Is Digimon Survive Actually Worth it? | A Wrathful Review!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2022
- Today, we're going to determine whether or not Digimon Survive is Actually Worth your time, by going over whether or not it's the type of game for you and exploring its various systems and mechanics.
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The statement of saving ryo isn’t so much a taunt from the devs as much as advice for the second run so you know how to get the true ending without having to look up every detail to avoid spoilers since saving Ryo is the first domino to fall that leads to over events
I know its not intentionally a taunt but it feels like it lol
Given the fact you actually can get Ryo's affinity high enough you should be able to save him on a first run but it will fail anyway due to a programming check, it is more of a taunt then advice. 'You should have had their affinity higher... oh, you did have it high enough it should've happened? Too bad for you, NG+ is your only true option to save them!'
@@lilymoncat right but the average player who didn’t spoil themselves wouldn’t know that since playing neutral (not choosing one strict path like Ed did), no one else who wasn’t scripted to die died.
The problem is unlike disgaea or persona there is not much. Depth for a new game plus (granted I haven't played past the third chapter or so)
@@jsol_03 the average player, is not me, I'm the sort of player who would like to get a perfect true ending run on the first run, with save scumming the hell of it if the game allows for it. But this was just terrible design to not give the option, I spend like 24 hours just trying to save that guy, replaying the first bits over and over.
I know its gatekeepy in a sense and its the game creators fault, but i feel the game cant fully be reviewed without doing the true ending, keeping everyone alive, it really should have been available from the get go, it is the complete way to view the game
I can get that argument and understand that frustration. It being an option is probably the better choice buttttt...I honestly felt the "true" path was the most uninteresting one in the game. The deaths and tragic elements just add a layer to this game that no Digimon media has ever really done before. So I kind of get why the developers decided to go this route. It's like what would happen if Sora or Joe died in the OG show, and used that as a conspect. The feeling that something isn't going the "right" way.
Ultimately the choice should be there from the start I can agree but I well say it worked on someone like me that decided to do all the other endings before the true one and kind of realize that the little extra depth you get outside of the usual anime stuff just isn't there. It's just another Digimon show with the stakes turned up a little. If they ever try to something like this again they should definitely give the choice but I disagree that the "true" path is the complete way to experience the game. The developers definitely wanted to showcase a story where things aren't always going to work out, but you need to keep moving forward.
@@JusaWanderer but ryo and shuji ar literally he most interesting characters in the game
@@CrobatmanIamthenight Meh. I like Ryo overall and get his character, so him being the catalyst to make sure everything goes the "right" way was a great narrative choice because out of everyone he definitely had the largest amount of baggage.
Shujii can kick rocks for all I care. Don't care how sad or "relatable" his reasoning for the actions he takes. Don't put your trauma and take out your anger on other people. This can work for a villain or anti-hero because they have to work to change or get them to understand. The true path definitely made him more tolerable but unfortunately Ryo just kind of steals the show in showing why keeping him alive is actively great throughout the entire story. Shujii on the other hand is just kind of there with the dialogue going on about how he's changed but he's never given a chance in the story to fully showcase that change. I just found his arc and character done better in other mediums, hell Ken from 02 is just better. Overall the real goal with saving him is saving our boy Lopmon. Kid deserved better.
With all that said this kind of reinforces why I feel the choice to restrict the ability to save everyone wasn't a bad one but definitely think think it's the better game design option to allow. People want to feel like their choices matter. I get that.
Good Visual Novels usually don't have the true ending unlocked after a NG+, there's no branching paths really, it seems either you do it right or you don't, paths are locked behind which of the three decision paths you choose, it's a bit lackluster.
The biggest complaint is that you couldn't save Ryu and Shuuji at all, which is just a no-go for me, if I want a perfect game from the first playthrough, you should give me the option, forced deaths or failure state are just soooo annoying.
I was trying to many times to redo the first part trying everything to no avail, like what's the point, it's stupid, it's terrible design.
@@NoraNoita Yea, once i actually did the true ending i realised how stupid it was i was forced to do any of the others before hand, i should have ha dthe choice to see the true ending first thyen see the less optimal endings.
Having played most of the way through NG+ (Not in the mood to get my face torn off by Digi Gods recently) I can say that Ryo and Shuji do get a lot better when you save them. Ryo starts being a lot more helpful despite his complaining and Shuji gets his head out of his butt and stops trying to micromanage everyone.
It was nothing more than a visual novel that was passed as a Digimon game. The hackers memory variants were superior in my opinion. Maybe some app mons? Or even some of the Digimon ghost game stuff
I wish Intelligent Systems made this game. They tend to do a perfect balance of Story and Gameplay.
Digimon Survive is not for everyone. I really enjoyed the Characters. The story is a bit slow in the first 2 - 3 Chapters but it gets better along the way. The Translation isn't very good, but that's an issue in every Digimon Game sadly because they don't allow them to affort better translators 😔
I played two Routes myself (Moral and True Ending) and plan on doing the other ones as well at some point xD
If someone doesn't enjoy it, that's fine of course! Everyone is free to have their own opinion. I personally enjoyed it a lot. Not the biggest Fan of the Battles myself and I stopped recruting Digimon after a while because I just wanted to play the Story but yeah xD There are way more positive than Negative Stuff in the Game and I hope Bandai will put more faith into the Digimon-Franchise one day.
Played all routes, completed the Digimon roster(-Guilmon, sadly) and had a blast with the cast. The 50€ for almost 100 hours of playtime was a good investment, but I'm also someone who knew what they would get into and loves the combined genres. Would love a continuation of the series that polishes the concept.
I’m also disappointed that no matter what I do I can’t save anyone on the first play through. Having new game + is great but to lock the true ending where everyone is saved in it is just bad game design if you ask me
Agreed. I understand their intention, but it feels much weaker to me than a game thats endings are all possible from the start and depends on choices/gameplay.
Edit for grammar.
Acualy you cane save everyone on moral route by picking only moral choices except for tow scripted deaths shuiiji and roy. Locking true ending on new game plus is not bad game design it pro replay design if you ask me, that introduces you to the characters, tone of the game/world, adds tension to the story who going to die and introduces/explains characters issues. After finishing if you what a ending where everyone survives and all of them are very happy then you cane play it again later. Also many other japanease games do that also with new game plus locking Canon endings, gameplay modes, dungeons and other features.
@@rafalb692 I understand their choice but I don’t agree with it. If I’m making the right choices then I should save EVERYONE on my first play through even Ryo and Shuji but hey to each their own and I’m enjoying the game so that’s a win
@@nazeersadek6705 For me "True Endings" should be things you get from having found hidden components, completing unique puzzles, or being able to complete certain objectives.
For me the goal of the "True Ending" is to feel the sense of accomplishment for having done everything needed to get the "Happily Ever After". Needing to replay the whole game, potentially multiple times if you don't accrue enough influence with the other npc's, isn't a sense of accomplishment to me. It's just an obligation to get what should've been a possibility from the start.
@@MrMirageCaster getting true ending is not hard to get compered to other routs to be honest it very easy to get. You only need to talk to roy more often get his affinty up using savescuming, when he is saved game locks you to the true route only and that is it. After saving roy your choices only efect your partner digimon evolution
I’m confused by your statement about it being a good visual novel but disliking many of the characters. I’m a visual novel isn’t important to want the characters around/not actively hate them since it is so story based? Especially since one of the ending is locked in Ng+ that means some one might not even go for other games if they dislike the characters.
Compared to the several characters in the game including the digimon, the 3 characters I didnt like isn't that much lol
TLDW: If you're looking for action with lots of digimon and team building like previous entries etc this isnt the game for you, on the other hand if you like reading lots of textlines and storyline, sure give it a try....
Enjoyed watching your LP and finding your channel through this game. I will also say that Digimon does overuse Adventure quite a bit. They made Digimon Tri to continue the adventure story, a movie to that anime to continue it, and now a sequel series to it has been annouced. That's not counting the reboot adventure series that came out in 2020 either. So I do hope this game gets a sequel cause as you said it's great. But I'm hoping it doesn't continue this trend.
Nice review, I havent beat the game yet but finding out that certain characters will die no matter what you do on the first playthrough felt.... a little weird and I lwas legit annoyed. Since its basically locked behind new game plus, and to save them you need a high friendship, and while I understand its like.... it they get saved IF new game plus is on, if its off even if you meet the requirements the game will still be like HAHAHAH LOL U DONT HAVE NEW GAME PLUS YET. I found this out before playing and I asked myself whats the point in even raising my friendship or interacting with these characters on my first playthrough if it ultimately doesnt change anything. I also felt like some choices were odd for what path they represented, like i saw choice where the wrathful option sounded nicer and more polite than the harmony option sometimes.
exact same thoughts here.
Overall I had a good experience with the game. I think I definitely kind of found more flaws to point out then expected, but it's nice to see the game fundamentally work even after all the development issues and delays.
I really enjoyed this tale for a Digimon story. It's pretty unique for the series to pretty much make a anime series where "nothing goes exactly as intended" and you're facing the ramifications for that. It's an interesting feeling to have throughout a playthrough thst something "isn't right here". No anime as long as they still want to aim for a child audience would do what this story did. So the only real criticism I kind of have is even if I somewhat agree with the developers choice to not make it possible to save everyone first time through I can understand that being anti-fun for a lot of people that feel their choices don't matter. Also that I do think it's padded out in some sections. We don't need every little detail but the characters say the same thing they just said a scene ago. I guess while not negative pre say, I also was a bit disappointed by the true path being honestly way to straight forward and kind of bland. With that did I did enjoy see the other characters that didn't make it with their full personalities on display. Also I understand why it it would take a whole lot of variables to account for several different players but I do wish some scenarios played out differently or added a different aspect depending on which affinity you were more inclined too. You pretty much have to wait until chapter nine to get to new content and then you didn't get anything really new until the middle or end if chapter 10.
When it comes to the combat I had fun and it's passable with one unique aspect being able to evolve doing battles. This makes this interesting as each Digimon has their own set of personal skills and I can see the amount if flexable your actions can have in battle. The game can definitely get easy on normal difficulty so the ability change it is appropriated. I actually lost a mon or two at times in battles if I was fully paying a attention but it's still possible to power through. As someone that has played a few tactics games I do think there is an aspect that keeps the system from reaching above average and that's probably because it was said that they actually held back ideas for a different game if the were to revisit this style. Seems they wanted to make a system that was easy to understand for people that haven't played many TRPGs and those more interested in the story. Kind of want to know what those ideas were...I can say that the extra courses that unlock after beating the game once do provided a bit of challenge for those looking for it. They start out pretty simple but start to get pretty crazy around the 20s. One map had two Plutomon's where I was doing pretty well at first, but one of them got a kill and it all went downhill from there because of their personal abilities. Also it showcased how annoying defensive units can be, just die please...I also think the could have give some mons just a little more movement. I get you want them to be different but hell some of them are floating in midair and cannon move more then two to three spaces. Mobility is always broken in these types of games but it's just needed at times here.
If they every do a TRPG again I hope the can improve in certain areas but it was a good first attempt. I honestly don't care if it's accompanied by a visual novel or traditional game models storytelling style I'd like to see them do another one someday. Anyway if you're a Digimon fan of the OG series from Adventure - Tamers I'm sure you have a good time if you go in understanding the type of game it is. Now we wait to hear news on the next Story game and hope Bandai Namco gave the team the funds to make a truly great RPG. Hopefully to put more faith in the IP as a whole. It would be nice if we could get a game every two to three or so going forward.
I’m having a blast playing the game I recently started chapter 3 and I’m having a great time playing it so far. When answering the questions I always put myself in the character shoes and think what I would do if I was in their place and so far my choices are almost an even split between morality and harmony so I don’t know what type of ending I’ll be getting
Heck in playing around and doing every single route? I ended up putting 155 hrs in.
The dislinking fictional characters has always been a fascinating opinion to me.
it honestly makes me a lil angry hearing you dis ryo and shuji, you need to play the true ending , you dont get to see who they actually are as people without it, ryo is actually just the best character in the game his and kunemons bond is really well done, god i hate true route being locked behind NG+ doesnt let people have the choice to actually experience ryo and shuji first time, there such actually good characters and there growth is phenomenal.
lol if you need that before you start having fun its just an bad game
Picked this up for £10 now on sale. Do it. Totally worth the time.
Tbh from what I’ve heard…Digimon Survive is a skip. The presentation is nice, but that’s all it’s got going for it that’s done better than average. If anyone wants a visual novel death game thing, try the Danganronpa collection. Not a monster tamer, but I like it and I think the cast is far more compelling, especially with the first two games
I think if you are a fan of visual novels then absolutely! The story is really good. The gameplay that it does have us is fun enough. And the characters for the most part actually seem like actual people, not artificial. There are faults but the game does not deserve the hate it got at all to me
the "this is not lord of the ring" is like a plus I'm playing Digimon no Lord of the rings (that would be weird).
Pokemon has bad Animations? Look at these xD
Joking, its just a genre I dont enjoy even if story sounds cool.
Thanks for review!
The sticker aesthetics killed my interest, i wanted some shin megami tensei + monster visuals n stuff. This ones just not for me is all :,( TemTem is great though (i get the irony of the visual thing) digimon just has such an opportunity to be more.. severe
Okay. Did you play the game with the voice acting off? What are these pronunciations? 😂
thing is that the game being a visual novel and applying the digimon "theme" is a cheap marketing move by bandai. the story could have been something else regarding teenagers that die in the process.
also quality wise, its so poor when compare to other experienced visual novel producers that it doesnt justify the price. especially on your first run through, your dialog choices hardly matter. overworld navigation is honestly rubbish, very unpolished, just UI layered upon UI
tactics system is mediocre at best. if just the tactics aspect release as a phone game, people would expect it to be free and you would have pay to win elements for bandai to make the money.
sound wise i can take it or leave it.
both visual novel and tactics system have low amount of animation, which leads to think what are you exactly paying for? 80hours of mediocracy?
sure the storyline suck you in as you play. but once you take a break from the game, its hard to get back into it. the only thing was on my mind everytime i get back to this game is that i paid 60+ bucks for it, i better play the the shit out of it
Ed review this game as probably a 1st time visual novel player but as a digimon fan that played a lot of tactics and a bit of visual novel, its extremely disappointing for its price
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing more monster tamer games using this hybrid approach. Or even other kinds of hybrid games. Kind of like My Lovely Daughter and My Lovely Wife, but with more focus on the monster taming side of things.
This game 100% got screwed over by releasing on the same day as Xenoblade 3
Interesting game, but I'm not a fan of the darker story, especially as someone who grew up watching the show on TV.
Doesn't help that I'm tired of media forcing consequences and reality on child heroes. I understand that the situation is dangerous... I'd just rather not see child characters dead or traumatized, thank you very much.
ya know.. when you see "a wrathful review" you think maybe its just a negative or harsh review. not you spoiling an ending.
well I can cross this off I know what happens thanks a bunch.
**Alett** Spoilers Ahead!!! Lmao
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as an huge digimon fan and someone who has no isues with novels I am terrible disapointed with the game I gave up on it somewhere in chapter 2
terrible writen dialogue gameplay is boring the recruiting digimon isnt fun just an annoying painfull chore and a Fing time limit at some points of the game as well where you can only do x amount of actions instead of everything. all main charackters are cringy as well. to me the worst digimon game I ever played and 1 of only 2 digimon games I started but never finished.
realy I consider this game garbage not even worth 10 bucks
I loved the game
@@Yoe617 good for you i did not
After playing the game Digimon Survive is not skip for visual novel fans. The presentation is very good, it done better than games like Danganronpa, Danganronpa 2 and on par with Danganronpa 3. If anyone wants a visual novel with interesting relatable characters that actually act like real life kids and teenager's , many routes with different endings and storys, where your choices effect your digimon evolution, your friends digimon evolution and what route you get. Then digimon survive is for you.
this is just bs I like visual novels and this one is just garbage the charackters are all cringy and I couldnt care less about saving them
@@wowgek7 you are bs, I love visual novels this one is just one the best visual novels games, characters very well written and relatable making me care about saving them all in the game.
@@rafalb692 lol maybe you should look up what oppinion means this isnt one of the best novels out there you could say its 1 of the best you played but calling it 1 of the best is just bs it isnt a fact. also just because you like the game doesnt mean its wel written google translate would have done an simulair if not better job.
glad that you enjoy it but for me an all time digimon fan this game was an disapointment and I cna hardly find any positive point about this game I can honestly say its 1 of the worst novvels I ever played and its by far the worst digimon game I ever played
@@wowgek7 maybe you also should look up what oppinion means before responding, this is one of the best visual novels out there and it not bs it is just a fact. Also just because you like the game doesn't mean it's not well written or badly translate game just because it has few mistakes.
It's fine if you don't like it but calling game pure garbage with no redeeming quality is not criticism it called game being made for you and I can honestly say its 1 of the best visual novelsI ever played and its by far the best digimon game I ever played.
@@rafalb692 no its not one of the bets oout there revieuws are mixxed and peoples oppions are mixxed as well if it was so good at least the majority of people should like it which isnt the case here. you stating it as a fact based on nothing is just a joke.
also me liking the game or not has nothing to do with how its written its badly written and thats 1 reason I dont like it but thats only part of the reason.
and I said I FIND the game garbage so that shows its my oppinion if I said the game was garbage thats pretending its a fact. and for me the game genuily has almost no redeeming qualities. and because its 1 of the best novels you ever played doesnt mean its 1 of the best ones ever made there are most likely tons you would love just as much if not more. you keep trying to pretend your oppinions are facts but thats not how it works.
and tbf I doubt you played a lot of digimon games if this is 1 of the bets ones you ever played. asside from rumble arena 2 and 3 the racing game and next order I played every english released digimon game. and I enjoyed all of them more then this one
and since the whole purpose of playing games is having fun those games succeeded where this game failed for me because I didnt have a good time with it