PATH of EXILE 3.6: Crafting & Synthesized Items - ZiggyDiscusses
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Another discussion video! This time on crafting in Path of Exile and how Fractured & Synthesized items fit into in the coming 3.6 expansion.
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Hope you guys enjoy another ramble session! What are your thoughts on crafting and Synthesis?
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they should buff essences i think maybe just increase spawn rates
Honestly it would be better for slower damage over time for the assassin's poison stack crit =/
@@Lormenkal64 Honestly most of the essences could be straight up removed or rolled into the fossil system. The vast majority have very little use.
@DieEnteable TRUE any TRUERS in CHat??
PLEASE make more rambling videos! But seriously, I love the discussion videos you produce - and I believe most of the community would agree with this!! There is a sore lack of intelligent discussion videos in the PoE community and I believe you need to take charge of this, Ziggy.
GoodGuyGaming3 has some good intelligent discussion videos about various mechanics and other aspects of the game. Check out his RUclips channel.
I enjoy the new discussion style format. ZiggyD has a tremendous knowledge of the game and is doing the community a great service by sharing that knowledge.
I am really thankful for all the video content you put out. Your rambling discussions are especially exciting. I have only been playing POE for a few months, and guys like you make it bearable. POE is by far the most complex AARPG I have ever played. I came over from playing both D3 and Grim Dawn. The amount of information needed to play this game is pretty immense. I am getting to know the game playing in standard league, and there is just so much to learn and it keeps growing with each new league. Crafting is an especially daunting thing to learn as there is no one mechanic...recipes are spread out throughout multiple league mechanics...bestiary crafting, master crafting, delve crafting....its pretty confusing for the new player. So I appreciate your insight into the new crafting mechanics coming up in the next league. Maybe an "Idiot's Guide to Crafting" covering all that for newbs?
Thanks for the kind words! I'd definitely like to do more guides and coverage that help more people get into crafting.
I think that turning enchantments into a separate implicit is one of the most underappreciated features of 3.6 so far
Yeah it really lets two toned boots etc. shine
agreed!
Mostly because the way you getting enchant is the real problem.
Seems almost mandatory with the new implicit overhaul next league brings. Together with natural implicit bases and vaal orb implicits it will really increase diversity in the helmet and boots slot. Glove enchants are nice but often mediocre/low impact, so nothing will really change there I think since curse corruptions are already sought after.
I still remember when enchants first came out and I threw one on some sick Silk Gloves. I was so sad, lol.
Powercreep is just an inevitability and I think GGG is handling it just fine, by making it difficult to reach the tippy top of gear. It's already been shown countless times that the game can be beaten on budget items with mediocre gear, so the power creep is less of an issue. I'd rather people worry about one shot mechanics and other problems the game faces.
Do you think CS:GO developers thought "Powercreep is just an inevitability" when they introduced the revolver?
Id think so.
the only problem with crafting is 90% of the people will never craft more than basic single crafting bench mods, because exalts cost 180c/each and 180c is probably total planned budget they will go for, losing an ex trying to randomly craft is too punishing, because the whole crafting system is still complicated af to do it properly if you're not playing for years
Exactly what I struggle with every season. Only streamers and people without real jobs that play for 8+ hours a day can ever have enough currency to just throw away to RNG.
@@joshuaholden4303 I have played 3 league, but still prefer to save exalts to buy the item I want instead of crafting , as losing a few exalts is so painful for me.
That's the whole point. People that failed at life need these kind of games to feel accomplished, otherwise that feeling of irrelevance takes over.
As for a casual gamer, we play much less, obviously, but we also have different goals in a game, so expensive crafting and items are ok.
Plus we can just buy ingame currency to get items and not spend weeks grinding that which can be bought with 50$.
It's fine :)
@@zerk6656 buying in-game currency is not allowed nor recommended.
@@zerk6656 lmao at being so bad at a game that you have to insult people who aren't.
Excited for 3.6! Going for Divine Ire build
"You guys seemed to like the last discussion video I did, and I love rambling, so lets do another one."
*moves to like video
Nobody can do a well composed video speech like you Ziggy
the information you give us is always clear and detailed enough. In addition, you have sources that are very reliable. so, thank you very much and keep us informed. on the other hand, I am thinking of one thing: as crafting is constantly evolving, this league will surely become core. I can't imagine that this system will disappear if it works well. but, let's start by playing it and we will see in 13 weeks with the announcement of league 3.7. Good "Synthesis League" to all the players.
Hey ZiggyD!!! I've been watching your youtube content for a long time and i just want to let you know that your commitment to the poe community is very appreciated. Keep up the good work my man!!!!!!
Hello! I'm Abyssal Jewel and this is my friend Hale Negator. Nice Synthesised meme you have there.
The two frenzy charges shield is also good for Ahn’s Might - you’re permanently at minimum and maximum frenzy charges.
zigs you're a national treasure
I played poe since essence and I've never really gotten too much into crafting (not endgame at least) up until this league, it's gotten so much more fun and I spend hours upon hours to craft es gear and trying to get a gg scepter for vortex, I was basically playing the game in order to have currency to craft because that was the true fun for me, i love how they're expanding the crafting system even more
This is going to be awesome for master crafting, can't wait to see all of the insane new mods
I think the new changes gonna affect more the process of getting good gear for your build to start with, making easier to gear up rather than affecting what would be best in slot which is something that interest me greatly
You are so good on making this kind of videos . :)
Good stuff, thanks Z !
Love your video Ziggy! keep it coming!
I really like how the fractured items can make using essences not feel like just pissing money away. I have spent like 20ex on them this league and got NOTHING. And I was looking for 3 t1-2 mods (one of which was guarunteed). -_-
One important thing is that for most non-dot builds abyss jewels are better in almost every way. So regular jewels with an extra special mod is now an actual choice for some builds, because we can assume that abyss jewels can't be fractured or synthesized.
Last league I followed along with your cold dot build and as I've been hearing about the awesome new chaos damage skills, I looked over the tree for that build and went "..wait, this goes by all the damage over time, and chaos damage nodes..." so yeah, playing a triple curse Bane + Soulrend ES Occultist this league heh
Can't wait to see what stuff I can craft for that
I love crafting-so the more the better!
Fractured mods will make fossil crafting so much better. Can now use defense/no life and life/no defense when you want both, if one is already locked.
Maybe in the future there will be a set of divination cards that will give you a shaper/elder+synthesis crafting bases for the completely insane items
ZiggyD thanks for your insightfull new league update videos. Without you, many players would go blind into the new leagues 👌
Do we know if you can double corrupt Fragmented items to reroll them into fragmented shaper/elder items?
The frenzy charge shield could make a potentially very strong necromantic aegis option.
I like the crafting things but I also think we need more things to find instead of craft.
There are quite some new bosses all with theyr own uniques. Lets see.
You are going to have to find the appropriate fractured items to synthesize to good item bases to be crafted and then there's the new uniques, and div cards,oh and all the different types of memory fragments to unlock to be able to run.
Interesting and easy to understand. I like this.
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I really like that there is this emphasis on making ALTERNATIVE sources of best items. I don't want there to be massive leaps in how powerful the top end of items are, and this doesn't seem to be doing that. Shaper and Elder items still have their function (and have gain some of the things that were craftable in Betrayal), but these synthesised items seem to be aiming at empowering different mods/builds, and are almost certainly not stackable with Shaper/Elder to make UBER items.
In my mind there can be a lot gained from looking at the weakest/least diverse areas of the game (be they skills or archetypes, or whatever) and trying to provide options to them that don't also overly increase the power level of the top tier (of whatever you're looking at). Increasing defensive OPTIONS is very good, as long as they aren't combined into an easily achievable immune character.
I'm not against there being characters which have to apply self debuffs, and constantly time both flasks and skill usage in order to obtain temporary immunity from all sources of damage. These builds are amazingly fun to theory-craft and to try to fund. My point where i'd draw the line would be when these builds are also able to solo all content due to having a very powerful OFFENCE as well as this "plate-spinning" defence becoming permanent.
Good thing is Chaos orbs are still relevant thanks to Zana map mods, its not like the currency has grown completely obsolete.
Not sure on the list of available synthesized implicits, but definitely in most cases Elder/Shaper items are better. 5-6-7 link in gloves/helmet is way better than some little extra life or the max res, which BTW you can get on those bases. The boots with onslaught though are worth crafting IMO.
Keep up the good work Ziggy!
Minimum Frenzy Charges -- A super powerful Shield for Summoners.
Thanks for the videos. They are very helpful.
faster poisons only works propperly with assassin where u can get like 50 seconds poisons whilenstill killing in like 10-15secs (end game bosses) for thosr its roughly 15%more damage
Rrrrip Ziggy's exalts for another smashing good rare craft.
I’m more excited for the spell rework. I want to use some juicy spells.
I come over to see what's up in PoE every now and then. After four minutes I'm dowlnoading it again and excited to rebuild my lvl ~90 essence drain witch now that I can actually power her up again without grinding for some 20ex uniques.
Nice review ZiggyD, keep going for more ;)
Weapon implicits could be defensive to allow them to be powerful without outcompeting other weapons. They could also be niche, like 100% of lightning damage converted to fire or 50% increased effect of Rage.
Yay, another crafting league ,woohoo ;_;
Frenzy charge Shield will work for minions, with necromantic aegis?
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That fist on a poison molten strike assassin would actually be nice. You have plenty damage, but it just takes so long for damage to start scaling up.
Ohh and not to mention the GPU on fire due to serious backloaded damage it currently has.
The LoH as you mention is a big loss though
Is that a new mtx for Freezing Pulse in the beginning or have I just not played the skill in a long time? It looks like the Whirlwind Freezing Pulse from the Labyrinth monsters
I like crafting as a concept, but currently there seems to be little mid-tier crafting. Either you're doing very simple cheap stuff or you're spending many exalts trying to get those perfect rolls. For me personally the fact that I need to spend ages farming currency to then spend in a few minutes TRYING to get an item, while making no character progression at all is a real turn-off. Usually by the time I get enough currency to do anything cool I'll be bored of the character or even the league.
Crafting Fractured items should be good for that, while Synthesized gear is more for endgame crafting.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn I hope so. My worry is that it'll still be better/cheaper to just buy the item you need through trade. Though maybe early in the league this won't be true.
then spend less exalts to get less than perfect rolls and you get mid-tier gear
not exactly sure how you can say this when multimodding is so powerful
@@madthundercat The problem with that is that the base cost to do that kind of crafting is usually so high that it's already beyond mid-tier or can't compete with other sources of mid-tier gear.
Looking foward to make a build with the new holy spells !!
Can that belt with increased life recovery rate be used with leeching ES? I mean it is life recovery but if we use life leech is applied to ES and we have vaal pact would it be useful there?
I would have crafted a lot more last league as well if I was gifted some currency too. That said, I am hoping to do a bit of crafting this league.
Just got back into the game ... again. I finally beat act 10 and able to check out end game SSF. I know I'm bad but I still love this game. Ditched hardcore this time around because I a scrub. Still see completing maps, getting to level 90+ ECT. Are all challenge enough. Nice video.. I followed most of it🤔
I'm hesitantly excited for the fractured gear. I've always felt let down by PoE's gear systems because they've always felt too random to be enjoyable. (because GGG always tries to balance around trading, but I'll get to that.) One of the big problems with finding and crafting your own gear is that because of how most currency rolls gear, unless you're rolling in exalts, there's no real value in finding a piece that's almost good enough. You can't cheaply save those good mods to craft the remaining stuff you need, so finding a piece with some but not all of the properties you need is as bad as finding random garbage. If done right, the fractured mods have the capability to fix this problem: If I find a piece that has a few mods that I already need saved on them, I can now feel ok with saving that to craft more stuff onto it relatively cheaply with chaos orbs, so it's a motivation to pick up specific pieces of gear over just generally saving up currency to trade with.
That said, my hesitation comes from the trade balancing problem I mentioned before: So many of PoE's cool in game systems are ruined by GGG's balancing of them to keep trading prices stable. Like you said, this system really only makes crafting easier if you can get 2-3 good mods fixed. I wouldn't be surprised if GGG made them drop so infrequently or perhaps made multiple fixed mods so rare than you can basically never expect to find good pieces like this. And suddenly the system is back to being pointless because if it's that rare to find something work keeping for personal crafting, I guess it's back to being forced into trading, thus skipping over all of the cool new systems... sigh...
So yeah, I always find the new stuff they add theoretically cool and I always hope a little that they'll lighten up on their obsession with trading and balance the system to be used by just playing the game, but then I always end up disappointed. But hey, every expansion is a new opportunity for them to not be stubborn.
@ziggyD Gaming Funny thing is GGG has confirmed via videos that the new memory zones can drop shaper/elder items via the global bonus's. So it could be possible, assuming the two can stack, which is the real question, and a answer even GGG lacks atm.
That would be the dream, but from a practical standpoint synthesis items have their own icon in the same spot shaper/elder items do, and shaper/elder items were not compatible with betrayal crafting benches last league.
Hey, I'd like to play the game again after not playing for a REALLY long time, what class and build are considered super cheap and easy to begin with ?
6:38 For the start of what you came here for.
Would be a nice way to buff the use of essences, if they could be put into resonators, or the synthesizer. EDIT: Also, that minimum charges mod could be real nice for builds that use affects at max charges.
have you made a league starter for synthesis? or decided what to play in this league? 😀
As an idiot who never manages to craft anything worth the base item its printed on, this is exciting as crafting looks to loom closer and closer to being within my reach, at least more than it is now.
I never have the time to get too much into crafting each league, I'm still trying to kill Shaper. It's cool that they continue to change things though.
You forgot about comparing Life Recovery Rate to an abyssal socket belt, would be competitive in SC leagues for the damage that slot can offer.
Thanks for the vid Ziggy. Crafting is still kindof a black box to me, so having a little bit of a history of it helped flesh out some things for me.
im over here tryin to learn to craft my own gear and they keep adding more to learn... not gonna complain tho that just extends the games playability.
Im pretty sure that weapon swapping for the Frenzy shield wont work, and that 2 charges just disappear when swapping back. You're basically not getting 2 Charges, you just get treatet as having 2.
I've always liked that POE have more than 1 way of getting great items.
So unlike mastercrafted mods, fractured items Can have t1 affixes (flaring u mentioned)?
Does mods on Syntherized items (3 to 1) takes suffix/affix slots?
Anyone else worried that fractured items are going to fill up stash tabs REAL quick waiting for the right ones to put together, especially considering it will be a while before the community figures out how the system works...
I've always hated crafting. But guess I'll be trying it again this league. Feels like I'm wasting currency when I start too early (and get screwed if bad rng), or too late when I can already kill shaper or uber elder and don't need a 1% boost. Some of the best items enable a new char, but I'm usually too lazy to level another one.
Just Imagine Boots with Onselought implicit, ele Pen ennchant, Abyss Soket and Hybrid/Life, 35 Ms. O.o That will be my Goal for the League :) I cannot wait to get my Hands in those Items
less purity of fire mana reserved, max fire ress, life recovery rate, endurance charge on hit and spell dmg leech on a jewel?
Looks like RF is back on the menu boys!!!
It was never off the menu
its always was here lol, but clearspead and dmg are terrible compare to other builds
how is spell dmg leech on jewel associate with RF? :)
@@Med1umentor rf is a degen. You can leech only with hits dude
@@observerspotter1138 exactly my point, dude! Read my comment again, it's a question about "why leech was even mentioned, if he was talking about RF?"
I planned on taking a break this league (I've burnt myself out the last couple of leagues and ducked out of Betrayel) but after seeing those Onslaught boots and all of the caster changes it looks like I have no choice but to come back, lol. Crafting is going to be insane this league and I've yet to make a chaos caster so this league should be a lot of fun. I was initially worried about how many shit Synthesis drops we'd get but turning 3 into something that can potentially be god-like sounds like a lot of fun.
Wait, did you have an eternal orb on betrayal? They're back?
Assuming the Implicit for weapons aren't too OP Wands for wanders would probably be the best right?
I would say look to put implicits on items that normally don't have them first. (Helms, boots, body armor, quiver, jewels,etc) Another mod per item I think would be more overall impactful than just changing the implicit you already have that is useful for your build.
@@robertglade5799 Wanders are attack wand users the % spell dmg from the wand is useless (for them)
How do the broken mods work with essences and fossils? Can you use them on them? If yes, if you have broken life mod, and you use essence of greed?
You should be able to craft on them almost however you like chance/scour since they are already rares. You'll probably have to use chaotic resonators and higher tier essences so it can reroll. And I imagine mods will just occupy a slot so if it has life essence of greed either wouldnt work or would just reroll it but the life wouldnt be applied.
I look forward to trying out the +2 Min Frenzy Charges on a weapon swap with Necromantic Aegis, to give all my minions 2 Charges for free. Which frees up my main shield for something better than Victario's Charity.
i really enjoy the rambly vids
18:41 Fractured Logo! Looks great!
I love the aspect of crafting your “endgame“ gear. I think its cheesy to farm like sydicate for hours to make currency and then just buy the best item available.
The gambling aspect/ "the chance to get lucky" is what makes this game rewarding.
How to get perfect syntetized today?
....I wonder if you can get mana reservation reduction for Blasphemy
Can the fixed mods be annuled?
7:04 well there goes my plan to make a sick kaoms heart......
what will happen if chance synthesised item with op implicit into unique item?
will your implicit disappear?
At about 7 minutes in: 'you cannot chance synthesized items'
i never find enough of the good orbs like exalted and annulment to do any crafting in this game, so all of these items will be wasted on me.
i always just buy the items i need directly with my chaos orbs to take the randomenss factor out
Two endurance charges permanent ist quite the defence boost If your build normaly doesn't use them
Drop good synt item, scorch it, go to tinys trial in syndicate, spam it and hope you get lucky, finish it up via crafting. Sounds like the cheapest option that will also be the most entertaining to me.
Getting a tinys trial is gonna take a lot longer in 3.6 and you cant really farm it tho?
Yay Rambles!
4:30 to skip the preamble.
sry for bad english. If this bother you stop right here.
I played the game for 1000 hours few years ago. And now I am a completly noob at the game (yes I am trying to start again) and crafting now is really very scary for beginers... The game fails in show what you can or can't do with crafting. They need or clean the presentation a little more of crafting, or at least do some kind of tutorial in game to help with that. Don't take me wrong ZiggyD do really cool videos to try to help with that problem but is pretty fast outdated by the game every so often... What makes me actually dislike a lot to try crafting. Maybe it's me I don't know, but I actually never really enjoyed crafting leagues. In my opinion this kind of give a shadow on the game drops, that are 99.9% trash even with loot filter (what for me is the biggest problem with this game that is not technicalities as server issues). Of course everyting I said is just my humble opinion and feel free to think diferent. I just wanted to add on this conversation. Please be respectful and if you want comment try to be constructive. Have a nice day :)
I agree. I wish there were simple but comprehensive guides out there for crafting. I skipped Bestiary league so don't know how to craft using beasts. During Betrayal league I 'caught' heaps of beasts but due to having no confidence in what I would have been doing (and not finding a guide worth the name) the league ended with me not using any of them.
exactly, the game is slowly getting out of touch with casual players, and that is not a good thing.
The key problem with crafting in PoE in trade leagues is that there's a gear/progress line below which it's almost certainly better to just buy an item than it is to try and craft one, and that line is well above where the vastly overwhelming majority of players ever sit. The market sees so many more orders of magnitude more items than a single player ever sees that this will almost certainly always be true except for very high value crafted items, but where an item costs 20 exalts to buy or an average of 18 exalts to craft (say) then it doesn't change the fact for most: it's like asking if it's easier jump over a 20m gap or an 18m gap: when you can only jump 3m it doesn't make any difference. Crafting for me in the game has universally been disappointing and while synthesised mods will make these things available to me, it is highly unlikely that it will make crafting better.
Fractured items will almost certainly provide a better crafting experience for Solo Self Found - which is pretty much the game mode that exists to deal with the issue you cite.
Cant watch the full thing atm, but with fractured mechanics - if you had a currency item that would allow you to re-roll or manipulate aspects of the item, that would give extremely obvious incentive to using them.
Ie An item or recipe that re-rolls the numbers on the current locked fractured mods... an item or recipe that re-rolls which mods get selected as fractured [with or without re-rolling the item, just presenting idea]
tfw youve been one of the first 1k subs and still follow PogU
amazed by the game since domination league. never been let down. ziggy taught me what currency items are
Looks cool but i'm more interested in the gameplay itself here and rewards from the new zones.
The power creep is good for me, and I even play a ton. The Streamer-Tax is for Realz
The charge shield is bonkers with necro aegis
If you're reading this, please like the video. Gongratz ZiggyD. As always, great job, nice free content.
The hype is real!! >D
imho next league will bring its fair share of powercreep. I mean having free implicits with same overall content is gamebreaking in itself. No need to go over the fancy league implicits(and yes some of the leaked ones are extremly strong). Free Two toned boots res + glove enchant is already kind of huge for standard players. Summoners or build using minions nodes will have that free 40% dmg from bone helmet too.
Also beeing able to drop items with set in stone affixes is very strong and will lead to people having very easily baseline gear for high yellows to red map.