you need 2 4/8 3/4 ply wood sheets for the machine to run on as one go under the other one is coming under the machine pull the first one out and put it Behind the machine to back up on so it will not sink in the stone good luck
You just won the grand prize for the absolute best comment on my video. You were polite and I wish I thought of that while this was happening. Thank you!
After reading the comments, I think you get the idea of everything you’ve done wrong and now you’ve learned something. One thing I will mention though god bless those drivers for being so patient, most people would have popped that guy in the mouth.
Most cities and towns will classify the shed as permanent if it is on a cement base. Thus it is taxable. This men did a great job considering the conditions. Gravel should have been compacted by renting a machine. Very impressive shed.
suggest compacting the gravel with a rented gasoline powered mechanical vibrating compactor before moving heavy loads on gravel, otherwise gouges will get things out of level. I know it's too late for this project, but for any other people watching this, that is a key element to getting this sort of thing right in the future. And that doesn't really cost much to rent.
Its not soft rock LOL. This is common practice. 3/4 crushed stone works well for this application. My rock bed is fully enclosed by the timbers which contains the stone. Compacting 3/4 is a waste of time. The guys should have put plywood down. In the end it came out great. Been there now for 6 years and perfect. So why are people so fucking rude?
Those hitches/trailers are incredible. Saw one up close and personal 20 years ago when we had a mobile home ‘shoe-horned’ onto our property. Amazing. My pictures look kinda similar to the ones he’s taking!
They should have gotten 2 sheets of plywood to go under the wheels backing up onto them to keep from sinking into the gravel moving the front one to the back as you go. That’s to simple even for 3 men to think about. Of course I’m a women and we find a way to get things done the simple way
Typical home owner prep work. done wrong, but still wants them to waste there time for him to fix it as they go. I loved the comment " hold on, I want this done right " Well, then you should have prepared it correctly before they came.
Wow less than an hour. Cool. I had been wondering how long it takes them. We are going to be ordering one of the cabins with the same foot print as your garage here soon.
The owner did not have enough gravel placed to account for the weight and settlement of the shed. Also when it rains the shed is going to sink even more. He need to rethink that shed installation. I hope he had drainage installed. Great looking shed and great delivery and installation.
I am the owner. Did you watch the linked video that shows the preparation pictures? I used a full triaxle load of 3/4 crushed stone. 23 tons. Minimum 8" deep. Deeper on the lower side because I graded a slope in the ground so the water wouldn't pool. Also added a pvc drain at the lowest point. Shed has been there for over 5 years now and barely settled.
Not everybody has professional equipment or is a pro. I was walking backwards as the truck was pulling in. I was hit by a car when I was 13 and have a short leg which doesn't help either. Thanks for the compliments
I put my gravel in 3 months before the building. The gravel here is crushed limestone. It kind of binds together so I had no problems. My building is only a 20 footer too. I can understand wanting gravel. But maybe that was a bit too much. But then thats just Monday morning quarterbacking. They really need to give a copy of this video to all new buyers.
The shed will deform with time. The underground gravel should always be compacted. Its definitely not the fault from the guys who have delivered it.I also wonder why there was not build a drive-in ramp to the platform.......But why make something proper,when you can do correctional work after finishing?
I believe it all comes down to communication between the purchaser and the delivery group. I deliver prebuilts with a knuckle boom and have had real good success to date. Delivery areas are never ideal but with patience I can usually make things work. If I know the area I'm delivering to to be difficult, I'll drive there to assess the situation.
I put gravel 6" thick when I made my concrete driveway and the gravel was just like this, So I got a lawn roller out and kept going back and forth and you wouldn't believe how nice and flat and hard it makes it. The stones will seat against each other. If you have rolled this, those small tires wouldn't have sunk in at all.
Really? my driveway is made of crushed rock and is compacted down so hard that you would have to have a jack hammer in order to make a hole in it. furthermore sand on the other hand can be compacted to the point of being as strong as concrete. Sorry but i'm really not believing that you really know what you are talking about. but it is your opinion.
Wood on concrete is a no-no. Wood wicks moisture out of concrete. A good architect always specifies a waterproof barrier between wood joists and cement in building construction. Here it is after 7 years. www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
@@helihoot very nice shed/garage! I really like the design of yours. Looks really good now seeing it all together with the roof. Do you mind me asking what it cost 7 years ago? Don't mind all the jackasses in the comments keyboard critiques, i imagine it was tough trying to film, trying to make sure it's the way you want it, make sure the stone was on grade again, and getting it perfectly centered. Those trailers and mules are really nice! When we take any equipment into homeowners yards we use plastic 4x8 mats to not tear up their yard. The 4x8 sheets of 3/4 would do the same leap frogging the 2 sheets. Very nice building!
@@BuggysTowJam The negatives are really disheartening. We all have different personalities and I know if I met most of these people face to face they wouldn't have the balls to say what they say on line. Thank you so much for the compliments. Like I said many times, those people (installers) are here one time and after they leave it's ours forever. So I like to make sure it's done right. I think they made a mistake in driving that mule on the stone. They should have put mats down. In the end I didn't dis them and the job came out great. Thanks again.
@@helihoot Sorry, but that gravel needed to be compacted and then the mule wouldn't have sunk like it did. No big deal really it all worked out in the end. It's amazing the tight places those guys can get a shed into isn't it?
@@bbrown6057 you can compact that stone and it will tear right up the way they drove on it with the weight of that building. If I would have known I would have trown a couple of sheets of plywood down under the mule. Ye it's really amazing. Those trailers are custom made in Lancaster, PA I believe.
I'm a contractor lol your very very right for being there and watching them to make sure they are doing it right and not taking shortcuts. the only issue is not being experienced you probably won't catch every shortcut taken but will realize it long after its too late lol. I learned the hard way after having numerous teams of contractors working on my house the past few weeks. omg of the 5 teams only 1 of them done a job I didn't have to call back on. it's been a nightmare!
You missed your calling, you should be in the obstacle course building business. Did you not realize how low the approach to your "site" was and that they would be using a low trailer? (oh yea, you said: "I thought that it might be a problem" ... " I can put some dirt in there with my front end loader"). Why didn't you already have it reasonably level before they got there? It's not their fault that they had such a hard time getting it set in place, they were trying their damndest, but they were working against a very poorly prepared site. The reason I was going through and watching videos is because I'm getting a 16 x 32 building. I promise you the people delivering mine will have a much better prepared site. Thanks for showing everybody what NOT to do when preparing a site to set a building. Oh ... also, I'm feeling sea sick from trying to watch your video.
I could have dropped and packed some dirt at the end there within minutes. They said no, its fine. Hey Mike (me), thank you for taking the time to record the event and post it. Sorry its shaky. I used a cell phone and was walking.
Make sure your pad sits for at least a month or run a sprinkler on it. They wouldn't have had such a hard time if the gravel pad had settled first. apeared to have just been done. That's one of the biggest things I hated. Everyone thinks you can put a pad in and use it the next day.
Should have compacted the gravel, that would have prevented a sinking situation and provided a sturdy base that would not need to settle! One way of preventing cement cracks is by compacting the material under it before pouring!
I don’t understand why people who use that stone don’t compact it with concrete mixing powder/dust. When I built my backyard shop I spread a few bags of concrete mix over top then raked it over to mix in thoroughly, compact the stone a little, lightly water, mix again and compact it again before it dries! Having done that made it durable and my tractor didn’t sink in and dig into the stone!
As you can see, the ground under the stone falls away so water goes through the stone and drains down the hill. I even put a drain in. www.getdieselpower.com/Content/Pictures/Sharon/Shed/Shed_Base/IMG_7578.JPG www.getdieselpower.com/Content/Pictures/Sharon/Shed/Shed_Base/album/
Not sure why so many people like to take jabs at the owner (me) without before politely asking why. A slab isnt the best thing to sit wood on. The wood draws moisture out of the slab and rots faster than sitting on a bed of stone that is always dry. The other reason I didn't go slab is I can easily relocate it if I choose. Local zoning might make me move it some day since it encroaches into the twp land. Here it is at 7 years old www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
My scoring for this video. Out of 10 each. Site prep. 2 Looks great but no compaction of the gravel and low delivery point brought the score down. Delivery of shed. 12 Excellent equipment that can do amazing things. Bonus points for getting it done on such a poorly prepared site. Videography. -3 Some of the videography was as handy as a pocket on a shirt but we didn’t need to see the pocket for 2 minutes. Should have edited that out. The shaky camera work probably made some people sea sick. Best comment during the install. “Take your time. I want it done right.” 😂 If you (helihoot) had taken the time to compact the gravel and had the “I thought that would be a problem” low spot filled in or had planks available if the low spot is meant to be there for truck loading from that door then the delivery guys would have had the shed delivered and been gone before the gravel was disturbed.
They were hoping they could just back it up and drop it. I think it is up to the homeowner to level the ground before delivery. Seems the owner knew there was going to be a problem and should not have waited until the last min to resolve the problem. I bet the delivery men didn't even get a tip. In the end, Persistence pays off I watched a couple of previous deliveries of Amish sheds and people do use gravel as a foundation, depends on soil type, I guess. We have clay so poor drainage, wouldn't work on our land. Difficult to watch the video, but the comments gave me the best entertainment and laughs I've had in some time.
No I did not know it was going to be a problem. t was only about 6" low but the shed was so long that by the time the extended it over the base, it started to hit. I wanted them to pull it out and let me put some dirt there to raise it up so they could back it all the way. Would have only taken a couple minute. I have a backhoe.
I would make sure that when a customer is making their own deep stone pad that they compact it and surrounding ground knowing the weight going on it , and delivery should carry some construction mats to drive over in this circumstance(soft terrain).
I did my research. 3/4 stone barely compacts. And even if i did that machine still would have done the same. they screwed up. If they let me add more dirt in the front like I suggested so they could have raised the shed higher they could have backed it the whole way with the truck. I had a backhoe there and dirt but they said no this is fine. Bottom line it's been there now for 8 years with no issues with the base.
Think I would of used the mule on boards laid down that wouldn't of moved the gravel at all. Then just lift it up pull the boards out eezy peezy. As far as your video skills go not bad for using a phone. Come on guys this is a guy who bought a shed not a Hollywood director geez cut him a bit of slack.Yep I would keep some plywood on hand to use on gravel pads would of worked great. Nice vid helihoot.
If you go to the video titled "One Man Show - Delivery & Set up of 12x20 Storage Shed", you will see a better set-up man- knows how to drive what looks like the same dolly truck- just retracts the steering wheels as they are not needed if done properly. Don't blame the owner.
Let me give you a word of wise for SAFETY SAKE. PLEASE... Get your mirrors mounted on top of the cab. The way you have them mounted, when running down the highway, if someone in the oncoming traffic ran into your mirror, the mirror bar could (and has happened) slice thru windshield and decapitate occupants or at the very least injure the driver. Very dangerous to have mirrors mounted below occupants like they are. How do I know this you ask? I have been in the mobile home transporting business for 40 years. Toters use to mount mirror bar below windshield, which was more convinent to adjust mirror extension. After a few years and some tragedies they stopped mounting mirror bars this way. Great video and nice job getting load delivered successfully.
You have a 10K building brought in and you sit in the house while they are doing it. You only deal with them one day. You live with the result forever.
There is a saying some might like to think on ..... "He who pays the piper calls the tunes!" Having said that, it may have been an idea to run it through a video editor? As to the gravel .... you can compact anything ..... bu some are sold to be compacted (there are several different grades of rock mixed in so the smaller ones interlock with the larger ones) and some that are not! There is only one person who knows the full story of who said what to who and what was both promised and required .... and it isn't me so I will not pass judgement on eather side! Those rose coloured glasses are far too easy to use so can we all stop bickering and play nice? ..... I'll get me coat! ;0)
Dave W I am the homeowner. I don't care about edits. This this raw footage and I'm not hiding anything. Short answer. Shed has been there for many years now and is beautiful. Nothing more needs to be said. The guys were there for a day. I have to live with the results for the rest of my life. I'm sure all you big critics never displayed this type of behavior with a 10k purchase.
I realize this is a 2012 video, but it is a perfect example of why an owner can not video his own project. A large part of the time the camera is not pointed at what it should be focused on; the camera jerks around too much, almost making the viewer seasick. A tripod set up on the back corner would have been a much better idea.
@@helihoot I'd laugh all the way to the bank if i were you. You're a smart man i can tell just from the prep work you did do, we all make errors sometimes and in hindsight I'm sure you would've brought the grade up a little with tamped dirt now I'm hindsight. But i think you did a helluva job in the drainage forethought and level pad. And you're even smarter to reply to all of the haters and trolls. Because like you said your still getting paid for their views and then all the interaction also helps your channel. So be it, positive or negative comments. The more they leave the more they come back to your video making you more money. Wise man, you are! Thumbs up! And thank you for taking the time to make and share your video! I appreciate your efforts!
@@BuggysTowJam yea but I though maybe people could learn from what I did. I like to research but that doesn't mean when you are done researching you make the decisions everybody on earth agrees with. It's sad to see how some people comment with disdain and ignorance. ruclips.net/user/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.getdieselpower.com%2Fgallery%2F_data%2Fi%2Fupload%2F2017%2F06%2F24%2F20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg&stzid=Uggcbn-oXVoCongCoAEC&event=comments&redir_token=Ta8gv_2yhvkBNbQQR42DQJoxZF58MTU2MDU2NTQwNEAxNTYwNDc5MDA0
I'm looking at the 12' x 22' version of your shed/garage. Are you happy with the craftsmanship of it? Would you recommend Riehl sheds to a prospective buyer? Were you able to haggle the price down a bit at all or did you have to pay full retail? Any sales tax charged? Sorry for all the questions but I think you'd be the best person to ask since I'm seriously considering getting one of these shed/garages from Riehl. Thanks!
They wouldn't listen because you were annoying them. If someone constantly ignores you (like these guys had to do) then stop offering them you unsolicited tripe. The foundation was you responsibility. How did you expect them to drive over that loose crap?
Johnny Gee I don’t think it’s considered trolls bellyaching when it’s true! The gravel should have been compacted with a machine and a ramp to the pad should have been built!!!
@@barstad-9591 so you think you can compact 3/4" Delaware 57 stone with no dust in it, do you? You think that would've made any difference? Bedding stone will settle, but it takes a long time. On big job sites I've ran huge vibratory roller compactors over 3/4 stone. And afterwards pickup trucks would drive over it and make ruts like that mules little tire did. In smaller trenches where i was laying pipe and using being stone around the pipe I've tried compacting it with a tamp and that was useless. Until i added crusher run that has stone dust in it or select that was the only things i could get to compact. Unless it was ammesite and rolled to compaction. But bedding stone, no you're wasting your time thinking you'll get compaction from tamping it or rolling it. Now people have used 3/4 stone for driveways and after a good long while it will settle and compact if it's constantly driven over. But that's not what this is or was. As for this job, since the delivery guys didn't opt for the homeowner to add some dirt in the gully when they assessed where the building was going, and take him up on his offer. That's on them not him. As for the sinking mule, if they do this job daily i guarantee you this isn't the first time they've encountered 3/4"stone base. And in that event they'd have seen the back smaller tire of the mule make ruts. Not to mention this was a very large heavy building, bigger then most common 12x24 sheds and the ruts they made with the drive tires of the mule were also unacceptable. This man spent a day or more prepping raking grading screeding that stone to be level and on grade. And it was obvious by watching the video if the homeowner didn't grab the rake and relevel those ruts the delivery guys weren't going to, they were trying to continue backing up until the homeowner asked him to slow down and stop to get it right. All humans make periodic mistakes and have brain farts. But that doesn't mean every two finger typist needs to leave negative or derogatory comments to a man who simply uploaded a video that he wanted to take and share on the Web.
@@barstad-9591 and just to set the record straight i don't like your comment. But if you're viewing on a phone youtube as i am. I don't get notified if people reply to my comments unless they like my comment. That i get notified for and if i happen to go back to the video of the comment i left that is liked and see a reply. That's the only way i know someone replied to me. And i want you to see my reply to you.
Chris S I'm the homeowner. If you stopped over we'd have a beer and shoot the shit. Those guys were here for a day. I live with the results for the rest of my life.
Perfect except for the time I drove my zero turn out of it and didnt have the garage door up all the way. I hear a loud bang. The ROPS bar hit the door and bent it up real bad. I straightened it out and reset it. Look fine from the house LOL
@@helihoot i grew up on Naamans Creek Rd couple houses down from 202. Went to concord elementary and garnet valley hs, that was back in the early 80s. Used to ride my bike to work on a farm shavertown rd to kirk rd. On the corner of kirk and Smithbridge was the farm. It's all gone now and huge houses. The house we lived in a cape cod my grandfather built in the early 1960s after my father sold it in the late 80s a few people bought and sold it and then a developer came in and picked the house up and moved it closer to the road in front of our neighbors house at the time and bought the other neighbors property and built quite a few same style attached cape cod townhouses like it Graystone Dr i think it's called now. Funny how it changes over time. Now I'm in Smyrna Delaware and doubt we could afford to move back up there. Between taxes and property values now, that's for the elite or those who bought years ago and held onto the property.
I hear you but I had good reason not to go concrete, partly due to code issues with the township. One reason stone can be better is the 4x4 rails underneath sitting on drained rock is better than wood sitting directly on concrete.
"14 x 32. To all who criticize in the comments, if you know so much then why are you watching?" ANSWER: because everyone like watching a train wreck. and your prep work was a train wreck !
perhaps the owner thought you were using a helicopter......I was in the mobile home delivery business for many years, no one ever understood the use of clean,loose stone and trying to drive over it. I am no longer in that profession.
They weren't supposed to drive over it. The idea was to back up all the way and drop it right where it needed to be. Unfortunately the ground and was about 8" too low where the truck backed in. I asked them to let me add dirt. Would have only taken a few minutes as I had the dirt and a backhoe. They said no it would be fine. Then that happened.
If you're going to make a video with constant moving you need to get a gyro for the camera. Who wants to watch your bobbing up and down and all around. I would have loved to see the whole thing but a few minutes of viewing made me nauseous.
Not everybody has professional equipment or is a pro. I was walking backwards as the truck was pulling in. I was hit by a car when I was 13 and have a short leg which doesn't help either. Thanks for the compliments
helihoot You can’t figure out why? 🤦♂️ 2 big reasons. Big hole at end of pad causing the trailer to be too low. No site compaction to allow their equipment to do the job it is designed to do. For all of your misplaced negativity I am sure they have talked for a while complaining about how crappy your setup was.
I would have used 3/4 minus road mix and compacted it over 3/4 drain rock or even pit run if I needed a water absorbing surface. I notice you did not even compact the soil outside the drain rock area. Looks like a good rain will have mud flowing onto your drain rock from the hillside.
OK this shed has been here now since 2012. With all of the nasty comments and criticism, as you can see here it's holding up perfectly well. www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
Nice shed an it still looks nice and they have a neat system to move buildings,but I was thinking the stone needed compacted too. Awesome videos by the way.
helihoot I agree with the draining better with stone. But absolutely no issues with pressure treated lumber on concrete. Most stick built homes today use PT lumber as sill plates and basement framing.
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you need 2 4/8 3/4 ply wood sheets for the machine to run on as one go under the other one is coming under the machine pull the first one out and put it Behind the machine to back up on so it will not sink in the stone good luck
You just won the grand prize for the absolute best comment on my video. You were polite and I wish I thought of that while this was happening. Thank you!
thanks kido that is the way to do it so you don't sink in the soft ground see ya
Thats what I was thinking the whole time. a little painful to watch because so much work/time could have been saved.
Franklin Whateley thank you. You are correct.
Franklin Whate
Nothing worse than a know it all standing over you rendering advise.
After reading the comments, I think you get the idea of everything you’ve done wrong and now you’ve learned something. One thing I will mention though god bless those drivers for being so patient, most people would have popped that guy in the mouth.
Most cities and towns will classify the shed as permanent if it is on a cement base. Thus it is taxable. This men did a great job considering the conditions. Gravel should have been compacted by renting a machine. Very impressive shed.
Ya this clown is an idiot......I am not worried about an inch but half an inch........then telling them they learned something......
It's always taxable even when on stone.
suggest compacting the gravel with a rented gasoline powered mechanical vibrating compactor before moving heavy loads on gravel, otherwise gouges will get things out of level. I know it's too late for this project, but for any other people watching this, that is a key element to getting this sort of thing right in the future. And that doesn't really cost much to rent.
I would have refused to put the building on that soft rock until he compacted it with a 1000# compactor. The building will sink and not consistent.
Its not soft rock LOL. This is common practice. 3/4 crushed stone works well for this application. My rock bed is fully enclosed by the timbers which contains the stone. Compacting 3/4 is a waste of time. The guys should have put plywood down. In the end it came out great. Been there now for 6 years and perfect. So why are people so fucking rude?
7 years later and it looks great! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Those hitches/trailers are incredible. Saw one up close and personal 20 years ago when we had a mobile home ‘shoe-horned’ onto our property. Amazing.
My pictures look kinda similar to the ones he’s taking!
They should have gotten 2 sheets of plywood to go under the wheels backing up onto them to keep from sinking into the gravel moving the front one to the back as you go. That’s to simple even for 3 men to think about. Of course I’m a women and we find a way to get things done the simple way
@@lindadalton2668 you mean like the comment pinned at the top of the comments a year ago? But i am mere woman and i figure out simple way HOORAA!!!
Lesson learned. Use a compactor, wet down, then compact again to get a firm base to drive on. Looks like a great shed.
Thanks Jim. Unfortunately clean 3/4 stone does not compact much at all even wet.
"I'm not worried about an inch"... Great...LOL
Typical home owner prep work. done wrong, but still wants them to waste there time for him to fix it as they go. I loved the comment " hold on, I want this done right " Well, then you should have prepared it correctly before they came.
Here it is after 7 years. What is your problem? www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
Very nice color scheme on your building!! I like the red and black!! I am in the process of buying a metal garage!!
Wow less than an hour. Cool. I had been wondering how long it takes them. We are going to be ordering one of the cabins with the same foot print as your garage here soon.
The owner did not have enough gravel placed to account for the weight and settlement of the shed. Also when it rains the shed is going to sink even more. He need to rethink that shed installation. I hope he had drainage installed. Great looking shed and great delivery and installation.
I am the owner. Did you watch the linked video that shows the preparation pictures? I used a full triaxle load of 3/4 crushed stone. 23 tons. Minimum 8" deep. Deeper on the lower side because I graded a slope in the ground so the water wouldn't pool. Also added a pvc drain at the lowest point. Shed has been there for over 5 years now and barely settled.
How did you decide what the minimum depth should be?
The shed companies recommend 3-4" min
That is beautiful and you have excellent land home and the perfect get away!!God Bless you!!
Thank you so much for the rare positive comment.
Nice shed, great delivery equipment, poor videogaphy.
Walking with a cell phone camera
I had to quit watching when my eyes started hurting at 12;00 min
Good. Thanks for watching. I got paid through adsense
Not everybody has professional equipment or is a pro. I was walking backwards as the truck was pulling in. I was hit by a car when I was 13 and have a short leg which doesn't help either. Thanks for the compliments
Genuine 18th Century camera stabilisation.
I put my gravel in 3 months before the building. The gravel here is crushed limestone. It kind of binds together so I had no problems. My building is only a 20 footer too. I can understand wanting gravel. But maybe that was a bit too much. But then thats just Monday morning quarterbacking. They really need to give a copy of this video to all new buyers.
The shed will deform with time. The underground gravel should always be compacted.
Its definitely not the fault from the guys who have delivered it.I also wonder why there was not build a drive-in ramp to the platform.......But why make something proper,when you can do correctional work after finishing?
Do some research on 3/4" stone and it's characteristics. It barely compacts. Rain has no effect on rock.
Here it is after 7 years. What is your problem? www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
Hypocrite!
@@lucifer0001 explain?
@@helihoot I don't have an electronic dictionary handy.
I believe it all comes down to communication between the purchaser and the delivery group. I deliver prebuilts with a knuckle boom and have had real good success to date. Delivery areas are never ideal but with patience I can usually make things work. If I know the area I'm delivering to to be difficult, I'll drive there to assess the situation.
I should emphasize not sheds this big but I have delivered 10'x16' by boom.
The dirt hill wasn't the issue, the stones were the issue. Either too deep, not compacted, or not course. But it's all good in the end
you're right the stones were wayyyyyyyy too deep! it wasn't even the compaction.
Felt like I was on a sailboat in a bad storm.
I put gravel 6" thick when I made my concrete driveway and the gravel was just like this, So I got a lawn roller out and kept going back and forth and you wouldn't believe how nice and flat and hard it makes it. The stones will seat against each other. If you have rolled this, those small tires wouldn't have sunk in at all.
Ok who ever install the rock bed should have compacted it down with a compacter and it would have been a lot more solid to drive on.
Meldagon1 it is just like compacting washed sand you can't do it
Really? my driveway is made of crushed rock and is compacted down so hard that you would have to have a jack hammer in order to make a hole in it. furthermore sand on the other hand can be compacted to the point of being as strong as concrete. Sorry but i'm really not believing that you really know what you are talking about. but it is your opinion.
Aren't some kinds of gravel compactable, while other kinds will not compact?
I would have charged you more for telling me how to do my job
You are only there for a day. I live with it after it's done
the guys done a great job looks like to me it should have been sit on concrete i think id charged extra for the set up
Wood on concrete is a no-no. Wood wicks moisture out of concrete. A good architect always specifies a waterproof barrier between wood joists and cement in building construction.
Here it is after 7 years. www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
@@helihoot very nice shed/garage! I really like the design of yours. Looks really good now seeing it all together with the roof. Do you mind me asking what it cost 7 years ago? Don't mind all the jackasses in the comments keyboard critiques, i imagine it was tough trying to film, trying to make sure it's the way you want it, make sure the stone was on grade again, and getting it perfectly centered. Those trailers and mules are really nice! When we take any equipment into homeowners yards we use plastic 4x8 mats to not tear up their yard. The 4x8 sheets of 3/4 would do the same leap frogging the 2 sheets. Very nice building!
@@BuggysTowJam The negatives are really disheartening. We all have different personalities and I know if I met most of these people face to face they wouldn't have the balls to say what they say on line. Thank you so much for the compliments. Like I said many times, those people (installers) are here one time and after they leave it's ours forever. So I like to make sure it's done right. I think they made a mistake in driving that mule on the stone. They should have put mats down. In the end I didn't dis them and the job came out great. Thanks again.
@@helihoot Sorry, but that gravel needed to be compacted and then the mule wouldn't have sunk like it did. No big deal really it all worked out in the end. It's amazing the tight places those guys can get a shed into isn't it?
@@bbrown6057 you can compact that stone and it will tear right up the way they drove on it with the weight of that building. If I would have known I would have trown a couple of sheets of plywood down under the mule. Ye it's really amazing. Those trailers are custom made in Lancaster, PA I believe.
not a bad video. I like the close up of your boots lol. in the uk sheds arrive flat packed.
steve grover Thank you my freind.
I'm a contractor lol your very very right for being there and watching them to make sure they are doing it right and not taking shortcuts. the only issue is not being experienced you probably won't catch every shortcut taken but will realize it long after its too late lol. I learned the hard way after having numerous teams of contractors working on my house the past few weeks. omg of the 5 teams only 1 of them done a job I didn't have to call back on. it's been a nightmare!
You missed your calling, you should be in the obstacle course building business. Did you not realize how low the approach to your "site" was and that they would be using a low trailer? (oh yea, you said: "I thought that it might be a problem" ... " I can put some dirt in there with my front end loader"). Why didn't you already have it reasonably level before they got there? It's not their fault that they had such a hard time getting it set in place, they were trying their damndest, but they were working against a very poorly prepared site.
The reason I was going through and watching videos is because I'm getting a 16 x 32 building. I promise you the people delivering mine will have a much better prepared site.
Thanks for showing everybody what NOT to do when preparing a site to set a building.
Oh ... also, I'm feeling sea sick from trying to watch your video.
I could have dropped and packed some dirt at the end there within minutes. They said no, its fine. Hey Mike (me), thank you for taking the time to record the event and post it. Sorry its shaky. I used a cell phone and was walking.
Make sure your pad sits for at least a month or run a sprinkler on it. They wouldn't have had such a hard time if the gravel pad had settled first. apeared to have just been done. That's one of the biggest things I hated. Everyone thinks you can put a pad in and use it the next day.
Rich McGarvey
You can put a pad in and use it the next day.
It’s called using a compactor.
@@Crewsy look it up. How much does 3/4 crushed stone compact?
I appreciate the video. Amazing how many nasty negative trolls out there to criticize.
rich650100 Like I commented earlier, amazing how evil some people can be.
Should have compacted the gravel, that would have prevented a sinking situation and provided a sturdy base that would not need to settle! One way of preventing cement cracks is by compacting the material under it before pouring!
4 years now. Base is perfect
helihoot I just meant that it would have been easier for that truck pulling it into place, instead of it sinking like that!
Is that kind of gravel compactable?
I don’t understand why people who use that stone don’t compact it with concrete mixing powder/dust. When I built my backyard shop I spread a few bags of concrete mix over top then raked it over to mix in thoroughly, compact the stone a little, lightly water, mix again and compact it again before it dries! Having done that made it durable and my tractor didn’t sink in and dig into the stone!
looking at your elevation it would drained anyways away from the shed but nice looking setup now pour cement in the walkway you got it made
As you can see, the ground under the stone falls away so water goes through the stone and drains down the hill. I even put a drain in. www.getdieselpower.com/Content/Pictures/Sharon/Shed/Shed_Base/IMG_7578.JPG
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the problem is The Rock was never compacted
If a feller had the money to buy a building looks like he would be smart enough to have a concrete slab to put it on
Not sure why so many people like to take jabs at the owner (me) without before politely asking why. A slab isnt the best thing to sit wood on. The wood draws moisture out of the slab and rots faster than sitting on a bed of stone that is always dry. The other reason I didn't go slab is I can easily relocate it if I choose. Local zoning might make me move it some day since it encroaches into the twp land. Here it is at 7 years old www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
My scoring for this video. Out of 10 each.
Site prep. 2
Looks great but no compaction of the gravel and low delivery point brought the score down.
Delivery of shed. 12
Excellent equipment that can do amazing things. Bonus points for getting it done on such a poorly prepared site.
Videography. -3
Some of the videography was as handy as a pocket on a shirt but we didn’t need to see the pocket for 2 minutes. Should have edited that out. The shaky camera work probably made some people sea sick.
Best comment during the install.
“Take your time. I want it done right.” 😂
If you (helihoot) had taken the time to compact the gravel and had the “I thought that would be a problem” low spot filled in or had planks available if the low spot is meant to be there for truck loading from that door then the delivery guys would have had the shed delivered and been gone before the gravel was disturbed.
They were hoping they could just back it up and drop it. I think it is up to the homeowner to level the ground before delivery. Seems the owner knew there was going to be a problem and should not have waited until the last min to resolve the problem. I bet the delivery men didn't even get a tip. In the end, Persistence pays off I watched a couple of previous deliveries of Amish sheds and people do use gravel as a foundation, depends on soil type, I guess. We have clay so poor drainage, wouldn't work on our land. Difficult to watch the video, but the comments gave me the best entertainment and laughs I've had in some time.
No I did not know it was going to be a problem. t was only about 6" low but the shed was so long that by the time the extended it over the base, it started to hit. I wanted them to pull it out and let me put some dirt there to raise it up so they could back it all the way. Would have only taken a couple minute. I have a backhoe.
I would make sure that when a customer is making their own deep stone pad that they compact it and surrounding ground knowing the weight going on it , and delivery should carry some construction mats to drive over in this circumstance(soft terrain).
I did my research. 3/4 stone barely compacts. And even if i did that machine still would have done the same. they screwed up. If they let me add more dirt in the front like I suggested so they could have raised the shed higher they could have backed it the whole way with the truck. I had a backhoe there and dirt but they said no this is fine. Bottom line it's been there now for 8 years with no issues with the base.
bad camera dude..almost lost my cookies.
ok it got better... ah shit nope
Fun project to watch, in spite of poor camera work. Make people motion sick just trying to watch.
Richard Fox sorry about that. Thanks for one of the few positive comments. The world is going downhill fast.
Think I would of used the mule on boards laid down that wouldn't of moved the gravel at all. Then just lift it up pull the boards out eezy peezy. As far as your video skills go not bad for using a phone. Come on guys this is a guy who bought a shed not a Hollywood director geez cut him a bit of slack.Yep I would keep some plywood on hand to use on gravel pads would of worked great. Nice vid helihoot.
Thank you Alex.
Can you move it 4 inches that way. I want my gravel under the shed no one is ever going to see level, Can you pull it back out?
Interesting film.
Of the gravel and their feet.
Thanks for the compliments
I think I would have had it built by someone on site
If you go to the video titled "One Man Show - Delivery & Set up of 12x20 Storage Shed", you will see a better set-up man- knows how to drive what looks like the same dolly truck- just retracts the steering wheels as they are not needed if done properly. Don't blame the owner.
Why did you build a water hole in front of the garage door ?
gerald smith h
That got all filled in and graded out later.
gerald smith It's well drained with pipe
This idiot home owner just had to put all that gravel on top knowing that this would be very heavy. I hope he compensated them for it.
You obviously have no clue about options for these sheds do you?
thats why that size stone is used for emergency truck pits on steep mountains
hapy budha not true. Shed has been there for 6 years. Sits perfect. Drains well.
where's the horse & buggy?
Let me give you a word of wise for SAFETY SAKE. PLEASE... Get your mirrors mounted on top of the cab. The way you have them mounted, when running down the highway, if someone in the oncoming traffic ran into your mirror, the mirror bar could (and has happened) slice thru windshield and decapitate occupants or at the very least injure the driver. Very dangerous to have mirrors mounted below occupants like they are. How do I know this you ask? I have been in the mobile home transporting business for 40 years. Toters use to mount mirror bar below windshield, which was more convinent to adjust mirror extension. After a few years and some tragedies they stopped mounting mirror bars this way. Great video and nice job getting load delivered successfully.
I am getting seasick. Two words TRI POD !
Yeah, I got to agree .the movers did a Great Job, Owner should have sat in the house!!
You have a 10K building brought in and you sit in the house while they are doing it. You only deal with them one day. You live with the result forever.
There is a saying some might like to think on ..... "He who pays the piper calls the tunes!"
Having said that, it may have been an idea to run it through a video editor?
As to the gravel .... you can compact anything ..... bu some are sold to be compacted (there are several different grades of rock mixed in so the smaller ones interlock with the larger ones) and some that are not!
There is only one person who knows the full story of who said what to who and what was both promised and required .... and it isn't me so I will not pass judgement on eather side! Those rose coloured glasses are far too easy to use so can we all stop bickering and play nice? ..... I'll get me coat! ;0)
Dave W I am the homeowner. I don't care about edits. This this raw footage and I'm not hiding anything. Short answer. Shed has been there for many years now and is beautiful. Nothing more needs to be said. The guys were there for a day. I have to live with the results for the rest of my life. I'm sure all you big critics never displayed this type of behavior with a 10k purchase.
I agree ..... Hence the first line ;0)
I realize this is a 2012 video, but it is a perfect example of why an owner can not video his own project. A large part of the time the camera is not pointed at what it should be focused on; the camera jerks around too much, almost making the viewer seasick. A tripod set up on the back corner would have been a much better idea.
How many comments have I gotten on my camera work... millions. How many thank you's?... a few. This was spur of the moment.
Wuauuu he make very good job. Congratulations from Canary islands _Spain.
Those had to be some nice guys
You call that a shed? It's more like a mobile home.
Man, that was a project. Should have poured a slab.
I should have given you a thumbs up for boring me to sleep.
Your are welcome. There is a bar at the bottom of the video you can move ahead for all you cry babies
@@helihoot I'd laugh all the way to the bank if i were you. You're a smart man i can tell just from the prep work you did do, we all make errors sometimes and in hindsight I'm sure you would've brought the grade up a little with tamped dirt now I'm hindsight. But i think you did a helluva job in the drainage forethought and level pad. And you're even smarter to reply to all of the haters and trolls. Because like you said your still getting paid for their views and then all the interaction also helps your channel. So be it, positive or negative comments. The more they leave the more they come back to your video making you more money. Wise man, you are! Thumbs up! And thank you for taking the time to make and share your video! I appreciate your efforts!
@@BuggysTowJam yea but I though maybe people could learn from what I did. I like to research but that doesn't mean when you are done researching you make the decisions everybody on earth agrees with. It's sad to see how some people comment with disdain and ignorance.
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I'm looking at the 12' x 22' version of your shed/garage. Are you happy with the craftsmanship of it? Would you recommend Riehl sheds to a prospective buyer? Were you able to haggle the price down a bit at all or did you have to pay full retail? Any sales tax charged? Sorry for all the questions but I think you'd be the best person to ask since I'm seriously considering getting one of these shed/garages from Riehl. Thanks!
+hookypilot
The shed is very well built. I highly recommend them. I haggled a lower price on the cupola
Thanks for your comments! So they wouldn't budge at all with the main price?
+hookypilot No
@Gez501 because if I ask and the drop the price I pay less.
Site preparations
should have road base under the rock would alot harder to make ruts
I hear you but I like the better drainage
Should have put those 2x4s down and backed the trailer tires up on them...problem solved...
You are absolutely correct. I tried to tell them we should raise the trailer but they wouldn't listen.
They wouldn't listen because you were annoying them. If someone constantly ignores you (like these guys had to do) then stop offering them you unsolicited tripe. The foundation was you responsibility. How did you expect them to drive over that loose crap?
I guess, next time you will compact the stone.
Nice but you were looking at the ground most of the time. Nice shed though!
Dan S thank you
That man has serious issues.fair play to 2 guys
Hmm, uncompacted scalpings = man-made quicksand.
Well done all around, The trolls can only bellyache.......:0)
Johnny Gee I don’t think it’s considered trolls bellyaching when it’s true! The gravel should have been compacted with a machine and a ramp to the pad should have been built!!!
@@barstad-9591 so you think you can compact 3/4" Delaware 57 stone with no dust in it, do you? You think that would've made any difference? Bedding stone will settle, but it takes a long time. On big job sites I've ran huge vibratory roller compactors over 3/4 stone. And afterwards pickup trucks would drive over it and make ruts like that mules little tire did. In smaller trenches where i was laying pipe and using being stone around the pipe I've tried compacting it with a tamp and that was useless. Until i added crusher run that has stone dust in it or select that was the only things i could get to compact. Unless it was ammesite and rolled to compaction. But bedding stone, no you're wasting your time thinking you'll get compaction from tamping it or rolling it. Now people have used 3/4 stone for driveways and after a good long while it will settle and compact if it's constantly driven over. But that's not what this is or was. As for this job, since the delivery guys didn't opt for the homeowner to add some dirt in the gully when they assessed where the building was going, and take him up on his offer. That's on them not him. As for the sinking mule, if they do this job daily i guarantee you this isn't the first time they've encountered 3/4"stone base. And in that event they'd have seen the back smaller tire of the mule make ruts. Not to mention this was a very large heavy building, bigger then most common 12x24 sheds and the ruts they made with the drive tires of the mule were also unacceptable. This man spent a day or more prepping raking grading screeding that stone to be level and on grade. And it was obvious by watching the video if the homeowner didn't grab the rake and relevel those ruts the delivery guys weren't going to, they were trying to continue backing up until the homeowner asked him to slow down and stop to get it right. All humans make periodic mistakes and have brain farts. But that doesn't mean every two finger typist needs to leave negative or derogatory comments to a man who simply uploaded a video that he wanted to take and share on the Web.
@@barstad-9591 and just to set the record straight i don't like your comment. But if you're viewing on a phone youtube as i am. I don't get notified if people reply to my comments unless they like my comment. That i get notified for and if i happen to go back to the video of the comment i left that is liked and see a reply. That's the only way i know someone replied to me. And i want you to see my reply to you.
Use 1 inch plywood under the wheels.
What a can of worms! Could of should of would of!
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The homeowner was a little to much for me. The guys obviously have done this once or twice, shut up and let them work.
Chris S I'm the homeowner. If you stopped over we'd have a beer and shoot the shit. Those guys were here for a day. I live with the results for the rest of my life.
Guess you should have followed the compacted gravel bases instructions
Why? Been there 6 years now. Sits perfect. 3/4 clean crushed stone compacted would have done the same thing. It barely packs but it drains the best.
hows the shed holding up after 4 years?
Perfect except for the time I drove my zero turn out of it and didnt have the garage door up all the way. I hear a loud bang. The ROPS bar hit the door and bent it up real bad. I straightened it out and reset it. Look fine from the house LOL
brilliant views of the ground....
Beautiful scenery.. where is this?
Thank you. Garnet Valley, PA
@@helihoot i grew up on Naamans Creek Rd couple houses down from 202. Went to concord elementary and garnet valley hs, that was back in the early 80s. Used to ride my bike to work on a farm shavertown rd to kirk rd. On the corner of kirk and Smithbridge was the farm. It's all gone now and huge houses. The house we lived in a cape cod my grandfather built in the early 1960s after my father sold it in the late 80s a few people bought and sold it and then a developer came in and picked the house up and moved it closer to the road in front of our neighbors house at the time and bought the other neighbors property and built quite a few same style attached cape cod townhouses like it Graystone Dr i think it's called now. Funny how it changes over time. Now I'm in Smyrna Delaware and doubt we could afford to move back up there. Between taxes and property values now, that's for the elite or those who bought years ago and held onto the property.
I want to know what kind of trailer that is I want it.
Custom made. Place in Lancaster PA
@@helihoot I'm in Delaware what's the place in Lancaster you used?
Great job
Here it is after 7 years. www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
You should be charged double for "helping".
Fuck you
That's down right cool!
Think I probably would of made a concrete slab to set it on though.
I hear you but I had good reason not to go concrete, partly due to code issues with the township. One reason stone can be better is the 4x4 rails underneath sitting on drained rock is better than wood sitting directly on concrete.
Let's put down a bed gravel instead of a concrete slab, because raking is relaxing. That's a top of the line hillbilly methlab, most impressive.
Concrete rots the wood smartass. Stone drains it instantly away from below.
NEXT TIME DON'T BE CHEAP PUT IN A CEMENT SLAB
9:15 How does that shift happens?
There is a set of hydraulically driven wheel under the trailer that lift it and go sideways.
Sorry Helihoot it's ure fault the rocks weren't solid as you now know it should of been tampered down more,then more,then more,then somemore
"14 x 32. To all who criticize in the comments, if you know so much then why are you watching?" ANSWER: because everyone like watching a train wreck. and your prep work was a train wreck !
bos dad Read the pinned comment. Been using this shed for years now. No issues.
Here it is after 7 years. What is your problem? www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
Camera man could just shut up and watch! Do camera man stuff!
Is that a 14' x 24' shed/garage?
14 x 36
Get yourself a Sony FDR-AX53 4K camcorder. That bad-boy will give you a STEADY picture for future handheld videoing !
perhaps the owner thought you were using a helicopter......I was in the mobile home delivery business for many years, no one ever understood the use of clean,loose stone and trying to drive over it. I am no longer in that profession.
They weren't supposed to drive over it. The idea was to back up all the way and drop it right where it needed to be. Unfortunately the ground and was about 8" too low where the truck backed in. I asked them to let me add dirt. Would have only taken a few minutes as I had the dirt and a backhoe. They said no it would be fine. Then that happened.
Could you educate us on the use of clean, loose stone?
If you're going to make a video with constant moving you need to get a gyro for the camera. Who wants to watch your bobbing up and down and all around. I would have loved to see the whole thing but a few minutes of viewing made me nauseous.
Not everybody has professional equipment or is a pro. I was walking backwards as the truck was pulling in. I was hit by a car when I was 13 and have a short leg which doesn't help either. Thanks for the compliments
was this their first time....
+savagenomore
No they have been in business for quite a while. Not sure why they sucked at getting the shed onto the stone.
Probably because the site wasn't accepting, (and you knew it)
helihoot
You can’t figure out why? 🤦♂️
2 big reasons.
Big hole at end of pad causing the trailer to be too low.
No site compaction to allow their equipment to do the job it is designed to do.
For all of your misplaced negativity I am sure they have talked for a while complaining about how crappy your setup was.
I guess compacting the rock was not part of preparing a solid foundation. I guess he did not use Amish sense to prepare the site.
Do some research on compacting 3/4 crushed stone..
I would have used 3/4 minus road mix and compacted it over 3/4 drain rock or even pit run if I needed a water absorbing surface. I notice you did not even compact the soil outside the drain rock area. Looks like a good rain will have mud flowing onto your drain rock from the hillside.
...cameraman drunk or something else?
ioannis simiakakis walking backwards
OK this shed has been here now since 2012. With all of the nasty comments and criticism, as you can see here it's holding up perfectly well. www.getdieselpower.com/gallery/_data/i/upload/2017/06/24/20170624065230-63990f4e-me.jpg
helihoot , looks fantastic
Nice shed an it still looks nice and they have a neat system to move buildings,but I was thinking the stone needed compacted too. Awesome videos by the way.
concete pad would have been nice
Stone drains better underneath. Less chance of rot. Wood on concrete is a no-no.
helihoot I agree with the draining better with stone. But absolutely no issues with pressure treated lumber on concrete. Most stick built homes today use PT lumber as sill plates and basement framing.
+helihoot, Thanks for the video, awesome to see them get through those tight spots and get it set down.
I just threw up....... I'm so dizzy... was good til he clipped the camera to his hat...
I would of fired these guys and sent the shed back! Look at the back door on the left side half way up! DAMAGE!!
+Karen Lavoy When they came back on Sat they built the roof and painted everything that needed painting. They were great.
i think they no what they are doing lol
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT AN INCH
Sorry, had to negative thumb because person need learn where he aiming his camera
I used a fucking cell phone and was walking backwards half the time. Thanks for the thanks. I didn't have to record it and put it on face book at all.
This is YOUTube but thanks for sharing. Compacted would have been better, However as log as you don't get a earthquake you will be fine.
helihoot
Getting a little angry? 😡
How were you holding your effing cell phone when you recorded your pocket for 2 minutes?
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What company built this shed back in 2012? SturdiShed?
Tom Stachler Reihl Quality Sheds in Kinzers PA right accross from Rough and Tumble on 30 in Lancaster
Poor after thought installation
If you wanted it right you should of done the rocks right in the first place,sorry ure mess up!!
Could you be moving the camera anymore???
Mike sheehan I was walking