@ShipperS7 oh. right. You are referring to the masculine ability to emanate a sense of danger in one's aura... so that bad people must fear him ?... but what if one isn't able to exude that ? Does that makes one less masculine ? Or should an ideal masculine man should be everready at his toes for any potential threat ?... That's the way to be... ? Right.. the warrior mindset... breaking the baddies' jaws!!... but one could be put in jail for that... worst case scenario :')... wait, a masculine must not fear anything, come what may !!.. (back to grind.) (Lol, i should really see a therapist)...
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity only toxic individuals, that includes both men and women. Masculinity like femininity is needed and necessary for any thriving society.
My definituon of Healthy masculinity: 1. Having Personal and social responsibility within reasonable range 2. Choosing your relationships wisely, and having pride in your relationships 3. Being proud of your passions and goals
Masculinity has to do with mindset. It's strength (mental) and confidence. And to an extent, the ability to not give a f*ck. The rest is just personal ideals, like morals or responsibility. They make you a better person, but they don't necessarily make you masculine.
For me masculinity is chasing after your dreams in order to reach true happiness and then spreading that happiness to those closest to you. As a man you live to serve, both yourself and those closest to you
Just get to know someone well enough. Once you know that person well enough, then you can decide whether or not they are safe to express your true emotions around and to. I know how you feel. There are people out there that are tough on emotional expressions. But they are usually the most emotional of all because of their suppression of their own emotional instincts.
@@richardcarte "just get to know someone we'll enough" ha! I was betrayed again and again and again by the very same people I thought I knew very well, people I would sacrifice my life for. Keep your advice, it's worthless
@@juliemarkham4332No, none of the women I was with had any mental problems, beside being compulsive liars who never took any accountability or responsibility for their actions in a relationship or even in their own personal life/emotional wellbeing
What I dislike about both Feminism and the Red Pill is this notion that men/women can be boiled down to a set of traits. It is an appalling over generalization that breeds bias against people simply based on their gender. People are more complicated than a random biological assignment they get a birth over which they had ZERO control
Thank you. I agree people have put waaaay too much on some of this stuff. Both men and women possess all these traits, and by and large, most people fall into the middle of the pack in whatever mix they have of them. Being a healthy man or woman is much more about being a healthy *adult* than anything else.
Healthy masculinity isn't just about being strong; it's about having the courage to show vulnerability, the empathy to understand others' experiences, and the integrity to stand up for what's right. It's about breaking down walls of toxic masculinity and building bridges of connection and understanding. Let's redefine what it means to be a man - one built on compassion, authenticity, and respect. Together, we can create a world where everyone feels seen, heard, and valued. #HealthyMasculinity
The most masculine thing you can do in my subjective opinion, is being vegan and a humanist. There's major hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance in contributing to history's largest holocaust, to unnecessarily be; enslaved, raped, orphaned, tortured, exploited and killed, with 90 billion land animals and trillions of marine lives every year for the momentary pleasure of the taste buds. Pigs and birds being forced into gas chambers, having their tails/ teeth/ testicles ripped off without anesthesia, male babies being macerated, suffocated, having their throat slit, or being bludgeoned to death. It's not a personal choice because there's a victim whose well-being, you’re either violating or terminating. You seem to confuse making a choice yourself without interference as a personal choice, rather than one that affects other people. Why don’t you trade places with them? You just don't care because you're not the one in the position and can appeal to the ostrich effect (burying your head in the sand) and ignoring what happens on a daily basis. You say vegans are forcing their beliefs on you, but it’s their value of not harming others, whereas you are forcing others to be harmed for your beliefs. E.g., If I punch the air, it is a personal choice. No one, or thing, is being harmed. However, if any sentient being gets in my vicinity while I’m swinging, and I intentionally still hit, it is no longer a personal choice. There’s a victim whose life I’ve harmed. Vegans would be the ones defending you, if you were in that position. It makes one a morally bankrupt hypocrite to break the golden rule, and put others in a position that they, themselves would never want to be in. In fact, you all would be crying, and begging for mercy, and the only ones to attempt to save you (vegans), have no power. You have no right to intentionally violate the well-being of another sentient beings with the will to live, in the same way no one has the right to infringe on your well-being. If it's not good enough for you, or your eyes to see, don't do it to them. It's just arbitrary discrimination based on species, no different from racism, sexism, or homophobia. It's unnecessary, as all essential nutrients are readily available in plant-based alternatives, whether whole foods, fortified foods, or supplements. Would you rather pay to have an animals throat slit, or take a vitamin occasionally, which itself is more bioavailable. Even if it were not, just take extra. Causing unnecessary harm is, therefore, immoral. If you're not vegan, you're an animal abuser, which is the least manly thing.
Not sure what world you live in but from my experience any man I know that’s expressed even a small amount of vulnerability is instantly seen as weak or completely disregarded. This is learnt at a very young age that boys and men are disposable and are dropped instantly or not respected. Society as a whole teaches us this fact, every day.
@@MrSladejYou do realize that you just described the systematic way patriarchy physically and mentally damage men, right? It is not the only way, but like you said, it’s so pervasive and lived everyday. So standing against it takes even greater courage.
@@MrSladej If it makes you feel any better, women don't get it much easier. I'm a lady and you have no idea how many times I've been told not to cry, or if I cry in front of someone, they'd get mad at me or suggest I'm trying to manipulate them (that's what we women do, apparently, just cry to manipulate people). It's good times. Imo we need to stop thinking of these traits as masculine or feminine; just recognize good and bad traits, how to grow traits to be helpful to us without being a burden, learn to moderate our flaws, and just let people be people aside from that.
This video was a lot more balanced than most, so good on you there. I will kinda challenge the ideas of masculinity vs femininity, though. I take a real issue with this for 2 reasons: 1) almost universally, good traits are given to men while weak traits are given to women (whether actually weak or perceived as weak), and 2) both sexes exhibit both types of traits fairly regularly. As you yourself said, women do and always have shown things like appropriate emotional restraint, discipline, and being willing to do hard work, as well as many other traits described as masculine (eg tenacity, having high standards of achievement, being logical). For some reason though, despite the fact that these traits were not only present but *common* among women for basically all of known history, they're designated as masculine. And the reverse is true too - things said to be feminine, like caring for others, showing emotion, valuing community, being "soft", etc, have long been present in many men, too (even if they were expected to squash them down). So why bother delineating any of these traits as masculine or feminine? Wouldn't it be better, and much more accurate, to simply describe traits as desirable or undesirable, how to moderate them to be appropriate to a situation (eg showing emotion to a spouse is good, to an employer maybe not so much), how to cultivate them so they benefit us without overly burdening us? To me, while we might be able to talk broadly about certain genuine trends between men and women (eg women are more people-oriented, men are more thing-oriented; women have better colour recognition, etc), the fact is that we're all individuals with our own mix of *all* of these traits, and for most of us that individual mix lands us loosely in the middle of the pack. In being a man or a woman, I think the key thing is being an *adult.* To me, that means taking the time to grow these positive traits and to learn to moderate your flaws, being self-sufficient to a reasonable degree but also having the humility to ask for help when you need it, taking responsibility for your actions and self-development, as well as for the wellbeing, growth, nurturing, and teaching of those in your care. To go to the question these days, "what is a man? what is a woman?" and people say "an adult human male" or "an adult human female" and that's really all it is. To be the sex that you have, and to be an adult, and to be a human being. We don't need to complicate it more than that.
The greatest sign of masculinity in my opinion, is not caring about other peoples opinions. You cant please everybody, no matter what you do you will upset somebody, so just do your own thing regardless.
"god never gives 2 people the same test" is what i believe, i believe masculinity should mean something else to other people rather than having 1 meaning
A life lived to serve others, is a life well-lived! Making others feel safe and valued, having a strong work ethic, and loyalty to others are all traits of Positive masculinity!
It's very true, and imo an under-appreciated part of this topic (which, imo, lends itself well to my own view that there are no such thing as masculine or feminine traits, just traits that all of us have or can cultivate, and each of us generally has our own mix of them). Like, go back a few hundred years, and it was masculine to wear jewelry, colourful tights, tunics, and high heels. Or like, for a stretch there it was unseemly for a woman to weave tapestries, something we'd see as feminine today. In other cultures, women couldn't play certain instruments, and men wore skirts and were part of the bardic traditions. It's all just a big jumble of whatever meanings we've attached to it.
One day, I woke up and wondered "Why am I not a man?" I was identifying as non binary, and I knew why I wasn't a girl. I had never wondered why I wasn't a man. It wasn't because it didn't feel right. In my mind there was a minimum amount of male gender roles you needed to be ok performing in order to qualify as a man. I didn't tick enough boxes so therefore obviously I had to be non binary. I had never given a damn about gender roles living as a girl. I would break gender roles just to flex. I grew up with girlpower and "women can do anything men can!". But no one said "men can do anything that women can". It wasn't "cool" and "radical" for a guy to wear a skirt or be emotional, as it was for a girl to be tough and wear a suit. Being a man to me looked like being a woman, but more restrictive. Can't wear this, can't act like this, can't do this, can't do that. Definitely can't be _yourself_ ! But that day, I realized that no gender police was gonna knock on my door. There *was* no minimal amount of gender roles. No one could *really* tell me who I was other than myself. If being a man felt right to me, it was up to me to decide my own kind of masculinity, what sort of man I wanted to be. And that is how I realized I was a trans guy. Mind you, I was 4 months on testosterone already. Everyone who saw me that day asked me why I looked so happy. What was I gonna tell them? "I can be a man!" Yeah, no shit, Sherlock, aren't you already doing that? 😂
@@artaeunThat's a strawman, the commenter was saying that being a pushover without any sort of spine and integrity is a feminine trait, that doesn't instantly default into "being an asshole" as the only other option. I believe a truely healthy masculine person stands up to their beliefs and doesn't get passively aggressive or toxic with others who disagree with them. To say that the world needs to be void of three thinking or resilience is a dangerous statement to say the least
That's a strawman, the commenter was saying that being a pushover without any sort of spine and integrity is a feminine trait, that doesn't instantly default into "being an asshole" as the only other option. I believe a truely healthy masculine person stands up to their beliefs and doesn't get passively aggressive or toxic with others who disagree with them. To say that the world needs to be void of free thinking or resilience is a dangerous statement to say the least
To answer/add, bare with me. "Finding a place for men in today's world." It reminds me of a bartender years ago who asked me "what are the women like where you're from?" As stupid a question, as honest and upright a guy i came to know him.. I answered, "please, in the name of all men, please don't ever ask that question again. No good shall come of it. But to answer your question(because he was dead-serious) 6 billion people. There are no 2 alike. Women nor us men." Keeping that in mind, we might share characteristics across the board. Those characteristics used to be comprehended due to personal scenarios in daily life. It was there, but only whens you moved forward in space and time, be it in your neighbourhood or at work, no different than today. But it was only then, when outside. Outside your home, or inside your home, but not in the comfort of your own silence and privacy, computing what Is happening. And deconstructing so. Now. Today. That comfort, while still present, no longer has boarders. Overload breaches. An overload of opinions, moments, voices, places. The breach; before today, introduction/absorbtion, was a scenario, solely instigated when having stepped outside your home. And ever since internet got integrated on the mobile phone. The capability of illness got integrated into the comfort of your homes. (*toxicity's workings: the introduction/absorbtion of a substance, maybe the bottle be filled with oil, words or views. Animate or inanimate) Which in turn lead to the mind being tricked into thinking there's nothing wrong with what you're doing or thinking in the place where you've always done so. So i think there's enough room for men in today's world, for today we have enough sex-changes. We just don't give Men, chances they need or want. Just like in a way, women didn't get theirs decades+ ago. Which is the time we live in, that also part reason i think. Because the development of the world that need to be done to get where we are, that need actual Hard physical labor, is done. The buildings built now, are for show. Popularity. Hubris. And yes to evolve we need more. But just like masculinity being misguided, do we need more? No. It's because we want to go further, we want more. So put those bricks down. Put those phones down. Take one week, 1. Pick 1, of the opposite sex to have an actual conversation with. Ask things You want answered. Not things you've been persuaded to ask. If that did something for you, you'll take another week. And not because i'm saying so. Take Your time
It seems like this video's target audience is the average person still searching for meaning in life or recovering from past failures. Watching content like this might provide comfort and reaffirmation for them. However, those who are already contented and benefiting in masculinity or femininity likely won't resonate with this message and might even perceive it as toxic. This video seems designed to appeal to a specific audience, and if you find yourself connecting with it, you're likely in that demographic. However, there could be individuals who find a middle ground between the Red Pill and Blue Pill ideologies, and they might resonate with this content in a unique way.
i loved the "emotional intimacy part". however, id like to argue that men need people to talk to, except it should NOT be women. b*tching & whining to/with women can often break relationships. women stop seeing you as a warrior who can handle his own shit. i only say this cause ive experienced this early on in my life. if you need to talk to someone, it should be men. you need to have good quality friendships & relationships. talking to men only makes your masculine bond stronger & better. hence, i advise guys to not talk to their significant other/crush/female friends about their feelings. once in a while is okay, but when you do it constantly, it results in the woman taking a masculine role in the relationship. nice vid aperture 1!!1!!1!
this is true but if you and your partner are in secure relationship she might not feel that way. a woman would also like to reciprocate the love affection you give her.
Apsolute truth. Your SO might ask you what’s on your mind or might notice you’re down. Most don’t really want to hear about everything. All they want to hear is how they can make you feel better and if the problem is themselves. You sit down and whine about your issues day in and day out they will lose respect for you. Quickly as well. Men will only ever be judged. It’s why our brotherly bonds are stronger than any female bonds. So long as you surround yourself with lads willing to be honest with you. I’m sorry but women don’t have the capacity or understanding of what a man can be going through. I’d argue it’s hat they don’t really care so long as you assure them it’s not them being the issue
11:26 - "We should feel free to pursue our identity how we see fit" I could only agree with you if you also let me shame people for living that way, we can't expect to do what we want without being judged for it, because then you deny me the opportunity to judge you as I see fit.
I feel like the Manosphere and Redpill movements are two separate things with a couple overlapping values. I’m a 32yo woman and I love Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson, Lex Freidmen, JRE, Tim Pool and countless other influential voices that showed me where the ‘red pill’ was and none of them are part of the Tate manosphere.
You’d be surprised how many women actually think Andrew Tate is right; yes there are things he’s not right with but most of the things he say are spot on, he could be nicer about it yes, but saying 2 + 2 is f*ckng 4 is still a true statement.
Embracing true masculinity means finding a balance between strength and sensitivity, and ensuring our actions uplift rather than diminish others. Let's redefine masculinity in a way that celebrates both courage and compassion, where being strong also means being kind.
The interesting thing with Tate and all of these other gurus is that, if you know what to listen out for, you can actually learn a lot of valuable lessons from them. Tate’s views on women and healthy relationships are undoubtedly wrong, but his emphasis on taking care of yourself physically, having good routines, working hard and associating yourself with good people is, in my opinion, absolutely correct. All in all, I think it’s wrong to shut them out completely, but at the same time you shouldn’t take his word as it rolls off the tongue. If you are not capable of telling the sh*t from the facts, steer clear of them. If you are, try to derive valuable lessons from these guy’s rants, because they are there. Just don’t get brainwashed lol 😂
Tate's view on women is the same which was shared by evolutionary psychologist Dr.Gad Saad, Men's right's activist Karen Straughan and also by professor and author Camille Paglia in her book "Sexual Personna". All of them had the core idea of evolutionary mating behaviors and women's propensity for hypergamy in their description. Besides this, may I know what was Tate's idea of women which you found disagreeable?
@@ajeetalbert91except he corrupts what little science he bases his claims on to create a toxic mindset that makes mem keep coming back to him for fixes to their self-esteem.
What always frustrates me is when influencers say "red pillers say/believe". A lot of what was said in the first 4 minutes already is false. Examples: 1. "Followers also attribute women's desire for an emotional and sexual connection to an influence from the feminist matrix." -Usually I can at least figure out where the misunderstanding comes from. This time I can't. A. No, we don't think women's desire for intimacy does not come from the feminist matrix. B. We also don't believe in some feminist matrix. We do describe how women tend to go along with popular / other women's beliefs as a "hivemind" so maybe that's where that came from. C. We also aren't "followers". There is no "red pill pope" or something that we all blindly follow. The whole reason why the red pill is so fragmented is because we don't blindly follow. This is something others like to ascribe to it to avoid confronting the actual observations and arguments made by dismissing it as some form of religion or cult. The moment you say "red pill believes" you're probably wrong, there's many different groups with all kinds of differing opinions inside of the red pill community. D. No, women don't have a deep yearning to convince men to consent to exploitative relationships. Women have a deep yearning for comfort and security that due to modern culture expresses itself in exploitative ways. Will they due to their agreeable/conflict averse nature be more manipulative than men? Yes, but that is not a yearning to exploit men. That's just a part of being conflict averse and neurotic/avoidant. Which is a horrible combination when you give them the societal and legal protectiveness and privilege the likes of which only aristocrats could have matched. Being manipulative and spoiled tends to lead to controlling and manipulative behavior, not healthy relationships. 2. A. "Red pill believers" - No. B. Saying red pillers "reinforce their worldview" by drawing on evolutionary psychology is about as accurate as saying physicists test their theories through seismograph. Sure, when applicable they may use it to support the theory, however it is only one tool of many and few treat evolutionary psychology alone as enough evidence of anything. Physicists don't test their theories of about the wavelength of light through seismograph, neither do we. C. Finally an accurate statement, though immediately followed by a strawman (at best). Correct: "Women evolved physiological mechanisms to deceive men into generous partners and help their offspring survive." False: "And since all women supposedly have this Machiavellian instinct it's justifiable for men to have their own Machiavellian mindset." - To begin with, physiological mechanisms are not the same as instincts. So this isn't just wrong about the red pill even internally this argument is as sturdy as a paper sieve. Aside from that Red pill does not justify. The whole red pill metaphor is about swallowing the bitter pill of reality so you don't continue to live with comforting lies. It is not about our moral compass. Each person decides for themselves right and wrong. We may point out a belief that's blatantly false or proven wrong/dysfunctional, but we don't tend to force our beliefs on each other. That tends to be more the incel communities. I was planning to make a list for all the points in the video, but every half a sentence is filled with a paragraph of falsehoods and obviously biased/false information. Honestly a little disappointed. I'm used to thought provoking content from this channel, but this is just such a poorly thought through video without any self-reflection of your own biases on the subject.
If evolutionary biology doesn't form the crux of red pill, then what else does? I ask it because the whole spectrum of reasons given by red pillers will be somehow connected to the concept of evolutionary biology. Can you cite some examples where you give explanations or statements which hold reason without the support of Evolutionary science?
Just like your wavelength-seisomograph idea, I am asking if you can provide few examples of different ideas like wavelengths and their respective counterparts like spectrometer which you use as tools to explain?
Helloo when I hear Red Pill a few names comes to mind. Rollo, Fresh n Fit, Kevin Samuels and friends. And yes these men profess the ideas mentioned in this video So whatever Red Pill you're talking about doesn't count. Edit: How did I forget to mention CobraTate :O
@@spacebuddy5339I don't listen to fresh and fit or kevin samuels, but these points are not accurate of Rollo Tomassi. You either do not listen to him without bias or you're making up strawmen.
@lbert91As with all rigorous thought: you take information from multiple sources. From psychology to biology, from simple observation to tens of thousands of men attempting an idea and returning with the results they had. Sharing notes is the key principle. Basically the same way science was done before it became an institution. Not perfect, but some good ideas come out of it that can be improved upon later. As for tools the simplest are field reports, men going out there and trying out the ideas in the real world for themselves and returning with the results. Some bad field reports happen, but most old guys know how to sift through that (when you try to boost / soothe your ego it becomes kind of obvious). Others are observation and matching observations. So you don't go out and test an idea but simply observe what's happening and write it down accurately, then share notes. Then you have using scientific knowledge like evolutionary psychology, official statistics, biology, and then cross referencing it with observation and field reports. After all if it cannot be replicated then it is likely the study that was unreliable or incomplete. Other tools are less scientific and more like philosophy. People putting forward and debating ideas until some can go out and be tested. Debates, discussions, and other such conversations can often spark something. Then finally you have simply old guys with experience in life sharing their experiences. Sometimes the oldies have some wisdom to share. Nothing scientific but often useful nonetheless. Though to be fair this is a list of tools made by a layman, so I may have missed some as well. Rollo Tomassi (the rational male on youtube/blog) is a place to go. Others would include Rian Stone from the top of my head.
Preach, man. I'm a woman, and beyond the stuff associated with my physical body, it's not something I've spent much time thinking about. I prefer to just be myself and not worry about it so much, while just working on my own stuff. I think a lot of people would be happier if they did the same.
"hiding emotions isn't appreciated"? Idk where you live but where I'm at, if u ever get emotional in front of a woman, she'll hold it over your head later on at the worst time, no matter if it's been a long term relationship, idk where I'm from women are just not wired to stand an emotional man & men over here thankfully are still masculine 😂
@@cerealwithwarmmilk my point is if u get emotional in front of your partner your image in her head is changed forever, women are wired to look for a man that will support them emotionally as well, so when u get emotional in front of one I can guarantee u that she will no longer see u as 100% reliable on that front, & once that's damaged it will gradually make a whole lot more shit pop up over time. There's a reason women now are complaining about men becoming too soft
@CanisoGaming I can guarantee you any mutually emotionally intelligent and secure woman is not going to look at you differently for showing emotion. Most of us are begging y'all to show emotion in a healthy and completely normal manner instead of trying to shove weird societal standards down your throat that greatly affect the mental health of so many men and the way they regard themselves/handle difficulties and stress. A real man is comfortable in sharing a few or some maybe traditionally feminine traits or ways of operating me thinks.
The greatesr sign of masculinity is to care for your loved ones and in some cases also to stand up for the weak, bullied, oppressed, and for injustice.
From listening/ watching to this video, it's evident that it revolves around confusion. In my view, the Red Pill movement brings up significant points. However, even the arguments presented in this video merely highlight a common ground but cater to different audiences. If we can find common ground and present the message appropriately, could be beneficial to mass . However, engaging with content from the Red Pill movement and then transitioning to this video can overwhelm an average person who lacks extensive analytical skills. It seems like there's a collective effort needed in the mental health sector, as many messages contain a blend of truths and falsehoods, leading to confusion and depletion for the average person. This pattern persists, whether it's individuals like yourself claiming to have the absolute truth and we all it's not true.
If anyone else here mention Sisyphus55 again I might lose it. This is a social commentary on a trending topic. It's not unusual that two creators would share similar idea. It's definitely not impossible that the title may be the same as well. C'mon guys.
A line from a translation of Tao Te Ching comes to mind, “know the masculine, but stick to the feminine.” I believe this expresses a perfect example of healthy masculinity.
7:28 "In fact men with health problems actually marry earlier and are less likely to divorce" so men without health problems are more likely to divorce? 5:00 he was talking about Andrew T's accusations. I'm not a fan of AT, but I can't deny that all of AT's accusations were not true and he was free from jail after that. This is how a narrator manipulates you by only telling you their narrative side of the story. He fails to blame women for anything that they do which causes 50-60% of divorces and 85% were initiated by women. I do not disagree with all the things he said like that materialism is bad things for both men and women.
Ok so if i pursue masculinity in my own way and it fulfills me why am i scared of rejection, i couldnt care abt being hated, its not something that phases me but the fear of rejection especially from a woman can be paralyzing
Red pill is a concept which needs to be addressed seperately and masculinity is another topic which requires a seperate analysis. It may appear to serve the purpose by mingling both but the whole idea of red pill gets blurred and masculinity falls into the misinterpretations with the burden of modern socio-political ideologies. The innumerable number of videos make this same mistake and end up failing to address either of them. It's only fair and meaningful to analyze masculinity after getting a proper groundlevel knowledge on "Redpill".
Imagine showing this video to the veterans who fought for the world we live in today. They wouldn't begin to understand either side, with all the new made up terms.
the comments here give me more faith in humanity. I was fully expecting to come into the comments and see a bunch of andrew tate bros, but you've all pleasantly suprised me.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🚹 Qualities associated with masculinity are questioned in modern society, leading to confusion about men's roles.* 01:05 *🧠 The video explores the concept of healthy masculinity and its place in today's world.* 02:44 *🔴 The Red Pill movement promotes traditional masculinity, emphasizing self-reliance and skepticism towards women's intentions.* 04:22 *💰 Manosphere influencers like Andrew Tate profit by perpetuating traditional gender roles and exploiting men's insecurities.* 06:38 *🚫 Evolutionary theories used by the manosphere to justify their beliefs are flawed and don't reflect modern society.* 08:14 *😔 Toxic standards of masculinity contribute to emotional distress, particularly among those who don't fit the traditional mold.* 09:13 *👥 Masculinity, when chosen freely without societal pressure, can have positive attributes like resilience and emotional responsibility.* 10:10 *🔄 Enforcing rigid gender roles limits individuals' potential and can be detrimental to mental health and relationships.* 11:47 *🛡️ Embracing a diverse range of identities, regardless of traditional gender norms, fosters a more inclusive and fulfilling society.* Made with HARPA AI
I've liked so many of your videos up to this one to where you straight up told a lie about Andrew Tate who is Muslim and has renounced a lot of those former beliefs. Get your facts straight bro.
I'd probably change the thumbnail, the kinds of people who go on and on about being "red-pilled" aren't generally the kinds of people preaching healthy masculinity
Thank you. This particular video taught me many things of which I was unaware. I wonder, what is the link between the Red Pill/Manosphere and gaming addiction? There does appear to be one, possibly encompassing incels as well. (Interesting to note that autocorrect replaced incels with uncles.)
Masculinity is standing bahaind your decisions. Which means in first place being decisive. To do all of that, you cant be told what to do and to avoid that you need to be step ahead and pull the decision before its too late and youre being told what to do. Its a mind game and everyone else is there for a ride, whilst youre the one pulling the ropes. But obviously this requires several times the effot to be done correctly vs the freeloading ride. Especially since you will be both helped and criticized along the road the entire time and its up to you to see it fit. This is a leader. Sure this can be a women too but honestly unless youre from a special place where its cultural for women to be leaders or youre just like that, women will want his man to be the leader even if she says otherwise, she wants that safety net of masculinity that ive just explained. Now no course will ever teqch anything like that and only the life will show you, which i mean actually women will show you this. The moment youre off course, youll be put straight back onto it if she means u well or off it for good if she doesnt.
Because they are sad excuses for men. They play the victim, take zero action (other than complaining) and take zero responsibility for their situation. They claim logic while basing all their arguments on logic fallacies. They claim strength by "doing their own thing" and are ignorant to fact that th3 motivation and reasoning behind what they do speaks louder than what they do and their motivations are driven by despair and bitter weakness, not from a place strength.
You can just apply Ockham's razor: The by far simpler explanation for the relationships we have is because men and women are the same on a fundamental level, not because of some exploiting evolutionary traits.
From what I’ve read about evolutionary traits, there’s one thing the red pill doesn’t acknowledge. Evolutionary traits aren’t set in stone, especially when it comes to mating, and things that animals, let alone humans, see as desirable mates vary wildly among populations. Mate preferences are expected to change with the environment a species lives in, otherwise nothing would be able to adapt, and this is what we are seeing within people.
Why throw Elliot under the bus mate? I was watching Elliot over 10 years ago and he has always considered strength and masculinity, you threw his name in with Tate as if he is jumping on the bandwagon. That was a poor take my guy.
How about feminists stop saying to “always respect women,” or, “the man should submit to the woman,” and say, “everyone should treat each other with respect, understanding that individual families can choose their own way of household, without toxic or abusive forms of treatment.”
Yep. A generation of boys fed the idea that they’re the villains simply for being born, and a generation of girls that have been told they’re perpetual victims and that men are the problem.
@@Gino565 How is that wrong? For a long time women literally didn't have the same rights and freedoms as men and at one point men could rape any woman they want. So historically speaking men HAVE been bad and oppressed women and if you can't admit that things HAVE BEEN unfair for a long time then you are just being dishonest!
Purple pill is just what the red pill was initially before all these gurus came and ruined everything. All these pills are stupid. Should be truth and lies.
@@nerychristianthere are many wrong things you just have said. Firstly, why would I recommend someone to embrace Islam if I had not read the Quran myself. Secondly provide me verses that explains how the Koran is full of nonsense. And please don’t tell me you’re a Christian. The trinity has been debunked. And answer me a few questions: Did Jesus know the hour? And did Jesus ever call himself a God?
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The most masculine trait is having the Ability for everyone to feel Safe around you
@ShipperS7why lol tho
@ShipperS7 oh. right. You are referring to the masculine ability to emanate a sense of danger in one's aura... so that bad people must fear him ?... but what if one isn't able to exude that ? Does that makes one less masculine ? Or should an ideal masculine man should be everready at his toes for any potential threat ?... That's the way to be... ? Right.. the warrior mindset... breaking the baddies' jaws!!... but one could be put in jail for that... worst case scenario :')... wait, a masculine must not fear anything, come what may !!.. (back to grind.) (Lol, i should really see a therapist)...
A point only half true
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity only toxic individuals, that includes both men and women. Masculinity like femininity is needed and necessary for any thriving society.
My definituon of Healthy masculinity:
1. Having Personal and social responsibility within reasonable range
2. Choosing your relationships wisely, and having pride in your relationships
3. Being proud of your passions and goals
You hear that? In the distance? There’s about 100 women and lefties screeching, “Thats still toxic!!!11” …
Masculinity has to do with mindset.
It's strength (mental) and confidence. And to an extent, the ability to not give a f*ck. The rest is just personal ideals, like morals or responsibility. They make you a better person, but they don't necessarily make you masculine.
@@jayboy2kay7 Nice strawman
So women can't do these things as well?
@@jayboy2kay7 you're literally making up people who don't exist to get mad at? Literally nobody has said that's toxic. Nobody
For me masculinity is chasing after your dreams in order to reach true happiness and then spreading that happiness to those closest to you. As a man you live to serve, both yourself and those closest to you
sounds like a great thing to do for anyone.
''true happiness'' is never wholly achievable.....search for contentment & peace.
And if you don't have someone to serve? Masculinity based on others will always fail
I have shared my feelings and emotions before, they were weaponized against me in the most cruelest of ways, never again
Just get to know someone well enough. Once you know that person well enough, then you can decide whether or not they are safe to express your true emotions around and to. I know how you feel. There are people out there that are tough on emotional expressions. But they are usually the most emotional of all because of their suppression of their own emotional instincts.
@@richardcarte "just get to know someone we'll enough" ha! I was betrayed again and again and again by the very same people I thought I knew very well, people I would sacrifice my life for. Keep your advice, it's worthless
Sounds like you met a narcissist.
@@juliemarkham4332No, none of the women I was with had any mental problems, beside being compulsive liars who never took any accountability or responsibility for their actions in a relationship or even in their own personal life/emotional wellbeing
@paulfurtak1440 So, dishonest blamers? Sounds like you know how to pick 'em! 😉
What I dislike about both Feminism and the Red Pill is this notion that men/women can be boiled down to a set of traits. It is an appalling over generalization that breeds bias against people simply based on their gender. People are more complicated than a random biological assignment they get a birth over which they had ZERO control
Being male does make you a bad person and being female does make you a good person in the end, plain and simple.
So you're taking the intersectional route, but that's a Feminist rhetoric
@@nsf001-3 ?
@@nsf001-3 Intersectional feminism is another type of feminism overall
Thank you. I agree people have put waaaay too much on some of this stuff. Both men and women possess all these traits, and by and large, most people fall into the middle of the pack in whatever mix they have of them. Being a healthy man or woman is much more about being a healthy *adult* than anything else.
Healthy masculinity isn't just about being strong; it's about having the courage to show vulnerability, the empathy to understand others' experiences, and the integrity to stand up for what's right. It's about breaking down walls of toxic masculinity and building bridges of connection and understanding. Let's redefine what it means to be a man - one built on compassion, authenticity, and respect. Together, we can create a world where everyone feels seen, heard, and valued. #HealthyMasculinity
The most masculine thing you can do in my subjective opinion, is being vegan and a humanist. There's major hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance in contributing to history's largest holocaust, to unnecessarily be; enslaved, raped, orphaned, tortured, exploited and killed, with 90 billion land animals and trillions of marine lives every year for the momentary pleasure of the taste buds. Pigs and birds being forced into gas chambers, having their tails/ teeth/ testicles ripped off without anesthesia, male babies being macerated, suffocated, having their throat slit, or being bludgeoned to death.
It's not a personal choice because there's a victim whose well-being, you’re either violating or terminating. You seem to confuse making a choice yourself without interference as a personal choice, rather than one that affects other people. Why don’t you trade places with them? You just don't care because you're not the one in the position and can appeal to the ostrich effect (burying your head in the sand) and ignoring what happens on a daily basis. You say vegans are forcing their beliefs on you, but it’s their value of not harming others, whereas you are forcing others to be harmed for your beliefs. E.g., If I punch the air, it is a personal choice. No one, or thing, is being harmed. However, if any sentient being gets in my vicinity while I’m swinging, and I intentionally still hit, it is no longer a personal choice. There’s a victim whose life I’ve harmed. Vegans would be the ones defending you, if you were in that position.
It makes one a morally bankrupt hypocrite to break the golden rule, and put others in a position that they, themselves would never want to be in. In fact, you all would be crying, and begging for mercy, and the only ones to attempt to save you (vegans), have no power. You have no right to intentionally violate the well-being of another sentient beings with the will to live, in the same way no one has the right to infringe on your well-being. If it's not good enough for you, or your eyes to see, don't do it to them.
It's just arbitrary discrimination based on species, no different from racism, sexism, or homophobia.
It's unnecessary, as all essential nutrients are readily available in plant-based alternatives, whether whole foods, fortified foods, or supplements. Would you rather pay to have an animals throat slit, or take a vitamin occasionally, which itself is more bioavailable. Even if it were not, just take extra. Causing unnecessary harm is, therefore, immoral. If you're not vegan, you're an animal abuser, which is the least manly thing.
Not sure what world you live in but from my experience any man I know that’s expressed even a small amount of vulnerability is instantly seen as weak or completely disregarded. This is learnt at a very young age that boys and men are disposable and are dropped instantly or not respected. Society as a whole teaches us this fact, every day.
@@MrSladejYou do realize that you just described the systematic way patriarchy physically and mentally damage men, right? It is not the only way, but like you said, it’s so pervasive and lived everyday. So standing against it takes even greater courage.
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@@MrSladej If it makes you feel any better, women don't get it much easier. I'm a lady and you have no idea how many times I've been told not to cry, or if I cry in front of someone, they'd get mad at me or suggest I'm trying to manipulate them (that's what we women do, apparently, just cry to manipulate people). It's good times.
Imo we need to stop thinking of these traits as masculine or feminine; just recognize good and bad traits, how to grow traits to be helpful to us without being a burden, learn to moderate our flaws, and just let people be people aside from that.
This video was a lot more balanced than most, so good on you there. I will kinda challenge the ideas of masculinity vs femininity, though. I take a real issue with this for 2 reasons: 1) almost universally, good traits are given to men while weak traits are given to women (whether actually weak or perceived as weak), and 2) both sexes exhibit both types of traits fairly regularly. As you yourself said, women do and always have shown things like appropriate emotional restraint, discipline, and being willing to do hard work, as well as many other traits described as masculine (eg tenacity, having high standards of achievement, being logical). For some reason though, despite the fact that these traits were not only present but *common* among women for basically all of known history, they're designated as masculine. And the reverse is true too - things said to be feminine, like caring for others, showing emotion, valuing community, being "soft", etc, have long been present in many men, too (even if they were expected to squash them down).
So why bother delineating any of these traits as masculine or feminine? Wouldn't it be better, and much more accurate, to simply describe traits as desirable or undesirable, how to moderate them to be appropriate to a situation (eg showing emotion to a spouse is good, to an employer maybe not so much), how to cultivate them so they benefit us without overly burdening us?
To me, while we might be able to talk broadly about certain genuine trends between men and women (eg women are more people-oriented, men are more thing-oriented; women have better colour recognition, etc), the fact is that we're all individuals with our own mix of *all* of these traits, and for most of us that individual mix lands us loosely in the middle of the pack. In being a man or a woman, I think the key thing is being an *adult.* To me, that means taking the time to grow these positive traits and to learn to moderate your flaws, being self-sufficient to a reasonable degree but also having the humility to ask for help when you need it, taking responsibility for your actions and self-development, as well as for the wellbeing, growth, nurturing, and teaching of those in your care. To go to the question these days, "what is a man? what is a woman?" and people say "an adult human male" or "an adult human female" and that's really all it is. To be the sex that you have, and to be an adult, and to be a human being. We don't need to complicate it more than that.
The greatest sign of masculinity in my opinion, is not caring about other peoples opinions. You cant please everybody, no matter what you do you will upset somebody, so just do your own thing regardless.
"god never gives 2 people the same test" is what i believe, i believe masculinity should mean something else to other people rather than having 1 meaning
A life lived to serve others, is a life well-lived! Making others feel safe and valued, having a strong work ethic, and loyalty to others are all traits of Positive masculinity!
There is no such thing as "traditional masculinity". It depends on which culture you are born into. This is why anthropology is so important.
It's very true, and imo an under-appreciated part of this topic (which, imo, lends itself well to my own view that there are no such thing as masculine or feminine traits, just traits that all of us have or can cultivate, and each of us generally has our own mix of them). Like, go back a few hundred years, and it was masculine to wear jewelry, colourful tights, tunics, and high heels. Or like, for a stretch there it was unseemly for a woman to weave tapestries, something we'd see as feminine today. In other cultures, women couldn't play certain instruments, and men wore skirts and were part of the bardic traditions. It's all just a big jumble of whatever meanings we've attached to it.
One day, I woke up and wondered "Why am I not a man?" I was identifying as non binary, and I knew why I wasn't a girl. I had never wondered why I wasn't a man. It wasn't because it didn't feel right. In my mind there was a minimum amount of male gender roles you needed to be ok performing in order to qualify as a man. I didn't tick enough boxes so therefore obviously I had to be non binary.
I had never given a damn about gender roles living as a girl. I would break gender roles just to flex. I grew up with girlpower and "women can do anything men can!". But no one said "men can do anything that women can". It wasn't "cool" and "radical" for a guy to wear a skirt or be emotional, as it was for a girl to be tough and wear a suit. Being a man to me looked like being a woman, but more restrictive. Can't wear this, can't act like this, can't do this, can't do that. Definitely can't be _yourself_ !
But that day, I realized that no gender police was gonna knock on my door. There *was* no minimal amount of gender roles. No one could *really* tell me who I was other than myself. If being a man felt right to me, it was up to me to decide my own kind of masculinity, what sort of man I wanted to be.
And that is how I realized I was a trans guy. Mind you, I was 4 months on testosterone already. Everyone who saw me that day asked me why I looked so happy. What was I gonna tell them? "I can be a man!" Yeah, no shit, Sherlock, aren't you already doing that? 😂
The greatest sign of healthy masculinity is being kind and non judgemental with people around you
That is entirely feminine energy.
@@journeyproud so you're implying that being masculine means being an a-hole and judgemental? 😅
@@artaeunThat's a strawman, the commenter was saying that being a pushover without any sort of spine and integrity is a feminine trait, that doesn't instantly default into "being an asshole" as the only other option. I believe a truely healthy masculine person stands up to their beliefs and doesn't get passively aggressive or toxic with others who disagree with them. To say that the world needs to be void of three thinking or resilience is a dangerous statement to say the least
That's a strawman, the commenter was saying that being a pushover without any sort of spine and integrity is a feminine trait, that doesn't instantly default into "being an asshole" as the only other option. I believe a truely healthy masculine person stands up to their beliefs and doesn't get passively aggressive or toxic with others who disagree with them. To say that the world needs to be void of free thinking or resilience is a dangerous statement to say the least
@@artaeunYes. And I’m absolutely for it.
My vision of masculinity is mainly just about determintaion, discipline, capability, passion, and putting my goals above everything except family.
These also apply to femininity.
@@uachilles No, they don't.
To answer/add, bare with me. "Finding a place for men in today's world."
It reminds me of a bartender years ago who asked me "what are the women like where you're from?" As stupid a question, as honest and upright a guy i came to know him..
I answered, "please, in the name of all men, please don't ever ask that question again. No good shall come of it. But to answer your question(because he was dead-serious)
6 billion people. There are no 2 alike. Women nor us men."
Keeping that in mind, we might share characteristics across the board. Those characteristics used to be comprehended due to personal scenarios in daily life.
It was there, but only whens you moved forward in space and time, be it in your neighbourhood or at work, no different than today.
But it was only then, when outside. Outside your home, or inside your home, but not in the comfort of your own silence and privacy, computing what Is happening. And deconstructing so.
Now. Today. That comfort, while still present, no longer has boarders. Overload breaches. An overload of opinions, moments, voices, places.
The breach; before today, introduction/absorbtion, was a scenario, solely instigated when having stepped outside your home.
And ever since internet got integrated on the mobile phone. The capability of illness got integrated into the comfort of your homes. (*toxicity's workings: the introduction/absorbtion of a substance, maybe the bottle be filled with oil, words or views. Animate or inanimate)
Which in turn lead to the mind being tricked into thinking there's nothing wrong with what you're doing or thinking in the place where you've always done so.
So i think there's enough room for men in today's world, for today we have enough sex-changes.
We just don't give Men, chances they need or want. Just like in a way, women didn't get theirs decades+ ago. Which is the time we live in, that also part reason i think. Because the development of the world that need to be done to get where we are, that need actual Hard physical labor, is done.
The buildings built now, are for show. Popularity. Hubris. And yes to evolve we need more. But just like masculinity being misguided, do we need more?
No. It's because we want to go further, we want more. So put those bricks down. Put those phones down.
Take one week, 1. Pick 1, of the opposite sex to have an actual conversation with. Ask things You want answered. Not things you've been persuaded to ask.
If that did something for you, you'll take another week. And not because i'm saying so.
Take Your time
this video is extremely underviewed
I think traditional masculinity is very attractive. Something I look for in a relationship.
Masculinity is Whistler from the movie Blade!
It seems like this video's target audience is the average person still searching for meaning in life or recovering from past failures. Watching content like this might provide comfort and reaffirmation for them. However, those who are already contented and benefiting in masculinity or femininity likely won't resonate with this message and might even perceive it as toxic. This video seems designed to appeal to a specific audience, and if you find yourself connecting with it, you're likely in that demographic. However, there could be individuals who find a middle ground between the Red Pill and Blue Pill ideologies, and they might resonate with this content in a unique way.
I'm a purple-pill person and I agree with this video.
i loved the "emotional intimacy part".
however, id like to argue that men need people to talk to, except it should NOT be women. b*tching & whining to/with women can often break relationships. women stop seeing you as a warrior who can handle his own shit. i only say this cause ive experienced this early on in my life.
if you need to talk to someone, it should be men. you need to have good quality friendships & relationships. talking to men only makes your masculine bond stronger & better.
hence, i advise guys to not talk to their significant other/crush/female friends about their feelings. once in a while is okay, but when you do it constantly, it results in the woman taking a masculine role in the relationship.
nice vid aperture 1!!1!!1!
True. Aperture is blue-pilled
this is true but if you and your partner are in secure relationship she might not feel that way. a woman would also like to reciprocate the love affection you give her.
Apsolute truth. Your SO might ask you what’s on your mind or might notice you’re down. Most don’t really want to hear about everything. All they want to hear is how they can make you feel better and if the problem is themselves. You sit down and whine about your issues day in and day out they will lose respect for you. Quickly as well. Men will only ever be judged. It’s why our brotherly bonds are stronger than any female bonds. So long as you surround yourself with lads willing to be honest with you. I’m sorry but women don’t have the capacity or understanding of what a man can be going through. I’d argue it’s hat they don’t really care so long as you assure them it’s not them being the issue
Yep, after all these years I have to unsub. There is enough blue pill propaganda in the media, don't need more in my subs. @@avinashprasadfilms
@@varityvee4509that's bs. The moment you show weakness to your wife the attraction is gone.
"No one should be robbed of the full range of possibilities life offers"
A strong body equals a strong mind 💪
Wow. Thank you for this video. Everything was sagaciously explained
If you like movies, a good example of healthy masculinity IMO is the character of Aragorn in the LoTR trilogy.
11:26 - "We should feel free to pursue our identity how we see fit"
I could only agree with you if you also let me shame people for living that way,
we can't expect to do what we want without being judged for it, because then you deny me the opportunity to judge you as I see fit.
I feel like the Manosphere and Redpill movements are two separate things with a couple overlapping values. I’m a 32yo woman and I love Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson, Lex Freidmen, JRE, Tim Pool and countless other influential voices that showed me where the ‘red pill’ was and none of them are part of the Tate manosphere.
You’d be surprised how many women actually think Andrew Tate is right; yes there are things he’s not right with but most of the things he say are spot on, he could be nicer about it yes, but saying 2 + 2 is f*ckng 4 is still a true statement.
@@Jayderzomb I honestly do agree with a good part of what he says today. But his position has changed some over time.
Men especially in America lack what many tribes, cultures.. etc… had. RITE OF PASSAGE.
Embracing true masculinity means finding a balance between strength and sensitivity, and ensuring our actions uplift rather than diminish others. Let's redefine masculinity in a way that celebrates both courage and compassion, where being strong also means being kind.
The interesting thing with Tate and all of these other gurus is that, if you know what to listen out for, you can actually learn a lot of valuable lessons from them. Tate’s views on women and healthy relationships are undoubtedly wrong, but his emphasis on taking care of yourself physically, having good routines, working hard and associating yourself with good people is, in my opinion, absolutely correct. All in all, I think it’s wrong to shut them out completely, but at the same time you shouldn’t take his word as it rolls off the tongue.
If you are not capable of telling the sh*t from the facts, steer clear of them. If you are, try to derive valuable lessons from these guy’s rants, because they are there. Just don’t get brainwashed lol 😂
Valid point. A lot of what Tate says is true, however he will say it in the most controversial way to get views.
Tate's view on women is the same which was shared by evolutionary psychologist Dr.Gad Saad, Men's right's activist Karen Straughan and also by professor and author Camille Paglia in her book "Sexual Personna". All of them had the core idea of evolutionary mating behaviors and women's propensity for hypergamy in their description. Besides this, may I know what was Tate's idea of women which you found disagreeable?
@@ajeetalbert91 exactly. He doesn’t treat women bad he gives women what women want.
@@ajeetalbert91except he corrupts what little science he bases his claims on to create a toxic mindset that makes mem keep coming back to him for fixes to their self-esteem.
@@spacecandygames7575 No, he does not. Women aren't breeding machines, they want people with the capacity to engage in emotional intimacy.
Masculinity is not the problem; misogyny is.
@user-ll3kc4kq2d Are you saying that misogyny (hatred of women) is not bad?
Western society is misandrist so idk wtf you're trying to say
@@uachillesNo, it isn’t
What always frustrates me is when influencers say "red pillers say/believe". A lot of what was said in the first 4 minutes already is false. Examples:
1. "Followers also attribute women's desire for an emotional and sexual connection to an influence from the feminist matrix."
-Usually I can at least figure out where the misunderstanding comes from. This time I can't.
A. No, we don't think women's desire for intimacy does not come from the feminist matrix.
B. We also don't believe in some feminist matrix. We do describe how women tend to go along with popular / other women's beliefs as a "hivemind" so maybe that's where that came from.
C. We also aren't "followers". There is no "red pill pope" or something that we all blindly follow. The whole reason why the red pill is so fragmented is because we don't blindly follow. This is something others like to ascribe to it to avoid confronting the actual observations and arguments made by dismissing it as some form of religion or cult. The moment you say "red pill believes" you're probably wrong, there's many different groups with all kinds of differing opinions inside of the red pill community.
D. No, women don't have a deep yearning to convince men to consent to exploitative relationships. Women have a deep yearning for comfort and security that due to modern culture expresses itself in exploitative ways. Will they due to their agreeable/conflict averse nature be more manipulative than men? Yes, but that is not a yearning to exploit men. That's just a part of being conflict averse and neurotic/avoidant.
Which is a horrible combination when you give them the societal and legal protectiveness and privilege the likes of which only aristocrats could have matched. Being manipulative and spoiled tends to lead to controlling and manipulative behavior, not healthy relationships.
2. A. "Red pill believers" - No.
B. Saying red pillers "reinforce their worldview" by drawing on evolutionary psychology is about as accurate as saying physicists test their theories through seismograph. Sure, when applicable they may use it to support the theory, however it is only one tool of many and few treat evolutionary psychology alone as enough evidence of anything. Physicists don't test their theories of about the wavelength of light through seismograph, neither do we.
C. Finally an accurate statement, though immediately followed by a strawman (at best).
Correct: "Women evolved physiological mechanisms to deceive men into generous partners and help their offspring survive."
False: "And since all women supposedly have this Machiavellian instinct it's justifiable for men to have their own Machiavellian mindset."
- To begin with, physiological mechanisms are not the same as instincts. So this isn't just wrong about the red pill even internally this argument is as sturdy as a paper sieve.
Aside from that Red pill does not justify. The whole red pill metaphor is about swallowing the bitter pill of reality so you don't continue to live with comforting lies. It is not about our moral compass. Each person decides for themselves right and wrong. We may point out a belief that's blatantly false or proven wrong/dysfunctional, but we don't tend to force our beliefs on each other. That tends to be more the incel communities.
I was planning to make a list for all the points in the video, but every half a sentence is filled with a paragraph of falsehoods and obviously biased/false information. Honestly a little disappointed. I'm used to thought provoking content from this channel, but this is just such a poorly thought through video without any self-reflection of your own biases on the subject.
If evolutionary biology doesn't form the crux of red pill, then what else does? I ask it because the whole spectrum of reasons given by red pillers will be somehow connected to the concept of evolutionary biology. Can you cite some examples where you give explanations or statements which hold reason without the support of Evolutionary science?
Just like your wavelength-seisomograph idea, I am asking if you can provide few examples of different ideas like wavelengths and their respective counterparts like spectrometer which you use as tools to explain?
Helloo when I hear Red Pill a few names comes to mind. Rollo, Fresh n Fit, Kevin Samuels and friends. And yes these men profess the ideas mentioned in this video So whatever Red Pill you're talking about doesn't count.
Edit: How did I forget to mention CobraTate :O
@@spacebuddy5339I don't listen to fresh and fit or kevin samuels, but these points are not accurate of Rollo Tomassi. You either do not listen to him without bias or you're making up strawmen.
@lbert91As with all rigorous thought: you take information from multiple sources. From psychology to biology, from simple observation to tens of thousands of men attempting an idea and returning with the results they had.
Sharing notes is the key principle. Basically the same way science was done before it became an institution. Not perfect, but some good ideas come out of it that can be improved upon later.
As for tools the simplest are field reports, men going out there and trying out the ideas in the real world for themselves and returning with the results. Some bad field reports happen, but most old guys know how to sift through that (when you try to boost / soothe your ego it becomes kind of obvious).
Others are observation and matching observations. So you don't go out and test an idea but simply observe what's happening and write it down accurately, then share notes.
Then you have using scientific knowledge like evolutionary psychology, official statistics, biology, and then cross referencing it with observation and field reports. After all if it cannot be replicated then it is likely the study that was unreliable or incomplete.
Other tools are less scientific and more like philosophy. People putting forward and debating ideas until some can go out and be tested. Debates, discussions, and other such conversations can often spark something.
Then finally you have simply old guys with experience in life sharing their experiences. Sometimes the oldies have some wisdom to share. Nothing scientific but often useful nonetheless.
Though to be fair this is a list of tools made by a layman, so I may have missed some as well. Rollo Tomassi (the rational male on youtube/blog) is a place to go. Others would include Rian Stone from the top of my head.
I'm "masculine" by most metrics. I don't care about it. I find people obsessed with it cringey. I like feminine dudes. Masculinity has no value to me
Preach, man. I'm a woman, and beyond the stuff associated with my physical body, it's not something I've spent much time thinking about. I prefer to just be myself and not worry about it so much, while just working on my own stuff. I think a lot of people would be happier if they did the same.
"hiding emotions isn't appreciated"? Idk where you live but where I'm at, if u ever get emotional in front of a woman, she'll hold it over your head later on at the worst time, no matter if it's been a long term relationship, idk where I'm from women are just not wired to stand an emotional man & men over here thankfully are still masculine 😂
What's ur point here? That emotional men are not masculine?
@@cerealwithwarmmilk my point is if u get emotional in front of your partner your image in her head is changed forever, women are wired to look for a man that will support them emotionally as well, so when u get emotional in front of one I can guarantee u that she will no longer see u as 100% reliable on that front, & once that's damaged it will gradually make a whole lot more shit pop up over time. There's a reason women now are complaining about men becoming too soft
@CanisoGaming I can guarantee you any mutually emotionally intelligent and secure woman is not going to look at you differently for showing emotion. Most of us are begging y'all to show emotion in a healthy and completely normal manner instead of trying to shove weird societal standards down your throat that greatly affect the mental health of so many men and the way they regard themselves/handle difficulties and stress. A real man is comfortable in sharing a few or some maybe traditionally feminine traits or ways of operating me thinks.
@@lvdiah6966 I was with you until you added a real man stop with the precarious nonsense
@@CanisoGaming"women are wired" cut the bullshit please
The greatesr sign of masculinity is to care for your loved ones and in some cases also to stand up for the weak, bullied, oppressed, and for injustice.
From listening/ watching to this video, it's evident that it revolves around confusion. In my view, the Red Pill movement brings up significant points. However, even the arguments presented in this video merely highlight a common ground but cater to different audiences. If we can find common ground and present the message appropriately, could be beneficial to mass . However, engaging with content from the Red Pill movement and then transitioning to this video can overwhelm an average person who lacks extensive analytical skills. It seems like there's a collective effort needed in the mental health sector, as many messages contain a blend of truths and falsehoods, leading to confusion and depletion for the average person. This pattern persists, whether it's individuals like yourself claiming to have the absolute truth and we all it's not true.
There’s no such thing as healthy and unhealthy masculinity, it’s masculinity and that’s it.
Completely disagree. Everything has a Ying and Yang.
true, embracing the masculinity is not for weaklings it is only for few
@@JaysonT1no it doesn’t cuck
@@JaysonT1 Yes, but it's Yin and Yang.
I needed this after 5 years of watching your content and thanks for it as well my G 💯🙌🏾💙
Health masculinity is doing what you want, simple as that. Don’t let others say what you should care about.
If anyone else here mention Sisyphus55 again I might lose it. This is a social commentary on a trending topic. It's not unusual that two creators would share similar idea. It's definitely not impossible that the title may be the same as well. C'mon guys.
Be like uncle Iroh
The original Uncle Iroh
Can you make a video on how to handle your mental health?
Please 🙏❤️
A line from a translation of Tao Te Ching comes to mind, “know the masculine, but stick to the feminine.”
I believe this expresses a perfect example of healthy masculinity.
No.
7:28 "In fact men with health problems actually marry earlier and are less likely to divorce" so men without health problems are more likely to divorce?
5:00 he was talking about Andrew T's accusations. I'm not a fan of AT, but I can't deny that all of AT's accusations were not true and he was free from jail after that.
This is how a narrator manipulates you by only telling you their narrative side of the story. He fails to blame women for anything that they do which causes 50-60% of divorces and 85% were initiated by women.
I do not disagree with all the things he said like that materialism is bad things for both men and women.
Ok so if i pursue masculinity in my own way and it fulfills me why am i scared of rejection, i couldnt care abt being hated, its not something that phases me but the fear of rejection especially from a woman can be paralyzing
what is the social definition of a man?
amazing video by the way. it speaks a lot of our modern society.
Anyone born with a prostate
that is biological but thank you@@twiztidsidfreak13
“What ever happened to Gary Cooper? The strong, silent type…”
Now it’s distinction this, dysfunction that, dysfunction vaffanculo!
He was gay? Gary Cooper?
@@painunending4610 “Heees a faaagggg!”
(It was a Sopranos quote lol)
Heart attack from suppressing his emotions
Respectly roasted Andrew Tate with facts!
Peace Be Unto You and May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour 🤍.
Eye-Opener....
Red pill is a concept which needs to be addressed seperately and masculinity is another topic which requires a seperate analysis. It may appear to serve the purpose by mingling both but the whole idea of red pill gets blurred and masculinity falls into the misinterpretations with the burden of modern socio-political ideologies. The innumerable number of videos make this same mistake and end up failing to address either of them. It's only fair and meaningful to analyze masculinity after getting a proper groundlevel knowledge on "Redpill".
What dont you like about redpill?
Is there more implications as to why men with health problems tend to marry earlier?
Sisyphuss 55 give him his credit
what abt the sisyphus guy ?
@@opinionale7468 he literally copied his video go check him out
What credit? Did Sisyphus55 discover masculinity?
@@spacebuddy5339 this guy keeps deleting my comments but yeah he did
@@opinionale7468 Dude keeps deleting my comments but go back and check out his video and come back you’ll see
Imagine showing this video to the veterans who fought for the world we live in today. They wouldn't begin to understand either side, with all the new made up terms.
bro what are you using for creation video?
King Warrior Magician Lover by Douglas Gillette and Robert L. Moore is a good read for masculine archetypes.
the comments here give me more faith in humanity. I was fully expecting to come into the comments and see a bunch of andrew tate bros, but you've all pleasantly suprised me.
Instead we got a bunch of blue pill simps who comment that being a nice weak man is the way to live.
Make sure to watch the full video. The message contradicts what one initially assumes
explain yourself, could you ?
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🚹 Qualities associated with masculinity are questioned in modern society, leading to confusion about men's roles.*
01:05 *🧠 The video explores the concept of healthy masculinity and its place in today's world.*
02:44 *🔴 The Red Pill movement promotes traditional masculinity, emphasizing self-reliance and skepticism towards women's intentions.*
04:22 *💰 Manosphere influencers like Andrew Tate profit by perpetuating traditional gender roles and exploiting men's insecurities.*
06:38 *🚫 Evolutionary theories used by the manosphere to justify their beliefs are flawed and don't reflect modern society.*
08:14 *😔 Toxic standards of masculinity contribute to emotional distress, particularly among those who don't fit the traditional mold.*
09:13 *👥 Masculinity, when chosen freely without societal pressure, can have positive attributes like resilience and emotional responsibility.*
10:10 *🔄 Enforcing rigid gender roles limits individuals' potential and can be detrimental to mental health and relationships.*
11:47 *🛡️ Embracing a diverse range of identities, regardless of traditional gender norms, fosters a more inclusive and fulfilling society.*
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I've liked so many of your videos up to this one to where you straight up told a lie about Andrew Tate who is Muslim and has renounced a lot of those former beliefs. Get your facts straight bro.
You don't know what the term red pill even means.
A lot of people don't; they haven't even seen the movie.
I'd probably change the thumbnail, the kinds of people who go on and on about being "red-pilled" aren't generally the kinds of people preaching healthy masculinity
So being a naive nice blue pill simp is healthy or what?
If you want perfect example of what a man should be, look at Aragorn from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings
Thank you. This particular video taught me many things of which I was unaware. I wonder, what is the link between the Red Pill/Manosphere and gaming addiction? There does appear to be one, possibly encompassing incels as well. (Interesting to note that autocorrect replaced incels with uncles.)
There's no such thing as incels.
@@BlackJesus8463 Personally, I think it’s a nonsensical term that indicates something else entirely.
Healthy masculinity is not feeling fragile when your gf asks you to hold her purse while she ties her shoe or something
Tell me you don't know anything about masculinity without telling me lmao
Massively depends on the context
Masculinity is standing bahaind your decisions. Which means in first place being decisive. To do all of that, you cant be told what to do and to avoid that you need to be step ahead and pull the decision before its too late and youre being told what to do. Its a mind game and everyone else is there for a ride, whilst youre the one pulling the ropes. But obviously this requires several times the effot to be done correctly vs the freeloading ride. Especially since you will be both helped and criticized along the road the entire time and its up to you to see it fit. This is a leader. Sure this can be a women too but honestly unless youre from a special place where its cultural for women to be leaders or youre just like that, women will want his man to be the leader even if she says otherwise, she wants that safety net of masculinity that ive just explained. Now no course will ever teqch anything like that and only the life will show you, which i mean actually women will show you this. The moment youre off course, youll be put straight back onto it if she means u well or off it for good if she doesnt.
Why do you hate the red pill?
Because they are sad excuses for men. They play the victim, take zero action (other than complaining) and take zero responsibility for their situation. They claim logic while basing all their arguments on logic fallacies. They claim strength by "doing their own thing" and are ignorant to fact that th3 motivation and reasoning behind what they do speaks louder than what they do and their motivations are driven by despair and bitter weakness, not from a place strength.
Cause he's a brainwashed blue pill simp.
I personally feel andrew tate is speaking truth more than what you have been trying to do with this video sorry this what I naturally feel
The last lines❤
Sucks how you didn’t give credit to the original channel you stole this idea from. Sisyphus 55 made a video identical to this
The solution to all the problems in the world is to implement the religion of Islam🌹
Inshallah
What we need is far less alpha males and vastly more sigma males!
How bt 'just males'
@@spacebuddy5339 SIMGA!
Brother you really think Andrew Tate needs this little amount of money as compared to his annual income. Beside I agree to most of the video.
I hope you're busy with a similar video about feminism.
That thumbnail made me worry about my youtube alghorithm for a second
Man same here 😂😂😂😂
lol
"Healthy Masculinity" Lmao
You can just apply Ockham's razor: The by far simpler explanation for the relationships we have is because men and women are the same on a fundamental level, not because of some exploiting evolutionary traits.
You mean like with human rights and everything? lol
I could live my life without another redditor mentioning Ockham’s razor. It’s getting insufferable
From what I’ve read about evolutionary traits, there’s one thing the red pill doesn’t acknowledge. Evolutionary traits aren’t set in stone, especially when it comes to mating, and things that animals, let alone humans, see as desirable mates vary wildly among populations. Mate preferences are expected to change with the environment a species lives in, otherwise nothing would be able to adapt, and this is what we are seeing within people.
I like your stuff but, you appear to have borrowed heavily from Sisyphuss 55 and used the identical title.
This is video is necessary
Why throw Elliot under the bus mate? I was watching Elliot over 10 years ago and he has always considered strength and masculinity, you threw his name in with Tate as if he is jumping on the bandwagon. That was a poor take my guy.
Plenty of bad takes in this video
Don’t believe the woke narrative. Be a man 👍 work provide for your family.
Define "woke"
@@twiztidsidfreak13 enlightened
@@twiztidsidfreak13someone like you, cause you asked.
@@twiztidsidfreak13idiots, weaks , soy boys
How about feminists stop saying to “always respect women,” or, “the man should submit to the woman,” and say, “everyone should treat each other with respect, understanding that individual families can choose their own way of household, without toxic or abusive forms of treatment.”
Feminism isn't about equality. That's why. Feminism is the Toxic Femininity that no one wants to talk about
I absolutely disagree
me too
Why?
This video is laughable. Such a mishmash of a variety of concepts and very superficial. Women good, men bad. We get it.
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Yep. A generation of boys fed the idea that they’re the villains simply for being born, and a generation of girls that have been told they’re perpetual victims and that men are the problem.
@@Gino565 How is that wrong? For a long time women literally didn't have the same rights and freedoms as men and at one point men could rape any woman they want. So historically speaking men HAVE been bad and oppressed women and if you can't admit that things HAVE BEEN unfair for a long time then you are just being dishonest!
@@KahlessTheUnforgettable 🤡
Yep, he's the definition of a brainwashed simp.
strong body, strong mind, work hard - Andrew tate
I totally agree, it makes a man no less a man and it might keep your ass out prison
Theres no such thing as toxic masculinity to begin with.
Purple pill >>>
Purple pill is just what the red pill was initially before all these gurus came and ruined everything. All these pills are stupid. Should be truth and lies.
Black pill>>>
Wow
Slander with an agenda. Disappointing
nice bud
👍
Easy solution, you must embrace Islam
🤣
@@roderickcortez138 elaborate
Why would I want to embrace a false religion? Have you even read the Koran? It's full of nonsense.
@@nerychristianthere are many wrong things you just have said. Firstly, why would I recommend someone to embrace Islam if I had not read the Quran myself. Secondly provide me verses that explains how the Koran is full of nonsense. And please don’t tell me you’re a Christian. The trinity has been debunked. And answer me a few questions:
Did Jesus know the hour?
And did Jesus ever call himself a God?
@@alhassanebarry4596 How has the Trinity been debunked? What hour are you talking about?
Ahahahahahahaha😂😂😂
I tried to post a comment about how unfair the system is and gootube blocked it 🤔
I've had enough of this raging idiocy
The opposite of what u are is masculine buddy