Expected Value

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2009
  • Thanks to all of you who support me on Patreon. You da real mvps! $1 per month helps!! :) / patrickjmt !! In this video, I show the formula of expected value, and compute the expected value of a game.
    The final answer represents the net transaction to you!! It means you can expect to be $0.875 richer than before you played the game, on average!
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  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 лет назад +17

    to be honest, it has been a long time since i taught stats. i plan on making some vids over the summer (too late i know) about stats though. i need to refresh myself first though.

  • @heybumwhereyoufrom
    @heybumwhereyoufrom 9 лет назад +41

    I have a final in 6 hours and you always save me, thank you so much!

  • @Tostakyi
    @Tostakyi 10 лет назад +6

    You're my favorite math tutor on RUclips. I've passed my math classes thanks to you. I just wish you had more stats videos!
    Thank you!!

  • @alexlin7379
    @alexlin7379 10 лет назад +2

    i have been doing some search on this topic for a while, and this is probably the best explanation i have seen. good job

  • @BlikeNave
    @BlikeNave 14 лет назад

    I am in tutoring for the first time in my life because my college xfer from JC to UC depends on this stats class and my gpa (which is fine, except for math). I am really determined to do well in this class, and this video is great. I learned today in psych that if you go home and review the material the same day that you learned it in class, it will help you to retain it- so I can sit here and eat dinner while learning and solidifying my understanding. You're passing me through college!

  • @rishikalia6022
    @rishikalia6022 5 лет назад +2

    I seriously wish you were my STAT prof. Your videos teach more than my prof ever could.

  • @shadowphoenix88
    @shadowphoenix88 12 лет назад

    I was pretty sure I understood the gist of this while working on a problem but was double checking my work. Stumbled here and you clarified it. Thanks!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 лет назад +1

    @yuyupb sure, but i would just draw pictures and not actually answer anything

  • @dnte2439
    @dnte2439 7 лет назад +1

    I wish my stats teacher could explain stuff simple like you. Great vid, helped me out a lot

  • @MrAwelshy
    @MrAwelshy 12 лет назад +5

    Thank you. This helped me understand expected value the day before my final.

  • @seathurlow
    @seathurlow 12 лет назад +2

    thank you so much for your help on this! This makes so much more sense to me now!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 лет назад

    @BlikeNave there have also been numerous studies done that show if you study/read something right before you go to sleep, it much more readily gets processed into your memory.
    i used to always look at important stuff for about 10-15 minutes before sleep... you will find you are thinking about it while you lay there, which can be good and bad!

  • @guerrero987
    @guerrero987 14 лет назад

    Ur a great teacher everytime I don't get something I go to you! Thank you.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 лет назад

    @Stirfry0 no, this is not ap calc

  • @Eqfreak1989
    @Eqfreak1989 13 лет назад +2

    Thank you very much!!! I really appreciate this video!! It's helping me out with a different kind of example. Thanks again!

  • @ramkumarnj7617
    @ramkumarnj7617 7 лет назад

    Very simple explanation to a seemingly tough concept! Thanks!!

  • @craigfishcake2543
    @craigfishcake2543 7 лет назад

    Excellent. Very clearly explained and simple to understand.

  • @Agilulfa
    @Agilulfa 13 лет назад +2

    @Agilulfa Actually, to make the piece of information "It only costs $1 to play" relevant, we would have to change all the variables, to make X stand for the amount of money one would win, but again, (-1, 1) would not be valid. Instead, the values would be: X= {-1, 0, 1, 9}, and P(X)= {1/2, 1/8, 1/4, 1/8}, and the expected value of X would be = (-1)(1/2)+(0)(1/8)+(1)(1/4)+(9)(1/8) = 7/8, which is the same answer given, but justified enough, and for how much one would win, not for...

  • @Lazy_Bones_Jones
    @Lazy_Bones_Jones 6 месяцев назад

    My sisters is in 3+ right now and your video managed to get into her head how to do these problems and I just wanted to say thanks. I had no idea how to do these and you saved my butt. This happened the night before finals for the added stress.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 лет назад

    @ThisIsMe812 i was not offended in the slightest. just pointing out that 99% of what you learn in school ends up being useless. people just seem to fixate on math though for some reason (i guess cause they have to think).

  • @crusadex1472
    @crusadex1472 10 лет назад +1

    Thanks a lot. I've watched your videos for pre-calc and everything. I'm taking AP stats right now and having a lot of troubles.

  • @bogarteyou
    @bogarteyou 6 лет назад

    Nice lecture! Thanks!

  • @vxvxvxvx
    @vxvxvxvx 13 лет назад +2

    One step closer to not failing my Alg2 class. Thank you very much :o

  • @Teppa00
    @Teppa00 4 года назад +1

    I guess this is the best explanation!! thank you!

  • @JehadAlamasi
    @JehadAlamasi 13 лет назад

    thank you very much Mr. Patrick
    your lessons are much much better than my teacher's lessons !
    the way you explain the details in a very simple way makes it easy to understand
    thanks again
    your student from saudi arabia :)

  • @syamalavaddadi3749
    @syamalavaddadi3749 4 года назад

    Thanks Mr.Patrick!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 лет назад +1

    @ThisIsMe812 and besides, how much of what you learn in school do you use in 'daily living' ? having a job usually means having a skill and having it mastered better than others. if math is not gonna be your skill, that is fine, but for some, this is a skill that makes money! me for example... i make my living understanding math! so to me, it is extremely useful : )

  • @ThickSaucebaby
    @ThickSaucebaby 13 лет назад +1

    this was very good thank you alot i am majoring in economics im in my first year and statistics has me lost without words but u did a great job thank you alot

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 лет назад

    @Srjuanando thanks : )

  • @maniac7314
    @maniac7314 2 года назад

    Amazing video sir!

  • @lilyashrafi4652
    @lilyashrafi4652 9 лет назад

    THANK YOU!!!!!! This was a great, easy explanation.

  • @blancmerlot
    @blancmerlot 12 лет назад +1

    Well, I failed stats last year and I am doing everything - even RUclips - do pass this year. Thank goodness I clicked on your videos. Our professor should watch your videos to see how it should be explained.

  • @smalliesmalls102
    @smalliesmalls102 12 лет назад

    Patrick you're just so funny and amazing all at once. So grateful 4 ur vids :D

  • @hendosilbo
    @hendosilbo 14 лет назад

    If a had a teacher like him in college , I would be now a Nobel price winner in maths.
    Bravo - this is honnestly the way for teaching childs in a pleasant way. Bravo - Patricos Koronos

  • @astridecarine7339
    @astridecarine7339 8 лет назад

    Thanks! Really helpful!

  • @gambart2002
    @gambart2002 13 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks a lot.

  • @arbenasatourian9491
    @arbenasatourian9491 4 года назад

    Gorgeous video sir

  • @sleepyandcool
    @sleepyandcool 12 лет назад

    i swear if i hadnt seen this video i would of failed thanks i like how you dont make it sound confusing this vid should have a million views

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 лет назад

    @The100mis you miss the point: you win $.875 on average, so after 100 games, you would be up about $87.50.
    and of course, it IS possible to be down money (try going to a casino)

  • @MrDanielttw
    @MrDanielttw 11 лет назад

    I started EV chapter today and i was lost..it helps me a lot..thanks.

  • @GFofaUTubeJunkie
    @GFofaUTubeJunkie 12 лет назад

    I'm looking for creative ways to express the expectancy-value theory of motivation for a graduate class in adult learning. I just might use this! Math is not at all what I initially had in mind, but I love this and think I can spin it to work for my project. Thanks!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 лет назад

    thanks!

  • @xomelissalucy
    @xomelissalucy 8 лет назад +2

    Thank you so much!:) I'm taking liberal arts and a lot of it is expected value.This helped me!!

  • @connorplank2989
    @connorplank2989 4 года назад

    this is really helpful, thank you!

  • @quintoflyer
    @quintoflyer 7 лет назад

    very interesting . well explained

  • @fidgetgadget3475
    @fidgetgadget3475 4 года назад +6

    04:24
    The sum of all probabilities must be one. ( Is it according to kolmogorov's system of axioms?) The way you have written it, the sum is 0.

  • @sarahwilson5625
    @sarahwilson5625 Год назад

    Great example, you made this so much easier to understand. Thanks.

    • @truelynoobed2696
      @truelynoobed2696 Год назад

      yo you here from a homeschooling website, particularly discoveryk12 aswell?

  • @eugenedidonato7959
    @eugenedidonato7959 3 года назад

    Thank you for giving an example verse all other math teachers who just give equations and your expected to just understand it.

  • @vodanh7514
    @vodanh7514 5 лет назад

    God bless u. The explaination is as simple as it should be

  • @benjiebarker
    @benjiebarker 5 лет назад +3

    so if I played 100 times spending $100, would ! win $87.50 back but lose $13.50, or would i win back the $100 plus $87.50?

    • @johnbrewer7221
      @johnbrewer7221 5 лет назад +1

      If you started with $100 you'd come out with $187.50.

    • @benjiebarker
      @benjiebarker 5 лет назад

      @@johnbrewer7221 awesome.!

  • @reginaldangelo2589
    @reginaldangelo2589 12 лет назад

    Never really paid attention in stat class..... exam in about a week....No problem I got patrickJMT to help me :D

  • @mariahkay_
    @mariahkay_ 11 лет назад

    Thanks this is alot of help!!

  • @jenniferdenison6252
    @jenniferdenison6252 2 года назад

    THANK YOU! The videos my instructor posted were so confusing and this method puts it into a perspective that make sense to me.

  • @keyamoni1602
    @keyamoni1602 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @LegendFlex
    @LegendFlex 8 лет назад

    Helped lots thanks

  • @niqswoods
    @niqswoods 4 года назад

    best explanation, thank you!

  • @anazertch
    @anazertch 10 лет назад +2

    Patrick, can you explain the Proof for the E(X)?

  • @Captain_Rhodes
    @Captain_Rhodes 8 лет назад

    Thanks for making a statistics video that isnt the most boring thing on the planet

  • @Hiver49
    @Hiver49 12 лет назад +6

    THis helps a LOT! THanks:)
    lucky that I didnt listen to the professor

  • @hectooooor
    @hectooooor 3 года назад

    Thank you very much, you explained it perfectly

  • @yosmuc
    @yosmuc 13 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much!! :)

  • @sasuke4fan
    @sasuke4fan 12 лет назад

    @laucherhan I think the 1 dollar you spend in each game is already factored in calculating the E(X)

  • @NThatHappened
    @NThatHappened 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the help - these vids really do help. Question for you, how much WOULD you pay to play this game...assuming a risk:reward ratio of 1:3?

  • @96gfan
    @96gfan 12 лет назад

    Wow thank you so much!

  • @alhaithamaljabri2203
    @alhaithamaljabri2203 5 лет назад

    One million subs, congrats!

  • @Agilulfa
    @Agilulfa 13 лет назад

    @patrickJMT Taking into account my other commentary (9 months later than these ones), I think there's confusion over what X stands for. If it standed for what one would WIN, not HAVE, and the expected value of X = $0.875, then, after 100 games, one would win $87.50, and one would have $187.50. That could have made it clearer for The100mis, but I guess she's not interested anymore...

  • @mikeman147026
    @mikeman147026 12 лет назад

    great job btw it really helped

  • @alonspitz86
    @alonspitz86 12 лет назад

    very good.
    thank you

  • @dannieboy824
    @dannieboy824 11 лет назад

    Wow, you actually make statistics fun! My teacher is hopeless

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 лет назад

    @ThisIsMe812 i bet almost every decision you make in life is really some variation of expected value. for example i mean, why not drop out of school? because the probability of getting a decent job goes up with an education. does one have to go to school to get a good job? of course not...

  • @athuldev3401
    @athuldev3401 6 лет назад +2

    Can u explain me how does this even work

  • @ao3rafique
    @ao3rafique 8 лет назад +1

    I wish you were my professor !!!

  • @Sunlitpickle
    @Sunlitpickle 11 лет назад

    you sir. Have earn't yourself a new subscriber.

  • @hsoley
    @hsoley 11 лет назад

    helped alot thanks

  • @briantotse3
    @briantotse3 11 лет назад

    And so the day before the midterm, not only did I learn that there was a God, but that he posted youtube tutorials on statistics.

  • @Tawkitoutti
    @Tawkitoutti 4 года назад

    This is very useful for my Rust gambling base.

  • @Weeeman5872
    @Weeeman5872 13 лет назад

    Would it not make more sense to subtract one from each of the positive outcomes? While you will definatly lose $1, if you land on $2, you gain $2, so overall you win $1. So there would be a 50% chance you lose $1 overall, 12.5% chance you break even, 25% you win $1 etc. Also, I was taught the probilities should add up to 1.

  • @evanmega
    @evanmega 15 лет назад

    So I think you so do a follow up where you make the bell curve and calculate the Standard deviation. Use a problem simialar to this. or if you want this on since you already have the mean. I wonder would it follow the empirical rule?

  • @parm6058
    @parm6058 7 лет назад

    Dear Patrick- Thanks for the video as always helpful. However, I believe that E(X) is independent of the number of times the game is played so whether you play once or 100 or 1000 times the E(X) will remain 0.875.

  • @alperfect9729
    @alperfect9729 4 года назад

    this is not only teach us how to calculate the expexted value for exams its also explain the logic behind the lottery games in general 👍

  • @marniemarie1
    @marniemarie1 14 лет назад

    sooo helpful!

  • @paulamarth
    @paulamarth 10 лет назад +6

    First let me say I wish you were my math teacher! Second thanks for all your videos they are getting me through my advanced math in university! Can you help me with this:
    your friend bets you $20 that he can pull 2 spades in a row from a deck of 52 cards (which contains 13 spades). What is your expected value from this bet?
    a. 17.65
    b. 17.76
    c 18.24
    d 18.57

    • @katsilianouzafeiria6037
      @katsilianouzafeiria6037 10 лет назад +3

      The expected value from this bet it depends from the number of spades your friend will pull out.
      if he will pull 0 spades --> you will win 20$
      if he will pull 1 spade --> you will win 20$
      if he will pull 2 spades--> you will LOOSE 20$
      GIVEN THAT THERE ARE 2 TRIALS
      The prabability of pulling out 0 spades is: (13C0 * 39C2) / 52C2 = 741/1326
      The probability of pulling out 1 spade is: (13C1 *39C1) / 52C2 = 507/1326
      The prabability of pulling out 2 spades is: (13C2 * 39C0) / 52C2 = 78/1326
      The expected value of this bet will be:
      (20$ * 741/1326) + (20$ * 507/1326) + (-20$ * 78/1326) = 17.65 (rounded to the second decimal)
      hope i helped!

    • @mental_suicide
      @mental_suicide 5 лет назад

      @@katsilianouzafeiria6037 brilliant!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 лет назад

    not everyone will see this.... it is taught in just about any statistics class, and sometimes in a probability/discrete math class.

  • @laucherhan
    @laucherhan 12 лет назад +1

    @patrickJMT so you were saying, if I play 100 times, after invested $100, I will have $87.50 in my pocket?

  • @MrIvanaranda
    @MrIvanaranda 5 лет назад

    I got it right!!!! :) thanks for sharing!!!

  • @adnancharania440
    @adnancharania440 11 лет назад +2

    At first it seems like getting $0.875 for spending a $1 is a bad choice. Is the right way to interpret this Expected Value problem as:
    "I'm spending $1 to receive an average of $1.875 per spin, thus netting $0.875?"

  • @KFish613
    @KFish613 14 лет назад

    my teacher can`t teach.. I just realised why it makes sense. this video is so helpful...thx

  • @mohammadanas3320
    @mohammadanas3320 6 лет назад

    Just Awesome!!!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 лет назад +4

    goooooooooooooood luck! : )

  • @ergosum5001
    @ergosum5001 10 лет назад

    How do you do this if you aim to win the 10 dollars in 4 tries? Then what will your expected outcome be? I can do this basic stuff, but I just recently got hit with an intense version about shooting darts and I can't figure it out for the life of me.

  • @chillingmeko
    @chillingmeko 7 лет назад

    Beautifully explained. I will use this money example. It's effective. XD

  • @Agilulfa
    @Agilulfa 13 лет назад

    @yoshiyambao Taking into account my other commentary, I think there's confusion over what X stands for. If it standed for what one would WIN, not HAVE, and the expected value of X = $0.875, then, after 100 games, one would win $87.50, and one would have $187.50. That could have made it clearer for The100mis...

  • @ryprate
    @ryprate 13 лет назад

    Could you possibly help me with a stats question???
    Mary has a free token to play a game. The probability that Mary will win the game is 0.05, so the probability that she will not win is 0.95. If Mary wins, she will be given $100, while if she loses, she must pay $5. Let X = the amount of money Mary wins (or loses).
    What is the expected value??

  • @kingofgods898
    @kingofgods898 3 года назад

    THANK YOU!

  • @drewg.3049
    @drewg.3049 7 лет назад

    If you win a dollar, you just get your dollar back, so that's (0*.125) or one-eighth of the spinner. Zero times anything is zero so you can leave that off if you want.The chance that you would lose your dollar is fifty percent, or expressed as a probability is .50 since the zero takes up half the spinner (-1*.50). The 10 dollar space pays off only 9 dollars since you don't get your dollar back, and that is one-eighth of the spinner, or .125 as a probability (9 *.125) The 2 dollar pays only 1 dollar since you don't get your original dollar back or (1*.25)
    (0 *.125)+(-1*.50)+(9*.125)+(1*.25)=.875

  • @morekaccino
    @morekaccino 6 лет назад

    cool. thanks

  • @XXgamemaster
    @XXgamemaster 7 лет назад

    I really wish you had some expected value vids for advanced graduate level math like stochastic processes...those are such a pain :/

  • @sleepyduck
    @sleepyduck 12 лет назад

    @patrickJMT i believe what ur saying is.. gambling is a loosing game..unless u got lucky..but this game...a "low risk game" ?

  • @cedua2152
    @cedua2152 2 года назад

    thx man

  • @yasiths
    @yasiths 14 лет назад

    u r the man..