PANASONIC LEICA DG SUMMILUX 12MM F/1.4 REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2017
- I've been working with the Panasonic 12mm 1.4 Leica Summilux for a few weeks now and wanted to share some images and video footage from this lens. Not only is it incredible, but its making me thing very differently about micro 4/3 in general. This thing is amazing.
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What a beautiful lens! Nice color correction, your skin tones looks so good! Love your channel, it's incredibly informative and you sound like you have so much passion for it, BRAVO!
one of my faves, never leaves my bag! The price is steep but it does carry the Leica Summilux badge, and it's definitely worth every penny like all the Pana/Leica lenses.
I've only just discovered your videos learning so much, great review by the way
Super review Ted....your style of review is perfect....to the point, no waffle and loaded with the critical facts....has anyone shot with a zhiyun crane with this....i like working with my stabilizers but a little unsure of front heavy weight.....just a thought.....love your reviews....and thankyou for you time from a documentary film maker.
Love the video :D Will we see more lens reviews in the future? And maybe the Gh5?
Top review as always
Your comment about the focus by wire is very relevant Ted, some are better than others though. I own and reviewed the Panasonic 25mm 1.7 and the manual focus speed actually changes based on how fast you turn the ring and it makes it all but impossible to reliably rack focus repeatably. I think thats one reason fully manual lenses will always be in demand for certain situations. by the way I like how youre not chained to one brand or system. respect
Thanks for great review 👍🏻 just purchased this lens now waiting for it to arrive 🫵🏻😎👍🏻 Cheers from Western Australia 🇦🇺
Good review, I have the 1-4 25mm Summilux and that is an impressive lens used on my G80/85 but of course with MFT the crop factor is an issue at the wide end so it was great to hear your take on this 12mm. Love your work, all the best.
I usually combo the leica 25 with the Leica 15 and the PL42.5 OIS for compact use. It's usually way enough. I do agree panasonic needs a 10 and a 100 prime :)
This video was amazing
Nice, would love if you made more gear reviews !!! both lenses and cameras! ,plus some more photographers history :)
Love your channel
Very good review video.
That video with the 1.4f lens is so bokehlicious good!
İ think this is the first time you started to share sample photos in your videos, i hope you to share photos every videos.
I do simple youtube videos on a tripod with my GH4 and am debating on getting this 12mm Leica or the Voigtlander Nokton 10.5mm lens. Which one should I get??? I have the Voigtlander 17.5 and absolutely love it but I need something just a tad wider since the camera is so close to my face.
Thanks for the review on what appears to be a pretty tack sharp lens. I am curious, if you notice your shot is out of focus after the fact, why didn't you reshoot it?
Another great review that makes the micro four third more and more appealing .Hope one day to recieve an answer to my email but I guess it is impossible to make great content,make your own projects and also answer all the mails we send you.So keep up the good work
Looks like an amazing partner to the Gh5
Could you share what sharpening was used in camera, and whether there was any sharpening added in post?
Awesome lens and video ted, what nd filter u used?
I've bought from B&H before. Great stuff!
what camera and focal size lens brand did you shoot these opening head shots on in the very beginning of the video? at 0:05
Hi, I 've the 15mm F1.7 how is the quality , can you compare the quality of colour and contrast with 12 F1.4
Have you usdd the 15mm 1.7? If so, have you experienced poor or breathing AF during video? Im trying to see if its just me or a common thing. I did just get the G9 firmware updated too.
I really love your perspective
Thank you and I'm thinking of joining the challenges
Didn't you challenge to wear cam as necklace ?
Been doing that daily
Great video Ted. Love your work.
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do you still like it? i have the 25mm F1.7 for my GH5 and thinking of the 15mm F1.7 for wider shots. then i saw this....but it's more $$
Love your videos and appreciate the time you put into them.
Is there a way to contact you directly?
How does this compare to the Summilux 15mm f1.7? For street, landscape and nature photography?
Hi Ted do you feel the 12mm f1.4 has an IQ advantage over the Leica 8-18 f2.8-4, or is the advantage solely in the larger maximum aperture?
I noticed some longitudinal chromatic aberration in the outside video in the out of focus regions. Do you have any thoughts on the severity of that particular aberration?
I'm buying a GH5 my first lens is either this or the f0.95 17.5 mm voigtlander nokton. I'm leaning towards the Nockton because it's designed for manual focus.
Thanks for the review, Now that the Gh5 is out could you do a test using the IOS. Also how about compare this to the Olympus 12/f2 please?
That's what we shoot a lot of our videos on. How good is it!!!!!!!
Pia and Kane I thought you were shooting on Sony gear. Vlog style shots?
Trying to decide whether I should get the PANASONIC LEICA DG SUMMILUX 12MM F/1.4 or the Panasonic H-E08018 8-18 mm F2.8-4.0 for my GH5?
what were you filming with (with Batis mounted)?
You can DIY a stabilizer for this set-up with a tennis ball, a 1 ounce steel ball bearing, a washer with a 1/4 in hole and a 1/4 nut and screw. Put together, you mount it in the tripod mount at the base of the camera. The vibrations will be washed out by the vibration of the ball bearing within the tennis ball. An added benefit is the size of the tennis ball is perfectly sized to act as a hand grip.
I want to order the pana leica, but still curious, does the aperture ring works on creative movie mode?? I'm using gh5 btw, i just dont want it to accidently move the aperture ring and mess everything,, thanks.. 😁
I love using this lens, I love the close focus, and I love the look of the images. I use a gimbal, monopod, or tripod for video so IS is not important to me. I wish there was a 10mm version.
Glad to see you're liking the micro 4/3 systems. you should really get your hands on an Olympus em5 II or em1 II. The in body stabilization on the Olympus platform is incredible and lets you use unstabilized Panasonic lenses. I'm using an em5 II and just picked up a Panasonic Lumix 20mm f1.7. Excited to see how it performs over the Olympus 17mm.
Its on my list ;-)
g85 better ergonomics, menu interface, handling and color output ^__^
Yannick Khong olympus has the best jpeg out put and its wb is incredible, g85 cant go as high in iso, the ibis is better in olympus. g85 has better menus and better video. The colors are more punchy with contrast. They say it is more filmic while olympus is organic.
do you apply color grading to this video ? , the color tone are very creamy
Would like image stablization on that as well as improved AF
May I please learn where the lens is made, as it says on the body of the lens? Thanks!
Says Made In Japan, like all the Pany lenses I know about.
@@b.griffin317my lumix 12-32, leica 10-25 and leica 12-60 f2.8-4 all have made in china written on the back of the lens mount
I have been following this channel for awhile and love the content. I own a nikon d70 and a new canon m10 and I was wondering how much of a deal does aperture make? I primarily do sports photography but occasionally do some automotive too and I was thinking about purchasing a rokinon lens whose f/2 but they also have a f/1.2 for the camera mount and I am unsure which to look to get.
Alexander Hastings if you are doing sports I don’t think you want a shallow depth of field. Just because there’s a lot of movement and trying to keep someone in focus with a narrows field of view is only going to be difficult.
You can "rack" focus during video on many Panasonic cameras -- as old as the GH3 -- by using the touch screen.
Any thought on stars photography using this lens?
Ooooh, do want.
great video - thanks - nice place you got - on the shake issue - Get the GX85 - it has fantastic IBIS - and not that much more - and not a whole lot larger - still very compact - the GX85 is a super super nice little camera - a bit heavier - but solves the image stabilization issue - has Dual IS with selected lenses - the GX850 is of course ultra small and light and amazing for its size - but the 12mm F1.4 seems awesome - I have the 25mm F1.4 and the great little 42.5 mm F1.7 and the awesome 42.5mm F1.2 - but larger and heavier but ultra sharp -
the 25mm f1.4 seems really sharp - I am sold I will be heading of to B&H soon -
the 15 is also tiny for everyday use!
I think I'm getting one! 🙏
I've got one. Super happy with it and I love the lens, but the saturated purple flares isn't very pretty
Is the manual aperture ring de-clicked?
Could you show us what FULL wide open 1.4 looks like on an interior at both medium and medium-closeup shot?
Looks incredibly similar to my 42.5mm f1.2 (in terms of build etc.)
That is a wonderful lens too.
But, I do wish it wasn't fly by wire focus.
It's the only crit I would give those sort of high quality m43 lenses. (Apart from maybe the £)
traveling setup with traveling light is important, so how much does this whole setup weigh?
Do you have to times the f stop by 2?
"Literally blown me away" - My condolences.
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Ted! Hope you have been well :) do you have a video explaining your filming set up (lighting, gear, etc)? So professional looking, I need to up my game! Also a photography/DSLR for dummies video would be amazing! :)
Right as I'm writing this you talk a bit about vlogging! Bonza!
I'll see what I can do - hope you are well Sally!!! How's that house coming along?
The Art of Photography oh god don't ask! There will new video to come soon though hopefully :)
versus olympus 12mm M.Zukio 2.0?
This or olympus 12 40 pro ? For em1 mark 2 or 25mm pro
Probably a silly question to try an ask on such a dated video. But how would you rate Canon FD SSC lenses on micro 4/3 (i like manual lenses) ? I am really looking at the micro 4/3 cameras.
Hey, I'm wondering why all great 12mm lenses are so big? And then there's the Fujifilm 18mm (apsc?) for their system which I'm finding surprisingly great that weights nearly nothing, and is super small. Could a similar sized lens for the m4/3 format be made, or is there something preventing it?
"literally blown me away". riiiight. literally.
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Hello from Brazil, Ted! How does this combo (GX850 + SUMMILUX 12MM F/1.4) compares to the LX100 at 12mm f/1.7, not considering the slightly difference in shallow DOF? Tks!
The lx100's venus engine is dated from the GH4 era so a little faded, a little off-colored but satisfyingly sharp. You'd be getting a significant jump in tonality, contrast and pop using the summilux 12 on a new generation Lumix like the GX850
It would be ideal for video on my GX80, but it's in real world terms, it's likely to be even more expensive over here in the UK... Thanks for sharing.
Do you think the lack of stabilization would be okay for handheld if you pair this lens with the G9?
Yes without issue as most of the stabilization is done in body in the G9. Plus, wide angle lenses don't need as much stabilization as a regular zoom or a telephoto.
Hey Ted, if you get a chance please try out the new Olympus 25mm 1.2f Pro. I would be curious to know what you think about it. Keep up the great work.
Would love to see how good it is during night time star shoot.
Will the aperture ring work with an Olympus body, for instance on an OMD EM1 ii?
soulcareer why wouldn’t it? It has both manual and electronic controls.
I just picked up the Panny Leica 25mm 1.4. There's some nice glass in their system.
It's the system's best natural rendering AF 25mm
This is my #1 favorite lens in the 4/3 system (closely followed by the 42.5 nocticron and the 75 1.8).
you like the 25mm over the 42.5?! so interesting
@astheskylarksings I LOVE the 42.5, but it's big and a bit of a specialist, so for lenses that just hang out on my camera, the 25 wins. (Fortunately I have all 3 and they all fit in my go bag, so...)
if the 42.5 is specialty then you must rarely use that 75mm, no? i have been tempted to get it, but the focal length as a prime has always been a deterrent. i only shoot primes as most m4/3 should do to get anything out of their cameras, I think. i use the panny 25 and the 42.5. i have a few more lenses that are zooms but they do not see the light of day. i want something wide, but i'm still not sure if a nice wide is up up alley. i take a lot of street action shots and portraits. the main subject are humans, so i have to get pretty close with a 12 to catch their emotions
Panasonic Leica lenses are awesome. Don't have this one but might get it. Comparing the PL lenses to Olympus for example, they both make superb lenses. Olympus' are more clinical, superb sharpness and performance. PL lenses can often be slightly less sharp for example or have some other very minor "defect" but the rendering of the PL lenses more than make up for it, they produce so much nicer images than most Olympus lenses thanks to character AND performance.
/Rasmus
The GX850 was still in my mind in the category of "neat new camera might pick one up one day". Reality hits when glancing at upload date...
Can you also review the Voigtlander Nokton 10.5mm f/0.95?
It seems like a bargain against this lens.
How would the lumix 14mm 2.5 compare as a cheaper budget option ? Thoughts
Well, its cheaper, slower and a pancake, so....
You should mention that it's not good for portraits because of the distortion. I own one. You have to get them dead in the center or there will be issues. I personally wouldn't say shallow DOF is the strength of this lens. Sure if you can get the subject up close, you can get a shallow DOF but you can't really do that with people's faces without avoiding distortion. So you can shoot small subjects for shallow DOF. Everything else, you have deep DOF very quickly as you move farther away from the subject. I have it on the GX85 which has IBIS, and it's my favorite lens. Another strong points of this lens is that 1.4 is razor sharp. I never need to stop down when shooting anything at medium distance and beyond unless the sun is that harsh. And also, the focusing system is silent. Unlike cheaper lenses that make noise at AFC, this lens is silent at AFC mode when continuous focus is important for rapid bursts.
I'd say the lens is decent for environmental portraits but it's definitely less "portrait" strong than the tiny 15 for the same genre. It's amazing as a documentation and landscape prime though. I usually go back and forth between that one and the 15 on the g85.
this is where the sensor size and crop factor play in more.. maybe why one might go towards APS-C, if not full frame.
with the same 24mm equiv. field of view, the distortion will be less on a larger sensor since the actual focal length isn't as short, such as with APS-C.
24mm is not the best portrait focal length, but if you want a wider shot to include more as environmental portraits, then 24mm is about as wide as one should go for that, or if you have a large group photo, also.. and I think, the 16mm f/1.4 from Fujifilm, is an example of a very nice 24mm equiv. field of view which can be used effectively as a "wide angle portrait lens"... but, it's still not a true 24mm with 24mm distortion/compression, so care in using any relatively wide angle lens should be taken with precaution to subject placement and angle to avoid or minimalize distortion, all the same.
I'm not sure I'd personally use a 24mm equiv. field of view for street photog, either.. for me, it's a bit too wide and you really need to get that much closer to frame and compose a shot nicely.. I think 28mm is about as wide as I'd want to go in such a shooting scenario.
a 24 mm FF equivalent is surely not a portrait lens we all Photographer know that but the image here (samples) looks very nice, if the distortion is too high that´s a big issue anyway, I will not use for portrait but if the architecture look distorted in excess, that ruins a bit the use of this lens, anyway the focus by wire ruins also my expectation, sad cause I love the look of this lens, but I can´t use it on a BMPCC 4K which work in total manual focus
This is not a portrait lens... if you shoot portraits close up with nikon or canon 24mm you will also get a distortion
@@dainiusadomaitis309 Canon don´t worth what they ask for in what distortion matters and CA´s , Leica are very good at least the 35 mm Summilux. 1.4 M Mount, there are Canon special titl shift lens which are good for architecture, anyway they don´t do miracles, i worked with canon but it is not cause they are distortion free or CA´s free. it is cause their are build like tank, weather seal ... also for hobby i used Leica gear and i have a good relationship with the 35 mm 1.4 Summilux M awesome lens by far my favorite, either it is not a pro go to work lens, it is only good for doing street with not too much moving scenarios, Leica digital makes me sold all my Leica gear cause sensors and bodies are horrible and overpriced to die and chemical is too expensive even for hobby
Have you ever used the noctilux lens and if so what is your opinion of it?
Brilliant, but hard to keep much in focus at that shallow a depth.
Great review thanks! Lots of very lovely pictures! As an aside, why don't you just hold the lens box and film with the lens? Even holding a kitten would be cool. I don't understand holding a lens you're talking about instead of using it. I thought you'd been sent a "couple of lenses" so I thought you were filming on the second copy haha. xx
Boss lens.. this is what I want to my GH5.
Could be awesome lens with Olympus. Have been looking for fast 12mm lens...
It is about time Panasonic/Leica made all their lenses Power IOS/Dual IS compatible.
Why would you shoot a portrait on a 24mm (equivalent) lens?
Speed Booster Sony E-Mount to Micro Four Thirds? Would love to use the Zeiss Batis 25mm for my GH5.
due to the flange distance of the sony e mount, it is physically impossible to adapt e mount glass to micro 4/3
well. I remember gx85 has in body stabilization. Am I wrong? And. I think the camera on your video is gf series
He is using the GX850...I know, I know, Panasonic naming...
Returning to this and I must say I'm puzzled. It doesn't seem like a 12mm should be able to create this much separation even at f1.4. Must be a very special lens.
how do these compare to the voigtlander lenses? they're cheaper and I know it's too soft to use stopped down to f.0.95 but they are nice lenses.
Albert Arriola in my experience voigtlanters are a bit more cinematic looking. They look pretty close to Zeiss
What lenses would you suggest for video, mft for cheap
I'd go with older manual focus lenses with adaptors, just know wide angle will be a problem with the .5 crop factor.
did you mean 2x crop factor?
there was a 8mm lens released last week...
SLR Magic 8mm f/4 mFT
The Rokinon 12mm f/2 is good for video and pretty cheap ($300), though of course with Rokinon build quality...
hi ,can I used this lens for filming weddings ?
Vatziu & Debbie yes you can. I think for wedding you probably want a utility lens. I’d probably use the 12-35mm instead
Just a thought, if nowadays we use crane gimbal to record video, how is the lack of OIS of this lens still a problem? Those people who will buy this expensive lens would have the money to buy crane gimbal anyway.
Has anyone compared it to the 15mm 1.7? Worth the price difference?
Great lens. Bloody expensive 🔥
The Rokinon 12mm F2 or T2.2 is a beautiful alternative...
trevorpinnocky i'll stick to my 12-35mm f2.8 since I'm not too worried about bokeh at those wide focal lenghts
that is sadly true haha but for the price of this prime lens you could buy the sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and a speed booster and that would give you a zoom lens at f1.2
but the depth of field would still be a F2.4 FF equivalent. Just buy a FF Sigma 20mm or 24mm F1.4 and speed booster then your get real F1.4 DOF and a real focus ring. The reason this Panasonic lens is so expensive is just size. if it was a full frame it be half the price. Great if traveling but that's about it.
Sure if dof is all that matters aside from superior native color/contrast transmission. Sigma lenses can't transmit those attributes much. ;)
This lens is Goddess..
It may be a good lens. And I shoot on a G80/85. Still, a 1.4 lens on a M43 has the same depth of field than a f2 on an APS-C or a f/2.8 on a full frame. That is my main issue with M43. I would go even further with the excellent Panasonic cameras only IF they would go APS-C...
Nice lens, as many of the Pany-Leica ones are.
Micro 4/3 is a great format to use. I used Olympuses for over 4 years. But, the crop factor.. I did not have that much problem with it, but to squeeze the most amount of IQ out of m43 system, you really need the highest quality and fastest lens possible, and there is no doubt many from Panasonic & Olympus that have such offerings, but they come at a cost.. $1300 for this 12mm f/1.4, if I'm not mistaken, for example. You can certainly get excellent results with M43, but you must make that extra effort to push the lens and the m43's sensor to get the maximum potential.
I believe in paying the high cost for the best prime lens if it's worth it, and I believe this lens and many others.. the Olympus 25mm f/1.2, Pana-Leica 42.5mm f/1.2 Nocticron, etc..
BUT, that being said, I also like Fuji and when you look at the costs for equivalent lenses.. 16mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4, 56mm f/1.2... you pay $100's less.. and, you take into account the crop factor, the perceived shallow depth of field is also better an f/1.4 on APS-C is like f/2.1(or essentially f/2) vs an f/1.4 on M43 is like an F/3.8 (or essentially f/4).
Thus, I switched back to Fuji eventually.
If I were to have stayed with M43, I probably would have ended up with this lens and some of the other high end and pricey primes M43 has to offer as the IQ you can maximize from M43 with such lenses are amongst some of the very best.
... and in regards to focus by wire.. many native mirrorless lenses are designed like that.. not a fan also, and I personally find the most annoying part is sometimes the focus can be inconsistent. I think many, if not all, adjust focusing at varying rates.. and the focusing can accelerate or decelerate depending on how fast or slow you turn it.. so, it could potentially jump a focusing range if turned hard and fast enough, but maybe not adjust fast enough if turned too slow.. so, you never truly have a set point or distance to focus consistently unlike a mechanical focus ring.
There are exceptions to the focus by wire.. some lenses that have a manual focus clutch to instantly engage manual focusing will have a fixed focus range with hard stops at infinity and minimal focus distance when engaged..even a distance/focus scale will appear.. when you have this then the focusing does not accelerate/decelerate and focus movement is reflected 1:1 with focusing distance and therefore you could focus with more consistency.
M43 is more of a format of minimal technical commitment. The effectiveness of ibis and AF speed/accuracy on AF-S helps the camera go through an entire day and night of fun with much interruption or physical effort to passionately commit to a shot like classic dSLR photography. It's definitely a far cry this style of photography.
I'd never look at this as a serious all-round worktool but it could sneak in some specialties (4k video or hyper-weather-proof, silent shutter etc...) there and there.
Nice review! One important thing that you didn't stress is that it's a LEICA !! (Hence the quality, performance & price :-) !!!
Jamon Lewis I thought they’re only German designed but completely manufactured in Japan.
00:12 Figuratively is also an adjective, but its meaning is quite different from literally. Figuratively is defined as based on or making use of figures of speech; metaphorical. So while literally means free from any metaphor or allegory, figurative deals specifically with these kinds of figures of speech.
Nice idea = tripod as gimbal
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can i marry this lens with my old lumix gx1?
one fast lens
B and H has this lens for 700$ right now...might be a mistake, but might want to jump on it ASAP.