Amazing video , there are some channels who somehow want to increase their subscribers just putting those kind of over exciting contents in slow motion and music . You are not one of them , every video you put out makes us know something new and good about the breed. I keep looking out for your new videos and i believe being with you will do a lot of good to us owners as well as to the breed . Its becoming a knowledgeable doberman family...
Thank you so much for the kind words Koushik! Yeah my whole philosophy is I want to create the videos I wish I had when I was new to the breed. So glad you're liking the videos. I publish videos once a week. Right now it's on Sunday mornings.
Thank you, your guidance was great! I have had 4 dobermans already and am looking for my next one. I believe all were the American Dobies, but maybe not my first one, Dixie. She had the body type of an American, but the temperament and personality of a European Doberman. For my next girl I will look for one from the good old U.S.A.
Update on Ace - I have gotten him involved in playing some of the games ruclips.net/user/postUgkx1_veP7CApJK_GWy_TczaMciuG64PqJeU and I can see a difference in his confidence already! My other dog played along and he became intrigued - now its a daily part of our routine - about 3 times a day we do the shell game and the muffin tin game. I am so grateful for coming upon your training techniques!
I have an American doberman and I couldn't be happier!! All the girls swoon at the sight of him! He is so handsome and such a sweet, lovable boy!!! We have found much joy in him!!! And he's a terrific lap dog!! I highly recommend.
Great video. Would be interested to learn about differences in health: Heart, joints, eyes, bloat, VWD, melanoma, thyroid, cancer, average life span, etc.
I got a doberman from the pound in 2016 after my long term boyfriend died. I needed a reason to come home, and she was it. I didn't realize there were two types of dobermans i thought the was just stocky but yeah i guess she is a European. She is what i needed and I was who she needed. She's a big baby and always intervenes when i date but I couldn't ask for a better friend.
One of my fondest childhood memories was my mother's friends Dobermans. They lived on the farm and they watched the kids. I stayed overnight one night without my mom and was scared but didn't tell anyone and one if the Dobermans came in and laud right next to me and I went right to sleep
Great information. I am German...I trained my American Doberman on a U.S. Military Post. No, I wasn't a Soldier. But I did teach my dog in German Police command's.. why...I didn't want anyone not fluent in German to confuse my dog with American language. He only listened to me and there was a lot less confusion. He learned very fast. He was such a Great dog. I miss him dearly.
That's a very good video, comprehensive and correct information gained from first-hand knowledge, presented in a structured and easy-to-understand manner. Surely it will help many people to decide which Dobie is the right one for them. I especially liked the part where you said that, no matter which one you choose, the most important thing is socialising and training. From my own experience I can say, that is *so* true. I trust my Dobies with my kid more than I trust the nanny 😁 Happy New Year from Germany, everyone.
I just bought a 13 week European puppy and forgot how strong willed they are. It’s been about 10 years since I’ve had one. I’m watching all your videos to refresh and get new ideas. I’ve had him about 2weeks and he is doing great but I need to do better. I love your videos and Thank you for all your help.
Great video !! I like European Doberman. But like you said there is no wrong way to go they are both awesome dogs .. not sure what Dallas is I suspect he is European
We have a 110lb European dobbie with champion show bloodline. He will not leave our side, highly protective highly playful very assertive loves affection and plays well with other dogs. He’s beautiful. We love him
Hello and thank you for these vids, they are very helpful. I just put down a deposit to get me one of these amazing animals. My father had a pair of them when I was very young and I always wanted one of my own. I’ll will be getting the Euro simply because it has all the behaviors I desire in a dog. And I prefer my dogs to be a bit on the larger side. We will be driving to Colorado to pick him up just before Xmas.
Thank you for this video, I have an American Doberman that I adopted a year and a half ago. He was 7 and he's turned out to be the most amazing dog I could have ever hoped for. He totally adapted to living with 2 cats, and now I'm thinking about getting another one. Should I rescue again or get a puppy? What are your thoughts? If you have a second, I'd love the feedback. I don't want to mess up a good thing...
Love the video. Very informative!!! I would looove to adopt an American Dob, for his more rafine shape, and his cuddler side!!! But I realize how much big are there needs... Both breed look stunning!!! Thank you for sharing!❤️
My dobermann is a female , mother american and father european. She is crazy , frightless and extremly beautiful. Also she needs a lot of excercise I have a house with big land but also I have to go out 1 hour 2 times per a day. Her weight is 45 kilos. I love dobermann
still undecided. How about if i have a young child at home? Which one should i pick. Our neighbors on all sides have intimidatingly/inquisitive dogs; rottie, Pitbull (very well behaved), jack russell (too muck bark and activity) with a patient (i am being cautious) mastiff and something that looks like dogo argentino (too inquisitive). We are not experienced dog owners
Thanks for this! I’ve always preferred the look of European Dobermans but I wanted to make sure I knew all the differences in temperament before a got one, just to be sure. I grew up with a pitbull, helped trained two labs as a kid, and then trained a husky almost completely on my own when I was a teenager, so I’ve got plenty of dog experience. I think I’ll probably go with a European, they seem like a good fit for me.
I have a mixed European and American Doberman. Best of both worlds. She definitely kept the size of the European. Dad is a black European and mom is a red American. Our Dobe mix is totally the best of both worlds.
Great video, very interesting. I am from the UK and my Dobbie looked more like the US one. However she had more traits of the EU one, although some were pike the US one too. She must have been a mix of US and EU!
I have a 5 year old American male doberman who's also a amazing service dog. I will say hes had no confidence issues as far as being in new environments. He is very sweet and has zero aggression which makes him very approachable to friendly strangers. If anyone is looking for a good looking doberman that's more of a family dog and less a protector I'd agree American is the way to go.
Thank you for the video! You provide great content. I am having a hard time finding an American doberman! Doesn't seem like too many breeders, any advice would be very helpful!
I'll stick with the American Doberman Pincher. I base my preference on previous experiences. I don't have any experience with the European Dobermans but I'm sure they are excellent dogs, but the American Doberman Pincher is, in my opinion, exceptional.
If I am an inexperienced personal dog owner ( I grew up with 2 American Dobermans and raised them as a Kid but with help from my family) but looking to get my first personal Doberman now as an adult, but have a chance opportunity for a European Doberman that is presenting itself, is the genetic difference in temperance in assertiveness substantial enough to go ahead and wait for an American or will the European be easy enough if I work harder to train. I look the look of both, but was wanting a more calm doberman.
I'm so excited in April if everything goes well with me moving, I should be getting a American, European (or should I say German from looking at the commet section) Mix. I cant wait to get her even if i cant have her in shows the whole point of me getting the puppy is because I'm going to be living on my own an need her as a Emotional support animal I can take everywhere for protection
I had a German Shepherd for 9 years it will be in may! She was diagnosed with degenerative myelopathy and is to the point where she can barely walk on her own so I'm going to have to be putting her down next month! I start hands on training at animal behavioral college to become a dog trainer and was going to use my dog to be the dog that I use to learn how to train dogs professionally but looks like God had other plans but I did find a beautiful european Doberman that I will be getting in july!
I am very interested in a Dobie. I have been a German Shepherd guy for 26 years. I love GSDs. However, with both breeds, I am concerned about their lifespans. It was hard losing my GSDs. Now, I am hearing that Dobies have short average lifespans too. I am wondering if a European dobie lives longer? Better breeding standards in Europe.
Thank u. I have a dobie who is bulky not fat and i thought she was a mix with some other breed as well. Guess she is european. Overly protective of me her mom and if i pretend to be afraid stands right by my side constantly barking at the adversery.
I would like the american doberman pinscher because of its awareness of human emotions. I am a single professional that lives alone and I love creating emotional bonds with my dogs. I believe the american doberman is more of my personality
Hi I just lost my girl at 7 yo with liver failure...is that common? She was my second dobe but the first was many years ago and had no issues and lived until she was 12.
You're right about American breeding being a free-for-all. My sweet boy, Hobbs, is so striking and handsome but I'm certain his family tree is a bit narrow. The family that bred his champion show grandpa, rode that horse into the ground, so to speak. My special boy is not terribly bright, he's high strung, has difficulty respecting social signals from other dogs and suffers from periodic tremors. I spent a long time training and socializing him just to try and keep him safe but he's like a kid on the spectrum. Poor thing. He's so handsome but I would never dare breed him because of his temperament.
This is a tough decision, they’re so different yet the same with such minor differences. I’m still torn between which one I should pick. I’m assuming that the American doesn’t feel confident in a new environment based off of its genetic makeup? Help please
I've had 6 American Doberman (5 show line, 1 backyard) in my life. They have never backed down from protecting my family. My dogs never had protection training, natural instincts.
I prefer the American Doberman, because I love dogs that are not very muscular, but I love elegant and affectionate dogs, but nothing to take away from the European🙋♂️
Yeah that's a MAJOR cultural difference. It's crazy because sometimes I don't feel like us in America are that different than you guys in Germany and Europe in general. But here... it's pretty unusual to see a Doberman without an ear crop and tail dock. I think it's basically the opposite there...
Yeah, I feel it is sort of wrong to call it European, when the ears are cropped and the tail is docked. That is illegal in many European countries and most importantly in Germany, the country were the FCI sets the breeding standard.
I 'm from the Netherlands and we have the same laws. Both are illegal. Unless there's a medical condition. However, my father (biology teacher) once explained to me that in nature there are virtually no animals with hanging ears. Be it a wolf, lion, rabbit, bear. Even elephants don't have their ears hanging over the ear canal. Hanging ears on canines are unnatural to begin with. They are a man-made thing. Not that i want to advocate the cropping, quite the contrary.
I have had 4 dobermans over the years. All females. Three American, last one European, because I wanted a dog less likely to have genetic health issues, and thus live longer. The European doberman just passed away last month. She lived to almost 11. But wow, they should be two different breeds. American dobies are easy. Everything said about the German dogs is true, but on steroids!!! Very high energy, super high prey drive. Much tougher to train and have 100%recall off leash. I don't think she walked a step until she was probably 9. (Ran everywhere, and I live on 5 acres). Thinking of going 50/50 on German/American when I start looking in June. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? Will that give me the genetic diversity for better health, but more mellow like an American Dobie? Or maybe a Rotterman? I LOVE my dobies, so I want a long life with them, does anyone have any imput on those ideas and what I might get in personality?
Seems like European is a working dogs group and American is in decorative dogs group 🤔😆 and good pet quality. ‘Decorative dogs’ term is used in my country region to lump small decorative dogs (chihuahuas, toy terriers, toy poodles, etc). Thank you for the video!
Just want to comment because I am from West Europe, people are talking about EU Doberman like it is one typical breed. When even in Europe they are different. If you go further to Eastern Europe you will still find likely a working breed. But If I will try to look for a 'working' Doberman in western Europe then I really need to look for it because it is very difficult to find. The working breed is not interesting anymore in west Europe and therefore a lot of good breeders are breeding out working instinct from the breed. So actually it is quite difficult to just compare one to another. But I see a lot of American videos how they interpreting EU Doberman as a still 'hardcore' Doberman which is simply not anymore... there is just no demand for it, people are buying Dobermans to be more as a pet dog rather than for their 'guarding'/working abilities, which in most cases need to be trained first because dobby's are not a straight biter such as Dogo Argentino for example. But I have only good things to say about your channel, nice videos!!! thanks for the efforts!
Uhhh i only know the breed Doberman Pincher also have a book about doberman body structure and doesn't say American or European. Their body structure depends on their genes and bones since 2 dogs wont look the same way. So for me personally both are the same not European or American. It's just that you found a dog which has a curvier body structure...
@@douglasborgaro6801 Could not agree more! We/I had a Euro Male and he was amazing 110 lbs of pure muscle and loved his familiy (defininitely momma's boy🥰). On a walk in the forest preserve, a woman was approching us with her Chow on the wrong side of her body (her right) nothing between her dog and me. My Dobe was on my left walking calmly on his leash. Without provocation this woman's Chow broke away from her and made a b-line for me and before I even realized what was happenning my Dobe crossed over from my left and and stopped it dead in its tracks before it got to me! Remy also stopped attacking/protecting as soon as I gave the command. Amazing boy! As for the woman and her dog, she did not even ask if I was okay or if my dog was okay, nor did she apologize to me. We had plenty of room on the path, so a heads up my dog is reactive would have been nice, at minimum (I would have gladly move off the path and put my dog in a sit/stay) and if it is that nasty muzzle it, if you cannot control it, keep it in your yard! We lost our boy Remy last August during the Pandemic at 12.5 yrs old to DCM and now have Gunner another Euro Male (9 mo old and 95 lbs - amazing temperment, already showing the same protective instincts and a sweetheart with our nephews and us). Lynn
I ended up keeping a Doberman for a friend, and I was a little nervous at first. I took him for walks and started testing his abilities, throwing large sticks and hiking, he turned out to be one of the best dogs I ever had- responsive, obedient, and affectionate. I loved that dog!
I'm on my 8th Doberman Pinscher since 1977. I've owned 7 American & I now own my first European, 5 were females, last 3have been male's... I've found that I love the Euro better, than the American, but have loved my Americans as well.. I just simply like the more stout sized dobie, I find that male dobies are more hard headed in training, not because they're not as smart, just because they're more stubborn than females.... But I do like the male dobies more so... To me the bigger the better, I love to have protection, but extremely friendly as well.... My last 2 have been rescues, & I've already decided that I will continue to rescue dobies from ages 3 & up to senior aged dobies... Love, love, love the breed....
Check out the United Doberman Club website. This club located in the United States promotes a very similar program called the Breed Survey in which a potential breeding dog is evaluated for both conformational and temperamental soundness.
Economics - US supply will meet demand. If everyone wanted more European characteristics, then America would have it. Remember, government certification doesn’t mean much just look at DMV. If you want to forced to pay these fees go for it. In America, we have choice. You can reach their line, certificates, and even pay for any additional test you want.
@@twitherspoon8954 Because no regulation is what led to many breeds being bred for looks over everything else which eventually led to a whole host of health issues
I had a European male doberman everything this guy is saying is exactly right he was the best dog I ever owned smart, loyal ,loving , very protective, he was gorgeous about 100lbs I miss that dog everyday of my life he was my best friend
In Europe, nobody calls it European Doberman. We simply call it A Doberman or German Doberman when making a distinction between the two - American and German.
@@DobermanPlanet No one calls it a German Dobermann in Europe, just Dobermann. Neither do we call them pinscher, as it just means terrier. Nothing terrier like about a Dobermann.
@@0penminds Yeah I was aware of that. Actually in Germany they DID call them Doberman Pinschers up until 1948 when Germany dropped the word "Pinscher" from the name. U.S. and Canada didn't.
If anyone is interested more about the different Doberman terms such as Doberman vs. Dobermann vs. Doberman Pinscher, etc. I wrote an article about some of these differences here: www.dobermanplanet.com/difference-between-doberman-and-doberman-pinscher/
I always wondered why the two Doberman’s I have owned were so different. Turns out my first Doberman was European Dobermann and my current is an American. This comparison is pretty much spot on, only Bessie, my European was really Lazy and Nïx, my American Doberman, is really playful and HAS to have her playtime otherwise she’ll come over and talk to you and demand attention.
I have had Dobermans for close to 50 yrs. I lost my last Doberman Nov of last year. He earned 6 Obedience Titles and also earned the Title of Therapy Dog. AKC in the US does not allow a dog to hold both Therapy Dog and Service dog so I let him keep the Therapy title since he loved visiting patients all the time. He may not have held the Service title but he always was by my side and kept me feeling calm and safe till he passed away. I'm in the process of getting another large male Red/Rust Doberman and I will train him to be my service dog. Needless to say I love Dobermans. My first one was so popular the the kids were we lived they would come asking to play with him and he loved seeing them.
Totally agree! My wife wants our next dog to be an American, I'm leaning a little more towards European but not strongly... I could really go either way. They both have fantastic traits! Sounds like you have the best of both worlds!
How much was it for a Euro compared to an American? I want my next to be a Doberman (husky/rottweiler right now) but I’m not sure where to acquire one in the USA
I've always wanted a Doberman ever since I was a kid, especially European...but now after watching your video it made me realize American would be the best fitting for me. Thank you for that!!!
Although I am American, I prefer the German Doberman. Not only they are bred better, but they keep to their original training what the are meant for. American Doberman seems to have good training also, but kind of went to a different path. It’s interesting fact how you put this. Thank you for your video 😊👍
I have one of each Doberman. Male European and female American Doberman and you are spot on!! Your description is the most accurate of any that I have seen. The European Doberman likes to test his limits and is hard headed at times, like when I would like to sit on the couch. My American Doberman is very disciplined and a constant shadow. Both are fantastic dogs. I recently brought in two kittens and they took to them like the kittens are their babies.
The differences you see are not necessarily breed related. In general, male dogs are more hard headed and more often test their limits than bitches. Bitches are easier to handle and more affectionate.
well, now very few doberman line are very good as a working bred. It's the general consensus. Even in Europe or germany they don't use it anymore as working dog in police/military (they don't have the same aggressivity and prey drive as the original breed) or even in security field. They would prefer malinois or german sheperd. Or maybe rottweiler but even rottweiler are not use massively cause of the bad reputation of the breed or regulation of EU countries. Exemple in France, rottweiler are classified second category, it means you need mayor autorisation to raise it in your city, insurance, always on leash and with muzzle. Doberman are like in the same category of lap dog XD, no restrictions.
I don't own a Doberman. I have a shih tzu. U gonna lough and wonder why am a watching your videos.? I am uncomfortable around big dogs i don't know. So i love learning about different breeds of dogs that are perceived to be 'aggressive'. I love your channel. It is the best i have seen on u tube. The information is precise every well structured, organised and very informative. well done.
I've noticed in this video that the European Doberman has a nose and head more like a German Sheppard dog. I guess it all depends on you and a family's needs for each type of dog. I'm used to raising the Catahoula dogs, they are hard-wired and you have to give very clear strong directions, basically letting them know that you are the boss. If you have never owned one; then they are not for first-time owners. I do tho think that I'd prefer the European Doberman over the American Doberman. I'm very glad for this video so I can learn and discern in the end which type that I finally want to raise and own to go along with my Olde English Bulldogges.
I don't think this man understands that Europe is not a country with a centralised government. Ever European country has their own laws, also regarding dog breeding. I know in my country dog breeding is very regulated in order to prevent all the hereditary diseased from developing but also to make sure the dogs are treated well. In certain other countries in Europe it is not so and dog breeding can be a mess. I have heard many tales of people importing dogs from untrustworthy regions and the dogs turned out to be ill.
I like that in Europe they need licensing to breed and show. I imagine they still have some backyard breeders, but definitely not as much. I wonder if they have less genetic disorders and disease I'm curious why are they so different? Have those differences in the euro doberman been bred out? I would be inclined to want a real German doberman, i have a cane corso and he is Italian, I'm American.
I live in Finland (northern Europe) and in here almost all dog breeds are part of a program that's to prevent genetic disorders/diseases typical to those breeds, and it's different for every breed. It has been used for decades now and you can see clear changes it has made to many breeds for the better. If you wanna be able to register doberman puppy in Finland, it's parents need to be (healthwise) tested for: A) HD (hips). I don't know how this goes in US, but in here the results are from A to E. A and B are healthy, C is not healthy, but not totally crippling either, D and E are clearly deformed. Both parents of the puppy need to have A or B hips. You can also use dogs with C hips, but then the other parent's result needs to be A. B) PHTVL/PHPV (eyes) Both parents healthy or with result 1. Result 1 means dog has PHTVL/PHPV, but it's minor and doesn't change when dog gets older. Results from 2 to 6 means they have it, and it will develop and lead to possible problems (blindness) later in life. Dogs with those result are out from breeding registered puppies. C) DCM (heart) Dog has to be DCM free, result A. Test result is usable for 12 months, breeding dogs are tested once a year. D) CAH (liver) Result healthy. Test results usable for 12 months. All this has to be done before mating, and dog has to be at least 12 months old at the moment of testing for all of these. There are other things recommended, and many breeders do them, but these are the ones both parents of the litter has to have in order for pups to be registered. There are plenty of other rules too, health is not the only requirement, dog breeding in general in Finland is very controlled. Anyone can breed puppies without any papers tho, but if you wanna do it "officially", there are things for the dogs to be and for the breeder to be. But Finnish people are known for our punctuality and love to do everything very controlled ways, so this is just our country. Europe has so many countries, you can not make overall assumptions (even the kind there were in a video) about whole Europe's rules for breeding. Every country has it's own rules. I don't have answer to your question, because I don't know about american doberman's health issues and their commonness. I'm a vet nurse, and overall doberman is one of the breeds (among german shepherds) that have tendency to - what feels like - almost all diseases and disorders there are. Some of them may be very rare, but it's not known as a healthy breed compared to other breeds. Breeders work to change it, but you also have to be aware of their temperament and avoid inbreeding etc, it's complicated issue. Too much rules can make things worse, although they would be for health. For example when a dog with a disorder from healthy family tree can be better for breeding than another one that is healthy, but has disorder more widely all over it's genetics. But these days we use a lot gene tests instead of just examining the breeding dogs, they tell so much more. I love dobermans for some weird reason although I feel sheep herding breeds are my actual love and match made in heaven, and dobermans are different from them. The reason why I would not have a doberman is the tendency to so many health issues. Dobermans I've personally known have been healthy, but - as a Finnish person - I'm pretty opinionated on ethics. I avoid breeds with lot of genetic conditions and all breeds with dysfunctional head/body shapes etc. Doberman is working dog without anything extra on it, so I love the natural kind of look, but sadly health is still a big issue for them. In here cutting tails or ears is also forbidden, and so are collars with spikes on them like seen in the video (and electric ones) thru to animal cruelty law. Looks very weird to me, I'm so used to seeing natural dobermans.
We got our Doberman girl last year in England. There are only a few breeders near us (and in this country as a whole!) and they follow strict health testing and have to be registered with the right authorities. Our girl's parents were thoroughly tested before being bred; breeding these dogs feels much more orderly and regimented here than back home in the states. They also all have their floppy natural ears and long curly tails since the UK outlawed the cropping and docking of dogs. (Our girl is seriously stunning, we get stopped by folks a lot - often times they don't recognize her as a doberman though!) Some people here do import from Eastern Europe so that they can get cropped and docked dogs, but it's frowned upon. The dogs are said to have temperament issues and health problems as they are bred by large kennels and sent over at nearly four months of age. Our neighbor has an import and he's got that classic altobello look which is frankly kind of scary looking and not as refined as our girl.
I had a German dobie. He passed last year from cancer but he lived to 13 years. The most loyal dog I have ever had. You're totally right though, he hated cuddling and always wanted to be in the common areas of the home. He also was not a great guard dog because he loved humans too much LOL
@@Gg-xx7wq Probably liked being petted and talked/played with. I'm like that too. I like to be petted and physically played with, but I hate to be hugged and especially hate to be cuddled.
Both of my boys are American/Euro mixes! Perfect because they display the qualities of both! Huge lovable, emotionally reactive, but also extremely protective and alert.
While I like the massive, muscular look of the European dobermans, I am also very aware that the overall silhouette has been drifting further and further apart from the original working lines. The dogs are massive and some start to look more like Great Danes than dobermans. Sure, they are magnificent, but more mass means they are less agile than before, and prone to more heart and bone problems. Have you seen Canny Canines! (1940) by British Pathé on RUclips? It pretty much visualises what I mean, in regards to the difference with now-days dobermans. So, what I meant to say is, I think we should care less about the look (within the breed standards) and more about health and temperament and also we should require that the breeders think and care more about the health as well. Greetings from Germany, Eva & (doberman) Indi
I have a European female also, "Kaja." She is a beauty and a beast, haha. I think she finally tapered off growing at about 18 months. She has been 87 pounds of solid muscle for the past 6 months anyhow.
Hey I really want to get a Doberman. I am currently 19 years old and studying so my problem would be that the dog would need to grow up the first year(s) in my parents home until I could take him to my flat. (I would be home in the breaks for each around 2 months and at some of the weekends in-between). I am just scared that this won't be well for my dog to grow up somewhere else than with me. What is your opinion? Should I wait until I will get one or do you think he will be ok with basically changing his family as soon as he is an adult? Greetings From Germany and keep up the great content!
I think Dobermans are very adaptable. But one strong instinct they have is to bond extremely tightly to their families. It might be pretty traumatic to switch families (from the dog's point of view) after so long with your parents. I'd probably try to find another way with my living situation to be able to take one in. Or just learn what I can and plan my life to get one as soon as I get out of school. Good luck with whatever you choose!
I agree. Wait until your studies are over, you have a place with a big yard and can spend a lot of time with your dog. They don't do well being alone a lot. Prepare yourself to be a responsible dog parent, just as you will prepare your life to become financially independant.
Great video but I'm always against the pinching of the ears and the docking of the tails. I know it was done due to their original role of guarding, but as a family dog it shouldn't be. In most of Europe it's illegal if you want to show the dog and in the UK it is now illegal period. You have to have a vets certificate to prove that your dog was imported if it has the ears and docked tail. Still, good information.
@@xplicithiphop5132 that rhymes. I prefer the sleek look though. It’s kinda mythic. If I want a Panzer dog I’d go for a different breed.Dobermans have a sleek look in general and the American does that look better. Especially if it’s just a pet and not a working animal.
Pretty Spot on in a lot of your preference lay out. I did a lot of Dog training throughout my years not to mention having a dog my entire life. I chose the European doberman for its intermediate/expert training level, its beautiful structure and what i like to call its "Step back" factor. Most people who see a doberman but especially a Euro, tend to Step Back while saying, wow that's a pretty dog instead of just rushing up to pet before even asking as if it were a lab or golden retriever. Great channel! Very few doberman specific channels out there.
Here’s a thought, like me rescue a Doberman. There is nothing more meritorious, than helping out a Doberman in need. There are even young ones available.
There is nothing wrong with wanting a purebred dog its their preference. Also most people who say rescue just went down to the pound and got a free dog or rescued dog.
RHINOTIME117 uhhh no its because people wont train their dog. 90% of dogs in rescues and shelters have no obedience training and 50% of those adopted dogs are returned. Stop trying to guilt people for their preference because you dont know what youre talking about.
Amazing video , there are some channels who somehow want to increase their subscribers just putting those kind of over exciting contents in slow motion and music . You are not one of them , every video you put out makes us know something new and good about the breed. I keep looking out for your new videos and i believe being with you will do a lot of good to us owners as well as to the breed . Its becoming a knowledgeable doberman family...
Thank you so much for the kind words Koushik! Yeah my whole philosophy is I want to create the videos I wish I had when I was new to the breed. So glad you're liking the videos. I publish videos once a week. Right now it's on Sunday mornings.
Thank you, your guidance was great! I have had 4 dobermans already and am looking for my next one. I believe all were the American Dobies, but maybe not my first one, Dixie. She had the body type of an American, but the temperament and personality of a European Doberman.
For my next girl I will look for one from the good old U.S.A.
Unfortunately the answer for every breed seems to be the European one is better.
Nice one👍
Its a German Dobermann, mot European
Update on Ace - I have gotten him involved in playing some of the games ruclips.net/user/postUgkx1_veP7CApJK_GWy_TczaMciuG64PqJeU and I can see a difference in his confidence already! My other dog played along and he became intrigued - now its a daily part of our routine - about 3 times a day we do the shell game and the muffin tin game. I am so grateful for coming upon your training techniques!
I have an American doberman and I couldn't be happier!! All the girls swoon at the sight of him! He is so handsome and such a sweet, lovable boy!!! We have found much joy in him!!! And he's a terrific lap dog!! I highly recommend.
Definitely, the European Doberman looks much more beautiful and solid.
Yes, yet i have an american one
Mm Mm What? They said that the European ones are better. The American ones aren’t poorly bred either
American looks like a greyhound
The American one looks more like a show dog while the European one looks like a killer guard dog
There is only a German Dobermann because it's a german Race the Original
Great video. Would be interested to learn about differences in health: Heart, joints, eyes, bloat, VWD, melanoma, thyroid, cancer, average life span, etc.
There are the same in health but euro is the closet doberman you can get to the original
I got a doberman from the pound in 2016 after my long term boyfriend died. I needed a reason to come home, and she was it. I didn't realize there were two types of dobermans i thought the was just stocky but yeah i guess she is a European. She is what i needed and I was who she needed. She's a big baby and always intervenes when i date but I couldn't ask for a better friend.
Sounds like a perfect companion that you needed at just the right time. I'm very sorry to hear about your loss.
One of my fondest childhood memories was my mother's friends Dobermans. They lived on the farm and they watched the kids. I stayed overnight one night without my mom and was scared but didn't tell anyone and one if the Dobermans came in and laud right next to me and I went right to sleep
Great information. I am German...I trained my American Doberman on a U.S. Military Post. No, I wasn't a Soldier. But I did teach my dog in German Police command's.. why...I didn't want anyone not fluent in German to confuse my dog with American language. He only listened to me and there was a lot less confusion. He learned very fast. He was such a Great dog. I miss him dearly.
I've had both, currently on #5 in my life, take your pick :) great vid
Thanks so much Tom!
Loved this video... I would get an American Doberman... I adore their elegant look.
That's a very good video, comprehensive and correct information gained from first-hand knowledge, presented in a structured and easy-to-understand manner.
Surely it will help many people to decide which Dobie is the right one for them.
I especially liked the part where you said that, no matter which one you choose, the most important thing is socialising and training. From my own experience I can say, that is *so* true.
I trust my Dobies with my kid more than I trust the nanny 😁
Happy New Year from Germany, everyone.
Thank you so much, I'm very glad you enjoyed it and it rings true to your experience also. Much appreciate the comment!!!
my old European Doberman loved cuddles from my grandparents
I just bought a 13 week European puppy and forgot how strong willed they are. It’s been about 10 years since I’ve had one. I’m watching all your videos to refresh and get new ideas. I’ve had him about 2weeks and he is doing great but I need to do better. I love your videos and Thank you for all your help.
Great video !! I like European Doberman. But like you said there is no wrong way to go they are both awesome dogs .. not sure what Dallas is I suspect he is European
Thanks so much! Yeah I really go back and forth about which one I like more. I've decided finally that I just love all Dobermans. Lol
We have a 110lb European dobbie with champion show bloodline. He will not leave our side, highly protective highly playful very assertive loves affection and plays well with other dogs. He’s beautiful. We love him
Hello and thank you for these vids, they are very helpful. I just put down a deposit to get me one of these amazing animals. My father had a pair of them when I was very young and I always wanted one of my own. I’ll will be getting the Euro simply because it has all the behaviors I desire in a dog. And I prefer my dogs to be a bit on the larger side. We will be driving to Colorado to pick him up just before Xmas.
European totally into.. looking for 2 males Nero and Hess.. I'd like them to be from same liter... thanks for the video, learned so much
Very glad I watched this. Going to be getting first Doberman and didn't even know there are different kinds. Great video
Thank you for this video, I have an American Doberman that I adopted a year and a half ago. He was 7 and he's turned out to be the most amazing dog I could have ever hoped for. He totally adapted to living with 2 cats, and now I'm thinking about getting another one. Should I rescue again or get a puppy? What are your thoughts? If you have a second, I'd love the feedback. I don't want to mess up a good thing...
Love the video. Very informative!!! I would looove to adopt an American Dob, for his more rafine shape, and his cuddler side!!! But I realize how much big are there needs... Both breed look stunning!!! Thank you for sharing!❤️
My dobermann is a female , mother american and father european. She is crazy , frightless and extremly beautiful. Also she needs a lot of excercise I have a house with big land but also I have to go out 1 hour 2 times per a day. Her weight is 45 kilos. I love dobermann
All dogs go to heaven!
Except the bad ones
no
@Mr Sir Some dogs are born bad just as some humans are
100%
@@nisse18 yea
I’ve had both and they are both great! My American though is way more needy as far as touch, he can never be close enough ♥️
I Have an american doberman she is the most loving dog I have ever had. She really cares about her family.
still undecided. How about if i have a young child at home? Which one should i pick. Our neighbors on all sides have intimidatingly/inquisitive dogs; rottie, Pitbull (very well behaved), jack russell (too muck bark and activity) with a patient (i am being cautious) mastiff and something that looks like dogo argentino (too inquisitive). We are not experienced dog owners
I had a half Doberman half Rottweiler ,it looked like a European D.
It sounds like a great dog! How was his temperament?
@@DobermanPlanet pretty good
That must've been one hell of a dog! ♥️♥️
Thanks for this! I’ve always preferred the look of European Dobermans but I wanted to make sure I knew all the differences in temperament before a got one, just to be sure. I grew up with a pitbull, helped trained two labs as a kid, and then trained a husky almost completely on my own when I was a teenager, so I’ve got plenty of dog experience. I think I’ll probably go with a European, they seem like a good fit for me.
Did u get one bro?
Excellent video. Thank you!
I have a mixed European and American Doberman. Best of both worlds. She definitely kept the size of the European.
Dad is a black European and mom is a red American.
Our Dobe mix is totally the best of both worlds.
Great video, very interesting. I am from the UK and my Dobbie looked more like the US one. However she had more traits of the EU one, although some were pike the US one too. She must have been a mix of US and EU!
I have a 5 year old American male doberman who's also a amazing service dog. I will say hes had no confidence issues as far as being in new environments. He is very sweet and has zero aggression which makes him very approachable to friendly strangers. If anyone is looking for a good looking doberman that's more of a family dog and less a protector I'd agree American is the way to go.
Thank you for the video! You provide great content. I am having a hard time finding an American doberman! Doesn't seem like too many breeders, any advice would be very helpful!
I'll stick with the American Doberman Pincher. I base my preference on previous experiences. I don't have any experience with the European Dobermans but I'm sure they are excellent dogs, but the American Doberman Pincher is, in my opinion, exceptional.
If I am an inexperienced personal dog owner ( I grew up with 2 American Dobermans and raised them as a Kid but with help from my family) but looking to get my first personal Doberman now as an adult, but have a chance opportunity for a European Doberman that is presenting itself, is the genetic difference in temperance in assertiveness substantial enough to go ahead and wait for an American or will the European be easy enough if I work harder to train. I look the look of both, but was wanting a more calm doberman.
I'm so excited in April if everything goes well with me moving, I should be getting a American, European (or should I say German from looking at the commet section) Mix. I cant wait to get her even if i cant have her in shows the whole point of me getting the puppy is because I'm going to be living on my own an need her as a Emotional support animal I can take everywhere for protection
I had a German Shepherd for 9 years it will be in may! She was diagnosed with degenerative myelopathy and is to the point where she can barely walk on her own so I'm going to have to be putting her down next month! I start hands on training at animal behavioral college to become a dog trainer and was going to use my dog to be the dog that I use to learn how to train dogs professionally but looks like God had other plans but I did find a beautiful european Doberman that I will be getting in july!
I am very interested in a Dobie. I have been a German Shepherd guy for 26 years. I love GSDs. However, with both breeds, I am concerned about their lifespans. It was hard losing my GSDs. Now, I am hearing that Dobies have short average lifespans too. I am wondering if a European dobie lives longer? Better breeding standards in Europe.
I like European Doberman and u told good and bad u described very well.
I like the look of the European much more.
But I think the American would be a better fit for my Personality ❤️ great video.
Thank u. I have a dobie who is bulky not fat and i thought she was a mix with some other breed as well. Guess she is european. Overly protective of me her mom and if i pretend to be afraid stands right by my side constantly barking at the adversery.
I would like the american doberman pinscher because of its awareness of human emotions. I am a single professional that lives alone and I love creating emotional bonds with my dogs. I believe the american doberman is more of my personality
What is the book on the desk in background with Doberman cover? Is that Rudy?
Thank you for such a great video. I'm leaning more towards the European for its stanima, guarding and yet still a family dog.
It also depends on the owner
Would a doberman do good as a seizure dog? If so, would a American or Euro be better? Thanks in advance.
Hi I just lost my girl at 7 yo with liver failure...is that common?
She was my second dobe but the first was many years ago and had no issues and lived until she was 12.
Great info thx 🐾
ah..theres no "better" - theres "different" . All down to preference :) Both r great!
Thanks for your videos! Where can I purchase one in the U.S., Texas region?
You're right about American breeding being a free-for-all. My sweet boy, Hobbs, is so striking and handsome but I'm certain his family tree is a bit narrow. The family that bred his champion show grandpa, rode that horse into the ground, so to speak. My special boy is not terribly bright, he's high strung, has difficulty respecting social signals from other dogs and suffers from periodic tremors. I spent a long time training and socializing him just to try and keep him safe but he's like a kid on the spectrum. Poor thing. He's so handsome but I would never dare breed him because of his temperament.
This is a tough decision, they’re so different yet the same with such minor differences. I’m still torn between which one I should pick. I’m assuming that the American doesn’t feel confident in a new environment based off of its genetic makeup? Help please
I've had 6 American Doberman (5 show line, 1 backyard) in my life. They have never backed down from protecting my family. My dogs never had protection training, natural instincts.
I prefer the American Doberman, because I love dogs that are not very muscular, but I love elegant and affectionate dogs, but nothing to take away from the European🙋♂️
for me in germany it is a little bit sad to see this dogys without their tails and ears ...
Yeah that's a MAJOR cultural difference. It's crazy because sometimes I don't feel like us in America are that different than you guys in Germany and Europe in general. But here... it's pretty unusual to see a Doberman without an ear crop and tail dock. I think it's basically the opposite there...
More and more vets here in US refuse to do the ear or tail crop. I didn’t on mine and I love her to dead. She’s still a Doberman.
@@DobermanPlanet that's because cropping and other cosmetic surgery on animals is illegal in Europe as a form of animal abuse.
Yeah, I feel it is sort of wrong to call it European, when the ears are cropped and the tail is docked. That is illegal in many European countries and most importantly in Germany, the country were the FCI sets the breeding standard.
I 'm from the Netherlands and we have the same laws. Both are illegal. Unless there's a medical condition.
However, my father (biology teacher) once explained to me that in nature there are virtually no animals with hanging ears. Be it a wolf, lion, rabbit, bear. Even elephants don't have their ears hanging over the ear canal.
Hanging ears on canines are unnatural to begin with. They are a man-made thing. Not that i want to advocate the cropping, quite the contrary.
How would I import American Dobermans to the UK 🇬🇧?
I have had 4 dobermans over the years. All females. Three American, last one European, because I wanted a dog less likely to have genetic health issues, and thus live longer. The European doberman just passed away last month. She lived to almost 11. But wow, they should be two different breeds. American dobies are easy. Everything said about the German dogs is true, but on steroids!!! Very high energy, super high prey drive. Much tougher to train and have 100%recall off leash. I don't think she walked a step until she was probably 9. (Ran everywhere, and I live on 5 acres). Thinking of going 50/50 on German/American when I start looking in June. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? Will that give me the genetic diversity for better health, but more mellow like an American Dobie? Or maybe a Rotterman? I LOVE my dobies, so I want a long life with them, does anyone have any imput on those ideas and what I might get in personality?
Very informative video..
Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful!
@@DobermanPlanet Can i get your opinion, which line would be suitable to cross with german pinscher. Just curious.
Seems like European is a working dogs group and American is in decorative dogs group 🤔😆 and good pet quality.
‘Decorative dogs’ term is used in my country region to lump small decorative dogs (chihuahuas, toy terriers, toy poodles, etc).
Thank you for the video!
Thanks 😊
Just want to comment because I am from West Europe, people are talking about EU Doberman like it is one typical breed. When even in Europe they are different. If you go further to Eastern Europe you will still find likely a working breed. But If I will try to look for a 'working' Doberman in western Europe then I really need to look for it because it is very difficult to find. The working breed is not interesting anymore in west Europe and therefore a lot of good breeders are breeding out working instinct from the breed. So actually it is quite difficult to just compare one to another. But I see a lot of American videos how they interpreting EU Doberman as a still 'hardcore' Doberman which is simply not anymore... there is just no demand for it, people are buying Dobermans to be more as a pet dog rather than for their 'guarding'/working abilities, which in most cases need to be trained first because dobby's are not a straight biter such as Dogo Argentino for example. But I have only good things to say about your channel, nice videos!!! thanks for the efforts!
Uhhh i only know the breed Doberman Pincher also have a book about doberman body structure and doesn't say American or European. Their body structure depends on their genes and bones since 2 dogs wont look the same way. So for me personally both are the same not European or American. It's just that you found a dog which has a curvier body structure...
So u have any puppies for sell? Or know where I can get one?
American doberman:" I'm pretty muscular. "
European doberman curling 100 lbs and smoking a cigarette:" Yeah, you're ok."
😂😂 You have quite an imagination 😂😂
@@pauladaniels273 thank you
American Doberman is pretty fast though. I think their necks are rounded because they were bred to have more of a greyhound like body.
Pretty much exactly how it would go
Amerikanische Dobermänner sehen richtig schwindsüchtig aus. Nur Deutsche Dobermänner sind die Wahren! Gruß aus Bayern!
I personally like the European lines. Doesn’t look as “fragile” even though they aren’t fragile at all.
Agree. The euro has the ability to be an unstoppable terminator.
@@douglasborgaro6801 I prefer the sleek look . My dog wouldn’t be for protection anyway
@@douglasborgaro6801 Could not agree more! We/I had a Euro Male and he was amazing 110 lbs of pure muscle and loved his familiy (defininitely momma's boy🥰). On a walk in the forest preserve, a woman was approching us with her Chow on the wrong side of her body (her right) nothing between her dog and me. My Dobe was on my left walking calmly on his leash. Without provocation this woman's Chow broke away from her and made a b-line for me and before I even realized what was happenning my Dobe crossed over from my left and and stopped it dead in its tracks before it got to me! Remy also stopped attacking/protecting as soon as I gave the command. Amazing boy! As for the woman and her dog, she did not even ask if I was okay or if my dog was okay, nor did she apologize to me. We had plenty of room on the path, so a heads up my dog is reactive would have been nice, at minimum (I would have gladly move off the path and put my dog in a sit/stay) and if it is that nasty muzzle it, if you cannot control it, keep it in your yard! We lost our boy Remy last August during the Pandemic at 12.5 yrs old to DCM and now have Gunner another Euro Male (9 mo old and 95 lbs - amazing temperment, already showing the same protective instincts and a sweetheart with our nephews and us). Lynn
European Dobermann is purer than american dobermann and stronger.
I simply cannot decide. There's only one way to settle this.
**Gets one of each**
Count me in
@@mokonindyatmoko9175 me three !! one down(American) next is a European !
Yeap one of each show one & use the other for personal protection & shultizhound ..
Thinking the same
That’s what I’m talkin about !!
I ended up keeping a Doberman for a friend, and I was a little nervous at first. I took him for walks and started testing his abilities, throwing large sticks and hiking, he turned out to be one of the best dogs I ever had- responsive, obedient, and affectionate. I loved that dog!
Loved? Your about to make me cry 😢
@@Alex9971000 I think he means “loved” because it was his friend’s dog and he had to give him back.
That’s cool dude. You know what that means? Time to get you one! 😎
I'm on my 8th Doberman Pinscher since 1977. I've owned 7 American & I now own my first European, 5 were females, last 3have been male's... I've found that I love the Euro better, than the American, but have loved my Americans as well.. I just simply like the more stout sized dobie, I find that male dobies are more hard headed in training, not because they're not as smart, just because they're more stubborn than females.... But I do like the male dobies more so... To me the bigger the better, I love to have protection, but extremely friendly as well.... My last 2 have been rescues, & I've already decided that I will continue to rescue dobies from ages 3 & up to senior aged dobies... Love, love, love the breed....
May I adk...what organization (s) did you rescue from? I'm in TX.
If u wanna protection, you better may be go with rottweilers
Where did you get your European?
Dogs are not smart, you just have to change how you train.
Good man 👍🙏
I really like the American Doberman. Just love the look. I also like the European Breeding System. We need this system in America.
Check out the United Doberman Club website. This club located in the United States promotes a very similar program called the Breed Survey in which a potential breeding dog is evaluated for both conformational and temperamental soundness.
Economics - US supply will meet demand. If everyone wanted more European characteristics, then America would have it. Remember, government certification doesn’t mean much just look at DMV. If you want to forced to pay these fees go for it. In America, we have choice. You can reach their line, certificates, and even pay for any additional test you want.
Why would you want federal regulation for dog breeding??
@@twitherspoon8954 Because no regulation is what led to many breeds being bred for looks over everything else which eventually led to a whole host of health issues
@@TriMarko
So, you want the federal government to determine which dogs can legally mate with each other.
LOL
American doberman: I am the king!
German doberman: *hold my bone*
Haha!
There is no American Dobermann
@@canstark742 Americans ruined the breed. Let them have it. We don't need those in Europe
American Doberman: Sure. Now try to get it back.
My red German is not letting anyone hold his bone sorry
Doberman are classy GUARD DOG.
Totally agree! I love how stoic they are. They're not slobs by any means.
They’re the James Bonds of dogs 👍🏻
Not better than rottweilers
I had a European male doberman everything this guy is saying is exactly right he was the best dog I ever owned smart, loyal ,loving , very protective, he was gorgeous about 100lbs I miss that dog everyday of my life he was my best friend
I'm so sorry he isn't with you anymore. Thank you so much for your kind words, I'm so happy you liked the video!!!
@@DobermanPlanet how uch is the price for a doberman?
@@raffysungarngar3684 I have a video about that. Take a look through my channel! ruclips.net/video/kHzanK9r9Og/видео.html
In Europe, nobody calls it European Doberman. We simply call it A Doberman or German Doberman when making a distinction between the two - American and German.
Good insight! Funny how terms change a bit from place to place!
@@DobermanPlanet No one calls it a German Dobermann in Europe, just Dobermann. Neither do we call them pinscher, as it just means terrier. Nothing terrier like about a Dobermann.
@@0penminds Yeah I was aware of that. Actually in Germany they DID call them Doberman Pinschers up until 1948 when Germany dropped the word "Pinscher" from the name. U.S. and Canada didn't.
If anyone is interested more about the different Doberman terms such as Doberman vs. Dobermann vs. Doberman Pinscher, etc. I wrote an article about some of these differences here: www.dobermanplanet.com/difference-between-doberman-and-doberman-pinscher/
@@0penminds omg now I'm imagining a doberman with a terrier temperament.
I always wondered why the two Doberman’s I have owned were so different. Turns out my first Doberman was European Dobermann and my current is an American. This comparison is pretty much spot on, only Bessie, my European was really Lazy and Nïx, my American Doberman, is really playful and HAS to have her playtime otherwise she’ll come over and talk to you and demand attention.
So glad you enjoyed the video! Sounds like you have the best of both worlds though! I love both of these wonderful dogs.
@@DobermanPlanet
Black mirror
Spot on! American Doberman loves to play!!! At all times jajahahah
@@DobermanPlanet American or European… idk which
Yeah was confused with seeing the european ones, the sleek and silly american dobermans are apparently the ones i've encountered.
It’s all how you raise your pup my euro is a cuddling freak!
I have had Dobermans for close to 50 yrs. I lost my last Doberman Nov of last year. He earned 6 Obedience Titles and also earned the Title of Therapy Dog. AKC in the US does not allow a dog to hold both Therapy Dog and Service dog so I let him keep the Therapy title since he loved visiting patients all the time. He may not have held the Service title but he always was by my side and kept me feeling calm and safe till he passed away. I'm in the process of getting another large male Red/Rust Doberman and I will train him to be my service dog. Needless to say I love Dobermans. My first one was so popular the the kids were we lived they would come asking to play with him and he loved seeing them.
Doberman dogs are the best breed thats why
They’re all great in my opinion! My first was a euro, second an American and current a euro... love all three with all my heart!
Totally agree! My wife wants our next dog to be an American, I'm leaning a little more towards European but not strongly... I could really go either way. They both have fantastic traits! Sounds like you have the best of both worlds!
Doberman Planet I have
How much was it for a Euro compared to an American? I want my next to be a Doberman (husky/rottweiler right now) but I’m not sure where to acquire one in the USA
I'm in OH too! Where did you get yours? I am going to be in the market for one.
Doberman Planet do you advise getting a Doberman with kids, aged 3 & 7? I have a Staffordshire bull terrier who’s 8 as well! Thank you
I didn't know there were American and European Doberman's. Learned something again.
I've always wanted a Doberman ever since I was a kid, especially European...but now after watching your video it made me realize American would be the best fitting for me. Thank you for that!!!
Although I am American, I prefer the German Doberman. Not only they are bred better, but they keep to their original training what the are meant for. American Doberman seems to have good training also, but kind of went to a different path. It’s interesting fact how you put this. Thank you for your video 😊👍
I have one of each Doberman. Male European and female American Doberman and you are spot on!! Your description is the most accurate of any that I have seen. The European Doberman likes to test his limits and is hard headed at times, like when I would like to sit on the couch. My American Doberman is very disciplined and a constant shadow. Both are fantastic dogs. I recently brought in two kittens and they took to them like the kittens are their babies.
Ha! it's funny how they protect cats. Mine did the same and wouldn't let me take the kitten away from him, lol.
The differences you see are not necessarily breed related. In general, male dogs are more hard headed and more often test their limits than bitches. Bitches are easier to handle and more affectionate.
European working line doberman is the closest to the original bred Doberman you can get
Great dogs for sure!
well, now very few doberman line are very good as a working bred. It's the general consensus. Even in Europe or germany they don't use it anymore as working dog in police/military (they don't have the same aggressivity and prey drive as the original breed) or even in security field. They would prefer malinois or german sheperd. Or maybe rottweiler but even rottweiler are not use massively cause of the bad reputation of the breed or regulation of EU countries. Exemple in France, rottweiler are classified second category, it means you need mayor autorisation to raise it in your city, insurance, always on leash and with muzzle. Doberman are like in the same category of lap dog XD, no restrictions.
European all the way
I have a europian doberman
All day, every day 👌🏾
24/7/365/420/69
I HAD A DOBERMAN!
WONDERFUL DOGS!!!!
GREETINGS FROM GERMANY!😘
I don't own a Doberman. I have a shih tzu. U gonna lough and wonder why am a watching your videos.? I am uncomfortable around big dogs i don't know. So i love learning about different breeds of dogs that are perceived to be 'aggressive'. I love your channel. It is the best i have seen on u tube. The information is precise every well structured, organised and very informative. well done.
Thank you! I just love how the European Doberman looks like, they are beautiful, strong. The American doerberman is definitely more elegant.
I've noticed in this video that the European Doberman has a nose and head more like a German Sheppard dog. I guess it all depends on you and a family's needs for each type of dog. I'm used to raising the Catahoula dogs, they are hard-wired and you have to give very clear strong directions, basically letting them know that you are the boss. If you have never owned one; then they are not for first-time owners. I do tho think that I'd prefer the European Doberman over the American Doberman. I'm very glad for this video so I can learn and discern in the end which type that I finally want to raise and own to go along with my Olde English Bulldogges.
I don't think this man understands that Europe is not a country with a centralised government. Ever European country has their own laws, also regarding dog breeding. I know in my country dog breeding is very regulated in order to prevent all the hereditary diseased from developing but also to make sure the dogs are treated well. In certain other countries in Europe it is not so and dog breeding can be a mess. I have heard many tales of people importing dogs from untrustworthy regions and the dogs turned out to be ill.
I like that in Europe they need licensing to breed and show. I imagine they still have some backyard breeders, but definitely not as much. I wonder if they have less genetic disorders and disease
I'm curious why are they so different? Have those differences in the euro doberman been bred out?
I would be inclined to want a real German doberman, i have a cane corso and he is Italian, I'm American.
I live in Finland (northern Europe) and in here almost all dog breeds are part of a program that's to prevent genetic disorders/diseases typical to those breeds, and it's different for every breed. It has been used for decades now and you can see clear changes it has made to many breeds for the better. If you wanna be able to register doberman puppy in Finland, it's parents need to be (healthwise) tested for:
A) HD (hips). I don't know how this goes in US, but in here the results are from A to E. A and B are healthy, C is not healthy, but not totally crippling either, D and E are clearly deformed. Both parents of the puppy need to have A or B hips. You can also use dogs with C hips, but then the other parent's result needs to be A.
B) PHTVL/PHPV (eyes) Both parents healthy or with result 1. Result 1 means dog has PHTVL/PHPV, but it's minor and doesn't change when dog gets older. Results from 2 to 6 means they have it, and it will develop and lead to possible problems (blindness) later in life. Dogs with those result are out from breeding registered puppies.
C) DCM (heart) Dog has to be DCM free, result A. Test result is usable for 12 months, breeding dogs are tested once a year.
D) CAH (liver) Result healthy. Test results usable for 12 months.
All this has to be done before mating, and dog has to be at least 12 months old at the moment of testing for all of these. There are other things recommended, and many breeders do them, but these are the ones both parents of the litter has to have in order for pups to be registered. There are plenty of other rules too, health is not the only requirement, dog breeding in general in Finland is very controlled. Anyone can breed puppies without any papers tho, but if you wanna do it "officially", there are things for the dogs to be and for the breeder to be. But Finnish people are known for our punctuality and love to do everything very controlled ways, so this is just our country. Europe has so many countries, you can not make overall assumptions (even the kind there were in a video) about whole Europe's rules for breeding. Every country has it's own rules.
I don't have answer to your question, because I don't know about american doberman's health issues and their commonness.
I'm a vet nurse, and overall doberman is one of the breeds (among german shepherds) that have tendency to - what feels like - almost all diseases and disorders there are. Some of them may be very rare, but it's not known as a healthy breed compared to other breeds. Breeders work to change it, but you also have to be aware of their temperament and avoid inbreeding etc, it's complicated issue. Too much rules can make things worse, although they would be for health. For example when a dog with a disorder from healthy family tree can be better for breeding than another one that is healthy, but has disorder more widely all over it's genetics. But these days we use a lot gene tests instead of just examining the breeding dogs, they tell so much more.
I love dobermans for some weird reason although I feel sheep herding breeds are my actual love and match made in heaven, and dobermans are different from them. The reason why I would not have a doberman is the tendency to so many health issues. Dobermans I've personally known have been healthy, but - as a Finnish person - I'm pretty opinionated on ethics. I avoid breeds with lot of genetic conditions and all breeds with dysfunctional head/body shapes etc. Doberman is working dog without anything extra on it, so I love the natural kind of look, but sadly health is still a big issue for them.
In here cutting tails or ears is also forbidden, and so are collars with spikes on them like seen in the video (and electric ones) thru to animal cruelty law. Looks very weird to me, I'm so used to seeing natural dobermans.
We got our Doberman girl last year in England. There are only a few breeders near us (and in this country as a whole!) and they follow strict health testing and have to be registered with the right authorities. Our girl's parents were thoroughly tested before being bred; breeding these dogs feels much more orderly and regimented here than back home in the states. They also all have their floppy natural ears and long curly tails since the UK outlawed the cropping and docking of dogs. (Our girl is seriously stunning, we get stopped by folks a lot - often times they don't recognize her as a doberman though!) Some people here do import from Eastern Europe so that they can get cropped and docked dogs, but it's frowned upon. The dogs are said to have temperament issues and health problems as they are bred by large kennels and sent over at nearly four months of age. Our neighbor has an import and he's got that classic altobello look which is frankly kind of scary looking and not as refined as our girl.
Some say an American breeder added greyhound to his lines before the breed register was closed. Don’t know if that’s true though
Where can I get a European Doberman puppy here in the USA or what country do you recommend I go to for breeders?
Russia!
I had a German dobie.
He passed last year from cancer but he lived to 13 years. The most loyal dog I have ever had.
You're totally right though, he hated cuddling and always wanted to be in the common areas of the home. He also was not a great guard dog because he loved humans too much LOL
Hated cuddling but loved humans? Elaborate please
@@Gg-xx7wq Probably liked being petted and talked/played with.
I'm like that too. I like to be petted and physically played with, but I hate to be hugged and especially hate to be cuddled.
@@VwapTrader u a do
Both of my boys are American/Euro mixes! Perfect because they display the qualities of both! Huge lovable, emotionally reactive, but also extremely protective and alert.
This is what I would want.
That sounds like a perfect dog right there! I wouldn't mind a mix of both!
I have half and half too hes just a puppy tho
@@monopolyman6985 That'll be a great dog right there! Make sure to socialize him as much as possible while he's young and you'll have one awesome dog!
Can you tell me from where you buy it mix I would like to have one mix I have now American one thanks
I'll be getting my 2nd European Dobermann in a few weeks and I can't wait! The best dog I've ever owned.
Did tot get your pup yet? I love the European. They are gorgeous.
Dude how to raise them?
Will they need mates
How do you crop them
Which gender to have
Eyyy! My snout is so long, my body is long, but I was bought in Germany.
So I used to work with a breeder she helped me learn about confirmation shows. She sold a lot of her dogs over seas and so she kept them natural.
While I like the massive, muscular look of the European dobermans, I am also very aware that the overall silhouette has been drifting further and further apart from the original working lines. The dogs are massive and some start to look more like Great Danes than dobermans. Sure, they are magnificent, but more mass means they are less agile than before, and prone to more heart and bone problems.
Have you seen Canny Canines! (1940) by British Pathé on RUclips?
It pretty much visualises what I mean, in regards to the difference with now-days dobermans.
So, what I meant to say is, I think we should care less about the look (within the breed standards) and more about health and temperament and also we should require that the breeders think and care more about the health as well.
Greetings from Germany,
Eva & (doberman) Indi
Agreed.
I got a European female “Bambi” she’s about a year old she’s a straight beast
Congrats!
German you mean
I have a European female also, "Kaja." She is a beauty and a beast, haha. I think she finally tapered off growing at about 18 months. She has been 87 pounds of solid muscle for the past 6 months anyhow.
My Dobie is named Bambi also!!
@Ernest Hemingway Yes, I am a mean German. And so is my female Apolda Pinscher.
Hey I really want to get a Doberman. I am currently 19 years old and studying so my problem would be that the dog would need to grow up the first year(s) in my parents home until I could take him to my flat. (I would be home in the breaks for each around 2 months and at some of the weekends in-between). I am just scared that this won't be well for my dog to grow up somewhere else than with me. What is your opinion? Should I wait until I will get one or do you think he will be ok with basically changing his family as soon as he is an adult?
Greetings From Germany and keep up the great content!
I think Dobermans are very adaptable. But one strong instinct they have is to bond extremely tightly to their families. It might be pretty traumatic to switch families (from the dog's point of view) after so long with your parents. I'd probably try to find another way with my living situation to be able to take one in. Or just learn what I can and plan my life to get one as soon as I get out of school. Good luck with whatever you choose!
KingVince I would say wait
I agree. Wait until your studies are over, you have a place with a big yard and can spend a lot of time with your dog. They don't do well being alone a lot. Prepare yourself to be a responsible dog parent, just as you will prepare your life to become financially independant.
The German is the real !
Ps bin Deutsch 😂
Normal Person yes i mean the Original
Ps wen juckts
Genau!
GodDraugzZ ps mich juckts
@@Alvaro-em1dj aso ja das hat dich jetzt richtig interessiert dass er deutsch ist macht sinn ps wen juckts dass es dich juckt
Great video but I'm always against the pinching of the ears and the docking of the tails.
I know it was done due to their original role of guarding, but as a family dog it shouldn't be.
In most of Europe it's illegal if you want to show the dog and in the UK it is now illegal period. You have to have a vets certificate to prove that your dog was imported if it has the ears and docked tail.
Still, good information.
I like the American doberman...cause he looks more sleek and agile...
I agree with you. I would like to have certainly American Doberman but in Russia I can’t find this type of breed.
Looks more weak and fragile lmao
@@xplicithiphop5132 that rhymes. I prefer the sleek look though. It’s kinda mythic. If I want a Panzer dog I’d go for a different breed.Dobermans have a sleek look in general and the American does that look better. Especially if it’s just a pet and not a working animal.
@@dantan1249 i respect your opinion.
Pretty Spot on in a lot of your preference lay out. I did a lot of Dog training throughout my years not to mention having a dog my entire life. I chose the European doberman for its intermediate/expert training level, its beautiful structure and what i like to call its "Step back" factor. Most people who see a doberman but especially a Euro, tend to Step Back while saying, wow that's a pretty dog instead of just rushing up to pet before even asking as if it were a lab or golden retriever. Great channel! Very few doberman specific channels out there.
Thank you so much Daniel! I'd be lying if I said I had a strong preference. If it's a Doberman, I'll love it. Haha.
@@DobermanPlanet I agree with you. A great looking doberman no matter the origin is still the greatest dog out there.
Here’s a thought, like me rescue a Doberman. There is nothing more meritorious, than helping out a Doberman in need. There are even young ones available.
Completely agree. Such a great thing to do!
There is nothing wrong with wanting a purebred dog its their preference. Also most people who say rescue just went down to the pound and got a free dog or rescued dog.
Luna taylor One is the best ways to keep dogs out of the pound is by going to an ethical and responsible breeder. No more puppy mills and BYB:
RHINOTIME117 uhhh no its because people wont train their dog. 90% of dogs in rescues and shelters have no obedience training and 50% of those adopted dogs are returned. Stop trying to guilt people for their preference because you dont know what youre talking about.
@RHINOTIME117 I have 4 purebred dogs and all of then live with me and not in the pound. You can delete your hateful lowlife comment off the internet.