All I am going to say is when we get to play off time and Michigan is 11&1 don’t cry that these guys cheated, I think again people are underestimating them again
The non-believers and haters will find out quick that Michigan still has players who are great. They are going to find out in week 2 when the Wolverines beat Texas.
@@timwilliams8343lol if, Texas is gonna learn about the big house really fucking quick. Text is going to get its teeth kicked in inside the big house and the best thing is everybody thinks Michigan’s gonna be a cupcake this year Texas going to learn the hard
The idea that Michigan is overrated is laughable. The amount of production we return on defense, most of which are our best players will make the unit still one of the best defenses in the country, and though it is true we lose a lot of production on Offense, we still return Donovan Edwards, Semaj Morgan, Colston Loveland and Max Bredesen. QB is still a question that needs to be answered very soon same with WR outside of Semaj and Tyler, but our O-Line should play at a decent level once again and I strongly believe that if we can even look solid or good in the passing game and our ground game really gets going, I think we could win 10-11 games easily. We don’t lose as much as Washington does, if we did than yeah we should be ranked lower, but we didn’t. We should still be a top 10 team, but saying we’re not a top 20 team is a complete joke and no one should take that seriously
@@hispanieldaniel What’s that supposed to mean? Michigan’s not gonna all of a sudden fall off of the face of the Earth back into the dark ages of Rich Rod and Brady Hoke
@@Wolvergeek99mich is an unknown right now they may not fall back to Brady hoke but they could easily go back to the first 5 yrs of harbs and that was horrible for yall. What's laughable is that mich fans think it can't happen. When the NCAA come with what ever they gon come with its gonna impact your program period end of story. Sharron is too new everybody is new you can talk about culture but karma is stronger especially if the foundation of your culture was built off of cheating.
You are discounting two things Michigan faces this year. The sanctions and lack of senior leadership. Half the team last year were seniors/final year players. With the large number of those players it will have an impact, especially with a new QB and new head coach. I believe the sanctions hanging over this program will have an impact, not sure what it will be. I do agree the defense with be elite but if the QB play is not up to standard (Ohio State last year) and the defense is on the field a lot longer, it will have an impact. Add the difficulty of the schedule, and fans of this program need to be prepared for a few steps back this year. 11-1 is not likely while 9-3 is probable this year.
@@GBU61 I agree. We do have some new faces leading the program this year, and QB play will have a MASSIVE role on how successful the team can be, but we still have what I think is very serviceable experience and talent to help us. As for the sanctions, I don’t think they’ll have a big impact on this season since from what I understand haven’t been passed down for this season, but depending on what those sanctions are, I think they could have an affect on future seasons. Though I personally think we win 10 games, a 9-3 season is very realistic. 8 at the absolute worst, 11 or so at the absolute best.
I played college football. I-AA. It's a big deal because it wasn't how Greg put it as he was with the Jets, got cut, and then Cincy signed. Teams do that in the NFL all the time. For you to sneak into a game though and film signals, that's 2017 Houston Astros, Bill Belichek Spygate stuff right there.
This is Collin's worst take ever. This is college football. There is 100% turnover every 4 years. Michigan is just reloading. The awesome thing for Michigan fans is that every time they are disrespected they play that much better. They embrace the underdog role. The ability to get the underdog role after winning the natty is a rare treasure, and get ready for Where Collin was Right/Wrong segments where he talks about how wrong he was about Michigan.
They are doing that turnover in one year. You aren’t back, you don’t recruit well enough, the staff that had the 3 year run is gone, the 1st rd QB is gone. It’s over Back to what you were before cheating…Penn St with better unis
@@foxbodyblues6709lol Michigan has reloaded every year since 2020 while losing top talent and coaches year in and year out. The culture is engrained now and I'm willing to bet they reload AGAIN this year. 4 years in a row BigTen champs? Idk, we'll see but they definitely are going to the playoffs.
@@mikeworkman1759 bullshit they reloaded. They had 44 seniors. These guys had been there since before the cheating started. Culture? The cheating culture? Is that what you mean? There is a reason Vegas has them at 9 wins in 24.
@@foxbodyblues6709 The intelligent programs know that class rankings mean nothing once the season starts. Michigan won the natty with the 17th ranked class in the nation. It's about player development son. not how many stars you came out of high school with. That's why other programs keep bringing in 4 and 5 stars players and have zero rings to show for it. Keep star gazing while Michigan will keep developing its players and getting them ready for the NFL.
Agree, Worst take by Collin that I have seen. The defense has, I would say, a 60-40 chance of actually being BETTER than last year's D. The O-line will always be very good at Michigan because that is their identity. So yep, Michigan is UNDERRATED, not overrated. Collin will have some explaining to do later in the year. He obviously has done no real research or he would already know Michigan's D will be as good or even better than last year.
Everything Greg said is fair. The thing he’s not accounting for is that when a player transfers/gets traded, you know they have your signals. None of Michigan’s opponents knew just how great of lengths they had gone to steal their signals before the game even started
The past three years in a row, you all underestimated Michigan. Next year was looking to be Harbaugh's most athletic team in the college ranks. Now it's Moore's team of course but you think these dudes are just going to flop this year? HAH! There might not be as many vets as last year but they reloaded. You can bet your hard earned dollar on that.
@@opitz30 no. Not true. UM had a 1st rd QB . They have nothing like that and nobody transferred in worth a shit. You will feel the drop off. That’s why Vegas has them at 9 wins. You think Vegas is biased or wants to lose $$$$?????
Wow. “If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying” is your take, but you want to draw NEW lines of what is acceptable? Absurd, completely ludicrous and a waste of time to listen to pods like this trash. Strikes 1 through 3. See ya
4:29 the bridge too far is a recording device?!? You get so close to calling out how silly this all is and just have to step back and dramaticize it because it’s not your school. Either stealing signals is wrong or it’s not. Record it Or write it down makes no difference. It’s a distinction without a difference man Let’s not forget that nothing, I mean absolutely zero is being said about Ohio state, Purdue and Penn State sharing michigans signs with each other in order to beat Michigan. Absolute absurdity! Hogwash! Poppicosh!!
This wasn't about stealing signals during the game. It is about recording opponents at other games than their own. So Greg thinks it is the other teams fault. lol
As a michigander that loves UofM (I had 4 brain surgeries at the hospital), I can't help but feel we sold our souls for the natty. Part of me feels like any consequences (short of being stripped of the title) and unknown years of rebuilding are going to be tough but worth it since we won the championship.
I think it's funny how McElroy says that he would figure out somebody signals by the fourth quarter but he's not saying what kind of competitive advantage he would have if he had their signals before the game started
Gaslighting at the Diesel Pump. Absolutely love how you discuss a hypothetical situation for minutes, declare it is in fact the opponents blunder, then say the thing that actually happen is a "Bridge to far" in five seconds. Again, this isn't about sign stealing, it's about widespread organized electronic surveillance. Which no one except Michigan was doing. FACT. And for McElroy to insist that you can just change ALL of your signals EVERY week is insane. This is AP Gaslighting 101. BTW, gonna love you "explaining" your position to Poppa Chop, Greg Shiano.
I think it's helarious hearing Michigan opinions. I will not be shocked if Michigan is actually better this year than last year. People think they lost all their leaders but they just don't realize the depth built over there and the guys who have been just as talented patiently waiting and a year better from development! Oline will be nasty. Dline nasty. Defensive linebacker nasty, d-backfield superior! Run attack nasty! The only question would be QB and I think they will be dynamic there to. Play calls will be better. I have more excitement for this year's team after watching our guys play who are still on the team than I had last year all be it we had a lot of upper classman leadership but guess what! We have a lot of upper classman leadership again so. We will see how it plays out. I think a lot of people who are not close to the program will be shocked
"The only question is at QB." Buddy, that's like saying "the only question is BY FAR the most important position in the game that will heavily determine the amount of points scored, the turnover margin, and the amount of rest the defense gets." It's so hilarious how you people downplay the QB position lol. Like, it's just some insignificant factor. And, I'm a Michigan fan saying this.
@@mattdrewdrums it's not me or anyone on the team questioning whether they will be solid at QB. I think they will actually be pretty damn good at QB and so does the coaches staff so that really all that matters. It's the talking heads and rival fans who question it. I care less what other fan bases or media think because they are not in camp. I trust the group of football minds at Michigan right now more than ever. They helped build a natty team so they earn the trust of being able to say something and it actually having backbone to it. We have 3 QBs on the team that are balling out from everything I'm hearing so worst case scenario they play like McNamara. I think they are all more talented than him so we will see. Leadership skills and heart will be the biggest need at QB to go with their talent
Penn St gets praise for their defense ,while their O is questionable but Michigan is Overrated ??? 😂😂😂 The Michigan Hate has OFFICIALLY STARTED!!! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
We won the big ten with Cade Macnamara! Dude probably runs a 5.4 40yd. His passing was mediocre (6 for 21 at Iowa spring game as a super senior?) Alex Orgi squatted 600lbs as a junior in high school and runs a 4.34 40 at 6’3” 240lbs. Please continue sleeping on Michigan. My biggest fear was what happens this year when we are no longer the under dog. Well hot damn look at that! Michigans got a full tank of disrespect to burn again this year! They’re gonna have to figure out new recipes for Crow this year because the servings will be HEAVY!!!!!!
@@thomasorzack5795 the difference being that it was proven a mediocre game manager can win the big ten with a physical, disciplined team. (Cade McNamara) Despite what national media thinks it knows, Michigan is still loaded, at all positions. Alex Orgi will be capable at handing the ball off to multiple, all big ten, American, possible heisman level running backs, that will be running behind a very likely Joe Moore award contending offensive line. All while being physically able to get the yards needed himself. He can also throw the ball which will surprise people. Michigan doesn’t require QB’s to throw for 3,500+ yards a season to be successful. 2,000-2,500 is plenty good enough. My point being Jalen Milroe is seen as an offensive threat, when you put him side by side with Alex Orgi, Alex is the higher caliber athletic specimen. People are largely ignoring this fact along with how Michigan develops its depth at an elite level. There will not be this cliff face fall off that’s being predicted by the suits and ties. All of this will be very evident by week 4. Michigan will be serving crow all season long, trust me.
They still have the best defense in the country. I mean there are 4-5 1st round talents on that defense right now. The only real question mark is at QB. They were unwise to not pursue a QB in the portal. Orji will have to do. Him saying they aren’t Top 20 is laughable.
Michigan fans can only point to how good the defense will be. Defense is not the problem. It is the QB in particular and the huge turnover on offense that is. Add the difficulty of the schedule and a new coaching staff plus the loss of so much senior leadership and of course there will be drop off.
Cowherd often makes astute statements then follows them up with the dumbest crap you’ve ever heard! This is a great example! To say what we lost and not acknowledge the returning talent & potential is lazy analysis! Do better! If there’s no smoking gun, nobody cheated!
They had a generational class for them, they have a class like that every couple decades no disrespect just look at their history. 10-2/9-3 is there usual season history doesn’t lie.
A generational class with 3 total 5 ⭐️? I don’t think so man. What has made Michigan so formidable recently is their culture. They go after older players in the portal, they choose players for character over their star rating, they’ve devised maybe the single best defensive scheme in recent college history, and they stack offensive and defensive linemen like Ohio state stacks WRs. While everyone else is trying to win through the air, Michigan is knocking teams out on the ground. Only way Michigan has a huge step back this year is if their QB play is god awful.
@@jackpackage4278 the defensive scheme is from Baltimore it’s nothing groundbreaking, the older players you had was because of the Covid deal they had more years to play. And most portal players are a bit older. History doesn’t lie Michigan gets a team like that every couple decades it’s just who they are no disrespect just the truth.
No one cares that they stole signs, quit oversimplifying it to make it easier to justify. The problem is they recorded games in advance to gain a competitive advantage. That is illegal.
If Michigan beats Texas... But, with a playoff season Michigan could lose 2 games and make it to the playoffs. I do agree that Michigan is more likely to step back...
And the first black coach in Michigan football history??, you can better believe he’s gonna prove it to everybody. He’s just as good if not better,, because he has to you’re a Benedict Arnold you turn against Michigan already
Signs are complicated. Changing them continuously is just not easily done, not to mention the NFL is a full time job, so a poor comparison. College has a limit on how much practice time they can have.
Michigan fans your take on Connor Stallions is spot on because we agree with you but your take on UM being overrated is bs because we don't agree. Typical!!
I see Michigan as being Iowa-ish this season. I think their defense will be elite and they’ll win some low scoring, ugly games. Offense won’t be as bad as Iowa but it won’t be a strength this year. However, they’ll score enough to win lots of games with that defense.
1) McElroy, please get off your high horse about recording devices after your anecdote about Pac-Man Jones jumping the route. You are literally a human recording device. That’s what memory is. 2) Colin, thank you for the fuel for Michigan’s locker room!
How moronic. A better analogy is because lobby laws allow corporations to pay off officials, campaign finance violations should still be prosecuted. Rules are in place for a reason. Sometimes we recognize a rule is out dated, and players are being exploited, so a rule should be changed. The difference is all teams are able to really participate. When one team breaks the rules and others are following them it is an unfair advantage.
You guys on here are emotional. He does these takes on purpose...a genius for getting OSU fans worked up about Michigan now this week saying Michigan is over rated. Great model.. everyone clicks.. he makes money lol.
How the hell did you just say that Michigan won't be a top 20 teams ? lmao I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. This has to be the most stupid thing you've ever said. hahaha
Agree with a head coach that is battle tested and a dynamic running game Alex orgy can gain a little confidence cause the blue print to win is already there The team knows what it takes to win I think they will compete again for a title
I typically like what Cowherd has to say but this one makes no sense. Same with Greg McElroy. Even if Michigan goes 8-4 and loses to OSU, Oregon, USC, and Texas, they will still end up in the top 25. And they will probably win at least one of those. A lot of the doubt has been placed on the lack of an experienced QB, but the guy who will probably win the job - Alex Orji -- is a superior athlete. The offense will be designed to emphasize those skills, similar to when Denard Robinson was the QB (except Orji is more of a bruiser). Assuming no major injuries, with the defense, the offensive line and strong running game coming back, all Michigan will need at QB in 2024 to be successful is a good game manager. You know, kind of like Greg McElroy was when he won a natty at Alabama.
We'll circle back on this at the end of the season! And to say Michigan is more overrated then ND is laughable!!! It really shows he needs to not talk about college football! Michigans D will win 9 games for them!!
I understand your points about sign stealing. Everybody does it. However, are there no ethics in College and Professional Football? How low can these sports go? Is there no floor? It sounds like you are saying get rid of the NCAA and things will be great. Sign stealing is great unless other teams are stealing yours. It is not easy to change signs every week. Should teams hire professional sign stealers?
If you break the rules to gain a competitive advantage, there are consequences to that. I will be very surprised if there aren’t sizeable consequences for cheating for 2-1/2 years. This seems to be the general consensus outside of Ann Arbor.
Just in Columbus lol. And there won't be anything big. But keep hope. It'll be even better when you find out the hammer is made by fisher price not Milwaukee
first of all if its not the big of an advantage, why do it at such a large scale. I hate that take. Greg even said that it makes a difference. It wasn't just sign stealing it was the in person way he was doing it. So everybody has to change just for Michigan so they can be allowed to cheat? lol
Hi Guys! I'd like your take! how about Syracuse? I know very crazy no one see's but look at their schedule. they only have 1 tough game Miami, Fl. No regular season games with Clemson or Florida St. They still could beat those teams with McCord. I know everyone knocks Kyle McCord, but he is a winner! 5-star recruit, leading an Ohio St. team that beat Penn St, Notre Dame and took Michigan to the wire last year. Now with their weak schedule they would lose in Playoffs but, I see them upsetting Miami, Fl and be ACC champions.
Shame on you I know you enjoyed and like Jim Harbaugh probably better than Sherrone Moore but you’re not even giving him a chance. He still has all those talented athletes on that team. You criticize him already and say they’re not gonna be any good shame on you and make it to the playoffs. I bet you $1000 they’ll make it to the playoffs… you got a good offensive coordinator and a good coach you forget Sherrone Moore was the one calling plays last year not Jim Harbaugh
Until Grant, Graham and Johnson leave, Michigan is far and away the Best Defense in College Football and it's not particularly close for second. Show me any other team with those two D-tackles and a top 10 Corner 😂. Remember Auburn back in the day with the Defense and Cam Newton. Orji doesn't need to be throwing for 250 a game to succeed in this offense even though he's capable. OSU and Oregon are projects with NEW QB's and last time I checked OSU lost their last 2 games😂. Orji has been playing in this system for three years for God's sake. Time possession and Defense still wins folks. The Meyer Florida and Osborne Nebraska team did just fine with Dual threat QB's. Michigan fans will take their chances with Alex 💰〽️🏆
OSU had numerous opt-outs for their bowl game vs Mizzou. If you think Missouri was better than them, I have some oceanfront property in Missouri to sell to you.
Michigan is among the elite defenses. It is not far and away the best, but among a small elite group. The B10 alone has at least 6 elite defenses in the country: (Michigan, OSU, Oregon, PSU, Iowa and Nebraska)
Go Blue! This is going to be a great year for the Big Ten. Us against SEC going to be huge in the 12 team playoff. Awesome! That being said Michigan will be fine. They will beat Texas, but injuries and a meat grinder of a schedule will put a big cloud over the season. The what if's and the should have beens' are going to be more prominent then ever. Lack of depth and leadership from the bench will be key. Alex will be a good qb But defense will be the biggest factor. Michigan D is elite. Stay healthy we beat everyone again. Defense again is elite best in the country.
Ah, the ole DEI statement. Buddy, we have heard this forever... Black players can't QB, black players can't be coordinators... What will you attack next? Love, peace, and happiness?
Contradiction to the max!!! How you gonna say michigan won the last 3 based on scheme stealing and then go on saying they're overated after they lost 5 yr seniors and depth.. who won??? Conner or 3 years of talent? You guys are insane lol completely ignoring talent skill and then saying they lost all talent and skill? At least your channel won by getting clicks
Cowherd ….. cmon man ! Do some research and look at that roster Michigan has returning including the returning leadership and experience I’ll be waiting for you guys to retract your statements after week 2 when Michigan Bully’s Texas in Ann Arbor … Go Blue
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Having confidence in Penn St and mentioning their defense and the overrating Michigan is crazy
Both of these 🤡🤡 doubted us last year. Cowheard or whatever picked us every year before the pandemic to beat Ohio
That IS crazy!
WE ARE!!!
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All I am going to say is when we get to play off time and Michigan is 11&1 don’t cry that these guys cheated, I think again people are underestimating them again
The non-believers and haters will find out quick that Michigan still has players who are great. They are going to find out in week 2 when the Wolverines beat Texas.
@justinschram if they get to 2 and 0, I can see them rolling into.Columbus undefeated.
It ain’t happening bubby
Where will Michigan be after they beat Texas?
IF...they beat Texas!
Should be number 1
@@timwilliams8343they will lol
@@timwilliams8343lol if, Texas is gonna learn about the big house really fucking quick.
Text is going to get its teeth kicked in inside the big house and the best thing is everybody thinks Michigan’s gonna be a cupcake this year Texas going to learn the hard
The big house isn't that intimidating. Terrible design for crowd noise affect.
The idea that Michigan is overrated is laughable. The amount of production we return on defense, most of which are our best players will make the unit still one of the best defenses in the country, and though it is true we lose a lot of production on Offense, we still return Donovan Edwards, Semaj Morgan, Colston Loveland and Max Bredesen. QB is still a question that needs to be answered very soon same with WR outside of Semaj and Tyler, but our O-Line should play at a decent level once again and I strongly believe that if we can even look solid or good in the passing game and our ground game really gets going, I think we could win 10-11 games easily. We don’t lose as much as Washington does, if we did than yeah we should be ranked lower, but we didn’t. We should still be a top 10 team, but saying we’re not a top 20 team is a complete joke and no one should take that seriously
“Time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.”
@@hispanieldaniel What’s that supposed to mean? Michigan’s not gonna all of a sudden fall off of the face of the Earth back into the dark ages of Rich Rod and Brady Hoke
@@Wolvergeek99mich is an unknown right now they may not fall back to Brady hoke but they could easily go back to the first 5 yrs of harbs and that was horrible for yall. What's laughable is that mich fans think it can't happen. When the NCAA come with what ever they gon come with its gonna impact your program period end of story. Sharron is too new everybody is new you can talk about culture but karma is stronger especially if the foundation of your culture was built off of cheating.
You are discounting two things Michigan faces this year. The sanctions and lack of senior leadership. Half the team last year were seniors/final year players. With the large number of those players it will have an impact, especially with a new QB and new head coach. I believe the sanctions hanging over this program will have an impact, not sure what it will be. I do agree the defense with be elite but if the QB play is not up to standard (Ohio State last year) and the defense is on the field a lot longer, it will have an impact. Add the difficulty of the schedule, and fans of this program need to be prepared for a few steps back this year. 11-1 is not likely while 9-3 is probable this year.
@@GBU61 I agree. We do have some new faces leading the program this year, and QB play will have a MASSIVE role on how successful the team can be, but we still have what I think is very serviceable experience and talent to help us. As for the sanctions, I don’t think they’ll have a big impact on this season since from what I understand haven’t been passed down for this season, but depending on what those sanctions are, I think they could have an affect on future seasons. Though I personally think we win 10 games, a 9-3 season is very realistic. 8 at the absolute worst, 11 or so at the absolute best.
Michigan football winning back to back national championships 🏆🏆💯💯
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Cheaters!
@@markgriffin5889keep crying 😭😭. Michigan football winning back to back national championships 🏆🏆
The less you know about college football, the more you think the sign bullshit is a big deal.
@@freeclimb5487 lol Collin compared it to j walking
I played college football. I-AA. It's a big deal because it wasn't how Greg put it as he was with the Jets, got cut, and then Cincy signed. Teams do that in the NFL all the time. For you to sneak into a game though and film signals, that's 2017 Houston Astros, Bill Belichek Spygate stuff right there.
Ohio State never changing signals - also laughable.
Unless it was happening to Michigan. Then it would be a huge deal
The thing that Greg described isn't remotely what their cheating scandal is about
This is Collin's worst take ever. This is college football. There is 100% turnover every 4 years. Michigan is just reloading. The awesome thing for Michigan fans is that every time they are disrespected they play that much better. They embrace the underdog role. The ability to get the underdog role after winning the natty is a rare treasure, and get ready for Where Collin was Right/Wrong segments where he talks about how wrong he was about Michigan.
They are doing that turnover in one year.
You aren’t back, you don’t recruit well enough, the staff that had the 3 year run is gone, the 1st rd QB is gone. It’s over
Back to what you were before cheating…Penn St with better unis
@@foxbodyblues6709lol Michigan has reloaded every year since 2020 while losing top talent and coaches year in and year out. The culture is engrained now and I'm willing to bet they reload AGAIN this year. 4 years in a row BigTen champs? Idk, we'll see but they definitely are going to the playoffs.
@@mikeworkman1759 bullshit they reloaded. They had 44 seniors.
These guys had been there since before the cheating started.
Culture? The cheating culture? Is that what you mean?
There is a reason Vegas has them at 9 wins in 24.
@@foxbodyblues6709 The intelligent programs know that class rankings mean nothing once the season starts. Michigan won the natty with the 17th ranked class in the nation. It's about player development son. not how many stars you came out of high school with. That's why other programs keep bringing in 4 and 5 stars players and have zero rings to show for it. Keep star gazing while Michigan will keep developing its players and getting them ready for the NFL.
Agree, Worst take by Collin that I have seen. The defense has, I would say, a 60-40 chance of actually being BETTER than last year's D. The O-line will always be very good at Michigan because that is their identity. So yep, Michigan is UNDERRATED, not overrated. Collin will have some explaining to do later in the year. He obviously has done no real research or he would already know Michigan's D will be as good or even better than last year.
Everything Greg said is fair. The thing he’s not accounting for is that when a player transfers/gets traded, you know they have your signals. None of Michigan’s opponents knew just how great of lengths they had gone to steal their signals before the game even started
Your take on conner stations is 100% correct. Your take on michigan is overrated is wrong
The past three years in a row, you all underestimated Michigan. Next year was looking to be Harbaugh's most athletic team in the college ranks. Now it's Moore's team of course but you think these dudes are just going to flop this year? HAH! There might not be as many vets as last year but they reloaded. You can bet your hard earned dollar on that.
Someone with knowledge 👍
@@opitz30 no. Not true. UM had a 1st rd QB . They have nothing like that and nobody transferred in worth a shit.
You will feel the drop off.
That’s why Vegas has them at 9 wins. You think Vegas is biased or wants to lose $$$$?????
I underestimated the cheating...
@@foxbodyblues6709 Nah, I just think they're Wrong!
@@foxbodyblues6709Vegas also said Alabama and Ohio State was go beat Michigan last season 😂😂😂😂
Wow. “If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying” is your take, but you want to draw NEW lines of what is acceptable? Absurd, completely ludicrous and a waste of time to listen to pods like this trash. Strikes 1 through 3. See ya
Stealing plays puts kids safety at risk, Colin. It's not Jay walking
Get with it!!!!
Cool what was your take last year during this time
4:29 the bridge too far is a recording device?!? You get so close to calling out how silly this all is and just have to step back and dramaticize it because it’s not your school.
Either stealing signals is wrong or it’s not. Record it
Or write it down makes no difference. It’s a distinction without a difference man
Let’s not forget that nothing, I mean absolutely zero is being said about Ohio state, Purdue and Penn State sharing michigans signs with each other in order to beat Michigan.
Absolute absurdity! Hogwash! Poppicosh!!
This wasn't about stealing signals during the game. It is about recording opponents at other games than their own. So Greg thinks it is the other teams fault. lol
Once again, pundits don't know what they don't know. Michigan will shock the world.
The media are clowns. They better keep the same tune when Michigan beats Texas, Oregon, and OSU
@@justinschram GO BLUE!!!
As a michigander that loves UofM (I had 4 brain surgeries at the hospital), I can't help but feel we sold our souls for the natty. Part of me feels like any consequences (short of being stripped of the title) and unknown years of rebuilding are going to be tough but worth it since we won the championship.
I think it's funny how McElroy says that he would figure out somebody signals by the fourth quarter but he's not saying what kind of competitive advantage he would have if he had their signals before the game started
I’ll come back for this receipt later. Michigan will take the B10 yet again. Go Blue!
We had schools that bought player with bags of cash everyone knew about it before Nil
I’m not subscribing but I’ll definitely hit the save for the receipt playlist
When Michigan's D rolls teams, week after week, this year, what will the haters cry?
They’ll blame it on the headsets 😂
Who is your QB? Finally won a playoff game after 3 years and you think you’re a dynasty 😂😂
@ajpierre
I'm confused as to how your question/comment address my comment about Michigan's defense.
@@fredbriggs2225 Because teams with bad QB play don’t win anything regardless of how good the defense is.
@@ajpierre won a B1G Championship with Cade McNamara so that something. I would take Orji, Warren, or Tuttle in a heartbeat over Cade.
Gaslighting at the Diesel Pump.
Absolutely love how you discuss a hypothetical situation for minutes, declare it is in fact the opponents blunder, then say the thing that actually happen is a "Bridge to far" in five seconds. Again, this isn't about sign stealing, it's about widespread organized electronic surveillance. Which no one except Michigan was doing. FACT. And for McElroy to insist that you can just change ALL of your signals EVERY week is insane. This is AP Gaslighting 101.
BTW, gonna love you "explaining" your position to Poppa Chop, Greg Shiano.
I think it's helarious hearing Michigan opinions. I will not be shocked if Michigan is actually better this year than last year. People think they lost all their leaders but they just don't realize the depth built over there and the guys who have been just as talented patiently waiting and a year better from development! Oline will be nasty. Dline nasty. Defensive linebacker nasty, d-backfield superior! Run attack nasty! The only question would be QB and I think they will be dynamic there to. Play calls will be better. I have more excitement for this year's team after watching our guys play who are still on the team than I had last year all be it we had a lot of upper classman leadership but guess what! We have a lot of upper classman leadership again so. We will see how it plays out. I think a lot of people who are not close to the program will be shocked
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"The only question is at QB." Buddy, that's like saying "the only question is BY FAR the most important position in the game that will heavily determine the amount of points scored, the turnover margin, and the amount of rest the defense gets." It's so hilarious how you people downplay the QB position lol. Like, it's just some insignificant factor. And, I'm a Michigan fan saying this.
@@mattdrewdrums it's not me or anyone on the team questioning whether they will be solid at QB. I think they will actually be pretty damn good at QB and so does the coaches staff so that really all that matters. It's the talking heads and rival fans who question it. I care less what other fan bases or media think because they are not in camp. I trust the group of football minds at Michigan right now more than ever. They helped build a natty team so they earn the trust of being able to say something and it actually having backbone to it. We have 3 QBs on the team that are balling out from everything I'm hearing so worst case scenario they play like McNamara. I think they are all more talented than him so we will see. Leadership skills and heart will be the biggest need at QB to go with their talent
@@ajpierre this should age real nice
Penn St gets praise for their defense ,while their O is questionable but Michigan is Overrated ??? 😂😂😂
The Michigan Hate has OFFICIALLY STARTED!!! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
We won the big ten with Cade Macnamara! Dude probably runs a 5.4 40yd. His passing was mediocre (6 for 21 at Iowa spring game as a super senior?) Alex Orgi squatted 600lbs as a junior in high school and runs a 4.34 40 at 6’3” 240lbs.
Please continue sleeping on Michigan.
My biggest fear was what happens this year when we are no longer the under dog.
Well hot damn look at that! Michigans got a full tank of disrespect to burn again this year!
They’re gonna have to figure out new recipes for Crow this year because the servings will be HEAVY!!!!!!
What difference does that make when playing QB
@@thomasorzack5795 the difference being that it was proven a mediocre game manager can win the big ten with a physical, disciplined team. (Cade McNamara)
Despite what national media thinks it knows, Michigan is still loaded, at all positions.
Alex Orgi will be capable at handing the ball off to multiple, all big ten, American, possible heisman level running backs, that will be running behind a very likely Joe Moore award contending offensive line. All while being physically able to get the yards needed himself. He can also throw the ball which will surprise people. Michigan doesn’t require QB’s to throw for 3,500+ yards a season to be successful. 2,000-2,500 is plenty good enough.
My point being Jalen Milroe is seen as an offensive threat, when you put him side by side with Alex Orgi, Alex is the higher caliber athletic specimen. People are largely ignoring this fact along with how Michigan develops its depth at an elite level. There will not be this cliff face fall off that’s being predicted by the suits and ties.
All of this will be very evident by week 4. Michigan will be serving crow all season long, trust me.
They still have the best defense in the country. I mean there are 4-5 1st round talents on that defense right now. The only real question mark is at QB. They were unwise to not pursue a QB in the portal. Orji will have to do. Him saying they aren’t Top 20 is laughable.
They have 2 1st rd picks on D. 2.
This D is gonna get tired because it’s gonna be a bunch of 3and outs.
From a 1st rd QB in 23 to a 7th year guy? Nope
Honestly, they didn't need a QB from the portal.
Michigan fans can only point to how good the defense will be. Defense is not the problem. It is the QB in particular and the huge turnover on offense that is. Add the difficulty of the schedule and a new coaching staff plus the loss of so much senior leadership and of course there will be drop off.
Cowherd often makes astute statements then follows them up with the dumbest crap you’ve ever heard! This is a great example! To say what we lost and not acknowledge the returning talent & potential is lazy analysis! Do better!
If there’s no smoking gun, nobody cheated!
gonna end up clipping this video for a end of the season edit
I actually think Colin may be on to something here - if anyone knows overrated it's Cowherd.
Love Colin, however, he's definitely smokin something with his Michigan take. Michigan will be a top 10 team this year
They had a generational class for them, they have a class like that every couple decades no disrespect just look at their history. 10-2/9-3 is there usual season history doesn’t lie.
A generational class with 3 total 5 ⭐️? I don’t think so man. What has made Michigan so formidable recently is their culture. They go after older players in the portal, they choose players for character over their star rating, they’ve devised maybe the single best defensive scheme in recent college history, and they stack offensive and defensive linemen like Ohio state stacks WRs. While everyone else is trying to win through the air, Michigan is knocking teams out on the ground. Only way Michigan has a huge step back this year is if their QB play is god awful.
@@jackpackage4278 the defensive scheme is from Baltimore it’s nothing groundbreaking, the older players you had was because of the Covid deal they had more years to play. And most portal players are a bit older. History doesn’t lie Michigan gets a team like that every couple decades it’s just who they are no disrespect just the truth.
@@jackpackage4278and their QB is not good
No one cares that they stole signs, quit oversimplifying it to make it easier to justify. The problem is they recorded games in advance to gain a competitive advantage. That is illegal.
If Michigan beats Texas... But, with a playoff season Michigan could lose 2 games and make it to the playoffs. I do agree that Michigan is more likely to step back...
When you can stop the run and run the ball better than 90% of teams out there, your going to be a top 15 team if not a top 10.
Collin is OBVIOUSLY A SHILL FOR SCum!!!!
And the first black coach in Michigan football history??, you can better believe he’s gonna prove it to everybody. He’s just as good if not better,, because he has to you’re a Benedict Arnold you turn against Michigan already
Signs are complicated. Changing them continuously is just not easily done, not to mention the NFL is a full time job, so a poor comparison. College has a limit on how much practice time they can have.
Either you have never played or you played for very bad coaches.
It's advanced scouting of the signals that's illegal not the fact that they're deciphering the signals during the game
Michigan fans your take on Connor Stallions is spot on because we agree with you but your take on UM being overrated is bs because we don't agree. Typical!!
The exact reason why this show has 3k views in 7 hours lol
butthurt michigan fans.😂😂😂
@@ajpierre butt hurt how?
What about the idea that they are fuckin cheaters???? They did, and disgusting!!!!!!!!!!! Bye Felicia 👋
Greg is smart. Even before knowing he has one of the best wonderlic scores ever at the NFL combine.
Why in the HELL do you hate Michigan so bad?
I see Michigan as being Iowa-ish this season. I think their defense will be elite and they’ll win some low scoring, ugly games. Offense won’t be as bad as Iowa but it won’t be a strength this year. However, they’ll score enough to win lots of games with that defense.
1) McElroy, please get off your high horse about recording devices after your anecdote about Pac-Man Jones jumping the route. You are literally a human recording device. That’s what memory is.
2) Colin, thank you for the fuel for Michigan’s locker room!
Boy.. do I long for the old days. Teams and players are so over hyped now. Five stars mostly bust in college.
They need those signs...
Michigan football winning back to back national championships 🏆🏆
Greg, problem is Michigan wasn't just doing it during the games, they ere advance scouting and recording them. That is a huge difference.
Not really but keep it up stretch Armstrong I'm it's helping you cope😂
How moronic. A better analogy is because lobby laws allow corporations to pay off officials, campaign finance violations should still be prosecuted. Rules are in place for a reason. Sometimes we recognize a rule is out dated, and players are being exploited, so a rule should be changed. The difference is all teams are able to really participate. When one team breaks the rules and others are following them it is an unfair advantage.
You guys on here are emotional. He does these takes on purpose...a genius for getting OSU fans worked up about Michigan now this week saying Michigan is over rated. Great model.. everyone clicks.. he makes money lol.
How the hell did you just say that Michigan won't be a top 20 teams ? lmao I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. This has to be the most stupid thing you've ever said. hahaha
Colin, bless his heart, is always way out there. He is an entertainer...and a fan of sports-okie dokie.
2024 Michigan = 2021 Clemson
This is perfect! Michigan has all the fuel.
Agree with a head coach that is battle tested and a dynamic running game Alex orgy can gain a little confidence cause the blue print to win is already there The team knows what it takes to win I think they will compete again for a title
Omg Colin a podcast now! Another stage for u to be wrong on , 😂 its almost a satire. bring on Klatt. All love Colin u are great entertainment. Thank u
Keep doubting Michigan . Isn’t that what everyone did last year. How’d that turn out ?
I typically like what Cowherd has to say but this one makes no sense. Same with Greg McElroy. Even if Michigan goes 8-4 and loses to OSU, Oregon, USC, and Texas, they will still end up in the top 25. And they will probably win at least one of those. A lot of the doubt has been placed on the lack of an experienced QB, but the guy who will probably win the job - Alex Orji -- is a superior athlete. The offense will be designed to emphasize those skills, similar to when Denard Robinson was the QB (except Orji is more of a bruiser). Assuming no major injuries, with the defense, the offensive line and strong running game coming back, all Michigan will need at QB in 2024 to be successful is a good game manager. You know, kind of like Greg McElroy was when he won a natty at Alabama.
Michigan went to the playoff with Cade McNamara
We'll circle back on this at the end of the season! And to say Michigan is more overrated then ND is laughable!!! It really shows he needs to not talk about college football! Michigans D will win 9 games for them!!
BET!
Without Jim Harbaugh.. Michigan can struggle a little bit
I understand your points about sign stealing. Everybody does it. However, are there no ethics in College and Professional Football? How low can these sports go? Is there no floor? It sounds like you are saying get rid of the NCAA and things will be great. Sign stealing is great unless other teams are stealing yours. It is not easy to change signs every week. Should teams hire professional sign stealers?
If you break the rules to gain a competitive advantage, there are consequences to that. I will be very surprised if there aren’t sizeable consequences for cheating for 2-1/2 years. This seems to be the general consensus outside of Ann Arbor.
Just in Columbus lol. And there won't be anything big. But keep hope. It'll be even better when you find out the hammer is made by fisher price not Milwaukee
How is it different when PU, RU, and OSU are sharing what they know about UMIch's signs?
That happens all the time. Did you even listen to the video? Lol
@@user-dk6us5go8p LOL. Right - so how is it different? LOL.
first of all if its not the big of an advantage, why do it at such a large scale. I hate that take. Greg even said that it makes a difference. It wasn't just sign stealing it was the in person way he was doing it. So everybody has to change just for Michigan so they can be allowed to cheat? lol
Brian Kelly hasn’t done shit. How is he a good coach lol?
Where Colin was wrong
Is this a joke? He needs to up the voltage on his electro shock therapy! 😂
Hi Guys! I'd like your take! how about Syracuse? I know very crazy no one see's but look at their schedule. they only have 1 tough game Miami, Fl. No regular season games with Clemson or Florida St. They still could beat those teams with McCord. I know everyone knocks Kyle McCord, but he is a winner! 5-star recruit, leading an Ohio St. team that beat Penn St, Notre Dame and took Michigan to the wire last year.
Now with their weak schedule they would lose in Playoffs but, I see them upsetting Miami, Fl and be ACC champions.
Shame on you I know you enjoyed and like Jim Harbaugh probably better than Sherrone Moore but you’re not even giving him a chance. He still has all those talented athletes on that team. You criticize him already and say they’re not gonna be any good shame on you and make it to the playoffs. I bet you $1000 they’ll make it to the playoffs… you got a good offensive coordinator and a good coach you forget Sherrone Moore was the one calling plays last year not Jim Harbaugh
LSU ain't gettin' it done this year. I think they will lose the the Gamecocks in Willy B in September...
Horrible comparison by the former QB.
Going to enjoy the feelings Michigan will hurt this season! Yall are sleeping on the juggernaut, watch and see! 👀👀👀
Until Grant, Graham and Johnson leave, Michigan is far and away the Best Defense in College Football and it's not particularly close for second. Show me any other team with those two D-tackles and a top 10 Corner 😂. Remember Auburn back in the day with the Defense and Cam Newton. Orji doesn't need to be throwing for 250 a game to succeed in this offense even though he's capable. OSU and Oregon are projects with NEW QB's and last time I checked OSU lost their last 2 games😂. Orji has been playing in this system for three years for God's sake. Time possession and Defense still wins folks. The Meyer Florida and Osborne Nebraska team did just fine with Dual threat QB's. Michigan fans will take their chances with Alex 💰〽️🏆
OSU had numerous opt-outs for their bowl game vs Mizzou. If you think Missouri was better than them, I have some oceanfront property in Missouri to sell to you.
Actually 9 of 11 starters played on offense for OSU champ👉
Michigan is among the elite defenses. It is not far and away the best, but among a small elite group. The B10 alone has at least 6 elite defenses in the country: (Michigan, OSU, Oregon, PSU, Iowa and Nebraska)
cam newtown made super man plays don’t you dare compare orji to him
Michigan will win some games this year but they only got beat two Ohio state and Michigan state and it will be a successful year....
Finally someone is saying it….Michigan is Sooooo overrated
Michigan,not even in the top 20??🙄🤷🏾♂️
Go Blue! This is going to be a great year for the Big Ten. Us against SEC going to be huge in the 12 team playoff. Awesome! That being said Michigan will be fine. They will beat Texas, but injuries and a meat grinder of a schedule will put a big cloud over the season. The what if's and the should have beens' are going to be more prominent then ever. Lack of depth and leadership from the bench will be key. Alex will be a good qb But defense will be the biggest factor. Michigan D is elite. Stay healthy we beat everyone again. Defense again is elite best in the country.
CC never played college football so he doesn’t know about the game
Mich with the DEI hiring... Hopefully he doesn't lose everything Jim harbaugh built.
Ah, the ole DEI statement. Buddy, we have heard this forever... Black players can't QB, black players can't be coordinators... What will you attack next? Love, peace, and happiness?
Michigan, gonna surprise you'll
Oh that's it, blame Ohio State because the other team cheated. LOL
Contradiction to the max!!! How you gonna say michigan won the last 3 based on scheme stealing and then go on saying they're overated after they lost 5 yr seniors and depth.. who won??? Conner or 3 years of talent? You guys are insane lol completely ignoring talent skill and then saying they lost all talent and skill? At least your channel won by getting clicks
Where Colin, WAS Wrong
Heard all this garbage last year as well. Idk why you do this to yourself Herd.
Cowherd ….. cmon man ! Do some research and look at that roster Michigan has returning including the returning leadership and experience I’ll be waiting for you guys to retract your statements after week 2 when Michigan Bully’s Texas in Ann Arbor … Go Blue
Not top 20? 🤦♂️ You guys do this for a living?
Basically their take is “Her dress was too short” yikes
Michigan is historically the most overrated preseason team per SI years ago.
Colin is on something.
Defend Harbaugh, are you kidding me, you are no expert in college football
Can't wait till y'all eat your words like always go Blue
Soon the season will start and the opinion of fools won't matter. 😊
Where is Michigan weaker this season than qb?
WR's are weaker
*Waits for Klatt to come in and shit on Colin*
Mich8gan 8 -4. Blue not a top 25 team