Shikamaru has DOOMED Konoha..

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @slytunkhamen600
    @slytunkhamen600 13 часов назад +127

    Naruto would be like "Maybe I can convince Jura I am not that tasty and we can live as friends"

    • @dytgyfgyffuh243
      @dytgyfgyffuh243 12 часов назад +10

      I wloud not be surprised if naruto does try to use talk no jutsu on jura

    • @BlaireSnorlax
      @BlaireSnorlax 11 часов назад +12

      Jura is built to counter talk no jutsu, bro's definitely gonna be a philosophy nerd.

    • @My_Rythm
      @My_Rythm 10 часов назад +8

      @@BlaireSnorlax now I want to see the debate lol

    • @justgamingbro1305
      @justgamingbro1305 Час назад +1

      Not gonna lie Jura seems like a bro fr he really chilln, polite, will turn a blind eye 😂

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 13 часов назад +167

    “Shikamaru would be a great Hokage if he weren’t so lazy” Asuma Sarutobi (Cigarretes got to his brain”

    • @vetodaartist7797
      @vetodaartist7797 13 часов назад +5

      "cigarettes" 😅

    • @ninodeyz5799
      @ninodeyz5799 12 часов назад +9

      Naaaa him and Amado be lighting up loool

    • @vetodaartist7797
      @vetodaartist7797 12 часов назад +8

      @@ninodeyz5799💯💯💯 of course... Why dyu think dey so smart?! 🍃🔥

    • @ninodeyz5799
      @ninodeyz5799 12 часов назад +3

      @@vetodaartist7797 😎😎

    • @DammnDeejay
      @DammnDeejay 11 часов назад

      He just needed the right reason. The “king” that Asuma would teach Shikamaru about is happening in full swing. Shikamaru is the ONLY hokage that suits this task

  • @kenkaneki8809
    @kenkaneki8809 13 часов назад +120

    I like how this highlights that, since Naruto is out of the picture, the Shinobi have gone back to their old ways, Naruto was the shinning light of the Shinobi world, he made the other Shinobi and nations to try to be better without going against their morals. Now that he's gone they've lost they light and have gone back to the dark past, of konoha exploiting people which lead to dire consequences which lead , the Uchiha genocide, turning rin into the three tails and which lead to the Shinobi world wars. Just to say all these "Shinobi actions" came with a massive repercussions

    • @justinthomas5788
      @justinthomas5788 13 часов назад +3

      Facts🔥🔥

    • @band0945
      @band0945 12 часов назад +3

      Cook

    • @ds1edits69
      @ds1edits69 12 часов назад +5

      Yet people were hating on naruto cause of the hidden rain thing

    • @DarthAlphaTheGreat
      @DarthAlphaTheGreat 12 часов назад +5

      And there is a new sun that needs to take his place. But he is currently hidden behind the clouds of confusion…and omnipotence.

    • @kazverse17
      @kazverse17 12 часов назад +9

      Since you put it like that it feels like Naruto was more samurai than a shinobi lmao

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 13 часов назад +51

    Arguably this IS Shikamaru not compromising his morals. His mentor was murdered by the physical personification of evil, a man who had killed probably _thousands_ of non-combatants for money. The Shinju aren't nearly as malicious as Hidan but they're significantly more dangerous because they're operating on pure impulse and instinct and you can't really trust that not to suddenly hurt a loved one. A domesticated tiger is still a wild animal.

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 12 часов назад +2

      Disregarding power level, hidan is more dangerous. Bro was a literal psychopath the others are just more powerful

    • @biohazard724
      @biohazard724 11 часов назад +9

      @kleatise52 Having that level of power and no impulse control and a predator drive makes them more dangerous in my opinion, it's akin to having multiple Buu's roaming around. Ryu even states before team 7+ showed up he was gonna just wander around murdering any Shinobi he saw, just because he could, and Ryu is the weaker of the pair. Hidan is certainly extremely threatening but he's in essence a serial killer and serial killers are predictable.

    • @psypsy751
      @psypsy751 10 часов назад +4

      If anything, this showcases the paper-thin morals of everyone else. The difference between a regular Ten-tails and a Shinju is that the latter is anthropomorphic, that's it. Where it a beast-shaped beast, this would be NO moral quandary. Can you convince them to NOT kill anyone else? Probably. Does that mean giving up on the comrades whose bodies they used to attain that anthropomorphosis? Absolutely. Even if we weren't talking about getting Sasuke back, a major help in the whole world's defenses, it would still be right to take down the Shinju with the least possible casualties.

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 10 часов назад +2

      @@biohazard724 what’s worse, someone that kills everyone they see for religion unless they are an ally or someone that might kill you but might be convinced not to. Lol I mean cmon these characters could never walk up to hidan and try to be friendly.

  • @shanedjspeedanthony
    @shanedjspeedanthony 12 часов назад +27

    It may not be "morally" the right decision.......... HOWEVER, "situationally" it's the BEST course of action Shikamaru has taken with the current situation.
    In my opinion!!

    • @DammnDeejay
      @DammnDeejay 11 часов назад

      On the surface, yes. But in real time, It’s not. Betrayal has never gotten good results. Especially with enemies as strong as the Shinju and Jura in particular. This plan relies too heavily on mind games. I think Shikamaru knows this plan will fail at some point, but it’s just enough to buy him enough time to think of a counterplan

    • @jaideepreddy3935
      @jaideepreddy3935 3 часа назад

      if sending team 7 would have such a big repurcussion then kashin koji would have warned shikamaru about it beforehand, the fact that he didn't means the chance of it happening is very less

  • @pushin40k
    @pushin40k 13 часов назад +25

    Realistically, in both chess and shogi, you have to make risky moves that appear to jeopardize the game plan. I really hope Kohohamaru finds a better way though

  • @ClareBearBunny
    @ClareBearBunny 13 часов назад +30

    This is what good character writing looks like.

  • @benogle4951
    @benogle4951 13 часов назад +40

    2:56 so does that make Konoha roughly tree level

  • @markr8954
    @markr8954 11 часов назад +20

    Based on this video, I’d assume the Naruto like character in Konohamaru won’t be able to kill Matsuri while the New Age Sand siblings will kill Ryu + take Thorn Bulb, all with some other troubles that pop up

  • @bigyoshi5170
    @bigyoshi5170 13 часов назад +34

    “This universe really is a drag.” -Shikamaru
    *Universe explodes*
    Shikamaru is clearly universal in power

    • @Bj-fq2sj
      @Bj-fq2sj 13 часов назад +1

      😂😂😂😂 that’s hilarious

    • @My_Rythm
      @My_Rythm 10 часов назад +1

      @@bigyoshi5170 you guys are hilarious 😂

  • @Robertjb1216
    @Robertjb1216 4 часа назад +4

    UNLESS...Shikamru is intentionally playing on Konohomarus feelings by using his genuis intellect to know this is the only way to achieve the desired outcome.
    I'm just throwing darts at the board, but everytime Shikamaru makes a play, we as the viewer often are mislead by his initial actions only to see the real plan unfold.

  • @biggiemunch
    @biggiemunch 12 часов назад +8

    I had perceived this move as something even Shikamaru was disgusted with but was goaded into it by Kashin Koji since we see the toad on Shikamaru's shoulder when Konohamaru asked who his source was

  • @caseydanielllle
    @caseydanielllle 13 часов назад +29

    you have made my boyfriends christmas eve because i recently made him watch all of naruto and shippuden and he has the most unnecessary beef with Shikamaru 😂 i just sent him a screenshot of this video and his response is literally, “more like shitamaru amirite” and im CACKLING

    • @CarlosSanchez-qi6hz
      @CarlosSanchez-qi6hz 12 часов назад +5

      I love this 😂😂😂😂

    • @My_Rythm
      @My_Rythm 10 часов назад +3

      @@caseydanielllle now I wonder who he likes the most in Naruto 😂

    • @caseydanielllle
      @caseydanielllle 9 часов назад

      @@My_Rythm i’ll ask him! 😂 he makes fun of me because i will SCREAM any time someone mentions that FUCKING KABUTO WAS ALLOWED TO LIVE I MEAN COME ONNNNN

    • @EeveetoUmbreon25
      @EeveetoUmbreon25 9 часов назад

      What the fuck did he do wrong before this?😭

    • @yurinoworry
      @yurinoworry 8 часов назад

      @@My_Rythmprobably Danzo

  • @dragonmasterjoe724
    @dragonmasterjoe724 5 часов назад +1

    I don’t know about the US but right now in England it’s 50 minutes into the 25th of December so if you celebrate Christmas, merry Christmas, I personally am Jewish so I while I won’t be doing Christmas funny enough this year the first day of Hanukkah is today so that’s fun.
    Anyway you made my year this year and your amazing so whatever you celebrate have fun!

  • @shadow-faye
    @shadow-faye 7 часов назад +10

    Ah yes, the one flaw in Shikamaru's plan
    He isn't aware hes a fictional character in a story with an agenda

  • @d1wav
    @d1wav 9 часов назад +7

    Rule number 1 of being a shinobi.
    LEARN TO SEE THROUGH DECEPTION!
    JURA has read books about shinobi. He told Ryu things about the Konoha Shinobi. Ryu didn’t say everything Jura told them. Ryu is also playing mind games. That’s why he says “FOR REALS” Shinki as a character has always been on guard and when you think you’ve fooled him. He’s fooled you. Watch his fight with Mitsuki again…

  • @jerviasjohnson700
    @jerviasjohnson700 11 часов назад +28

    Matsuri: *gets betrayed*
    Matsuri: “You know who isn’t human… PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!”

    • @DammnDeejay
      @DammnDeejay 10 часов назад

      @@jerviasjohnson700 oof. That cuts deep. Especially if that’s said to Shikamaru

    • @SpammytheHedgehog
      @SpammytheHedgehog 8 часов назад +1

      Elfen Lied reference

  • @XavierBailey-p2f
    @XavierBailey-p2f 11 часов назад +8

    You forget that the divine trees are using the chakra for hostages to come into being

  • @thesourpatchkidd579
    @thesourpatchkidd579 11 часов назад +9

    I don't think this would have a negative affect on Jura in the way you think. I think the way this will backfire is that it will work- and Jura will learn more about humanity. We know that he loves to learn about humanity but most of that has been in theory, from books. That's why he was so invested in the interactions of team 10 because he encountered something he couldn't conceive of. And then he learned something. That's exactly what will happen, only this time he'll learn the art of deception and emotional manipulation. Instead of turning him off to humanity it'll make him even more curious.
    Naruto's way would've been to turn him into a friend and he does that by showing people who he is. Shikamaru is showing Jura a villain, and that's exactly what he's going to end up shaping Jura into. In that way Jura, once he becomes an actual villain, will be the creation of Konoha- ironically like so many other villains that came after Konoha.
    It falls in line more with the Shinju and Jura being like wild beasts, like children, learning everything for the first time. Children learn infinitely more from watching adults interact, and the things they learn the fastest are the bad things. Once they've done enough learning they begin testing these things out, and eventually it shapes them into the person they become. Guess that means Shikamaru is also being a bad dad lol

  • @HailDarkseid
    @HailDarkseid 9 часов назад +9

    13:39 and why does it matter how they get the job done ?? When the big bad of the Story is the entire planet being consumed ???? What are we talking about

    • @chriskarimu3667
      @chriskarimu3667 7 часов назад +1

      Exactly

    • @lamar9616
      @lamar9616 7 часов назад +1

      Facts

    • @asrieldreemurr7577
      @asrieldreemurr7577 4 часа назад

      Because that's not how Naruto, the show, was written. Like Nick said, this isn't usual for the protagonists, which is why we're made to think if this is the correct way even though the plan is logical on paper.

    • @lamar9616
      @lamar9616 3 часа назад

      @@asrieldreemurr7577 nick be yapping I honestly do not take him seriously.

    • @asrieldreemurr7577
      @asrieldreemurr7577 3 часа назад

      @@lamar9616 then why are you even here?

  • @DammnDeejay
    @DammnDeejay 11 часов назад +14

    Let’s be real, Konohamaru will not betray Moegi. He’s Narutos student and he’s not heartless. Especially if his enemy isn’t either. I believe he’s gonna pull a talk no jutsu, bc he’s gonna be empathetic towards Matsuri, and convince her to merge back with Moegi bc that’s her true form, and that way, they can always be together (Konohamaru and Matsui)
    Similar to Roxas and Nomine in KH2

    • @Eforero83
      @Eforero83 10 часов назад

      Let the man cook!! 🫡

  • @KenKashi7
    @KenKashi7 9 часов назад +8

    I think in someway Shikamaru’s plans won’t go as stated. But I would rather love it if shikamaru’s does a big brain huge plot twist on everyone. I would like “the plan” to actually fail but shikamaru is like, “I actually planned it to not follow through so I can actually go fwd with the real plan”. I just don’t want him to go out like that and I think it’d be a huge redemption for shikamaru

    • @KenKashi7
      @KenKashi7 9 часов назад

      Also I like Naruto but I do hate that we kinda accepted his bad, illogical characteristics and started to believe his way is the right way. For example, he was willing to bring sasuke back and keep him as a friend, no matter what bad thing sasuke did. Like if sasuke killed so many people, did so much wrong and even at some point wanted to destroy the whole hidden leaf village at some point. I would believe if sasuke was to kill an important character like kakashi Naruto would be high mad/upset but he would still forgive him. If we’re being honest, he kinda technically deserved to died in the story but I get it, kishimoto wanted to leave a message that had a happy ending for the main character.
      So now when it comes to the shinju’s how else will we get the other characters back? So either they kill the shinjus or they actually befriend the shinjus and they actually don’t get their friends back(which I doubt).

    • @Iceking60791
      @Iceking60791 6 часов назад

      @@KenKashi7who did sasuke kill?

    • @KenKashi7
      @KenKashi7 6 часов назад

      @ sorry let me correct myself. I don’t remember any active kills but based on working for orochimaru (doing what he requests) for those years, cause we know many people died for orochimaru to advance. My main reasons for saying that is cause he had no problem saying he was going to destroy the village, he was willing to kill kakashi, Sakura, Naruto and more. So yeah I don’t remember him actively killing anyone, he’s actually not really good at that task lol (example: orochimaru, itachi, danzo and the previous I mentioned)

    • @Iceking60791
      @Iceking60791 6 часов назад +1

      @ oh okay I see I remember he actually didn’t kill anyone which is why Orochimaru called him soft or weak

  • @Ad30datus01
    @Ad30datus01 13 часов назад +15

    Shikamaru Naru??? 😂😂Nara 😂😂😂

  • @Luffymynika11
    @Luffymynika11 12 часов назад +26

    Shikamaru is already a better hokage than Naruto. Her recruited Eida, Daemon, and Amado back to the leaf after Code kidnapped Amado. He kept Kawaki in check for the past 3 years, and now a double agent working with Boruto/koji to take down the shinju.

    • @dominickwimmer9561
      @dominickwimmer9561 11 часов назад +7

      Did u not listen to what this video said?

    • @Luffymynika11
      @Luffymynika11 9 часов назад +5

      @ I did and I disagree, I think Kawaki is the reason for the leaf village destruction.

  • @travnebula
    @travnebula 9 часов назад +4

    "It's not like she's trying to unhinge her jaw to fit him in there"
    Me "Aaayyyooooo!"

  • @benogle4951
    @benogle4951 13 часов назад +20

    Couldn't orochimaru clone either Sasuke's or sarada's eyes so that she could take them and get EMS using similar principles as what we have for organ cloning

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 12 часов назад +5

      The moment we clone eyes I’m never watching this show again ngl

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 11 часов назад +4

      @kleatise52 it would be a very unsatisfying twist but at the same time it's the smartest move to do to give a character EMS and to be fair orochimaru kind of already has been doing that that's kind of the entire point of shin Uchiha

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 11 часов назад

      It makes sense to do and they could write around it by making it like you can only clone from a living sample so he couldn't clone like madera's eyes and she has to get EMS at some point or just have her mangekyou not lose their light which could work because they were awoken out of love not hatred or pain meaning her eyes aren't going further and further into the darkness so she wouldn't lose light which would be cool but at the same time kind of lame especially since EMS is a power up. And they are trying to go more sci-fi with it so having the characters make this kind of logical decision would be interesting. Because a lot of them haven't made the most logical choices like Sasuke and Naruto should have done a simple blood transfusion or something so they could awaken rinnegan because why wouldn't they

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 7 часов назад

      @@benogle4951 this is just my opinion, I think we should move farther away from cloning or anything like it. Keep it minimal and do it tastefully the hashirama cell was bad enough but now there’s shibai cells and if we literally give sarada an artificial Ems, we’re moving away from a good, grounded story.

    • @benogle4951
      @benogle4951 7 часов назад

      @kleatise52 perhaps, but they are trying to go more sci-fi with it, and honestly it's not so much that I want to see it happen but more that it would make a good video

  • @edforeman92
    @edforeman92 12 часов назад +4

    I think the war on Shinju is unavoidable because it's either this cold tactic or finding out that Shikamaru has been working with Boruto behind Jura's back. Also for Boruto to act, Jura needs to be eliminated. I don't agree with this tactic, but Shikamaru is up against the wall for helping Boruto escape the Leaf Village. His title as Hokage is at stake. Also, his decision holds the lives of Konoha in his hands. I know Naruto wouldn't allow this decision, but his gullible attitude led him to be trapped in another dimension with his wife by the person he wanted to save, which was Kawakii. I'm actually excited about the twists and turns for this manga. I can't wait to read it for the new year. I wish for anybody reading this happy holidays and an even better new year. I hope your dreams and wishes come true.

  • @MMAli-rq8kd
    @MMAli-rq8kd 11 часов назад +6

    I love the heavy influence of Swagkage's latest video in Nick's arguments here !
    Question: do you think it's Chikamaru's plan or Kashin Koji's !?

  • @chess
    @chess Час назад

    chess metaphor on nchammer Christmas Eve drop is crazy

  • @richchia92
    @richchia92 10 часов назад +3

    0:00 preamble
    3:03 main content
    21:58 closing

  • @jchillsd6600
    @jchillsd6600 9 часов назад +3

    A women’s love can turn to supreme hate.. and that’s what about to happen

  • @DavelBrown-p6w
    @DavelBrown-p6w 8 часов назад +3

    Sasuke is just as intelligent and has sometimes proven to be even more intelligent than shikamaru

  • @taylor.river7
    @taylor.river7 9 часов назад +7

    Shikamaru is in his Tobirama era! He is truly the Shadow Hokage! 👑🦌

    • @kd-rq6tl
      @kd-rq6tl 8 часов назад +3

      Tobirama was smart and could fight

    • @TheDON914
      @TheDON914 4 часа назад

      ​@@kd-rq6tland invent his own shit , an had all the 8 bijus on a whim before selling them to other villages for money 🐐

  • @cman35375
    @cman35375 12 часов назад +5

    “She’s not trying to unhinge her jaw to fit him in” hmmm you sure about that😂

    • @Knifeiamassharp
      @Knifeiamassharp 2 минуты назад

      Bro no please.... As much as I wish for it to happen.,... I have to deal with the fact this show is made for children😅😅😅😅

  • @chriskarimu3667
    @chriskarimu3667 7 часов назад +3

    In real life you have to do things like this in a war

  • @jessekappler4160
    @jessekappler4160 13 часов назад +6

    Its easy to see why Naruto and Sasuke couldn't be around. Naruto would have simply talked to the shinju and the arc woiuld be over in one page lmao. Sasuke probably would have also either talked to them, or figured out how to get Naruto back and then talked to them, and the entire arc would be over in a couple chapters.

  • @BloodravenRivers
    @BloodravenRivers 12 часов назад +3

    the moment u had me convinced was when u said, if naruto met a someone who has childlike innocence but was just ridiculously powerful his first instinct would be to a. befriend them and cut them down, or b genuinely befriend them and bring them to their side, Shikamaru messed up! i was thinking he was standin on all ten but i think hes about to have konoha hung up by all ten

    • @ashyman16
      @ashyman16 10 часов назад

      The question is, do you just leave Sasuke, Moegi, etc. trapped in trees fr the rest of eternity? The only way to get them out is the shinjus thorn soul bulbs. You have to kill them as far as we know. Just befriending them means those who they replaced Stay in limbo forever. That's the issue.

  • @votetheodore2048
    @votetheodore2048 13 часов назад +21

    Can you do a short on the Pros and Cons of being a Shinobi

    • @RodStiffington
      @RodStiffington 13 часов назад +1

      Too much for a short, that’s a whole vid and I’m here for it!

    • @noahcade2701
      @noahcade2701 13 часов назад +1

      Pros you get paid cons it’s dangerous pros you get fame con target on your back idk Breh just think

    • @jplaya2023
      @jplaya2023 13 часов назад +2

      Pro - Cool jutsu
      CONS - Dying before 25

    • @youshouldintrospectmore
      @youshouldintrospectmore 12 часов назад

      I feel like that's super straight forward

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 12 часов назад

      ??

  • @mrsossie
    @mrsossie 10 часов назад +2

    I believe "Consume" is being misinterpreted, it doesn't necessarily mean "eating" it could mean knowledge.

  • @lihlerandima339
    @lihlerandima339 12 часов назад +1

    Something i really like about the shinjus is that they started by killing people and made us believe they were evil and were just monsters, and then we got hit with they are just beast cubs
    Which asks the question, If you were in a room with a lion cub with limited food"Would you kill a lion cub because it might be a threat when it's grown or take the risk and raise to be your companion which does not guarantee your safety

  • @BloodravenRivers
    @BloodravenRivers 12 часов назад +4

    OIHHHHHH MAAAN! YOU ARE COOOOOKIN WITH THIS ONE MY FRIEND!!! Merry Christmas Eve and Thank you soooo much for another banger of a video! Love Ya Bro happy holidays to you and yours...

  • @hiitsalex6780
    @hiitsalex6780 13 часов назад +12

    I have a question: Do you think the Boruto series would be better if it took place in another universe, where it have elements of the Naruto series, but also a disconnect from the main series? A good example of this is JoJo Steel Ball Run.

    • @KeltkeGH
      @KeltkeGH 13 часов назад +5

      yes, it would've been better received, like alternate universe or timeline.

    • @BorutoOtsuski-w7b
      @BorutoOtsuski-w7b 12 часов назад +2

      No I'd hate if that happens

    • @DammnDeejay
      @DammnDeejay 11 часов назад

      IMO, no. A lot of Borutos traction came from the fact that it WAS a continuation of the series. If it was disconnected, it wouldn’t have gotten of the ground until much, much later
      Edit: I think it would become like a Jax and Daxter type of feel. Like it’s tryna do too many things at once but doesn’t have its own identity to call its own

    • @secoreymcfarquhar9551
      @secoreymcfarquhar9551 11 часов назад +1

      I honestly think this could've been a good move. Boruto is basically a rehash of Naruto with different but similar concepts so yeah.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 5 часов назад

      Nah it wouldn't have done as well, as it wouldn't be a part of the naruto universe. That's like having DBS separate from the original series, if it takes place in another universe then it isn't a part of that previous series.

  • @alejandrosr6261
    @alejandrosr6261 10 часов назад +2

    Bro has thrown so many theories on how Konoha gets destroyed that by the time it happens he will always be right lol, even a broken clock says the time right twice a day

  • @HailDarkseid
    @HailDarkseid 9 часов назад +1

    And another thing , is no one else slightly curious about the other planets that got consumed ? I’d like to imagine that they were more advanced and stronger than the the current planet

  • @KurokamiKai
    @KurokamiKai 8 часов назад +1

    yo he was spitting facts about the geniuses in Naruto. I immediately thought about Neji who was another self proclaimed genius and he:
    1)was big depressed and jealous because of his clans class system
    2) tried the bad guy bit, got folded
    3) Kinda ambiguous with his intentions behind what he truly wanted from being a ninja. Did he wanna be better and change his clan? did he just abuse crush hinata for her being a part of the main branch or want to prove he was always better than his clan? did he ever love ten ten? Was his byakugan not activated when he got packed up by a tree?
    so many questions…😂

  • @HailDarkseid
    @HailDarkseid 10 часов назад +2

    And shikamaru isn’t sentient, hes not making any choices

  • @b2j135
    @b2j135 9 часов назад +2

    I can't believe I JUST NOW realized this...
    The Shinju are just like Nobodies from Kingdom Hearts. The way they are created and share the same likeness and abilities of their Somebodies is incredibly obvious.
    Hell I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional...wow. You think Kishimoto likes KH? 🤣
    Now that I realize this...how would Konoha deal with the shinju? Would they truly go the route of "death" like in KH? Or will they actually talk no jutsu them into giving up their cores so that their "somebodies" can return?
    NOW I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES!

  • @BorutoOtsutsuki__
    @BorutoOtsutsuki__ 11 часов назад +1

    The thing is we are judging it from a reader's pov while they are just characters who thinks that they are the main characters .

  • @Not____Applicable
    @Not____Applicable 13 часов назад +6

    Why would the story only function off good natured decisions? Shikamaru is not doing something underhanded against any ninja, he’s doing it against an alien species that may or may not consume them all eventually. Why are we acting like this is just an evil plan when this is just a plan out of desperation and logic? Nah I really don’t see him being the reason Konoha is destroyed. TBV is just a different story than Naruto was.

  • @florin1952
    @florin1952 13 часов назад +6

    This might be the best and most coherent video youve ever made.
    The shinju narrative has some really high potential to be something special

  • @Rigel6747
    @Rigel6747 10 часов назад +1

    Are we forgetting that Kashin Koji was the one who told Shikamaru to send team 7 to the Hidden Sand?

  • @SuperPeter721
    @SuperPeter721 11 часов назад +1

    the divine trees are literally the 9 tailed beasts. jura loves and respects konoha because naruto befriended the 9 tailed beasts and let them live happy and free

    • @SuperPeter721
      @SuperPeter721 11 часов назад

      Also each shinju's death/ending will be with them becoming full filled. Masturi will want to return the soul bulb after feeling her love for konohomaru, jura will join with himawari and himiwari will be the 10 tail jinchuriki making her the incarnation of the sage of six paths.

  • @BDRULES5
    @BDRULES5 13 часов назад +5

    2:27 you know what else is massive???

    • @pepsibIue
      @pepsibIue 11 часов назад +3

      Your mom

    • @BDRULES5
      @BDRULES5 10 часов назад +2

      @pepsiblue in my heart yes, on this earth she’s no longer with us, merry Christmas may you find all the blessings you deserve💕

    • @eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw
      @eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw 9 часов назад +1

      so wholesome happy holidays!

    • @malakaimartin543
      @malakaimartin543 4 часа назад +1

      LOOOOOOOOOOW TAAAPPER FADE

  • @Drew399
    @Drew399 13 часов назад +2

    You smoked this one sir 🤝

    • @Binks129
      @Binks129 22 минуты назад

      *Choked

  • @NegaHumanX
    @NegaHumanX 12 часов назад +2

    Be funny if the Bug Shinju goes on a crazy character arc and ends up as the next Hokage. (stupid, but funny)

    • @madarasoun3018
      @madarasoun3018 12 часов назад +1

      Funnier if it’s Jura.

    • @NegaHumanX
      @NegaHumanX 12 часов назад

      @madarasoun3018 Jura beats Naruto in a full-on election campaign.

    • @madarasoun3018
      @madarasoun3018 Час назад +1

      @@NegaHumanX I really want to see Jura develops the love for Konoha and its people and vice versa. Then he took Naruto’s word, “I’m gonna be Hokage.” lol that would be hilarious.😂

  • @BenevolenceTony2030
    @BenevolenceTony2030 9 часов назад +1

    Hey Nick and everyone, I was thinking in part one Naruto, Naruto said to Konohamaru there are no shortcuts to becoming the Hokage, and that is what Shikamaru in Two Blue Vortex is doing. 🤯

    • @shadow-faye
      @shadow-faye 7 часов назад

      Hes literally doing everything in his power to not be hokage for as long as possible, thats not a shortcut

    • @BenevolenceTony2030
      @BenevolenceTony2030 7 часов назад

      @shadow-faye oh nvm

  • @B.Ent98
    @B.Ent98 9 часов назад +1

    But isn’t he just doing Kashin Koji’s plan from what he saw in the future? The backfire can’t be on Shikamaru it would have to come from the side from somebody like Kawaki

  • @HailDarkseid
    @HailDarkseid 9 часов назад +1

    They are ninjas . deception is their bread and butter

  • @kazverse17
    @kazverse17 12 часов назад +1

    I actually wanna understand how anyone feels sorry for these shinju. Please enlighten me on what im missing

  • @CurtisBallard
    @CurtisBallard Час назад

    Kogi is the real reason for the shortcut. He told Shikamaru to send those ninja and gave him enough intelligence to formulate the plan.

  • @LokeLenander
    @LokeLenander 13 часов назад +2

    W video man!

  • @taylor.river7
    @taylor.river7 9 часов назад +1

    What orher plan could Shikamaru had came up with? 🤔🤔 If the only other plan was talk no jutsu, I hope Shikamaru plan is sucessful. 😂😂

  • @muscabdahir664
    @muscabdahir664 13 часов назад +2

    Great video

  • @FloWoodEnT123
    @FloWoodEnT123 7 часов назад

    0:45
    “Shikamaru Naru” is a crazy slip up to ignore 😂😂😂 BECAUSE we know that you know

  • @HailDarkseid
    @HailDarkseid 9 часов назад +1

    And that’s false jura does not want them to just go and consume people . He wants to then to go explore and find themselves

  • @AccelVs
    @AccelVs 13 часов назад +1

    Merry Christmas to you Nick-don't know if you're gonna read this but still wanted to say thanks and as always love the theories and facts that come up in this channel of yours :)

  • @SuperSaku1
    @SuperSaku1 11 часов назад

    13:58
    To be fair, him giving in to the 9tails is literally what saved him. He just did it to the degree that he almost lost himself.
    But the actual act? Confirmed got the chakra rods out of him.

  • @Lorenzo_Lucci
    @Lorenzo_Lucci 12 часов назад +1

    The point people are missing is how dumb this plan is. It’s not even a “risky” plan, it’s a death assured plan that’s gonna go completely wrong when it comes to the betrayal part of the plan. Except none of them are likely to die 🤣

  • @addixworld
    @addixworld 8 часов назад +1

    Jura could sense the chakra of kurama in himawari from countries away and he doesn't think he'll be able to sense his friends getting killed. Honestly it is a completely stupid plan by a supposed genius. Like surface level it sounds fine but a better plan would be befriend the rest of them and have them help fight against jura then try that underhanded tactic when they r all weak. I'm definitely not a genius and that's 10 times better of a plan 😅

  • @PostThaMost
    @PostThaMost Час назад +1

    6:39

  • @hienroxorz
    @hienroxorz 13 часов назад +4

    Shikamaru Naru 😂 hell yeah.

  • @alexv9657
    @alexv9657 7 часов назад

    Shikamaru's strategy is based on Kashin Koji's 10 directions. God knows how many times Koji saw multiple different scenarios that ended up horribly. There is a reason why Koji agreed to Shikamaru's strategy. Whether it works or not is another story entirely. But I believe that this route is their best chance in defeating Ryu and Matsuri.

  • @iTsOfficiallyPluto
    @iTsOfficiallyPluto 10 часов назад +1

    My thing is, they don’t wanna piss off Jura, but killing a Shinju is going to piss him off ain’t it? 😅

    • @shadow-faye
      @shadow-faye 7 часов назад

      They don't want him to attack regular citizens for no reason, but theres reason for this and it isn't about citizens

  • @Logaloof
    @Logaloof 10 часов назад

    Idk Nick, the way she looks at Konohamaru she might unhinge that jaw 😂

  • @oaken1233
    @oaken1233 8 часов назад

    Tbh From an in universe POV, shikamaru's technique is the smartest thing to do at this point, to achieve the specific goals he has and concidering the informations he has.
    Goal : Eliminate potential threat to the village and retrieve lost Konoha ( and Suna ) shinobis
    Information : Shinju are naive but too powerfull to be faced straight up, if you destroy them you might be able to save the people in trees
    Bonus context point : No one around him is powerfull enough to brute force through it ( aka Naruto is "dead", Sasuke is "missing", Kowaki, Daemon and Delta probably wouldn't follow his orders and Boruto is a wanted criminal )
    Yeah, using underhanded tactics is more or less the only viable option he still has
    ( well arguably you could clearly make a point that he could befriend them, and then try to send them to be studied by a great scientific mind ( i.e. Oroshimaru, Kabuto or Amado ), and maybe find a way to revert the process of trapping people in tree without ending the shinju, but that plan involve way too much hazardous statement ( Shinju full cooperation, an actual way to revert it existing in the first place, time, the ability to implement the solution etc ) it just is way less reliable )
    So overall, yes this is morally not really cool, but I don't think he can achieve his goals any other way

  • @MichaelWasnotTaken
    @MichaelWasnotTaken 4 часа назад

    A Shinju gonna have the will of fire and a little leaf silhouette in the background.

  • @NarutosRasengan5
    @NarutosRasengan5 16 минут назад

    6:57 bruv the chibaku tensei drains her chakra and when team 7 sealed her her body literally reverted back to the 10 tails and blew up….she’s dead

  • @coatguy2990
    @coatguy2990 8 часов назад +1

    0:45
    Fake fan. His last name is Nara. Not Naru. And you call yourself a Naruto geek?

  • @niklasb5689
    @niklasb5689 3 часа назад

    Holding a pen makes u look even more professional lol

  • @icemanmmx
    @icemanmmx 13 часов назад +1

    I never catch your drops this early 😂. Just finished reading the last 12 chapters of Boruto and first 17 of two blue vortex. Read them just so I could watch your content spoiler free since I got through most of your Naruto content 😂

  • @joelemaine
    @joelemaine 5 часов назад

    The next issue will be named, The revival of Talk no jutsu

  • @turtle_combat
    @turtle_combat 12 часов назад

    Compliments to the chef. I wonder if the flash forward scene happens before Team 7 returns from the Wind.

  • @anjaturek9454
    @anjaturek9454 7 часов назад

    Merry Christmas to you and your family :3

  • @Dare5358
    @Dare5358 11 часов назад +1

    I don't think what Shika is doing is morally wrong, esp from a ninja's POV, but I do believe the author will punish him for it. "No no no, talk no jutsu is the only way". Lame. I might question though, if they can be befriended, why not just stop there and just stay friends? If you can truly bring your enemy over to your side, why bother betraying them for it?

  • @agentnukaz1715
    @agentnukaz1715 3 часа назад

    Shikamaru doing some black ops shit is just what we need. Hopfully then anbu can have a decent showing

  • @phantomprimepp4780
    @phantomprimepp4780 13 часов назад

    I really love where boruto is heading , its not straight forward like naruto was , there will be alot of twist and turns in future that we wont be able to predict. I just hope it doesnt get rushed and is fully polished series for us

  • @Bj-fq2sj
    @Bj-fq2sj 13 часов назад +2

    Bro shika is going to nuke the whole fire country 😂

    • @Bj-fq2sj
      @Bj-fq2sj 13 часов назад

      I honestly feel bad for the Shinju RN, but I guess that’s his nindo 😂

  • @A.Dubski8713
    @A.Dubski8713 7 часов назад +1

    Maybe the heap of rubble that was Konoha, that Boruto and Kawaki were battling on top of in the beginning, was the result of this decision right here?

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 5 часов назад

    Keep up the amazing work and videos Nick

  • @Kevin-nr2jc
    @Kevin-nr2jc 3 часа назад

    But you forgot the fact that in the end, this may turn out all right because of Kashin Koji's guidance. Unless Koji's ending isn't as jolly as a different, more moral approach to the situation.

  • @dakotasnyder7897
    @dakotasnyder7897 11 часов назад +1

    Bros talk no jutsu is so good. You don’t even realize that 90% of his videos are just. Irrelevant lore and jabber about the generalized topic or character in the video

  • @funloop
    @funloop 7 часов назад

    konohamaru might pull an Ohgi from Code Geas: try to fake a friendship but ultimately develop feelings for his enemy that screws over his boss.
    Best case scenerio, Konohamaru talk no jutsu's Matsuri into understanding that her existence is putting his bestie in trouble
    Funniest would be that both Matsuri and Konohamaru share a kiss (started by Matsuri) and that, somehow, clears a condition for her "devouring" Konohamaru. Then we can move to discovering what the ofther trees really want.

  • @BlueFangbluser
    @BlueFangbluser 9 часов назад

    I think shikimaru believes in this plan but remember it was fed to him by koshinkoji. This means that these actions will lead to what he believes is the best outcome which may mean deceiving shikimaru. I think that they won't be able to actually go through with this plan and will end up forming some type of bond with the shinju. The only way to convince them to act friendly long enough for this was to tell them it was to betray them. Maybe they end up siding with team 7 to defeat jura or befriending all of them to team up against the otsutsuki threat. Something boruto himself might not be aware of because it would be too much of a risk to tell him everything

  • @tatzslim
    @tatzslim 10 часов назад

    it sounds like to me you're making Jura out to be a op version of Orochimaru on crack

  • @splurtrecords6318
    @splurtrecords6318 4 часа назад

    Merry christmas from kangaroo land! Even though we are a day ahead you can say its party time somewhere !🎉

  • @daswiney
    @daswiney 5 часов назад

    11:00 it’s funny bc you can run a computer and games with just a cpu, I did it by accident for 3 years, just if your cpu is bad you won’t be able to do anything lol

  • @martinfishersings
    @martinfishersings 6 часов назад

    All those brains and Shikamaru never learned Talk no Jutsu

  • @phonyalias7574
    @phonyalias7574 11 часов назад

    I don't think this is too far out there as a theory. One of the big issues with Narutos peace plan, is that it's him that people listen to due to his strength. Naruto warps the worlds beliefs around his own. But when Naruto is no longer there, the world needs some other way to create peace. Shikamaru has very much always stuck to the old system of thinking, even in Naruto he was a Will of Fire type. Naruto only had two allies with his system of thinking, Tsunade and Gaara. Tsunade is too old and Gaara has suffered the same fate as Sasuke. Without outside factors to destroy that system of thinking, if Naruto were to remain imprisoned forever, everything would again devolve to the village system, or perhaps even the clan system as villages are becoming less important due to technology.

  • @jaykejohnston6608
    @jaykejohnston6608 3 часа назад

    He really is the worst. Shikamaru can only rely on underhanded manipulation because he has no strength to take the front lines

  • @akuokami1677
    @akuokami1677 6 часов назад

    Thumbnail out here like tobirama didn't exist