NREVU | Pastor Gropes Ariana Grande On Stage At Aretha Franklin Funeral
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2018
- I was completely disgusted by the clip I saw of Ariana Grande and the pastor at Aretha Franklin's funeral. There's no excuse. It's not funny. It's not "okay". Christians must speak out.
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Cmon I'm tall and I know where a woman's waist is. This guy is a creep
I feel so bad for Ariana, you can see him clearly feeling her breast when she bends down and after he hugs her.
Amanda Meunier yea that was so....shocking and wrong. Smh. Thank you for commenting.
This is coming from a young woman. I am so proud of you. Continue to expose what you know is wrong in society and the church.
Corduroy66 thank you so much !
I hate to think what else he is doing to people in less public settings.
He knew exactly what he was doing.... and he knew exactly how to do it so it could still be trivial and seem unintentional. That was his only chance to have such a close interaction with her and he gladly took it, and used it for his own satisfaction and sick impulses. He abused his power as the preacher and I guess master of ceremony. He felt safe to intrude her space like that bc they were on camera in front of an audience, and knew she wouldn’t make a fuss, he strategically made that unnecessary joke to distract her (and the audience) from what he was doing so she didn’t even get the chance to process what was happening. He’s a piece of shit. Period. And of course she didn’t speak up, we have to consider she was in a black space as a white person, I’m sure that plays a part too and it’s adding to the conflicting feelings she is probably having about it. It’s fucked up all the things he used to his advantage to subdue her to this position. Smh
One of the problems is that church has turned into a stage. A circus, not a house of true worship. God bless you for your honesty and boldness on this issue!
It's just not about church. People don't want to talk about the elephant in the room. Black American men at respectable positions of authority should not be doing this 🤢 it happens way too often and you wonder why the out of wedlock rate in their community is at 77%. Even worse, outside of the black community 83% of biracial babies born to black men are also born out of wedlock. Pattern anyone? Common denominator is black MEN. They need to do better. There's so much abuse going on
Jono Ang I do think the focus on "entertainment" in out society has bled into the church. It's definitely more self-centered than God-centered in some instances. Thanks for making this point and for watching ! God bless you as well ⭐️
C Baba hey, thanks for your comments. I do think, however, the state of families within the black community is a separate issue. For example, within the Catholic Church the abuse allegations are largely levied at white males with no wives or children. We also see allegations against men in other organizations that are present in their households. This suggests that the issue is most related to situations where leadership/influence and centralized and there is little accountability for these leaders. Thanks again for watching !
He don’t know her but she’s an icon? Sick and disrespectful to his wife!
Pretty Brown Nomad Right! Doesn't make sense! Thanks for watching !
He's trying to be politically correct,trying to make her presence acceptible,Who even invited her and why? She was a fish out of water,being forced down our throats as an icon..really. And it was disrespectable,but mainly to ARETHA FRANKLIN.
Exactly. He's an idiot.
He has to have a long history of this. He just didn't start this behavior then.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts Sis. 🔥 What if this was NOT caught on Tape... 😲 Would most people believe Ariana Grande's #MeTOO When sexual harassment is reported, it will be graded by most. Those who have reported sexual harassment or assault, especially by powerful Men, have reported that they were NOT believed or lost their jobs. I felt very bad for Ariana Grande because she was clearly uncomfortable having her body touched inappropriately by the Bishop. 😢😭💔 #LoveFromCANADA 🇨🇦
Sunday Omony thank you for watching and commenting! This may be embarrassing for some and uncomfortable to speak out about but as you said it's worse for the victims who often end up confused and afraid after these things occur.
Hi @@HelenBelenShow! I agree with you 100%. Bless your heart for speaking up about this serious topic. 💕 I also talked about this story with my Tribe because it was VERY disturbing for me to watch Ariana get touched in this manner on National TV. I hope Ari will speak up too! 😲
What is #meTOO?
Hi @@josepep! ☺The Me Too Movement (or #MeToo Movement) with many local/international alternatives is a movement against sexual harassment and assault. Read: metoomvmt.org/ #LoveFromCANADA 🇨🇦
Sunday Omony -& adds the Racial Insult of saying that Taco Bell Comment, While Groping her on National/Worldwide TV? We ALL know if he'd been White, he Wouldn't have been Preaching on Sun- he'd have been Hiding out for his Life!
You are absolutely right! Points very well articulated.
Favorito Ciel thank you!
You are welcome Helen.
Thank you Sister , this pastor needs to step down from pulpit to learn Holiness in the church and body of Christ. Apology is not good enough. God know what else he does in the secrete when no one else is looking. Holiness in the Church must be our banner.
He just needs to watch how he talks to people before saying something
Thank you girl..you literally took the words out of my mouth..I watched it live sick to my stomach....thank you glad I'm not alone...thank you
Lacey Reif thank you! Christian women are not the only ones held to the biblical standard of modesty. Men are accountable too. I appreciate your support.
A couple of things:
** Update: The Bishop issued an apology for what's he says was simply him trying to hug her as he done other performers and his joke regarding Ariana's name and Taco Bell. (One source, but there are many articles: www.cbsnews.com/news/bishop-ariana-grande-aretha-franklin-funeral-apologizes-touching-on-stage/)***
(1) If you're going to critique Ariana Grande's outfit, please explain the connection between her outfit and his behavior. Especially and Ironically since in this case the area he was groping was COVERED by clothing (not saying it would not be wrong otherwise).
(2) Even if Ariana went to the event when a PLAN to "seduce" men and "entice" men (which I don't think she did), a "man of God" is instructed to keep his distance from such a woman NOT to make physical contact in any way with her. The Bible instructs men to take action to avoid and flee temptation. The only person who's behavior you can control is yourself.
(3) It's important that we hold "leaders" to higher standard they committed to uphold when they were ordained/put in office. This is why people should not going into leadership quickly, without maturity, and without accountability because the calling is HIGH. Yes we make mistakes, but we have to willing to own them and accept discipline.
Did you guys view the Pastor's actions as inappropriate?
Helen Belen she was clearly uncomfortable.. and it was uncomfortable to watch ..
Thank you so much for making a video about this, and speaking out. I was absolutely disgusted, and disturbed watching that clip, and even more bc more people are not speaking out about this. It is very clear what he was doing, and the fact that people will still try to defend his actions is just as disgusting. I'm seeing more comments online about her dress (which I found inappropriate) than the fact that he took the opportunity to molest Ariana on stage in front of millions of people. I highly doubt that this was the first time "Bishop" Ellis behaved this way, he committed such an egregious act on National TV with no regard of consequences. Sadly, I'm certain that there are other people he has taken advantage of bc of his position. That "Bishop" is no man of God.
Thank you for your support. I too saw the focus primarily on her clothing and not on the behavior very troubling. I would only add that thought I don't support this man's actions, I understand that none of us are "innocent". I think the important thing is not idolizing pastors, or expecting them to be perfect but having accountability so that wrong things can be addressed and corrected. If necessary, some leaders may need to lose their positions if they are unwilling to turn from their ways. We have to stop turning the other way on these things and dismissing it using "judge not" as a justification. Thank you very much for watching and your lovely comment.
Helen Belen You're quite welcome, and thank you so much for responding to my comment. I certainly had to subscribe to your channel, and I will look forward to more videos from you. Have a great day.
Black Beauty thank you and you too! ❤
Finding this video Made my Day-Especially THIS one, with all the Mess on Capital Hill! I teared up with JOY, seeing your Young, Beautiful,& Sooo Grounded in your Faith, thoughts on this matter!!! You refreshed My Soul today-Thank you!!!!
P.S.New Subscriber!!!
Cynthia M Grooms thank you so much ! I really appreciate it!
It is exactly what you think it is.This is so shameful of him to grope her like that! And she could say it and he could not say nothing because that was on video!
And People are laughing at him TOUCHING her like they are laughing at Bill LOOKING at her. I think there's conversation about LOOKING as well, but TOUCHING and INVADING SPACE....NO EXCUSE. Can't believe it. smh. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank goodness you made this video!!!!! It was so hard seeing this! especially because it is not the catholic church
Megan Montgomery yes some non-Catholics may sit by smugly as the catholic sex abuses are revealed but it is not just a problem there. It's a problem in non-catholic churches too. It's also not JUST a church problem as we've seen in Hollywood and even government. I appreciate you support and comment Girl. Thank you!
I'm so disgusted by this preacher,by what he did to adriana and the ignorant comment he made basically about Spanish people.
Thank you for making a video about this you are so smart on the points you made on why Ariana Grande hasn’t came out and spoke on this cause When I saw this I was so disgusted I could barely stomach it this pisses me off so much because the Bishop knew you could get away with it without any punishment
Yup it made me wanna vomit 🤮
Are you a virgin?
@@kanagawayarichin oh shut up..
@@area51junkyard keep talking
@@kanagawayarichin shhhhh shut ur mouth
I’m glad somebody was talking about this, because that’s all that I couldn’t stop looking at. I was not hearing nothing he was talking about. It immediately caught my attention how he was using this platform to (excuse) his opportunity to flirt. He knew exactly what he was doing. And the parishioners need to take action on this.
Thank you for telling this our up in front.This was disrespect to ms grande ,and Aretha Franklin as well. this pastor needs to reprimanded . period .
Thank you for the video and for speaking out. There has been a noticeable lack of reaction from the public and the media about this incident and I don't understand why. Has this behavior become normalized?
Thank you
I'm black and I have never been to a funny black funeral.
Echad yea, I have. Not that the death of someone is funny but the things that often happen as people celebrate the person's life can be considered funny by some. Thanks for watching!
"it wouldn't be a black funeral,if there weren't funny moments". what the fuck are you talkin about? Damn how old are you? Very opinionated yet clueless.No I don't know you,but soo what ,that was a shitty statement, and i know i can leave your page,bla blah blah. Sit down somewhere, stop self hating,and disrespecting.
So no one ever got up and gave a small comedic relief? In a speech... to lighting the mood for atleast 1 second?
momo marley well, thank you anyway for taking time to express how you feel and watch my video. I appreciate that.
You are right ,soo i may have taken the statement the wrong way,I just think we as a race that's losing in this
society, we should be careful not to poke ourselves or make light of our shortcomings as entertainment for others.
You have my respect for telling it as it is!
What was he been doing off the camera? If he dared to do this in front of the camera. Girl, it had been a year but I still can’t get over it.
Thank You
Thank you for speaking the truth🙏🏽
Daym. Unbelievable right? I’m totally shocked... a funeral... a pastor .... on national television.... so bizarre......
Clergymen should ALWAYS be looked at with suspicion!
The fact that he has a daughter is even more disgusting
Yes u are so right
I totally agree with you! This is insane. I hope she is ok.
Helen Belen,
I agree with you this was so disrespectful and also did you see Bill and Jesse sorry Jackson face expressions. I bet poor excuse for a Bishop would not like if someone would do that to his daughter or family member.
Some men get into a powerful position & totally use it to do sh!t like this!!! I’m also a Christian woman & I thought it was sad to see someone who is supposed to represent Jesus act like that. 🤦🏼♀️. & Thank you for being one of the few who didn’t talk about “race”. This has nothing to do with “race”. It’s about right & wrong!!! God Bless you hon!! You’re a very wise young lady. 🤗
I agree and it’s very strange
This is exactly the reason why folks in the community and people all over tend to look at these pimp pastor's with a greasy side eye because they call themselves preaching the word of God but they are the devil in disguise with their dirty deeds, she needs to sue this is just disgusting!
I have two daughters and two granddaughters he would not be living right now or walking.Retired USCG.
Women need to speak out and become leaders in their own churches, spiritual journey, and in government also.
Thank you for referring to the Bible Scriptures' as an example of how a Christian male leader of the church is expected to behave anywhere to any female.
Ana Miller thank YOU Ana. I really appreciate you saying that ❤
Some are saying that his tallness meant his misjudged where his hand was but he was looking down at her at some point so he would have known where he was touching her.
Yeah. That looks very inappropriate. That pastor is a predator. Absolutely no reason for his hand to be there.
His apology was cocky and insincere. Wolves 🐺 in sheeps clothing
Like he really didn’t even have to hug her. These men always looking for a reason to touch up on a woman.
Preach girl
1 Timothy 5:2
Older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, in all purity.
On what basis these Bishops are chosen?
Should learn true Christianity.............
I totally agree
Im with you 100%👍🏽
This has happened to be before. Thats horrible
Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord ! My lord will judge and jury, god fearing Christian! Wouldn’t WANa be in his shoes! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Has she issued a statement yet?
Love the golden girls shirt
Thanks! Watching an episode now lol
thank you for being an iconic feminist woman of color ☁️♥️☁️ I fucking love you and support you with my whole ass heart. The fact that you can talk about your faith proudly while supporting women/oppressed people is remarkable and it is so so so appreciated. I grew up in a place where this kind of attitude wasn’t understood and distanced myself from religion because of that but this made me very smiley so thank you, lovely
As a man watching this this was done on purpose a lot of evidence proves it I don't know why people are using his height as an excuse
Exactly
I had the same reaction you did 🙀
Unfortunately, abuse of power occurs frequently whenever a narcissistic person has the opportunity and narcissists frequently rise to the top. For example, this also happens in Buddhist congregations and it is difficult to stop because it is often considered immoral in Buddhism to say negative things about another person, particularly a monk. Of course, if a victim can't report a predator (because reporting a crime is akin to criticizing) then the abuse continues. Anyway, Christians are not the only religous group that is afflicted with this problem. I am sorry for Ariana Grande though because I know she has suffered from anxiety since the nightclub shooting and she is still young.
Mael Strom thank you for your comment. You're absolutely correct. This happens anywhere leaders think no one will hold them accountable. I'm glad you mentioned that it's not just a church problem. Of course, I really want to push the church to be more firm than secular institutions on these issues. I appreciate you watching!
I can see an accidental touch and just move hand. Disgusting
OmG!!! Where is JUDGE MATHIS WHEN YOU NEED HIM
Guys seriously i get what you mean but what if it was an accident, he didn't even noticed and you all accusing him of groping
Smh
I AGREE..THIS IS DEVILISH AT IT FINEST IN FRONT OF MILLIONS N A FUNERAL TO TOP THAT..WE CAN'T TOLERATE THIS BEHAVIOR..SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE...DZ💯🈲✋👏
Good job. Give ‘me the word girl. 🙂
He thought was slick and forgot about everything else the camera his wife he was lusting in front of everyone was tempted and fell into it crazy
@Mika Evans her breast
We need to say a prayer for Ariana Grande; this has to be devastating to her. This man caressed her breast and it is shameful. He should have never put his hands on her and treated her with respect.
Great commentary
Maggie Edwards thank you!
Helen Belen you welcome have subscribed Queen
Maggie Edwards thank you!
Disqusting pastor...
Im not a christian or religious but thats so messed up what he did.
I was disgusted also when I saw where his hand was, and yes she was pulling away he kept pulling her in, Ariana is a pop star she don't know the dress code for COGIC Bishop Ellis should have just let her leave when she was done singing period
Keep the apology and just do the honourable thing and step down , he can fool man but can’t fool the most high god almighty , god don’t like ugly , yes her dress was not the best attire for such an occasion , however that gives no man the right particular a sleazy pastor from touching her , 😡😡😡🤢
This pastor needs to step down .he showed his church and God who he really is. people need to call him to step down.👿👿👿👿
that's what they do all in the name of Christianity, she's young that is how they dress come as you are! I shall not judge for I not be judge...
I would have felt uncomfortable too, intentional or non-intentional, it shouldn't have happened!
He's despicable n downright disgusting..he should pay for that..she was cornered absolutely n so embarrassed by d taco bell remark..more reason y these Sunday churches should shut down n these so call pastors who are really "high class pimps"go pimpin in d streets for real .
Shameful
them dudes were lusting after Arianna. I mean, what is there to look or grab at? I just don't get it.
Yeah he should have handled that better frfr
I see that Wow
Great job getting through your vid without using a cuss word for describing the pastors actions. Doesn’t matter what she wore he has no right to put his hands on her
Did you see how bill Clinton was looking at her
That NASTY Mo Fo!!!!
I'm from the Pentecostal Apostolic Faith myself and in the church they teach you not to touch them in for the ladies it was not your husband in the men are not to touch the women it was not his wife unless you're shaking hands he is a bishop he knows better but I think he's falling from Grace because a friend of mine's go to his church and he ran for his life he doesn't go there anymore I will not say what I know about but I do know this and I will say this is all on RUclips where he stole money from one of the members who lost her mother he stole thousands of dollars from that woman so he's not walking right up right right now so I'm not surprised he did that but I am surprised that they let Ariana where that small little dress they should have given her a choir roll out of respect one of the sisters should have pulled to the side and and gave her a choir roll to help her I know that probably would have been talked about to but it would have been out of love and respect for her cuz I would have talked to her and told her sweetie you should wear roll when you go up there I will get you one so that you won't be exposed because we're in the church and is it is a funeral I don't think she knew any better but I think it was so wrong what happened to her at the funeral and she just did the family Wishes the family asked her to sing at the funeral
I agree. Like he was way out of line. I wrote a song about exactly this ruclips.net/video/kP9Rs0pjHjw/видео.html one line of the song says “don’t touch my waist” and it’s about this same kind of uncomfortable moments
Right , someone needs to exorting this man and confront with the word of GOD , Because he knows the word, ARIANA MAYBE DOES'T KNOW JESÚS CHRIST, THIS CAN BE BAD EXPERIENCE FOR HER TO GET TO KNOW GOD.
tobafu f this is a good point. Abuse is wrong in any circumstance but one of the more horrible consequences of it when it happens at the hands of clergy is a crisis of faith and a distrust of the gospel. Thanks for your comment !
Yes..he should have put his arm around her shoulder or on her upper back..he knew what he was doing..
Let's talk about the elephant in the room people. Be brave and face facts!! Black men even at respectable positions of authority should ermm how do I say this? Totally not be doing this 🤢 and you wonder why the out of wedlock rate in their community is at 77%. Even worse, outside of the black community 83% of biracial babies born to black men are also born out of wedlock. Pattern anyone? Common denominator is black MEN. Please do better black men. Be responsible leaders
C Baba hey, thanks for your comments. I do think, however, the state of families within the black community is a separate issue. For example, within the Catholic Church the abuse allegations are largely levied at white males with no wives or children. We also see allegations against men in other organizations that are present in their households. This suggests that the issue is most related to situations where leadership/influence and centralized and there is little accountability for these leaders. Thanks again for watching !
You ae going to have a long road if you want to really pull back the curtain on the truth. I am happy you see with clear eyes. That is an amazing thing to have to keep you safe. However, the truth of it all is much deeper and twisted then you think. So, pulling back the curtain might make you question all you believe in. The fact that you had to go into the issue of her tempting men means that you are conditioned to the system. They have trained us to dismiss and downplay. That is where they hide. Also, there is a power structure to things and people want to keep their power. That includes the woman you probably look up to right now in the church. They will come for you, tell you to downplay it, make excuses because they want to keep their standing. Plus they are also deeply conditioned. So, really think about your steps and what price you are willing to pay because all you think it true probably isn't. That is why so many have left the church. To me, I just want to live the truth no matte where It leads. Blessings to you on your journey.
Nell C hey thanks for taking the time to express your thoughts. Did you leave the church? Was that your journey? And what are some truths you see are not being brought to the forefront? We have to start talking about these things.
I use to be Southern Baptist back in the day. I am 53 now. I was raised in Alabama. I did question everything and it didn't hold up for me. People seem to have forgotten that religion is about your spiritual well being and what type of person you live as a result of your knowledge. You have to separate your belief in God with the church. Society blends them and that is where the danger is. The church is a money making machine. They really don't drill down to the core questions of how true the Bible is or how you apply it in real life. Every church is different of course. I use to have an internet show where I interviews survivor around the world, many were from church abuse. I think a person puts on certain outfits and we are trained to respect that. Yet in reality they are a flawed person with their own issues. I have learned to never give blind trust and next put anyone on a pedestal. Even if you deeply respect them, you still have to remember they are flawed and just a human trying to figure it out. You just have to remember that anything that is designed for profit is a system not designed to speak to your spirit. This man doing this really drove me crazy because I have seen and heard so much. The way society blows it off or turns it on her is something that still exist, even after all that we have fought to be treated better. I am glad you are open to hear things. You are a very intelligent young lady. It is people like you that will change things to be more real and safe for others. Blessings to you.
My religion is energy of the spirit. To connect my core self to my internal and external world where they live as close to one as possible. I also believe in my connection on a cellular level to the Universe and connected to all things.
Nell C Thank you for sharing. Your story and experience is similar to others I have heard. Sadly in the past when "Christians" had control of the legal, political, and social arenas, questioning practices and teaching was not encouraged. On a macro level, the discipline of defending the faith has existed for hundreds of years but this did not get down to the micro (church congregation) level it seems. So when people watch a History Channel documentary or read the Da Vinci Code (just a few examples) or simply have access to the internet they begin to have deep questions that are dismissed by church leadership. Eventually they just leave. This of course is made even worse by hypocrisy and abuse like we were just talking about. Thankfully, we as followers of Jesus are slowing losing the privilege of hiding behind "this is just the way it is" and starting to dig deep to learn what we believe and why we believe it. We are also learning to "clean our own side of street" (as I said in the video) and call out hypocrisy and double standards more and more. Im glad I've gotten a chance to hear your experience and current religious status because it helps me learn a little more about how far reaching these problems are. Thank you for your kind words and speaking with me. Blessings to you as well.
You are so intelligent and see things so clearly. Those streets can't be cleaned in my opinion. The youth have to start a structure that works for them. A belief system that makes sense. I always thought about starting a place that speaks to real life. Mine would not include a God but a belief in humanity. I know there is something called Humanist but still finding my way. You will go so far. If something can't be questioned and twisted and turned in the light, then it is not something you should give your spiritual life over too. You know it is your soul when it is real. Sometimes that is a lonely path but one worth walking.
He sick !!!!!!!an why ur (daughter) have tell u dad u is old (60)😢😢😢😢😠😠😠😠😠😑😑😑😑an then move to (tocobell) fr nigga smh. Is thing like these mashup relationship when u heard the pastor or Bishop is sleeping with ur wife!!!😑😑😑😑😑
I agree
This is why spirituality will replace religion. True spirituality acknowledges the feminine, and masculine aspects of creation, and values them with equal measure. Religion teaches women that their existence is the result of a diabolical interaction, and that they are inherently sinful, and for that, they should be punished. Punished for being female? That's ridiculous. Spiritual men see people for who they are. No article of clothing could ever overshadow the truth that exists within; the soul.
Nope. You'd do better, if you claimed to have seen an alien space craft. You and too many others, have too much bias time on your hands.
If you wanna same the 'pastor' "groped Ariana, then he must have groped Smokey Robinson on that same stage. No-one seemed to have anything to say that the pastor ,also had Smokey in that same side hug.Is it the pastors fault that Ariana is 4ft 4 while wearing stilts. An actual hug, would be a darn choke hold because of the height difference. That alleged 'grope hold' was at the same level as the hug he had around Smokey's waist.
And, what made it worse, the pastor dude felt a need to apologize for what; because a bunch of Golden Girl feminists, felt shamed that the presenting pastor wasn't a female or being effeminate enough? If Ariana, had anything to truly worry about, it was not getting a cramped neck, attempting to look anyone over 5ft in the eye, while speaking with them. Or worring about keeping that Barbie dress, she was wearing down. Or... Making sure not to get dizzy and falling backwards off that small azz dais.(The pastor should have actually pushed her and the back up singers, off the stage. That was the worst, unrehearsed, rendition of a commemorative song ever to have publically happened; since Marilyn Monroe's version of Happy Birthday.
You and other bitter 'ME TOOers" need to go take a much needed nap, and wait for further instruction. Or just maybe, knock those victim micro-chips, off your shoulders and take a LOGIC 101 class.
That alleged 'funeral' was nothing short of a political concert. I wasn't even into Aretha's music or life like that. However, I give the entire SHOW, a C+ out of sheer respect.
At 0:51 she said me too........twice
I caught that too, she said "Oh my God," which I think was in response to her shock at what was happening, not his stupid "joke". Then he ironically stated that he gives her "all his respect" and she says "me too!" I don't think she was even hearing his words at this point. She was declaring #metoo and every single person there dismissed what was occuring in front of their very eyes because public decorum.
I wish this video would get more views because I'm tired of people defending this pervert! He was relentless... i felt so bad for her and sick to my stomach poor baby tried to save face but she was obviously uncomfortable! And as far as her dress people shes Italian and coulturally their attier is usually a bit more revealing than others. I trully feel in my heart she didnt know her dress would be considered inappropriate to the black community and hell i didnt either. She's young and fashionable of course she wouldn't look like Jhud or fantasia those are grown ass woman in a different age group. Anyway this man was so comfortable doing this you know this wasnt his first time doing such a thing. Smh
you right, sad to see a man of god..I wanted to bring up a topic to see what you thought. these day blacks can be racist on latinos and natives, it a hush topic foreal its sad because we all suffered under the same white hand. but its not ever addressed on urban media. (I hope this doesn't sound hateful,my gramma isn't the best, I was just trying to see if you were aware of this.?)
Go to ANY black church in the US and look at how the young girls and single mothers dress.....Ariana Grande was just fitting in.
Oh my! I am so sorry that all this took place. I keep hearing how disappointed more and more people are as time keeps passing. However, I must say that I have tried to picture myself in Bishop Charles Ellis' place. And here is what I have concluded: I simply cannot see how I would have hugged Ariana, and taking her into the pulpit would have been a no no...I think that I would have been trying not to show any special attention to her, because of how she was dressed. I think that I would have sought to steer clear of appearing to be turned on by her very revealing thighs. In other words, I think that I would be trying to steer clear of her, so that the people would not get a negative idea. I certainly don't think that I would be hugging her. BUT, that's me. However, there are times when pastors seek to help visitors feel welcomed to the point that at times they may over-do it. JUST MAYBE, in Bishop Ellis' attempt to make Ariana Grande feel that the Church was not one to heartlessly push her away, he was trying to make her feel welcomed in spite of how she was dressed. That he would disregard her attire and treat her special in spite of. That the Church was not cold hearted and selfish, but warm and compassionate, looking beyond her faults and seeing her needs...that she needed to feel included...because we don't know...Church members may have already treated her cold and with stand-offish attitudes, and the pastor may have detected it, and was seeking to comfort her as he would comfort his own daughter. Either way, God is fair and just, and He knows every detail of the matter. In conclusion, I believe that if Pastor Charles Ellis had the chance to do it all over again, he would not hug her as he did, or say to her what he said about Taco Bell; and I equally believe that if Ariana Grande had to chance to do it all over again, she would wear a more appropriate dress. I pray that everyone will find a degree of positive conclusion in this saying of Jesus Christ:, "He that is without fault among us, let him cast the first stone!"
Exposed as a fake pastor. Real men love and respect females. How dare he take advantage of a physically weaker person? Poor girl. I would body check or right hook him right there on the stage. Its on film. People would understand.
Feel sorry for the young girls at his church this man is clearly full of lust for young girls.
I'm curious would y'all be saying this if it was a white girl he did that too
Helen Belen you do have a valid argument
1 Peter 4: 17-18
She wasn't dress appropriate for a funeral.