20y roll. Hands to 9 o'clock = 30y roll.
Thanks for the advise. I have ping g10 irons with 4 wedges. Their "W" "S" "U" and "L". Love them. I also have a callaway exact tank chipper. I get kidded about the chipper until I get up and down a few times. Then they say it takes the skill out of the game! I like to use Peltz longer slower backswing on the chipper. It is truly like putting with loft. I enjoy my practice time with my chipper and wedges.
Its a great video for chip. It has improved my chip. i had a query but dont know whether i will get any reply from Dave Pelz or not because this video was shared long before. However, i am trying to know two aspect. 1. How to chip when ball need to lob. 2. How to control the distance. Thanks Dave.
I used this method today for the first time on the course without practising beforehand .i used 7 8 and 9 irons from 40 30 and 20 feet and got the ball up to the flag every time .it works .thanks dave
This works. I used it once upon a time when I was a beginner. Saw a Pelz video and practiced it with great success. Then I got better, handicap came way down, and started getting 'cute' around the greens. It cost me strokes around the green every time I played. This simple little shot actually became the weakest part of my game. I went back to this and my handicap is dropping fast. It's amazing the number of strokes us amateurs waste around the green by missing easy shots. Put that lob wedge away. You don't need it for this type shot!
Been trying to hit the middle of the stance shot recommended by so many "experts." I used to use this and have no idea why I left. May not stiff it every time but it gets you in range. I finally returned to this on my last hole but with a delofted sand wedge. It worked great. Going back to this permanently.
This is the best shot for newbies to learn. Chipping is such an art, and everyone wants to be able to hit a flop shot like Phil, but this shot is money!
Good advice. I've been struggling with yips for a few months and your 'same speed back and forward' might be my panacea. I can chip well in practice, and after watching this video, it would seem I am 'snatching' at the ball during comps. Your advice is working well in practice. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating... Thanks!
I agree with hugh rogers..I've found that if in my back swing, I keep the head of the club shallow (don't bring it up steep), I can get good connection with the ball..a little air to drop it around 25% to the hole..and my chips are good!..if I want a little back spin..I simply make my swing a little steeper...and I do set the ball a little back in my stance and come down on the back side of the ball..I can put the brakes on it very well doing this..a little practice and you can put the ball within a foot every time!
The longer shots are important but after a few years of experience you will find that short game prowess is invaluable. After years of playing I have found that anyone half- decent can be on or about the green in regulation. Dave Pelz teaches a common sense method of minimizing your mistakes around the green and getting it in the hole in fewer strokes than your opponents, The scorecard doesn't show how great your drive was on hole 12, the scorecard only shows how well you managed your total game that day. I hope my simple words inspired someone reading them to go out and play great! I have had a 45 year love affair with golf and I am only 52.
Indeed you are right. I've just worked hard through both his Short Game Bible and the Putting Bible and it's incredible the difference. I often have folks comment on my chipping/pitching at the practice green, most commonly asking if I'm a pro (this has never happened to me before - mid singles). Now 50 and still in my 43 year love affair with the game! Cheers from Oz - Dave
Ive used ,almost ,this method since i first was told about using a club other than a P or other wedge..using basically a putting stroke with a lofted putter…recently i found another teacher that has his twist on this too …its lifting the heel of the club so the toe is the only part that grounds during the swing,it prevents fat shots also …but moving the ball back in the stance is new to me …ill def try this 👍🏼✌️
You can still screw it up if you don't level your shoulders. It's common for many people to drop the right shoulder at address, effectively moving the bottom of the arc behind the ball, leading to fat shots.
used this method for years and would chunk chips every round . took a u tube lesson that used 8 iron in the middle of stance with a take away that kept he bounce intact., have not chunked since
Sounds like you're too handsy as I used to be. Dead hands and body turn for stroke length and power and this method will almost never let you down. Must remember to put most of your weight on your leading side (left side for right hand players etc.). Cheers and good luck - Dave
One of Dave's best sayings is "get the ball on the ground. The more time the ball spends on the ground instead of in the air, the more consistent you will be on distance and direction of your shot".
Glad to see this. So many instructors will have you put the ball in the centre and use minimal shaft lean which guarantees loads of chunks and skulls unless you practice a TON.
Thank you Mr. Pelz. I am in your age group and a rank player as they say. I call myself a duffer. I just started playing again and find I still had the old problem of when chipping from 5 to 30 yards up to the green not level to the green, I would 94% of the time send the ball too far over, or way short of the hole landing on or just off the skirt and many times not on line buy way to the left or right of the pin. Played a Par 3 then regulation 18 holes after watching this video and did remarkably well. Shaved some strokes off and more often sending the ball at the pin. I am looking for more improvement, Thank you so much for sharing this to use who want to improve.
Excellent tip and one I've practiced almost daily for the past few months. Enormous improvement and the confidence I have now, especially using the dead hands approach to the short game (see Mr Pelz's "Short Game Bible") has revolutionized my game - currently mid singles and falling. I am also working hard to develop touch and feel around the green with my 4 wedges as well as 7/8 irons and cannot recommend Dave's teaching enough. Soft 60 degrees and cut lobs from tight lies? No worries! :-) Many thanks and cheers from one very happy golfer in Sydney, Aust - Dave
I play with a guy who, if he knew how to do this, would certainly beat me once in a while. Instead, he hits every chip with his 60 and is just awful around the greens, and I literally beat him every time we play. I love this "old school" style of chipping. My only problem is I'm terrified when I need to loft one over a bunker and stop it quick on the green. This shot won't really work in those situations.
That's why you need to learn to chip properly. This tip is for people who don't play much and get nervous I think. The key to chipping is to stay down and not try to lift the ball with your body. Trust the club to do the work. It's a mini golf swing. The key is to practice until you can reproduce a consistent motion. Watch how the pros chip and try to duplicate it. It's a fluid motion of the whole body.
Long life the 8 iron! A damn shame Ben Hogan once "lost" (missing) his 8 iron can could never find a replacement that felt the same. I wonder if his Spirit roams the golf courses looking for it...
Pelz is a legend, but honestly this situation is not a difficult one for even a 15 handicapper. Now, give me a mound and be short sided, or have to clear a bunker from 15 yds....what then? No way are you going to put anything in the back of your stance like that. Maybe there are many amateurs out there trying to copy professionals from simple situations, this vid is maybe for them. This chip, I'd putt.
Read his book, he describes what to do there too. Cut-lobs. Typical finesse swing with dead hands and dead arms with a weakish grip and the ball at the middle of your stance with left-parallel alignment. Then shift your front toe towards the target. Now to cut-lob open the club face 45° and shuffle your feet to counter-clockwise so that the club face is aligned with the target but maintaining the ball “centered”. Swing as usual. To get the ball to stop, use higher lofts with more bounce unless you have a hard lie than a low bounce. aim for valleys over flat over mounds. This affects ball roll trajectories. Hitting a downhill lie will necessitate a more vertical pinching swing plane so cock your wrists (thumbs point towards face) by the end of your backswing. A tight pin will necessitate a quicker bite so move the ball back further ( about 3inches from center which will take distance off but more height) and cock your wrists even more. This needs a bigger back swing. For more control choke up but take about 5% off your distance per inch choked. Bermuda will roll differently according to the grain direction. Other grasses won’t matter. This is all according to his book, short game bible. It goes into much greater detail for the type of shots you described but here is a cliff notes. I hope it is useful. Cheers. Happy playing.
Pelz is a legend. But let's be real here, the problem with us amateurs wouldn't be a shot like this one (unless you're a 15+ handicap)....it's the one where there is an obstacle in front of you....a bunker, water, or lots of rough...yet your lie is tight. That is an extremely challenging shot...and there is no trick to it that I've ever seen...it has to be hit properly with whatever "theory" of chipping that you've mastered. I've seen the players use the 'bounce' in the wedge....I've seen the floppers....and I've seen the ones that put the ball in the back of their stance--deloft---and still clear the obstacle. However, Pelz advice is still solid to improve the simple chip around the green like his example...obviously.
that's great dave for a chip and run especially if there are no hills to overcome , do you have any videos that refer to chipping high and low around greens thanks
Your drill is interesting and i would try right away. A litle missing here to me is the motive!!! ok with iron 8 that could be safer than wedge in pushing ball forward regarding direction; , maybe it is worth to try 6 or 5 as well? For me, on drive way it is ok, but suddenly the heel of the club meets ball first crazily and repeatly, once I lean the shalf far forward. Any advice? Thanks.
I know an even easier method, dont laugh, but you can set up as per Dave does in this video, but instead of using an 8 iron etc try using your putter and hit down on the back of the ball and it will pop up nicely and run out, the best thing about this method is that the putter has less chance of getting stuck as with an iron. So play the ball back, lean left, use your putter, chop down on the ball, it will pop up and run to the hole, VERY SAFE SHOT TO USE. I have used it for years and play off a 5 Hcp. Try it let me know how u get on.
bought a set of wedges and it was the worst thing to happen to my short game. went back to just the pitching wedge around the greens and my short game stopped sucking.
Think i would have to disagree with Pelz on this one. There may be a time and place for this type shot depending on the situation and conditions, but you'd better practice, practice, and practice some more to pull it off consistently. Too may bad things can happen with a shot like this. Sticking the club, blowing it past the hole, etc. Seems less likely to mis-hit the ball from a more neutral to "slightly back" ball position with maybe a less lofted wedge like a 45 degree. Probably get similar results with less chance of mishits IMHO.
I’m real stuck with my chipping never settled on a technique.tried the pros way using the bounce, this way and a more toe down way. It’s winter in uk muddy wet lies chipped well all last season but this winter my confidence has been destroyed. Could be just the conditions but at the moment I’ve no confidence
Might as well putt it on such an easy chip.. Otherwise he is correct sometimes you can't putt,like say you have a clean fairway lie and you need 4 yards of carry good shot for that. In this situation the chip was so darn easy that he made it look like a 3 foot putt! Good tip kinda for rank amateurs or the easiest chip shot you can find right? Try this on a downhill shot on fast greens even on a clean lie and it's most likely going 12 feet by that's why pros use the sw/lw to negate the speed of the chip and to do that you need rotation and hand action/hinge and hold.
Dave is great but I don't buy this at all. You can very well chip, ball middle, vertical shaft, heel off ground, with a putting type of small movement. Does the same thing and you have your parts on top of eachother without awkward tilts and shaft leans. It's consistent with thins too.
I like Pelz, but his reaction to those 2 simple chips is a bit over the top. That's a simple chip (actually should be putted from there) on a flat green.
@@mike24819 On camera where you can edit out any poor shot? That chip? Any decent chipper could drop 10 balls and be within 3 feet on each one. You're obviously not much of a chipper.
8 club championship wins and 14 invitational wins I'm now a professional ... And you??? Still washing dishes I bet you couldn't make that chip if money is on the line... Question is do u make enough doing dishes
I WAS a Dave Pelz fan and he still deserves all the credit for the research he has done. Then I studied modern biomechanics...... Forget this video, because it is not a structural solution. This is really dead wrong. Trust me. I thought about this the same way during 28 years...
Not foolproof. Delofted, rear ball position is THE classic way to chunk even the shortest chip. Done it plenty of times for many years. Many teachers show people how to use the club bounce to avoid chunking and using a shallow swing to activate it. Unfortunately a delofted 7,8,9i doesn't have any bounce to work with. For chips like these as shown, you might as well putt. Good luck trying this going over heavy rough or a bunker, you need to learn good chipping and short pitching for those.
That's how I learned to hit pitch and run shots 20+ years ago. I try to use the same technique with my pw but I still catch it thin sometimes (3-4 times today)I think I might try going back to the 8i.
Doesn't make any sense... if you're going to deloft a 8 iron so much.... just use a 6 iron in the middle of your stance...so much easier... i tried it his way.... didn't work at all for me.... everyone is different... i like a 8 iron in the middle... works great... give it a try...
Ex Pro leant me Pelz's books. Makes Golf sound like a maths PHD paper. He over complicates everything. Personally I like fat chips. Skinny fries are not healthy.
Sorry, but let's be real! Nobody ever has totally eliminated hitting fat shots. They certainly can learn to hit fewer fat shots. But by saying forever, just gives us a false sense of accomplishment, as if we don't totally eliminate them we are not as we think we should be, because you have suggested that we could eliminate fat shots forever. Not!
Again another chipping tip that exact opposite of another professional chipping tip. I’m sick of these professionals I think they’re lying to us none of this shit ever works
I have played golf for 30 years and I have always used the"fool-proof chipping method", so it was nice to see that a pro suggest this method. All my golf friends use other methods. I can see when we play, that the fool proof method is more stable- I very seldom have a fat shot and I am generally closer to the pin and often I put it in the hole from outside the green. I do not use an eight iron, but both 9 iron and a wedge. It depends on how far my ball is from the green. When everything else falls apart on a golf round,the fool- proof chipping method saves my round from a disaster- regards Bent V.( DK)
I've been using this technique for years and love it. I use my 58* from 40y to about 60y, and my 52* from 60y to about 80y with enough spin to stop them pretty close to the pin.
Inside of 40y bumping and running with PW, 9i or even 8i is great. Just learn your distances by imagining either your hands or the club head on a clock. Further backswing = longer run.
For example, 8i. Hands to 7 o'clock in the backswing = 10y roll.
Hands to 8 o'clock = 20y roll.
Hands to 9 o'clock = 30y roll.
Thanks for the advise. I have ping g10 irons with 4 wedges. Their "W" "S" "U" and "L". Love them. I also have a callaway exact tank chipper. I get kidded about the chipper until I get up and down a few times. Then they say it takes the skill out of the game! I like to use Peltz longer slower backswing on the chipper. It is truly like putting with loft. I enjoy my practice time with my chipper and wedges.
I watched this this morning prior to my round and literally saved 5 shots off my score because of this trip. Thank you so much, Mr Pelz
well, you keep tripping Collin. ;-)
Its a great video for chip. It has improved my chip. i had a query but dont know whether i will get any reply from Dave Pelz or not because this video was shared long before. However, i am trying to know two aspect.
1. How to chip when ball need to lob.
2. How to control the distance.
Thanks Dave.
I tried this today and I’ve cut at least 6 shots from my round. Genius Mr Pelz. Thanks.
I used this method today for the first time on the course without practising beforehand .i used 7 8 and 9 irons from 40 30 and 20 feet and got the ball up to the flag every time .it works .thanks dave
This works. I used it once upon a time when I was a beginner. Saw a Pelz video and practiced it with great success. Then I got better, handicap came way down, and started getting 'cute' around the greens. It cost me strokes around the green every time I played. This simple little shot actually became the weakest part of my game. I went back to this and my handicap is dropping fast. It's amazing the number of strokes us amateurs waste around the green by missing easy shots. Put that lob wedge away. You don't need it for this type shot!
Been trying to hit the middle of the stance shot recommended by so many "experts." I used to use this and have no idea why I left. May not stiff it every time but it gets you in range. I finally returned to this on my last hole but with a delofted sand wedge. It worked great. Going back to this permanently.
I tried this today with an 8 Iron from 25 yards and put it 3 feet from the hole. It worked with a 9I and a PW as well. Thanks Dave.
Dave, you saved me 5 strokes per round and a ton of aggravation. So simple! THANK YOU!!!
Brilliant advice Dave, saved a few strokes on the course today, thanks very much.
I follow Seve’s one wedge system. Simplicity works for me. A 56 degree 12 bounce is what I use. For everything within 100 yards.
This is the best shot for newbies to learn. Chipping is such an art, and everyone wants to be able to hit a flop shot like Phil, but this shot is money!
Ryan Harris Nobody wants to putt like Phil.
If you think any PGA tour player is a bad putter you're completely delusional.
Very very true. You simply cannot be on tour without holing a ton of putts. Whether they think they are easy or not, still have to sink em.
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Best shot if you've been playing for years as well
Dave... brilliant
, thank you.
Greetings from Wales.
Ron
Good advice. I've been struggling with yips for a few months and your 'same speed back and forward' might be my panacea. I can chip well in practice, and after watching this video, it would seem I am 'snatching' at the ball during comps. Your advice is working well in practice. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating... Thanks!
I agree with hugh rogers..I've found that if in my back swing, I keep the head of the club shallow (don't bring it up steep), I can get good connection with the ball..a little air to drop it around 25% to the hole..and my chips are good!..if I want a little back spin..I simply make my swing a little steeper...and I do set the ball a little back in my stance and come down on the back side of the ball..I can put the brakes on it very well doing this..a little practice and you can put the ball within a foot every time!
The longer shots are important but after a few years of experience you will find that short game prowess is invaluable. After years of playing I have found that anyone half- decent can be on or about the green in regulation. Dave Pelz teaches a common sense method of minimizing your mistakes around the green and getting it in the hole in fewer strokes than your opponents, The scorecard doesn't show how great your drive was on hole 12, the scorecard only shows how well you managed your total game that day. I hope my simple words inspired someone reading them to go out and play great! I have had a 45 year love affair with golf and I am only 52.
Indeed you are right. I've just worked hard through both his Short Game Bible and the Putting Bible and it's incredible the difference. I often have folks comment on my chipping/pitching at the practice green, most commonly asking if I'm a pro (this has never happened to me before - mid singles). Now 50 and still in my 43 year love affair with the game! Cheers from Oz - Dave
Ive used ,almost ,this method since i first was told about using a club other than a P or other wedge..using basically a putting stroke with a lofted putter…recently i found another teacher that has his twist on this too …its lifting the heel of the club so the toe is the only part that grounds during the swing,it prevents fat shots also …but moving the ball back in the stance is new to me …ill def try this 👍🏼✌️
Absolute opposite of other instruction sites with regard to chipping.
so others say to put the ball off your left ankle and use a lofted club and use your hands to scoop the ball into the air?
You can still screw it up if you don't level your shoulders. It's common for many people to drop the right shoulder at address, effectively moving the bottom of the arc behind the ball, leading to fat shots.
used this method for years and would chunk chips every round . took a u tube lesson that used 8 iron in the middle of stance with a take away that kept he bounce intact., have not chunked since
Sounds like you're too handsy as I used to be. Dead hands and body turn for stroke length and power and this method will almost never let you down. Must remember to put most of your weight on your leading side (left side for right hand players etc.). Cheers and good luck - Dave
One of Dave's best sayings is "get the ball on the ground. The more time the ball spends on the ground instead of in the air, the more consistent you will be on distance and direction of your shot".
Glad to see this. So many instructors will have you put the ball in the centre and use minimal shaft lean which guarantees loads of chunks and skulls unless you practice a TON.
That's great advise, Dave!
Thank you Mr. Pelz. I am in your age group and a rank player as they say. I call myself a duffer. I just started playing again and find I still had the old problem of when chipping from 5 to 30 yards up to the green not level to the green, I would 94% of the time send the ball too far over, or way short of the hole landing on or just off the skirt and many times not on line buy way to the left or right of the pin. Played a Par 3 then regulation 18 holes after watching this video and did remarkably well. Shaved some strokes off and more often sending the ball at the pin. I am looking for more improvement, Thank you so much for sharing this to use who want to improve.
Dave, thanks so much for quoting Phil Rogers almost verbatim.
yep. I had a VCR tape with Rodgers teaching. he was informative and funny
Excellent tip and one I've practiced almost daily for the past few months. Enormous improvement and the confidence I have now, especially using the dead hands approach to the short game (see Mr Pelz's "Short Game Bible") has revolutionized my game - currently mid singles and falling. I am also working hard to develop touch and feel around the green with my 4 wedges as well as 7/8 irons and cannot recommend Dave's teaching enough. Soft 60 degrees and cut lobs from tight lies? No worries! :-) Many thanks and cheers from one very happy golfer in Sydney, Aust - Dave
Does this mean I can get rid of my wedges? Instead of an 8 iron can I use a 5 iron and not put my hands forward?
I believe that's the "Road Hole" copy in Pelz's backyard. Only the trees are real.
I play with a guy who, if he knew how to do this, would certainly beat me once in a while. Instead, he hits every chip with his 60 and is just awful around the greens, and I literally beat him every time we play.
I love this "old school" style of chipping. My only problem is I'm terrified when I need to loft one over a bunker and stop it quick on the green. This shot won't really work in those situations.
if truth be known he probably thinks you're an asshole!
That's why you need to learn to chip properly. This tip is for people who don't play much and get nervous I think. The key to chipping is to stay down and not try to lift the ball with your body. Trust the club to do the work. It's a mini golf swing. The key is to practice until you can reproduce a consistent motion.
Watch how the pros chip and try to duplicate it. It's a fluid motion of the whole body.
Long life the 8 iron! A damn shame Ben Hogan once "lost" (missing) his 8 iron can could never find a replacement that felt the same. I wonder if his Spirit roams the golf courses looking for it...
Great Insights very helpful!
Pelz is a legend, but honestly this situation is not a difficult one for even a 15 handicapper. Now, give me a mound and be short sided, or have to clear a bunker from 15 yds....what then? No way are you going to put anything in the back of your stance like that. Maybe there are many amateurs out there trying to copy professionals from simple situations, this vid is maybe for them. This chip, I'd putt.
Read his book, he describes what to do there too. Cut-lobs. Typical finesse swing with dead hands and dead arms with a weakish grip and the ball at the middle of your stance with left-parallel alignment.
Then shift your front toe towards the target. Now to cut-lob open the club face 45° and shuffle your feet to counter-clockwise so that the club face is aligned with the target but maintaining the ball “centered”. Swing as usual. To get the ball to stop, use higher lofts with more bounce unless you have a hard lie than a low bounce. aim for valleys over flat over mounds. This affects ball roll trajectories. Hitting a downhill lie will necessitate a more vertical pinching swing plane so cock your wrists (thumbs point towards face) by the end of your backswing. A tight pin will necessitate a quicker bite so move the ball back further ( about 3inches from center which will take distance off but more height) and cock your wrists even more.
This needs a bigger back swing. For more control choke up but take about 5% off your distance per inch choked.
Bermuda will roll differently according to the grain direction. Other grasses won’t matter.
This is all according to his book, short game bible.
It goes into much greater detail for the type of shots you described but here is a cliff notes. I hope it is useful. Cheers. Happy playing.
When you’re going over a bunker you’re pitching, not chipping. Look at his pitching technique
What a great tip ...but of course I see this in November.
Pelz is a legend. But let's be real here, the problem with us amateurs wouldn't be a shot like this one (unless you're a 15+ handicap)....it's the one where there is an obstacle in front of you....a bunker, water, or lots of rough...yet your lie is tight. That is an extremely challenging shot...and there is no trick to it that I've ever seen...it has to be hit properly with whatever "theory" of chipping that you've mastered. I've seen the players use the 'bounce' in the wedge....I've seen the floppers....and I've seen the ones that put the ball in the back of their stance--deloft---and still clear the obstacle. However, Pelz advice is still solid to improve the simple chip around the green like his example...obviously.
Haven't seen any mid to low handicappers do this. And I'm not even talking of the pros, of any tour. This is high handicapper stuff!
Excellent for anyone with the yips.
this is fine and dandy but what do you do when you have to pitch up to an elevated green?
Then you hit a pitch shot and not a chip.
Dave you icon, you remind me of my dad but in the best way possible
even Phil screws the flop up 30% of the time. NO!! AMATEUR OVER 10HCP should even try a flop shot cost you way more strokes than it will EVER save you
What do you do when you have the same length shot but from 2 inches of rough???
that's great dave for a chip and run especially if there are no hills to overcome , do you have any videos that refer to chipping high and low around greens thanks
I love your greenkeepers!
i have used the 9 iron. does this mean that i can retire the wedge for chips?
Dave thank you, this worked great for me...tyty
Your drill is interesting and i would try right away. A litle missing here to me is the motive!!! ok with iron 8 that could be safer than wedge in pushing ball forward regarding direction; , maybe it is worth to try 6 or 5 as well? For me, on drive way it is ok, but suddenly the heel of the club meets ball first crazily and repeatly, once I lean the shalf far forward. Any advice? Thanks.
Dave, what is the distance to the hole? Looks like 20-30 ft. What is it actually?
I know an even easier method, dont laugh, but you can set up as per Dave does in this video, but instead of using an 8 iron etc try using your putter and hit down on the back of the ball and it will pop up nicely and run out, the best thing about this method is that the putter has less chance of getting stuck as with an iron. So play the ball back, lean left, use your putter, chop down on the ball, it will pop up and run to the hole, VERY SAFE SHOT TO USE. I have used it for years and play off a 5 Hcp. Try it let me know how u get on.
Yeah I used that myself seemed much more logical.
Putters often have square edges that will catch in the turf more than an 8 iron.
Try it you'd be surprised how safe the shot is i'm speaking from actual experience not from a keyboard warrior.
What if its a fluffy lie? and the ball is sitting up?
Hello all, using a putter is alright but around the green hard fringe would prevent us from distance control. Any idea?
Dave
bought a set of wedges and it was the worst thing to happen to my short game. went back to just the pitching wedge around the greens and my short game stopped sucking.
I like the Swiss Hirzl Glove :D
Think i would have to disagree with Pelz on this one. There may be a time and place for this type shot depending on the situation and conditions, but you'd better practice, practice, and practice some more to pull it off consistently. Too may bad things can happen with a shot like this. Sticking the club, blowing it past the hole, etc. Seems less likely to mis-hit the ball from a more neutral to "slightly back" ball position with maybe a less lofted wedge like a 45 degree. Probably get similar results with less chance of mishits IMHO.
I’m real stuck with my chipping never settled on a technique.tried the pros way using the bounce, this way and a more toe down way. It’s winter in uk muddy wet lies chipped well all last season but this winter my confidence has been destroyed. Could be just the conditions but at the moment I’ve no confidence
master of short game
I would love to see the critics take Dave on with any iron from a wedge to a 5I. The fools of the game post comments that last a lifetime.
I would love to see Dave play in a tournament. The fools who follow Dave religiously post comments that are ludicrous.
@@omegacon4 How do you consider Phil a fool. He continues to work with Dave and his short game works.
Read his book. It's a game changer.
Love this. 😊
Might as well putt it on such an easy chip.. Otherwise he is correct sometimes you can't putt,like say you have a clean fairway lie and you need 4 yards of carry good shot for that. In this situation the chip was so darn easy that he made it look like a 3 foot putt! Good tip kinda for rank amateurs or the easiest chip shot you can find right? Try this on a downhill shot on fast greens even on a clean lie and it's most likely going 12 feet by that's why pros use the sw/lw to negate the speed of the chip and to do that you need rotation and hand action/hinge and hold.
Why not putt it?
Dave is great but I don't buy this at all. You can very well chip, ball middle, vertical shaft, heel off ground, with a putting type of small movement. Does the same thing and you have your parts on top of eachother without awkward tilts and shaft leans. It's consistent with thins too.
I like Pelz, but his reaction to those 2 simple chips is a bit over the top. That's a simple chip (actually should be putted from there) on a flat green.
Randy Bailin agree with you just put it
Says Joe the pro ... Bet you would put it that close on camera
@@mike24819 On camera where you can edit out any poor shot? That chip? Any decent chipper could drop 10 balls and be within 3 feet on each one. You're obviously not much of a chipper.
8 club championship wins and 14 invitational wins I'm now a professional ... And you??? Still washing dishes I bet you couldn't make that chip if money is on the line... Question is do u make enough doing dishes
Totally agree!
🤙it works!
I WAS a Dave Pelz fan and he still deserves all the credit for the research he has done. Then I studied modern biomechanics...... Forget this video, because it is not a structural solution. This is really dead wrong. Trust me. I thought about this the same way during 28 years...
Personally I use a crinkle cutter and pre-boil them. Seems Dave may be eating a few too many?
Not foolproof. Delofted, rear ball position is THE classic way to chunk even the shortest chip. Done it plenty of times for many years. Many teachers show people how to use the club bounce to avoid chunking and using a shallow swing to activate it. Unfortunately a delofted 7,8,9i doesn't have any bounce to work with. For chips like these as shown, you might as well putt. Good luck trying this going over heavy rough or a bunker, you need to learn good chipping and short pitching for those.
0:16 I would take this more seriously if they used a term that they really meant (I call it "Fool proof" but it really isn't foolproof).
Phil goes to Pelz to work on his short game and has for years. Phil takes him seriously and I suspect that his short game is better than yours.😎
country club members- always tip your local golf starter 100 bucks in the beginning of the year..
That's how I learned to hit pitch and run shots 20+ years ago. I try to use the same technique with my pw but I still catch it thin sometimes (3-4 times today)I think I might try going back to the 8i.
love it.
Great
Doesn't make any sense... if you're going to deloft a 8 iron so much.... just use a 6 iron in the middle of your stance...so much easier... i tried it his way.... didn't work at all for me.... everyone is different... i like a 8 iron in the middle... works great... give it a try...
Foolproof dave not fullproof
Eh...
ball at the back? No Thanks!
Sigh. The term is "foolproof", not "full proof"
Ex Pro leant me Pelz's books. Makes Golf sound like a maths PHD paper. He over complicates everything. Personally I like fat chips. Skinny fries are not healthy.
Sorry, but let's be real! Nobody ever has totally eliminated hitting fat shots. They certainly can learn to hit fewer fat shots. But by saying forever, just gives us a false sense of accomplishment, as if we don't totally eliminate them we are not as we think we should be, because you have suggested that we could eliminate fat shots forever. Not!
Probably the worst advice you could give a new golfer or someone taking up the game
I invented this technique.
Not so foolproof on the average UK lie.
Again another chipping tip that exact opposite of another professional chipping tip. I’m sick of these professionals I think they’re lying to us none of this shit ever works
Dave, you sound out of breath. Maybe you should take up something less exhausting than golf. ;)