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I loved him so much in that part! He even figured out the plan to escape the city. Also he seemed like a real good friend to Corin (of course it was Shasta but yknow)
@@Gyeru_Clan3000 yeah I think he was at that point a companion and courtier to the kings and queens, as well as an advisor considering he was the first one to tell the first of them Lucy about the world of Narnia.
I never knew (never really thought about it tbh) that CS Lewis was in his 40s when he wrote the chronicles of Narnia. As a writer who's had writer's block for about 7 years now, this gives me some hope that maybe one day I'll be re-inspired by one of my old ideas
Write every day that's what John Maxwell says. A little a lot doesn't matter every day. After 10 years of writing every day, I'm getting traction and it's not the last six months of work it's the last ten years while no one was reading my stuff. Dig deep my friend your story needs to be heard.
And here I was feeling too old knowing it's taken me until the age of 27 to finish my first draft, lol. Here's hoping the next one will come a lot sooner.
Hey Bro, I'm 27 working on my book series for the past 7 years. It takes time. Don't worry about it, you'll do great. Just remember that it's not going to be good if you force it. I've had a block for about a year now and I've used the time to flesh out my Lore and legendarium a bit more.
Tumnus' debut in The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe makes me think of the Huntsman from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. He was employed by the Evil Queen to kill Snow White and bring back her heart as proof that he had done the deed. But he couldn't bring himself to murder an innocent maiden. So he told Snow White of the Queen's plans and helped her escape. Later he cut out the heart of a pig to fool the queen into believing he had done the job. He might have gotten away with it, had the queen not asked the magic mirror about Snow White's whereabouts.
Lucy and Mr. Tumnus meeting again is definitely one of my top-ten Narnia moments because of the pure JOY the both felt at meeting what was probably their first and truest friend after a parting when neither could say goodbye. It really was the perfect way to end the series.
Your narration is top-notch. I can literally feel the chills as you spoke about Tumnus' courage, and how he was willing to risk his life. This channel is so underrated. May the world hear and see more of your work, my friend.
I have just realised that Lucy's name is derived from the Latin for "light" (lux or lucis), so it is fitting that when Lucy (light) meets Tumnus (change in season and plant growth), it heralds the end of winter. Given that CSL was an expert in allegory (and the uses of allegorical names) and in Latin, this is possibly no accident. Well played, Dr Lewis, well played!
I had considered the meaning of her name before, and even plan on doing an episode about the significance of names in Narnia, but had never considered Lucy's name in this particular application. Thanks for sharing!
Firstly, thank you, I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this series, it’s reawaken my interest into Narnia. I look forward to seeing what you cover next. And thanks for clarifying the differences between fauns and satyrs. Keep up the good work.
He even says his father fought and died in the wars if the beginnings and that he his self had been in the last battle before the freeze took over. His bow is leaning against the wall with his umbrellas
You’ve gotten quite a boost in subs since the last time You posted and it’s well deserved. You’re narration is impeccable and I’m so glad that someone is making Narnia content!
I'm not sure I've realized before how long lived Fawns must be, if he seems like a young man in LWW and remembers the time before the Witch 100 years ago, they could maybe live 200-300 years! So there could be more or less ten generations of Fawn since the dawn of Narnia. Ergo, Tumnus should have had memories of Man's exsistance, if not in Narnia (I'm not sure when Frank's line ended) then at least in nearby Archenland - so far as I know, it's pretty unclear what Jadis did to keep them away, maybe they were in Exile in Calormen or the Islands? I'm guessing Lewis hadn't thought about so much detail with his first book (much to Tolkien's chagrin, Jack was more a seat of his pants type of writer!), but putting the pieces together, I'd guess the "Is Man a Myth" is more of a curio from who knows where to Tumnus, rather then serious Academia - it could even be propaganda made by Jadis's decree! I don't necessarily learn a lot from this series, but I did need the refresher regarding Fawns and Saytrs, and I never heard of Vertumnus. What's more, you do great retellings of beloved stories, and it's also a platform for some fantastic artwork would likely have never encountered. Good job!
Thank you so much for your engagement in this community. While I definitely don't expect seasoned Narnia fans to learn much, I do hope that there's always something that gives them a new perspective on these old familiar stories. I'm definitely grateful that knowledgeable fans like yourself are able to provide extra commentary. Regarding Tumnus's age, I've also seen arguments that his knowledge of the old Narnia must have been passed down from his father and others before him, because within less than 15 years he is described as having become a middle-aged faun. Not sure which idea I like better: that he's old enough to remember the Narnia of old, or that he's too young to have actually met an actual man before.
@@IntotheWardrobe Hm, good point, I might have assumed a little bit there. I think it's my memories of how Jeffrey Perry played him in the BBC series (even though he's past middle aged) made it sound like he experienced all that personally, but the book itself is doesn't covey his dialogue directly. It could be only his grandparents experienced Christmas and other seasons, which can make it much easier for him to not only accept the status quo, but ally with it. And regardless if they have good historical records about men, the whole mythology aspect could just be about men still being alive today. Yeah, I think that actually makes more sense - makes it a bit like Prince Caspian choosing to believe in the old tales - thanks!
Knowing the little bit that I know about C.S. Lewis's life its likly he took that iconic image of the faun, and introduced himself through it in the story, since Thomnas starting out as a spy for the white witch but falling over to Aslan's side when the time to choose came is a pretty on the nose allegory to Lewis's own start in life of atheism to converting to christianity when it came time to choose. Mabey this should be obvious and not need stating. But a neat observation none the less.
I never considered that, but it make sense. Up until very recently, I thought Digory Kirk was C.S. Lewis writing himself into the story but I saw a clip of him talking to J.R.R. Tolkien where he reveals that Digory Kirk is Tolkien.
When I was a new Christian, I was so clueless about the allegories and comparisons to Jesus and the passion week. But now, I find it so awesome. Especially when after Aslan is resurrected, he breathes on the creatures. A reminder that true life comes only from Jesus Christ.
Dude, you are awesome. My mom used these books to help teach me to read. They are still my favorite books. I'm running a D&D game that is set in Narnia during the golden age and my players are about to meet Tumnus, these character explanations are fantastic.
Well done. I like how you went a bit more in depth with this one; going in to the real world inspirations of fauns and Lewis's idea with them (actually never heard that before, very interesting). Hope you can do this with some of the other creatures, characters, and such moving forward. You really seem to be honing and developing your craft here, and I can't wait to see what it looks like when it's fully refined. I'm not saying it's bad now, I'm saying it's getting better than it already is.
My son (he's 8y.o.) utterly adores Mr. Tumnus, and will often come into the living room, from having been playing in his bedroom, to announce to me that he's just been to Mr. Tumnus’ house/cave, in *Narnia,* for tea & toast, before they both then visited Mr & Mrs Beaver for sardines and cake! 😄🥰❤️
The reason narnia seems true is because it is, it's not true in the sense that you or I are real with flesh and blood, but in the sense that they are connect to and point to a world, like the narrator says, is more real than our own. Perhapse a person more real than us would be a better phrase, the narnia stories point to jesus christ and his saving work on our behalf and to his kingdom. So like in the last battle we see a world getting larger and richer the more we push into it, that's what the kingdom of heaven is. Like a seed containing all the information for a tree, we just have to step closer and look deeper to see that the world beyond our is much more than ours, and we will spend forever pushing deeper in of our faith is in jesus christ. So it is true. The picture of Aslan's country is an accurate picture. I dont think narnia was ever a place we could go to, but it points us to that more real kingdom we're pressing towards. Towards a very real Aslan's country that's more real than our own. Lewis even said that Aslan's country was like narnia in the respect that everything good about narnia was found perfect and better in Aslan's country and everything lovely about Narnia is lovely because it's an echoe of the better country.
@@OSleeperTactical You're absolutely right, and I'm looking forward to that wonderful future. But I really think that 'the shadowlands' are real too. In plural form. Or at least, there is no evidence in this whole universe that there aren't more worlds than this one, and I would love the fact that there wóúld be other universes. Like Puddleglum said in The Silver Chair; "Suppose we have only dreamed, or made up, all those things. Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones." So I don't know if other worlds exist. But I would love it. And that's why I choose to believe in it ✨ God Bless!
I personally highly doubt that it actually exists. That said, it's completely possible that it's some form of alternate reality. If that's true, then maybe Aslan actually is Jesus, just in a form that suited the other reality more. Once again, I personally doubt all this, but that's the only way I could see it working.
He also had to be very old. He talks about how he had danced in the woods before the witch was queen. We know that her rule was 100 years. If he was middle aged in the golden age he had to live around another 100 years. And been around when the Telmarines invaded. Was he killed in thw invasion or go into hiding?
I just discovered your channel today, thanks to a RUclips suggestion. I'm both loving and hating it. Loving it because the videos I've watched are really engaging and fascinating. They've added a whole new depth of significance to these stories that deepen my appreciation. Hating because now I feel compelled to watch them all as quickly as possible. There goes my productivity! Really, thanks for the channel and your content.
Love the channel man! You have reignited my love for Narnia. Brings back the memories of reading listening watching and practically living in the wonderful magical world of Narnia. Oh the nostalgia. Thank you
So glad you mentioned about satyrs originally being distinct! A rare observation! - they did get "retconned" to be virtually indistinguishable from fauns by later romans though, who were fanboys of greek culture - which is why this is less obvious today
Cool channel, C.S.LEWIS is one of my favorite authors. I wish books like Out of the Silent Planet, Paralandra, That Hideous Strength,and The Great Divorce were more talked about but I do love Narnia. Tumnis and his story are extremely relevant today more than ever. For Narnia And The North 🔥🙏🕊🙏🔥
Thanks again for a fantastic video. You always give give info and give in depth research into and makes me feel like Narnia is alive somewhere. I can’t wait to see who or where is next. Well done again 😃
That conclusion was masterful. What a way to end a story. I have watched like 10 videos today. These are so good. I’ve been re-listening to the drama series and these videos are such a great paring to the stories themselves.
I love this channel keep it up, in a way Tumnus was the messenger and Herald of the world of of Narnia to come to CS Lewis, as he was to Lucy when she was first introduced to that world.
That's interesting. I've thought of Puddleglum more like that especially considering how dreary his letters to the churches get after a joyful start and the fact that he too faces a serpent. He is also rather insistent that he is a Marshwiggle in front of a ruler much like Paul is about being a Roman. However Tumnus is a bit like Peter once he turns around especially when you consider that Peter means stone and Tumnus is turned into a stone statue only to be brought back to life by the breath of Aslan. Peter and the other disciples had the breath of Christ put into them before he ascended and the Holy Spirit came onto him at the day of Pentecost. The Hebrew word for Holy Spirit is Ruach Hakodesh, more accurately translated as breath/wind holy. Once that happens Peter starts doing what he should more closely. Peter renounced Christ during his trial and Tumnus had his moment at the beginning with planning to kidnap Lucy. One of the foods he offers Lucy was sardines and Peter was a fisherman. I suppose we can never be certain.
I (personally) think how Tumnus have changed side from working for The White Witch to being loyal to Aslan makes him even more noble. In his days Aslan was nowhere to be found, his father died in a war that he didn't win, The White Witch basically ruled Narnia and there was pain, fear, and suffering everywhere. What choice does he have? And can you blame him for losing faith? I can't blame people who chose survival over goodness in their hearts. He almost did what most creatures in Narnia at that time would do which is turn Lucy in. But the moment he has to choose, he sees the light through Lucy and put his faith in Aslan who I assume he never sees in his lifetime or ever feels his warm spring. Those who always have faith are no doubts strong in their hearts. But those who choose to turn back from the wrong side, despite everything they've faced are the bravest of all.
Hey, do you want to create video about Tash in the future? I really enjoyed ones about Jadis and Green Lady, and Tash is the 3rd of, let's call them, supernatural villains
Thank you so much, I really loved all of your videos, especially the one on the Lady of the Green Kirtle! Could you please make a video about Coriakin?
Tumnis' journey shows that courage is not limited to those with strength of arms. I think Tumnis made the choice because of who Lucy was and how kind she was. How different Tumnis' life might have been if Edmond had been the first human he met
I think you're over emphasizing Tumnus as being part of the "dark side". Sure, he was acting under instruction from the white witch, but this wasn't so much like he was "employed" by her as you cleverly hint at while being careful not to actually say it. He wasn't actively working as an informant. This was more a blanket threat to ALL Narnians given by Jadis - if anyone ever finds a human they should bring them to her or they would be killed. This was just a general Narnian law that Tumnus and everyone else knew of. A law which he followed because he feared for his life and then very quickly changed his mind about upon having to act upon it for the first time. Let's not make out that he came from a dark villainous backstory and went through a complex redemption.
I know Narnia is vey biblical but the ending of this show is wayyyy too religious sounding. I love the story of Narnia, but the ideology behind it and behind the message of this video is very strange. Should we not be our best selves for ourselves? Goodness should happen with out the intervention of a higher power, otherwise its out of kissing butt or fear. Which means it isn't really being good at your core.
Hello, I'm Heather, a new subscriber from Newcastle Upon Tyne here in England. Here's a theory video idea be it a single video or series: How did the events of the Narnia stories effect the other nations of the Narnian world? What was going on in the other countries during the same time, and did the events of the Narnian stories effect other countries? Fore example, what was going on in Archenland or Telmar during the days of jadis's reign? Or else what was going on in Kalormen during the Voyage of the Dawn Treader? Also just a little tip for you about pronunciation for Archenland's name: Archenland is pronounced arkenland, the Ch makes a K sound. It's not pronounced like arch it's pronounced like ark.
I have the same idea with Eustace in the voyage of the Dawn Treader. He became a dragon, but Aslan set him free from the dragon skin. He got out his old skin and got a new skin (with normal clothes) from Aslan. This comes from Ephesians 4: 20-24
Sometimes I see alot of biblical stories in the narnia books .. Tumnus sometimes represented to me...that he was the converted St Paul. He persecuted Christians until he met jesus walking on a road one day and it changed his whole life and his beliefs from then on. In Narnia when he met Lucy , this was a the change that moved him from the side of the witch to the side of Aslan. It just a thought.. The depth of christianity and religion is huge in these books. Just like Trumpkin was the doubting Thomas with regards jesus coming back to life.. it was the same theme that he didnt believe that Aslan existed until he saw him face to face.. and he breathed on him...
I love this channel keep it up, in a way Tumnus was the messenger and herald of the world of of Narnia to come to CS Lewis, as he was to Lucy when she was first introduced to that world.
This was a fantastic look at who Mr. Tumnus is and I learned a lot about him! He’s my favorite character and now I’m even more excited to finally read The Chronicles of Narnia!
Tumnus was in the employ of the white witch, having by now resigned himself to a life without Aslan without the hope of being free again. However, when he meets Lucy Pevensie, he won't be able to hand her over to Jadis the false queen of Narnia because he knows it's wrong. In fact, when she tells the little girl about it, she receives understanding and forgiveness from the latter. That's why it then turns into a faithful ally of the forces of good, and becomes very wise over the years. Until he meets in the real Narnia Lucy, and all the other main protagonists of the Saga. Where they will live happily ever after. See you soon. 😊
Hey Mr. Wardrobe, I just did discover your channel and I am so in love from the beginning. Funny thing is, I for some weeks I am reading the series and your vids are souch a lovely bonus. Keep it up 👍🏻
In Edith Nesbit's The Enchanted Castle : ' ' I'll not go yet ,' he told himself ; ' it's too early. And perhaps I shall never be here again. I suppose it is the night that makes everything look so different.' Something white moved under a weeping willow ; white hands parted the long , rustling leaves. A white figure came out , a creature with horns and goats' legs and the head and arms of a boy [ Faun ].' This imprinted itself on CS Lewis's young imagination to be regurgitated decades later ... In CS Lewis Narnia studies never forget the influence of the children's stories of Edith Nesbit ( 1958 - 1924 ).
Tumnus is dualistic just as people are. The Narnia series is a children's allegory of Christ's redemption. If you esteem Aslan's character, you may be surprised to find it is based on Christ's character. C.S. Lewis was a serious scholar of religion & the author of very significant & highly regarded faith texts. As Aslan went to the stone Table for Edmond, so too Christ went to the cross for all who would believe on Him.
I must humbly disagree with your definition of a Satyr. Ancient Greek art depicted Satyrs as men with horse’s ears and tail; far more common descriptions of Satyrs are from Ancient Roman mythology, as men with goat’s ears, legs, tails, and horns. According to some ancient and contemporary interpretations, Fauns have somewhat straighter legs and longer tails and are much less wild, being given to less debauchery and can be a bit more timid and naive. With stronger legs, more abundant hair and longer horns, Satyrs are given to wild though sometimes wiser natures, and are a more lustful creature. There are some depictions that show very little physical difference between the two.
I think in reality, Mr Tumnus didn’t really understand what it would mean to be in the service of the witch. No doubt he was in turmoil as many were as to who their royalties really lied. As the white witch had indeed been in power for over 100 years. and many Narnian’s had never known any other ruler (and still nevertheless, hating her). and only heard of the previous kings and queens as well as Aslan from previous times before them. so indeed, many of them didn’t know any different and merely wished to try and get by, in the constant winter any way they knew how. After all like Mr Tumnus himself, they never really expected to actually have to turn a human in, as what was the real likelihood of that happening? All the while secretly waiting for Aslan to return and bring them freedom, and the prophecy of the four thrones to come true.
One question I always had, who took the throne when Peter and his siblings vanished from the golden age ? You never hear of what happened next except for the Caspian story, of course.
I think Tomnas was a friend of Aslan, that's why didn't hand Lucy over. To me it seems like he was just scared of the which at first and knew that what he was doing was wrong. That's why he had the change of heart.
Do you plan on covering the "Planet Narnia" book/documentary/theory one day? Might want to establish yourself and get an overall coverage of the 7 books before doing wide reaching theories of that kind, but that would be interesting.
It’s a problem that often occurs with fiction, especially really good fiction! I think that Lewis wrote The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe intending it as a stand alone work, that grew into something much more. But as it grew, the original story had to change and there were problems or plot holes. If Calormeen and Archenland and many more human countries were existing at the time of the White Witch, Men would not be legendary myths but known entities. Narnia is a small country compared with Calormeen (spelling? Sorry) and in a much wider world. The lone isles, telmar, and many more human civilizations supposedly existed when Tumnus met Lucy, and the White Witch had only ruled for 100 years, no where NEAR long enough in such a small hermit kingdom as Narnia is later portrayed to have been at that time for men to have been totally forgotten or relegated to myths. He does a much better job of allowing time and practical science to occur to allow the mythological creatures to disappear from Narnia during the ten Caspians reigns, but I imagine that if we were to have asked Lewis right after writing Narnia if there were any humans living for miles and miles or for centuries in any physical direction of Narnia, he would tell us that at the time of Lucy’s visit there were no humans at all in the whole of that world, nor had there ever been any of if there had been not for a very long time. That’s how LWW comes across to me, while the rest of the series reverses this initial impression. It seems the best fiction is just written with no specific plan in mind where as authors who set about world building before writing are constantly forced to bend their characters into unnatural ways to fit with the world. The very few (Tolkien) who can design a world AND tell a story that fits within it, are the undisputed masters. This is not met to disparage Lewis, who I enjoy far more than Tolkien, and especially owe a great debt too for my faith (Lewis’s works are why I am a Christian and how I have mentored many young believers, both woth his fiction and non fiction) it just means that the allegories of Narnia are the things to pay attention to, and the specific timelines (“facts”) are not as important. That said I am really enjoying this channel!!!!
Lack of human contact is reasonable. Telmar can be explained away as not yet having begun contact with Narnia. Islanders would have good reason to avoid a dead winter land. Calormenes were padded by a desert and saw Narnia as a fruitless ice land filled with a powerful enchantress and demonic beings. Archenland does pose more of a problem. Lune's kingdom seems to have been running normally without batting an eye. Archenland and Narnia are as old friends and allies in a mere number of years. The witch's reign would certainly hinder, but not necessarily prevent contact with the animals. Perhaps the winter made the southern mountains impassible; not like many Archenlanders would like going there anyway. We must also remember that Lantern Waste is a good distance north of Archenland. However, even without contact, memories live on. Narnians still believed the prophecies and recognized the Pevensies as SoA&DoE. Tumnus's books don't necessarily reflect his position. _Is Man a Myth?_ sounds rather black dwarfish to me. All things considered, I don't think the near legend status is too unreasonable. Besides, a good deal of reign by fear and propaganda has sown doubt in less time, no doubt.
Thank you! I came to your channel through your video about the Wood between the Worlds... it was great, so I went back and binge watched the lot. Now I've come full circle. Love your information and take on Narnia lore. Love the artwork you use to bring out the story, and love finding out more of the background. I'm so looking forward to the next one. So pleased I found your channel.
I was so inspired by the story of Tumnus, I hope you were too. There are so many more characters to explore in the world of Narnia--If you'd like to support the work of this channel today and get exclusive access to pre-releases, research notes, and some swag, you can visit www.patreon.com/IntoTheWardrobe
I totally missed/forgot that Tumnus makes a cameo in Horse and His Boy! Gonna have to read it again.
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Years later and middle aged! Thanks for watching so soon!
I loved him so much in that part! He even figured out the plan to escape the city. Also he seemed like a real good friend to Corin (of course it was Shasta but yknow)
@@luthientinuviel3883 I guess that’s just a fauns nature, to be friendly.
@@Gyeru_Clan3000 yeah I think he was at that point a companion and courtier to the kings and queens, as well as an advisor considering he was the first one to tell the first of them Lucy about the world of Narnia.
I never knew (never really thought about it tbh) that CS Lewis was in his 40s when he wrote the chronicles of Narnia. As a writer who's had writer's block for about 7 years now, this gives me some hope that maybe one day I'll be re-inspired by one of my old ideas
Just Write, inspiration in not likely to come by itself.
I believe it took Tolkien 12 years to write the Lord of the Rings. So, keep at it!
Write every day that's what John Maxwell says. A little a lot doesn't matter every day. After 10 years of writing every day, I'm getting traction and it's not the last six months of work it's the last ten years while no one was reading my stuff.
Dig deep my friend your story needs to be heard.
And here I was feeling too old knowing it's taken me until the age of 27 to finish my first draft, lol. Here's hoping the next one will come a lot sooner.
Hey Bro, I'm 27 working on my book series for the past 7 years. It takes time. Don't worry about it, you'll do great. Just remember that it's not going to be good if you force it. I've had a block for about a year now and I've used the time to flesh out my Lore and legendarium a bit more.
Tumnus' debut in The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe makes me think of the Huntsman from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. He was employed by the Evil Queen to kill Snow White and bring back her heart as proof that he had done the deed. But he couldn't bring himself to murder an innocent maiden. So he told Snow White of the Queen's plans and helped her escape. Later he cut out the heart of a pig to fool the queen into believing he had done the job. He might have gotten away with it, had the queen not asked the magic mirror about Snow White's whereabouts.
Wow! I never made that connection before! Delightful!
Lucy and Mr. Tumnus meeting again is definitely one of my top-ten Narnia moments because of the pure JOY the both felt at meeting what was probably their first and truest friend after a parting when neither could say goodbye. It really was the perfect way to end the series.
Your narration is top-notch. I can literally feel the chills as you spoke about Tumnus' courage, and how he was willing to risk his life. This channel is so underrated. May the world hear and see more of your work, my friend.
It's great to be a part of this community together! You're encouragement is always appreciated.
I have just realised that Lucy's name is derived from the Latin for "light" (lux or lucis), so it is fitting that when Lucy (light) meets Tumnus (change in season and plant growth), it heralds the end of winter. Given that CSL was an expert in allegory (and the uses of allegorical names) and in Latin, this is possibly no accident. Well played, Dr Lewis, well played!
I had considered the meaning of her name before, and even plan on doing an episode about the significance of names in Narnia, but had never considered Lucy's name in this particular application. Thanks for sharing!
Firstly, thank you, I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this series, it’s reawaken my interest into Narnia. I look forward to seeing what you cover next. And thanks for clarifying the differences between fauns and satyrs.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you for watching! I was happy to get the the bottom of it (pun intended).
Never made the connection between the opening of the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, and the Last Battle with Tumnus and Lucy. Amazing
Almost came full circle
He even says his father fought and died in the wars if the beginnings and that he his self had been in the last battle before the freeze took over. His bow is leaning against the wall with his umbrellas
You’ve gotten quite a boost in subs since the last time You posted and it’s well deserved. You’re narration is impeccable and I’m so glad that someone is making Narnia content!
I'm not sure I've realized before how long lived Fawns must be, if he seems like a young man in LWW and remembers the time before the Witch 100 years ago, they could maybe live 200-300 years! So there could be more or less ten generations of Fawn since the dawn of Narnia. Ergo, Tumnus should have had memories of Man's exsistance, if not in Narnia (I'm not sure when Frank's line ended) then at least in nearby Archenland - so far as I know, it's pretty unclear what Jadis did to keep them away, maybe they were in Exile in Calormen or the Islands? I'm guessing Lewis hadn't thought about so much detail with his first book (much to Tolkien's chagrin, Jack was more a seat of his pants type of writer!), but putting the pieces together, I'd guess the "Is Man a Myth" is more of a curio from who knows where to Tumnus, rather then serious Academia - it could even be propaganda made by Jadis's decree!
I don't necessarily learn a lot from this series, but I did need the refresher regarding Fawns and Saytrs, and I never heard of Vertumnus. What's more, you do great retellings of beloved stories, and it's also a platform for some fantastic artwork would likely have never encountered. Good job!
Thank you so much for your engagement in this community. While I definitely don't expect seasoned Narnia fans to learn much, I do hope that there's always something that gives them a new perspective on these old familiar stories. I'm definitely grateful that knowledgeable fans like yourself are able to provide extra commentary.
Regarding Tumnus's age, I've also seen arguments that his knowledge of the old Narnia must have been passed down from his father and others before him, because within less than 15 years he is described as having become a middle-aged faun. Not sure which idea I like better: that he's old enough to remember the Narnia of old, or that he's too young to have actually met an actual man before.
@@IntotheWardrobe Hm, good point, I might have assumed a little bit there. I think it's my memories of how Jeffrey Perry played him in the BBC series (even though he's past middle aged) made it sound like he experienced all that personally, but the book itself is doesn't covey his dialogue directly. It could be only his grandparents experienced Christmas and other seasons, which can make it much easier for him to not only accept the status quo, but ally with it.
And regardless if they have good historical records about men, the whole mythology aspect could just be about men still being alive today.
Yeah, I think that actually makes more sense - makes it a bit like Prince Caspian choosing to believe in the old tales - thanks!
Oh, I like that comparison with Caspian. There's certainly an element of "belief in things unseen" that runs thru the books.
Well he did mention his father briefly
Knowing the little bit that I know about C.S. Lewis's life its likly he took that iconic image of the faun, and introduced himself through it in the story, since Thomnas starting out as a spy for the white witch but falling over to Aslan's side when the time to choose came is a pretty on the nose allegory to Lewis's own start in life of atheism to converting to christianity when it came time to choose.
Mabey this should be obvious and not need stating. But a neat observation none the less.
I never considered that, but it make sense. Up until very recently, I thought Digory Kirk was C.S. Lewis writing himself into the story but I saw a clip of him talking to J.R.R. Tolkien where he reveals that Digory Kirk is Tolkien.
When I was a new Christian, I was so clueless about the allegories and comparisons to Jesus and the passion week. But now, I find it so awesome. Especially when after Aslan is resurrected, he breathes on the creatures. A reminder that true life comes only from Jesus Christ.
Amen❤️🙏
Keep up the great work.I am looking forward to seeing Reepicheep's life
Dude, you are awesome. My mom used these books to help teach me to read. They are still my favorite books. I'm running a D&D game that is set in Narnia during the golden age and my players are about to meet Tumnus, these character explanations are fantastic.
Wow I’m so glad I’m found this channel
Well done. I like how you went a bit more in depth with this one; going in to the real world inspirations of fauns and Lewis's idea with them (actually never heard that before, very interesting). Hope you can do this with some of the other creatures, characters, and such moving forward. You really seem to be honing and developing your craft here, and I can't wait to see what it looks like when it's fully refined. I'm not saying it's bad now, I'm saying it's getting better than it already is.
My son (he's 8y.o.) utterly adores Mr. Tumnus, and will often come into the living room, from having been playing in his bedroom, to announce to me that he's just been to Mr. Tumnus’ house/cave, in *Narnia,* for tea & toast, before they both then visited Mr & Mrs Beaver for sardines and cake! 😄🥰❤️
Mr. Tumnus scared the life out of me when I was little. Still does a small bit ngl.
I really think Narnia does exist. Or did exist, due to The Last Battle.
And these videos really help making me dream about it 🥳 thank you ✨
I think your right about Narnia being real too and I just loved Mr, Tummus and the beavers for Narnia and For Aslan
Well you know what C.S. Lewis said about Aslan...
The reason narnia seems true is because it is, it's not true in the sense that you or I are real with flesh and blood, but in the sense that they are connect to and point to a world, like the narrator says, is more real than our own. Perhapse a person more real than us would be a better phrase, the narnia stories point to jesus christ and his saving work on our behalf and to his kingdom.
So like in the last battle we see a world getting larger and richer the more we push into it, that's what the kingdom of heaven is. Like a seed containing all the information for a tree, we just have to step closer and look deeper to see that the world beyond our is much more than ours, and we will spend forever pushing deeper in of our faith is in jesus christ.
So it is true. The picture of Aslan's country is an accurate picture. I dont think narnia was ever a place we could go to, but it points us to that more real kingdom we're pressing towards. Towards a very real Aslan's country that's more real than our own.
Lewis even said that Aslan's country was like narnia in the respect that everything good about narnia was found perfect and better in Aslan's country and everything lovely about Narnia is lovely because it's an echoe of the better country.
@@OSleeperTactical You're absolutely right, and I'm looking forward to that wonderful future.
But I really think that 'the shadowlands' are real too. In plural form. Or at least, there is no evidence in this whole universe that there aren't more worlds than this one, and I would love the fact that there wóúld be other universes.
Like Puddleglum said in The Silver Chair; "Suppose we have only dreamed, or made up, all those things. Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones."
So I don't know if other worlds exist. But I would love it. And that's why I choose to believe in it ✨
God Bless!
I personally highly doubt that it actually exists. That said, it's completely possible that it's some form of alternate reality. If that's true, then maybe Aslan actually is Jesus, just in a form that suited the other reality more. Once again, I personally doubt all this, but that's the only way I could see it working.
He also had to be very old. He talks about how he had danced in the woods before the witch was queen. We know that her rule was 100 years. If he was middle aged in the golden age he had to live around another 100 years. And been around when the Telmarines invaded. Was he killed in thw invasion or go into hiding?
I just discovered your channel today, thanks to a RUclips suggestion. I'm both loving and hating it. Loving it because the videos I've watched are really engaging and fascinating. They've added a whole new depth of significance to these stories that deepen my appreciation. Hating because now I feel compelled to watch them all as quickly as possible. There goes my productivity! Really, thanks for the channel and your content.
You are amazing man, you made me relive my memories and i started reading narnia once again. Thx for this amazing content
That's so great! I'd love to hear what it's like to re-read for the first time as an adult. Please feel free to email me when you finish!
Love the channel man! You have reignited my love for Narnia. Brings back the memories of reading listening watching and practically living in the wonderful magical world of Narnia. Oh the nostalgia. Thank you
So glad you mentioned about satyrs originally being distinct! A rare observation! - they did get "retconned" to be virtually indistinguishable from fauns by later romans though, who were fanboys of greek culture - which is why this is less obvious today
He was one of my favorite characters
Finally Mr. Tumnus!
Can you make a video about Tash! Pls.
We can't leave out Tash! He's on the list, I promise. :-)
OK, thanks my master!
Oh boy, a lot to tackle with that Thing. Interesting to be sure, but that's a lot of background info to dig through.
@@IntotheWardrobe can you do one about reepicheep? Nice video as always!
Amazing video! Time to re-read Narnia again, just have to finish readng Lord of the Rings. Heh.
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I can’t describe how much I love this Channel
This channel is so incredible! Keep it up!
Cool channel, C.S.LEWIS is one of my favorite authors. I wish books like Out of the Silent Planet, Paralandra, That Hideous Strength,and The Great Divorce were more talked about but I do love Narnia. Tumnis and his story are extremely relevant today more than ever.
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Very Interesting - the possible explanation of his name hadn't occurred to me .
Thanks.
Please never stop making videos! Finally we have a Narnia channel
You got it! Thanks for being a part of the community!
Thanks again for a fantastic video. You always give give info and give in depth research into and makes me feel like Narnia is alive somewhere. I can’t wait to see who or where is next. Well done again 😃
Wow, thank you for the encouragement. Really means alot!
That conclusion was masterful. What a way to end a story. I have watched like 10 videos today. These are so good. I’ve been re-listening to the drama series and these videos are such a great paring to the stories themselves.
I love this channel keep it up, in a way Tumnus was the messenger and Herald
of the world of of Narnia to come to CS Lewis, as he was to Lucy when she was first introduced to that world.
So true!
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I love Tumnus! Several things about him remind me of the apostle Paul.
I agree!
That's interesting. I've thought of Puddleglum more like that especially considering how dreary his letters to the churches get after a joyful start and the fact that he too faces a serpent. He is also rather insistent that he is a Marshwiggle in front of a ruler much like Paul is about being a Roman. However Tumnus is a bit like Peter once he turns around especially when you consider that Peter means stone and Tumnus is turned into a stone statue only to be brought back to life by the breath of Aslan. Peter and the other disciples had the breath of Christ put into them before he ascended and the Holy Spirit came onto him at the day of Pentecost. The Hebrew word for Holy Spirit is Ruach Hakodesh, more accurately translated as breath/wind holy. Once that happens Peter starts doing what he should more closely. Peter renounced Christ during his trial and Tumnus had his moment at the beginning with planning to kidnap Lucy. One of the foods he offers Lucy was sardines and Peter was a fisherman. I suppose we can never be certain.
Love your channel! Please continue your great work, I hope it will inspire more people to venture into the World more real than our own!
Thank you for this. It was absolutely beautiful.
I (personally) think how Tumnus have changed side from working for The White Witch to being loyal to Aslan makes him even more noble.
In his days Aslan was nowhere to be found, his father died in a war that he didn't win, The White Witch basically ruled Narnia and there was pain, fear, and suffering everywhere. What choice does he have? And can you blame him for losing faith? I can't blame people who chose survival over goodness in their hearts. He almost did what most creatures in Narnia at that time would do which is turn Lucy in. But the moment he has to choose, he sees the light through Lucy and put his faith in Aslan who I assume he never sees in his lifetime or ever feels his warm spring.
Those who always have faith are no doubts strong in their hearts.
But those who choose to turn back from the wrong side, despite everything they've faced are the bravest of all.
Love this so much😍do you take suggestions? If so please do reepicheep next.
Hey, do you want to create video about Tash in the future? I really enjoyed ones about Jadis and Green Lady, and Tash is the 3rd of, let's call them, supernatural villains
Thank you so much, I really loved all of your videos, especially the one on the Lady of the Green Kirtle!
Could you please make a video about Coriakin?
Tumnis' journey shows that courage is not limited to those with strength of arms. I think Tumnis made the choice because of who Lucy was and how kind she was. How different Tumnis' life might have been if Edmond had been the first human he met
Imagine having layers and a character arc. Thanks for putting this together.
Glad to know I'm not the only Narnia channel out there! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching. I've seen your channel too! You always bring up the most interesting topics!
One more subscriber to your list👌🏽 and NGL but you sound like the narrator from Matilda.
That's one of my favorite books of all time! Thanks for subscribing!
The narrator from Matilda is Danny DeVito lol
I love this video and I’ve always love Chronicles Narnia it’s the book that I can escape to in imagine myself in the world instead of my world .
I think you're over emphasizing Tumnus as being part of the "dark side". Sure, he was acting under instruction from the white witch, but this wasn't so much like he was "employed" by her as you cleverly hint at while being careful not to actually say it. He wasn't actively working as an informant. This was more a blanket threat to ALL Narnians given by Jadis - if anyone ever finds a human they should bring them to her or they would be killed. This was just a general Narnian law that Tumnus and everyone else knew of. A law which he followed because he feared for his life and then very quickly changed his mind about upon having to act upon it for the first time. Let's not make out that he came from a dark villainous backstory and went through a complex redemption.
Kelmorines and Archenlanders: ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU?!
I know Narnia is vey biblical but the ending of this show is wayyyy too religious sounding. I love the story of Narnia, but the ideology behind it and behind the message of this video is very strange. Should we not be our best selves for ourselves? Goodness should happen with out the intervention of a higher power, otherwise its out of kissing butt or fear. Which means it isn't really being good at your core.
Oddly, the Narnian satyrs look more, not less goat-like than the fauns!
Thank You 🙏😊
Do all the Kings and Queens of Narnia
Great idea!
You sir, earned a subscriber.
Hello, I'm Heather, a new subscriber from Newcastle Upon Tyne here in England.
Here's a theory video idea be it a single video or series:
How did the events of the Narnia stories effect the other nations of the Narnian world?
What was going on in the other countries during the same time, and did the events of the Narnian stories effect other countries?
Fore example, what was going on in Archenland or Telmar during the days of jadis's reign?
Or else what was going on in Kalormen during the Voyage of the Dawn Treader?
Also just a little tip for you about pronunciation for Archenland's name:
Archenland is pronounced arkenland, the Ch makes a K sound. It's not pronounced like arch it's pronounced like ark.
Hey what's the music that's used in the video? I've been looking for it but can't find it anywhere
I love this! The old Tumnus has died and the new Tumnus has come. :)
I have the same idea with Eustace in the voyage of the Dawn Treader. He became a dragon, but Aslan set him free from the dragon skin. He got out his old skin and got a new skin (with normal clothes) from Aslan. This comes from Ephesians 4: 20-24
Fantastic , I love your videos... this is a great channel
Sometimes I see alot of biblical stories in the narnia books .. Tumnus sometimes represented to me...that he was the converted St Paul. He persecuted Christians until he met jesus walking on a road one day and it changed his whole life and his beliefs from then on. In Narnia when he met Lucy , this was a the change that moved him from the side of the witch to the side of Aslan. It just a thought.. The depth of christianity and religion is huge in these books. Just like Trumpkin was the doubting Thomas with regards jesus coming back to life.. it was the same theme that he didnt believe that Aslan existed until he saw him face to face.. and he breathed on him...
Agreed! Thanks for the analysis!
I love this channel keep it up, in a way Tumnus was the messenger and herald
of the world of of Narnia to come to CS Lewis, as he was to Lucy when she was first introduced to that world.
I love these!!! Can’t wait for next weeks upload!!!
Great intro
More than a cameo, he's a wise councilor‼️
Great video Stuart! I like how you bring in conclusions of things we can learn from the story.
This gives me courage to write rap song
@intotheWardrobe will you guys do telmarine, telmare and archenland history?
I wish they did a prequel of Narnia to explore the beginning of what led to the events from the narnia movies
Awesome video! I would love to see a video of Tash, the Anti-Aslan
All of the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe is based on Jupitar. Jove. So Tumnus has a major role in it because he is such a 'jovial" character.
I would love a video about Edmund Pevensie
Would you like to make a video about Telmar? It seems an interesting country, although it never appeared. Keep up the great job, I love it!
The Christain over tones though...
This was a fantastic look at who Mr. Tumnus is and I learned a lot about him! He’s my favorite character and now I’m even more excited to finally read The Chronicles of Narnia!
The parcels Mr. Tumnus was carrying when he met Lucy makes me wonder if he was celebrating christmas illegally ?
U should make a video of where the telemarines came from and how they got to narnia
Tumnus was in the employ of
the white witch, having by
now resigned himself to a life
without Aslan without the
hope of being free again.
However, when he meets Lucy
Pevensie, he won't be able to
hand her over to Jadis the
false queen of Narnia because
he knows it's wrong.
In fact, when she tells the little
girl about it, she receives
understanding and
forgiveness from the latter.
That's why it then turns into a
faithful ally of the forces of
good, and becomes very wise
over the years.
Until he meets in the real
Narnia Lucy, and all the other
main protagonists of the Saga.
Where they will live happily
ever after.
See you soon. 😊
Hey Mr. Wardrobe,
I just did discover your channel and I am so in love from the beginning.
Funny thing is, I for some weeks I am reading the series and your vids are souch a lovely bonus. Keep it up 👍🏻
In Edith Nesbit's The Enchanted Castle : ' ' I'll not go yet ,' he told himself ; ' it's too early. And perhaps I shall never be here again. I suppose it is the night that makes everything look so different.'
Something white moved under a weeping willow ; white hands parted the long , rustling leaves. A white figure came out , a creature with horns and goats' legs and the head and arms of a boy [ Faun ].'
This imprinted itself on CS Lewis's young imagination to be regurgitated decades later ...
In CS Lewis Narnia studies never forget the influence of the children's stories of Edith Nesbit ( 1958 - 1924 ).
Tumnus is dualistic just as people are. The Narnia series is a children's allegory of Christ's redemption. If you esteem Aslan's character, you may be surprised to find it is based on Christ's character. C.S. Lewis was a serious scholar of religion & the author of very significant & highly regarded faith texts. As Aslan went to the stone Table for Edmond, so too Christ went to the cross for all who would believe on Him.
I must humbly disagree with your definition of a Satyr. Ancient Greek art depicted Satyrs as men with horse’s ears and tail; far more common descriptions of Satyrs are from Ancient Roman mythology, as men with goat’s ears, legs, tails, and horns. According to some ancient and contemporary interpretations, Fauns have somewhat straighter legs and longer tails and are much less wild, being given to less debauchery and can be a bit more timid and naive. With stronger legs, more abundant hair and longer horns, Satyrs are given to wild though sometimes wiser natures, and are a more lustful creature. There are some depictions that show very little physical difference between the two.
I think in reality, Mr Tumnus didn’t really understand what it would mean to be in the service of the witch. No doubt he was in turmoil as many were as to who their royalties really lied. As the white witch had indeed been in power for over 100 years. and many Narnian’s had never known any other ruler (and still nevertheless, hating her). and only heard of the previous kings and queens as well as Aslan from previous times before them. so indeed, many of them didn’t know any different and merely wished to try and get by, in the constant winter any way they knew how. After all like Mr Tumnus himself, they never really expected to actually have to turn a human in, as what was the real likelihood of that happening? All the while secretly waiting for Aslan to return and bring them freedom, and the prophecy of the four thrones to come true.
One question I always had, who took the throne when Peter and his siblings vanished from the golden age ? You never hear of what happened next except for the Caspian story, of course.
But one thing i can't accept is when Lucy, Edmund, Peter die and Susan is no longer Aslans friend and no longer beleive that Narnia exist.
I think Tomnas was a friend of Aslan, that's why didn't hand Lucy over. To me it seems like he was just scared of the which at first and knew that what he was doing was wrong. That's why he had the change of heart.
I just started listening to the books on audible and Im loving them! So glad i found this channel!
I’m so glad I found your channel! You make some great stuff!
Do you plan on covering the "Planet Narnia" book/documentary/theory one day? Might want to establish yourself and get an overall coverage of the 7 books before doing wide reaching theories of that kind, but that would be interesting.
Yes, I can't wait to get there. It's an amazing piece of work. And, you're exactly right, I'd like to get some foundational content out first.
Great series ! Another splendid entry "Into the Wardrobe...
I just realized this just now. All of them got Isekaid multiple times.
It’s a problem that often occurs with fiction, especially really good fiction! I think that Lewis wrote The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe intending it as a stand alone work, that grew into something much more. But as it grew, the original story had to change and there were problems or plot holes. If Calormeen and Archenland and many more human countries were existing at the time of the White Witch, Men would not be legendary myths but known entities. Narnia is a small country compared with Calormeen (spelling? Sorry) and in a much wider world. The lone isles, telmar, and many more human civilizations supposedly existed when Tumnus met Lucy, and the White Witch had only ruled for 100 years, no where NEAR long enough in such a small hermit kingdom as Narnia is later portrayed to have been at that time for men to have been totally forgotten or relegated to myths.
He does a much better job of allowing time and practical science to occur to allow the mythological creatures to disappear from Narnia during the ten Caspians reigns, but I imagine that if we were to have asked Lewis right after writing Narnia if there were any humans living for miles and miles or for centuries in any physical direction of Narnia, he would tell us that at the time of Lucy’s visit there were no humans at all in the whole of that world, nor had there ever been any of if there had been not for a very long time.
That’s how LWW comes across to me, while the rest of the series reverses this initial impression.
It seems the best fiction is just written with no specific plan in mind where as authors who set about world building before writing are constantly forced to bend their characters into unnatural ways to fit with the world. The very few (Tolkien) who can design a world AND tell a story that fits within it, are the undisputed masters. This is not met to disparage Lewis, who I enjoy far more than Tolkien, and especially owe a great debt too for my faith (Lewis’s works are why I am a Christian and how I have mentored many young believers, both woth his fiction and non fiction) it just means that the allegories of Narnia are the things to pay attention to, and the specific timelines (“facts”) are not as important.
That said I am really enjoying this channel!!!!
Lack of human contact is reasonable. Telmar can be explained away as not yet having begun contact with Narnia. Islanders would have good reason to avoid a dead winter land. Calormenes were padded by a desert and saw Narnia as a fruitless ice land filled with a powerful enchantress and demonic beings.
Archenland does pose more of a problem. Lune's kingdom seems to have been running normally without batting an eye. Archenland and Narnia are as old friends and allies in a mere number of years.
The witch's reign would certainly hinder, but not necessarily prevent contact with the animals. Perhaps the winter made the southern mountains impassible; not like many Archenlanders would like going there anyway. We must also remember that Lantern Waste is a good distance north of Archenland. However, even without contact, memories live on. Narnians still believed the prophecies and recognized the Pevensies as SoA&DoE. Tumnus's books don't necessarily reflect his position. _Is Man a Myth?_ sounds rather black dwarfish to me.
All things considered, I don't think the near legend status is too unreasonable. Besides, a good deal of reign by fear and propaganda has sown doubt in less time, no doubt.
@@Narnian_knight
Thank you for your long and well thought out response.
Tumnus although mythical creature is more human than the humans in the Narnian chronicles
Interesting. Do you mean to say that his character displays more depth, both in faults and development?
I won't forget James McAvoy in that role.
Love the final advice, it is truly amazing!
Woah im watching this exactly two year later (to the day it was uploaded) 😅
Well dont forget seeing is believing and that kind of has the same meaning as thinking
very fitting for the two to meet at the Lamp post that was made by that metal bar
I get why you didn't wanna come out and say it in the video but for anyone who didn't get it, satyrs were straight-up racists.
Have you considered covering Lewis's Space Trilogy?
We'll absolutely get there eventually!
Thank you! I came to your channel through your video about the Wood between the Worlds... it was great, so I went back and binge watched the lot. Now I've come full circle. Love your information and take on Narnia lore. Love the artwork you use to bring out the story, and love finding out more of the background. I'm so looking forward to the next one. So pleased I found your channel.